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A Year without Paradise · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for Bachelor headlines.
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  Speaker 3: We are here breaking down everything relevant in Bachelor Nation.
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  Speaker 3: The first one's a big announcement, one that we didn't
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  Speaker 3: know would be coming, one that we honestly didn't expect
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  Speaker 3: to happen at least this soon. But the Bachelor's in there,
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  Speaker 3: kind of like second part of Golden Years, and well,
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  Speaker 3: that throws me into the headline. They've announced that the
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  Speaker 3: Golden Bachelorette will happen by the end of this year.
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  Speaker 3: Ashley tell us everything.
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  Speaker 4: It's happening in the fall. The leading lady will be
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  Speaker 4: in her sixties or beyond. We don't know who it
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  Speaker 4: is going to be.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, isn't that what it's always been? Is that what
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  Speaker 2: the show?
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  Speaker 4: I guess what they're saying is that they're going to
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  Speaker 4: continue with the theme of eighties and a sixties and older,
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  Speaker 4: not eighties. That would be a whole different show, to
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  Speaker 4: be honest, bring that one off.
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  Speaker 2: I like them all, but it's always been sixties and older.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. The new cast will be announced at a later date.
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  Speaker 4: This was one of their biggest successes as of late
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  Speaker 4: the show, The Golden Bachelor, reached forty three point four
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  Speaker 4: million total viewers after just thirty five days of it
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  Speaker 4: on ABC and streaming platforms, and it ranks as the
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  Speaker 4: number one new unscripted series this season amongst adults. So
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  Speaker 4: of course they were going to do this again. We
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  Speaker 4: were just waiting for the announcement, which Ben said, like,
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  Speaker 4: we didn't know when it was going to be announced.
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  Speaker 4: The unfortunate news that I do believe follows this is
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  Speaker 4: that I don't think there will be a Bachelor in
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  Speaker 4: Paradise this year. I think this is going to take
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  Speaker 4: its place in the fall.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a fair assumption.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think we've had enough rumors upon rumors
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  Speaker 3: about what's going to happen to Paradise. And I do
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  Speaker 3: agree with those that are experts that say it's never
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  Speaker 3: a good idea to take a year off of a
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  Speaker 3: show because we very rarely see it come back. So
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  Speaker 3: I am concerned that maybe Paradise is uh is no longer.
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  Speaker 4: Do they announce that, like, do they come out with
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  Speaker 4: the announcement or they just like let it ghost out.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like they're just gonna let the kind of
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  Speaker 3: ghost out until it's the summertime and they go, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, it's not happening.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think at this point we can probably
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  Speaker 3: assume it's not happening.
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  Speaker 4: Which is this like really sad for me? Okay, it's
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  Speaker 4: like really sad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad. I mean it's sad for me too.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how they're going to get people to
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  Speaker 3: keep coming on this show if there's not a Paradise.
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  Speaker 4: It's so weird. Jade and I were talking about that.
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  Speaker 4: Could you just imagine, like could you I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I can't imagine signing up for the show and then
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  Speaker 4: knowing that like, once my time there is done, it
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  Speaker 4: is done for me. It was maybe that's like signing
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  Speaker 4: up for the show, you're like, Okay, that's fine, of course,
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  Speaker 4: that's you know, the way it used to be. But
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  Speaker 4: it's when you make all the friends in production and
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  Speaker 4: you have this amazing experience and you just want to
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  Speaker 4: do it all over again. I was so happy to
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  Speaker 4: know that Paradise was going to be an option for
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  Speaker 4: me to just like kind of hang out with everyone again.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't care about the TV element as much as
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  Speaker 4: I did like just this community that you build well.
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  Speaker 3: And I think there is still that thing that we've
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  Speaker 3: really enjoyed over the years. I mean, Sidney's a great
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  Speaker 3: example of this is it's usually a place for a
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  Speaker 3: redemption story. It's a different environment, it's more comfortable, it
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  Speaker 3: is kind of more laid back, and we usually see
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  Speaker 3: people who feel misunderstood or just don't feel like the
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  Speaker 3: Bachelor works for them. They get themselves twisted up into
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  Speaker 3: a bad experience. Paradise is that redemption story, and that's
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  Speaker 3: something it's been enjoyable to see over the years, and
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  Speaker 3: we will see that right now. So who knows if
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  Speaker 3: it comes back, who knows if it's still airing this year.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know, But it's with them filming Golden Bachelorette
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  Speaker 3: in the fall, it feels harder and harder for them
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  Speaker 3: to turn a Paradise as well.
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  Speaker 4: So, Ben, who's it going to be? Is it going
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  Speaker 4: to be one of the ladies from Gary season?
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  Speaker 2: I hope?
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  Speaker 1: So?
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  Speaker 2: I hope, So, I hope.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, there's so many of them, I choose
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  Speaker 3: any of them, honestly, from the Sanders to the Kathy's,
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  Speaker 3: the Susans, to the Jones to I mean all of them.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I.
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  Speaker 3: Can't think of one of those women that we watched
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  Speaker 3: on television this year that wouldn't deserve or be really
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  Speaker 3: incredible in this experience. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, that's that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of my thought. Well, next headline is this. This
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  Speaker 3: one got a lot of traction this week.
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  Speaker 4: I don't find that it's all over my Instagram feed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, people really care still, And it feels like Caitlin
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  Speaker 3: Bristow makes our headlines every week, and it's usually about
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  Speaker 3: stuff that I don't really understand why she's making a
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  Speaker 3: headline about it, And this is one of those. It
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  Speaker 3: says Bachelor Nations Kaitlin Bristow thought she was asexual after
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  Speaker 3: end of a relationship. This according to E News Ashley,
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  Speaker 3: I've listened to the interview.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still confused on why it's such a big deal,
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  Speaker 3: But maybe you can help me.
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  Speaker 4: And sex always makes headlines, sex sells. They're getting good
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  Speaker 4: clicks on this, I'm sure now. I think the only
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  Speaker 4: problem problem is like I think we have Sean and
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  Speaker 4: Jason out there being like it wasn't me.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I mean, at fair I'd buy that, dude.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, here's a thing though, she because she doesn't
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  Speaker 4: say what relationship it was, is it.
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  Speaker 2: Be a secret decade ago?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And is it a secret that in relationships there's secrets
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  Speaker 3: to keep the fire burning, meaning that five six, seven, ten, fifteen,
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  Speaker 3: twenty forty years into relationship you have to work at
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  Speaker 3: keeping things alive. That yeah, you know, when you first
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  Speaker 3: start dating or you first get married, you know, your
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  Speaker 3: uh like drive towards each other is a little bit
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  Speaker 3: different than maybe what it looks like twenty years from
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  Speaker 3: then or five years from then. So for me, I'm like, oh, yes,
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  Speaker 3: like okay, you're in a relationship for a long time
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  Speaker 3: and at the end of it you feel like I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if anything, I'd ask Kaitlin, like, what are you doing
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  Speaker 3: to keep that flame alive?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's the way this is missing.
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  Speaker 4: Let's say this. I feel like so many people out
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  Speaker 4: there would think this about themselves, but Caitlin's the one
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  Speaker 4: that says it out loud. After you've been in a relationship,
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  Speaker 4: especially if it's not going well.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I just think her word asexual might have been
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  Speaker 3: the kind of the point here that people are like.
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  Speaker 5: That's actually I mean, like okay, fine, that she said, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: my sex drive has driveway decreased as I've been longer,
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  Speaker 5: and as I've been longer in relationships, we'd all go yeah, okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But you know that's just like Caitlyn and like she
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  Speaker 4: worded that the way that I would like word. It's
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  Speaker 4: kind of just like you're chatting with your girlfriend. She's like,
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  Speaker 4: I was like feeling asexual.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, I'm saying she did an'ything wrong here. I'm just
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  Speaker 3: confused on why it was all over my Instagram this week,
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  Speaker 3: Like why were people so shocked that.
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  Speaker 4: It's because she said the word asexual and it's sex Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, she said she thought.
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  Speaker 2: She was she was asexual.
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  Speaker 4: After this relationship was like coming to an end. She
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  Speaker 4: said at this point that she was at I couldn't
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  Speaker 4: have seen myself more with a woman. I actually thought
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  Speaker 4: that than a man, because I get it. I think
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  Speaker 4: women are hot and I could do that, and I
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  Speaker 4: was like, I guess this is it, and then I
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  Speaker 4: was fine with it. She also said that she felt
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  Speaker 4: the urge to explore a romance with a man again
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  Speaker 4: after going on a few dates. She was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to hook up, and she was like oh,
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  Speaker 4: I would like to hook up like p and the
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  Speaker 4: V And that made her realize that she wasn't a
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  Speaker 4: desert down there. This was all in a podcast that
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  Speaker 4: she did with Stoss Schredder.
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  Speaker 3: Caitlin is very seasoned in media, right. She's been a
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  Speaker 3: part of the show for a long time. She's been
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  Speaker 3: a part of a lot of shows. She's a star
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  Speaker 3: from the show. She knew, there's no question in my mind,
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  Speaker 3: she knew that when she said I could see myself
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  Speaker 3: with a woman, that this wasn't going to cause a headline.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, She's not sitting there being like nobody's ever
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  Speaker 3: going to talk about this. Yeah, so this feels like okay, great,
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  Speaker 3: like totally good. Understand what she's saying. She's not saying
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  Speaker 3: anything that crazy, and she knew exactly that this was
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  Speaker 3: going to be a story, and look we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: it now. Well, speaking of stories, another big one this
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  Speaker 3: week in Bachelor Nation. It's from The Golden Bachelor, Kathy Schwartz,
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  Speaker 3: friend of the podcast, been a part of this podcast
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  Speaker 3: multiple times. No Hour is just what this in Monterey.
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  Speaker 3: She dodges questions about askn Drama blameskin, Well, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 4: That's their acronym for their friend group.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, that's great. Blame's natural selection. This, according to US Weekly,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't really feel like she dodged the question. It feels
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  Speaker 3: like she answered it.
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  Speaker 4: She sure did so. Askin is the friend group that
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  Speaker 4: she has with Nancy and Susan and April together. Their
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  Speaker 4: first initial comes up with askin and they were like
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  Speaker 4: their own little like friend click and something happened. There's
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  Speaker 4: a falling out with April. So she said this. These
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  Speaker 4: are the quotes. We were a group of fearless women
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  Speaker 4: who took this on. And the fact remains, we're all women.
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  Speaker 4: This is what she said on our podcast, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: and she goes, as time goes on, you know people better,
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  Speaker 4: and I think that it's just an natural part of life.
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  Speaker 4: And I can honestly say that I'm friends with everyone
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  Speaker 4: from the show. If there's someone particularly you're asking me
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  Speaker 4: about Ben what.
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  Speaker 2: This is like from our show, I know this was
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  Speaker 2: me last week with her.
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  Speaker 4: So wise, So can you explain this? Had she said
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  Speaker 4: anything further from this?
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  Speaker 3: No, Again, she's really good at media too. I tried
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  Speaker 3: to get it out of her. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: there is this, Uh, it wasn't a secret. I guess
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  Speaker 3: to anybody there that there was drama going on on
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  Speaker 3: social media with April. She had April definitely said things
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  Speaker 3: or posted something. Hannah can speak to a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more because Hanna and I had talked about it before
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  Speaker 3: I sat down with Kathy. Hannah, what was happening on
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  Speaker 3: social media?
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  Speaker 4: Produce Hannah, and can I just butt into here for
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  Speaker 4: a second. I thought we were trying to get Kathy
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  Speaker 4: back on the podcast to talk about this, but you
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  Speaker 4: guys aren't already talked about the drama again.
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  Speaker 2: I'll explain it everything here in a sucse.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, I'll not get on here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the drama with April and the asking
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  Speaker 3: ladies that we never fully got an answer to? But
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  Speaker 3: it was one of the prep things that you and
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  Speaker 3: I had talked about before I sat out there.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, right, Yeah, there was drama about the whole trip
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  Speaker 4: that they show to Saint Martin. Somebody, for some reason,
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  Speaker 4: April didn't go to Saint Martin, right, And she is
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  Speaker 4: like saying on social media that, like, sorry, I have
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  Speaker 4: a life, I have a job, I have to make money,
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  Speaker 4: I have to like make my grandchildren a priority. And
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  Speaker 4: then and then she also kind of added it and like,
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  Speaker 4: maybe I don't want to hang out with it everyone
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  Speaker 4: I don't know everyone.
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  Speaker 3: It was like it was kind of undertoned. It was undertoned,
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  Speaker 3: kind of jabs at these women for going on this trip,
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  Speaker 3: even though April was invited. And so when Kathy was
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  Speaker 3: in Monterey and we sat down for the interview, it
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  Speaker 3: was something I wanted to talk about, but it's also
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  Speaker 3: one of those issues that I don't want to talk
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  Speaker 3: about if Kathy isn't comfortable talking about it, meaning I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Show Kathy's timfortable talking about all of it.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't feel like it.
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  Speaker 3: So I laid the question out there as you read
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  Speaker 3: in this you know, kind of break down, and she
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  Speaker 3: kind of dodged around it, and it wasn't worth me
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  Speaker 3: digging into being like, yeah, but tell me. Honestly, because
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  Speaker 3: Kathy's a friend of the show, I want to respect
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  Speaker 3: her for giving us the time to even sit down
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  Speaker 3: with her. And I think she said enough, right, she
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  Speaker 3: said enough to make it make sense. Hey, natural selection
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  Speaker 3: or hey, you know what, we hang out with the
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  Speaker 3: people we want to hang out with, things happen, So
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  Speaker 3: I think we can pretty much tie those two things together,
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  Speaker 3: where April is upset and the ladies are saying, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sorry about.
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  Speaker 2: You, and they'll all move on just fine.
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  Speaker 3: I just didn't want to dig in and ask, you know,
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  Speaker 3: more pointed direct questions. If Kathy wasn't willing to share stuff,
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  Speaker 3: she had the opportunity. She easily could have been like,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, yeah, this is what's happening, and these
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  Speaker 3: girls are mean.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: She didn't even tell me she didn't want to talk
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  Speaker 3: about it, but we got enough to say, hey, you
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  Speaker 3: know what, these other girls are fine, they're doing great.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever is happening with April.
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  Speaker 3: April is kind of sharing about it on her social media,
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  Speaker 3: so there is a rift in the asking group. It's
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  Speaker 3: now just skin and I think all of them will
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  Speaker 3: move on, probably in any given direction. It is unfortunate
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  Speaker 3: because you would love to see these golden ladies just
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  Speaker 3: be really close friends forever. But life is life, and
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  Speaker 3: no matter how old you are, things happen, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't love that things are being shared. Like again, it
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  Speaker 3: feels a little bit like the lay conversation this week,
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  Speaker 3: where it's like I want to make my grandkids a priority,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like, so you're assuming that these other women don't, well,
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  Speaker 3: how do you know that? Are they not allowed to
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  Speaker 3: take a trip for a week away or like, so, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's very passive aggressive.
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  Speaker 4: Well here's the passive aggressive line here. So she said
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  Speaker 4: on Instagram before she did the whole thing where I like,
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  Speaker 4: I just said, like I have to pay for a
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  Speaker 4: leak in my roof, I have to visit my grandkid.
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  Speaker 4: I have to go, you know, go to work. She
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  Speaker 4: introed all that by saying, for all the folks from
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  Speaker 4: Texas and Pennsylvania that are daunting me about why I'm
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  Speaker 4: not going to Saint Martin, although it's none of your business,
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  Speaker 4: there are only three people who I knew I canceled,
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  Speaker 4: who knew I canceled. But karma never sleeps. That's the
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  Speaker 4: shady part.
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  Speaker 3: It just it feels again, it feels like so many
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  Speaker 3: storylines that we're covering right now in Vachination.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like something said that you have no context
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  Speaker 2: for it. It doesn't really need to be a thing.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm assuming we will get Kathy back on here
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  Speaker 3: to maybe talk about it further. Once this, you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of smoke settles and everybody's moving on. But right now,
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  Speaker 3: well almost Samos does have the exclusive interview with Kathy.
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  Speaker 3: You can go back and listen to it. Actually, it's
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  Speaker 3: a great interview. This is just a small piece of it.
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  Speaker 3: And Kathy says, what as much as she wanted to
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  Speaker 3: share without making this a bigger story, and there's wisdom
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  Speaker 3: in that, right, can't we I mean, from this Bachelor
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  Speaker 3: season alone, can't we all agree that there's wisdom and
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  Speaker 3: sharing just enough to not make it a bigger issue
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  Speaker 3: than it needs to be. Yes, Okay, Hey, that's all
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  Speaker 3: the headlines we have for you today. Again, it's a
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  Speaker 3: two part week with the Bachelor. We will be breaking
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  Speaker 3: down both episodes. Bachelor episode four is out, episode five
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  Speaker 3: will be out. Obviously, we have headlines. So much happening
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  Speaker 3: in Bachelor Nation, and the headlines won't ever stop. I
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  Speaker 3: have a feeling, you know, it's wintertime. People start acting
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  Speaker 3: crazy in the winter. We'll get more headlines next week.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be talking about all of this good stuff. Anyways, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: until next time, I've been Ben, I've been Ashley.
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  Speaker 2: See ya.
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