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Is Aroha Clothing Cultural Appropriation? · Talking Shed

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That's right. That's right.
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That's right. On today's episode, general
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updates Valentine's Day is popping up.
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Yeah. And if if you know, if you know,
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you know, we started this podcast about a year ago and
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Valentine's Day was about the same time.
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We had some few stories from that.
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That's actually a good point. Yeah.
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And then from there, we might we're gonna go into the Grammys.
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Yes, Yep. And then also the whole
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controversial controversy on the Adoha Adoha clothing brand.
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Clothing brand. Let's just say people aren't
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happy, but we don't know why. Yeah, so we'll go on to that,
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we'll show the video and stuff, see what you guys think.
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But yeah, so was to kick it off, we got we got the Grammys coming
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on. I mean the.
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Valentine's. Valentine's Day coming up.
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See the settings on this bloody camera?
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Took it out of us already. So the the back story I ate last
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year was I bought some Los flowers for my missus and she
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thought they were like grandma flowers and she pretty much
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didn't acknowledge them when when I bought them for her.
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Yeah. So let's just say the
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expectations this year are high. What's your opinion on
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Valentine's Day? What do you think of it?
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Well, I got reminded that Valentine's Day was coming up
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because I seen a video that my missus posted about me.
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Oh, I saw that actually. I didn't even know she did that.
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Yeah. Yeah, on TikTok A.
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Yeah, yeah. So I seen this yesterday, I
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think, and she obviously posted it like fire out.
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When did she post it like on Sunday last week?
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Right. Yeah.
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Here I am filling up the gas and she's taking this video of me,
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which I didn't even know. Yeah.
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And in the caption or something, it was.
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What was it like? Little did he know that he's
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he's yet to ask me to be be his Valentine.
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So. So do the girls expect you every
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single year to ask you to be their Valentine's even though
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we've been dating for five years?
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Bro, it's obvious. Like, well, what?
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OK. Yeah, Why are you going to do
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that? Dude, what do you think?
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Do you think that's that that we should have to or?
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What? I don't think we have to, but my
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partner thinks we have to, yeah. That's what I think as well.
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I honestly, my opinion on Valentine, I hated a like I
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hate, I hate being told how to like love someone properly or
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like do do, do that correctly, you know?
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And to me it's like consumerism. But then like I try to have that
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like idea of like, why are we going to let society tell me?
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But then I'm also thinking, but it's not that big of a deal to
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just buy flowers. Like no, So there's like I,
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there's like these two things, but I don't like how it's like,
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you have to buy me flowers, ask me to be my Valentine and be
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romantic because I personally struggle with that stuff.
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So. Like, and you're not the only
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one. A lot of men do.
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Yeah. And so like, but I don't like
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being told that that's like, if you really loved her, that's how
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you would treat her, that's what you would do.
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I reckon that's BS, you know what I mean?
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It is an expectation. And I'll tell you what, My, my,
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my, my, well, my partner, she goes well.
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She didn't even tell me first and foremost, but throughout the
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last couple of weeks, she's obviously been given well.
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In hindsight I've realized she's been giving me subtle hints and
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I didn't even know and she would just like kind of give me this
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look of disgust. So you have that like as in like
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she wants you to ask. Her Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Did you ask her to be your Valentine?
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I did eventually. Did you do it romantically?
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I did. Yes, bubbly, how did you just a
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secret or? No, no, I I made it as nice as
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what I could have. Rose petals on the bed.
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No, not like that. I literally just asked her.
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I just said, you know, is that us?
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Yeah, that's actually a you remember.
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That age. That's how I asked her out.
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Oh yeah, if. You don't know the back story to
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that. I literally asked my partner
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out. I my my my words.
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Word for word was. So is that us?
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You want to be my? You want to be my girl or.
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That sounds like that sounds like you're like, bro, stop.
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Just like, hurry up. Yeah, we may as well.
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Yeah, Yeah. That's honestly how I was
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thinking about it anyway. It came out a lot better than
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what I thought it did. But going back to the question,
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yes, it was just honestly, it just reminded me of like me
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asking her out of you. Yeah.
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That's what I don't like. It's like, bro, we've been
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through this. Like surely we just know it's
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like we're locked in. And then but the girls always
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have this expectation that if, if he, if he cared, he would or
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whatever. You know that saying that they
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say. So like it's basically saying
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guys get comfortable when they stop buying presents and stop
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complimenting you and that kind of thing.
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And I think obviously that is in a, you should do that like or
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constantly you should do that and you shouldn't.
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So. But I don't like it when you're
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forcing me on Valentine's Day. Yeah, because I, I would rather
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do it on my own accord, you know?
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And it's also kind of, I feel kind of corny doing it, but you
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know. No, 100% because like I said, I
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didn't even know if Valentine's Day was coming up until she I
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seen this video that she posted on 14th day.
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Yeah, 14th. And I was just like, Oh my gosh.
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So it's this time next week. Yeah, it must be OK.
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Yeah. So a week away, lads.
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Yeah. Get your partner something.
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What? What do you reckon is a good
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idea for Valentine's Day like? I was actually going to ask you
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that. I was going to be like, what
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what, what gifts are you going to get your partner?
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Obviously flowers, chocolates, those are my standard go to's.
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And honestly, God damn chocolate is so expensive right now that
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that should almost be, that could be almost the only gift
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she gets. Bro bro $9 for a block of
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chocolate is insane. That is crazy.
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That stuff used to be $4.50 at the supermarket literally 234
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years ago. $9 is crazy and but my, my problem is, bro, my Mrs.
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has so much chocolate. Why do you want more chocolate?
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Whoa, we already got like 5 blocks, Why do we need more?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I would like to get her
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some workout gear or. Hey, that's.
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Something like that. That's something that she could
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use. Like bro, I'm, I'm, I'm sick of
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buying flowers at $100, bro. And they die after five days.
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Like, yeah, it's, it's nice and I get it looks cool and it's
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beautiful and it shows you care and all that.
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But like, who cares, bro? Leave.
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I reckon bro I'd rather get like a a nice painting or vase or.
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Something that's long lasting. Yeah bro, this shit, this dying
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bro literally buying you a dying leaf bro I'm.
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Just like would you? Would you pay just thinking
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about artwork? But would you pay your partner
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to go get a tattoo done for Valentine's Day?
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Damn the pencil on imagine she wanted the lower back one or
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something, no? The tram stand.
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Yeah, the I I would if she wanted like the pins.
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Yeah, depends on what type of the.
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Like your name and like like J plus H and the love heart.
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Would you pay for that or she want?
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It Hell no. Hell no.
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Yeah, Hell no. I.
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Can't get I can't do that stuff eh?
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Like even my tattoos bro. Like I don't have any pictures
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or anything you know about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But I don't, again, I don't feel like I need to.
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Yeah, different story. I think if it was if we have
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kids, which which we will like, I've just that will be a
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different because they're. Forever, like you're not saying
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you break up like you're forever now.
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Like bro, I'm just thinking OK, so obviously you never know what
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can happen. Yeah.
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So yeah, it's, it's just like a 0.00000001% chance, but it's
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like I'm gonna get told off. So yeah, but Valentine's Day to
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your question, yeah, I have to get flowers because yeah, I just
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have to. And maybe like a little
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Lululemon thing or something like that is probably what.
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I'll go for that. That's actually a really
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thoughtful gift, now that I think about it.
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Yeah, what about you? What are you gonna go?
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Yeah, flower standard chocolate because she's just addicted to
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chocolate and just a date. We can just take her out for for
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dinner or Breaky or something. I think her love language is, is
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quality time. She likes that.
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Mama says access service, I think.
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Is it I'm Access service? She likes being the boss, that's
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why, right? She, Yeah, she's got an
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authority problem. I think she's got bro.
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She's got a part of what? Happened this morning when you
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were hanging up clothes. Bro exactly like I can't do
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anything right. So the so she's like OK we're
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going to do washer here. So I'm helping doing the washing
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and cause the cause the line is like up to my nose or something.
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We're hanging it up and I'm kind of bending over to try flick the
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clothes and like I'm trying to help trying to do my best.
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But and I as I'm doing it, I look over there and she just
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gives me this like like look of disgust.
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And I was thinking how could I possibly have done something
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wrong right now? Like literally how could I've
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done? And I was like what?
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And she's like being down or something.
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Why are you touching all the clothes?
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And I was like, but I can't help it.
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I'm just tall ish not even that tall.
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I'm like, but I'm trying. I'm like literally contorting my
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body going like trying to And she's like giving me like bend
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your knees or something. Why are you being difficult?
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You know bro, all we do is try, you know, we, we can only try a
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bro to impress. And that's.
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Not even. A mess then.
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That's not a yeah. But finally, if you are, yeah,
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thinking of any gifts for your your partner, one flowers, 2
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chocolate, three, maybe a date, four.
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And if this is a really good option, Lululemon, get him out
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there. Get him out there.
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Get him out the house. Flat chats for the week.
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So we talked about something that's been going on social
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media this week and it's an Aussie brand called Adoha
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Clothing and they pretty much a bunch of 2 girls I think that
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have a activewear brand called Adoha, obviously based off New
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Zealand. Multi a multi word set that
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means love. And they've pretty much been
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getting ridiculed by Moldis online for having a moldy name.
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So here's the clip. I'll play it.
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Where did the name? Adelhah come from and how do you
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resonate with it? Firstly, it was when I was
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researching the brand. I wanted meaning behind it, so
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the first thing was love and compassion.
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I didn't want to use an Australian name, I wanted to be
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a little bit different. Welcome to cultural
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appropriation. OK, so that's one of the thing.
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I won't go straight into it, but these are these multis are
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pretty much editing all these videos and and talking over it.
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So I guess what do you think about about this whole thing,
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would you say? I I'm actually a fan for a day.
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The fact that it's it's a non multi individual.
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Well, she she's not Maori a. No, she's Australian.
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OK, so she's she's full because. Apparently she goes on to that
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video. So to cut you off the to say she
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has a Maori stepson, I think. OK.
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So yeah, that that that is maybe a.
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Yeah, for me man, like I'm Maori, you know Samoan.
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And in all honesty, bro, like I love the fact that non Maori or
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non Samoans are using words of our culture.
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I'm yeah, I'm all for it to be honest with you, bro.
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Like I, I don't really have a problem with it.
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And, and maybe there's a thing in our, our culture where it's
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almost like you have to ask for permission to be able to use
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that word. But what I don't get, bro.
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And what I don't like is the fact that in my partner bought
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the sub bat flat chats and that was well we use French words.
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Well, we use. All different.
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Different types of words. Yeah, cafes.
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Like cafes, like clothing brands, you know, you know, so
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people are using different cultural words, you know, from
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other other, other nations, other countries.
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And then you know and expect to get away with it.
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But yet when it's our own. It's like, Nah, don't touch
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this. Like you're not allowed to use
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this. Yeah, but what I have a problem
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with bro is because like my opinion is I just want
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multiculture multi language to keep going and to become
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commonly used in New Zealand and all around the world.
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And we're it's not going to grow if people keep having this
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gatekeeping mentality like don't use multi words unless you're
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multi or like they're it's not going to people aren't going to
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like like to use multi, even when I think that makes me a
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little bit nervous to use multi words in as a business or as a
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in the podcast, because I'm like, Oh, I might get backlash
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because, you know, I'm not moldy enough or it's that it's that
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same kind of mentality. And if you want to grow and you
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want it to be used in society and you know, on billboards,
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which I think it should be, you can't be jumping down people for
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doing. She literally she's just trying
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to have a business and she liked the word idle heart.
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If anything, it's celebrating it the the one like like the one
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thing I think against her, which I do agree with is like the
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pronunciation of the word. So in this video, she goes on to
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say like Mary and Araha or whatever.
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However, this is however she says it like that kind of shows
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a lack of effort in research because it's a pretty easy thing
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to research. But still, I think it's better
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than not not using it at all. Like bro, we want we want it to
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be. Well, I personally think that it
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should be something that's everyone's able to use, you know
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what I mean? So I don't like how these lots
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of these moldy people get so like, bro, defensive, so
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defensive, hey. And overly, overly so.
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Yeah, I don't know. I'm, I, I, I just think this is
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a good opportunity for, for our culture to, to get spread
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worldwide, you know, like, yeah, people now know about this
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brand, you know, and to be fair, man, it, I would if I was this,
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this lady and her name is Katie or something like that.
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I think it's Katie or something. And there if I was here, I would
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be jumping on board of all this, this, this marketing at the
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moment. It must be popping off.
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Yeah. So it must be because I'm
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looking on their website right now and all of a sudden I see
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the scene saying Idlehut is not a multi owned company.
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So I don't know if they've just added that in their, they would
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have this backlash, you know what I mean?
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Yeah. So that's interesting.
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Yeah, yeah, which but, you know, she's making it clear that it is
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a multi owned. She's obviously publicly said
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that as well. But yeah, all people, man, like,
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I feel like we've got to cut, cut this, you know, tall poppy
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syndrome. It is.
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Yeah. That's what it is.
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It's like tall poppy. Yeah, that's what.
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I'm not a fan of that. A like, no, we really need to
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get behind people, man. And although she's not moldy
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herself, you know, she, she's spreading, she's spreading our
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word around. Yeah, literally.
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Yeah. And, and it's a beautiful word
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too, that, that I think a lot of people in Australia, New
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Zealand, Pacific Islands, bro, the world just need it.
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You know what I mean? Like without getting too deep.
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So I, I really don't think it's that deep to be honest.
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Bro Yeah, exactly. It's not that deep.
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Yeah bro, it's not that deep. Stop trying to like make it
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something like it's a attack on on us.
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So it's like bro, it's not Yeah. So I I don't like that bro.
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Yeah, but. Because I mean, bro, I'll tell
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you what, if we're going to say that she can't use our words,
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then, well, we might as well just speak Mauli and not speak
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English. Yeah, which we don't want to do.
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Like we like English as well. Right.
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Yeah. Like come on, bro, let's it's,
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it's ridiculous. It's an absolute like.
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Yeah. Two way, one way St.
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Yeah, so, you know, if you're out of clothing, Katie and your
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brand, keep doing what you're doing, man, 'cause man, I'm.
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I'm all for it. I'll.
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Tell you that some merch, actually, I will wear it bro,
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yeah. I don't know if I'll wear it,
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but yeah, I'll leave my partner with it.
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But but yeah, keep doing what you're doing, man.
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Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't stop because of all the
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hate. But just know, even though
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there's a lot of hate, there's a lot more love.
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Free marketing. All right, so the Grammys have
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just kicked off, or they've just finished, actually, and there's
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been a bit of controversy. But in saying that, our boy, the
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one and only J. Cole, has just dropped his
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album. All right?
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Just finally come out. It's been a while since he's
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done it. It's called the Fall Off and
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we're going to play a little bit of a game.
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All right, kind of just seeing who Machus or who he would pick
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between a list of rappers that I have OK, on our on my list here.
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OK, so because he has just released his first and foremost,
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I mean, what's your favorite song from his list so far?
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My favorite one is Bro. Honestly it's probably the intro
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song. What's that one called the the
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intro to disc 2? That this 39 so 39 intro.
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Yeah, it takes a while to get into it, but when after three
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minutes of the song and it comes in, bro, he comes in so hard and
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I rate it. He starts off with the and it's
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like a big. Chop Yeah, I think my one on
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this list bro, is life sentence. Life sentence is.
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Good. Yeah, I really like that at the
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moment. You played that for me this
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morning and I was just like bro, that's on.
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You know, I'm only 6 songs really into the album so far.
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Yeah. Overall I'm enjoying it.
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Yeah, I am. I am.
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And it's been a while since he's obviously I released something.
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So it's pretty cool to see that. But I've got a list, OK, of the
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top 30 artists that I think could possibly challenge J.
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Cole. OK, so am I going?
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So I'm going to say, for example, J.
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Cole or Tupac, and you just choose and whoever you choose, I
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then take that name and then I compare that person to the next
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one and you just choose, OK. This is going to be hard.
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So by the end of this list of 30 people I have, you might either
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still be AJ Cole fan or you might have gone to somebody else
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right now, just to give you context, I've chosen rappers
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from the nineties, 2000s and today's generation.
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OK OK All right. So to kick it off, since he just
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released his album, we'll go J. Cole versus Nas.
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J. Cole.
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J. Cole versus.
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Tupac. That's how it is for me, but I
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have to just go my personal preference.
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J. Cole.
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J. Cole.
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Or Biggie. J.
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Cole. J.
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Cole or Jay-Z? J.
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Cole. J.
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Cole or Snoop? J.
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Cole. J.
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Cole or Ice Cube? J.
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Cole. J.
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Cole or a King? J.
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Cole, I didn't even know those. J.
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Cole or Scarface? J.
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Cole. J.
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Cole, Wu Tang. J.
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Cole, J. Cole, Lil Wayne.
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J. Cole.
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J. Cole or Eminem?
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J. Cole.
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J. Cole, Mac Miller.
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J. Cole.
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J. Cole 50.
20:31
I have J. Cole.
20:32
J. Cole or Drake?
20:34
Drake No. One's beating Drake, no one's
20:39
beating Drake. All right, Drake or Kanye West?
20:45
I forgot about Kanye. I have to go with Drake because
20:49
he's my favorite. I have to.
20:51
That's a hard 1 though. Drake, Drake or TI?
20:55
Drake, Drake or Kendrick? Oh man.
21:07
Drake or little Baby Drake? Drake or Doja Cat, Drake.
21:12
Drake or outcast Drake. Drake or Andre 3000, Drake.
21:16
Drake or Missy Elliott, Drake. Drake or Ludacris?
21:21
Drake, Drake or DMX. Drake.
21:24
Drake or Pusha T Drake but. No one's being Drake.
21:27
Bro I think I might get you on this one.
21:29
Like who? Drake or future?
21:38
Damn, that's how long it is. Pause too.
21:40
But like it's hard because I honestly listen to future more
21:43
but I'll go future. Oh bro, OK Loki I wasn't
21:49
expecting. I'll go future I bro I listen to
21:51
him too much. I Loki, was not expecting that.
21:53
Yeah, I'll go. Future.
21:54
OK, I got you. All right.
21:55
Yeah. OK.
21:56
Future or Megan the stallion. Future.
21:58
Future or Travis Scott? Future.
22:00
Oh damn future. Well that was a list of 30 right
22:05
there. So you're going to end on
22:06
future. Damn bro, really?
22:09
Yeah, I'm, I'm basing that right now, bro.
22:12
I'm listening. I listen to way more future now
22:14
than I do Drake. Like back in 20 tens I would
22:18
have been Drake. But yeah, I don't know.
22:22
But he's fire. But he is.
22:23
Fire right like especially working out songs where I love
22:26
listening to future a he's so good like so This is why
22:30
actually should I roll into what I was going to say.
22:32
So the whole Grammy thing has got me shook because Kendrick's
22:37
obviously won best rap album. He he's won an unheardly amount
22:42
of Grammys like but if I quickly look out now, Grammy winner
22:49
history. But do you know Chris Brown's
22:52
only only won I think 3 Grammys? I'm going to, I'm going to be
22:57
quite honest with you bro. Like maybe our listeners want to
23:00
know this as well. I don't even really know what a
23:02
Grammy is like for so like is it best artist?
23:06
Yeah, there's heaps of different topics so you might get like
23:08
best artist, best rap album, Best Song, best music.
23:10
Video like best newcomer. Yeah, so usually if you have
23:13
like 1 fire song, you'll you'll or one fire album, you'll get
23:16
probably like 4 or something, you know what I mean?
23:18
Because you'll hit a few of those categories.
23:21
But so Beyoncé has the most Grammys of all time.
23:26
All time. Of she got 35.
23:32
OK, next. OK, the next ones I don't even
23:36
know these other dudes but. Hey, hold on.
23:38
First, I want to make this clear.
23:40
Beyoncé, I, I love her old stuff.
23:43
I think most of us are in that boat.
23:45
But her new stuff? But she got a Grammy for that
23:47
last album. That country one, eh?
23:48
Yeah, that's didn't she get best country artist?
23:52
Yeah, I think so. But anyway, so bro, Kendrick
23:57
Lamar has 27. She's he's like 5th or 6th on
24:00
the list. He's 27 bro so just compare that
24:04
Kendrick with 27 to. Let's see, Michael Jackson.
24:11
We can actually. What's Michael?
24:12
You want to know, Michael? Yeah.
24:13
Give me MJ. What's MJ?
24:15
He's got 13. And he won that all in one
24:18
night. He won probably most of them in
24:21
one night. Yeah, he probably did, actually.
24:23
Because I remember that picture or video.
24:25
Wow, 13. He's 13, so Kendrick has 27,
24:29
Beyoncé has 33, but Rihanna has 9.
24:33
OK. Usher has 8, Prince your boy 7.
24:42
How much do you think Prince has?
24:43
Should have? Well.
24:46
Freaking 35 at least. For the fiance, OK outcast has
24:52
6. OK, hold on.
24:53
Just just before you carry on as well.
24:55
Yeah, I'm telling you this Prince should have way more, and
24:58
I'll tell you why. One, he's an entertainer. 2, he
25:01
can actually play every instrument that exists.
25:04
Beyoncé has a good voice. She could dance.
25:08
I don't know if she can play any any instruments.
25:11
If you're a musician, no, she can't.
25:12
If you're a musician, she can. Dance with her.
25:17
Her booty. That's all she does.
25:18
Yeah, that's true. That's her instrument.
25:25
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. It's crazy, right?
25:29
50 Cent one. Was that was it it?
25:33
Had to be geek get. Richard, I try, yeah.
25:36
Is that not crazy Drake? Do you know how much Drake is?
25:39
I'll say like, honestly, I'll say like 7 or 8.
25:43
Oh, I just lost him. Let me go now he has three.
25:47
Oh my. God, yeah.
25:50
OK. And Chris Brown has 2.
25:54
Chris Brown having 2 is insane. I don't like, yeah, I don't like
25:57
that. That's I don't like that.
25:59
Yeah, I don't like that. Bro, that's to me, bro.
26:03
It's just like, it's that just shows.
26:05
It's not a fair representation of what the best music is.
26:09
Like Usher, Chris Brown, Drake. What does Jay-Z have?
26:15
I need to figure that out. Let me scroll to the top,
26:17
because I tell you what, if Jay-Z has more than 20, I'm
26:21
done. He doesn't have more than 20.
26:25
He has how many does? Yeah, Jay-Z have.
26:33
I'm telling you right now, if he has more than even this, if he
26:36
has more than 15, bro, I'm I'm done.
26:38
He. Has 25 that's see in the podcast
26:42
I'm over bro. I'm gonna be honest bro, you
26:46
don't deserve any. OK, I'm OK.
26:49
So that's. 25. He's 25, bro, and Chris Brown
26:51
has. Three OK name name 5 songs that
26:55
are good often that he's done Bo.
26:58
Inan Paris is the only good song of his in my opinion and that's
27:03
Kanye. What's that one?
27:04
It's a hard. It's a it's a hard life.
27:06
For us that's trash bro. I like that song though, 90. 9
27:11
problems and. OK, that's three.
27:15
So here's here's one more Grammy than Kanye, which is just like
27:19
I, I don't get the hype behind. I feel like Jay-Z choosing
27:22
himself like it's insane. Have a look at some of the
27:25
Grammys and when they come up, maybe not take it into don't
27:29
they don't be thinking too much about about what they what
27:32
they're saying because very Oh. I don't care.
27:34
Kendrick Lamar trash, trash bro. Like I'm not a fan of his voice.
27:39
Like I can't handle it. I honestly cannot handle.
27:42
It yeah, no, neither. I just he sounds like a little
27:47
baby bro. Yeah, he sounds like he likes
27:49
me. Shoot, I've been getting a
27:50
massive argument on my because you saw me going nuts on on my
27:53
social media for what? Posting Kendrick like how he's
27:56
trashed? Yeah, but I look, that was based
27:58
off our podcast too. Yeah, and but we were comparing
28:01
him to who Drake probably or some anyway.
28:04
Yeah, I'm, I'm honestly, I'm not a personal fan of of K dot.
28:09
I loved his tracks from back in the day.
28:11
Yeah, you know when he had all those, those.
28:15
Good kid mad city. Yeah, with like money.
28:18
But This is why I don't like I feel like I come from actually
28:22
an objective opinion on this because Kendrick was one of my
28:25
favorite money trees is probably my favorite song of all time.
28:28
Like I reckon J rocks verse the beat his hook on it is so fire.
28:34
Like I couldn't wait for how to pimp a butterfly and damn to
28:37
come out. And when they came out it was
28:39
way too preachy. Like bro, I'm not trying to.
28:42
This is what I had a massive argument on my people on my
28:45
Instagram with as people saying like he's he's reflective of the
28:48
times. Every single album he makes is
28:52
so well thought out and it all has meaning in that.
28:55
Bro, I'm not trying to hear that.
28:57
Like, first of all, I'm trying to hear a good song, like have a
28:59
good beat, have your voice sounding like not like a gremlin
29:03
and have it just like sounding good, you know, and like, and
29:07
then with that, I'm trying to hear something that maybe
29:12
there's a good play on words and that, but first of all, it just
29:15
needs to sound good, bro, you know what I mean?
29:17
And like I'm not and bro and king and the I have a butterfly
29:23
that has so many awards and shit and bro it's that one with I
29:27
love myself. Oh true, I love myself.
29:31
I hate that bro. I.
29:34
Actually hate that song and then King Kutta, anybody in the
29:39
butter in the Kuto? But I hate that bro.
29:44
I just think it's so corny and then he's trying to like, I just
29:48
don't think he, he makes music for certain people and like what
29:52
you want to like. But for me, man, that's, that's
29:55
definitely not my cup of tea. You're preaching too much, my
29:59
bro. And like, OK, no, no, let me
30:03
just keep talking about this because I'm actually going to go
30:05
around. So what do you think though?
30:08
You know how everyone is so obsessed with he represents the
30:11
culture and the culture loves him.
30:13
What's your opinion on that? Because to me people say, oh, he
30:17
represents the culture and obviously they're talking about
30:19
like black culture and so much of music style, everything
30:25
derives from black culture because they're at the forefront
30:28
of so much stuff. And I feel like it's probably
30:31
because of their history. They were, it gave them a good
30:36
story to tell through art and like music and, and all the all
30:40
style or everything like that. And but people from New Zealand,
30:44
for example, they want to rave about the culture or he
30:48
represents the culture or, and like that, but it's a little
30:53
bit, but it's not our culture. And but we love it so much.
30:57
We, we, we want to, we want that to represent like us as well.
31:01
And it's like that doesn't is do you do?
31:05
You agree with that? I I actually, I can see your
31:07
point on that. Yeah, I do.
31:08
I do. Yeah.
31:09
It's not our culture. No, it's like, it's like, for
31:12
example, you know, people who are not black or black culture,
31:16
yeah, come from that, you know, African American background.
31:19
And they use the word that inward.
31:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we've had conversations like
31:24
this before, hey? Well, I just don't understand
31:26
how someone say, thinks it's OK to use that word.
31:29
No, but it's not, it's not part. It's, it's a, you know, we all
31:33
know it's a derogatory term. Yeah, like our people haven't
31:37
been through what their people have been through.
31:39
No, we're not. That's not our culture.
31:41
Yeah. And bro, I've been at league
31:44
trainers, I've told you and yeah, we had an indigenous dude
31:47
in our team that would say the N word.
31:49
And I was like to bro, you know, you can't say that a that's bad
31:52
as to say. And he was like, no, I'm black
31:55
and I was like, yeah, and colour.
31:57
But that's a different history and culture completely to what
32:00
you guys have. That's not Uber and that's a
32:03
little bit. It's the derogatory using that.
32:06
So like, yeah, people love to copy that.
32:09
They want that to be them. But it's a little bit like
32:12
that's well and true. And you can love to love
32:14
culture, but to me, I'll find it a little bit weird when you're
32:19
so much so. Here it is, bro.
32:21
Like for me, if you haven't grown up in that area that he
32:23
grew up in and you don't understand, tell me this.
32:26
Go ask any of our brothers and sisters on our end.
32:29
Yeah. What street?
32:32
Name a street over there in America.
32:34
Yeah, if you can name a street where he's from.
32:36
Yeah, yeah. Maybe I'll, I'll, I'll let it
32:39
slide. If you can't name a street or a
32:41
cafe or a restaurant or a go to place, a clothing store or
32:45
anything like that over there where he's from.
32:46
Yeah, you don't know you don't know their culture, but stick to
32:51
stick to the beaches in your middle class house that you
32:54
brought up in, bro. Like and that's cool to like
32:57
other cultures. You can not saying that you
32:59
can't like other cultures and stuff.
33:00
So that's cool. But when you're so much so
33:03
invested that that is the only thing that can be cool.
33:06
Kendrick's the best by far because he represents the
33:09
cultures. Like, bro, yeah, he's
33:11
representing the culture and he's doing really well.
33:13
But like, why are you so obsessed with that?
33:15
I don't know. Yeah, but that's my little ran
33:17
anyway. The Grammys they're playing up
33:20
so oh. Bro, let me just go one more
33:22
time as well on the Michael Jackson thing because that's
33:25
been a hot topic on my on my thing.
33:26
So we posted a clip on the Michael Jackson thing and I've
33:29
been getting hate so much hate. You don't know anything about
33:32
music and blah blah, blah. Like that's this is a hard watch
33:35
podcast. Equipment should be more
33:37
expensive or whatever the hell people.
33:38
Yeah, but first shush, because you're it's all the people in
33:42
their basement saying that. But anyway, the like, I didn't
33:47
say anything bad on those clips. Did you think all I see it is
33:50
like, I was like, oh, but I don't really know.
33:52
I don't think it's that good and I even see it like.
33:54
You gonna be honest about? It I was like, I was like, yeah,
33:57
it's pretty good. But like, yeah.
33:58
And I agree, Michael Jackson is really good.
34:01
He's great, but in my opinion, he's not one of the greatest.
34:05
That's all I'll say. Yeah.
34:06
Yeah. And I'm allowed to think that.
34:07
That's my other thing bro. And I disagree with you.
34:10
Yeah, but that's OK. Yeah.
34:11
And I'm not, I'm not butt hurt by a bro.
34:13
Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
34:14
And but this and music, I've realized now I'm kind of over
34:17
arguing about music because you can't win an argument about
34:20
music because it's like objective like.
34:22
It's subjective. It's subjective.
34:23
Subjective. Yeah.
34:24
It's at the end of the day, no matter what argument you have,
34:27
you're always going to have someone that agrees and someone
34:29
that doesn't agree. Yeah, it's simple.
34:32
But I do want to say this, JB, you copied Michael Jackson going
34:35
out there in your undies. Yeah, yeah, I was shocked.
34:40
When I seen that, eh? That was kind of crazy, eh?
34:42
Supposedly there's a story behind it that.
34:46
Did you hear about that? I saw people talking about it
34:48
but I still didn't understand. Look, all I know is that it
34:51
basically was a statement that he was trying to make that,
34:53
yeah, the industry is is basically controlled and has.
34:58
Yeah, yeah. Oh.
35:00
Damn, is he talking about Diddy? Yeah.
35:03
Oh. No, I think that's what.
35:04
Was this a Diddy reference? I think it was something to do
35:07
in that field. Look, I don't actually know the
35:09
full context, but that's why he went out in his undies.
35:12
So yeah. I mean, Michael Jackson wears G
35:14
strings, but damn, that guy rocked up in his boxes.
35:17
And like, that was it. Damn, that was pretty crazy,
35:21
bro. So wait.
35:22
Wait, wait, I got one more thing to say.
35:24
So you know, diddy's going through all the stuff.
35:25
Oh yeah. And you know, JB is like under
35:28
thing because like they're saying he got dirty.
35:30
Yeah, allegedly. The what?
35:36
What do you reckon? That's pretty bad if it comes
35:39
out and it's like actually sees that a Yep, that old damn.
35:47
OK, let's be let's be real right now.
35:49
Will that change your opinion on JB?
35:53
It would a see the fact that you haven't even answered it.
35:55
It tells me it would. Nah Nah, because that's not his
35:57
fault, bro. That's not his fault, Barry.
36:01
Daddy, bro is an animal bro. That's don't do that.
36:04
Why do that? Why did you do that, bro?
36:07
You're like, you're like Epstein at this point.
36:09
Yeah. Yeah, no, you're.
36:10
Right, you're right. He is.
36:12
Like bro, literally. Damn and he he getting out next
36:16
next year or something so. The I'm I'm I'm firmly of the
36:21
belief throw away daddy's key. That dude bro is an is a.
36:26
Bro, he's disgusting. He's.
36:29
Disgusting did everything and he's a manipulator.
36:32
What bro him and yeah, so but no, I won't think any different
36:38
than JB bro. That's my boy.
36:39
I can't unless he did he he did someone then I would yeah, but
36:44
if he got did he'd no, you're safe.
36:48
I'll I'll feel, I just feel sorry for him.
36:49
If he did like, I'll be like. Damn, so you feel sorry for Meek
36:52
Mill as well? You got to feel sorry for Meek
36:59
Mill, then. No, I feel different about Meek
37:00
Mill. I don't.
37:03
I don't mess with Meek Mill now, to be honest, I listen to Meek
37:05
Mill songs now and I'm just like, I can't, I can't listen to
37:09
this. I actually can't listen to this.
37:11
He grossed out about it. Yeah, yeah, I know.
37:13
That has to be AI, right? What it doesn't sound like.
37:20
I'm off it. I'm off it, that's for sure.
37:22
Have you ever seen? It's actually disgusting.
37:28
And they said the body kind of recorded today.
37:33
Oh, boy. Yeah.
37:34
No, The thing is, it sounds exactly like Big will know.
37:38
Yeah, it does, but we should have been laughing about this
37:40
too. That's crazy.
37:42
No, no, he didn't get. He didn't get thing though he it
37:44
was consensual apparently. Oh.
37:48
But have you heard the video? It's consensual view.
37:52
Oh, but we actually might actually get our first ever
37:55
podcast cancer. We need to stop, yes.
37:58
Well, if you've got an opinion on the Grammys and JB and Diddy
38:02
and and all that, well, keep it to yourself.
38:07
Just remember