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Show 42: Proving the existence of God, why eating meat is moral and veganism is not · The Uncensored Catholic

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Hey, y'all, welcome today's show. Today we're going to try to split
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the difference. Will be a little a little political and cultural, but we're
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also going to get theological and very much into Catholic tradition and doctrine. But
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I wanted to start with but what I wanted to start with is just reading
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you a little bit from the book Radio Replies, written in nineteen thirty eight.
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As I mentioned a couple of shows back, this is one of the
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best books on apologetics. It the three volumes. First one was published in
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nineteen thirty eight, and I think they ran through the sixties. Actually it
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was two priests in Australia, and I think they began by taking letters.
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Anyone could write in a question and they would answer it on the show.
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And they openly invited anti Catholics, Protestants, atheists, communists, three Masons,
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etc. To challenge them on any issue. Excellent, excellent. By
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the end of the show, I believe they were taking phone calls. Ten
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books published, all three volumes of this, and I think it's really great.
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The very first one has an introduction by let's see what was his title
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at this time, right, Reverend Monsenor Fulton J. Sheen DD. So
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anything that is endorsed by the Venerable and God willing soon to be should have
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been already Saint Fulton Sheen is well worth reading the Venerable Fulton Sheen. I'm
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sorely attempted to go ahead and call him Saint Fulton Sheen, but we have
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to wait until the Church officially says he's what beatified. And you know,
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the only reason he hasn't been, in my opinion, is because he was
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so vocally anti communist and opposed to liberalism. And our church established right now
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is so, you know, fairly socialist at the very least. But that's
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this show for another day. We've already talked about a lot about that,
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and we will surely talk about it again. I wish Pope said John Paul
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a Second or Pope Benedict had gone ahead and done that while they still had
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competent reins in their hands to govern and steer the church. But anyway,
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this is a great book, and I hope you'll pick it up. Now.
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What I don't want to do at all, it's just sit here and
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read, you know, pages or chapters from this book. I mean one
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I'm not trying to do an audio book. Two it would get pretty boring.
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And three, I mean that wouldn't be my show. I'd just be
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ripping someone else off. So but what I would like to do is maybe
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begin each show with two or three of their questions and answers, and it
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can spur some thought and some ideas. Maybe I'll talk on it a little
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bit. Maybe you want to send me an email and ask a question,
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maybe we'll spur something for you, or leave a comment on my show and
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I can answer. So, speaking of which, a great place to comment
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is the organization I've just recently become involved with in the past week. It's
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called Catholicism Rocks dot org. Originally they got in touch and said, basically,
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can you know can we post your podcast? We would be good for
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apologetics and I should sure, And they said, well, let's talk about
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things. And after the conversation, they said, would you consider being the
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moderator of our forums and taking on a few other responsibilities. And you know,
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I'm off. I'm stretched off with than honestly. Right now, I
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am writing two books simultaneously, I am doing articles from magazine that pays me.
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I'm doing weekly articles from busy o day plus renovating a house, trying
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to go fishing and be outside and gardening as much as I can and keep
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the yard cleaned up, and you know, just to pay the bills,
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which is difficult in these this day and time with Biden nomics as he calls
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it, which is like, what is that the world's biggest train wreck,
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the worst thing that's happened to us since Jimmy Carter. But I said,
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you know what, if God opens the door, I'm going to do it.
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So I am now moderating the forums, and I would like to invite
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you to come to Catholicism rocks dot org and participate. You can ask questions
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here, and by no means am I the only one that would be answering
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your questions. There's some great writers, there's priests that contribute something almost every
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day. They actually have a section called ask Father a Question. And these
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are really orthodox, devout traditional Catholics. Let me just kind of brag a
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little bit that so far, every one of them that I've met has an
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Irish last name, So hey, you know I have to endorse it.
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Aaron Gobra, right, and the guy that runs it is actually Irish he's,
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uh, what's his name, Sean Murphy? I believe, really interesting
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guy North Ireland. I think he said he was, you know. And
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so he's been debating and arguing with Protestants and really putting up with the the
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English bigotry against Catholicism his entire life. So he's he's he's good, good,
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good solid apologists. So quite an honor to be asked to contribute by
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someone like that. But let's get into that, and then we're going to
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get into something completely different. Where would you aren't with a book on Catholic
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apologetic as well? Let's start with question number one, right, someone wrote
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in please give me evidence that God exists. I have never had any such
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evidence, for I do not accept the Bible. Let me answer, what
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do you mean by evidence? Some people think that evidence must be seen and
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touched, as an animal sees a patch of grass and eats it. But
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men are not mere animals. They have reason and can appreciate intellectual evidence.
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For example, the evidence of beauty and music or in painting is perceived by
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a man's mind, not by his senses. An animal could hear the same
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sounds or see the same colors without being impressed by their harmony and proportion.
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Apart from the Bible, together reason can detect sufficient evidence to guarantee the existence
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of God. I'm going to start with this because it actually is going to
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tie into what we're gonna talk about next, sort of man God in nature.
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But let's continue it. Just there's one more question and then we'll get
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to the thrust of the show. What evidence for God's existence apart from the
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Bible, or what is this evidence for God's existence apart from the Bible?
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I miss the word it is I do that. Sometimes There are many indications,
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the chief of which I shall give you very briefly. The verse is
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from causality. The universe, limited in all its details, could not be
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its own cause it could no more come together with all its regulating laws than
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San Francisco Harbor Bridge could just happen, or a clock could assemble itself and
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keep perfect time without a clockmaker. On the same principle, if there were
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no God, there would be no you to dispute his existence. A second
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indication is drawn from the universal reasoning, or if you wish intuition of men,
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the universal judgment of mankind can no more be wrong in this vital point
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than the intuition of the infant that food must be conveyed to the mouth.
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They probably could say it more simply. Every single tribe of man, in
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every corner of the globe has had a religion. Atheism is very recent,
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very new. It comes through the Freemasons actually, as a as an ideology.
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Now, there have certainly been individuals that would have questioned the existence of
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God, but you cannot find a people that has ever exists, from the
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very first man to this day that did not acknowledge a deity. And whereas
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he says, as the infant craves food, there's a very strong theological concept.
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I guess you would say, I think there's a better word for that.
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But it's not coming to me that every lock necessitates a key. Right,
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if you have a lock, there's going to be a key to open
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that lock or to close that lock. Every universal need of man, whether
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it be food or water or shelter, necessitates that those things are exist.
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You cannot have hunger without the food to satisfy hunger without the existence of food.
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Anyway, you may not have food, but food exists, whether you
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have it or not. You cannot be thirsty without the existence of water.
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You every single human being, for you know, ten million years, every
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organized group of people, maybe not every individual, but every group of people.
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That said, we have an honor, we have an ethos we have
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an idea, we have a philosophy, we have an identity, has believed
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in and worshiped a deity. Therefore, as that universal need was put into
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the heart of all men, there must therefore exist the thing the object of
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you would say that would satisfy that need, which would be got. I
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think there are more convincing arguments. I'll get into that later, but that
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is one that is very valid. You know, every single person needs to
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be loved. How can you need to be loved if there was no such
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thing as love? Every single person wants to be accepted. How can you
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be accepted if there was no such thing as acceptance? You know, there
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couldn't be plants without that need, the sun without the sun to support the
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plants. You can put it into any context you wish. Every lock has
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a key. The stamp of God's handiwork is so clearly impressed upon creation and
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above all upon man, that all nations extinctively believe that there is a God.
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The truth is in possession. Men do not have to persuade themselves that
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there is a God. They have to try to persuade themselves that there is
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no God. And no one yet who has attained to such temporary persuasion has
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been able to find a valid reason for it. Men do not grow into
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the idea of God. They endeavor to grow out of it. The sense
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of moral obligation confirms to these reasons, and every man there's a sense of
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right and wrong. A man knows interiorly when he is doing wrong. Perhaps
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not the sociopath, But then again, maybe the sociopath does know he's doing
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wrong and he delights in it. I've known some sociopaths. They're that's something
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to think about. Do they actually have no concept of right or wrong?
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Or do they have the concept of right or wrong but see themselves as so
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superior to those around them, or so uncaring toward those around them that they
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actually enjoy doing wrong and hurting others. I don't know. I don't know.
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I have to think. I have to ponder on that. I am
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not a psychologist. Thank god. The school psychology and psychiatry and sociology have
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been one of the greatest forces for evil this world has ever known. They
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can They try to codify immorality in medical terms, so that no one can
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say it's right or wrong anyway. And I say that as someone whose mother
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is a psychologist who told me that she came to that same understanding. And
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we you know, she has no faith or confidence in anyone that hangs out
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a shingle with you know, psychology, psy psychiatry or sociology, etc.
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Attached to its anyway, something rebukes his conduct. He knows that he is
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going against the inward voice. It is the voice of conscience, dictating to
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us a law that we did not make, and which no man could have
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made. For this voice protests whether other men know our contact conduct or not.
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This voice is often quite against what we wish to do, warning us
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beforehand, condemning us after its violation. The law dictated by this voice of
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conscience suppose as a lawgiver who has written his law on our hearts, and
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as God alone could do this, it is certain that he exists. Finally,
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justice demands that there is a God. The very sense of justice among
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men resulting in law courts supposes a just God. We did not give selves
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a sense of justice. He comes from whoever made us, and no one
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can give what he does not possess himself. Yet justice cannot always be done
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by men in this world. Here the good often suffer and the wicked prosper.
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And even the human justice does not always succeed in balancing the scales.
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And even though human justice does not always succeed in balancing the skills, they
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will be balanced someday by a just God who certainly must exist. Those are
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all persuasive arguments, and the very you all in good arguments. I had
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a dear friend, actually a girlfriend some years ago who was Jewish, beautiful
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redhead from California, actually a psychiatrist, come to think of it, and
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she didn't have much faith in the system either. She thought it was a
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load of crap actually basically just medicating people and excusing people's problems away. Yeah.
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She was a really great person, very conservative. She was actually an
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iron Rand style libertarian. Her parents were atheists and she had been raised atheists,
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so the culturally Jewish. But a friend of hers in high school was
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Catholic and invited her to work on a paper on our Lady of Fatima,
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and in so doing, she became to believe. She came to believe very
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strongly that what she had been taught was wrong. There actually is a God,
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and that miracles actually take place, and she read the Bible and she
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became vaguely Christian. She said, one of our first conversations, she said,
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I believe in God. I believe in the God of Abraham. I
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believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. But I cannot believe any church that
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hasn't existed since the time of Christ. And I said, well, yeah,
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that's pretty valid. You know, this is why I converted Catholicism.
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She said, that's you know, that's really what I'm thinking too. But
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this is why it's difficult for me. You know, in my profession,
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if I would remain an atheist, I would be accepted. If I become
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a Christian, I'm going to have trouble in my family. If I were
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to become a religious Jew, I would be accepted. If I become a
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Christian, I'm going to be rejected. And among my friends and peers.
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She was later on, you know, she was maybe your thirties at this
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point, late twenties, and she said, among my friends and peers.
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I could be any of the above, or a Protestant, but they're never
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going to accept me as a Catholic. How can I kind of convince people
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that I'm not insane? And well, that's quite a question, isn't it,
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you know? And we started, We went through various things. We
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talked a lot about such things, and she said, well, first of
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all, I need to convince my parents that there is a God, her
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Jewish parents, very logical, intelligent people, that there is a God.
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And we talked about all kinds of different things, and when we came to
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really agree on was the concept concept of the reflective nature of the universe.
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Nothing exists on its own. When we think about this, from it,
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you're only here because your parents gave birth to you. They're only here because
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their grandparents gave birth to them. It's going back every generation. No life
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can exist on Earth without the sun. The Sun is composed of burning gases,
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none of which could have made themselves. When you get down to the
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very foundation of existence. In terms of physics, everything is energy. Energy
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essentially vibrating at different frequencies, comprises all matter, all elements, all gases,
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all the light and the heat, and the you know you name it
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is energy. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but nearly merely changes
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forms. All that is was created by something before it through the same energy,
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which can neither be created nor destroyed. Yet nothing can come into existence
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through its own volition. I mean, if you think about letup, it
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simply nothing. If there is something that we could call nothing, cannot create
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something. Therefore, there it has to be a force outside of the known
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laws that we know, space and time and all that that has no beginning
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and no end, that is the creator of all things. Otherwise, the
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energy that comprises all things could not have been created because it is so different
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in nature from anything that could create it. It cannot create itself. Therefore
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is incredibly different from whatever created it. Okay, then we know there's something
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very different than anything. Science can tell us that nothing, whatever that is,
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cannot be defined by the laws of science as we know it. Depending
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no matter what field do you look into something without a beginning in an end,
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something that's a creative force. Now, why would this something be a
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creative force? Obviously it needs nothing within itself because it has the fullness of
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everything. Another concept for another day. But that creative force is lacking in
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nothing. Therefore to create do not benefited anything, so it can only be
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done out of its own benevolence. That creator is the creator of order,
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order and harmony, because only order and harmony can create disorder. Disharmony turns
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into destruction and decay. Whatever that is has to therefore be benevolent and good
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all wise, because all knowledge comes from it, and essentially you've just defied
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God. It then remains to attribute to this God. It's nature to understand
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it, and you can see what the Creator is through his works. Any
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artists or sculptor can only create the image that's in his mind. Therefore,
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you can look at the work of an artists or sculpture, etc. And
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know a great deal about that person. The words that come out of your
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mouth tell another person who you are. Therefore, we can look at the
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creation and begin to understand the Creator vaguely, you know, as the saints
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would say, through a glass darkly. But then it comes down to how
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do we The Christian God is God, and that's through revelation. So that's
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where will pick up soon, because that revelation is what differentiates why one would
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be a Christian rather than a Jew, a Muslim, a Hindu, etc.
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But as Saint Paul said when he went to the Pagans, he said,
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you already have an altar through the unknown God. I am representative of
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that unknown God which you already perceive and do not yet understand. So moving
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on from that, and so it's wearing some very natural concepts here, which
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is where I'm very comfortable as a professional herbalist and a woodsman. Just the
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gospel I happened to be reading today, Jesus said in Matthew ten, no
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disciples above his teacher, No slave is above his master. It is enough
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for the disciple that he become like his teacher, for the slave that he
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become like his master. If they have called the master of the house be
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elsible, how much more those of his household. Therefore, do not be
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afraid of them. Nothing is concealed that will not be revealed, nor secret
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that will not be known. What I say to you in darkness, speak
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in the light what you hear, and whisper on the housetops. Will you
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hear whispered proclaim of the housetops. And do not be afraid of those who
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can kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather be afraid of the
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one who can destroy both body and soul. Soul in body in Gehenna,
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are not two sparrows sold for a small coin. Yet not one of them
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falls to the ground without your Father's knowledge. Even all the hairs of your
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head are counted. So do not be afraid. You are worth more than
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many sparrows. Everyone who acknowledges me before others, I will acknowledge before my
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heavenly Father. But whoever denies me before others, I would deny before my
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heavenly Father. Now there are many today who take offense of this gospel.
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The reason why make you surprise you in this gospel, and it's one I'm
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telling you that the pedo folks and the radical vegans and vegetarians have actually demanded
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to be stripped from the Bible. Yeah, I believe it or not.
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This is a matter of controversy in some circles. Not in my world,
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thank God, but in some circles. Jesus said that God values the lives
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of men more than sparrows. Wow, right, I mean it should be
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kind of obvious. But many in our era worship the creation over the Creator.
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They consider man a scourge upon the earth and nature, something that is
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wholly impure. They insist that we should not eat meat and should value animal
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life even over human life. Seriously, the pedo folks say that babies are
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not as valuable as puppies, much less sparrows or beatles. They see all
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humanity as a force of evil and destruction. They tell you you shouldn't eat
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meat in any way or any animal products. But Jesus actually warned that the
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commandment to abstain from meat would be the sign of false prophets. Those that
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are not Christian and those who are doing the work of the devil would be
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the ones who would tell people they shouldn't eat meat. Now, I don't
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think it's was being taught in our Catholic colleges these days, because they've talked
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with many Catholics who said they were taught in college that the most responsible thing
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they can do environmental and social justice and all that is to be a vegan.
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And I give them that passage and they get really angry. Well,
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they get really angry because if you don't eat enough animal fat and protein,
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your brain doesn't work properly. Look, the Bible teaches them the Church which
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is held and should I mean the Catechism still says that nature was made for
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man, and that man is the crown of creation, made in the image
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of God. Moreover, the redemption of nature of all creation can only come
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through the salvation of man through our Lord Jesus Christ, through the fall of
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Adam and Eve, sin and death in the world. Before then everything lived
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forever into that perfectly running clock. A dent was put in one of the
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gears, and sin brought death and sickness into the world. And since then
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animals have died, and men have died, and plants have died, and
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all that only through Jesus saving mankind and bringing us back to our originals state
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of well actually divinity. Probably need to explain that it probably sounds weird to
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say a human can be divined, but remember, when we receive the Eukraus,
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God comes to live within us. It is the divinizing power of the
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Euchurus that makes us holy. Only through the return to our original state of
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holiness in adoption through Jesus Christ to be the family of God and to be
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the body of Christ, can all of creation, every planet in the galaxy,
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in the universe. I should say every form of life go back to
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its original state before the fall, and that can only happen through man.
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You know, really, I mean this who vegan is worshiping nature thing.
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Yeah, it's pagan, it's neopagan, but it's also very modern. It's
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modernism, and it's directly in opposition to the Word of God and the teachings
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of the Church. Along with abortion, divorced homosexuality, pornography, greed,
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adultery, communism, of sexualism, etc. The world is in direct opposition
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to Christianity. Should that surprise us, No, absolutely not. Jesus said,
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no disciples, abos teacher, no slave of both of his master.
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They accused him of being possessed by demons, and he said, if they
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have called the master of the house beelsible, how much more of those of
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his household. Those who hold fast to the teaching of the Catholic Church and
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are not ashamed to identify as Christians will always be in opposition of this world.
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We'll lose friends, will be a strange from family, will lose jobs
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or be passed over for promotion, will be defamed, and we'll be hated.
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Jesus promised us that and as the Venerable Fulton Sheen said, soon God
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willing to be saint. If you want to find the true church, look
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for the one the world hates. But you know what we have of the
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promise is so much more he an eternal life, eternal joy, eternal truth.
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So I mean, the next time you're faced with a demand that you
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must deny God's teachings or his church and the name of tolerance and inclusion that's
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actually excludes the truth and is intolerant, ask yourself, you know, is
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this temporal acceptance really worth more than eternal life? I don't think so,
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absolutely not. But as far as this vegan Peter whatever lunacy, you know,
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if you want to eat meat or not, that's up to you.
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There is nothing in the Bible says you have to eat meat, and there's
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no Catholic Church teaching that says you have to eat meat. In fact,
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we abstain from meat on Fridays and during Lent. Well most of us don't
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abstain from meat for all of Lent, but just Friday's used to be all
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of land anyway, as a penance, we give up meat because our Lord
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gave up his flesh on Friday when he was crucified. You can give up
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meat for longer periods of time as a personal penance or a penance for another
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person, or you know, if I mean, I've heard people who have
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a very sick family member will do that as just to enhance their prayers,
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just to you know, encourage God to grant them a miracle. Essentially,
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Remember, it is a sin against the Holy Spirit to presume a miracle.
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But we can always hope for a miracle. A miracle is something beyond human
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ability and understanding. So we can hope. And you know, hope is
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what we're called to do, not presumption. But for someone to say that
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it is immoral to eat meat is in direct opposition to the word of God.
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God made creation for man, not man for creation, just as He
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made the Sabbath for man and not man for the Sabbath. And moreover,
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let me tell you, as a permaculture gardener, radical farmer, someone who's
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a total plant horticulture geek, veganism is a myth. It's a myth.
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They think they're not eating meat, they're not killing animals, and they consider
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themselves more and moral than the saints, more and moral than the hope more
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moral than the Catholic Church, or Jesus himself who ate Lamb at the Passover,
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who ate fish as his first action when he was resurrected, appeared to
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the apostles. Their morality is superior to that of God, that is idle
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worship in itself. But they're also completely mistaken. Vegans live on a lot
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of vegetables, less soy, a lot of corn, you know, having
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grown up a farm, having been there at harvest time and been there at
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planning. Okay, when you go in and you disc complole field, you
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kill everything on it. I mean billions just an acre. You're talking hundreds
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of billions of worms and insects and mice and all that. Okay, Then
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you plan it well in commercial agriculture, then things are sprayed down with insecticides,
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chemical fertilizers, fungusides. Again, you're killing billions of insects and rhodents
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and birds and even larger animals at this point, and then when harvest time
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comes through, it's an absolute bloodbath. Dead rabbits, dead birds, dead,
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I mean anything up to the size of raccoons. They're just going to
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get ground to a pulp to have that tofu on their plate has actually cost
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probably I'm going to say, ten thousand insect to mammal lives and birds and
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everything in between, not even mention like all the bacterial life forms, and
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I mean things they wouldn't even see or under stand, you know. Anyway,
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the microscopic life of the soil is is incredibly vast, and the farming
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practices from disking and tilling to chemicals and such just kills it off. I
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mean, so that little like you know, two ounce portion of tofu or
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tofurkey or not dogs has actually killed thousands of critters, thousands, tens of
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thousands. Meanwhile, you go get a steak and one cow died, one
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cow that's going to feed one hundred people, Okay, I mean think about
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it in proportion then, I mean there's the well after harvesting, the processing
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of the food, the trucking of the food, the package of the food,
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the processing of the food. Processing enough plant based food for one person
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to survive on is actually far more taxing to the environment and polluting than just
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killing a cow and cutting it into meat. A cow that can be raised
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on pasture and actually done a natural way, if someone cares to do it.
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Chickens can be raised humanely. Pigs can be raised humanely. Check out
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Joel Salatin. If you don't know about this stuff, jol s al Ati
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n He's great. I've written extensively on the subject. Just look into anything
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like that. Chicken tractors, you name it. Look at Springer Mountain Farms
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Chicken. They raise chickens in a humane way. Someone criticized me the other
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day because I was talking about cooking pork on one of my podcasts, and
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they would saying, oh, you know, pigs are not raised humanely and
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it's so bad. Actually, it's not bad for you at all. And
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you can certainly raise pigs humanely. My great grandfather did. The pigs lived
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in the woods and they ate mostly a natural diet. They lived a long,
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healthy life, and they ended up being artisanally crafted hams, and he
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lived to be almost one hundred years old. My great grandmother lived to be
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almost one hundred years old. Pork is actually quite healthy for you, more
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than likely, and this is kind of ironic. A lot of times vegans
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will point to Jewish dietary laws saying that you shouldn't eat pork or shellfish.
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They don't want to eat lobster. According to the Epistle of Barnabas, which
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is one of the earliest writings of the early Church, those were parables allegories,
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just the same as Jesus spoken parables, and the people didn't understand well.
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Barnabas at least believed that the meaning of that passage was not that a
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person shouldn't eat pork, but that they shouldn't associate with men who acted like
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pigs, and shouldn't act like pigs themselves. Put's a whole different spin on
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the way you might understand things and whether that's true or not. When Saint
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Peter was told by Jesus and given the vision that all foods were now clean,
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and there was all peoples were clean, there was no difference between Jews
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and gentiles. There was no difference between pork and beef. Okay, also
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quite nutritious if you get good heritage pork. We have a lot of wild
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pigs in North Carolina doing the opportunity. I would much rather wild pork.
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They're actually feral. They're brought here by the Spanish. They has got out
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anyway, long story, Absolutely no reason why shoot if you raise your own
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lobs, livestock you keep a few chickens in the backyard, you keep a
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couple of raise up a couple of piglets into you know, full grown sALS,
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and and take them butcher them yourself if you can, if not,
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hire somebody, far less environment mental impact, far less killing of animals,
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and a far healthier diet than anything of vegans going to eat, because it
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literally takes per season about one hundred acres of vegetable food to feed a couple
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of vegans, and that land is just soaked with chemicals, and I mean,
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honestly, on that many acres, millions of creatures are dyeing. I
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mean, vegan vegetarian so called food is absolutely soaked in blood and in humanity.
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If you want to think about a cruelty, whereas the diet that you
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know, God gave us, be stewards of the earth, raise up livestock,
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you know, be a shepherd. I mean he was a shepherd.
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That's the whole image. What do you think those sheep are being used for
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wool and meat and milk? Actually, yeah, if you think because you're
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a vegan or a vegetarian, you are more moral than someone who isn't,
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you're actually saying you're more moral than Jesus Christ, who ate lamb and mutton
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and fish, etc. And if you think you're more moral than God,
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well then you've just violated the commandment against worshiping faults gods. Thou shalt have
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no other gods before me. Anyway, y'all, I guess that about wraps
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it up. We've gone to from where the Steve Man always says, from
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the sublime to the less sublime. We've gone from discussing how will improves the
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existence of God to why one should eat meat. And trust me, the
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other thing about all those wells soy products have phyto estrogens in them, plant
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based estrogen like chemicals. So just most of the packaging on vegetable foods,
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corn syrups increased estrogen. We could go down the list. There's a reason
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we call a soy boy a soy boy. He's like a girly man.
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We could use a whole lot more John Wayne's in this world. And John
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Wayne liked his steak and his whiskey and his cigars. And there's nothing immoral
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about any of those, so long as they're not done to excess. Gluttony
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is always a sin anyway, y'all have a wonderful evening. I'll talk to
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you next time. Remember the words of Saint Padre Pio, pray, hope
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and don't worry.