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The Kenny Report | 26 August · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 2: The evil hand of Iran blamed for at least two
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  Speaker 2: anti Semitic fire bombing attacks in Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Finally Labor takes action against.
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  Speaker 2: This terrorist supporting Islamus regime and punts the ambassador. Shadow
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  Speaker 2: Home Affairs Minister Andrew Hasty will join me and Alex
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  Speaker 2: Rivchen will give us the reaction from the Australian Jewish community. Also,
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  Speaker 2: Kristen Tate in the US on Donald Trump and lawless cities.
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  Speaker 2: Will Chicago be next across to that terrible police shooting
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  Speaker 2: in Victoria? And we'll cover all the issues with Stephen
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  Speaker 2: Senna Tiempo and Suzi O'Brien.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: This stunning revelation today that the Islamic Republic of Iran
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  Speaker 2: is a responsible four two and possibly more andy Semitic
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  Speaker 2: attacks on our shores is a seismic development on many
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  Speaker 2: It underlines again just how weak and reckless the Albaneze
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  Speaker 2: Labor government has been on antisemitism and on Iran. I'll
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  Speaker 2: get into that in a moment, but first here's how
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  Speaker 2: the news was revealed early afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: Ran has sought to disguise its involvement, but Asio assesses
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  Speaker 3: it was behind the attacks on the Lewis Continental Kitchen
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  Speaker 3: in Sydney on October twenty last year and the Adas
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  Speaker 3: Israel Synagogue in Melbourne on December sixth last year. Azio
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  Speaker 3: assesses it is likely Iran directed further attacks as well.
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  Speaker 2: For those who tried to downplay the rising tide of
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  Speaker 2: antisemitism in this country, the Adas Synagogue attack ended the argument.
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  Speaker 2: In December last year, the early morning firebombing destroyed the
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  Speaker 2: treasured place of worship. A couple of community members were
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  Speaker 2: inside the synagogue, but thankfully no one was killed or injured,
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  Speaker 2: but the sent was frightening.
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  Speaker 1: Police have made a couple of arrests.
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  Speaker 2: And clearly investigations have taken them all the way to Iran.
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  Speaker 2: The fire bombing at the Continental Kitchen, a kosher food
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  Speaker 2: supplier in Sydney's Bondai Beach, happened the month earlier, and
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  Speaker 2: it also sent a wave of fear into the local
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  Speaker 2: Jewish community. Such is the impact of these hateful crimes
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  Speaker 2: that the kitchen no longer operates at that location. Its
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  Speaker 2: only shop front is a website and it runs from
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  Speaker 2: an undisclosed location. Now, Australia's retaliation against Iran and Islamist
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  Speaker 2: theocracy is strong, but it also had to be careful.
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  Speaker 3: We informed the Iranian ambassador to Australia that he would
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  Speaker 3: be expelled. We have suspended operations at our embassy in
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  Speaker 3: Tehran and all our diplomats are now safe in a
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  Speaker 3: third country.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how bad Iran is.
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  Speaker 2: You have to get your own people out first lest
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  Speaker 2: they be taken as hostages, as happened decades ago at
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  Speaker 2: the American embassy in Tehran. No one should be surprised
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  Speaker 2: by this terrible news. Iran is the malevolent force that
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  Speaker 2: funds and organizes terrorism around the world and especially in
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  Speaker 2: the Middle East against Israel. It is Iran that funded
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  Speaker 2: HMAS and sparked the October the seventh atrocities against Israeli civilians.
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  Speaker 2: It is Iran who funded Hezbollah in Lebanon and prompted
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  Speaker 2: its rocket attacks against Israeli civilians. It is Iran that
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  Speaker 2: funds the Huties in Yemen, who also fire rockets indiscriminately
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  Speaker 2: into Israel. And it's Iran who backs terrorists in Syria
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  Speaker 2: with many attacks against Israeli civilians. And now we know
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  Speaker 2: Iran has been working against the Jewish community in our
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  Speaker 2: own country too.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the ASIO boss.
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  Speaker 4: For the past ten months, anti Semitism has been one
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  Speaker 4: of of asio's most pressing priorities, involving the full use
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  Speaker 4: of our capabilities and powers.
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  Speaker 2: ASIO believes Iran is behind other attacks too, and we're
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  Speaker 2: likely to learn more in the future.
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  Speaker 1: But let's not be revisionist here.
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  Speaker 2: The Albanesi Labour government has been jelly backed in its
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  Speaker 2: response to anti jew and anti Israel hatred in this
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  Speaker 2: country since October the eighth, twenty twenty three, Since the
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  Speaker 2: day after the atrocities in Israel, Albanesi has failed to
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  Speaker 2: take a strong stand, even when we had crowds chanting
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  Speaker 2: into Fada on our streets demanding the annihilation of Israel
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  Speaker 2: by chanting from the river to the sea and marching
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  Speaker 2: behind pictures of terrorist leaders and posters of the Supreme
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  Speaker 2: Leader of Iran, the Ayatollah, who funds and praises Islamis terrorism.
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  Speaker 2: Even seeing all that, Albanesi has called these protests peaceful.
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  Speaker 2: The Foreign Minister has tried to be revisionists today.
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  Speaker 5: Even before today, the Abanesi government had taken stronger action
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  Speaker 5: on Iran than any previous Australian government. And we have
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  Speaker 5: long known that Iran and its proxies try to destabilize
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  Speaker 5: countries in our region and beyond.
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  Speaker 2: Really, labor has been strong, not weak. The coalition leader,
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  Speaker 2: the former coalition leader, Peter Dutton, remember him. He was
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  Speaker 2: calling for an end to diplomatic relations with Iran last
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  Speaker 2: year and then there was this at this very desk.
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  Speaker 1: This is all about Iran.
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  Speaker 6: I have been calling for months for Australia to reconsider
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  Speaker 6: its diplomatic relations with Iran. Why are we giving that
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  Speaker 6: country are legitimacy of a diplomatic relationship, particularly when Iran
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  Speaker 6: is the great exporter of terror. Hiszbala has destroyed Lebanon
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  Speaker 6: as a functioning democracy. A Hamas is responsible for the
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  Speaker 6: single largest murder of Jewish people on a single day
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  Speaker 6: since the Holocaust. Iran continues to ablized countries and they
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  Speaker 6: particularly hate Israel. And we saw them saying death to
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  Speaker 6: Israel in the Iranian parliament. Why because Israel stands for
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  Speaker 6: everything there against it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Australia should have been a lot stronger, a lot
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  Speaker 2: earlier against the evil Islamist regime in Iran, where by
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  Speaker 2: the way, they imprisoned women for failing to wear veils.
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  Speaker 1: And remember, just back in June, when the.
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  Speaker 2: US finally took out Israel Iran's nuclear weapons program that
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  Speaker 2: Israel had initially attacked. This is something that many in
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  Speaker 2: the free world had hoped for for more than a decade.
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  Speaker 2: Albanizi and co. Failed to come out and quickly endorse
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  Speaker 2: the US attack. As I pointed out at the time,
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  Speaker 2: no support, no endorsement. They just slipped out a pathetic
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  Speaker 2: statement with yet another call for dialogue and de escalation.
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  Speaker 2: Embarrassing stuff. They couldn't even support their main alliance partner
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  Speaker 2: taking military action to protect Israel and the world from
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  Speaker 2: a rogue, theocratic extremist state intent on destroying other countries.
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  Speaker 2: They could not even support the US stopping Iran from
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  Speaker 2: getting a nuclear bomb. Yeah, they eventually said a bit more,
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  Speaker 2: but their weakness is manifest. But there can be no
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  Speaker 2: escaping of course, Albanesian Labour's legacy here. They have been
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  Speaker 2: soft on anti Semitism and soft on Iran, and now
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  Speaker 2: they've got a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of catching up to do.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, here is a former Labor Foreign Minister, bobkar
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  Speaker 2: and a current Labor federal MP, ed Husik joining a
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  Speaker 2: protest where you see in the background they're the supreme
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  Speaker 2: leader of Iran being.
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  Speaker 1: Used as a poster boy.
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  Speaker 2: No labor MP should have anything to do with these
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  Speaker 2: hateful protests.
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  Speaker 1: The PM calls them peaceful.
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  Speaker 2: Really, they're not anti war, they are anti Israel. They
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  Speaker 2: are being used to divide our community and preach hate
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  Speaker 2: by backing the horrors of inter Fada and chanting from
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  Speaker 2: the river to the sea.
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  Speaker 1: We need leadership in Australia and we need it now.
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  Speaker 2: The ABC spends more than a billion dollars of your
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  Speaker 2: money every year, largely failing in its duty to inform
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  Speaker 2: Australians about what's going on here and overseas. Consistently in
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  Speaker 2: breach of its charter, which demands plurality and objectivity, the
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  Speaker 2: National Broadcaster pumps out green left propaganda day in and
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  Speaker 2: day out. As you know, in the process it does
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  Speaker 2: enormous harm to our nation. A taxpayer funded bayomouth in
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  Speaker 2: char is charged with informing the nation, but instead it misinforms.
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  Speaker 2: If you only got your news from the ABC, you
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  Speaker 2: would think Australia is suffering from unprecedented climate catastrophes that
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  Speaker 2: renewable energy can deliver reliable energy that's cheap, and that
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  Speaker 2: by switching to renewables in Australia we will change the
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  Speaker 2: global climate. It really is that unscientific and ridiculous. And
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  Speaker 2: on the Middle East, if you listened only to the ABC,
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  Speaker 2: you would think Palestine is a country that hummaus are
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  Speaker 2: freedom fighters, and that Israel's war to root out the
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  Speaker 2: terrorists of hummus is actually Israel's attempt to wipe out Palestinians. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: against this backdrop, the ABC's Media Watch program last night
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  Speaker 2: devoted eight minutes of its airtime and lord knows how
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  Speaker 2: many staff hours from its over resourced program to criticize
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  Speaker 2: one interview on this station.
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  Speaker 1: I kid you not.
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  Speaker 2: They talked about Sharry Markson's interview with Israeli Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: Benjamin Nettinharu. They analyzed it, they asked a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: retired lefty journalists about it, and they bagged.
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  Speaker 7: With a track record of breaking news and a rolodex
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  Speaker 7: of politicians willing to take her call. Few could really
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  Speaker 7: argue Sharry Markson is an unseerious journalist.
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  Speaker 8: But for me, this interview crossed the.
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  Speaker 7: Line into open advocacy for the Neten Yahoo Government.
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  Speaker 1: Your taxes at work.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of perhaps examining the abcn's the ABC's own misinformation
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  Speaker 2: about the war in Gaza, instead of actually sharing some
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  Speaker 2: facts with the public, they ran a pathetic swipe at
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  Speaker 2: a female journalist, a female journalist who they line up
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  Speaker 2: so often and with so much misinformation that it starts
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  Speaker 2: to look like an obsession or bullying, or.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps just envy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I guess it is pretty embarrassing to see
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  Speaker 2: one journalist consistently breaking more stories every year than an
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  Speaker 2: entire billion dollar outfit employing four thousand people. Perhaps the
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  Speaker 2: ABC would do better to fact check its own journals
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  Speaker 2: instead of constantly and uncritically running hummus propaganda and the
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  Speaker 2: lines from the United Nations.
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  Speaker 1: To the extent that they differ. Here was the ABC
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  Speaker 1: on the weekend.
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  Speaker 9: Famine has been declared in Gaza, impacting more than half
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  Speaker 9: a million people, nearly a quarter of the population.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they went on to show the harrowing struggle
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  Speaker 2: of a poor little girl in Gaza suffering from severe
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  Speaker 2: illness rather than famine. The UN spokesman for the latest
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  Speaker 2: famine declaration was this man.
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  Speaker 10: It is a famine the Gaza famine. It is a
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  Speaker 10: famine that we could have prevented if we had been allowed.
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  Speaker 10: Yet food stacks up at borders because of systematic obstruction
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  Speaker 10: by Israel.
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  Speaker 2: This, of course, is never interrogated by the ABC, even
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  Speaker 2: though just.
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  Speaker 1: Two months ago.
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  Speaker 2: The same man run the ABC actually ran the same man,
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  Speaker 2: the same official saying this.
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  Speaker 10: You know, let me describe what is on those trucks.
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  Speaker 10: This is baby food, baby nutrition. There are fourteen thousand
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  Speaker 10: babies that will die in the next forty eight hours
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  Speaker 10: unless we can reach them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the ABC ran that without checking it too, even
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  Speaker 2: though it sounded out landish and unlikely, it suited their narrative.
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  Speaker 4: Fourteen thousand babies could die within the next forty eight
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  Speaker 4: hours in Gaza if there's not enough aid cent there.
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  Speaker 11: That is the grim warning from the United Nations Humanitarian Chief.
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  Speaker 12: When they hear reports from the United Nations such as
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  Speaker 12: this week that fourteen thousand babies are potentially going to
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  Speaker 12: die this week as a result of a lack of
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  Speaker 12: baby food in Gaza, how do they defend that?
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  Speaker 1: But of course it turned out to be absolute rubbish.
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  Speaker 2: It sounded fanciful and it was the BBC, the UN
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  Speaker 2: and all sorts of other media had to correct it.
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  Speaker 2: The claim was based on a study that said fourteen
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  Speaker 2: children between six months old and five years of age
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  Speaker 2: could suffer malnutrition over the next year if aid supplies
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  Speaker 2: did not improve. Relevant information, sure, but nothing like what
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  Speaker 2: the UN said and the ABC parroted. Just one more
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  Speaker 2: example of the ABC's daily demonization of Israel and misleading
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  Speaker 2: of the Australian population. And while they want to focus
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  Speaker 2: on interviews, let's have a look at one that was
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  Speaker 2: conducted on the ABC last night. When Sarah Ferguson interviewed
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  Speaker 2: Israeli Diaspora Minister Amachai Chickley, she started with this reference
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  Speaker 2: to Australia's anti Israel and pro Palestinian protests.
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  Speaker 13: At least two hundred thousand Australians demonstrated here over the
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  Speaker 13: past couple of weeks, So at the same time four
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  Speaker 13: hundred thousand Israeli citizens were demonstrating in Tel Aviv. Why
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  Speaker 13: shouldn't Australians take their cues from the Israelis.
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  Speaker 2: Take the accus from the Israeli protests. The Israeli protests
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  Speaker 2: are nothing like our protests. The Israeli protesters demand an
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  Speaker 2: end to war. They demand the release of hostages. They
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  Speaker 2: are driven by the desperation to get the Israeli hostages
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  Speaker 2: back from Hummus. They fly Israeli flags and yellow flags
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  Speaker 2: for the hostages. The Israeli protests are not anti Israeli,
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  Speaker 2: surprisingly enough, unlike ours, our protests.
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  Speaker 1: Display the flags of terrorist.
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  Speaker 2: Organizations of Hummus and Hezbala and Isis all who want
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  Speaker 2: to eliminate the Israelis, and our protests chant from the
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  Speaker 2: river to the sea, telling the world they want to
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  Speaker 2: obliterate Israel.
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  Speaker 8: You reckon?
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  Speaker 2: They chant that in Tel Aviv, and they chant for
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  Speaker 2: inter fata. That is more terrorism against the Israelis.
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  Speaker 1: Poulos, Yeah, do you reckon?
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  Speaker 2: The Israelis in Tel Aviv chant for interfarta, calling on
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  Speaker 2: the Islamist extremists to launch terrorism attacks against themselves. That's
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  Speaker 2: what we get from the protests in Australia. How dare
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  Speaker 2: Ferguson and the ABC equate these ugly anti Israeli protests
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  Speaker 2: in Australia with desperate Israelis protesting for peace in Israel.
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  Speaker 2: And remember, nobody watching the ABC would know about any
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  Speaker 2: of this because the ABC doesn't show the interfarta chant
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  Speaker 2: or the terror flags. The posters of terrorist leaders and
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  Speaker 2: the Iranian leadier leader. The ABC tells the public these
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  Speaker 2: are just lovely, peaceful protests, you know, just like the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister says. But there's more in that interview.
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  Speaker 1: You listen to ferg and.
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  Speaker 2: Cut in when Chicley complains about mainstream commentators, a former
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  Speaker 2: politician and a serving Israeli politician being banned from Australia.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to stop you there.
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  Speaker 13: Let me put it, let me put another.
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  Speaker 8: From this government.
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  Speaker 13: I think I need to make it very clear that
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  Speaker 13: there is no ban on Zionist coming to Australia. But
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  Speaker 13: let's talk about you. You're the Minister reality, You're the
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  Speaker 13: Minister for the diaspora. There were specific conditions given for
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  Speaker 13: the refusal of those visas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an ABC journalist defending her government, making her
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  Speaker 2: Green left government's case about banning mainstream Israeli visitors.
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  Speaker 1: A journalist defending the banning.
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  Speaker 2: Of people for expressing mainstream views that our government doesn't like.
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  Speaker 1: Just extraordinary, But on it goes.
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  Speaker 2: Look at this doozy, As Ferguson explains, the genius of
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  Speaker 2: Albanesi's plan to recognize a non existent Palestinian state, But.
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  Speaker 13: The Albanezi government when it made a decision a pledge
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  Speaker 13: to recognize a Palestinian state at the forthcoming General Assembly
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  Speaker 13: at the UN in September, it did so with a
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  Speaker 13: clear stipulation that that would only happen if Hummas played
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  Speaker 13: no role in a future Palestinian state. So how does
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  Speaker 13: it honor, as you put it, rapists and murderers of
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  Speaker 13: Hummas when that pledge explicitly rules them out.
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  Speaker 2: Really, Ferguson and the ABC by that you can just
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  Speaker 2: rule Hummas out?
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  Speaker 1: Why hasn't anyone done that?
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  Speaker 2: They demand Israel adopts a ceasefire now that is, they
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  Speaker 2: demand that Humas is left in charge of Gaza. But
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  Speaker 2: they reckon there could be some sort of Palestinian state
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  Speaker 2: with Hummas excluded from any role.
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  Speaker 1: How will that happen? How do you.
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  Speaker 2: Exclude Hummas if you don't dismantle them?
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  Speaker 1: What will Albo and Ferguson Just.
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  Speaker 2: Ask them, Just ask them, blood thirsty Islamist extremists. If
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  Speaker 2: I mustard, please go away, it's part of our deal.
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  Speaker 2: This stuff would be risible if it were not so dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: And it shows the absolute hutzpah of the ABC to
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  Speaker 2: criticize any interview conducted by any other journalist anywhere, anytime.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to.
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  Speaker 2: Canberra now and catch up with the Shadow Home Affairs
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  Speaker 2: Minister Andrew Hasty. Andrew, thanks for joining us on this
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  Speaker 2: day of dramatic news. Firstly, were you surprised when we
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  Speaker 2: heard these revelations today that Iran has been behind at
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  Speaker 2: least two of these firebombings, these anti Semitic fire bombings.
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  Speaker 1: Good evening, Chris.
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  Speaker 11: I wasn't surprised, surprised the government had taken so long
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  Speaker 11: to decide to list the Iranian Republican Guard Corps as
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  Speaker 11: a terrorist organization. The coalition has called upon the government
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  Speaker 11: since twenty twenty three at least ten times to do so.
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  Speaker 11: But it is good news and we back the government
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  Speaker 11: in this decision to remove the Iranian ambassador from our country,
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  Speaker 11: to expel him and three other people in the embassy
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  Speaker 11: have been made persona on Grada as well as the listing,
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  Speaker 11: and we'll be working very closely with the government to
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  Speaker 11: expedite the process of listing the IRGC as a terrorist organization.
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  Speaker 1: Now let me just.
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  Speaker 2: Walk this through though, because Iran doesn't just do this
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  Speaker 2: for the hell of it. Why would Iran want to
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  Speaker 2: exacerbate the anti Semitic stresses in this country. Would Iran
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  Speaker 2: be looking to divide our country so that it might
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  Speaker 2: put more pressure on our own government, so that our
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  Speaker 2: labor government might do something like, you know, promise to
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  Speaker 2: recognize the Palestinian state.
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  Speaker 11: Look, what we've seen over the last decade is a
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  Speaker 11: rise in underhanded tactics used by authoritarian regimes, whether it's China, Russia, Iran,
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  Speaker 11: North Korea. And one of the ways they go head
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  Speaker 11: to head with democracies is by attacking our social cohesion.
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  Speaker 11: Which is why using a proxy or a cutout to
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  Speaker 11: effectively attack Jewish Australians or Australian who are Jewish. I
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  Speaker 11: want to make that very clear, Australians who are Jewish
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  Speaker 11: by attacking the bakery and Bondai and the Adas Synagogue
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  Speaker 11: in Melbourne, that's a way of sowing discord, disagreement and
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  Speaker 11: creating fear. So it's a very powerful tactic in places
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  Speaker 11: like Australia and other democracies around the world. Iran is
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  Speaker 11: very sophisticated with the way they do this. This state
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  Speaker 11: sponsored terrorism. The Iranian Republican Guard Corps had operational control
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  Speaker 11: of this. They use cryptocurrency encrypted communications to run a
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  Speaker 11: series of proxies and deliver this violent.
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  Speaker 1: Extremism on our shores.
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  Speaker 11: And that's why a redline has been established by the government.
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  Speaker 1: We support it wholeheartedly.
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  Speaker 11: We just think this should have been done at least
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  Speaker 11: the listing of the IRGC at least two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I think you're absolutely right in what you said
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  Speaker 2: there about the Iranian aims.
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  Speaker 1: Now, as you know, I've got a background in this.
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  Speaker 2: I served for many years for the Australia's Foreign Minister,
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  Speaker 2: dealing in issues of espionage of Islamist extremist motivations and events.
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  Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: They want to undermine any democracy, create social discord in
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: any democracy, weaken them, especially if they happen to be
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: a strong ally of the United States.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: And of Israel.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: But is it not also the case that they would
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: hope for a political dividend and they would love to
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: see they would see the proposed recognition of a Palestinian
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: state by the Albanesi government as being some sort of
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: fruit from their Machiavelian labors.
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: That's right.
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: The political dividend would be a geopolitical outcome such as
• 21:53
  Speaker 11: the one that we've seen over the last few weeks
• 21:56
  Speaker 11: which we vehemently disagree with the government on, and that
• 21:59
  Speaker 11: is the wrecking of a two state solution without conditions,
• 22:03
  Speaker 11: which basically emboldens and empowers Hamas and that's very problematic.
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: But I also want to make the point Chris, that
• 22:09
  Speaker 11: can you imagine if people had been killed in these
• 22:13
  Speaker 11: attacks that would have been targeted assassination of Australians of
• 22:18
  Speaker 11: a Jewish heritage or background. So I want to underscore
• 22:22
  Speaker 11: how serious this is. This wasn't just a fire bombing
• 22:25
  Speaker 11: of the Dust Synagogue. This could have been deadly and lethal,
• 22:30
  Speaker 11: and I think it's a very strong move and an
• 22:34
  Speaker 11: important message to send that we will not tolerate foreign interference.
• 22:38
  Speaker 11: We will not tolerate espionage, sabotage or any other underhanded
• 22:43
  Speaker 11: tactics that authoritarian regimes might conduct or think about conducting
• 22:47
  Speaker 11: on our soil.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Exactly, and thank goodness ASO and the authorities are onto this.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, of course, we've had these
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: so called pro Palestinian anti Israel protests, including a former
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Foreign Minister of Australia joining the one in Sydney where
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: the poster of the Supreme Ruler of around the atoll
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Mean was bandied about. There's been other hate preachers there.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: There's been the pictures of Jaga Simwa banded about, slogans, sorry,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: symbols and flags of Hamas, of Hezbala of Isis. Yet
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: we've seen our authorities not in Devene in any direct way.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Are you are we confident that ASO and our.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Other authorities are watching these protests carefully enough and following
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: up with these people, or should we be arresting some
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: of these people in public for brandishing these symbols.
• 23:40
  Speaker 11: I had a briefing today from the Director General of ASO,
• 23:44
  Speaker 11: Mike Burgess. Got a lot of confidence in Mike. I've
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: known him for at least five or six years during
• 23:49
  Speaker 11: my time as the chair of the PJCIS. I know
• 23:52
  Speaker 11: he's working very hard to make sure that he keeps
• 23:55
  Speaker 11: Australian safe. But the challenge we have now is that
• 23:59
  Speaker 11: this is becoming so i'des spread. We have people coming
• 24:01
  Speaker 11: out of school effectively chanting the Hamas lines from the
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: river to the sea. Now they might not know what
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: that actually means, but that is to effectively extinguish not
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: just the Jewish state, but the Jewish people from what
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: is now Israel. So this is the challenge when it
• 24:19
  Speaker 11: comes to contesting some of these ideas, and this is
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: the challenge in fact in the West Bank and Gaza,
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: you can remove from us. But as we've seen from
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: polling out of the Palestinian Authority, their own polling arm,
• 24:32
  Speaker 11: what we've seen with the polling is that Hamas still
• 24:34
  Speaker 11: enjoys widespread support in Gaza and the West Bank. October seventh,
• 24:38
  Speaker 11: the attacks are still supported across both areas, and armed
• 24:44
  Speaker 11: struggle is still considered a legitimate means of realizing a
• 24:47
  Speaker 11: Palaestinian state. And as long as those ideas are out there,
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: we're going to have to really be mindful of the
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: threat to our cohesion here, the threat of violence to
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: the Australian people. And that's why a law enforce an
• 25:00
  Speaker 11: intelligence agencies are going to have a big work laid
• 25:03
  Speaker 11: not just in the next year, but over the next
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: half decade.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I think thanks so much for joining us, Andrew Hasty.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it greatly. Shutout Home Affairs Minister Andrew Hasey.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: They're live from Canberra and he is dead right. The
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Coalition has been calling for the end of diplomatic relations
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: with Iran for a long long while. Also the listing
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of that Iranian Republican Guard outfit as well, which the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: government has.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Done to do.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: So they've been calling this for at least a year,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: and only now after these shocking revelations is the government
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: catching up deeply worrying, isn't it now? I want to
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: go to that shocking shooting in Victoria today. Two police
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: officers have been killed and another officer is wounded, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: that was at a property around three hundred kilometers northeast
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: of Melbourne. A short time ago, Georgie Dickerson filed this report.
• 25:51
  Speaker 14: That's where we are right now is around two hours
• 25:54
  Speaker 14: from where this incidents took place. Earlier this morning, it
• 25:58
  Speaker 14: is believed that police were conducting a search warrant on
• 26:01
  Speaker 14: a property in Perpunka, which is around three hundred kilometers
• 26:05
  Speaker 14: northeast of Melbourne. It is when that they were executing
• 26:08
  Speaker 14: this search warrant. Three police officers are believed to have
• 26:11
  Speaker 14: attended the property and then it is believed that an
• 26:14
  Speaker 14: ambush style has occurred with this person that they were
• 26:18
  Speaker 14: going to execute the search warrant on firing at authorities.
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: One officer has been wounded too, have been confirmed to
• 26:26
  Speaker 14: be deceased. The third was in a critical condition and
• 26:29
  Speaker 14: it's believed he suffered a gunshot wound to his leg.
• 26:33
  Speaker 14: But it is still very much an active situation at
• 26:36
  Speaker 14: this stage. Police are warning any people around the area
• 26:40
  Speaker 14: to remain vigilant. They're telling people not to go towards
• 26:43
  Speaker 14: the area as there is still an active shooter. It
• 26:47
  Speaker 14: is believed that the person responsible for this shooting has
• 26:51
  Speaker 14: actually taken the hostages and is believed his wife and
• 26:54
  Speaker 14: children have gone up into bushland near where this incident
• 26:57
  Speaker 14: has taken place, but now more officers are on their way.
• 27:01
  Speaker 14: It is believed the Special Operations has been in the area.
• 27:04
  Speaker 14: There is a massive police presence around the area now.
• 27:08
  Speaker 14: Multiple businesses have basically gone into lockdown, shutting their doors.
• 27:12
  Speaker 14: A lot of the local schools have also have gone
• 27:15
  Speaker 14: into lockdown as well. As this remains an active police situation.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what a shocking situation.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Listen up, if you're in that area, don't go into
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: that area, and obviously in that area, listen to.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: The local authorities the police.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Warnings because there is an active shooter and they're still
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: on the hunt for him. The Victorian Police Chief Commissioner
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Mike Bush. He's going to speak at six pm. We'll
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: have that live with the Steve Price, for Linam for
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Peter Quedlin. We're going to go to a breakdown. After
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the break I'm going to catch up with Alex Ritchen
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: from the Jewish Australian community to get their reaction to
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the Iran synagogue attack. Those attacks being linked directly to Iran.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Let's get back to the top story of the day,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: and Australia's diplomats have been evacuated from Iran and our
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: embassy in Tehran shut down and the ambassador from Iran
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: expelled from Australia after Asia revealed that Iran is responsible
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: for at least two anti Semitic attacks on our shores,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: including the fire bombing of the Adas Synagogue and a
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Kosher food supplier in Sydney.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Here's the ASIO boss and the Prime Minister.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: ASIO analysis is the Iranian government directed at least two
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: and likely more attacks on Duish interests in Australia. Our
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: painstaking investigation uncovered and unpicked the links between the alleged
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: crimes and the commanders in Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: the IARGC.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: These were extraordinary and dangerous acts of aggression orchestrated by
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: a foreign nation on Australian soil.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Let's go again to Alex Ritchan from the Excscative Council
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: of Australian Jury.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Good to talk to you again, Alex.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: In the terrible circumstances, tell us the reaction to You've
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: experienced so much of this hatred over the past almost
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: two years, but now the confirmation that some of it
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: at least has been directed from Iran.
• 29:18
  Speaker 15: There's not a great deal of shock that Iran was
• 29:20
  Speaker 15: behind this. We will recall that at the beginning of
• 29:23
  Speaker 15: the investigations the police alluded to their investigations pointing to
• 29:27
  Speaker 15: a foreign actor, and the minute they said that, I
• 29:30
  Speaker 15: think most people assumed that Iran was a number one suspect.
• 29:33
  Speaker 15: This is a regime through its IRGC, which reads havoc
• 29:36
  Speaker 15: throughout the world. It's carried out terrorist attacks devastating Jewish communities,
• 29:40
  Speaker 15: Israeli targets and Western targets in many continents. So there's
• 29:44
  Speaker 15: no surprise here. But at the same time, when you
• 29:46
  Speaker 15: receive this confirmation that it was indeed Wigan in regime
• 29:50
  Speaker 15: that via the Mullers and then the IGC and then
• 29:53
  Speaker 15: their various operatives and networks and cells throughout the world.
• 29:56
  Speaker 15: They actually identified these strange Jewish community selected targets and
• 29:59
  Speaker 15: hit them in this way. It's a chilling thing to learn,
• 30:03
  Speaker 15: and it obviously raised a lot of questions in terms
• 30:05
  Speaker 15: of are their operatives still at large, how many people
• 30:08
  Speaker 15: were involved, how do they get to Australia all of
• 30:11
  Speaker 15: these things, and particularly is there an ongoing threat to
• 30:13
  Speaker 15: the community. I mean, I spoke earlier to the owners
• 30:17
  Speaker 15: of the business that was targeted in Sydney. They're beside themselves,
• 30:20
  Speaker 15: you know, knowing that they were targeted in this way
• 30:22
  Speaker 15: by such a devastating, deadly foe. It's a terrifying thing
• 30:25
  Speaker 15: to learn of.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely terrifying. But I just want to ask.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: You, is there any sense in which there is any
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: comfort that perhaps that's the homegrown anti Semitic hatred might
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: not be as severe that is being directed from these
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: sinister overseas forces.
• 30:43
  Speaker 15: Well, what we're learning so far is that this was
• 30:45
  Speaker 15: a complex network, involving obviously the reigning regime. We've seen
• 30:50
  Speaker 15: the role played by organized crime and then local operatives
• 30:53
  Speaker 15: as well, and so it doesn't diminish the extent of
• 30:56
  Speaker 15: anti Semitism. I think the lesson here is actually the reverse.
• 30:59
  Speaker 15: I think it shows how determined, how sophisticated, how deadly
• 31:03
  Speaker 15: these forces of anti Semitism are in the lands. They
• 31:05
  Speaker 15: will go to to menace and terrorize our community.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: At the same time, we're having protests where people are
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: openly chanting for interfata. They're regularly chanting from the river
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: to the sea, Palestine will be free.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: They're even marching with flags from.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Terrorist groups and a poster of the Supreme Leader of Iran.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Does this not just underscore that our police and governments
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: or our authorities have been too soft on the hateful.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Messages brandished about it these protests.
• 31:35
  Speaker 15: Well, I can only hope that the police and security
• 31:37
  Speaker 15: agencies are very carefully monitoring all of these rallies, identifying
• 31:42
  Speaker 15: people that are sympathetic to prescribed organizations and terrorist regimes,
• 31:46
  Speaker 15: and taking action to protect this because these rallies we've
• 31:48
  Speaker 15: seen are a gathering point for all manner of extremists.
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: They bring a.
• 31:54
  Speaker 15: Very deadly ideology, They radicalize people who come along. You've
• 31:57
  Speaker 15: seen kids being coached to chamfer and into and all
• 32:00
  Speaker 15: of these things. So action clearly needs to be taken.
• 32:04
  Speaker 15: But I think there's also a moment here where those
• 32:06
  Speaker 15: who attend these marches, and we've seen tens of thousands
• 32:09
  Speaker 15: it's heading in Sydney and various other seats throughout the
• 32:11
  Speaker 15: country where they need to pause and reflect what side
• 32:14
  Speaker 15: they're on and whether they're on the right side of history.
• 32:16
  Speaker 15: They think they are. But if you're marching next to
• 32:19
  Speaker 15: people holding posters of sinoa and estralla and the Ayatola,
• 32:24
  Speaker 15: knowing how that that regime has carried out a tax
• 32:26
  Speaker 15: on Australian soil, I think you need to seriously question
• 32:29
  Speaker 15: your morality and which side you've chosen to be on.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Given the dynamic that's played out in this country over
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the past twenty odd months, and also given the dynamic
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: that's played out since the Sydney Harbor Bridge protest. Do
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: you believe that the albin Easy Labor Government's decision and
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: pledge to recognize this non existent state of Palestine, do
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: you believe that that would have been fruit a fruit,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: a desired outcome from Iran's interventions in Australia.
• 32:59
  Speaker 15: There's no question, there's no question that whatever the intent
• 33:02
  Speaker 15: of the Australian government, and I take them at their
• 33:05
  Speaker 15: word that they're seeking to advance peace and end the
• 33:07
  Speaker 15: conflict and have Israel an Apalstinian state living side by side.
• 33:12
  Speaker 15: Whatever that intent may be, the outcome is very different.
• 33:15
  Speaker 15: They have handed a huge victory to the most extreme
• 33:18
  Speaker 15: forces in Australia and around the world, and they will
• 33:21
  Speaker 15: view that as a validation and a vindication of their efforts,
• 33:24
  Speaker 15: and they're going to escalate them. It's been shown to
• 33:26
  Speaker 15: them that if you take over our streets, if you
• 33:28
  Speaker 15: target the Jewish community, if you carry out acts of
• 33:32
  Speaker 15: mass horror as we saw in October seven, you will
• 33:34
  Speaker 15: receive political outcomes that you're seeking. That is the entirely
• 33:38
  Speaker 15: wrong message to send and it's made our country in
• 33:40
  Speaker 15: the world a more dangerous place.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Alex, appreciate that. Thanks ever, Alex
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Ripchin there from the Executive Council of Australian Jury. Still
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: to come, Kristen Tate, it's going to join us from
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the US to discuss Donald Trump's warning to.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: The City of Chicago.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Just on these revelations about what Iran has been doing
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: in Australia, these anti Semitic attacks. No country in the
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: world has better intelligence on Iran than the Israelis. It's
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: a matter of life and death for the Israelis, as
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: we saw with the Israelis even be able to.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Take out Hamas leaders in Tehran.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I just wonder whether Israeli intelligence helped Australia out at
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: all in finding out about these attacks, or whether it
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: will in the future. We may never know, but ponder
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: how important the Israeli intelligent intelligence alliance is for US
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: with matters such as this. Now, after sending the National
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Guard into Washington, d C. To assist with law and order,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the US President Donald Trump is floating the idea of
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: doing the same thing in Barack Obama's hometown of Chicago.
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: Have a look, as.
• 34:52
  Speaker 16: You all know, Chicago's are killing fields right now and
• 34:56
  Speaker 16: they don't acknowledge it. And they said, we don't need them. Freedom. Freedom.
• 35:00
  Speaker 16: He's a dictator. He's a dictator. A lot of people
• 35:02
  Speaker 16: are saying, maybe we like a dictator. I don't like
• 35:05
  Speaker 16: a dictator. I'm not a dictator. I'm a man with
• 35:08
  Speaker 16: great common sense and as smart person. And when I
• 35:12
  Speaker 16: see what's happening to our cities and then you send
• 35:15
  Speaker 16: in troops, instead of being praised the same, you're trying
• 35:19
  Speaker 16: to take over the Republic.
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: Uh, these people are sick.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sure.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: The Democrats always Mike get about Donald Trump. I suppose
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump does too. But the issue here is law
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: and order. And I asked our US analyst Christen tight
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: whether the Chicago move could really happen.
• 35:36
  Speaker 17: I sure hope it is. Look this embracing we are
• 35:40
  Speaker 17: seeing by so many Americans right now to Trump's federal
• 35:43
  Speaker 17: takeover of these cities or potential federal takeovers, is a
• 35:46
  Speaker 17: response to persistent public disorder. American cities have become an embarrassment, Chris,
• 35:53
  Speaker 17: and it's one of the reasons families in particular are
• 35:56
  Speaker 17: emptying out of these big cities that are dangerous, like Chicago.
• 35:59
  Speaker 17: They don't want to live there anymore.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, Chicago the fourth or fifth biggest city
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: in the US. It's in Illinois.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: He was what the Democrat gav of Illinois had decided.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: We're very pleased about the progress that we're making.
• 36:11
  Speaker 16: I know that I live rent free in the President's head,
• 36:15
  Speaker 16: and I wish he would spend.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Some time in Chicago so that you could see what
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a lovely city we have. Governor car callab what do
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: you do.
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: If the National Guard is activated, he comes here.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: It seems extraordinary Christian, it seems in denial. Everybody knows
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: that Chicago is a lovely city. They also know that
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: if you get a wife from the seife.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Pods, it's very dangerous. The statistics bear that out. Of course.
• 36:39
  Speaker 17: In twenty thirteen, the city recorded six hundred and seventeen homicides.
• 36:44
  Speaker 17: These cities are such great, shining symbols of American greatness,
• 36:49
  Speaker 17: and we are letting them be destroyed. We need strong
• 36:52
  Speaker 17: leadership in these places, and if the local leaders can't
• 36:54
  Speaker 17: figure it out, we're going to need someone like Trump
• 36:57
  Speaker 17: to go in there and fix their mass.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Kay, let's talk it about patriotism.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: The President wants new laws to prosecute people for burning
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the American flag.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: He's what he's got to say.
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: You burn a flag, you get one year in jail.
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: You don't get ten years, you don't get one month.
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: You get one year in jail, and it goes on
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: your record.
• 37:15
  Speaker 16: And you will see flag burning stapping immediately.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: And have a listen to the Gavner of Minnesota. Of course,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the block who is running to be vice president. Listen
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: to what he's got to say.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: Think of how easy it would be to be a
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: damn Republican. Oh what should I wear today? This stupid
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: freaking red hat. What should I say today? I don't know.
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: Just make sure it's cruel. Who do we listen to
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: that guy? Oh, the felon in the White House? Yeah,
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: listen to him and that will be fine. Now he's
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: talking about burning flags. He's gonna have flag burning or whatever.
• 37:44
  Speaker 18: Because he knows there's a hell of a lot of
• 37:45
  Speaker 18: flags with his picture on it that are going to
• 37:47
  Speaker 18: get burned.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Kristen, But I get it, do they?
• 37:52
  Speaker 17: They really don't. It seems that Tim Moultz has mastered
• 37:55
  Speaker 17: the fine art of speaking liberal buzzword. I think he
• 37:58
  Speaker 17: spent too much time around Calm Harris because they truly
• 38:01
  Speaker 17: don't get it. I am all for this idea of
• 38:04
  Speaker 17: Trump's burning the American flag. It's a blatant assault on
• 38:09
  Speaker 17: what our nation stands for. That flag represents the bloodshed
• 38:12
  Speaker 17: by generations of brave men and women who fought to
• 38:16
  Speaker 17: preserve our freedoms and our way of life, and to
• 38:19
  Speaker 17: burn it is to just spit on their legacy. I
• 38:21
  Speaker 17: am the product, Chris of public education in this country.
• 38:25
  Speaker 17: I also went to a four year private university, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 17: I can tell you all through my education, I and
• 38:31
  Speaker 17: these students with me were indoctrinated to despise this country.
• 38:34
  Speaker 17: It's disgusting what's going on. And that's why you have
• 38:37
  Speaker 17: a generation of young Americans now who don't appreciate what
• 38:41
  Speaker 17: we have in this country, who encourage this kind of thing,
• 38:45
  Speaker 17: and these hoodlums in the street and burning the flag.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: It's got to end.
• 38:48
  Speaker 17: So I love that Trump is taking a stand for this.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I also love that Tim Walls is still about cooling
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: the Republicans stupid.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: It's got the deplorable sense about it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: In that spirit, let's show people a reminder of the
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: democratic alternative.
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: So I've become friends with school shooters.
• 39:07
  Speaker 19: I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
• 39:09
  Speaker 19: what has been.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: You know that stuff is weird.
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: They come across weird. Well, it's true, these guys are
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: just weird.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: But we're not afraid of weird people.
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: We're a little bit creeped out, but we're not afraid.
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  Speaker 19: There is great significance to the passage of time in
• 39:22
  Speaker 19: terms of what we need to do to see the
• 39:25
  Speaker 19: moment in time in which we exist and are present.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, Brake Kamala Harrison, Tim Walls, the anti stupid
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: people in politics, give me.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: They are the opposite. They are the opposite.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Let's quickly get onto Donald Trump and international affairs. He's
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: got a bit testy when talking about Vladimir put and
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: have a look.
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  Speaker 16: Every conversation I have with him is a good conversation.
• 39:52
  Speaker 16: And then unfortunately Obama is loaded up into Kieva someplace,
• 39:56
  Speaker 16: and then I get very angry about it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: I think we're going to get the word.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Done this to Yeah, frustration with Vladimir Putin there, and
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: also no word yet on when Vladimir Putin is going
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: to have his long heralded summit with the Ukrainian President
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Vladimir Zelensky.
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: Have a look, why do.
• 40:15
  Speaker 16: You think President Putin is so reluctant to meet with
• 40:18
  Speaker 16: President Zelenski.
• 40:19
  Speaker 13: Because he doesn't like him.
• 40:21
  Speaker 16: He doesn't like you don't they don't like. I have
• 40:23
  Speaker 16: people I don't like. I don't like to meet with him.
• 40:26
  Speaker 16: Sometimes they do like to meet with people I don't like.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: They don't like.
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: No, they don't like each other.
• 40:32
  Speaker 16: Really.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fascinating insights there, Christian. But the pressure's on, isn't it.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, Trump's got to deliver this summit. He promised it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: He's going to try and make it happen.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: And if if.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Putin keeps stalling, then he's going to have to get
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: tough with Russia, tougher with Russia.
• 40:48
  Speaker 17: You're right, Trump has finally met his match in terms
• 40:52
  Speaker 17: of ego, Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. They both have
• 40:56
  Speaker 17: extremely big egos, and unfortunately, Putin, in this equation with Zelenski,
• 41:00
  Speaker 17: holds almost all of the cards. I mean, Zelenski is
• 41:03
  Speaker 17: almost irrelevant here. It's all about Putin and Trump. And
• 41:08
  Speaker 17: Trump has tried the tactic of trying to be friendlier
• 41:12
  Speaker 17: with Putin, you know, keeping the lines of communication open,
• 41:15
  Speaker 17: and it's worked a little bit, I guess in terms
• 41:18
  Speaker 17: of getting Putin to the table. But yes, this has
• 41:22
  Speaker 17: turned out to be a much more significant and difficult
• 41:25
  Speaker 17: problem to solve than Trump thought on the campaign trail,
• 41:29
  Speaker 17: and now it makes him look.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: A little bit weak.
• 41:33
  Speaker 17: I have to admit that he hasn't solved this problem
• 41:36
  Speaker 17: as fast as he as he promised he could, so
• 41:39
  Speaker 17: he needs to try some different tactics here.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: He sure does, sure does. He's got a crack down
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: on Russia and money talks. That might be the first step.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us again, Christin. We'll catch you next week.
• 41:50
  Speaker 17: Thank you, Chris.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fascinating stuff, don't forget.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: At the top of the ah, we'll be bringing you
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: that press conference from the Victorian Chaef Police Commissioner that's
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: on the latest of this shocking police shooting. Two police
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: officers shot dead, one wounded. The gunman still at lars.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: But we'll take a break now and coming up after
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the break, Susio Brian and Stephen Sena Timpe will join me.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: We'll discuss the coalition's spat now they have a net zero.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: This got to our Tuesday panel with Susio O'Brien, whose
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: News Corps National Education editor.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: She joins us from Melbourne and.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Radio two Double See Breakfast host in the nation's capital,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Stephen Sena Tiempo.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Thanks for both joining us on such a big news day.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: We'll be having the Victorian Police Commissioner alive on air
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: at six o'clock as he addresses the media about this
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: ongoing situation in Victoria.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Two police officers tragically dead.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: At the moment, Suso, I just want to go back
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: into politics for a moment though, and the federal.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Coalition arguing now about net zero, Susan Lee saying, let's
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: wait and have this review.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: We're working at all through methodically, Others saying, now let's
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: take a position now and scrap net zero. Now, which
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: do you think is the most sensible approach?
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: Well, I mean they certainly need to do something on
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: this issue, and look at the last election result and
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: it's just so damaging for the Libs to have like
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: the far right flank of the party be the loud
• 43:18
  Speaker 9: voices on this and all it does with them calling
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: for you abolishment of any kind of targets at all.
• 43:24
  Speaker 9: It just fuels this idea that the Libs think that
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: climate change isn't real and most people within the right
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: of the party don't believe that. But you know, it's
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: a massive mess and a huge distraction for Susan Lee
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: because the thing is the party is leaking like a
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: sieve and you know these things, there's nothing methodical about
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: this kind of debate.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what Dante, and he's the front bench who
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: has to sort this out. Here's what he had to
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: say today on Sky.
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: You've said that you were supportive. Are you still supportive.
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: Well that zero.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: We're working through a process at the moment.
• 43:59
  Speaker 18: But I've said quite clearly on the record on a
• 44:01
  Speaker 18: number of times that I support net zero by twenty fifty.
• 44:05
  Speaker 12: Can you keep the party together, the coalition together through
• 44:08
  Speaker 12: this process?
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Well, look my aim, I don't envy your job.
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: No, thanks, thanks, Karent.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Look I've always had tough jobs in politics. Yeah, there
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: you go, Steven, what do you reckon? They should do well?
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: They need to have been in net zero today.
• 44:23
  Speaker 18: But I think Susie's comment highlights exactly what the problem
• 44:26
  Speaker 18: the Liberal Party's got is. She says, the far right
• 44:28
  Speaker 18: flank of the Liberal Party is running. There is no
• 44:30
  Speaker 18: far right flank of the Liberal Party. Let's be honest
• 44:32
  Speaker 18: about that. But that's the narrative that's out there. And
• 44:35
  Speaker 18: we have the Prime Minister come out the other day
• 44:36
  Speaker 18: and say, if you don't believe in net zero, you
• 44:39
  Speaker 18: don't believe in climate change. Well, I know you combatd
• 44:42
  Speaker 18: that on your program. I editorialized about it. Caroline Deruso
• 44:45
  Speaker 18: has written about it on sky news dot com dot
• 44:47
  Speaker 18: a you which coalition member has come out and said
• 44:49
  Speaker 18: that is absolute rubbish.
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because we don't believe.
• 44:51
  Speaker 18: In net zero, this unattainable goal that you have set,
• 44:55
  Speaker 18: and even your experts say you can't achieve it. It
• 44:57
  Speaker 18: doesn't mean we don't believe in climate change, but nobody
• 45:00
  Speaker 18: is out there saying that.
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: And now you've got the Nats out there.
• 45:02
  Speaker 18: Saying we are going to take nuclear to the election
• 45:05
  Speaker 18: because that was the deal we did with the Liberals.
• 45:07
  Speaker 18: But the Liberals are going to take another year to
• 45:08
  Speaker 18: determine whether or not they're going to live up to
• 45:10
  Speaker 18: the deal. I mean, it's just they need to stand
• 45:12
  Speaker 18: for something, and if you look at their performance in
• 45:14
  Speaker 18: the first two weeks of Parliament and again today and yesterday,
• 45:18
  Speaker 18: they're just a directionless rabble. What they need to do
• 45:21
  Speaker 18: is change leaders and actually stand for something and move
• 45:23
  Speaker 18: in one direction.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Look, I couldn't disagree with what you've said, Stephen, because.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: They're so clear. No one's making the argument. Susie.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: You you go with this line, which is reflecting the
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: elbow line and which is the line of a lot
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: of the media and what the label will throw at
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: them that you know, you just climate deniers.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: You don't want to do anything.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: But because no one's pushing back any alternative argument, they
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: don't push back against the stupidity from labor pretending that
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: net zero can be achieved in the first place, pretending
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: that renewables are pushing prices down when we all know
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: they're going up, and also pretending that what we do
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: in Australia is going to somehow change the climate. Yet
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: they get away with that day in, day out because
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: the coalition is not making the argument.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: They're not making the argument and they're not supporting their leader.
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: That's a backbench rabble. I mean, it is, like I
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: said before, it is a massive distraction for Susan Lee.
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: I mean, I'm sure that she would just want this
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: off the table because they're not agreeing with each other
• 46:21
  Speaker 9: and they're not supporting each other, and it just makes
• 46:24
  Speaker 9: her look like a week leader over an issue that
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: is not at the forefront of the voter's minds at
• 46:30
  Speaker 9: this point in time, because they want they want movement
• 46:34
  Speaker 9: on cost of living, not on this issue, which you
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: know the party's already said they're going to take another
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: year to make a decision.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Get a If you look at you, if you don't
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: know all you need to know about energy and climate now,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: then you shouldn't be in politics.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: So of course there's going to be more information in
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the future, but you should be right across it now.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I just want to go to a couple of other
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: issues before we run out of time. A Victorian business
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: leader has been saying that this work from home culture
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: is really undermining profits and economic development. This comes at
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: the same time that Anthony are but Easy's spooking this
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: right to disconnect stuff. I mean, Stephen, for a government
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: that wants to boost productivity, we've got everybody working from
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: home and switching off the phone.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: That's the opposite of productivity.
• 47:20
  Speaker 18: Well, we know this is a government left run by
• 47:23
  Speaker 18: its extreme left faction and by the ACTU and the
• 47:26
  Speaker 18: union movement, and that's the problem because they have a
• 47:29
  Speaker 18: they're diametrically opposed to anything that represents anything like productivity.
• 47:33
  Speaker 18: But I think we've got to be careful not to
• 47:34
  Speaker 18: just blame work from home for everything.
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 47:37
  Speaker 18: I know Reese, the CEO of Reese, has come out
• 47:39
  Speaker 18: and said that that's one of the large drivers for
• 47:41
  Speaker 18: why they're having real problems at the moment. But it's
• 47:44
  Speaker 18: not the only thing that is going to destroy a
• 47:46
  Speaker 18: business that size.
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: Now it's small businesses.
• 47:48
  Speaker 18: It will kill and particularly there's right to right to
• 47:50
  Speaker 18: disconnect rubbish that the PM goes on with every Friday,
• 47:53
  Speaker 18: puts a TikTok video up about it. But we've got
• 47:56
  Speaker 18: to be careful not to know to acknowledge that there
• 47:58
  Speaker 18: are other factors in the me that are affecting business,
• 48:01
  Speaker 18: like energy prices for starters.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the fact of course that working from home
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: in the right circumstances can boost productivity.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: But we'll have to leave it there.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us, Steven, said a Champo
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: and Susio O Brian, we'll catch up with you next week.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: I just want to share some of your feedback from
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: what I had to say last night about the crisis
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: facing this country, particularly when it comes to these pro
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Palatinian protests and the shocking messages we've seen pushed about
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: the place. It plays into today's main story too.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Luke says he's a shame to be an Australian under
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Alberanezi in the current government.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: It's bloody disgusting. I stand with Israel. Another viewer says
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: ignorance is bliss until it isn't.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Keep this stuff out of Australia, and Jay says what
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: has happened to Australia. Thank God for the few sane
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: and brave people still willing to speak the truth.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: And Leicester says.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Fed up doesn't come close to describing how I feel
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: about these people and their enablers. Yeah, that's the point,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: as I said, and I've shown you again these protesters
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: are calling for interfata. That is, they are calling for
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: a terrorist uprising against Israel again.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: And they're singing from the river to the sea, that is,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: they're chanting for the elimination of Israel.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: That is not peaceful protest against the sort of hatred
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: and division that Iran wants to sew. Let's go to
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Steve Price now Phillim for Peter Quailin. Don't forget that
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: police commissioner coming up live.