Latest / The BSB Podcast / Exclusive Interview: Ashley LaLonde of 'Dirty Dancing: The Musical'
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- 0:00Few films have made music, dance,
- 0:02and romance feel quite as inseparable as Dirty Dancing,
- 0:04and now the iconic show is arriving at the Fisher Theater here in Detroit with
- 0:07a thrilling touring production.
- 0:08Joining us today is Triple Threat Ashley Lalonde who has toured with Hamilton,
- 0:12sing at Carnegie Hall and Lincoln Center,
- 0:13and is now bringing Elizabeth to life in Dirty Dancing the Musical.
- 0:16Thank you so much for being here,
- 0:17Ashley.
- 0:18Thank you so much for having me.
- 0:20This is so exciting. I will say this.
- 0:22I am going into Dirty Dancing blind.
- 0:24I've never even seen the movie.
- 0:25So I know nothing about it. ~
- 0:27Okay.
- 0:28but this is one when it was announced that it was coming.
- 0:31My mom got very excited. She was like,
- 0:33my gosh, Dirty Dancing, they're bringing a touring production of it.
- 0:35So, what was it for you about Dirty Dancing that first drew you to wanting
- 0:38to be a part of this production and made you want to join the tour?
- 0:42Yeah, that's a great question.
- 0:43I'll say honestly, I had probably seen dirty dancing as a kid at some point,
- 0:48but I didn't really remember it.
- 0:49I I knew the classic moment, the big lift at the end,
- 0:52and nobody puts baby in a corner,
- 0:54but I didn't really know what it was about.
- 0:56And to be totally frank, I when I first got the audition.
- 1:01I one was kind of on the fence because I didn't know if I wanted to go
- 1:05on tour again because I've been on tour with Hamilton and I was kind
- 1:08of resettled into my life in New York City and I'm I'm a Manhattan native,
- 1:12so I just love
- 1:12Sure.
- 1:13being in New York. ~ but I'm so glad I decided to just say yes.
- 1:18~ really honestly after like praying about it and having a moment of like,
- 1:21I think I should do this. Like there's something in my gut that says
- 1:24yes to this audition, and I didn't expect to book it.
- 1:27But I actually decided to not re-watch the movie during my audition process.
- 1:32And so I really was in there blind,
- 1:34but it totally obviously it worked out because,
- 1:37well, here I am doing the show,
- 1:38but it also worked because the role I play Elizabeth in Dirty Dancing
- 1:42is actually a brand new character.
- 1:44So Elizabeth was written just for the stage musical version,
- 1:47and it is the only
- 1:48Love that.
- 1:49newly added role. So it's really fun because I really came in fresh just
- 1:54What is Ashley's take on Elizabeth?
- 1:56Who does she get to be? And when you're originating a role,
- 1:59you bring so much of your own personality,
- 2:01your own flavor, your own ideas.
- 2:02And our creative team is extremely collaborative.
- 2:05And so they really let me speak into who Elizabeth could be.
- 2:09And now it's so special to get to originate that role on stage.
- 2:14But I have since re-watched the movie.
- 2:16Of course, then as a ritual, the night before our first rehearsal.
- 2:19I had to sit down and my husband and I rewatched the movie and just had a blast.
- 2:23So it is a this cultural sort of iconic thing.
- 2:28And I'll say, of course, for a lot of us,
- 2:30it was more our parents' generation because admittedly
- 2:32Right.
- 2:32the movie came out before I was born.
- 2:34But I think even for our younger generation,
- 2:38there is this feeling of like romanticism and boldness.
- 2:44fresh, like young feminine power,
- 2:46and even not just feminine for everyone,
- 2:48of like finding your inner voice,
- 2:50kind of discovering your sexual energy,
- 2:54all of that wrapped up into a very fun summer story.
- 2:58Absolutely. I mean, I feel like this is one that like you mentioned those pieces.
- 3:01I like there's pieces of the show that I think everybody knows whether they've seen
- 3:03it or not, that just speaks to it.
- 3:05And maybe that's because I grew up watching Glee,
- 3:07you know. I was again a little bit younger.
- 3:09I in high school when Glee was in and you saw some of those pieces,
- 3:11but you you do remember, you remember,
- 3:13you know, the time of my life and you know so it's interesting that you get
- 3:16to go in though to the show into a role that's not in the movie.
- 3:19How is that kind of to be able to have just a role that is specific to to you?
- 3:24and getting to kind of put your own spin into a story that's already established.
- 3:28I mean, it's such a gift. This is one of those things as a creative,
- 3:33as a Broadway actor, that you dream about.
- 3:35You dream about getting to put your fingerprints on a brand new role.
- 3:40So it does, it does feel like a gift,
- 3:41an answered prayer. Just so fun.
- 3:44And particularly because everyone working on this show is an absolute delight.
- 3:48This is one of my favorites.
- 3:50All-time favorite groups that I've worked with,
- 3:52and I've been really privileged to work with a lot of wonderful people.
- 3:55But there is an energy in this room.
- 3:57When we all came together back in June for our first rehearsal,
- 4:01there was just a tangible energy and a joy and a kind of all in commitment that I've
- 4:06seen. ~ So they've made it so,
- 4:09so fun. And then to discover how does Elizabeth relate to baby and Johnny?
- 4:14And this is not a spoiler, hopefully.
- 4:17But Elizabeth does have a little bit of a love story with Billy,
- 4:21who is Johnny's cousin, the guy who carries the watermelons.
- 4:24And so that has just been a huge blast.
- 4:27And I absolutely adore Ethan Peterson who plays Billy.
- 4:31And so us getting to play on stage every night has just been so fun.
- 4:37So it sounds like those who maybe know the film and love the film
- 4:40and stuff like that can expect like an expansion of some of these other characters
- 4:43that's not just always necessarily focused on on baby and ~ my gosh,
- 4:48I am blanking on her love interest.
- 4:49Jumpy. Yeah.
- 4:50~
- 4:51So, you know, there's not as there's a bigger focus on a lot
- 4:53of the different characters kind of making it a wider story,
- 4:55it sounds like.
- 4:56Sure, yeah. And to be clear, you will get all of the iconic Johnny and Baby moments.
- 5:01You will get the moments with Baby and her dad and Lisa's hula's in there,
- 5:06which is a crowd favorite as well.
- 5:08but like you said, there are some expanded moments,
- 5:11a few additional moments, of course,
- 5:13the added character. ~ but I think the feedback so far has been that people love
- 5:19the expanded version. It just gives them more of a window into what it
- 5:23was like that summer at Kellerman's.
- 5:25So then what would you say is kind of the emotional journey
- 5:27of Elizabeth throughout Dirty Dancing the Musical?
- 5:30Well, at the start, she is this young woman who's actually away from home
- 5:34for the first time. And she's going to work at Kellerman's.
- 5:37Her brother was supposed to come with her.
- 5:39He's not there. And so she's really discovering who she is outside
- 5:44of the confines of her family and her hometown.
- 5:47And of course, this is when she gets caught up in a bit of a love triangle between
- 5:52Billy and another guy. And so her journey is one of both finding her voice.
- 5:57~ literally, she this is not her current job.
- 6:00But
- 6:00she's an aspiring singer. And so you get
- 6:02Okay.
- 6:02to see a little bit of that journey where she wants to pursue this dream.
- 6:07And there's someone who believes in her and someone who doesn't.
- 6:10And so I think that's something we've probably all grappled with is being a
- 6:14Yeah.
- 6:15little bit young and having this big dream and having people who are rooting
- 6:19for you and believing in you and supporting that vision,
- 6:22and people who are maybe subtly or not so subtly.
- 6:26you know, tearing down that dream.
- 6:28And so I am really grateful that I mean,
- 6:31of course I I resonate with that as an artist and a creative and a young woman.
- 6:35~ but it's an honor to tell that story and then for her to find her voice both,
- 6:40you know, as a singer, as a young woman,
- 6:43and then to sort of in a messy way find her footing in romance.
- 6:48You know, I what I love about that too is I think that's such
- 6:51an important story that so many people,
- 6:52especially young people, need to hear of like sometimes there's gonna
- 6:55be like the with the good of a journey like this,
- 6:57there's also some some negative and like being able to navigate that
- 7:00and still push through and persevere regardless.
- 7:02I mean, that's such a an emotional journey.
- 7:05Like you're right, it's universal.
- 7:06And it's so cool that you get to kind of shepherd that in because that's something
- 7:08I think so many people need to see and understand.
- 7:10Like keep going. Like there's there's other stuff,
- 7:12your journey's still ahead of you.
- 7:14Absolutely. And and that's been my own creative journey.
- 7:17You know, I I'm really grateful to be back in Detroit because I actually played
- 7:23the Fisher with Hamilton back in 2022.
- 7:26So that was my first national tour.
- 7:29And to get to come back to the Fisher is such a treat and a delight.
- 7:33And I know it'll bring up this whole flood of memories.
- 7:36Also, it's just an absolutely beautiful theater.
- 7:38So I feel really grateful to be back and to be back in a time where I'm
- 7:42you know, one step ahead in my creative career and in my life.
- 7:46And so it is this long journey.
- 7:48And like you hinted at, whether you're an artist,
- 7:51whether you're a student, any other job or any other life chapter,
- 7:56you are going to face rejection and pushback.
- 7:58And you have to figure out what is my motivation and how do I keep pushing forward,
- 8:03even when the haters are hating.
- 8:06Thousand percent.
- 8:07so speaking of your journey, when did you finally kind of like realize that
- 8:10performing was something that you really wanted to pursue professionally?
- 8:13That's a great question. I'll say I have a less traditional journey to this
- 8:18job and to a creative career. I'm a born and raised New Yorker,
- 8:22like I said, and so I did grow up getting to see shows Broadway off Broadway.
- 8:26I grew up singing in church. So I've always loved the arts and I
- 8:29did always have this dream, but I also had other dreams.
- 8:32There was a part of me that wanted to be a doctor.
- 8:34There was a part of me that wanted to be a journalist.
- 8:36I was really academically driven.
- 8:38And so I actually ended up going to Harvard for sociology,
- 8:41which is
- 8:42Totally
- 8:43different
- 8:43Incredible.
- 8:43than what I do. ~ well, I'll say I don't think it's actually as different
- 8:48as many upon initially hearing that would say.
- 8:51Sociology is the study of society and people and identity and social organizations.
- 8:57And so
- 8:58My sociological studies have directly poured into how I approach acting,
- 9:03how I approach the material. And I also,
- 9:05Sure.
- 9:06you know, write and do dramaturgy and I've directed.
- 9:09And so it does pour into that creative work.
- 9:11And also, as I think many people know,
- 9:14even when you've reached a certain level in your creative career,
- 9:17many people, either by choice or by financial obligation,
- 9:21pursue other career paths. And for me,
- 9:23What's been really fun is actually when I'm not working a creative job,
- 9:28or sometimes when I'm working.
- 9:29So right now I'm doing a bit of both,
- 9:31and that's not by obligation, but by passion and love and choice,
- 9:35is I do sociological research on the side.
- 9:38And so I work with a research firm and I get to explore.
- 9:43Culture and the focus is actually like religion,
- 9:46faith, and culture and spirituality.
- 9:48And so that's what I research and write about in my spare time.
- 9:52And ~ I love it. So it's been a non-traditional path in that sense,
- 9:56and that I've
- 9:56Sure.
- 9:57actually pursued dual careers and I really like the other things that I get to do.
- 10:02But when I think about childhood Ashley,
- 10:05I do think this is this is really the seed of the dream.
- 10:09Of something I've carried for a long time.
- 10:10Research is something I discovered as I got older,
- 10:13and I discovered a passion for.
- 10:14I've always had a passion for performance,
- 10:17for music, for singing, for dancing,
- 10:19for acting, for storytelling. But there's also many different ways to storytell.
- 10:24So in that sense, I don't think there was one moment that was my big aha.
- 10:28I loved it as a kid.
- 10:30I started auditioning a bit in high school.
- 10:33I was not a Broadway
- 10:34Okay.
- 10:34kid, but I did I signed with my agents actually in high school.
- 10:38So I did start getting my footing a little bit in the industry.
- 10:41I booked my first bigger job when I was 18,
- 10:44which was also when I was a freshman at Harvard.
- 10:46So then I started my sort of dual lifestyle crazy town,
- 10:50~ running at a thousand miles an hour.
- 10:52So now it's just a gift when I get to sleep a bit.
- 10:55~
- 10:55For sure.
- 10:56but I I'm so grateful.
- 10:58to pursue multiple things that I love and specifically to live out this dream.
- 11:02That is I mean, that's so impressive that you are doing so much,
- 11:06but also doing soci sociology,
- 11:08sociological research and stuff like that on top of acting.
- 11:12That is that's so impressive and that's so cool.
- 11:14And like that's you're I love that you said different forms
- 11:17of storytelling 'cause that's also kind of storytelling.
- 11:20You're like you're keeping like that is so awesome and you don't always hear that
- 11:24story from somebody. So like that's incredible.
- 11:27Yeah, and I always love to share that,
- 11:29you know, when it's asked of me,
- 11:30because I think that especially people who are aspiring to careers on Broadway
- 11:35or in the arts, there is this impression that there is only one correct path.
- 11:39And it's just not true. If you asked every single person in the cast
- 11:43of Dirty Dancing, you know, what was your path from age 13 to age 30?
- 11:48Many of us are not yet 30, but you get the point.
- 11:50~
- 11:51Right.
- 11:51or even for we have folks who go up to in their mid to late sixties in the cast.
- 11:56And so asking every person their journey,
- 11:58you will not hear the same story repeated twice.
- 12:01Some people have degrees in musical theater,
- 12:03some people have degrees in all sorts of random different things.
- 12:06Some people don't have degrees.
- 12:07Some people, you know, worked this kind of job,
- 12:10that kind of job. There's just many different paths.
- 12:13I think, of course, a commitment to the craft,
- 12:15to working on your training and taking whatever resources you can get.
- 12:20There's many free things now, whether your path is a degree.
- 12:24or just privately studying while you work at your local grocery store.
- 12:28There's many paths. And so there's not one right way to do it.
- 12:31But I'm very, very grateful for the opportunities that have been afforded where
- 12:36I can pursue these multiple paths.
- 12:38You know, I will say my journey's nothing like yours,
- 12:40but like I was a psychologist first and foremost.
- 12:43And when I got into COVID, I just needed a hobby while I was stuck at home.
- 12:46And so that's how I got into journalism and,
- 12:48you know, critiquing and stuff.
- 12:49So like it it you can do both.
- 12:51And I still am a psychologist.
- 12:52That's my day job. But ~ this is also a passion,
- 12:56you know, and this is something that I love.
- 12:57And so get to have, you know, the thing that like the career that you're happy with
- 13:00and you're proud of and you've worked really hard for and then also,
- 13:02you know, the art that you that you love.
- 13:05So I'd love to I'd love to see that there's
- 13:08That duality that exists in other people too.
- 13:10Amen, Brian.
- 13:12so you had kind of mentioned that this show you didn't know if you were gonna tour
- 13:16again, you but this show came up and you're like,
- 13:17I think I have to do it. Why did it feel like dirty dancing was
- 13:20pr the right opportunity at the right time at this point in your career?
- 13:24A good question. I think I didn't know it at the beginning.
- 13:27I was in a chapter creatively,
- 13:29and this is now almost a year ago when I was first auditioning,
- 13:32where I had a combination of sort of healthy surrender and I was feeling
- 13:37a little bit discouraged. I had heard a couple big no's,
- 13:40and like we were talking about,
- 13:41there is so much rejection. And at a certain point,
- 13:45sometimes it can start to weigh on you where you question,
- 13:48you know, should I really be doing this?
- 13:49Would I be better off pursuing putting my energy somewhere else?
- 13:53And someone, especially for those of us who have multiple passions,
- 13:56I was really asking those questions.
- 13:58And I'll say it really just came down to this prayer gut moment of I think
- 14:04I should do this. And actually the audition for Dirty Dancing came in
- 14:08on my birthday this past year.
- 14:09So that also felt like a
- 14:10Awesome.
- 14:11fun, like, hmm, interesting. This is come the you know,
- 14:14I get this email on my birthday to come and audition.
- 14:17And it was I was very lucky to get to go in front of our
- 14:22director and music director, like right then and there.
- 14:25And so it was this sort of gut moment.
- 14:28But truly throughout, and I've said this to my castmates and fellow creatives,
- 14:33that I didn't think I was gonna get it.
- 14:35So I was just showing up, sort of like balls to the wall,
- 14:38Yeah.
- 14:39~ you know, doing the best I could.
- 14:41And I was low stakes about it.
- 14:43I think in a healthy way, where I've gone in for other jobs where I'm like
- 14:48so tense and excited. And of course it's like,
- 14:51Great to bring that excitement,
- 14:52but I think that I had a sort of relaxed energy to me because I really didn't think
- 14:57I was gonna get it. I saw also
- 14:59Sure.
- 14:59I saw so many other talented women who I know their work and I know their credits
- 15:05and I saw who else was in for it and I just was sort of not expecting anything.
- 15:10And I think it is healthy to have expectation and hope,
- 15:13but the chapter that I was in,
- 15:15I just was sort of nonchalant about it.
- 15:18I remember I was flying in from a research conference late the night before
- 15:23my final callback and I wasn't feeling well.
- 15:25And I just remember being like,
- 15:27man, I have to go to this final big callback tomorrow.
- 15:29And I haven't worked on the songs this week.
- 15:31And man, I just don't know. And I remember getting into these final
- 15:36two callbacks and the pianist was actually my personal accompanist
- 15:41who I've worked with, my music director,
- 15:43who I've worked with for years,
- 15:45and I see him sitting at the piano and it was just like
- 15:48All all the joy flooded into my body because I've been singing with this particular
- 15:54musician for years, and so there was also this peace and confidence about that,
- 15:58where even if my voice cracked because I was sick,
- 16:01or even if I messed up the lyrics,
- 16:04the person on the piano believed in me,
- 16:06and that really made a difference
- 16:06Ha ha.
- 16:07too. And I also felt that love from the creative team that they were they were
- 16:11so supportive and they still have been,
- 16:13you know, they are.
- 16:15very much rooting for you. I think that's also a misconception we have
- 16:19in the audition room. Like every time you walk into an audition room,
- 16:22everyone seated behind the table wants it to be you because you solve their problem.
- 16:27It's like they have a
- 16:28Right.
- 16:28problem, they don't have an actor in this role.
- 16:30They want you to walk in and be the solution.
- 16:33And so they are not preying on your downfall.
- 16:36They are rooting for you and hoping that it can be you.
- 16:39And so I feel very, very grateful that in that moment.
- 16:43It actually was. But I truly walked out of the final callback and I let it go.
- 16:47I remember I called my mom. I said,
- 16:48I did what I came here to do. I did the best I could.
- 16:51I was feeling under the weather,
- 16:53but I think I did a great job.
- 16:54I got great feedback from the team,
- 16:56but I don't think I got it. And I'm I'm okay with that.
- 16:59So when I did get the call from my agents and manager that I got it,
- 17:03I was shocked. It
- 17:03Mm-hmm.
- 17:04was probably an awkward phone call because I was so surprised.
- 17:07The universe was telling you. They were sending you all kinds of messages,
- 17:09it was gonna line up and you but that is that's so cool.
- 17:12And I like that you there was almost like a an acceptance of it of just being like
- 17:15it is what it is and like that's okay.
- 17:17And that
- 17:17Mm-hmm.
- 17:18obviously it worked out and that's so incredible.
- 17:20But like that acceptance of just being like the it wasn't going
- 17:23to be earth shattering or devastating in that moment.
- 17:25It but you were just accepting of like I did my best,
- 17:27I gave it all, and if they want me,
- 17:29they will.
- 17:30Yeah,
- 17:30exactly. And you're right. There's been like so many signs and beautiful moments.
- 17:34The fact that we opened for a month in my parents' hometown.
- 17:38So I'm a born and raised New Yorker,
- 17:39my gosh.
- 17:40but my parents are from the Twin Cities in Minnesota.
- 17:42And we spent a month there. So all of my extended family,
- 17:45my grandparents who haven't been able to travel to see me perform,
- 17:49all of them got to come and see the show.
- 17:51Like that was such a gift. Just the way that even the tour dates have lined
- 17:55up and all sorts of things to be revealed,
- 17:57it has been a gift.
- 17:59I feel very, very grateful and lucky to be here.
- 18:02That is so awesome. Now, when you're talking about dirty dancing,
- 18:05obviously again, we've mentioned that this is a show that people know,
- 18:07that they love. You know, there's scenes and moments that they c have come
- 18:11to expect. Do you think that there is ~ like a pressure or like is
- 18:17it like almost intimidating or exciting to be able to bring these moments to people,
- 18:20like kind of in the way that they know that they are,
- 18:22but also changing it a little bit?
- 18:24Sure. I'll say I, you know, just given my process with this show
- 18:29and even creating an original role,
- 18:31I feel like the pressure has been released and I'm just trying to be present.
- 18:35But I do think
- 18:35Sure.
- 18:36that that is real. And I think if I was playing baby,
- 18:39which I'm not, but if I was, I might feel a little more of that,
- 18:42which is man, Jennifer Gray and Patrick Swayze are so iconic
- 18:47and their performances are so well known.
- 18:49But truly, I believe that our cast is giving you.
- 18:54This perfect balance of honoring the original work,
- 18:57honoring the original styles and the intricacies of those moments in
- 19:02the movie that people love while also still bringing a little bit of flavor.
- 19:06Because you want to see
- 19:06Sure.
- 19:07the movie, but also if it was literally exactly the movie,
- 19:11why are you paying a hundred plus dollars and traveling to a theater?
- 19:14Just turn on the TV. But that's where I think our creative team and
- 19:19my fellow actors have done such a beautiful job,
- 19:21is they are giving you.
- 19:23That that original flavor, but with the tiniest twist.
- 19:28And I've even heard that feedback from audience members and certainly reviews
- 19:32and critics, because I get to sing a lot of these iconic songs from the movie.
- 19:37So Time of My Life is a duet between myself and the actor who plays Billy Ethan.
- 19:42And getting
- 19:42Awesome.
- 19:43to sing that song. I mean, that's one of the most sort of well-known songs
- 19:48in American culture, just more broadly.
- 19:50Yes.
- 19:50And
- 19:51so singing that song, but not
- 19:53Mimicking the original recording artist but still giving you what you want to hear.
- 19:58You know, I was just doing a podcast with my business partner about the notebook,
- 20:01and I said the one line I said in there is people nostalgia is a big thing,
- 20:04but people want to see their favorite shows just done a little differently.
- 20:07They don't want it so different that they don't recognize it,
- 20:09but they want just that
- 20:10Exactly.
- 20:11piece that is just a little bit that like you said,
- 20:13that little twist to give it something a little bit more,
- 20:15a little different. ~
- 20:16Mm-hmm.
- 20:17now for Elizabeth, is there something about her that you that like has come
- 20:23to light as you prepare?
- 20:24Performing her that maybe you didn't see originally in the script,
- 20:26or is there like a away about her or something that you kind of found about this
- 20:29character?
- 20:30Yeah,
- 20:31that's a great question. I think we've all been discovering
- 20:33her together because again, she is the the newest edition.
- 20:36I have been playing with really her playfulness is that she's young,
- 20:42it's her first time away from home,
- 20:44and so
- 20:45What was it like, even for me?
- 20:47Say when I first went off to college,
- 20:49that first moment when you're at a party at college and you're like,
- 20:53no one's watching. So I can, I can kind of be whoever I want,
- 20:56say whoever I want. I'm new to all of these people.
- 20:58So I think that has been the most fun part to discover for her,
- 21:03is just that sort of wide-eyed,
- 21:06introduction to the world that,
- 21:09you know, I'm discovering now,
- 21:11even at this point in my life,
- 21:12but even taking myself back to when I was a teenager and it was my first time away
- 21:16from home, that first moment when you realize I can be whoever I want to be,
- 21:21and I can dance how I wanna dance,
- 21:23and I can sing how I want to sing.
- 21:25So that has been the most fun part to discover because truly,
- 21:28and this is true across the board.
- 21:31So much of the character is the personality you bring to it.
- 21:35And it's not just on the page.
- 21:37And I think particularly for Elizabeth,
- 21:39which my role is more singing heavy than lines heavy.
- 21:44~ whereas Baby and Johnny are very lines and dance focused,
- 21:49and they don't sing as much in the show.
- 21:51And then there's a few of the roles that are more singing and a little
- 21:54bit less of the either scene work or dancing.
- 21:57And you know, you'll see it when you see it on stage,
- 22:00but
- 22:01discovering like reading between the lines of okay,
- 22:04well when she says that, what's what's her internal motivation?
- 22:07And even as I relate to Billy,
- 22:09this other character, at what point does she discover she likes him back?
- 22:13Because he's sort of swooning after her for a lot of the show.
- 22:16And so playing with, what does she see in him?
- 22:20And
- 22:20At what point does she kind of notice him for the first time?
- 22:23At what point does she start to get that little like butterfly feeling
- 22:27in her tummy for him? At what point does she not want him and why?
- 22:32So playing with the playfulness and then the romance has been probably
- 22:36my favorite part, apart from technically discovering the vocals of her,
- 22:40which has been a blast, and they've given me a lot of freedom to to bring
- 22:45my own vocal styling.
- 22:47That's so cool. So cool you don't always hear about shows that you get
- 22:49a lot of freedom. You a lot of them are wealth-oiled machines that have
- 22:52to they've been running forever.
- 22:53So you have to do point A to point B exactly how it is.
- 22:56~ I don't want to make assumptions,
- 22:58but I assume Hamilton was kinda like that,
- 22:59you know. It's like, you know,
- 23:00there's not a lot of change to that.
- 23:03Sure.
- 23:03I mean Hamilton is of course what well I will say 'cause I was an understudy,
- 23:08so I was covering all three Schuyler sisters,
- 23:11so I got to
- 23:12play
- 23:13around creatively with those three different roles,
- 23:15Angelica, Eliza, Peggy, Mariah.
- 23:18But of course, as you said, that show has now been running for 10 years.
- 23:23It was running a little less than that when I was in it a few years ago.
- 23:25But ~ you know, you want to give the audience what they're expecting
- 23:30and the fingerprints of the original cast are already there.
- 23:33But I will say that Hamilton creative team,
- 23:35one, they're just incredible. And two,
- 23:38they did give us some of that freedom where even for me as a cover,
- 23:43I was nothing like our three Skylar sisters at the time and they let me,
- 23:47you know, do my own thing within reason.
- 23:50Of course, like
- 23:50Right.
- 23:51you're saying, when you're originating a role,
- 23:53when the role has never been done before,
- 23:55you have much more creative freedom.
- 23:57And then what is interesting even and trippy to think about is then when future
- 24:02people step into this role.
- 24:03They're gonna look at your fingerprints.
- 24:05They're gonna look at your legacy and figure out,
- 24:07well, how do I make it my own?
- 24:09And so that's that's really exciting to think about and you know
- 24:12the possibilities of what where this show can go because the show has
- 24:17not yet played in New York City.
- 24:19So a lot of other tours that are probably coming to Detroit.
- 24:23Are shows that have already been on Broadway,
- 24:25and now you're seeing a replacement cast or a first national tour cast.
- 24:29And this is this is the original.
- 24:31And there was a previous version of Dirty Dancing the Musical about 10 years ago.
- 24:36And this is a brand new version.
- 24:38So totally revamped. So even if you saw a past version of Dirty Dancing,
- 24:43this is a new deal. New people,
- 24:46new ideas, new concepts. And the second you get seated,
- 24:49you'll realize that.
- 24:50I'm gonna say I think that you're the only show this season in Detroit that
- 24:54is original. All of them have been on Broadway before.
- 24:56So like getting to see I think that's why there is such an excitement besides
- 24:59the fact again, nostalgia, dirty dancing,
- 25:01but like there's such an excitement for the show because it's something that nobody
- 25:05has really seen in Detroit, at least they haven't gone to Broadway to be able
- 25:08to see it 'cause it's it's new and it's exciting.
- 25:11Yeah, absolutely. So be the first to see it.
- 25:15So there's obvious themes of young love,
- 25:17independence, family expectations,
- 25:18and finding your own voice in the story.
- 25:20What do these theme which of these themes do you connect with personally?
- 25:24I certainly connect with all of them.
- 25:26I you know, I think we've touched on a lot of these,
- 25:28but I think finding my voice has been ~ both in the metaphorical sense
- 25:33and the literal sense as a singer,
- 25:35is probably the one that right now I most resonate with because like
- 25:39~ we hadn't been talking about earlier,
- 25:41I did
- 25:43feel discouraged about my talent and discouraged about my voice about
- 25:49a year ago when I just received a bunch of no's in a row.
- 25:52And so to find my literal voice while getting to sing a bunch of the songs
- 25:58in the show, I sing the opening number and the closing number and do you love me?
- 26:01Which is this big moment where Johnny and baby finally meet,
- 26:04it has been a gift to settle into these roles vocally.
- 26:09And to put my own vocal stamp on it and to discover with
- 26:13our amazing music supervisor, Joseph Joubert,
- 26:17who I've looked up to for a long time and have been eager to work with,
- 26:20that has been a gift. ~ and then of course finding my own voice,
- 26:25you know, as a young woman in America
- 26:27Yeah.
- 26:27in 2026,
- 26:28just figuring out what are the things that I stand for and what does it look like
- 26:33to stand for those things. And even,
- 26:36you know.
- 26:36The digital world is we could do a whole other podcast,
- 26:39especially a psychologist and a sociologist talking about social media
- 26:43and the digital landscape and AI
- 26:44Yes.
- 26:45and all of those things. But just to say wh what is the kind of person that
- 26:50I want to be in the world? What kind of neighbor do I want to be?
- 26:53What kind of coworker? What kind of friend?
- 26:55What kind of partner? ~ all of those things,
- 26:59processing them through
- 27:00This chapter of my life has been really,
- 27:02really quite special. And I look forward to bringing all the things that I've
- 27:08learned from dirty dancing, both about myself and about the world,
- 27:11into the next chapter.
- 27:14sure. And final question for you is just what are you hoping audiences take away
- 27:17from this production of Dirty Dancing the Musical?
- 27:19Well, first and foremost, I hope you just have the time of your life.
- 27:23I hope that you have fun. I hope that you feel a release and a joy.
- 27:28I've gotten a lot of messages from audience members who said,
- 27:31I laughed, I cried, and I screamed.
- 27:34This was an absolute blast. And so I do think that theater has this service
- 27:39and this ministry to it where it gets to
- 27:42So, not just escapism, but remind you of who you really are,
- 27:46remind you of the things you love,
- 27:48remind you of when you were young and the first time you fell in love,
- 27:51remind you of what it feels like to release and just not be self-conscious.
- 27:57All of those things, I hope that audience members they get seated and they just feel
- 28:02a relief and a release from whatever heaviness they may be carrying from what's
- 28:06happening in the world or happening in their own lives,
- 28:09that they can just feel that freedom.
- 28:11And sit with us in the joy of young love and sexy dancing and really a fun summer.
- 28:18Absolutely. And I think that they will.
- 28:19~ 'cause again, this is this is hitting on so many different notes and
- 28:23I there is just a general buzzing excitement for it.
- 28:26So thank you so much for joining us today,
- 28:27Ashley. It's been such a pleasure chatting with you about dirty dancing
- 28:30and we're so excited for the show to arrive.
- 28:32Thank you so much for having me,
- 28:33Brian. It's been a blast.
- 28:35So Dirty Dancing the Musical arrives at the Fisher Theater October thirteenth.
- 28:38It runs through the eighteenth.
- 28:39So get your tickets now from ATG Detroit.