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- 0:00Speaker 1: Go West and special guest Debbie Gibson. That's at the
- 0:04Speaker 1: ASTA Theater tonight. You can still get some tickets that
- 0:06Speaker 1: destroy all lines dot com And with us this morning,
- 0:10Speaker 1: Go West's Peter Cox.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Good morning morning.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Peter, morning guys.
- 0:14Speaker 2: How you doing very well?
- 0:15Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Now, gosh, what
- 0:19Speaker 1: a catalog. You've been performing these songs for more than
- 0:22Speaker 1: four decades. What do you think is the secret to
- 0:25Speaker 1: it continuing to connect with audiences.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Well, I hope that I can say as a songwriter
- 0:30Speaker 3: that it's to do with the songs. Those are the
- 0:34Speaker 3: songs that have stood the test of time. And thanks
- 0:37Speaker 3: to Australian audiences for buying our debut album all those
- 0:41Speaker 3: years ago, as they say, and making it possible for
- 0:44Speaker 3: me to be here in Perth forty years later. Amazing.
- 0:48Speaker 4: Well, Peter, I must confess I bought a copy of
- 0:51Speaker 4: that debut album when I was still in high school
- 0:53Speaker 4: when it came out in eighty five.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Thank you still having much appreciate and it's in.
- 0:57Speaker 4: Press pristine condition.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Because you've never played.
- 1:01Speaker 4: It, I have played it. I've played it a lot,
- 1:03Speaker 4: and we've played the songs on the radio from it
- 1:05Speaker 4: a lot. Too, because there was there were a number
- 1:07Speaker 4: of hits from that. I mean, they had a very
- 1:09Speaker 4: very successful album, Close Our Eyes, Call Me Don't Look Down,
- 1:13Speaker 4: Goodbye Girl. I mean you had a pretty good run
- 1:16Speaker 4: with that.
- 1:17Speaker 3: Yes we did. Nineteen eighty five was quite the year.
- 1:21Speaker 2: It was.
- 1:21Speaker 1: You were one of the defining voices of that year,
- 1:25Speaker 1: of the eighties, entirely being you know, someone who grew
- 1:28Speaker 1: up in the eighties. It really was such an incredible
- 1:31Speaker 1: era for music. What do you remember most fondly about it?
- 1:37Speaker 3: Well, at the risk of sounding mercenary, this was in
- 1:40Speaker 3: the day when you actually sold product and made some money.
- 1:44Speaker 3: As we all know, the landscape changed dramatically now, so
- 1:49Speaker 3: I wouldn't like to be eighteen, nineteen twenty starting out
- 1:52Speaker 3: at the moment, although I know that younger people obviously
- 1:55Speaker 3: adapt to the circumstances they find themselves in. But it
- 1:59Speaker 3: is obviously very different now to the way it was then.
- 2:03Speaker 3: So it was nice to make some money, but it
- 2:06Speaker 3: was also nice to finally get through the door of
- 2:09Speaker 3: a record label after years and years of trying. I
- 2:12Speaker 3: know this is a story that many bands would tell you,
- 2:15Speaker 3: but I was twenty nine already by the time Richard
- 2:18Speaker 3: and I got signed and made that first record, so
- 2:22Speaker 3: all right, yeah bye. So by current by current standards,
- 2:25Speaker 3: that's almost ancient.
- 2:29Speaker 4: And of course that was the era of because you
- 2:31Speaker 4: guys were quite a fixture on I mean, we didn't
- 2:33Speaker 4: have it yet, but we were. We had the video shows.
- 2:35Speaker 4: But of course you guys became a feature on MTV,
- 2:38Speaker 4: you know, with this sweaty single, you know, throwing your
- 2:42Speaker 4: your wrench around as they would call it in America
- 2:44Speaker 4: on so we close our eyes so obviously, you know,
- 2:51Speaker 4: so that was a that was a very big part
- 2:53Speaker 4: of getting out there as well, wasn't it.
- 2:56Speaker 3: It was absolutely That video if anyone has it, was
- 3:00Speaker 3: directed by Kevin Godley and Lol Cream Late of ten CC, Yes,
- 3:05Speaker 3: and they were absolutely red hot at the time, having
- 3:09Speaker 3: directed every breath you take, that video for the police,
- 3:13Speaker 3: and a number of videos for Duran Duran. So we
- 3:16Speaker 3: were I'm not going to sit here and tell you
- 3:19Speaker 3: that Richard and I had any very much control over
- 3:22Speaker 3: any of this. We were just going where we were told.
- 3:25Speaker 3: But we were obviously very happy to be directed by
- 3:29Speaker 3: those two guys who were very clever. They knew that
- 3:32Speaker 3: I had zero performance experience, certainly not in front of
- 3:36Speaker 3: a camera. So if anyone seen the video, the main
- 3:39Speaker 3: shot was of me, as you say, swinging a wrench around.
- 3:43Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about that wrench until the morning
- 3:45Speaker 3: of the videos. I saw it on the side when
- 3:48Speaker 3: I came in and I said, what's this for? And
- 3:50Speaker 3: they said, oh, that's going to be your prop. How's
- 3:53Speaker 3: that going to work? So if you can picture the
- 3:58Speaker 3: scene facing the camera about six foot away, and the
- 4:03Speaker 3: two guys are obviously out of shot either side of
- 4:05Speaker 3: the camera, and they just shouted instructions at me until
- 4:10Speaker 3: I was too tired to hold the wrench over my
- 4:12Speaker 3: head any longer. And that's when they would switch over
- 4:15Speaker 3: to Richard in his suit looking cool with a guitar. Yeah,
- 4:19Speaker 3: it was.
- 4:22Speaker 2: You got a guitar you got to reach That.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Hasn't that hasn't changed. Yeah, we that video, as you say,
- 4:31Speaker 3: introduced us to an American audience via MTV, which was
- 4:34Speaker 3: in its infancy, and we got decent rotation on MTV
- 4:38Speaker 3: with that, so that American audiences had half a clue
- 4:41Speaker 3: who we were when we finally arrived in America.
- 4:44Speaker 4: Check it out on YouTube.
- 4:45Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it to this day, you know
- 4:48Speaker 1: and more so than not, everyone does break through in America.
- 4:51Speaker 2: So just was it as life changing as you thought
- 4:54Speaker 2: it would be? Or and then some.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Well, we struggled with that first album for reasons much
- 5:02Speaker 3: too lengthy to go into here. The label pulled the
- 5:06Speaker 3: promotional budget and we close our eyes just as we
- 5:08Speaker 3: were outside the top forty. So the record was doing well,
- 5:13Speaker 3: but we didn't break into the forty with that song,
- 5:16Speaker 3: and Chris Liz had another artist on the label, Barney
- 5:19Speaker 3: the Purple Dinosaur, who went on to have a number
- 5:23Speaker 3: one record, while while we hovered outside the forty, which
- 5:27Speaker 3: was somewhat disappointing. But yeah, then we had the cliched
- 5:34Speaker 3: archetypal difficult second album, which brings us along some years
- 5:40Speaker 3: later to starting to write the songs for what would
- 5:43Speaker 3: become our Indian Summer album. And in a classic case
- 5:46Speaker 3: of being in the right place at the right time,
- 5:49Speaker 3: EUMI America, our new label, was just then putting together
- 5:52Speaker 3: the soundtrack for a film called Pretty Woman.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was fortuitors.
- 5:58Speaker 3: It was indeed.
- 6:01Speaker 2: The king of wish we're thinking now, Peter.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Music streaming means younger generations are finding eighties music every
- 6:08Speaker 1: day and they're realizing, of course, what a great era
- 6:10Speaker 1: of music it's like. And now they come along to
- 6:12Speaker 1: your shows, probably with their parents. What is it like
- 6:15Speaker 1: when you know, you see these kids singing along to
- 6:18Speaker 1: songs you recorded before they were born.
- 6:22Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's amazing. I mean, they're members of the
- 6:25Speaker 3: band who were playing who were they came out? But yeah,
- 6:30Speaker 3: it's obviously I'm My main feeling is of gratitude that
- 6:35Speaker 3: I still get to do the thing I love to do,
- 6:38Speaker 3: and to travel halfway around the world to do it
- 6:41Speaker 3: as well. It's just incredible. If you'd said to me
- 6:45Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty four, when we were making that debut
- 6:48Speaker 3: Go West album, what are your aspirations for nineteen eighty five?
- 6:52Speaker 3: I would have just said, I hope they let us
- 6:54Speaker 3: make another record, because my motivation was never about being
- 6:58Speaker 3: famous or any of that, and that all, as naive
- 7:02Speaker 3: as it sounds, that all really took me somewhat by surprise.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:06Speaker 4: Well, well, for people heading to the show in Perth
- 7:09Speaker 4: tonight at the ast, obviously they can expect the hits,
- 7:13Speaker 4: plenty of hits, few surprises. Maybe the backstory on Barney
- 7:18Speaker 4: the Purple Dinosaur and the legal problems that surrounded that
- 7:24Speaker 4: you'll have plenty of stories to tell.
- 7:26Speaker 3: I'm sure, yes, indeed, although I think I might leave
- 7:29Speaker 3: Barney the Purple Dinosaur out. That would be a long story.
- 7:32Speaker 3: From the stage, we try to try to keep the
- 7:35Speaker 3: momentum of the show going and not send everyone to sleep.
- 7:39Speaker 3: Fair enough energy.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Well that's all tonight at the ASTA. Thank you so
- 7:44Speaker 1: much for joining us, Peter Peter to talk to you.
- 7:48Speaker 3: Really appreciated