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Twitter shareholders vote to approve Elon Musk’s bid to buy the company + Talks Risk, Renewable Resources, Tesla and Truth · Elon Musk Podcast

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Hi everybody and welcome back to the show.
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This just in breaking news, Twitter shareholders voted to
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approve Elon musk's forty four billion dollar bid to buy the
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company and take it private. So this vote comes is musk seeks
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to get rid of the deal. He wants to get rid of the
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Twitter deal and it cast doubt right now on Twitter
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self-reported percentage of bod accounts and alleging that the
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company was not As forthcoming in their offerings as it should
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have been to calculate how much money Elon was going to buy
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Twitter for now, Twitter says that they only have about five
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percent of monetizable daily, active users that are spam or
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fake and also said that provided musk with plenty of information
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required to show that this is actually true.
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But Elon is always pushing back against them and saying, hey,
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this Doesn't seem to be like the case.
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You know, if you've seen Elon musk's tweets you know, that
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basically every first person quote person that comments
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underneath his post, it's about and they're trying to scam you
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out of Bitcoin. So as you can tell from him
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alone he's a very small subset of Twitter but he's also a very
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powerful user. So Twitter sued musk for
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allegedly breaching the agreement and the cases is going
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through the Delaware Court of Chancery with a trial, which
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will begin in October. So Elon says, hey you don't have
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enough users here. You have a lot of bots, a lot of
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fake users and you lied to me. I'm not going to pay that much
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money for this, but the judge for this case, recently allowed
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musk to revise his counterclaim against Twitter to include
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allegations made by a former Twitter security chief, Who
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filed a whistle-blower Camp complaint, which claims security
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filings by the company were wrong.
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Peter's, APCO is the name of this whistleblower and they've
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testified before a senate panel earlier on Tuesday.
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So the Twitter shareholders are all in for musk but Twitter is
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still suing musk. So must can buy Twitter and musk
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doesn't want to buy Twitter because there's not enough
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people on Twitter to buy. That's worth the money.
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So it's a very convoluted Situation, but it looks like the
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shareholders and everybody that's involved in Twitter,
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other than Twitter, the company, you know, actually Twitter.
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The company is cool with it, but I'm sorry.
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Elon Musk is not cool with it. So I misspoke there Ilan wants
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to know if there's a lot of bots will find out in court in
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October. The v/line Elan can turn around
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right now and say, you know what, the sounds like a good
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idea. I take it all back.
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And let's buy Twitter. Let's get this over with forty
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four billion dollars. I don't know, it seems like a
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very complex situation but we'll see what happens in the future
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and here's another thing that's going on with the Elan.
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He said that he's going to get Tesla's self-driving technology
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ready by year-end in hopes and could be released In a wide
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variety in the United States and possibly in Europe, depending on
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regulatory approval. So Elon Musk spoke at an energy
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conference in Norway and he said that his intention was currently
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focused on Starship at that point and self-driving, Tesla
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cars. So, Starship, is it a point
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where they're testing the booster and the ship?
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Almost every day? There are spinning up the
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engines that are static firing. There is a static fire actually
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two days ago. And the static fire of ship 24
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caused a fire for tens of Acres 50 or 60 Acres.
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I think it was 68 Acres of the protected Wetlands around star.
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Base in Texas, there were on fire and according to the Peña,
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which was issued by the FAA. And they work together with
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SpaceX SpaceX kind of told the FAA.
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Hey, we know these things are going to happen.
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We're going to try to mitigate these circumstances.
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So what happened was large fire, fire departments were brought
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down to spacex's Starbase and everything was under control and
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about five hours, but it was a pretty decent sized Blaze.
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And when they got through with all the mitigation processes
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that night, it seemed like there was very little Damage Done to
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the the critters that are nearby, the crabs, the frogs,
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Etc. They've only, they only found a
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few crabs that were dead, and they found a few frogs, I
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believe. But there.
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Also pieces of the launch pad or I'm sorry.
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The test pad. The concrete was blown about 300
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feet away from the pad, has a hardened concrete.
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So, the blast from the six Raptor engines three, vacuum
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engines and three regular engines, they were too much for
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this concrete, in the concrete, blew out like 300 feet.
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One of the piece of concrete landed in a dumpster caused, a
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dumpster fire a literal dumpster fire and it was kind of crazy.
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See, so that's being done down at Starbase Elon Musk said by
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the end of this year, let's get full self-driving to happen, so
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he's working on Tesla. He says, the tech to technology.
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I'm focused on trying to ideally get done before the end of the
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year are getting our Starship into orbit and then having Tesla
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cars to be able to do self driving and he says have
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self-driving in wide release, at least in the US and potentially
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in Europe depending on regulatory approval.
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Now, do we still need gas and, and oil at this point?
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We sure do. You know, the whole system is
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built on these two Technologies oil and gas.
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We must continue to extract oil and gas in order to sustain
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civilization, civilization. That's what musk said.
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Let's let's listen to this. He says, realistically, I think
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we need to use oil and gas in the short term because otherwise
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civilization will crumble, you must told the reporters And ask.
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So they also asked if Norway should continue to drill for oil
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and gas musk said, I think some additional exploration is
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warranted at this time. So possibly more oil and gas,
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Elon Elon knows the real situation here.
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You know, you can't just sit back and expect your 4% of the
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Auto industry, which is Tesla. It's around 4 percent, 45
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percent, to kind of take over everything.
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It doesn't happen that fast. Unfortunately any One knows
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this, you know, is that, you know, we can't get off gasps.
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We can't get off oil. These are the things that make
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daily life happen at coal to, we have coal power plants.
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And some of these power plants, actually power the stations and
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the, the houses that have supercharges of them.
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So, if you have a charger in your house, your house might be
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connected to the grid. And the grid might be powered by
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Kohler gas. So he understands that that's a
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thing that needs to be happening.
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Elon says, one of the biggest challenges the world has ever
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faced as the transition to sustainable energy and a
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sustainable economy, that will take some decades to complete.
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So he knows it's going to take some time, you can't just stop
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everything. If you stopped everything, it
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would be absolute turmoil. And he said about offshore wind
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power generation of the North Sea.
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He says that it's good and he said stationary battery packs,
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he said it could Provide a strong sustainable energy source
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in the winter. So if you think about it, wind
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power that powers the grid while there's wind.
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And then there's battery packs for the backups.
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That seems like a pretty good win-win situation for any sort
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of economy. Any anywhere where people live
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wind is very, very clean. You may have to worry about
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birds and other other animals. But at that point, you're not
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polluting the air, but then you store things in the battery
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packs. Those battery packs last for a
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long time. So replace the battery pack
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every once in a while. You still have those wind
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turbines in the North Sea and he says it could provide a strong
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sustainable energy source in the winter.
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So I'm going to play that whole interview for Right after this
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and I want you to listen to that because it's pretty cool.
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And here's the interview with Elon Elon Musk.
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Please do join me. Let's play.
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Welcome here. Let me start.
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Tell us how you think about trust.
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Well, I believe in trust and transparency and the pursuit of
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Truth in general. But I mean first, let me just
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And I just wanted to to thank the leaders and the people of
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Norway for their long-standing support of electric vehicles and
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sustainable energy. And I just want you know the
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people of nowhere, you know that hey you really made a
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difference. And you know so I went I thank
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you. Well, thank you for joining us
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but I'm still going to come back to the question.
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Which tell me tell me, how do you think about trust?
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Well I think there's that that's what that that's really quite a
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philosophical question. It is and one could wax on at
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length about that, I guess. You know.
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It's over Twitter. I was told that the one topic
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I'm not talk about so I'm going to avoid it.
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Well, if they both start with its he I suppose what I mean.
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Do you think that with respect to information generally?
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People want to know the information that they're
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receiving is accurate? That it is a representative of
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the full picture and they want to be able to believe what they
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read. And not feel that it's overly
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biased or at least understand the nature of the bias.
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So I think one of the key things to trust is transparency and
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people to really know you know if there's like a social media
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company or something to understand what the algorithm
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is. So to open source the algorithms
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of people can look at it and critique it and it's not a black
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box and then if there are any modifications done by people at
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that social media company that they're clear.
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Again, transparent. And so it's not hidden and And I
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believe, you know, I believe in the the sort of free flow of
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ideas and and just generally erring on the side of free
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speech within the boundaries of the law.
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The boundaries of the law is great place to start, is to
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thank you. Can't go sort of beyond that
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without being arrested. I think.
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Let's move on shall we? You've been a great disruptor of
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Technology technological models in energy and space where is the
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unexplored area for disruption? Well, you know if I have the
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word disruption and I don't aim to disrupt for the sake of
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disrupting, you know it's more like there's thinking about what
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sort of actions what set of actions are most likely to lead
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to a better future. And so You know, in order for
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one of the things obviously in order to for Humanity to have a
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compelling future of our civilization is that we must
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have a clear path to a sustainable energy future.
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That's one of the things that I think everyone I think would
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agree with now. I actually am not someone who
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would tend to sort of demon, I, as oil and gas to be clear.
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This is necessary right now, horses for civilization could
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not function. So I do think we actually need.
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And actually, at this time, I think we actually need Need more
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oil and gas, not less, but but simultaneously moving as fast as
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we can. To assist a noble energy
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economy, I thought there was the Prime Minister were just
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spot-on, you know? It's and I'm glad to hear that.
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There's a large effort for ocean wind is that that's that that's
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a massive untapped potential. I would say go even more.
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What the Prime Minister said, frankly, it's like, that's a,
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you know, I mean, if you did 100 by 100 array of 10 megawatt
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systems, you have 100 gigawatts capability.
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So and then you do need to combine that with stationary
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storage battery packs to buffer the energy.
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Because sometimes the wind blows and sometimes it doesn't blow.
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What is it? Blows hard.
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And so so you need you need to buffer it with with battery
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packs. Stationary battery packs and
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Tesla and other companies are also making that so that the
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sort of the three pillars of a sustainable energy future our
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sustainable energy generation which is hydro geothermal wind
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solar. I'm also pro-nuclear.
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I've been I think it's we should really keep going with the
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nuclear plants. I know this may be an unpopular
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view in some quarters, but I think if you have a well
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designed to nuclear power plant, you should not shut it down.
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It's especially Right now. So but I try to say what I think
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is, you know, scientifically cogent, even if it is not
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popular so and it is so it was of the pillars of sustainable
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energy generation but then must also store the energy because
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many of the the two main sources of of sustainable energy, wind
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and solar are intimate and wind doesn't always blow the sun.
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Doesn't always shine. So you must buy for the He and
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in stationary battery packs and then the third element obviously
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is electric vehicles. So electric cars, trucks
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aircraft boats with the ironic exception of rockets with but I
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but we do have a plan for sustainably producing the rocket
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propellant which is actually almost 80% of liquid oxygen.
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So liquid oxygen you can get from Asia from the atmosphere
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and then Our we're going with methane fuel, which is 20% of
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the propellant but that you can make also sustainably long-term
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from CO2 and water H2O, which produces CH4 and O2.
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So that's the sort of sustainable long-term path for
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Rocket, propellant, generation, and that's how it would have to
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be done on Mars, for example, so not electrifying quite yet.
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We are it would you actually have sustainable power
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generation for some of our propellant generation already?
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But it's it's a small percentage now that will be a big
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percentage in the future. So what do you, you know, you've
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got That's a the energy industry here, but that's probably an
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exaggeration. You've got a pretty pretty
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significant. Set of the energy industry here.
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If you were to look ahead, 5 10, 15 years.
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What is the disruption going to look like in the energy
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industry? Well, I think we'll see
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tremendous change over the next 5, 10 and 15 years.
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I say like your celebrate by 2030.
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I would say probably half of all new cars made will be electric
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2030 half of all new cars. My guess.
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Yeah. By 2035, it might be 80 percent
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or something like that. I think it could be even higher
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than those numbers but the the car industry is moving rapidly
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towards electric and you know what?
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One country after another and one state after another is all
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making zero emission mandates. California recently passed a
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zero-emission mandate for new cars, sold in California.
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I think 2035 can only be zero emission.
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So UK is As well. Yeah, exactly.
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So it's clearly the people of the Earth.
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Yeah. You'll both have decided.
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This is the way to go and so I think this is so we'll see quite
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a tremendous change in that regard and if you look at the
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streets on or where you actually see an advanced version of that
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because Noah has it from the highest, we've gone to majority
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electric vehicles of new cars, sold out, which is, which is
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great again. Thank you.
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So yeah, so it's pretty cool. So if I pick up on that idea.
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So the future the biggest change.
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You see if the energy industry is electrification?
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Electric car vehicles. Light transport, maybe heavy
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transport. What does that mean about Supply
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chains? So if you kind of all that
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backwards, what is the supply chain?
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Give me. What are you worried about?
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If we're going to meet that Rice?
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Yeah. So the interesting thing is that
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said like what? Is the what are the limiting
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factors governing the rate at which the world can transition
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to sustainable energy and I think it's the rate at which one
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can grow battery production, okay, so then if you say what
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are the constituents in the battery in that they mined
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batteries, it's evolves, get lithium, you've got a cathode
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which is the the main cathode materials are going to be a
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metal. And that's nickel manganese and
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iron. And on the anode side, it's
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primarily carbon graphite and sort of in the center
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sequester's sequestering, a little bit of carbon in the
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battery and and it with some silicon added for energy,
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density on the anode side, and then there's the electrolyte and
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whatnot. So it's and the main limitation
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is actually not that these metals are exceptionally rare.
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But that there's Tremendous amount of processing equipment
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to take the, or, and turn it into battery grade materials.
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Because the the battery grade entered in cathode have to be
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extremely pure in order for the battery to last for a long time.
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And so, it's sort of processing of those elements.
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And I'm sort of writing this sort of Master Plan part 3,
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which is what are the steps needed to scale, sustainable
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energy and it gained what are the limiting factors?
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How can we potentially accelerate these?
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So, hopefully finish that in a month or two.
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So do you want to give us a preview?
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What, you know, what are the what are the?
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You know, what are the gating functions?
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If you will that we need to get over.
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What are the what are the big steps?
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Well, the materials that I mentioned are really essential.
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It's generation, it's processing.
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Yes. There's actually there's not a
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raw material constraints. So, there's actually a
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tremendous amount of lithium lithium is almost everywhere.
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It's one of the most common elements on Earth, so as iron
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and so is carbon and that on the iron use usually combined
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phosphorus its iron phosphate, so that'll probably be the
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biggest chemistry that's used. So it's not so much the raw
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materials as it is converting raw materials into the highly
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purified form that can be used in batteries as so, that's a
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tremendous amount of of processing needs to happen for
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that. Out of that, really at the sort
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of scale that is currently, you know, comparable to the world
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oil and gas industry. So it's a the scale is just
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tremendous. So this is all happening and
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it's happening fast. It's just a question of how can
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we what we do to potentially accelerate that and making go
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even faster? This is all happening.
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It's just a question of when and you're going to give us the
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answer to that, what can we do to accelerate it to make it
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happen even faster? If we're going to be 50% new
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electric vehicle, All sold in. What eight years?
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You said. I think I think that's actually
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where we're trending. Okay.
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Even if we even if we just keep doing the things we're currently
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doing, okay. Yeah.
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So I thought it was pretty damn good.
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You don't see a limiting function at the moment.
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No, I don't see the many functions is really just how
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many years will it take us an audit actions?
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We can, what actions can we take to have it be faster and it's
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going to be increasing the rate at which we can convert the or
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into battery grade materials? That will set the rate at which
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we can weld electric vehicles and stationary battery packs to
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capture solar and wind. Okay.
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So it's this old, you know, basically what I'm saying is is
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this is a an optimistic and positive message.
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I'm not suggesting at all complacency but just saying that
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things are moving in a good direction and but obviously if
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we can make them go even faster, that's better.
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And a lot of this happens in China right at the moment today.
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So yes, yes, so you said last year that you thought trust and
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China would improve prove post covid.
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So do you think that's happened? Do you see China as an
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investment opportunity today? Well, Tesla is actually
25:37
investing in production in China.
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So we have a large Factory in Shanghai and we are continuing
25:44
to expand outward and invest in that factory.
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But we're also investing in Europe with our Factory just
25:50
outside of Berlin and in the US with, on your factory just
25:54
outside of Austin. So and we hope to announce a
25:58
location for another gigafactory perhaps later this year, so
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we're going as fast as we can. And I've always said that the I
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would say, like when you look at Tesla, the fundamental good
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Tesla does, I think so measured by profit, but rather, by how
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many years will Tesla have accelerated, the transition to
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sustainable energy. This is how I think when you
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look at the success. Yes, I think we have accelerated
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it to some degree already. You know.
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I think it wasn't for Tesla. The car industry would have
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transitioned two v's much later. So, exponential curve or
26:37
straight line. That is somewhat of it is an
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exponential curve. Yet, you know, you're making me
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use my chemistry, in my maths? Yeah, I haven't done anything.
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Yeah, I see you decades. Most people don't know what an
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exponential curve means, but it's a, I think most people in
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this room and this room. Yes, yes yes, yes.
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I thought so. But a logarithmic curve look.
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Now that's up to mr. Can you do it?
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No, I think I think the the things are improving
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exponentially with respect to sustainable energy, so but even
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go to make you go faster all the better.
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So how do we go from exponential to logarithmic?
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Well, I know I think it will look on you.
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Thought about this, I know you've thought about this.
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Logarithmic is actually fast in the beginning, but slow at the
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end. So I agree.
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We actually what will actually happen is is is a transition
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from is it'll follow as following an s-curve.
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So we have an Exponential increase, then linear.
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And then logarithmic and that's that's basically how any
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transition large industrial transition happens.
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I think I'm going to get off math now because I could get
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into trouble. What's your approach to risk?
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How would you talk about that? I'm back philosophy.
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I'm safer in philosophy. I think, because sort of like,
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you know, just arbitrarily secrecy, I think there's some
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things are risky. But if this, you know, if the
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stakes are important enough, then you take the risk, because,
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And today, the stakes are important enough.
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Yes. I mean the stakes are very
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extremely important. Very fundamental to the Future.
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Yes. Because you take, I'm guessing
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I'm just, you know, I don't know, everybody in this room,
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but my guess is that you take significantly more risk than
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possibly anybody in this room, but certainly more than 95% of
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the people in this room. What, what allows you to take
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those risks? Are you faster?
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You smarter, do you think differently?
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What do you do differently? That allows you to do something
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that most people here smart as they are, can't do. well, I
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think there's probably a lot of people in this room that do take
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a lot of risks, but we got a volunteer, but before you really
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like, no, I want to hear what Ilan has to say about how he
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takes risks. They were literally just try to
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use the scientific method frankly.
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And you know, consider the, you know, what is the importance of
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the outcome and what, what is one risking into in order to
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achieve that outcome? And would like said of the
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outcome is important enough? Even if the probability of
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success is low, when was I think still still do it in my view,
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you know, some things are very important and if to in Have a
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good future. And if we don't do them, well,
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they're in big trouble. And so, and then how much of a
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risk really, is it? Because if we don't take those
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actions, we won't have a good future.
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And I think the riskiest thing would be no action.
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So it's almost as though, it's really not a risk, it's not a
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choice at all. Not really.
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Okay? I think it's wonderful that you
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can change the world because you really can change the world.
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And you have, you have the Ability to do what in many
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cases? Not even governments can do.
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I mean, I as I was doing a little bit of research for this
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panel, one of the data points that I saw as you were able to
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turn on, if you will the internet and Ukraine in just
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four hours. What what kind of responsibility
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do you feel as a corporate leader you have when you have
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that kind of power? How do you think?
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Well, if it was but but longer than four days, but it was, it
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was a but also for four hours about four days, I think, but we
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did what we did, have some Guess that maybe there will be
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something happening in Ukraine and and so we did pre position
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some Stronach terminals there, just in case.
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So that was helpful for the initial part of the invasion and
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then we accelerated delivery of a lot of terminals within a few
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days of the invasion taking place and the Ukrainian
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government tells me, it's been very helpful.
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So no forethought is the answer, perhaps.
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I mean for Thornton and just moving quickly.
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Decisively. Yeah, so I do hope a piece on
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peace can be achieved in Ukraine and Russia which route you know
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if that's You know. Did I do something?
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Some short? Some thought to be should be
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given to you know, what's the end game there.
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And I think the end game will require some compromise on the
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part of both parties. You said that what you're
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solving at? Tesla is an AI problem, not a
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transportation problem and you talk about the next big
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disruption being AI. What can a I do to help combat
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climate change particularly in this period?
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The short-term period, as we're transitioning?
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What Tesla's go from Pro when we started it, as always been to
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accelerate sustainability. So, that is still our primary
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goal by far. We have a secondary goal, which
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is to solve, at least real world intelligence as it applies to
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self driving cars and And then potentially, you know, with with
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humanoid robots. But, you know, it And so, so
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Tessa is in part of AI company and increasingly in AI company,
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but it's still primarily a sustainable energy company.
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I think. A, I what I do, I don't think we
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need AI to solve sustainability, that that is that is happening.
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It might help us accelerate it. but I think we should also be
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cautious about Ai and just make sure that as we develop AI that
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it is You know, doesn't get out of control and and that that the
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AI helps make the future better for Humanity.
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And that's something I know you working quite a lot on.
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I think we should be more worried about AI safety than we
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currently are, especially in the future was, are really going to
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be. And we're seeing a taste of that
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within Ukraine. Very much Drone Wars.
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Know if your drawings are better than their drones, then you
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weren't basically, it's what will happen.
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That's has, has it always been? No that's going to be.
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It hasn't been that but will it was a final question.
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We just got a minute. What keeps you up at night and
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what are you doing about it? Or do you sleep soundly every
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night? Well, there's the, the two main
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technical. I'm going to fundamentally a
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technologist. It's like a kind of important or
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an engineer to. So, you know, sometimes people
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call me like a businessman, I guess I have to do business.
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You have to have a group of people, because I can just do
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this in a garage by myself, but I'm fundamentally, an engineer
34:46
or technologist and so, the two, the two technologies I'm focused
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on trying to ideally, get done before the end of the year are
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getting our Starship to orbit. Which I think is important for
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expanding Consciousness beyond Earth and life beyond Earth.
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And and then having the Tesla cars be able to do self driving.
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So have self-driving in wide release at least in the US and
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and hopefully potentially in Europe depending on regulatory
35:23
approval And and then having the Tesla cars be able to do self
35:13
driving. So have self-driving in wide
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release at least in the US and and hopefully potentially in
35:22
Europe depending on regulatory approval