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Green Beret Warning: What’s Happening in Minneapolis Looks Like an Insurgency · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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  Speaker 1: There's a reason nearly forty million people have read the
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  Speaker 1: warning from a Green Beret. He says in Minneapolis. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a protest anymore. This is what it is. Not
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  Speaker 1: only is in this grassroots, this is not even a protest.
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  Speaker 1: This is an insurgency. Explain that to me.
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  Speaker 2: So, first off, you have to understand that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Green Berets actually conduct insurgent warfare or unconventional warfare if
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  Speaker 2: you will, And we do the exact same thing but overseas,
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  Speaker 2: and I've taught it. I was an instructor that taught
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  Speaker 2: it for two years to other warrant officers. So it's
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  Speaker 2: the ability to recognize something. If you're a parent. I
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  Speaker 2: know you're a parent, and you've ever heard your child
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  Speaker 2: why for the first time you look right at him
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  Speaker 2: and you know that they're lying? Why because you used
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  Speaker 2: to lie when you were a kid. It's that same
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  Speaker 2: feeling when you see something like that or here's something
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  Speaker 2: like that and I know exactly what that is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about teaching insurgency. What is it? What
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  Speaker 1: does that entail? Because again, it's got to come off
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  Speaker 1: like it's grassroots. It's got to come out like come
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  Speaker 1: off like it's like it's organic. I'm going to give
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  Speaker 1: you some suggestions about what it's happening here in Military City, USA,
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  Speaker 1: in San Antonio where I'm based, because you got this
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  Speaker 1: guy Joaquin Castro, who's US representative, who's doing exactly what
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about. I want to get into that a
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  Speaker 1: little while. But if you were to teach me insurgency,
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  Speaker 1: what is that.
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  Speaker 2: Doctrinally? It's a part of our unconventional warfare? Uh, it
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  Speaker 2: would actually be.
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  Speaker 3: It's not.
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  Speaker 2: We have like a bunch of different things that we
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  Speaker 2: do in special warfare. Unconventional warfare is one of them.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a means of creating or destabilizing an area
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  Speaker 2: using the minimum force necessary in key areas to create
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  Speaker 2: an opening for things to happen. I actually explained this
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  Speaker 2: to one of my older sisters just recently today. And
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  Speaker 2: you're creating a space for follow on operations or efforts
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  Speaker 2: if you will.
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  Speaker 1: It is Eric Schwallam. Go and follow him at Sehwalm
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  Speaker 1: five one three to two over on x an incredible
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  Speaker 1: following out. Have you gained a bunch of followers because
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  Speaker 1: of that post? I saw you had about sixty thousand yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're gonna probably probably blow up.
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  Speaker 3: It blew up.
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  Speaker 2: I went to bed on Sunday night, I had twenty
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  Speaker 2: four hundred followers.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. The following morning, I got.
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  Speaker 2: A message from one of my old Intel sergeants saying, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you might want to get on X and take a
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  Speaker 2: look at what's going on. Then I went online and
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  Speaker 2: I saw what was happening, and it really blew up
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  Speaker 2: like I did. The past forty eight seventy two hours
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  Speaker 2: have been really eye opening, awakening, and I've been able
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  Speaker 2: to speak to some really incredible people.
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  Speaker 1: Well, well, people have been dying to know what's really
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  Speaker 1: going on. When we watch Minneapolis from AFAR and you're
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  Speaker 1: hearing polling that fifty eight percent think that ice is
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  Speaker 1: too aggressive, You're hearing walls were at war with the
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  Speaker 1: federal government. You hear the mayor saying get the f
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  Speaker 1: out of Minneapolis. You hear the police chiefs saying, if
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  Speaker 1: you see somebody in uniform picking somebody up, there might
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  Speaker 1: be kidnapping them called nine one one. Are they all
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  Speaker 1: part of the insurgency?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So here's the thing I can't. I can't speak to
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  Speaker 2: what they're thinking, what they're doing. All I know is
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  Speaker 2: what I see physically on the ground. And we have
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  Speaker 2: to thank some really great people out there for showing
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  Speaker 2: stuff out there. Cam Higbee and Nick Shirley. Out there
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  Speaker 2: are the guys on the ground. They're the ones that
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  Speaker 2: are providing the information about what was going on with
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  Speaker 2: the fraud, what was going on with the signal chats.
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  Speaker 2: So we give our credit to the eyes and ears
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  Speaker 2: that are out there. And I saw what they were doing.
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  Speaker 2: And so when I'm going to be upfront about you,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to keep faith with my fellow with my
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  Speaker 2: fellow Americans. See the officers and everybody that are out
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  Speaker 2: there that are.
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  Speaker 3: Doing the job. And so what I'm seeing as.
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  Speaker 2: Far as like some of the pushback against the police officers,
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately I was born in the late sixties. Some of
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  Speaker 2: my family members served in Vietnam. It's very very similar
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  Speaker 2: to what we saw in Vietnam with the spitting on
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  Speaker 2: the soldiers, disgracing the soldiers, calling them names when they
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  Speaker 2: came back from Vietnam. But all they were doing was
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  Speaker 2: supporting an American policy. So these officers, the ICE, the CBP,
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  Speaker 2: and everybody out there, they're supporting domestic policy. The laws
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  Speaker 2: were created by our Congress, probably well before like even
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  Speaker 2: Trump took office in twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: These laws were on the books.
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  Speaker 2: They're enforcing, they're enforcing what our Congress actually put in.
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  Speaker 2: So support to them, just the way you like we
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  Speaker 2: said would never happen again. With the Vietnam soldiers, We're
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  Speaker 2: going to I'm going to support them. They're just doing
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  Speaker 2: what America voted to do, what our policy makers created,
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  Speaker 2: and they're just carrying out. So the efforts to do
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  Speaker 2: that to go against them, That's where I sit there
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  Speaker 2: and say something like a third person has entered the game.
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  Speaker 2: We got both Democrats and Republicans. My family is a
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  Speaker 2: mix of both of them. And I said, I can
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  Speaker 2: see it feels like a third party is as out
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  Speaker 2: there and talking to somebody. And I see on the
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  Speaker 2: from what I'm seeing on the ground, I see myself.
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  Speaker 2: I see somebody out there talking to them, giving them advice,
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  Speaker 2: giving them my ideas, giving them the playbook, instructing them
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  Speaker 2: where to go. And it's it's a level of sophistication
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  Speaker 2: that it's through the roof as far as like uncommissional
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  Speaker 2: warfare goes, I as I have total respect for what
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  Speaker 2: I'm seeing on the ground as far as if it
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  Speaker 2: was if it was my playbook and I was running
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  Speaker 2: it that way, It's going really really well.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, it is Eric Schwallm again. It's s e hw
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  Speaker 1: A LM five one three two over on X. His
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  Speaker 1: ex profile is blowing up because this post that he
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  Speaker 1: made is absolutely eye opening. So let's talk about some specifics.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about this guy Alex pretty The
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  Speaker 1: reason I want to talk about him is because we
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  Speaker 1: have been told, I guess by the insurgency that he's
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  Speaker 1: a VA nurse and a really nice guy who really
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  Speaker 1: loved to bike and loved his family and just loves
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  Speaker 1: the community and happened to be trying to save a
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  Speaker 1: woman from the grasp of mean Gestapo like ICE agents
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  Speaker 1: that day. But then we find a piece of video
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  Speaker 1: from eleven days earlier, and he's a guy that did
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  Speaker 1: what you just said. He was spitting on an ICE officer.
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  Speaker 1: We see that as the ICE agents closing the door,
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  Speaker 1: they still try to drive away, he kicks the car.
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  Speaker 1: They still try to drive away. He kicks it again
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  Speaker 1: and breaks the tailout assembly. They get out put him
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  Speaker 1: to the ground, allegedly breaking a rib. This guy was
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  Speaker 1: part of what I think you're saying was the insurgency,
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  Speaker 1: But the sales job is he's the regular thirty seven
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  Speaker 1: year old Minnesota of Veterans affair nurse who absolutely just
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  Speaker 1: wants to take care of little kittens. But it turns
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  Speaker 1: out he wasn't that guy. We now see who he was.
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  Speaker 1: Is he part of this because allegedly he's in the
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  Speaker 1: signal chats too, and it is the explanation about who
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  Speaker 1: he is by the legacy media also part of the
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  Speaker 1: cover up.
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  Speaker 2: He is what we would consider your basic foot soldier,
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  Speaker 2: somebody who's a volunteer, somebody who's an active participant on
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  Speaker 2: the ground. These are these are from an unconventional warfare standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: these are your volunteers. And and it's going to sound
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  Speaker 2: horrible to say, but they're almost a tool that you're
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  Speaker 2: using out there. There are people out there. Whether he
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  Speaker 2: was getting paid or not. I don't know what.
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  Speaker 3: His idea, what his ideal ideology was. I I couldn't
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  Speaker 3: tell you. I'm not inside his head.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what's happened in his life or what
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  Speaker 2: brought him to be in that particular place in time.
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  Speaker 2: The thing is, is like with with the unconventional warfare.
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  Speaker 3: You need acts.
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  Speaker 2: Out there, what you can can use to you to
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  Speaker 2: your best effort, you can make an argument for who
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  Speaker 2: he is, what you you're You're not going to any
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  Speaker 2: time you have like some sort of situation like that,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to try to play it to your side,
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  Speaker 2: whether you're whether you're playing on the side of the
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  Speaker 2: actual government that's in power right now or the people
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  Speaker 2: who are trying to destabilize the government power right now.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's a strong message that you can make either way.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest thing that I'm going to say about him
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  Speaker 2: having a gun in that particular location is there's a responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: I have the authority to carry a concealed weapon, but
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  Speaker 2: I have there's understanding that I have about doing It's
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  Speaker 2: the same thing for like drinking alcohol. If I drink alcohol,
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  Speaker 2: it's my responsibility not to get behind a wheel of
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  Speaker 2: a car and go driving. If I do that, then
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  Speaker 2: I'm responsible for what happens. It's my responsibility if I'm
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  Speaker 2: allowed to if I have under two A to carry
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  Speaker 2: a weapon.
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  Speaker 3: If I carry a.
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  Speaker 2: Two WA weapon into a protest and get into a
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  Speaker 2: physical disagreement with an officer, I'm responsible for doing that,
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  Speaker 2: just the same as I get drunking, get behind the wheel.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great point. I'm also a two A guy
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  Speaker 1: I carry all the time. I would never approach somebody,
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  Speaker 1: a law enforcement officer and say, let's let's fight. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try to get this
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  Speaker 1: woman away from you while I've got my gun on me.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. So as we as we
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  Speaker 1: watch that unfold and we watch the narrative, and it's
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  Speaker 1: it's unraveling about this guy Alex pretty what if? What
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  Speaker 1: if we find out and there are allegations here. Now
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that she was, but the
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  Speaker 1: allegations are pretty strong that possibly the lieutenant governor was
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  Speaker 1: one of the administrators on this signal chat Again, does
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  Speaker 1: that add to the government being involved in the in
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  Speaker 1: this insurgency?
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  Speaker 2: If the information does, it does come through, and that
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  Speaker 2: is that's something that uh, You're going to need discipline
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  Speaker 2: information to make that case against her. It's got to
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  Speaker 2: be something that objectively everybody can look at and go, Okay, yeah, she's.
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  Speaker 3: Part of it.
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  Speaker 2: My from my experience, my uh overseas or and also
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  Speaker 2: and in the training that we do is that we
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  Speaker 2: want to solicit government involvement. It's it's a necessary top
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  Speaker 2: cover to any sort of an insurgency is to create
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  Speaker 2: some sort of alternate government, what would we would call
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  Speaker 2: a shadow government? Uh, within the structure? Is she part
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  Speaker 2: of it? I have no clue. I'm not out. I
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  Speaker 2: don't have the facts.
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  Speaker 1: Well, well, let's let's throw some some things that we
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  Speaker 1: know to be true. We know that Wall said he's
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  Speaker 1: at war with the federal government. We know that he
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  Speaker 1: has told people go out there and take your phones
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  Speaker 1: out and make sure you document everything. We know that
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  Speaker 1: Peggy Flann again the lieutenant governor, has said that we
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  Speaker 1: have to put your body on the line. We have
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  Speaker 1: video of her saying to want to be protesters, go
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  Speaker 1: out there, take your phone and put your body on
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  Speaker 1: the line. We've got Jacob Fry saying the ridiculous things
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  Speaker 1: he said about get the f out of Minneapolis. And
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  Speaker 1: then we've got a police chief, another a law enforcement
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  Speaker 1: authority saying call nine to one one on these agents
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  Speaker 1: that we know are coming here. I mean, that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of a weird coincidence. If they're all just saying it
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  Speaker 1: on their own, it seems it seems colluded to me.
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  Speaker 2: Eric, No, that's that's the kind of rhetoric that we
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  Speaker 2: would you know, we would expect to see, you know, individually.
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  Speaker 3: It could be just bad decisions.
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  Speaker 2: There could be a push that we do on them,
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  Speaker 2: like they could be there could I can give them
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of reasons how they could be making these
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  Speaker 2: statements with you, like they could be receiving outside pressure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if somebody in their family has been
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  Speaker 2: threatened and they're being told to make these statements. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to give them an out for all of it.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing about it is that is very very
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  Speaker 2: dangerous reddair rhetoric to put out there, especially as we
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  Speaker 2: talk about those foot soldiers and stuff, because when you
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  Speaker 2: have your what we call like your religious zealous out there,
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  Speaker 2: people who take things very literally that are going to
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  Speaker 2: go out there and do things, they're not paid there,
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  Speaker 2: may not even be part of the overall program. They
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  Speaker 2: just show up and do their own thing. So that
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  Speaker 2: when you have that type of rhetoric, and when you
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  Speaker 2: have people out there who you don't necessarily have any
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  Speaker 2: sort of controls over, they can create a ton of
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  Speaker 2: problems for you. So it's It's a very dangerous thing
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  Speaker 2: to say those things because you're there's there's always that
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  Speaker 2: one person out there that may take it out too far.
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  Speaker 1: It is Eric Schwam. Go and follow him at s
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  Speaker 1: E hw A l M five one three two on X.
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  Speaker 1: He's a retired Green Beret. Let me let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you this, what is the goal of an insurgency? Is
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  Speaker 1: it always the same? Is it always different? An insurgency
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  Speaker 1: wants what.
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  Speaker 2: UH that we we've been in among the intel people
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  Speaker 2: that are on X. We're having several discussions about what
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  Speaker 2: the overall intent and goal of this. But you could
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  Speaker 2: have multiple parties out there with their different intents and
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  Speaker 2: different goals. We saw this in Afghanistan. We saw this
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  Speaker 2: UH in Iraq. If you just watched twelve soldiers or
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  Speaker 2: twelve strong out of Afghanistan, you could see that there
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  Speaker 2: were two different warlords that had two different ideas of
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  Speaker 2: what they wanted to do post Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 3: And even the same thing we saw in.
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  Speaker 2: Iraq, you could have like there was a cleric in
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  Speaker 2: Iraq back in two thousand and three. Plus you also
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  Speaker 2: had the former Saddam regime and they both had different
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  Speaker 2: ideas of what they wanted to do post Iraq.
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  Speaker 3: Either way, you're.
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  Speaker 2: Dealing with both of them, and what they want is
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  Speaker 2: up to them. But the problem is the same. They're
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  Speaker 2: creating space for a future goal which you may not know,
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  Speaker 2: but you've still got to deal with them while they're
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  Speaker 2: trying as they're trying to get that goal. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what I was talking about, is that net if it's
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  Speaker 2: at a level of a network, which I believe it
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  Speaker 2: to be. I believe there's a hierarchy out there. Who's
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  Speaker 2: in it, who's not in it. You have to deal
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  Speaker 2: with it organized as an or like an organization, to
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  Speaker 2: defeat an organization. CVP and ICE is really really good.
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  Speaker 2: They have a specific mission that they're out there doing.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're doing the domestic laws that they're going enforcing
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  Speaker 2: the domestic laws which they're supposed to be doing. But
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  Speaker 2: they're not designed to deal with crowd control. They're not
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  Speaker 2: designed to deal with protests. That's where your local police
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  Speaker 2: come in. When you're doing the information collection against the
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  Speaker 2: sigate or against the signal chats, you need somebody in
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  Speaker 2: there who can get in there. When you're going after
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  Speaker 2: the fraud, you need a fraud team. When you're going
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  Speaker 2: after the leadership, you need somebody who's who's actually doing it,
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  Speaker 2: and that's got to be You can't have separate efforts
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  Speaker 2: going on out there, going after each one of these
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  Speaker 2: things that are uncoordinated when they're the actual thing that's
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  Speaker 2: happening out there is coordinated. And this is what we
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  Speaker 2: saw in Iraq initially from two thousand and three to
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and six, was this uncoordinated effort to deal
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  Speaker 2: with the insurgencies that we were seeing out there. And
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  Speaker 2: once we got around to two thousand and six and
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  Speaker 2: somebody finally committed to the word insurgency, and we turned
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  Speaker 2: the entire thing into a pyramid of people going after
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  Speaker 2: the entire insurgency. That's where we started to make things happen.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what they need up there. They need a headquarters,
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  Speaker 2: they need funding, they need authorities to operate as a
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  Speaker 2: unit as an entire discipline, using all those organizations who
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  Speaker 2: very much like to operate independently, but they need to
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  Speaker 2: coordinate work together.
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  Speaker 1: Eric Shwallam, we appreciate the time of the access, so
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  Speaker 1: let me ask you about some of the things that
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  Speaker 1: we've seen not only going on there, but going on elsewhere.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, let me throw this out there and
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  Speaker 1: maybe you can help me understand how you can so
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  Speaker 1: easily change a perspective. Let me give you the perspective
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  Speaker 1: I get pulled over for speeding. Can you imagine two
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  Speaker 1: hundred people showing up in vehicles, blowing whistles and screaming
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  Speaker 1: and yelling and spitting on the cop or pulling me
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  Speaker 1: over for speeding. That would be ridiculous in the United
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  Speaker 1: States of America, nobody would be okay with that. But
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  Speaker 1: here we've got law enforcement officers from Immigration and Customs
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  Speaker 1: and they're just simply enforcing the law passed by Congress
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  Speaker 1: and signed by a president back in the day, and
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  Speaker 1: the same thing is happening. Can you imagine going up
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  Speaker 1: to any random cop doing his job and spitting and
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  Speaker 1: screaming and whistling and kicking and surrounding and all of that.
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  Speaker 1: How did they make it okay that when we see
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  Speaker 1: them do it to Ice, that's now acceptable because Ice
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  Speaker 1: is the Nazis or something. But if you were to
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  Speaker 1: do this to a local cop, that would be ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: How did they make people believe that this is okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's where we talk about the network and their ability
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  Speaker 2: to create narratives. If you saw there's a twenty page
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  Speaker 2: pamphlet that they created that they put out there with
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  Speaker 2: specific talking points with actions how to work the signal chat,
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  Speaker 2: which is just monumental again with like recognizes like and
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  Speaker 2: that's a that's a fantastic product that they produced and
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  Speaker 2: there to get people to go that way as just
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  Speaker 2: a serious it's a series of small compromises that moves
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  Speaker 2: people from one step to the next step to the
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  Speaker 2: next step. And we've seen it the to have that
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  Speaker 2: happen in the United States, Like I was very I'm
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: very very familiar with walking into a store or coffee
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: shop or something overseas and paying very much attention to
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: the cashiers, the people that are around there, seeing if
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: they're using their phone, seeing if they're talking about me,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: keeping an eye outside looking for, you know, potential aggressors
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: like special Forces. When we were overseas, there was a
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: price on our head multiple times. So I could be
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: in any any country overseas and if somebody wanted.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: To, like you, I could be in guitar, I could
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: be Enjordan, I could.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Be anywhere, and it could just all suddenly happen around me,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: that's something I grew used to and so for to
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: see that develop here in the United States, where you're
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: reading stories of Even last night, there was a TS
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: what I was said to be a TSA couple that
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: went out to dinner and all of a sudden, everybody
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: started performing around around them. They were accosted. There's a
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: they got video going from the restaurant to their car.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: So you have to consider that somebody in that store
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: like it's it's happened to another four gentlemen who were
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: having a business meeting the cashier as somebody made a
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: phone call into the chat and suggested that these people
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: are there. This is this is a reality for Special
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Forces people overseas. Now it's a reality for uh here
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: in the United States. And that is a really disturbing point.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: This is something we never wanted when we were What
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: we actually went overseas to stop was the presence of
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: what we were seeing over there occurring here in the
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: United States. I can't tell you how much from an American,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: from a veteran's point of view, how much it upsets
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: me to see the things that we said, we told
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: each other we were never going to let that happen
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: in the United States. We went over there to stop
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: it from happening in the United States, and here it is.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: It's right here, happening in real time. The things that
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I saw overseas are now here in the United States
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: and happening.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Eric Schwallam, go to Sechwa LM five one, three to
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: two over on x go see that massively viral post
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: that he made and see why I have him on today,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: and thank you for making the time. I know a
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: lot of people want to talk to you. Let me
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: set the scene for what's happening here in San Antonio.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: And again, we're national, We're a nationwide hundred and seventy stations,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: but we're based in San Antonio Military City, USA. You've
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: got a US representative named Jaqui in Castro. He just
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: out only he likes the country. He is somebody who
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: wants illegal aliens to just stay here. He's somebody who
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: always looks through the lens of being an Hispanic guy
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: himself when that's not what normal Hispanics do. And the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: reason I bring him up is this, he decides to
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: go online and say that ICE arrested and detained a
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: five year old child. We know that story is not true.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: This kid, Liam Kanejo Ramos, his father abandoned him. His
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: father was targeted by Ice. ICE was gonna arrest the dad.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: The dad left him in cold temperatures of Minnesota by himself.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Ice protected the kid, tried to give him to his mother,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: who turned them down twice. So that's the real story.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: He is now at a detention center with his father
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: in Dilly, Texas. The reason I'm giving the backstory is
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Castro has decided to say the five year old was arrested.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Not true. The five year old was detained, not true.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: The five year old and his father now are at
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: this Dilly, Texas ICE facility, the detainment center, and Castro
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and Jasmin Crockett decide we're gonna go there and we're
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: going to demand that the father and the son be released.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, the father is to be deported back to Ecuador.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: They should be released. This is unfair, it's a human
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: it's disgusting. Trump is a Nazi. The reason I bring
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: this up it's not just Crockett and Castro who go
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Now you've got busses of people coming in and the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: local media is covering hundreds of people turned out. No,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: hundreds of people were busted in to make it look
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: like what Castro's saying and what Crockater's saying is true. Eric,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you you can trust me. It's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: verifiably true what I just told you about this five
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: year old. He wasn't a wrested or detainer or anything like that.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Is this an attempt to start an insurgency here? Because
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: later you had the former mayor, you've got the county executive.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: They're all doing a big rally in a big meeting
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: with hundreds of people just organically showed up to show
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: how horrible Ice is and how horrible Trump is. Is
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: this the beginning of an insurgency?
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: If I would like.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Say, again, looking at it objectively, looking at it from
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: my experience, I would say it has all the signs
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and signatures of yes and insurgency, or or at least
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: a low level insurgency until it involves real you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: the level of weapons. It's not high order insurgency. You're
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: still in the foemenching, unrest and other stages. So what
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: you're describing, what the what the information is is is
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: If we were to lay it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Up against what how an insurgency works. Things that it's doing.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: We would say these are the things like on the
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: on the outer perimeter of the insurgency area where you're
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: creating you're creating UH and destabilizing the environment around it
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: to make it work, to make it a potential success. So,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you know, narrative counter counter narrative. It's all going to
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: come down to who's got the better case, who's got
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the information.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: UH. I won't dispute that. You know, what's coming out
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: from the.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: The UH, the officers and the stuff from the c
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: VP and ICE that her down there. You know, again,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: support the officers and and have keep faith with them.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: So it's he said, she said at this.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Point, and they it's and you again, I'm going to
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: go with the government officials who are not not just
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: passively going with the government officials like I'm just a
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: bootleg or or something like that. But again, you have
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: to you keep faith with it with the people who
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: are on the ground. As for the elected leaders that
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: are out there, they're behaving h They're they're representing their
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: constituents out there and behaving exactly the way their constituents
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: expect them to to behave whether and I watched like
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: this with Congress and stuff like that, everybody that's elected
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: up there that I can't I'm not a politician. I
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: don't understand politician games. Just the same thing, uh as
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: if I was to try to become a radio announcer
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: or if I'm trying to become a doctor and stuff.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: When I go into that environment, they have their own world,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: they have their own way of doing things. So how
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the games that they're playing, it's it's old, it's all
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: old work to them. This is what every politician does. Uh,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you know, respect the game for what it is, how
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: they're doing it.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And they're gonna and with any with any political official,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: they also have to have that that way too. They
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: can throw anything out there and then step aside. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: and this is it's a it's kind of like an
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: an unfair advantage that you have as a politician when
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: it comes to the First Amendment, is you have the
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: ability to say things and you get like kind of
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: a handwave to sit there and say, okay, you can
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: say that a little bit more than anybody else. If
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I were to do something like that and create a
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: destabilized environment, cause a whole bunch of friction of problem
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: problems or get somebody killed. I'm responsible for what I say,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Whereas every politician that's out there understands that they've got
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: a different category of First Amendment than say, the rest
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: of us.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: And that's not fair. It is again, Eric Schwaalam, go
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to Schwalm fifty one thirty two over on X follow
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: what he's doing. The guy's very smart, and I think
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: that he's uncovered something here that a lot of us
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: weren't thinking about. And I'm glad there's so much virality
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: on that post because there are a lot of people going,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? And then you explained
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: what the hell you think is going on? So let
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: me let me throw this out there. How do you
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: put down an insurgency? Before I do that, let me
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: ask you this, how important is the complicity of the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: media in helping these people. We know that the media
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: in Minneapolis Saint Paul is far left. They are absolutely
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: gonna gonna carry water for Walls in his entire team
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: and for Fry. We also know that the local media
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: here in San Antonio has been covering this story incorrectly,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: about this visit to Billy and about who was there
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: why they were there and what happened to this five
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: year old kid? So how important is that messaging from
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: an established media.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: That the messaging is always important in any form of insurgency.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: One of the one of the things we used to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: say overseas is whoever gets the message out first wins, right.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: So that's very it's it's a it's a a an
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: act actual thing.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: In the Middle East, one of the things that we
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: always try to do before we conducted any operations was
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: have a message of why, where, everything else that we
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: were doing out there, so we get the race against
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the narrative and uh, the billa, the having the legacy
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: media out there, and they have the eye, they have
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the ears of a lot of people. There's a lot
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: of people people who don't have the ability to understand
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: things like X, which I use. I use like as
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: an as a analogue intel collection where I just go
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: through it and just paste through it and I pick
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: up nuggets of information. I'm a I'm a trained intel collector,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: information and intel analysis analyst, so I can go through
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: it and pick what the information that's out there, who's actual, credible, viable,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: who has the veracity of the reporting? They consistently report well.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: So the legacy media people have. It's a business, you know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: and they're successful because they're catering to the people who
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: want to hear from it. And until everybody decides that
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the legacy media isn't providing credible information, they're going to
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: continue to do what they do, and they're going to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: continue to continue to pander to the people who are
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: paying their bills. They're going to provide that information. So
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: it's up to it's up to America to get to
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: turn on or become a way, if you will, to
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the possibility that other information other than the legacy media exists,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: and to actively seek it out.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: You cannot be a passive.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: It's been a while now, and I will say a
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: lot of America has been asleep at the wheel and
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: just letting the government go and have faith and trust
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: in them that they have their best interests in mind.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And we can sit there and honestly say that I don't.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: You know, they don't necessarily have our best interests in mind.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: And they've been doing it because we've been asleep, And
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: as an American it's our fault. I take responsibility as
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: a voter for being asleep. For letting things go, for
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: not speaking out, for not becoming active and one of
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: the things of our constitution it absolutely requires us to
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: be active participants in our government. My dad, who passed
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: away in twenty twenty, taught me very very well. He
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: was a Democrat Union carpenter out of Rochester, New York.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Incredible man, was in World War Two and he taught
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: me to really love my that it is my responsibility
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: to as an American, to own a gun, to question
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: my government, to speak freely, all the things that you're
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: supposed to do, and when we haven't been doing it,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: that's we we open the door for what's happened.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: It is Eric schwall M again Schwami five one three
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: two over on X it's s E. Hw Alm go
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: follow him now. Last question. I appreciate all the time
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and the access and that amazing. Just the way you
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: spelled it out on X it made me say, wow,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: we have to talk to this guy. How do you
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: put down an insurgency? We know that it's happening. It
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: looks like all the signs are there in Minneapolis. We
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: don't want some bloody warfare in the streets. How do
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you stop it? Just beat them at messaging uncover reveal
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: that this really is an infrastructure and this isn't just
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: organic in grassroots.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Like I said, it takes an It takes an organization
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: to put down an organization. So to really to undo it, uh,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: you need to go after to the entire organization and
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: pick it apart and then let the message and the
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: reality of what's of what's happening on the ground work
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: its way out through providing truth, providing evidence of that truth,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: presenting that we have good people out there as officers,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: that they are just like everybody else. They put their
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: clothes out in the morning, they kiss their kids goodbye.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: They're not bad people. They're just implementing domestic policy the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: way it was voted. And if once we get those
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: messages out there and we shut down the counter messaging,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: not through censorship or anything, but through evidence, reality and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: really showing people the truth of the matter. Truth is
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: everything here. But here's one reality you need to keep
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: in mind. It is the eighty ten ten principle. Ten
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: percent of the people are gonna love you every time.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Ten percent of the people are gonna hate you no
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: matter what you do.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: It's the other eighty.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Percent that you're actually trying to sway one way or
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: the other and right, and that's the flight is that
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: eighty percent. And you're never gonna get a total hundred percent.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: You're always, like I said, you're always going to have
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that ten percent that hate you. You could give them
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: a million dollars and they're gonna complain that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: You gave it to them. And Nichols.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: So it comes down to truth and showing people the reality,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: loving your country, teaching, waking people up to the false
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: realities that they're being presented, and maybe and like and
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: by people and maybe other organizations or other entities outside
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the United States who actually want a failed United States
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: or a weak United States because.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: It benefits them.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: And I don't I don't hold it against the other
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: countries for for trying a week in the United States.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: That's their job.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: We have a job when we go out overseas as well.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Every country is in it for themselves. So hey, it's happening.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: You've got to be honest with yourself, expect that there's
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: another organization out there trying to undermine you always.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And counteract it with the truth is so important because
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that circles us back to where we started today there's
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: new video of Alex Preddy kick and spitting and breaking
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: tail lights and being actively aggressive and actually being a criminal.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: We watching him, we're watching him commit crimes against law enforcement.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: That changes the narrative. Suddenly this holier than now and
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the angel that he was, and he was taking too
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: soon when he was a hero for protecting a woman
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: that goes out the window. And now I would assume
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that the insurgency has to switch. Okay, he's not our
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: guy anymore. Oh crap, that new video came out. Let's
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: go do something else. I said last question, I mean
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: it this time. Do you Is this insurgency coming to
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: an end? Because people are waking up to what they're
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: seeing and what they're hearing and what they're feeling, they
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: see that there's another side on the other side. It's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: probably true.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I would expect to don't take that off the table,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: that the insurgency's going to end. Okay, So it's going
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: to be it's going to be a constant. There's always
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: going to be pressure. Again, like I said just said previously,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: there there's other interested parties that want a failed or
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: weak United States, and they're going to be actively participating.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: They're going to be sending people like me into the
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: United States to who are we're going to be your cadre,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: who are going to be your leadership, But they're going
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: to be advisors. They're going to sit there and try
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: to foeman unrest. They're going to be doing all those
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: things out there, and only through the truth are you
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: going to come out At least you can bring things
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: down to a below threshold that you're looking to achieve,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: a lower threshold.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I love it. It's a retired US Army CW four
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: green Beret, Eric Schwalm. Go and follow him Schwalm five
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: one three two over on X. Amazing to talk with you.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Let's do it again, my friend, such incredible knowledge. Thank
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you for doing it and my pleasure absolutely all right,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: my man, that's it for unshaking and unafraid with Joe
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: PAGs this time. I know they would have dropped very
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: soon