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John Chell | Former Chief of Department for the NYPD Demands Answers Regarding Released 9/11 Documents · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Talking about 9-11, the story broke yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Mamdani, so happy, found 170,000 documents and nearly 70 boxes,
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  Speaker 2: telling everyone that the air was anything but safe, which
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  Speaker 2: I think we all knew that. Obviously, people have been
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  Speaker 2: getting sick for 24 years, but now it's the cover-up. Mamdani,
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  Speaker 2: Jon Stewart, talking about the cover-up for administrations, Giuliani, Bloomberg,
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  Speaker 2: de Blasio, Adams. gloating about people dying, a tragedy that
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  Speaker 2: was not our fault. Sorry, Mom Donnie, your friends think
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  Speaker 2: it was our fault, like Hassan Piker. And then a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff happened afterwards. You know, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how much of it was a cover-up, how much of
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  Speaker 2: it was not.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But I do know that John Schell was a copper
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  Speaker 2: over 30 years, ended up being Jessica Tisch's chief of department,
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  Speaker 2: and spent many, many months investigating down at Ground Zero
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  Speaker 2: nearly 25 years ago. And he's joining me live from
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  Speaker 2: New York this morning.
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  Speaker 1: John, it's Sid in Dallas, buddy. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Sid, how are you, brother? Dallas, great town. Great town.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm a little dismayed. Apparently I'm polling at about.
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  Speaker 4: 05 %. Maybe 1%. But I figured it out and
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  Speaker 4: I was waiting to come on. If I didn't wear
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  Speaker 4: a red beret... and run.
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  Speaker 5: Around and say, like, a fool, I can get 8%.
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  Speaker 1: You could.
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  Speaker 3: You can get 8%.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm there.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You also have to buddy up to the radical Islam mayor.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to do stupid comedic videos with the mayor
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  Speaker 2: in a circle. You've got to stab people like me
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  Speaker 2: and John in the back that were there for you
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  Speaker 2: for a lot of years. You do all that stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and you may end up with 8%. But on a
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  Speaker 2: serious note, are you still serious about running for mayor?
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  Speaker 3: I'm dead serious.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm fully aware I'm a Hail Mary piss. I'm
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  Speaker 4: a long shot, but I'm going to go for this.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just going to be in that middle ground voice,
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  Speaker 4: just being a Brooklyn kid and speaking the truth on things.
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  Speaker 5: And here's the thing, Sid.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not running for a career. I'm going to be
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  Speaker 3: running to fix this city.
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  Speaker 4: Two different things. So I can actually be honest with people.
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  Speaker 4: And if you like it, you like it. And if
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  Speaker 4: you don't, you don't. And if I lose, I'll go
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  Speaker 4: back to being retired.
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  Speaker 2: Which is not terrible anyway. So, well, you have, like, officially,
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  Speaker 2: have you done something? I don't know, paperwork or something?
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  Speaker 5: I don't even know how this works. A little social media.
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  Speaker 3: The paperwork I'll do at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 4: Next year I'll start kind of moving around the city,
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  Speaker 4: raising some money. Then 2028, it's game on. And we'll
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  Speaker 4: meet up in November somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: And here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Guys like us and all the people running, we want
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  Speaker 4: to fix this place. We all come from the same DNA.
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  Speaker 4: We all come from the same neighborhoods in New York City.
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  Speaker 4: We know what's right and we know what's wrong. We
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  Speaker 4: might not agree on everything, but at least we're man
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  Speaker 4: enough to have a discussion and meet in the middle.
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  Speaker 4: And sometimes we disagree, but that's the way it goes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, are you running, John Schell, because... like Michael Rapoport,
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  Speaker 2: for example, and me when I talk about it, because
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  Speaker 2: I hate the mayor.
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  Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. If it was just an.
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  Speaker 2: Okay mayor, even a bad mayor like de Blasio, I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't even consider running. But I hate this guy so much.
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  Speaker 2: You talk about toxic, the year down by 9-11. He's
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  Speaker 2: so toxic for this city. That's why a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people are motivated to run for this. Is that your motivation?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I denounce socialism. I come from a world where
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  Speaker 3: my parents worked all day.
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  Speaker 5: I went to school.
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  Speaker 3: I was working since 15. Nothing's for free. You have
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  Speaker 3: to show up. You've got to be accountable. You've got
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  Speaker 3: to be punctual.
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  Speaker 4: You've got to work hard. When you work hard, good
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  Speaker 4: things happen. And we're in a time now where nobody
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  Speaker 4: wants to work hard. Everyone wants everything free.
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  Speaker 5: And guess what?
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  Speaker 3: You know what that got us? About $ 22 billion in
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  Speaker 3: a hole in three years. That's what that got us.
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  Speaker 3: According to Mark Levine, don't believe me.
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  Speaker 5: I was horrible at math. I got an 800 on
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  Speaker 5: my SATs.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to Mark Levine.
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  Speaker 5: $ 22 billion.
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  Speaker 3: $ 22 billion.
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  Speaker 5: If it stays the same, then it's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's bad.
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  Speaker 2: This is the former chief of department, John Schell, joining
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  Speaker 2: me right here. And he is very, very serious. He's
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  Speaker 2: going to run for mayor of this state. City coming
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  Speaker 2: up in about three years. I mean, the funny thing
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  Speaker 2: is we talk about Mamdani like he's already served four years.
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  Speaker 2: Hasn't even been one year. It's already a complete nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what is it? Give me the top two
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  Speaker 2: or three things and we'll move to the toxins in
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  Speaker 2: the air. But the top two or three things that
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  Speaker 2: you would want to fix, John Schell, if in fact
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  Speaker 2: you won.
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  Speaker 1: This race right away.
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  Speaker 4: Look, number one, public safety. We need more cops and
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  Speaker 4: public safety. If you believe the.
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  Speaker 3: Quote unquote numbers, there's more than numbers. There's quiet life.
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  Speaker 3: Number two, public housing in the city.
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  Speaker 4: Three hundred twenty five thousand residents in public housing with
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  Speaker 4: 80 billion in capital projects needed.
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  Speaker 5: Why are they living that way? Number three, fiscal accountability.
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  Speaker 5: I just said twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: Billion projected over the next three years. What are we
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  Speaker 3: going to pay for? What can we pay for?
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  Speaker 5: And if people are leaving the city.
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  Speaker 3: And businesses, where is.
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  Speaker 5: That money coming from?
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  Speaker 3: It's coming from your home in Rockaway, Sid.
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  Speaker 4: They're going to tax the hell out of you. So
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  Speaker 4: here's the thing. Just bring the city back to some normalcy.
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  Speaker 3: We are not in normal times.
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  Speaker 5: And then we have a mayor and his socialist party,
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  Speaker 5: if I'm not going to tell you, Sid, despises the Jews.
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  Speaker 5: Let's be real.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, there's no doubt. Yeah, no, he despises... But he
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  Speaker 1: despises Americans, too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he despises everybody, Americans, Italians, Jews. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to make it too much about the Jews because I get...
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  Speaker 2: yelled out all the time that the Jews are whiny
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  Speaker 2: and there's only anti-Semitism because the Jews are always bitching, which,
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  Speaker 2: of course, that's anti-Semitism. But, you know, he hates everybody,
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  Speaker 2: this guy. Let me ask you this. Yesterday was a
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  Speaker 2: big rally outside of City Hall, and, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: had Giovanni Galanti on this show three times.
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  Speaker 1: I know you listen.
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  Speaker 2: He gave me the credit for getting that petition up
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  Speaker 2: over 100,000 signatures, which I appreciate. What are your thoughts
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  Speaker 2: on the mayor showing up on Friday? This idea that
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  Speaker 2: He should be there because he's the mayor.
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  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Is that part of his job? I mean, I know
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  Speaker 2: he has to balance the budget. I know he's got
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  Speaker 2: to keep us safe, right? He wasn't there 25 years
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  Speaker 2: ago like Rudy, where he took part in this thing.
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  Speaker 2: What is it about his position that he has to
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  Speaker 2: be there on Friday? My contention is the overwhelming majority
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  Speaker 2: of the families don't want him there. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: him there. My guess is you don't either. But you
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  Speaker 2: answer me. You want him there?
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  Speaker 5: Well, look, everyone has their own feelings about 9-11. I
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  Speaker 5: would never tell someone how to feel. Okay? Now, to
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  Speaker 5: your point, he is the mayor.
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  Speaker 3: Should he be there? I guess so. I'm torn. But
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  Speaker 3: then I see the other side. And the other side
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  Speaker 3: is this. He brought up his aunt.
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  Speaker 5: We use this as politics, right? Performance.
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  Speaker 3: He brought up that his aunt was scared to go
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  Speaker 3: on the subway. It wasn't his aunt.
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  Speaker 5: It was his father's cousin. He signs executive orders. Why?
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  Speaker 3: Why this week? Why are you doing this?
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  Speaker 4: You handed a pen to a terrorist sympathizer.
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  Speaker 3: Why are you doing this?
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  Speaker 5: You put out this report that does no one, I
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  Speaker 5: listened to you this morning, Sid, that does.
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  Speaker 3: No one any good.
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  Speaker 4: Now it's going to be lawsuits, and for the families
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  Speaker 4: that lost people at 9-11, post 9-11 due to cancer,
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  Speaker 4: how do you think they feel this morning? Why are
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  Speaker 4: you taking away from their week?
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  Speaker 3: To mourn their loved ones.
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  Speaker 5: To come down to the site quietly, listen.
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  Speaker 3: To the violin, and make a mental prayer to your
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  Speaker 3: loved ones. Why? Why would you do this?
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  Speaker 4: It's all politics, and I can't stand it, because for
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  Speaker 4: those of us, like myself, who were down there for months, taking.
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  Speaker 3: Out bodies, smelling death in here, smelling burning metal.
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  Speaker 4: Having to register with the World Trade Center for those
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  Speaker 4: who have cancer.
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  Speaker 3: We don't want to hear this nonsense.
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  Speaker 4: We want to go there Friday, say our piece, and
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  Speaker 4: move on.
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  Speaker 3: Why are we doing this? It bothers me.
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  Speaker 1: No, I feel the same way.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, look, if there is a cover-up,
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  Speaker 2: then exposing cover-ups is usually a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be honest, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the timing isn't great. Again, we're just two days
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  Speaker 2: away from the 25-year commemoration. But if this is about
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  Speaker 2: exposing Republicans like Giuliani and Bloomberg and even Eric Adams,
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  Speaker 2: who by the time he was done, he was a
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  Speaker 2: Republican or Whoever wanted to buy him, I guess, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I know he's your boy, but God, give
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  Speaker 2: me a break. But, yeah, I guess that is the question.
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  Speaker 2: Why is there a victory lap for the mayor yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: What good comes out of this?
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  Speaker 3: Nothing good comes out of this.
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  Speaker 5: We are two days.
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  Speaker 4: Away from the 25th anniversary of the most tragic.
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  Speaker 3: Event in our history. Okay? And you're going to do
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  Speaker 3: this now? You found the box on Monday? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: They found that box.
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  Speaker 4: They had that lined up for months. They had this
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  Speaker 4: teed up like a golf ball, and they hit the
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  Speaker 4: ball yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Why? Politics.
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  Speaker 4: And for the people that weren't down there, that want
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  Speaker 4: to make.
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  Speaker 3: This political, I say shut the front door. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean, Sid? Shut the front door. You made
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  Speaker 3: me nervous.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say shut the F up.
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  Speaker 2: So you're telling me, the former chief of department, the
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  Speaker 2: great John Sher, running for mayor in a couple of years,
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  Speaker 2: that you are sure— that they didn't just find these
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  Speaker 2: boxes in the last day or so. They've had these,
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  Speaker 2: and they couldn't wait to bring up this story right
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  Speaker 2: before the most tragic day in the history of this country.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's play it out, Sid.
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  Speaker 4: You think someone from the staff went down to the
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  Speaker 4: basement and said, hey, I found a box down here.
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  Speaker 3: Guess what it says?
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  Speaker 5: Wow, I read through this whole set.
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  Speaker 3: What, 70,000 pages?
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  Speaker 5: I'm a speed reader. And look what it says. This
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  Speaker 5: is the BS.
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  Speaker 3: Of it all. Why this week?
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  Speaker 4: You know the weather Friday is going to be beautiful
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  Speaker 4: just like it was 25 years ago. You know people
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  Speaker 4: are hurting severely.
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  Speaker 3: This is, you know, 25 years later.
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  Speaker 4: Why are we doing this now? If this doesn't get
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  Speaker 4: you fired up, and you got me fired.
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  Speaker 3: Up this morning when I was listening, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what to tell you. How about this?
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  Speaker 4: For the next two days, let's leave the politics out
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  Speaker 4: of it. Let's think of our friends, our families, the heroism,
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  Speaker 4: all the stories. A thousand people have passed away. Let's
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  Speaker 4: just keep them focused.
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  Speaker 1: But it's hard to.
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  Speaker 2: I hear you, and you're a good soul and a
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  Speaker 2: nice man, John. But I can't leave the politics out
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  Speaker 2: of it because the reason why the World Trade Center...
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  Speaker 2: is no longer there is because.
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  Speaker 3: Of politics, okay?
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  Speaker 2: It's because radical Islam wanted to destroy America. Nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do with Israel, you anti-Semite morons out there. Nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do with Israel or Bibi. It's because radical Islam wants
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  Speaker 2: to destroy America. And when the mayor's buddy says on
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  Speaker 2: a podcast, with the mayor sitting right there, we deserved it,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how you make it nonpolitical. Now, for
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  Speaker 2: the families, you know, it's kind of like this, John.
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  Speaker 2: When they took the hostages after October 7th, okay, I
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  Speaker 2: don't agree with Rebecca Goldberg on anything, or her husband, John, politically,
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  Speaker 2: on anything. They actually spoke at the DNC. But their son, Hersh,
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  Speaker 2: had his arm blown off and was held captive until
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  Speaker 2: Hamas put a bullet in the back of his head.
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  Speaker 1: And I said.
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  Speaker 2: For a year or so, I'm never going to take
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  Speaker 2: the families to task. I disagree politically. They were saying
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  Speaker 2: nice things about Biden when I knew it was all
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  Speaker 2: about Trump. But I'll never take them to task. Same
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  Speaker 2: thing here.
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  Speaker 1: I'll never take the 9-11 families to task.
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  Speaker 2: But to say, let's not make it about politics, is
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  Speaker 2: silly because this whole event happened because of politics.
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  Speaker 4: No, and it's my wish. I know we're not going
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  Speaker 4: to get out of politics. It's my wish. From my
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  Speaker 4: personal opinion, just my wish. I understand what you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: How can you in this day and age?
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  Speaker 3: How can you?
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  Speaker 5: You can't.
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  Speaker 3: But I wish. And the wish is never going to happen.
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  Speaker 5: And it happened because of politics.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Okay?
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  Speaker 4: They wanted us dead that day. They came for us
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  Speaker 4: that day. And we returned the favor. But now we
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  Speaker 4: still mourn 25 years later. And it just bothers me
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  Speaker 4: as a person that was down there.
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  Speaker 3: It bothers me.
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  Speaker 4: I went to a funeral the other day for Inspector
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  Speaker 4: Mark DiPaolo who died of brain cancer down there.
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  Speaker 3: It bothers me. That is my personal opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the families are sacred. They are untouchable. Untouchable.
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  Speaker 5: And the politics of it all, even though.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like it, we can discuss it. No doubt
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 4: But again, why are we signing executive orders? Why are
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  Speaker 4: we handing out pens? Why are we releasing the report
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  Speaker 4: that we found months ago?
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  Speaker 3: Not on Monday. Why? Because you want to make it
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  Speaker 3: about you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you about your former boss, because
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  Speaker 2: you know this, John.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just on-air talk. You know how close I
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  Speaker 1: am with Jessica Tish. I love her. I love her.
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  Speaker 1: But I would have loved to have seen.
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  Speaker 2: Her take that pen and throw it right back at
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  Speaker 2: that attorney a couple of days ago. And she just
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  Speaker 2: kind of went through the motion and handed the pen.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of people that are close to me
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  Speaker 2: were very upset with Jessica.
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  Speaker 1: Now, she was your boss. I know you love her.
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  Speaker 1: But she's not your boss anymore.
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  Speaker 2: What did you think when you saw Jessica Tisch right
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of that circus with the radical Islam
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  Speaker 2: mayor and his al-Qaeda attorney boyfriend doing what they did
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  Speaker 2: a couple days ago?
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  Speaker 4: Like a deer in the headlights. Look at her face
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  Speaker 4: when he handed her that pen. I think she was
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  Speaker 4: completely caught off guard. Would it have been a magical
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  Speaker 4: moment to take that pen and say, I had enough,
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  Speaker 4: threw her on the desk and stormed out of the
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  Speaker 4: blue room?
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  Speaker 3: It would have been magical. What her motives are, what.
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  Speaker 4: She wants to do, where she sees herself six months
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  Speaker 4: from now, I can't answer that. But, yeah, it would
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  Speaker 4: have been a defining moment to say enough is enough.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But when you're caught.
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  Speaker 4: Like that, Sid, sometimes you're so caught that by the
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  Speaker 4: time you pass the pen in this instance, five minutes later,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, damn, I wish I would have done this.
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  Speaker 3: Damn, I wish I would have done that. It's true.
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  Speaker 1: No, you just don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I got to run, but I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 6: this is the perfect time for you. All you have here, honestly... Boblons,
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  Speaker 6: strip joints, steakhouses, tacos, and football. John Schell, you belong
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  Speaker 6: in Dallas.
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  Speaker 3: You want to go to the steakhouse? Yeah. I go
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  Speaker 3: to Dallas a lot. The Town Hearth.
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  Speaker 5: The Town Hearth.
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  Speaker 3: H-E-R-T-H.
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  Speaker 4: I guarantee you go or you'll be calling me tonight
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  Speaker 4: after your second steak.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go tonight right before Trump speaks. How
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  Speaker 1: about that?
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  Speaker 3: Town Hearth.
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  Speaker 1: Town Hearth. Okay, my friend. I love you. Good luck.
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  Speaker 3: Be well.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Stay in touch. There he is, the former chief of department.
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  Speaker 2: My dear friend, he is running for mayor, John Schell.
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  Speaker 2: What the heck is going on here?