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This Week In Track & Field: Commonwealth Games’ Biggest Winners, Jakob Ingebrigtsen’s Return, Women’s 800m Heating Up Again & World U20s Starts · The CITIUS MAG Podcast | A Running + Track and Field Show

• 0:07
  All right, we are back this week in track and field.
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  August 5th calendar has already shifted to August, this year's
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  flying by. And for this episode, we're
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  going to be touching on a variety of different news
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  stories, some meets that took place, some meets that are
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  coming up over the last week and 1/2 or so.
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  So not necessarily unpacking every single result, but some of
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  the big stuff obviously that took place at the Commonwealth
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  Games last week, including Josh Kerr's brilliant Mile
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  performance and then some other big metal performances.
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  I guess Preet, we were just talking before we started
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  recording this. I was like, I can't believe the
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  Diamond League took as long as layoff as they have.
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  It's like a whole month off, but there is so much stuff happening
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  in between, between with Commonwealth, European champs,
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  U20 champs, and then eventually it'll get back to its regular
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  cadence. But I wasn't really necessarily
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  following along. I just saw a bunch of tweets of
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  people complaining what was up with like the Com games
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  broadcast and like, what's the drama with that?
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  It was like BBC wasn't really covering the Com games and it
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  was behind a paywall on TNT. Like what?
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  I guess like I was just seeing all these complaints or that any
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  sort of context. Yeah.
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  I mean, I think the context kind of goes back to what happened.
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  So this was supposed to be hosted in Australia.
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  And in 2023, Australia pulled out of hosting it because they'd
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  put it in kind of the countryside in sort of the state
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  of Victoria, but not in Melbourne, which is the biggest
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  city, but in sort of the countryside.
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  And so they were supposed to be building loads of new venues and
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  all that sort of thing. And then the government of
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  Victoria just decided this is all getting too expensive.
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  And so they basically paid a couple of $1,000,000 or whatever
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  it was to get out of that contract, which then meant that
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  people thought Commonwealth Games wouldn't happen.
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  Glasgow, which actually hosted the Commonwealth Games in 2014,
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  they stepped up. But I suppose it's a normally
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  it's like 1718 sports and this was only 10 sports.
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  So we lost a few of the few of the sort of sports.
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  We didn't have any road races or kind of anything that was harder
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  to organize across the city. So it was all like in stadium
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  events. So we didn't have triathlon, we
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  didn't have the sort of marathons or anything like that.
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  But yeah, it was. So it was a much smaller scale
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  Commonwealth Games than than we've had in the past.
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  Listen then how does that tie into the TV side of things?
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  So what I suppose what that, what that meant was that then
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  obviously they needed money to put this thing on, right.
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  So we'd said no government funding.
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  So they had a little bit of money that was kind of the
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  compensation money, but basically they needed money.
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  The BBC wasn't willing to put up enough of a, you know, broadcast
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  fee. So TNT offered to put up a bit
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  more, I guess and then they got the coverage and multi sport
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  coverage is hard, right? It's really hard.
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  And and even then, then and then doing individual sports streams
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  as well, like doing all of that. I mean, TNT, they do actually do
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  the Olympic coverage for most of Europe.
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  To be fair, they have the rights for all the Olympic coverage,
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  but obviously the investments, this isn't going to be quite as
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  high. And I think just the kind of way
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  they were cutting between events and feed, there was like stuff
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  going on. There were really good events
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  going on and there was loads of studio chat and their pundits
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  weren't, you know, they were OK, but they weren't as good as the
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  BBC pundits. I think also the schedule wasn't
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  great for the athletics. Certainly it was very spread
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  out. And so, yeah, it was just all a
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  bit like the whole thing was just in that sense, there was
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  just loads of things to kind of complained about, I guess.
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  And, and some people were objecting to some of the
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  commentary and like there were all sorts of objections going
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  around. But yeah, obviously Brits love
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  to complain about everything, right?
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  So. In the end, it took place.
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  It looked cool. I mean, I didn't watch every
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  single day or every single session, but I tuned in when it
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  did sort of align with some good time here in the US And so I got
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  to see, you know, the 100m final live.
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  I saw the 10K with Kai Robinson winning live.
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  I made time to on my, I think it was Saturday to make sure I was
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  somewhere where I could watch the mile because that one was
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  sizing up to be a great race. So I consumed a fair amount and
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  then obviously like followed along with with some of the
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  results. But we were going to touch on
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  this, I guess like to put a bow on it.
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  But since we were on the topic of like the status of the
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  Commonwealth Games, like it obviously carried a lot more
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  weight to it maybe 20 years ago. And you know, because of, you
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  know, the struggles of funding and, and, and cities vying for
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  this thing. It's, it's the future of the
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  Commonwealth Games, I guess has, has been a big topic of
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  discussion. But the next time it's going to
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  be staged, it's going to be India, right?
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  Yeah. So that is actually in the
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  state. You're going back to full scale
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  all 18 sports or whatever, Yeah. Yeah.
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  So India is basically hosting it in this in actually the city,
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  the state where I'm from. So I've got a lot of relatives
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  in that city. I'm quite looking forward to
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  that. I'm quite excited.
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  And they basically have already built a campus which they want
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  to host the Olympics there and they hosted the cricket World
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  Cup final there. They've got a ginormous cricket
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  stadium, but they've also built some of the other sports venues
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  on that campus already. So that's where I think they
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  want to kind of put their best foot forward to actually host
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  the Olympics at. What's the?
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  Air quality like. It's I think this city is not as
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  bad and dad is not as bad as like Delhi.
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  Delhi is awful. It also depends on the time of
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  year. So I think this is October so as
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  well, I think. So I think that's probably a
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  slightly better time of year to do it.
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  But yeah, I do wonder if they do bring up Olympics or something
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  to India, then I'm not sure you'd be able to do it in the
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  middle of August because that is like peak monsoon season.
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  It's. Well, think about Beijing
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  Olympics, right? Like that one was the one where
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  they made a big deal about the smog and the smoke and the lead
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  up. Yeah.
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  So I, I mean, I don't, I don't know, but but I think, you know,
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  like in terms of the Commonwealth Games, I suppose,
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  what's its place? What's its purpose?
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  There's always this, this thing of, yeah, the money is an issue.
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  Who wants to host it is an issue, but I think I suppose for
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  there are two kind of things that I, I kind of think are good
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  about Commonwealth Games. There's obviously a lot of
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  problematic things about its history and stuff, but but
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  putting that to one side as purely a sporting spectacle and
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  sporting event 1 is that a lot of athletes, it's the closest
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  they will ever get to competing in something that's like an
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  Olympics as a multi sport event. There's an opening ceremony
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  where there's a flag bearer and and they do all of that kind of
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  stuff. So that's cool.
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  And also you get some of these really small island nations,
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  Caribbean, Pacific islands that are part of the Commonwealth,
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  where actually not only do they have athletes competing, they
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  have athletes. There was an athlete from Tuvalu
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  and Naru that won a medal right at the Commonwealth Games.
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  It's cool, right? It's fun, it's nice.
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  So I think that's one aspect of it.
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  The other aspect of it is that obviously for the home nations,
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  it's great that like they get to compete as Scotland, Wales,
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  England and Northern Ireland rather than competing as GB,
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  which they do at Olympics and World Championships.
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  So that's quite cool aspect. And I think it's also a place
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  where we found athletes then go to the next level.
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  Like Beatrice Chabet won the 5000 meters at the last
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  Commonwealth Games. Like there's.
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  I could have used her out there this time around.
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  But you know, this kind of athletes that kind of start
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  their journey on that Commonwealth stage so and then
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  become well beaten. So I think it's a good stepping
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  stone as well because there isn't really a stepping stone.
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  Like once you go from juniors, world year 20s, which we'll come
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  on to, there's very little kind of bridge to kind of senior
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  level. And you can be sort of in the
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  wilderness, like trying to find your place in the professional
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  stage, particularly where you've not got an NCAA, you don't have
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  a strong domestic kind of competition like you do in the
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  US. And if you're not the kind of
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  athlete that's getting into diamond leagues, kind of it's a
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  bit of a struggle, right? So I think like these kind of
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  championships can be a good way to kind of test your
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  championship metal. And it does create some some
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  goods, good champions and and some interesting competition.
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  So to get into some of the races that took place, I want to start
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  with the most hyped up one of the entire the entire week,
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  which was the men's mile. This one sizing up to be Josh
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  Kerr coming off of the world record in London, going up
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  against past Commonwealth Games champions like Timothy Chariot,
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  who's still running really strong this year.
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  Ollie Hoare fell in the first round and then got put forth
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  into the final. Then he also had Jake Whiteman
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  and then Cam Myers, who's run 328 so far this season.
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  And honestly, like, it was a super fun race to watch.
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  Total opposite of what London was where, you know, Josh just
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  kind of lined up right behind his Pacers and then held on
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  strong. This one, I I mean it was slated
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  to be like it looked like it was going to be a 4 minute mile
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  race. Everyone was in it super
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  physical. I think like you watch back that
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  race two or three times and try and make a case for a lot of
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  different people as to like, oh, was that was that a legal push
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  or a shove? So, you know, Josh just bided
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  his time and then ultimately dominated that final lap to win
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  in 354. Ken Myers was silver in 355, Tim
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  Chariot bronze. Jake Hayward, who's been having
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  a resurrection this season, ended up 4th.
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  The race went through 12103 flat.
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  I think it was super slow and tactical.
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  And then, yeah, that last lap for Josh was 5361.
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  And yeah, I mean, he's just way fitter than everyone else right
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  now. And I was like the the the big
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  take away I had, he was clearly trying to find the right
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  position right before the bell. But he did a good enough job to,
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  you know, get his find his way to the front without falling,
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  without getting disqualified. And then just dominated.
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  I mean, he, he beating Cam Myers by 1.14 seconds.
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  Like that's, that's a lot in a, in a race like this.
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  So he backs up his form from London and once again, I think
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  just kind of shows that championship racing skill set
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  that he's had with the lethal kick.
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  So All in all was a really, really impressive performance by
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  Josh. Yeah, I mean, I, yeah, I was
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  worried. I mean, I was, I I went up to
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  Glasgow just for the last two days.
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  So I was there in the stadium for the race and obviously like
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  I was watching the race credit directly.
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  So I couldn't, I didn't necessarily get the close-ups of
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  of the pushes, but I was, I was a bit worried that Josh was
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  going to get himself dequeued, but I was.
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  But I guess they would never get a DQ him on that stage,
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  especially if he won the race like that.
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  It was just a bit of carnage if they'd done that.
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  But I think like, I was just surprised that no one tried to
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  do anything, right. Like I would have thought that
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  Cam Myers, Tim Chariot, they should have realized that Josh
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  Kerr was trapped and made a move while he was kind of still
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  trapped or at least kind of tried to make a move.
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  Like because yes, they, you know, I don't think Cam Myers
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  was there to run for a medal. He was there to run for gold.
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  And in the end it felt like he didn't do enough to try and win
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  gold, right. You know that Josh Kerr has
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  probably got the best kick, right?
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  And yes, he's also probably the fittest, but you got to try and
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  do something. And if he's sitting there back
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  there in the pack and he's trapped and he's boxed, maybe
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  you can get a few meters on him and maybe that's enough to to to
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  hold him off, right. But that was the only, I think
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  for him not to win. Jake Whiteman obviously tried to
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  go with Josh and maybe that was his downfall because I think
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  that meant that Jake obviously he's I think he's missed a bit
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  of time since the 1000 meter record race with one you only in
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  Monaco a couple of weeks back. And so he wasn't 100% in shape,
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  but I think also a mile doesn't play to his strengths.
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  The extra 109 meters is not is not in his favour.
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  And he just had to kick a bit too early compared to I think
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  what he would have liked. And so he went early to try and
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  get Josh. And I think that may have cost
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  him a medal. But but yeah, I mean, it was
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  still, it had the big guns in it.
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  And Josh proved that he is the best Mar in the world right now.
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  And I think he's done it in a championship race, he's done it
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  in a time trial, he's done both. So I don't think there's any
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  questions on that front right now.
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  But obviously we do want to see him go up against, you know, and
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  unfortunately, I'm not sure we're going to get a huge amount
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  of that. But a healthy Cold Hawker,
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  healthy Nils Laros, a healthy Jakob, right?
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  We'd love to see that. But maybe we get to see them at
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  the Ultimate Championships, who knows?
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  So Nilsaros out for the season, Jakob.
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  Here's the Jakob Ingerbritsen health update, Our recurring
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  segment. He's coming back.
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  August 10th is his return date when he's competing at the
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  European Championships in the 5K.
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  He didn't need to run a qualifying time or anything like
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  that 'cause he's the reigning champion.
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  So he had a spot. So we'll see him in action and
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  we'll we'll talk a little bit more about him later on.
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  You said that Josh is the best miler in the world right now and
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  there's no question about that. I agree.
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  What about in a month from now? Like do we think that still
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  could be the case? Because he's clearly he was
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  peeking for that mile race and using that fitness to win this
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  Commonwealth Games title. Now is where the season starts
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  to get a little bit interesting. He's one of those guys that, you
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  know, we've heard him talk about his mindset and all that kind of
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  thing. He puts a lot into what he
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  really cares about. He's all in.
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  He's all in on those two races. And now it's a big question
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  mark. And I think the next two weeks
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  of training or so, which we have no Intel on, like we're not in
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  Albuquerque or London or Seattle, wherever he might be
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  training, but he's probably going to get back to doing
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  workouts and that will dictate what he chooses to do the rest
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  of the season. There's a couple options, right?
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  So one, a lot of people want him to run and take a stab at the
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  1500 meter world record. And the best opportunity for
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  that would come at the Zurich Diamond League.
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  But that's soon. Like he's got what, a month
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  right Till till that race? He's got 3 weeks.
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  Yeah, so it's soon, which he did, I think, in my interview
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  with Danny Mackie. And I think Josh also used the
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  same phrase when it came to to when he talked to Sean Engel of
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  The Guardian. Like, they know they're flying
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  very close to the sun. And you just don't want to
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  overdo it and get injured and then risk, you know, next year
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  2028, because like he is pushing the boundaries of just sort of
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  like being the best ever. And so you got to be very
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  careful. So you could the 1500 in Zurich
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  is, is potentially on the table. When I asked Danny what the
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  percentage was, he said 40%. That was last Thursday.
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  It could have changed after Commonwealth Games, I don't
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  know. So if you choose to do, if you
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  could choose to do the 1500 in Zurich and then call it a season
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  there, I mean, if he gets the 1500 meter world record, so
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  that's your season ends up being the 2 miles and that 1500 and
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  that's it. That's what they could choose to
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  do. You also have the option of
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  skipping Zurich, taking the Sebco Super invitation to get
• 17:27
  into the World Ultimate Championships and compete there,
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  which could be appealing because it's an opportunity at
• 17:37
  redemption for 2025. Reassert yourself that you are
• 17:42
  the best, you are the champion, you could be the first Ultimate
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  champion and in order to do that you have to take down the
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  reigning Olympic champion. Who will be there?
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  Cole Hawker and the reigning world champion Isaac Nader.
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  Who hasn't looked, he hasn't looked terrible.
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  He hasn't looked great this year.
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  He's just having a regular Isaac Nader season.
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  Cole Hawker on the other hand, we knew that he was injured in
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  the lead up to the pre classic mile runs a pre classic mile.
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  Forget exactly what he runs. But I think it's faster than
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  what he's done in the past and doesn't win.
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  But that's typical. There's no need to sound the
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  alarm skips Usas. From what I understand, he's
• 18:30
  just hunkered down in Virginia training through all of this
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  because really, for him, he wants to peek in September at
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  the Ultimate Championships. And again, just like Josh Cole
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  has proven that he is very, very good at peeking.
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  So you and and, and also for Cole is he's very similar to
• 18:53
  Josh in the 1500. You want that redemption from
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  2025. So that could also be on the
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  table for Josh. Just go run in Budapest without
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  burning yourself in Zurich. I don't think he does both.
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  He's it's one or the I honestly think it's one of these options.
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  It's at Zurich 1500. It's World Ultimate champs 1500
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  or maybe they step back and they take stock of everything and
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  they're like, you know what? This season has already taken a
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  lot out of us. I as tempting as it would be to
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  run a 1500, let's go after it next year, which I know sounds
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  disappointing to us as fans, but this is again, like this is this
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  is his career. You take you you, you accept a
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  big ass payday and go run the 5th Ave. mile.
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  Which like is also probably an option too.
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  He won it last year or what two years ago ran I think the chorus
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  record. Now the appeal of him being the
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  mile world record holder. That's even bonus for New York
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  Rd. runners to draw the world record holder to the race.
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  They'll probably throw him a nice appearance fee.
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  And he ends up running something crazy fast.
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  The field probably won't be as strong because you'd have the
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  likes of Yard and a Goose who won last year, Cole Hawker, like
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  those. Those names are probably
• 20:30
  preparing for ultimate champs at that point.
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  So you just get paid, show up, go in a mile and call it a
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  season. So I think those are the three
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  options that we could see Josh take.
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  I don't think he does two of the three and because Zurich and
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  ultimate champs feels like a lot wait, wait.
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  I mean, what do you want to see? I.
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  Mean I I think there's there's two ways to look at this one.
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  One way I look at it is like to be in the shape to run the 1500
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  meter world record is really, really hard to get into that
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  shape, right? The amount of effort he has gone
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  to this season to be in that shape, you kind of want to see
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  him take a crack at it because to be honest, like next year
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  things could go 90% perfectly. But he has a slight niggle.
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  He misses a couple of weeks and that puts paid to him being able
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  to run 325 next year, right? Like if he, if he says I'm going
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  to keep it to next year, that's I think the risk you take.
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  And that's the problem that you kind of want to see him take a
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  crack at it while he's actually got this training, this level of
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  prep in his legs. And I think, yeah, the issue is
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  the whole timing thing where I think either he would have liked
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  maybe an extra week or something.
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  And maybe that's Brussels because actually he could get
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  that wild card invite to the Brussels Diamond League final
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  because he has run 1 Diamond League, which is the London 1.
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  So he can get a wild card invite to Brussels.
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  But that I, I, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
• 22:12
  To be fair, either Zurich or Brussels will quite be quick
• 22:16
  enough as races like with the tracks.
• 22:18
  I think Celestia, we know that's where, yeah, that's the problem,
• 22:23
  it's too soon. But that is the track where
• 22:25
  Jakob set his 3K world record. We know it's a super quick track
• 22:29
  for middle distance from running.
• 22:31
  And so if I'd wanted to see him do it and that that actually
• 22:36
  that meet doesn't actually have a 1500 or mile on the schedule,
• 22:39
  so they need to put one on especially for him.
• 22:42
  But that would be the place where I would say like in an
• 22:45
  ideal world, I would I would like to see him have a crack at
• 22:48
  it. Obviously, I don't think that's
• 22:49
  going to happen. And yeah, so as I say, like with
• 22:52
  the fitness, that's what I'd want to see him take a crack at
• 22:55
  it. The reality is I think the
• 22:57
  timing just doesn't line up. I don't think he's going to do
• 22:59
  it. And that means I think I just
• 23:02
  want to see him at World Ultimates.
• 23:03
  I think I think that he would do because I think he can.
• 23:08
  An 85% Josh Kerr of this year's Josh Kerr still wins that race,
• 23:14
  right? I know.
• 23:14
  I think there's a decent, you know, there's a decent chance
• 23:17
  that he he wins that race. Wait, which race?
• 23:21
  A world ultimates, right? I think, I think that you know,
• 23:24
  and if he's 85% or 90% of the Joshua that he was over the last
• 23:30
  couple of weeks, then I think he's he's got a really good
• 23:32
  chance of winning that race. And I don't know I.
• 23:34
  I don't know if I believe that because what you might be up
• 23:38
  against 100% called Hawker. Yeah, I suppose that's that's
• 23:43
  the only wild card that's in there.
• 23:44
  But he's beaten Garrett. He's beaten Cam Myers, he's
• 23:51
  beaten Tim Chariot. He hasn't beaten Cole yet.
• 23:55
  Yeah, Cole, Cole, Cole is the one best, Yeah, but as I say,
• 23:58
  Cole's had an interrupted season.
• 24:00
  So is Cole going to be at 100%? We'll find out at these next 3
• 24:04
  Diamond leagues he's slated to run in Celestia, Zurich and
• 24:07
  Brussels. If you know, assuming he gets
• 24:09
  into Brussels and it just. The beauty of Josh competing at
• 24:15
  the Ultimate Champs is that you have this convergence of
• 24:19
  potentially 2 incredible 1500 guys meeting at a very
• 24:24
  interesting point in their respective seasons where Cole is
• 24:28
  peaking for September, Josh just peaked in July and is coming
• 24:34
  down. But there's still enough time
• 24:35
  to, you know, kind of bring it back up and they hopefully and
• 24:37
  they meet in September. So I'm with you is that I think
• 24:42
  I hope he runs the Ultimate Champs because other otherwise,
• 24:47
  I don't necessarily know if we'll see Cole versus Josh until
• 24:52
  next year. And I kind of want to see it at
• 24:55
  least one time this year. Yeah, the last, the last time
• 24:58
  they faced themselves each other was last year, last summer
• 25:03
  probably. Oh no, Melrose, No.
• 25:08
  Worries. Yeah.
• 25:12
  So, yeah, that's those are the options right now on the table.
• 25:16
  I want to hear from the commenters in the on the Spotify
• 25:20
  comments section. Let us know if you are Josh or
• 25:24
  what do you want to see out of Josh Kerr?
• 25:26
  Is it a run Zurich and take a crack at the 1500 meter world
• 25:31
  record. Is it B run the ultimate champs
• 25:35
  or C Enjoy a hefty payday at the 5th Ave. mile?
• 25:42
  I think those are the three options right now.
• 25:44
  It's because you could be the only.
• 25:46
  One who votes for Seacrest because then you get to see him
• 25:48
  in person. Well, I guess even you, I'm
• 25:51
  going to Budapest, so I guess I I want to see him there.
• 25:55
  Maybe. Yeah.
• 25:57
  I don't think he does two of two of these three options as much
• 26:01
  as we want. You know how meticulous coach
• 26:04
  Danny Mackey and Josh are when it comes to to racing.
• 26:07
  And then even Danny kind of teased the idea that like when I
• 26:11
  asked sort of like if you got to assemble a 1500 meter world
• 26:16
  record attempt, like, what would it look like?
• 26:18
  And he basically said like, let's do it again next year in
• 26:22
  London, but make it a 1500. Although what isn't it the
• 26:27
  Emsley Carr Mile? Like, isn't that what?
• 26:29
  What? Yeah.
• 26:31
  But they don't always have a mile.
• 26:32
  So I think it's far like yes, that is the tradition.
• 26:35
  But obviously if Joshua wants to run the 1500, do a 1500 meter
• 26:39
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• 26:41
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• 28:37
  I wanted to highlight Georgia Hunter Bell winning that 800 in
• 28:44
  one 5951. Not a crazy fast time, but she
• 28:47
  did take it from the gun, was never really challenged.
• 28:50
  World champion Lily Nodira was more than a second back in
• 28:54
  second place. Sarah Billings from Australia
• 28:56
  took bronze. We'll talk a little bit about
• 28:58
  Australia in a second. But now, I guess at 32 years
• 29:01
  old, Georgia Hunter Bell owns an Olympic medal, world
• 29:06
  championship medal, European medal, Commonwealth Games medal.
• 29:10
  So full set from an athlete that like has only acquired all these
• 29:16
  things in the last three years, right?
• 29:20
  Because the last Commonwealth Games, Georgia was only just
• 29:24
  coming back into to the sport. So it's, it was really cool to
• 29:29
  to see her win this. And again, I guess like she's
• 29:35
  dabbling between 2 events. She's a Unicorn in the sense of
• 29:39
  like how good she is in both the 800 and the 1500.
• 29:42
  It's been a while, I guess, since I used that phrase, but we
• 29:45
  we were describing athletes last year as unicorns and she's one
• 29:50
  of them easily is a mental threat on the global stage in
• 29:55
  the 800 or the 1500. I did see that she posted on her
• 30:00
  Instagram story today. That was like back to 1500 meter
• 30:03
  work and I was just like a a short workout clip.
• 30:07
  But I was like, wait, in my head.
• 30:09
  I'm thinking it's like you got some pretty hard 8 hundreds also
• 30:13
  on the schedule coming up because I guess they just
• 30:15
  announced Zurich is where Audrey Wearo has been confirmed as the
• 30:21
  headliner and that's where she's up against Georgia, Hunter Bell,
• 30:25
  Femkabol and Lily Nodira. So when we think about world
• 30:29
  record attempts, that could be one if of course, like Lazan
• 30:34
  doesn't go according to plan for for Audrey Wearo.
• 30:38
  But even before that, the next big 800 is going to be the
• 30:42
  European Championships next week, where it's Keely versus
• 30:48
  Audrey Buero. The rematch Femco will be in it
• 30:52
  as well so far, like. And Georgia Hunter Bell's doing
• 30:56
  the 1500, correct. Yeah, that's right.
• 30:57
  Yeah. So the 800 on the women's side,
• 31:03
  which was a crazy hot event about a month ago and took its
• 31:08
  little break, now we'll be heating up again very soon.
• 31:12
  So yeah, I mean, lots to be excited about with the women's
• 31:16
  800 coming up. Yeah, agreed.
• 31:18
  And I think like Lillian Adera, it's just worth pointing out.
• 31:22
  So in that race at Commonwealth Games, she basically misjudged
• 31:25
  it badly because she had to try and catch George Antebelle or
• 31:32
  start moving on that top end. And that's where there was a
• 31:36
  massive headwind. So basically she was trying to
• 31:38
  accelerate and nothing was happening or relatively
• 31:40
  speaking, nothing was happening. And so she misjudged that.
• 31:44
  So she wasn't able to get that close to Georgia, who then made
• 31:48
  a move and was able to go away because she was already around
• 31:50
  the next bend and into the home straight and it was just too
• 31:54
  late. So I think that was just a
• 31:56
  slight tactical misjudgement. I don't understand why she
• 31:59
  wasn't further up in the field, but given how slow the race was,
• 32:03
  but she made that tactical error because she has been so
• 32:06
  successful coming from down the pack in these races.
• 32:10
  But I don't think she's had to deal with those kind of
• 32:12
  conditions. So that was probably it.
• 32:15
  And and obviously in in Europe, I think we'll we will expect
• 32:18
  friendlier conditions on the rest of the the Diamond League
• 32:20
  circuit for the rest of the year.
• 32:21
  So I don't think she'll have that to contend with.
• 32:24
  So, but yeah, well done to Georgia Hunter Bell.
• 32:27
  I think for, you know, making it look so easy to to win that
• 32:31
  race. OK, so week out from the women's
• 32:37
  800 meter final at the European Championships for folks who are
• 32:40
  wondering like when, when are all these races?
• 32:43
  August 14th, That'll be the day for for that one.
• 32:48
  We can wait until it gets closer, but right now do you
• 32:51
  lean towards Werro or Hodgkinson to win that one?
• 32:56
  Audrey Werro just ran a 400 meter PB right at the Swiss
• 33:00
  Championships. Exactly, I think she's she's
• 33:03
  stayed in shape. I you know, we just don't have
• 33:06
  any data on Keely, right. We don't have any data to say.
• 33:11
  And and that's the thing like, because we've had this little
• 33:13
  absence of data, like we've had a bit more data from Audrey
• 33:17
  Werro, who I think she ran the 400 meter PB of 50.8 or
• 33:21
  something at the Swiss champs and double back to win the 800
• 33:25
  and for what for her was jogging in I think 157 or something.
• 33:29
  So she kind of is still really in shape.
• 33:35
  And we just don't really have much data on on Keely.
• 33:41
  So you've got to you've got to give the edge to wear.
• 33:43
  Oh, just purely on data. I I think though, just out of
• 33:50
  personal and this is more vibes than anything else that I think,
• 33:56
  you know, we we've seen time and again that the team behind sort
• 34:01
  of Katie Hodgkinson, George Hunter Bell, Trevor Painter,
• 34:04
  Jenny Meadows, they know what they're doing.
• 34:06
  And given what happened over the last kind of month and a half,
• 34:14
  if they've if everything has gone well and in these last few
• 34:18
  weeks, I think she will not make the same mistakes again.
• 34:24
  She knows what Audrey can do and I think she will be prepared.
• 34:31
  So I think there is AII would quite like to say I'm still I I
• 34:37
  want to put my money on Keely, even though, you know, on data
• 34:40
  you would you'd say Audrey. Yeah, I mean, I don't really
• 34:44
  know how many mistakes were there to correct.
• 34:46
  She still ran a PB. She just got beat.
• 34:50
  Yeah, I think it is more obviously the the knock to like
• 34:53
  the fall and then the kind of just a the mental kind of
• 34:57
  confidence knocks of losing, losing a pre as well and and
• 35:02
  having that that knock and then, you know, having that fall and
• 35:05
  just not looking like you're in the right, you know.
• 35:07
  And then even in London just kind of having to tough it out
• 35:10
  for the win rather than kind of have an easy win.
• 35:15
  I think it was just, you know, we just don't know if she, you
• 35:21
  know, I think what, what, what they want to do is get her back
• 35:24
  to 154 low 153 shape, which is probably where she was trending
• 35:29
  before, you know, you know, before that kind of fall and
• 35:34
  stuff. So I think if they can get back
• 35:38
  on track then then I think it's game on.
• 35:41
  And that's what, what we all want to see.
• 35:43
  And I mean, fem Kabal, like throw fem Kabal in there.
• 35:47
  I, I think they will be like, she will be peeking for
• 35:51
  Europeans and she has surprised herself with how fast she's run
• 35:55
  so far. And she's basically improving
• 35:58
  every time essentially. So I I I do wonder whether she
• 36:03
  could throw a surprise. We're not taking world record
• 36:07
  attempt at Europeans because you got.
• 36:09
  Round, No, no, no. Yeah, I don't think it's a it's
• 36:12
  not so much because of the rounds, but I think I just don't
• 36:15
  think it's, I mean, it depends. Because if Audrey decides to
• 36:23
  become the pacer, there's a chance, right?
• 36:26
  Because the reality is like probably the best shot at a
• 36:30
  world record attempt is a race where one of Audrey, Audrey
• 36:33
  Wehrl, Katie Hodgkinson is the pacer and then the other one can
• 36:36
  sit on them and then go the last hundred 200 meters.
• 36:40
  And obviously you're never going to get that in a Diamond League
• 36:43
  because you know that that's just not going to happen.
• 36:46
  There is a chance that Audrey Weiro I, I don't think Keely
• 36:51
  will do it, but I think there's a chance that Audrey Weiro does
• 36:53
  it. She just goes out at world
• 36:56
  record what is essentially world record pace.
• 37:00
  So there is a chance. I it would be ridiculous and I'm
• 37:03
  not sure that that track is right for it because again, I
• 37:05
  think there's a bit of wind and stuff.
• 37:06
  So I don't think there's a real chance.
• 37:09
  But George Hunter Bell jogged a front round 155 on that track,
• 37:15
  so who knows? Yeah.
• 37:19
  My only thought is just sort of how rounds are going to affect
• 37:22
  the race and if it's slow, slower and the final ends up
• 37:28
  being 156 or whatever it is, and you just have a whole group of
• 37:33
  people who can win that race and that's going to make it
• 37:36
  exciting. Yeah, no, I, I, I I am really
• 37:40
  looking forward to that. I think it it it is obviously
• 37:42
  the highlight. Themka could win.
• 37:44
  Yeah, I, I would, I'm here for that.
• 37:46
  I'm here for that. I, I, I really am.
• 37:48
  Because that would, that would be, that would be even more fun
• 37:51
  to the storyline, right. And if we can then get everyone
• 37:55
  together at World Ultimates, that would be, that'd be really
• 37:59
  fun. Like I would like to see Georgia
• 38:02
  Hunter Bell in a race with Katie Hodgkinson and Audrey Wearow and
• 38:08
  Femka Ball all all together and Lilu Nadira and, and that that's
• 38:13
  kind of the race we all want to see, I think.
• 38:14
  So I'm, I'm hoping we're building up to that at World
• 38:16
  Ultimates. Yep.
• 38:18
  All right, so that's the the women's 800.
• 38:20
  Just really big picture wise. Wanna shout out how well
• 38:23
  Australia did at these Commonwealth Games because in
• 38:28
  the past, I guess like at at Commonwealth Games, and you can
• 38:31
  correct me if I'm wrong, 'cause we had Olly Whore win in 2022.
• 38:37
  But before that, so many of the jumpers, throwers, road racers
• 38:46
  were the ones bringing home medals for Australia.
• 38:50
  Sally Pearson in the hurdles, you know, years ago.
• 38:54
  But this time around this generation of their track
• 38:59
  athletes really showed out at these championships.
• 39:02
  So you had Tori Lewis and Lachlan Kennedy delivering in
• 39:06
  the sprints. Kennedy ran 985, Tori Lewis
• 39:11
  broke 11 in the mile, you had Abby Caldwell, Jess Hull,
• 39:17
  Claudia Hollingsworth go 123 and you had Cam Myers silver behind
• 39:24
  Josh Kerr, Rose Davies 5K10K gold medal, double Kai Robinson
• 39:30
  with medals in both events as well.
• 39:32
  So All in all, I mean this was a really solid championships for
• 39:38
  Australia. And then on the flip side of it,
• 39:42
  I, I was ready to crap on Kenya a bit more, but they didn't have
• 39:47
  a terrible Commonwealth Games. It's just sort of, you'd think
• 39:53
  that they would be a bit more dominant in the distance events.
• 39:56
  They had the silver medal in the 10K Diana Wanza.
• 40:02
  I'd hadn't really hadn't really heard of no medals in the
• 40:06
  women's 5K in the mile, like I said.
• 40:10
  Their best finisher was Naomi Career, who finished fifth in
• 40:16
  the 800. Odira did get silver, so wasn't
• 40:21
  a bad com games there. And then on the men's side,
• 40:26
  maybe it's a little bit better. Let's see.
• 40:30
  Well, the steeple, the the men swept, so that's good.
• 40:37
  But then I'm scrolling, scrolling, scrolling through
• 40:39
  these results. So many of.
• 40:41
  Yeah, I mean, obviously you got Timmy C Timmy.
• 40:44
  C got a medal. And bronze medals in the 8 and
• 40:47
  the 15 and. Oh, Matthew Kipsang won the 5K.
• 40:51
  So was it bad? It's just sort of like you'd
• 40:54
  expect more. I mean, it was below what
• 40:57
  they've got in the. Past at.
• 40:58
  The same time they didn't have a Wan Yoni or a Chibet or a, you
• 41:03
  know, like they didn't and or Kippier got like they didn't
• 41:05
  have a lot of their top stars. And we also know that in the
• 41:09
  distances, a lot of Kenya's top runners have moved to the roads,
• 41:14
  like they're skipping the kind of 5K10K, like particularly on
• 41:17
  the women's side. I think on the men's side,
• 41:20
  obviously, they did actually have a really good contingent in
• 41:23
  the 10K. So I think that win from Kai
• 41:26
  Robinson was wildly impressive. But at the same time, the
• 41:29
  weather was absolutely pouring. But he controlled it from the
• 41:32
  front. And that was that was such an
• 41:35
  impressive race to me. Just the weather that day was
• 41:37
  insane. And I, yeah, I have to give him
• 41:41
  a lot of credit for that, for that victory.
• 41:47
  Big breakout for Kai with the win, but also Gulveer Singh also
• 41:52
  getting on the podium in both of those events.
• 41:54
  So I'm sure India was going crazy for him.
• 41:58
  So yeah, it was, it was, it was cool to see Australia have a
• 42:04
  good, good champs here. Let's see, what else did I have
• 42:07
  for him? I mean.
• 42:09
  I wanted to give a shout out to Elise Tauner, who broke up the.
• 42:11
  Two. Oh yeah.
• 42:13
  Top steep players in Faith Charitage obviously won gold
• 42:16
  pair of Chemitai got the bronze in the end.
• 42:19
  But I think what's interesting, she ran a personal best nine O 5
• 42:23
  in this race in those conditions again, like it was windy.
• 42:27
  It was not not great weather and she just judged her race
• 42:30
  perfectly because those two went herring off at the start and
• 42:32
  Chemitai obviously misjudged it. And it's it's it's fascinating
• 42:40
  because she has run she ran 907 in that LA race a few weeks ago
• 42:46
  where she beat a lot of the US is best steeplers.
• 42:49
  And in the NCAA she was also around like she as in she was
• 42:53
  OK, she was decent. She ran 928 and in the NCAA that
• 42:57
  was good, but she wasn't winning NCAA titles.
• 43:00
  And now coming out of the NCAA just like, you know, two years
• 43:04
  down the line, she is like the kind of probably now at the
• 43:10
  moment, she's probably the 5th best steeper in the world right
• 43:13
  now at the moment behind the the top three Chematai, Cheratich,
• 43:19
  Yavi and and Buziani of Tunisia. She's she's probably #5 and
• 43:25
  that's kind of an impressive trajectory that she's on right
• 43:28
  now. And and she hasn't been in the
• 43:30
  right race to like have a pacer like literally all of these.
• 43:34
  She's kind of kept her own pace at the front of the second pack
• 43:38
  and then taken off in the second-half of the race and
• 43:41
  closed really well. And you don't get pacing like in
• 43:44
  a Diamond League steeple. They're always going off at 840
• 43:46
  pace or 85850 pace. Like you don't get pacing for 9
• 43:50
  flat or 905 to actually, which would work for her to then be
• 43:55
  able to close. So I think in the right race,
• 43:57
  she's got a sub nine in her as well, which would be amazing.
• 44:01
  But but yeah, I think big shout out to her for for this kind of
• 44:05
  continued development. You put her at 5:00.
• 44:10
  You forgot Doris Lemmingle. Sorry, Doris Lemmingle.
• 44:13
  Yeah. Put her at six.
• 44:13
  Yeah, sorry. Yes, that.
• 44:16
  Is I was like, wait, did you read 857 at Fried not that long
• 44:19
  ago? Yes, yeah.
• 44:20
  Sorry. Yes, yeah, number six, number
• 44:22
  six. At least Sterner's running
• 44:24
  European champs, right? Yes, so there she is, probably
• 44:28
  alongside Gazer Krauser. Like the gold medal is probably
• 44:31
  between the two of them because Alice Fino is the French athlete
• 44:35
  who ran really well at the Olympics and came forth, but she
• 44:38
  has not been quite in that same form.
• 44:41
  So yeah, I think it's probably. But yeah, she's got a decent
• 44:47
  shot of gold. She's going to try and run the
• 44:49
  British record, I think. British Records.
• 44:51
  Lizzzy Bird. Yes, yeah, 904 so and she
• 44:55
  obviously ran nine O 5 in Glasgow.
• 44:57
  So I think there's a decent chance of that that going at the
• 45:00
  very least. All right, so now moving away
• 45:03
  from com games, I do want to expand upon Jakob being a
• 45:08
  Britain's return. So then he he teased his return
• 45:14
  by saying putting up some video and saying I heard Birmingham's
• 45:17
  nice this time of year and then his spokesperson confirmed that
• 45:22
  he will be running. Then the Norwegian Athletics
• 45:24
  Federation entered him in the 5K only.
• 45:27
  So no 1500. For Jacob.
• 45:29
  This is going to be his first race since the 2025 World
• 45:33
  Championships in Tokyo, where he was bounced in the heats of the
• 45:38
  1500 but then went on to finish 10th in the 5K and that was all
• 45:45
  with a pretty bum Achilles. So he undergoes surgery in early
• 45:49
  February. We are holding our breath for
• 45:52
  his return in some at some point in July.
• 45:56
  July came and went and no racing from Jacob, but now he's going
• 46:03
  all in into the 5K and the field that he's walking into here is
• 46:10
  not necessarily easy. He's the fastest European so far
• 46:15
  this year is Andreas Omgren from Sweden, who's run 1248.
• 46:20
  Armgren is not running the 5K so.
• 46:22
  He's not. No, he's only running the 10, so
• 46:25
  the field is. So let me kind of I've got.
• 46:28
  The Is it Dominic Lobalis? Yes, and Dominic Lobalis run
• 46:31
  1252 he obviously ran won that Diamond League.
• 46:34
  He's he's looking good this Florian Brem of of Germany 1256
• 46:40
  and Jimmy Gracias run 1257. Mohammed Abdullahi who is the
• 46:44
  fastest 10K runner in the world this year and also won won a
• 46:49
  couple of diamond leagues early in the season.
• 46:50
  He has pulled out with an injury, so.
• 46:54
  And then there's Isaac Kameli, the world silver medalist from
• 46:57
  Tokyo. He's been cold this season.
• 46:59
  He's been very yeah, not not been great this season.
• 47:02
  So to be honest, it's only those 3 athletes, the Barley, Bram and
• 47:06
  Gressier who are like feel like there are serious threats and
• 47:12
  you know, then then you've literally, you know, Jakob I
• 47:15
  think has got a pretty. So I think Jakob's got a very
• 47:19
  good chance at a medal. And if he's anywhere, you know,
• 47:22
  if he's 80% of Jakob, I think he wins this race.
• 47:26
  I think if he's 80% of the Jakob we know and love from 2024 or
• 47:32
  early 2025, he wins this race. And I don't, I don't see, I, I
• 47:38
  think it, you know, look, because yeah, there's, there's
• 47:42
  just Almgren's not in this Abdullah, he's not in this.
• 47:45
  Andy Kamenaya is injured as well.
• 47:46
  He's not in this. So there's, there's a quite a
• 47:48
  few of the top Europeans, George Mills, he's not in this like a
• 47:51
  lot of the top Europeans are injured or out.
• 47:55
  And and so the competition perhaps isn't as deep as as we'd
• 47:59
  have liked to see, but I think that gives him a good shot of
• 48:02
  the win. Yeah, I did see that Jonathan
• 48:06
  Galt shared that there was this workout that Yaka Bran and so he
• 48:12
  did 6 by 1 K and 229 getting down to 225, two minutes rest,
• 48:17
  then 5 by 342 seconds. So share that with Kyle and
• 48:22
  Mack, who are better at interpreting workouts than both
• 48:24
  you and I. And basically I think the way
• 48:30
  Kyle interpreted, he said it's solid but probably beatable,
• 48:34
  maybe shows that he's in 1252 shape.
• 48:36
  And at that point I thought that Almgren was in the race.
• 48:40
  He's like, well, Almgren could probably out kick him.
• 48:44
  And Mack agreed overall that it's a really good sign.
• 48:49
  And if it's an even split race, then Jacob's got a chance.
• 48:54
  But it's he added that it's going to be a little while for
• 48:58
  him to get his full kick back. So even if you put him at 1252
• 49:03
  shape, then he's in contention to win this race.
• 49:04
  So at least like I think that that'll be fun to see Jacob at
• 49:09
  least mixing it up because he's been injured essentially for 18
• 49:13
  months or so, raced once and it wasn't that great.
• 49:19
  Zero races going into your return is a ballsy way to open
• 49:24
  up your championship season now two years in a row and the
• 49:28
  Achilles is something that like probably takes a while to get
• 49:32
  back from, but it's a good sign. I mean he's the one who
• 49:36
  ultimately is the judge of knowing when he's race ready in
• 49:40
  2024 before Eugene, he made the call that he would be ready for
• 49:45
  to race at the pre classic and he battled with with Josh the
• 49:49
  line. So he must have seen something
• 49:51
  in training to signal that. Hey, I'm good to give this a
• 49:55
  shot. So he's, you know, I, I live for
• 49:59
  the, the Jacob real videos that he posts that give us just a
• 50:04
  tiny glimpse of, of him back in action.
• 50:07
  Yeah, and worth remembering he has the wild card for the World
• 50:10
  Ultimate Championships. He's the Olympic champion.
• 50:13
  So there is every chance that if if this goes well, then we see
• 50:18
  him in Budapest. Cole Hawker versus Yaakov in
• 50:22
  Budapest. Yeah, well, it'll be interesting
• 50:25
  because the double, I mean, obviously it's only one race for
• 50:29
  each, There's no rounds. But I I don't know if Cole will
• 50:32
  double. He the The plan is to double.
• 50:36
  OK. Is the plan for Georgia Hunter
• 50:40
  Bell to double there? I think there's rounds in the 8
• 50:44
  so I don't think so, but who knows.
• 50:48
  Right now, taking a look at the word of Road to the Ultimate in
• 50:55
  the 5K, we've got Jakob as the Olympic champion, Cole Hawker as
• 51:00
  the world champion, and then it's Adisio Yehune, Burhanu,
• 51:08
  Beleu, Grant Fisher, Kai Robinson, Grand Blanc's Jimmy
• 51:12
  Gracie, Jacob Krapp, Binyam Mahari, Cornelius Kemboy and
• 51:16
  Nico Young. And Nico's the last guy in right
• 51:19
  now, although he scratched from Peachtree, didn't run Usas, I
• 51:26
  haven't seen any sort of announcement of him being part
• 51:30
  of any of these upcoming Diamond leagues.
• 51:34
  So if he's hurt, then his spot comes out and then Matthew keeps
• 51:39
  saying from Kenya would move up. So yeah, Kamelli's out of the
• 51:47
  picture right now. Heptam Samuels just outside.
• 51:51
  If we were thinking of another American entering the fold, it's
• 51:54
  ABI Hamid Nur, who's I think 19th right now.
• 52:00
  And he just ended up getting some good points after running.
• 52:07
  What was it? What did you run 1250?
• 52:09
  757 so and so this this yeah he ran 1257 in in Belgium at the
• 52:17
  weekends and that will you know that gets him 1200 and something
• 52:24
  points so. So he has 12, he gets 12119 for
• 52:28
  the performance and then I haven't, you know, I haven't
• 52:31
  calculated the bonus points for finishing second.
• 52:35
  It was and whatever label that was, but it will, it'll be his,
• 52:43
  it'll be his highest ranked performance and get his average
• 52:47
  up a bit. So there's a chance I'll be
• 52:50
  having nerve, yeah. Yeah, I think it pushes him up
• 52:53
  to like somewhere around 13th or 14th.
• 52:56
  So he'll he'll be just at 14th, 15th.
• 52:58
  So he'll be just outside after that.
• 53:01
  But obviously there are some more diamond.
• 53:02
  And I suppose the other thing I think, and this is where I think
• 53:05
  people may be asking like why if he was that fit, why didn't he
• 53:09
  run USA, right? Like if he's fit enough to run
• 53:11
  1257, but actually this that that 1257 gets him in with a
• 53:17
  shot of make it to world ultimates.
• 53:19
  It also means that he could get invited to a Diamond League
• 53:22
  because up until now he hasn't shown any form that would get
• 53:25
  him invited to a Diamond League. So that that's the other side of
• 53:30
  the coin there that you know, to actually get into world
• 53:33
  ultimates, you need to get into a Diamond League.
• 53:35
  To get to Diamond League, you need to run this, run this sort
• 53:37
  of race and this. This is the place to go to run
• 53:40
  fast. Yeah, because for comparison's
• 53:42
  sake, like if he did run US as and it was as slow as it was,
• 53:50
  you're not getting that many points.
• 53:52
  I'm, I just pulled it up. Vinciotti is also somewhere
• 53:56
  further down in the Road to the Ultimates map, and he got only
• 54:04
  1094 points. That's with the 50 bonus points
• 54:08
  for his victory at the US Championships, like he ended up
• 54:13
  getting 1200 and seven points from running his his 7393K at
• 54:20
  BU, 11162 points from his 1313 where he was fourth at Peyton
• 54:28
  Jordan earlier this year. So listen, if you look at the
• 54:34
  results of that race in Ordingham that Abdi Hamid Nur
• 54:38
  ran, it's like there were other guys who ran at USA, is there?
• 54:43
  They didn't do well. No, they did not They.
• 54:46
  Didn't do well at all. If you're Abdi like you like it,
• 54:49
  it was a smart move to conserve your best effort for that one
• 54:53
  race. Like he's still coming off of
• 54:56
  and working his way back from from injury.
• 54:59
  There's no need to go and win. USA is in a non championship
• 55:04
  year. So yeah, I mean, like, I don't
• 55:08
  fault Mike Smith for being careful and tactical with his
• 55:13
  athletes here. So that's it makes sense to me.
• 55:19
  And yeah, I mean, so Abhi Hamad Nur was one of the big
• 55:23
  performers there out in that in Otagum.
• 55:26
  So Otagum to me always brings back memories of 2013.
• 55:32
  I'm looking this up right now. This was one where there's this
• 55:38
  one race cause a lot of people hear about these European races
• 55:44
  from time to time and they're like, I've never heard of that
• 55:46
  random random city. But yeah, no, this is it.
• 55:52
  In 2013 there was a 1500. And this is back when 332 was
• 55:56
  fast. 332 popped up as a result, and a lot of Americans ran their
• 56:02
  lifetime PBS in this race. Jordan McNamara, a name maybe
• 56:05
  you don't remember, was fourth. Garrett Heath in that 134334.
• 56:11
  Andy Bayer, Corey Leslie, Will Lear, Chris O'Leary, Chris
• 56:16
  O'Hare. That was one where I think like
• 56:20
  everyone in Europe just heard of the results on that day being
• 56:24
  like what? Like all these people just
• 56:26
  randomly ran their PBS at this small meet in Belgium.
• 56:32
  And so that's whenever I hear about Oregon, that's that's
• 56:36
  that's what comes to mind. And it's still yielding some
• 56:39
  some fast times. Marco Langan 334 for the win and
• 56:45
  Alicia Monson is back 1450. So that's a really good step for
• 56:50
  her fastest time since I think 2023 for her.
• 56:53
  So that's a pretty good, good showing and show she, she's on
• 56:57
  her way back and I think you know that that's someone that
• 57:00
  we, we definitely want to see back.
• 57:02
  It's been a long, long journey for her.
• 57:04
  So that one was really, really heartwarming to see.
• 57:07
  Yeah, it's it's been a solid season.
• 57:10
  And again, like these are you got to think that the coaches
• 57:14
  are playing it, you know, smart with these athletes coming off
• 57:18
  of injuries from last year or even the last two years.
• 57:23
  Like Monson has run ran fifteen O 3 in LA back in June and then
• 57:28
  just popped off this 1450 in Belgium.
• 57:32
  And that is her. It's up there.
• 57:37
  I think like it's in her top ten fastest times, but obviously
• 57:40
  like nowhere near her 1419 American record from 2023.
• 57:48
  So, yeah, I mean, she's coming back into form and it's an
• 57:52
  injury that for some people is really, really hard to, to come
• 57:57
  back from. And I think Aisha Prot Lear has
• 58:00
  talked about this on on her podcast 'cause she had the same
• 58:03
  exact surgery that Alicia Monson did.
• 58:05
  And it's, it was not easy Rd. back.
• 58:09
  So yeah, we'll, we'll keep tabs on on Alicia Monson's progress
• 58:15
  again, like a race like this maybe gets you into another
• 58:20
  upcoming Diamond League 5K is is the 5K is in Celestia, right?
• 58:26
  Celestia yes, yeah, Because I think Park of Alby said after
• 58:29
  USA, she was hoping to run there and I think again, she's run
• 58:32
  1439. So hopefully that that gives her
• 58:36
  a decent shot at getting in. I think because I think on the
• 58:40
  women's side, no one's really taken the 5K by by storm this
• 58:44
  year. Like the Weke of Ethiopia has
• 58:47
  probably been the most consistent.
• 58:49
  But again, it's not really been anything, you know, Faith KPI
• 58:53
  guns from one and won the Diamond League, but she's only
• 58:56
  won the 1. So, you know, there hasn't
• 59:00
  really been anyone, you know, taking it on in the absence of
• 59:03
  Segi Chibet, etcetera. Yeah.
• 59:08
  I wonder who's doing the road to the ultimate events like the the
• 59:15
  tracker, because they don't even show Beatrice Chibet up there as
• 59:18
  the wild card because they know that like she's out on on
• 59:22
  maternity leave, but that like Beatrice Chibet's name doesn't
• 59:24
  even even show up. But yeah, so for this one, it's
• 59:28
  it's 12 spots. The only American right now in
• 59:33
  the whole field is Shelby Houlihan who is 7th on there.
• 59:37
  Parker Valby's outside right now ranked 16th but with a good
• 59:41
  showing and Celestia could probably move into to the
• 59:44
  picture. Rose Davies who is coming off of
• 59:47
  those Commonwealth Games is sitting in 11th right now and
• 59:51
  part of that is from the 3K at the London Diamond League and
• 59:57
  then the five KS at the Tokyo World Championships.
• 1:00:02
  So some people are benefiting from.
• 1:00:06
  Last year's World Championships is, as I click into, you know,
• 1:00:09
  kind of that bottom, that bottom tier of the people qualified so
• 1:00:13
  far. So we'll probably have a bit
• 1:00:15
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• 1:00:21
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  Some more random stories that took place over the last week or
• 1:02:05
  so. Did you follow along with this
• 1:02:08
  Daniel Denasimiento story, Preet?
• 1:02:11
  As in, I heard he'd gone missing and and it was all very
• 1:02:16
  mysterious, but that was kind of about as much as I knew about
• 1:02:19
  it. So yeah, what what happened
• 1:02:21
  after that? Yeah, he was missing for 44
• 1:02:24
  days. That's a long time.
• 1:02:28
  And his family, I guess, had last seen him June 19th.
• 1:02:33
  And he was like the report that they gave to police when they
• 1:02:37
  described him was that he like, left with the black backpack and
• 1:02:39
  that was it. Then I think a month goes by and
• 1:02:43
  his birthday was like sometime in late July, and no one had
• 1:02:46
  heard from him. So then they finally reported
• 1:02:49
  him missing and it took a couple days, but they did find him
• 1:02:53
  alive in Sao Paulo 44 days later and some pedestrian recognized
• 1:03:02
  him on the street, called the local authorities and he was
• 1:03:07
  they managed to reunite him with his family.
• 1:03:09
  But yeah, it was there. The, the police and, and
• 1:03:14
  investigators haven't shared too much about just sort of what
• 1:03:17
  prompted the disappearance, but it's a weird one for sure.
• 1:03:21
  His mom was doing I think a couple media rounds in the days
• 1:03:26
  leading up once he was reported missing because she'd said that
• 1:03:32
  he'd been dealing with some mental health issues.
• 1:03:35
  He's also currently serving A5 year ban after testing positive
• 1:03:39
  for like 3 different banned substances.
• 1:03:42
  And so, yeah, I could see where, you know, there's there's not a
• 1:03:49
  ton of compassion in, in, in committing the doping crimes.
• 1:03:52
  But of course, like if someone's going through something mentally
• 1:03:55
  as a result of losing their livelihood, it comes as a
• 1:03:59
  consequence of your actions when you chose to break, break the
• 1:04:03
  rules. But yeah, you just hate to see
• 1:04:06
  scary stuff like this happen to people's families.
• 1:04:09
  And so glad he's doing all right now.
• 1:04:12
  Hopefully you can make it through the rest of his doping
• 1:04:14
  ban if he chooses to make a comeback.
• 1:04:15
  Probably not, but without any sort of future disappearances.
• 1:04:21
  But it was a weird one because again, the lead character in the
• 1:04:27
  story is someone who's currently serving a doping bed.
• 1:04:29
  So yeah, that was a that was a funky one.
• 1:04:34
  Next story that I queued up, Dennis Kip Kemoy, Kip Kogi.
• 1:04:40
  We talked about him a little bit, I think on the podcast
• 1:04:44
  months ago because we maybe touched on the fact that there
• 1:04:49
  was like this half marathon in Berlin that took place.
• 1:04:53
  Do you remember this period? Vaguely, but.
• 1:04:57
  And he ran 5911 in that race but let let the guy win 'cause he
• 1:05:02
  was in it to pace. Oh, that's the guy.
• 1:05:05
  Yes, of course. Yeah.
• 1:05:06
  And so he was feeling great at that at, at, you know, while
• 1:05:11
  running that race. And yeah, we'll see.
• 1:05:14
  He's also around 2725 for 10K, but he turns 25 years old.
• 1:05:20
  I think this week he he's going to be a freshman at Texas.
• 1:05:26
  So, yeah, it's it's one of those where, listen, we just I got the
• 1:05:35
  NCAA eligibility rules are changing five year, five years
• 1:05:41
  to to complete your eligibility, but none of that takes place
• 1:05:45
  until fall 2027. And so because this year
• 1:05:51
  athletes coming in are recruited under the old rules, then this
• 1:05:57
  means that I guess like he's going to be able to compete for
• 1:06:02
  I think it's the next four years based on the age based model.
• 1:06:08
  I haven't entirely dove too deep into.
• 1:06:10
  The regular, regular eligibility, right.
• 1:06:12
  So it's just yeah, it will. So I don't know whether you can
• 1:06:15
  Reg share or anything but. My head it's, it's just so head
• 1:06:20
  scratching to me, 'cause we had this with Solomon Kipchogi just
• 1:06:22
  a couple of years ago as well, where these guys have run these,
• 1:06:28
  you know, prominent half marathons out in Europe where
• 1:06:31
  you presume finishing second, fifth, whatever it might be.
• 1:06:36
  There's some prize money there, right?
• 1:06:38
  They're they're kitted out in professional Nike or Adidas kits
• 1:06:45
  and so they look like they're professionals and then all of a
• 1:06:48
  sudden the NCAA finds a way to, you know, find them eligibility.
• 1:06:55
  So that's where in the past, I think there have been some cases
• 1:07:00
  with soccer players losing some eligibility upon further review
• 1:07:05
  of having some sort of professional stature.
• 1:07:07
  But yeah, I think this guy has a chance of winning the NCA title.
• 1:07:13
  I, I, it feels like, I suppose being professional in track and
• 1:07:18
  field doesn't really get you very much, so maybe that's why
• 1:07:20
  they don't care so much, right? There might be like a threshold.
• 1:07:23
  It's like how much money did you actually make before?
• 1:07:28
  Like, to be considered a professional.
• 1:07:30
  And So what did he only collect $5000 in that race And, and made
• 1:07:35
  zero and was on some sort of gear deal.
• 1:07:37
  And so that's not enough necessarily to make him
• 1:07:41
  ineligible. I don't know.
• 1:07:43
  But like, it's like the the NCAA announcing these age limits and
• 1:07:49
  then delaying it is what has like, created this weird window
• 1:07:52
  for the next year. Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  And. I I guess they kind of had to,
• 1:07:56
  they had to delay it because athletes for 24/20/26 had
• 1:08:00
  already been. Recruited.
• 1:08:02
  Right, but I and I, and I don't know how long ago they recruited
• 1:08:05
  this guy and whether, you know, he was, he was recruited before
• 1:08:11
  or after that announcement was, was made.
• 1:08:13
  But because like for example, in my my day job, when they change
• 1:08:17
  a tax rule, for example, they say from the day it's announced
• 1:08:21
  you can't then. So if you'd already recruited
• 1:08:24
  people under or you already done stuff under the old rules,
• 1:08:27
  that's all fine. But from the day it's announced,
• 1:08:30
  you can't do anything more. But I guess they didn't really
• 1:08:32
  apply that here because I guess some schools may not have filled
• 1:08:37
  their recruiting class by the point that announcement was
• 1:08:39
  made. And so that kind of changes the
• 1:08:42
  dynamic a little bit. Yeah, I understand that.
• 1:08:46
  Some of these coaches are not necessarily breaking rules.
• 1:08:50
  This is the system that like is in place.
• 1:08:54
  And so you're you're you're taking advantage of it as much
• 1:08:57
  as you can. If you if your job and your
• 1:09:01
  contract incentivizes you to win conference championships or
• 1:09:06
  place as high as possible and then qualify for like the NCAA
• 1:09:09
  cross country championships. But in the end, it's sort of
• 1:09:13
  signals like for certain coaches that's like, oh, like you want
• 1:09:20
  the easy way to win. And instead of, you know,
• 1:09:24
  actually taking the time and chance on a high schooler and
• 1:09:30
  then developing sort of that talent over the next couple
• 1:09:33
  years, again, like it's not necessarily again, you're doing
• 1:09:37
  something against the rules. But I do think that other people
• 1:09:39
  should take note and be like, oh, that that guy is a coach who
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  is just, you know, bringing in these free agents, which is
• 1:09:49
  essentially what they are to come in and try and win versus
• 1:09:53
  like, oh, I like this coach because you can actually see
• 1:09:58
  that they are working with their athletes from when they were
• 1:10:01
  freshmen all the way through their senior years and
• 1:10:03
  developing sort of that talent. So, yeah, I mean, it's some,
• 1:10:08
  some people will, will, will take the the easy way to finish
• 1:10:12
  a couple spots higher at the NCA cross country championships.
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  But I definitely give some kudos and props to the coaches who are
• 1:10:22
  opting to stay on the path of like, no, this is the NCAA has
• 1:10:26
  always been like a great development system for athletes
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  from all over the world. Like you again, like you look at
• 1:10:32
  some of these athletes like Josh, like you know, Josh Kerr,
• 1:10:37
  he came through at Ollie Hoare, came through the NCAA system,
• 1:10:42
  has found, found ways to have success at the international
• 1:10:47
  level. So Kylie Robinson.
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  Exactly. So yeah.
• 1:10:52
  Then there's there's also like no guarantee it ever works,
• 1:10:54
  right? When you do bring in this 5911
• 1:10:57
  guy faster than any American half marathoner in history,
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  because who knows? Like Solomon Kapchogi was maybe
• 1:11:07
  on paper. You look at those times and you
• 1:11:09
  think, oh, this dude's going to dominate the cross country
• 1:11:11
  championships and then he didn't like the first year.
• 1:11:15
  I think he like DNS at the championships and then last year
• 1:11:19
  ended up finishing third. So there might be like that
• 1:11:22
  adjustment period from going from living at altitude and
• 1:11:26
  training in these camps and all you do is running to then having
• 1:11:31
  to move out to somewhere like Austin, TX.
• 1:11:36
  In this case, have a coach you're running maybe less or on
• 1:11:43
  different surfaces at the very least.
• 1:11:46
  And then on top of that, you add in a class schedule as well.
• 1:11:48
  So the school part of it maybe throws things into a flux as
• 1:11:52
  well. So we'll see how this whole
• 1:11:56
  thing pans out. But it did just get a little bit
• 1:11:58
  harder for Rocky Hanson to win the NCAA cross country
• 1:12:03
  championships. Haftam Samuel just left and he's
• 1:12:06
  turning pro. But so now well, as it gets
• 1:12:11
  closer, probably bring back on Isaac Wood to preview the NCAA
• 1:12:15
  cross country season. But I thought that that was an
• 1:12:18
  interesting story that came out. All right, very briefly, let's
• 1:12:25
  touch on U 20s coming up. I I mean, not coming up.
• 1:12:31
  It just it started today. It's happening as we're
• 1:12:34
  recording this. I have it up on this monitor by
• 1:12:37
  me for you, I guess like are there any particular races that
• 1:12:41
  you're excited by? Well, I mean, I think just
• 1:12:45
  stepping back, obviously we were looking forward to gout, gout.
• 1:12:49
  We were looking forward to Sam Ruth and we were looking forward
• 1:12:51
  to or I was certainly looking forward to Phoebe Gill.
• 1:12:54
  And unfortunately all three of those have all withdrawn with
• 1:12:58
  injuries over the past past few months.
• 1:13:00
  I mean, you know, I think the sprints are always probably the
• 1:13:05
  better races to watch at U 20s because if you look at the
• 1:13:08
  records going back like in terms of people who then become
• 1:13:12
  medalists on the world stage, you will see a lot of those
• 1:13:16
  transition probably a bit more quickly.
• 1:13:19
  And whilst in sort of the middle distance distance races, you
• 1:13:23
  know, there isn't as high a hit rate of transition to the sort
• 1:13:27
  of, you know, senior level because there is just a very big
• 1:13:31
  gap right to get up to that level.
• 1:13:33
  And some people just don't get that.
• 1:13:35
  Whilst I think in the sprints actually, you've already got,
• 1:13:38
  you know, Shenoya Douglas from Jamaica, she's already run sub
• 1:13:41
  11. She's already world class,
• 1:13:43
  right? You're starting, you've got Tate
• 1:13:44
  Taylor, he's won a Diamond League for heaven's sake.
• 1:13:46
  You know, like he's beaten. Let's see late Tomogo, who's the
• 1:13:49
  Olympic champion at 200 meters. Like you've got those kind of
• 1:13:52
  athletes in the mix. So I think, yeah, I think those
• 1:13:57
  100 meters and 200 meter races I think are, are by far and away
• 1:14:01
  the most interesting. You know, Jamaica's Gary Card
• 1:14:04
  versus Tate Taylor is a really exciting match up in the 100.
• 1:14:09
  And the the, the sort of the Maxwell twins from the US and
• 1:14:15
  Shenoy Douglas are kind of fascinating in the in the
• 1:14:18
  women's hundred along with Kelly Antoala, who's just 16 from
• 1:14:22
  Italy. And she's been running like
• 1:14:25
  Italian, like sort of national junior records every time she
• 1:14:27
  runs. So she's getting better and
• 1:14:28
  better. So she's like one of those
• 1:14:30
  athletes that could break out. And then obviously in the 400,
• 1:14:33
  you've got Quincy. Wilson the rematch.
• 1:14:35
  Versus Jaden DeLeon, yes, obviously Quincy Wilson got
• 1:14:41
  second in the the 20 champs, and yeah, he'll be wanting to get
• 1:14:46
  his lick back. I'm looking forward to that
• 1:14:49
  race. That'll be, I think one of the
• 1:14:51
  better ones of of the championships rooting for for
• 1:14:55
  for Quincy, especially because, you know, we've covered him
• 1:14:59
  super closely over the last four years.
• 1:15:03
  And also just great for the redemption arc story in the
• 1:15:09
  distance events. You did a great job there of
• 1:15:12
  summarizing the sprints for Jamaicans like this is a great
• 1:15:18
  showcase for Shanoe Douglas and and Gary Card.
• 1:15:21
  Like those are going to be, I think some of the stars from
• 1:15:23
  from this one on the distance side of things, again, it's just
• 1:15:30
  sort of we're going to learn a lot of names.
• 1:15:34
  Franklin Cabet from Kenya is maybe the favorite.
• 1:15:39
  Actually, he is the favorite in the 5K.
• 1:15:42
  He won World Cross back in Tallahassee and ran thirteen O 8
• 1:15:48
  in Paris. So watch for him in the 5K in
• 1:15:52
  the women's 3K5K. Uganda's charity chair op like
• 1:15:58
  she ran 839 in Oslo and has run 1439.
• 1:16:03
  Think about that. Like if we had an NCAA athlete
• 1:16:06
  run 1439, we'd be losing our minds.
• 1:16:09
  So she'll be the star in that one.
• 1:16:13
  Women's eight opened up right? And once Phoebe Gill scratched.
• 1:16:19
  Yeah. I mean, I think there's yeah,
• 1:16:21
  there's there's one athlete you sub two, Serena, Ziva Remich.
• 1:16:26
  But then yeah, the, I think it's a, there's a, then there's an
• 1:16:29
  Ethiopian athlete, Hampton Gebbier, who who's also run sub
• 1:16:33
  2. So they're the only two athletes
• 1:16:35
  sub 2. So I think it's relatively open.
• 1:16:37
  Obviously there's Paige Shepherd from the US.
• 1:16:39
  She's run 201 and and kind of raced really well at USAS.
• 1:16:43
  I want a sub two out of age in in yeah.
• 1:16:46
  Exactly, And I and I think in the right race, and I think this
• 1:16:48
  might be a slightly better race for it 'cause there's a lot of
• 1:16:51
  athletes who'll kind of be running together and, and she'll
• 1:16:53
  have people to run with. I think so that that could that
• 1:16:58
  could be a really good race for her.
• 1:17:02
  If you're looking for some feel good US stories and and athletes
• 1:17:08
  to watch in that fifth women's 1500, although it's going to be
• 1:17:12
  tough because Ethiopia is Oh my gosh, this is a tough name.
• 1:17:17
  Howard Gawney Kalayu Kalayu. She's running 359.
• 1:17:24
  Yeah, no, she's been on a few of the diamond leagues this season,
• 1:17:26
  so. I think 5 times she's been in 5
• 1:17:27
  diamond leagues. Yeah.
• 1:17:29
  So yeah, we talked about her a little bit in some of our.
• 1:17:33
  So I mean she's going to be tough to beat, but some good
• 1:17:36
  stories. Ellery Lincoln.
• 1:17:40
  She ran four O 7 for 1500 at the pre classic and finished 8th.
• 1:17:43
  I believe that was in the the B section and she's going off to
• 1:17:47
  to Oregon. Her mom ran four O 4 and won in
• 1:17:52
  NCAA indoor 3K title. Her dad was also a professional
• 1:17:56
  runner. So she she's pretty good.
• 1:18:01
  But then again, Claire Stagall was the one who beat her at the
• 1:18:04
  U20 championships, ran four O 4 there.
• 1:18:08
  And then also, I think Claire held her own against the pros at
• 1:18:12
  the US Championships. So not out of it's it wouldn't
• 1:18:18
  be too crazy to think that maybe the Americans have a shot at a
• 1:18:21
  medal here and that'd be really good to see.
• 1:18:23
  So, yeah, so you can watch EU 20 Championships taking place out
• 1:18:29
  in Eugene, OR if you've got a Peacock account, I believe
• 1:18:32
  they're streaming the whole entire thing, so pretty easy to
• 1:18:37
  find. But yeah, that's the U20
• 1:18:39
  championships. Next week we've got the European
• 1:18:43
  Championships, right? When's that start officially?
• 1:18:47
  So that starts on Monday day 10th of August and day one is
• 1:18:51
  Jakob Ingeritsen day. So maybe we we got on the mics
• 1:18:56
  after that one or, or on Tuesday, Tuesday morning.
• 1:18:59
  What? What would need to happen for a
• 1:19:02
  Jakob Ingebridge an Emergency podcast?
• 1:19:04
  I don't mean an emergency podcast.
• 1:19:06
  We normally record on a Monday night.
• 1:19:08
  It's my time. I'll be at the stadium Monday
• 1:19:11
  night watching Jakob. So I was just thinking, you
• 1:19:14
  know, that would be, we will be recording I assume shortly
• 1:19:18
  thereafter anyway, hopefully next week, so.
• 1:19:22
  Yeah, OK. I I guess I was meant to say I
• 1:19:25
  was like. Wait, I'm not, I'm not
• 1:19:26
  suggesting he will be in emergency podcast territory.
• 1:19:28
  No, no. Although he's not going to break
• 1:19:33
  a world record, is he? So no.
• 1:19:35
  Yeah, I guess that that's that's been the threshold so far this
• 1:19:38
  year. His emergency podcasts have been
• 1:19:40
  reserved for Keely's, Keely's world record indoors and Josh is
• 1:19:44
  my all world record, right. I think those have been the two
• 1:19:46
  big ones. And the saways.
• 1:19:49
  To something, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:19:51
  So yeah, the world record, the big world records.
• 1:19:54
  Yeah, awesome. All right, Well, that does it
• 1:19:57
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• 1:20:00
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• 1:20:03
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