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The Late Debate | 5 February · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Late Plain.
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  Speaker 3: Well, good evening and thanks for your company.
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  Speaker 4: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Staorra and Caleb Bond coming
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  Speaker 4: up tonight.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things I really like.
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  Speaker 4: About Donald Trump is his ability to say what everyone
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  Speaker 4: else is thinking but too afraid to say. We've got
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  Speaker 4: a hilarious example of that from a press conference earlier
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  Speaker 4: today will show you that. Plus when we look at
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  Speaker 4: the papers, an interesting story from The Herald's Sun tomorrow
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  Speaker 4: about how bureaucrats tried to hide the true cost of
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  Speaker 4: Victorian infrastructure from voters. And Adam Bantt is making news
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  Speaker 4: tomorrow accusing opponents of.
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  Speaker 3: Renewable energy of risking lives. Of course, he's saying.
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  Speaker 4: That we'll get to all of that shortly, but first
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  Speaker 4: let's talk about my greatest nightmare, and that is I Kia.
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  Speaker 4: I clear claim to be all about sustainability and confusing
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  Speaker 4: us with their instructions putting flat packs together, but now
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  Speaker 4: they're claiming their sustainability plans well simply unsustainable. The Swedish
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  Speaker 4: furniture giant had committed to what they called zero net
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  Speaker 4: zero emission deliveries.
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  Speaker 3: That means effectively that they would go full electric with their.
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  Speaker 4: Delivery vans and trucks, but having achieved sixty five percent
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  Speaker 4: of their fleet as electric, they've decided to hit pause
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  Speaker 4: on saving the planet. No more electric vehicles because there
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  Speaker 4: simply aren't enough charging stations in Australia and there's not
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  Speaker 4: enough government incentives by which I think they mean taxpayer
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  Speaker 4: dollars to help them, as a private company, convert their
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  Speaker 4: diesel vehicles to electric.
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  Speaker 3: So we found something.
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  Speaker 4: Even more difficult than putting together an IKEA flat pack,
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  Speaker 4: and that's saving the planet. Like most big corporations, ike
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  Speaker 4: if you go on their website, they have a whole
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  Speaker 4: section dedicated to their commitment to climate action, to keeping
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  Speaker 4: the temperature from rising more than one point five degrees because,
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  Speaker 4: as everybody knows, there's a climate crisis, a climate emergency.
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  Speaker 3: We've got global boiling.
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  Speaker 4: And they are very committed to it as long as
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  Speaker 4: the taxpayer dollars keep flowing. But until there's some more
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  Speaker 4: government incentives, well we're just going to have to put
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  Speaker 4: up with a little more global boiling because IKEA say they.
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  Speaker 3: Can't do any more. You know.
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  Speaker 4: The irony, of course, Caleb, is that Ikea in Australia
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  Speaker 4: made fifty three million dollars profit last year.
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  Speaker 3: Globally they made over a billion dollars.
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  Speaker 4: So you would think, if we're really in a climate crisis,
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  Speaker 4: if global boiling is a thing, they might dip into
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  Speaker 4: their own pocket a little more to save the planet.
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  Speaker 4: But apparently saving the planet is only worth doing if
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  Speaker 4: someone else is paying for it.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, indeed, it's always the case. Heck, why would I
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  Speaker 5: pay for anything? That's just not the way the world works.
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  Speaker 5: Surely we know that by now. But let's be serious here.
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  Speaker 5: If you truly believe in sustainability, don't buy your furniture
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  Speaker 5: at Ikea.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you think the difference is that it's being.
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  Speaker 5: Delivered on a van that is powered by coal indirectly
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  Speaker 5: in the form of electricity instead of by diesel, that
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  Speaker 5: you're somehow saving the planet. You're living on another planet.
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  Speaker 5: You've already migrated to, that one that we're all apparently
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  Speaker 5: going to have to go to once this one starts burning.
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  Speaker 5: If you truly believe in sustainability like I do. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I call myself a proper conservative in the sense if I
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  Speaker 5: want to conserve the planet, I buy secondhand, go to auction,
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  Speaker 5: wonderful antique pieces that can be bought for very good
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  Speaker 5: money similar to what you'll be paying in Ikea, that
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  Speaker 5: will last forever, and have already lasted forever.
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  Speaker 2: You've seen my place before? Is have you been around
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  Speaker 2: to my place?
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  Speaker 3: I had an invite to you. You need to have
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  Speaker 3: an old place.
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  Speaker 5: Not that new, and you must come around and check
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  Speaker 5: out the great view I have of Sydney Harbor. But
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  Speaker 5: you've seen the furniture I have, and most of it
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  Speaker 5: either comes from Facebook, mark place or auction, and it's
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  Speaker 5: stuff that's decades old, some of it one hundred years old,
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  Speaker 5: and it will continue to last.
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  Speaker 2: It's already been made.
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  Speaker 5: If you're going down to Ikea and buying this furniture,
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  Speaker 5: that's required a tree to be lopped somewhere on the
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  Speaker 5: other side of the world, and then they've had to
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  Speaker 5: go to a factory and put all this stuff together
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  Speaker 5: on the other side of the world, spewing all these emissions.
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  Speaker 2: Out while they're doing it.
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  Speaker 5: Then they put it on a plane or a boat
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  Speaker 5: from the other side of the world and sent it
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  Speaker 5: to Australia and you reckon it's.
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  Speaker 2: The then that they bring it to.
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  Speaker 5: Your house in that's going to make the difference. I've
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  Speaker 5: put the Sydney Harbor Bridge to sell. You start buying
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  Speaker 5: secondhand if you really care about sustainability.
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  Speaker 2: This is nothing but window dressing from a company like that.
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  Speaker 6: Beautiful stuff, not the mass producer. Yes, exactly, you get
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  Speaker 6: at Ikea. It is beautiful stuff. He got me onto
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  Speaker 6: the auctioneers here in Sydney and it has ruined my
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  Speaker 6: life in the best way. Before I was just a
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  Speaker 6: Facebook marketplace fiend loved it. Everything's secondhand. All these people
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  Speaker 6: who are like selling off their grandma's this or their
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  Speaker 6: great It is incredible because a lot of the time
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  Speaker 6: the younger generation do not appreciate what their ancestors has
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  Speaker 6: left them and are selling it for a song on
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  Speaker 6: Facebook marketplace. It's absolutely well if you're me, it's the
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  Speaker 6: best thing ever. But you didn't even mention all the
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  Speaker 6: cardboard they wrap everything product in. Can you imagine how
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  Speaker 6: many trees die per year just to facilitate ike is
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  Speaker 6: boxing every piece of the couch you buy, every clothes Era,
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  Speaker 6: every single thing they buy comes wrapped in cardboard. But
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  Speaker 6: I got to say this seems straight out of the
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  Speaker 6: government playbook. You make an announcement, you get the photo. Ops,
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  Speaker 6: it's a massive announcement, and you get the applause. Now
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  Speaker 6: this part is key, and then years later, just amongst yourselves,
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  Speaker 6: you kind I'm like, yeah, so that's that's going.
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  Speaker 3: To work, is it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah? But hey, we got the applause. That's the main thing.
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  Speaker 6: People remember that bit, and nobody really needs to know
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  Speaker 6: about this. I mean, they'd be shocked to know that
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  Speaker 6: we're discussing it tonight. Someone picked up on it and
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  Speaker 6: put it out there, probably also as a condemnation of
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  Speaker 6: the fact that if we in Australia as a nation
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  Speaker 6: do not have enough charges to service their fleet, how
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  Speaker 6: the hell are they supposed to service an entire nation?
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  Speaker 6: Simple math.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the other problem, of course is when they're doing
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  Speaker 4: deliveries in the inner city, then an electric vehicle it's easy,
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  Speaker 4: but a lot of their deliveries are outside of metropolitan areas.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's no charges.
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  Speaker 4: Just quickly before we move on Calebs, thinking about second
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  Speaker 4: hand furniture, I've actually got a secondhand piece of Ikea
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  Speaker 4: that I can tell you because I was putting it
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  Speaker 4: together last week and I had one job just to
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  Speaker 4: drill in one screw and I drew it in crooked
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  Speaker 4: and that kind of thing. So if you want to
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  Speaker 4: buy a seconds I could find one.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you.
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't need a secondhand disc was I have
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  Speaker 5: a lovely Australian made partner's desk. You see Australian wood
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  Speaker 5: made right here in Sydney. But you have to wonder,
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  Speaker 5: because of course I hear all this flatback stuff you've
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  Speaker 5: got to put together. Is that how Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 5: going to reconstruct Gaza? Now look, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 5: go into massive detail here because you must have been
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  Speaker 5: living under a rock if you've not heard the news
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  Speaker 5: today that Donald Trump announced while he had Benjamin Nitt Yahoo,
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  Speaker 5: the Israeli Prime Minister with him at the White House,
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  Speaker 5: that he was somehow going to take control of Gaza.
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  Speaker 5: He was going to own Gaza and rebuild it. We
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  Speaker 5: can get into the details of that later, but Tierry
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  Speaker 5: was a deppressor.
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  Speaker 7: Today, the US will take over the Gaza strip and
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  Speaker 7: we will do a job whether too. We'll own it
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  Speaker 7: and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded
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  Speaker 7: bombs and other weapons on the site. Level the site
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  Speaker 7: and get rid of the destroyed buildings. Level it out
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  Speaker 7: create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of
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  Speaker 7: jobs and housing for the people of the area.
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  Speaker 2: Ike is already applying for the contract.
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  Speaker 5: He went on to say that other Middle Eastern nations
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  Speaker 5: are actually on board with this proposal.
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  Speaker 7: You have to learn from history. You can't keep doing
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  Speaker 7: the same mistake over and over again. Gaza is a
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  Speaker 7: hellhole right now. It was before the bombing started, frankly,
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  Speaker 7: and we're going to give people a chance to live
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  Speaker 7: in a beautiful community that's safe and secure. And I
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  Speaker 7: think you're going to see tremendous at tremendous outflowing of support.
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  Speaker 7: I can tell you I spoke to other leaders of
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  Speaker 7: countries in the Middle East and they love the idea.
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  Speaker 7: They say, what really brings stability, and what we need
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  Speaker 7: is stability.
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  Speaker 5: The riviera of the Middle East is what Trump says
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  Speaker 5: he can deliver to Gaza. It seems a bit far fetched,
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  Speaker 5: but so is a lot of the stuff Trumps is.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes he manages to deliver and sometimes he doesn't. What
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  Speaker 5: I don't think is in question here is the fact
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  Speaker 5: that Hamas cannot continue to rule in Gaza if there
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  Speaker 5: is to be any sort of peace in the Middle
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  Speaker 5: East in that particular region of course, between Gaza and Israel.
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  Speaker 5: The question is how exactly you manage to move Hamas on.
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  Speaker 5: What Trump seems to be suggesting here is that in
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  Speaker 5: some way the US takes control of the land, they
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  Speaker 5: disperse people, and they rebuild it. Benjamin Ettnya who spoke
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  Speaker 5: about the fact that we cannot continue to have Hamas
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  Speaker 5: there today, We.
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  Speaker 8: Can't leave Hamas there because Hamas will continue the battle
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  Speaker 8: to destroy as well. They'll do it. You know, when
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  Speaker 8: the stemporary cease fire, one of their leaders comes out.
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  Speaker 8: You know what he says, We're going to do October
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  Speaker 8: seventh again, except we'll do it bigger. So obviously you
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  Speaker 8: can't talk about peace, neither with Kamas or in the
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  Speaker 8: add least if this not toxic, a murderous organization is
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  Speaker 8: left standing anymore that you could make peace in Europe
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  Speaker 8: after World War Two if the Nazi regime was left standing,
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  Speaker 8: in the Nazi army was left standing. You want a
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  Speaker 8: different future, You've got to knock out the people who
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  Speaker 8: want to destroy you and destroy peace.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we're going to do now.
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  Speaker 5: Look, my analysis is much the same as Paul Murray's
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  Speaker 5: was just an hour ago. It's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 5: Michael Shubridge explained exactly why with Chris Kenny earlier today.
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  Speaker 9: So I don't think it's going to happen because two
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  Speaker 9: million Palestinians aren't going to happily leave Gaza, and the
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  Speaker 9: Arab states in Egypt are not going to welcome them in.
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  Speaker 9: While Donald Trump turns the Gaza territory into some economic nirvana, well,
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  Speaker 9: he's talking about America taking an ownership stake and ownership
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  Speaker 9: position is the quote from him. And he's talking about
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  Speaker 9: the Palestinians not wanting to be there anymore because it's
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  Speaker 9: been destroyed, and being happy to be somewhere else, and
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  Speaker 9: even hoped that the King of Jordan and the general
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  Speaker 9: in Egypt would open their hearts and their lands to Palestinians.
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  Speaker 9: That is not going to happen. None of the Arab
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  Speaker 9: states nor Egypt welcomed Palestinians during this war.
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  Speaker 3: They kept their borders closed.
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  Speaker 2: And I think on that count he is right.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it is such a difficult idea that you're
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  Speaker 5: going to get other Middle Eastern nations to take on
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  Speaker 5: the Palestinian people so that the US can somehow come in.
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  Speaker 2: And take the place.
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  Speaker 5: Surely what Trump is playing at here is some kind
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  Speaker 5: of bargaining chip. This is not a literal the US
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  Speaker 5: is going to somehow take Gaza and rebuild it, because
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  Speaker 5: it would take literally decades in order to achieve that,
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  Speaker 5: and by some means, you would actually have to achieve
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  Speaker 5: taking the land. And you're not just going to disperse
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  Speaker 5: Palestinian people overnight and tell them that this land now
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  Speaker 5: belongs to the US. You'd have to see troops in there.
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  Speaker 5: You'd have to fight a war on the ground. And
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  Speaker 5: something tells me Trump would avoid that if he could.
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  Speaker 6: What do you think, Liz, Oh, you don't want to
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  Speaker 6: share your thoughts. I thought this was absolutely I mean,
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  Speaker 6: the only thing worse than watching I should say, the
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  Speaker 6: only thing more entertaining than watching this ridiculous announcement today
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  Speaker 6: was watching conservative commentators try to defend it. My ears
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  Speaker 6: are still bleeding it when something like okay, okay, so
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  Speaker 6: we're going to expel one point eight million gardens. We're
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  Speaker 6: just going to force Jordan and Egypt to take them
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  Speaker 6: because stuff their sovereignty as well. I mean, while we're
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  Speaker 6: just grabbing a piece of land in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 6: why not they can take them, and then we're just
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  Speaker 6: going to do whatever they we want with the land.
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  Speaker 6: It literally sounds like the textbook definition of Ethlicnic cleansing
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  Speaker 6: and territory. And they're just like, well, ignore that bit.
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  Speaker 6: My question is why can't you just topple this evil
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  Speaker 6: government a mass like you have toppled countless other governments,
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  Speaker 6: most recently Sirious for the fifth time, like you always do.
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  Speaker 6: Project timber Sycamore, funded by the US to the tune
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  Speaker 6: of a billion dollars. It got rid of the Assad
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  Speaker 6: regime because it had one objective, and that was to
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  Speaker 6: fund an arm terrorists in Syria to get rid of
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  Speaker 6: the government works like a charm. Again, why can't you
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  Speaker 6: do the same with a mass. Why does this come
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  Speaker 6: down to we literally have to empty the entire territory.
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  Speaker 6: And when he was asked like, oh, well, how are
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  Speaker 6: you going to get rid of the people and the
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  Speaker 6: people who have left, can they come back? Trump belligerently
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  Speaker 6: answered why would they want to come back? It's terrible
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  Speaker 6: there now, he says, while he sits next to the
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  Speaker 6: guy who's blown up sixty percent of the infrastructure, grinning
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  Speaker 6: like a cheshire cat. Yeah, it's pretty bad. But these
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  Speaker 6: people will not want to just be like, oh, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 6: build us some homes in Jordan or Egypt, and we'll
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  Speaker 6: just clear out and let you guys have your way.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, the reason why Jordan and Egypt haven't
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  Speaker 6: taken these Palestinians in it's not for the reasons that
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  Speaker 6: most people seem to insinuate, which is, oh, they're just
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  Speaker 6: such terrible people, nobody wants them. No, these countries don't
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  Speaker 6: want to do Israel's bidding. They're like, look, if you
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  Speaker 6: want that area cleared out, we are not going to
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  Speaker 6: help you take over the Gaza strip. You want it,
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  Speaker 6: you can do it, but we're not doing your bidding.
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  Speaker 6: Many of these countries already have massive swathes of refugees
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  Speaker 6: from this conflict already, and they're absolutely not taking anymore
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  Speaker 6: anymore than we would.
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  Speaker 3: There's a couple of things with this.
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  Speaker 4: Firstly, I would not put anything past Donald Trump when
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  Speaker 4: people come out and say there's no way this will
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  Speaker 4: ever happen. Well, people have been saying that about Donald
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  Speaker 4: Trump's ideas for a long time now, and he keeps
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  Speaker 4: proving everybody wrong.
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  Speaker 2: By what means, By what means, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Just saying it's out an idea, and everyone says that
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  Speaker 4: would never happen.
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  Speaker 3: Trump keeps proving everybody wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Insane, nothing's impossible. But that's what means.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the second thing.
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  Speaker 4: Gaza for the longest time has been a terrorist camp.
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  Speaker 4: That's what it is, right on Israel's border.
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  Speaker 6: So you would say the same of the entire att least.
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  Speaker 4: Then no, Gaza is a terrorist camp. They have used
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  Speaker 4: all the money they have pretty much to build terrorist infrastructure.
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  Speaker 6: And then that's what we say about Lebanon. Then we
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  Speaker 6: invade Lebanon. That's what we say about Caia, then we
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  Speaker 6: invade Siria. Stay on point I'm talking about I'm staying
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  Speaker 6: on point.
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  Speaker 4: Gaza has been you as a staging point to launch
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  Speaker 4: attacks over and over again on Israel. So Netnya who
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  Speaker 4: says we have got to get rid of Hamas, we
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  Speaker 4: can't allow that, fair point.
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  Speaker 6: Ye, So do a normal Thingia.
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  Speaker 4: So then you asked who replaces hamas well? The moment
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  Speaker 4: the Biden administration said, the Palestinian authority, who have never
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  Speaker 4: condemned the October seven attacks, they also are committed to
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  Speaker 4: the eradication of Israel. So you can't have Hamas, you
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  Speaker 4: can't have the Palestinian authority. And the problem in the
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  Speaker 4: Middle East is you get rid of Assad and you
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  Speaker 4: end up with people who used to be part of Isis.
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  Speaker 3: So wherever you replace you.
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  Speaker 6: Can thank the CIA for that.
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  Speaker 3: The point is Israel have got a problem.
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  Speaker 4: They're just going to replace Hamas with another group who
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  Speaker 4: are committed to their destruction. So there's got to be
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  Speaker 4: a complete reset and trump ish it on something very important,
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  Speaker 4: and that is that in the Palestinian people, you've got
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  Speaker 4: the most highly radicalized group of people on the planet.
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  Speaker 3: We've covered on this show.
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  Speaker 4: From early primary school, they are taught that the greatest
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  Speaker 4: honor in life to kill Jews and become a martyr
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  Speaker 4: for Allah.
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  Speaker 3: They are taught that in school, and it.
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  Speaker 6: Is representation to say that they are the only people
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  Speaker 6: on that side of the border who feel that way
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  Speaker 6: about the people on the other side.
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  Speaker 4: And yet the ceasefire was broken by the Palestinians, not
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  Speaker 4: the Israelis. It was the Palestinians who invaded Israel, slaughter
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  Speaker 4: twelve hundred people, took two hundred and fifty ostage and
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  Speaker 4: to this day, let me finish my point.
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  Speaker 3: So here's the here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: You can't rebuild Gaza on a radicalized population.
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  Speaker 6: And is not ours to rebuild.
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  Speaker 3: And expect a different result.
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  Speaker 4: That is, of course, so that you are going to
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  Speaker 4: disperse the Palestinians whereby you hope to dilute this wicked ideology,
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  Speaker 4: so then you can rebuild Gaza with.
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  Speaker 3: A different government.
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  Speaker 6: It is unbelievable, and.
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  Speaker 5: I understand the idea, of course, I understand the idea.
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  Speaker 5: But the problem is, and this is why it will
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  Speaker 5: never happen. And I'm sure it.
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  Speaker 4: Won't leverage to convince Middle Eastern nations to.
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  Speaker 5: Those but those people unless unless you literally wipe them
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  Speaker 5: out one by one. This is a centuries on generations
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: long ancestral fight over this wreck. So you can disperse
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: those people to other countries. And you cannot tell me
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: that even after Trump or whoever it might be, because
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: it won't be Trump.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Rebuilding this thing if this ever happens, right, this is decades.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Event.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: You cannot tell me that they will not at some
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: point try to come and take their land back, because
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: that is what the fight has always been about. Who
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: has the right to sit on that land. You can
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: move them elsewhere, but they're already radicalized. They are going
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: to come back for that sand.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: You've got what people that the best bet is to
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: disperse them, not to build a new community for them.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Where they're all in the same place.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: It makes sense, But you don't build anything for them.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: You don't build anything for them. You dismantle hamas and
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: leave the land as it is. Let someone else rebuild it.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Well exactly, and what you're what, who's going to do it?
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Staging point is the fact.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: By making this announcement, Trump has eviscerated his base in
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: the US, I mean absolutely. That is why I notice
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: throughout all the months of campaigning there was no mention
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: of anything like this. They wanted an America first government
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: that has always been what Trump ran on. And people
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: hearing this announcement, the US taxpayers knowing, well, this sounds
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: more like an Israel first. Now you can think that's
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: a good thing, and God bless you. I can totally
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: understand where you're coming from. But the US taxpayer, who
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: has funded these cues in other countries for decades, have
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: had enough. And a project this extensive that would indeed
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: take decades to build the money it would take just
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: to empty out Gaza and rehouse two million Gazans elsewhere.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: We are talking about bill upon billions of dollars before
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: you've even got started rebuilding a jolly scrap of anything.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: They are not behind this. I'm telling you. I was
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: all over the socials today, even social media. American get
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: on X, yes it is and you argue your very
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: opposite during the Trump campaign. So this has knifed his
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: base in such a serious way. And it's not even
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: twenty four hours old. In America, first president, that's what
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: they thought they were getting in Donald Trump. And there
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: are a lot of people who are feeling incredibly betrayed
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: right now. And lastly, let's remember that yesterday this was
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: a conspiracy theory, that this was the end goal. This
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: was a complete conspiracy theory. So now you've got all
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: the people that you probably considered nut jobs tomorrow feeling
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: yesterday rather feeling very smug today because they're like, well,
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: we argue that this was the end goal all along.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: And here you've got Trump getting up saying we're doing it.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Trump simply saying that Gaza has always been a refugee camp.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: It's time for the refugees to find a home.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: Age of Gaza. That's actually not true.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: It's pretty true to talk about the FBI list not.
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, let's talk about the FBI. So staying in
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: the States now, Oh my goodness. When the Trump administration
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: said they were going to gut the FBI, gut the CIA,
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: they are going after the deep state. This is a
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: promise that President Trump is well and truly keeping. Their
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: last ANTIQ has been to ask the FBI for the
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: names of the five thousand FBI agents. That's thirty nine
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: percent of the entire workforce of the FBI. How many
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: agents they have that were deployed to investigate the January
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: six protesters. Can you be imagine being an American taxpayer
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: and the FBI has just revealed that they were using
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: that much of their entire force just to go after
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: this loot. Check out this footage of January sixth, again unbelievable.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: We are televising listen.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: In order to get to the Capitol.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, the capital is a free place to go.
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: You are allowed to go to the Capitol, but you've
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: got to go through metal detectors, You've got to go
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: through security, and when you breach that, you haven't gone
• 22:28
  Speaker 10: through security, and youve got to imagine that that is
• 22:31
  Speaker 10: making a lot of the Capitol police and other folks
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: inside the Capitol right now very very uncomfortable and very nervous.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: Look at the violence. We've got to investigate every single
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: one of those. You would remember me telling you about
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: a grandma who was just walking around peaceably like that, paraying.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: She was sent to jail just for being there, for
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: crying out loud. These people went nuts. And guess what
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: the CIA is offering their employees just across the board.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: If you choose to leave now, you'll get eight months payout.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: If you just want to jump out of this sinking
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: ship before you're pushed.
• 23:13
  Speaker 11: Fox News alert the Wall Street Journals reporting the CIA
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: has reportedly just offered a buyout to its entire workforce,
• 23:22
  Speaker 11: everyone the agencies, telling employees late today they can quit
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: their jobs and receive about eight months of pay and benefits.
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: It's a part of Trump's push to downsize the federal government.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: Gutting the deep state. And of course the Dems are
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: reacting as you would suspect they would, gathering on the
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: steps of Treasury to give us this remarkable display of
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: garm and renting jugular veins, bulging saliva flying out at
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: the crowd. We will not take this. We will back.
• 24:02
  Speaker 12: And as I calls out, because I've know we've been
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: out here for a long time and goddamn it, shut
• 24:08
  Speaker 12: down the city.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: We are have water.
• 24:14
  Speaker 12: He will see you in the courts, in Congress, in
• 24:17
  Speaker 12: the streets.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Elon Musk is a Nazie, not ball baby. We're not
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: gonna make America great again by making America hate again.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: We're gonna stand and fight all across America. People are
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: knocked down, but they are gudding off and they are
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: going to fight the dictator of Donald Trump and his henchman,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Elon Musk.
• 24:43
  Speaker 12: We are gonna be in your face. We are gonna
• 24:46
  Speaker 12: be on your asses, and we are gonna make sure.
• 24:51
  Speaker 12: We're gonna make sure you understand what democracy looks like.
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: This ain't it.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: We will win. We will win. We will win, We
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: will win. We have got to.
• 25:06
  Speaker 12: Tell Elon must nobody elected your ass.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: They are absolutely losing it. They hate this doge business,
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: this pulling out all the government inefficiencies, sacking a pile
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: of people, doing away with DEI. They are absolutely losing it.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: Despite the fact the President Trump has said very clearly
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Elon can and won't do anything without the Trump administration's blessing.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: He's not empowered to do so. But here they are saying,
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: you're not elect nobody elected.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I love the way Trump is doing exactly what he
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: promised to do, and they're declaring at the end of democracy.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: But Trump is very smart.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: He's going to the FBI, the CIA, and he's offering
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: people who, let's call them misaligned with his worldview or
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: ramp and they should probably take it otherwise they are
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: going to hate the next four years. Trump is cleaning
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: things out as he said he would. And who would
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: you prefer, Trump with Elon Musk by his side and
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: all of his guys who are clearly very smart, or
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: those geriatrics waving a walking stick folding the handover.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: We will win. I don't know that they will.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: That was MiG Well, they've already lost. We will win.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: November last year, you've got prehansively lost and you're being
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: cleaned out now. And let's not forget all of these
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: people who are on the taxpayer dime are standing there
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: protesting while they're on the taxpayer dime about why more
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: taxpayer dimes need to be spent to continue doing what
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: they're doing at the moment. Like whether they know it
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: or not, that protest was exactly why they need to
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: clean it out. If you've got time to be standing
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: out there carrying on like that when you're meant to
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: be part of the public service, I think you've already
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: shown us it's time for you to go. While we're
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: talking about politicians who don't really seem to know what
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: they're doing, let's go down to our great friends in Victoria.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: Now we're brought to you on Monday night the front
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: of Tuesday's Herald Son which was to center Allen, the
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: Victorian premier, saying we need a review of the bail laws.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: She said, we introduced stricter laws last year, but quote unquote,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: we need to go even further now. She's taken one
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: look at the polling in Victoria at the moment and
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: realize that her government is in trouble and they're in
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: the grips of a crime crisis.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: So what can we do.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Right, Let's review the bail laws to keep these creams
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: who keep being let out.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Let's put them in jails. They can commit less crime.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: It seems to make a fair bit of sense, except
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: for the fact that that doesn't seem to have filtered
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: down to the Police minister.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Take a look, so.
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: We need she asked, I wouldn't even say that there's
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: particularly a review.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: We're always working on what more we can do to
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: keep the when he's safe.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: So let me get this straight.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: The premiere was on the front page of the paper
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: yesterday saying I have called for a review into bail laws,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: and a day later the police Minister stands up and says, I.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't even call it a review.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: There must be some sort of miscommunication in the works here.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: In fact, mister Carbine said, don't worry. I've already got
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: it fixed.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: He said, I've got plenty of stuff in the bottom
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: drawer that I can pull out that will hold offenders
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: to account. Now it raises the question, if he's already
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: got it in the bottom drawer, why is he not
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: already doing it. But he's effectively saying I already know
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: what to do. We don't need no review over here
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: in Victoria, to which Jacenter Allen, at a press conference
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: literally minutes after the policemanister stood up, said, well that's terrific.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: That he already knows what to do, which she went
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: on to say this.
• 29:01
  Speaker 13: What it demonstrates to me is that the police Minister
• 29:04
  Speaker 13: is absolutely shares and understands because he's been also listening
• 29:09
  Speaker 13: to his community, to communities around the state and understands
• 29:13
  Speaker 13: that we need to take action, which is what we're doing.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Oh fantastic. So who is right here? Like, Okay, the
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Premier says we're going to have a review. The police
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Minister says, well, actually it's not a review, but I
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: already know what needs to be done. It's in my
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: bottom drawer, but I haven't done it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And then the Premier says, that's terrific. Is this how
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Victoria runs?
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: So there seemed to me to be three options. Number one,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: she never called a review. There's a by election on
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Saturday in the suburb of Werribee, and with youth crime
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: the way it is, she just went for a headline
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: on Tuesday. She was making it up as she went.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: That's the first possibility. The second possibility is that she
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: didn't call for a review, she just forgot to tell
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: her police minister, and the way things work in Victoria,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: who would put that past them. The third possibility is
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: she called for a You she did tell the police minister.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: But the police minister, who has leadership aspirations, doesn't like
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: the appearance that he isn't up to the task and
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: he's not taking action, so he's come out to defend
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: his position. The bottom line is there's a Saturday by
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: election in Werribee. There's a twenty two percent the primary
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: vote for the Labour Party, which Troy is twenty two percent.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: There's me be a massive swing.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: I think to center Allen is desperate to make herself
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: look like she's doing something, and that's what she's doing.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: She's trying to make something right.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Action absolutely total own goal on the bacually.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: But something we've got to mention is they amended the
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: Bail Act last year. It hasn't been a year and
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: already your changes are a dismal failure. I wonder why. Oh,
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: because those amendments were designed to end I quote, to
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: reduce the impact on women, children and anyone claiming aboriginal dissent.
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: So okay, you've made them less punchy. Yes. Indeed, one
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: of the amendments was to remove the offenses of breaching
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: bail conditions and committing an indictable offense while on bail. Okay.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: So I can breach bail, that's okay. And I can
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: commit an indictable offense while on bail, and you've removed
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: those offenses, okay. Anything else. They've mandated that bail decision
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: makers consider aboriginal aboriginality above all else, very very important.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: And they've limited the use of remand. Well, if you've
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: limited the use of remand and your amendments to the
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: Bail Act last year, lady, guess what a lot less
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: people are going to be on remand and out on
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: bail instead. I mean, do me a favor. It's embarrassing.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: They're the only thing they're good at in Victoria is
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: proving over and over their complete ineptitude, which reminds us
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: of local councils. They continually do the same thing. Tell
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: you two quick stories of local councils that have made
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: fools of themselves, one in Sydney and one in Brisbane.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Here in Sydney, the Kringa Council has decided they need
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: to discuss whether or not rates should be raised, and
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: so to talk about whether or not rates should be raised,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: they decided to take all the councilors away for a
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: couple of nights to the beautiful Hydromajestic hotel in the
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Blue Mountains because somehow all that fresh mountain air as
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: they overlook the beautiful views will help them work out
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: whether or not they should raise rates. We've got some
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: photographs here you can see this hotel. They couldn't have
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: done this in the council chambers. They couldn't have gone
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: to the local community hall. No, no, the councilors had
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: to be here at ratepayer expense. And remember what are
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: they talking about, whether or not we should raise rates. Well,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I would say after that little retreat, rates will probably
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: be raised.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: But in it's even worse.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: The mayor there, John Raven, has put out a video
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: to ratepayers saying, look, we've got a couple of options.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: One is we could increase rates so you can retain
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: your services.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Or we can increase.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Rates just a touch, but we'll have to cut back
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: on services.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: So I want to get your thoughts now.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Bear in mind he produces this video and puts it
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: out there just before he takes off to Europe on
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: a fact finding mission.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Have you seen this article and this one?
• 33:30
  Speaker 14: Two councils in New South Lales have just voted to
• 33:33
  Speaker 14: increase rates by forty and eighty seven percent. A lot
• 33:36
  Speaker 14: of people are out raised, but these councils are facing
• 33:39
  Speaker 14: the same cost breshes. That logan is the infrastructure assets
• 33:42
  Speaker 14: the council manages on your behalf are incredibly expensive and
• 33:45
  Speaker 14: the things that matter to you like parks and roads
• 33:48
  Speaker 14: and rubbish.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: And they're all becoming unaffordable. So what should we do.
• 33:52
  Speaker 14: We can put up rates or we can cut services.
• 33:55
  Speaker 14: The community has made it really clear that you want
• 33:57
  Speaker 14: rate increases.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: To be as small as possible.
• 34:00
  Speaker 14: Are you willing to pay more for better roads, parks
• 34:02
  Speaker 14: and facilities or should we cut services to make rate
• 34:05
  Speaker 14: increases more?
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Now, there was an option he left out, and that
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: is that he could have not jetted off to Paris
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: and Manchester on his fact finding mission, but that wasn't
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: an option. I love the council PR team who put
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: out a statement saying a video like this hasn't been
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: done before, and the community responded with creative and constructive
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: suggestions about how to ease budget pressures. Yeah, there are
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: about four hundred comments on the video, almost all of
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: them saying if you want to save money the councilors
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: have paid two million dollars just sack them all creative
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: and constructive suggestions.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: It's funny because it's like they've almost worked out how
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: this works.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: That they've worked out that there are.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Cost pressures in the world right because councils like the
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: rest of us, are finding it more expensive to do
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: this stuff that they've always done. That they've realized that
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: there is a cost of living crisis.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: But they've missed the bit where they.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: Get all of their money from us, and we are
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: also facing the same cost pressures that they are, and
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: they think that somehow we just have endless pots of
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: money to give to them to do what they're doing. No,
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: we are in the same boat as you, buddy, except
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: that you can come to us and force us to
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: give you money if we own property in your council.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Of course, you know we have no choice in the matter. Yeah. Sure,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I'm happy to have a cut in.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: The services if you go through with a fine tooth,
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: go and cut out some of the nonsense that you
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: probably don't need to be doing. Oh, I'm quite happy
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: with that. But they get it. They just think that
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: we can pay for everything we can't.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, instead of sitting down and going, okay, let's go
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: over the budget, let's cut the fat, because you can
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: bet your bottom dollar as a hell of a lot
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: of fat. I used to be a local government counselor
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: we go over the budget every year. You're supposed to
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: be spending rate payers money wisely. Instead this guy just
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: addresses the LGA and says, do you want high rates
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: or do you want to live in a dump? Which
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: one isn't gonna be, and these caring by people. Everyone
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: knows that if you are counselors, the least you could
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: do on your little retreat to decide what to do.
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: If you must have it, it should have been made
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: in the council chambers. Do me a favor is spend
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: the money in the LGA. You're elected by those people.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: If you're going to spend that much money at lee,
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: stn't add insult to injury by giving it up to
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: fat cats miles away. When you consider that Elon Musk,
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: head of DOGE, is literally sleeping in government federal government
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: buildings with his entire team, saving up to a billion
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: dollars a day for the American taxpayer. Because that's a
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: lot of accommodation. They don't have to fork out for
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: that's what this guy's doing in order to be creative.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, for him, it's normal. He slept on the
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: floor at Tesla. He does the same thing at Twitter.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: But this is the kind of lengths that people can
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: go to when they get creative and take the fact
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: that hey, we run on other people's hard earned money.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: There is any number of things you can do to
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: spend it more wisely and cut back massive.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: And it's worth pointing out very quickly that New South
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: Wales just lost a Transport minister because she used a
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: publicly funded van to go to a winery good that
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: would have cost no more than one thousand dollars. And
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: a council can spend twenty grand for a piss up
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: and that's fine for sure, doesn't cut it.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: The thing I love about that Sydney piss up is
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: that the report said the counselors did discuss the fact
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: that the optics didn't look good and then they went
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: ahead with a piss up. So that's what they think
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: of you, ratepayer.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: We go to a break.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: When we come back, we look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: including a plot by Victorian bureaucrats to hide the true
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: cost of infrastructure from the voting public.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: All of that in just a moment. Welcome back.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Let's take a look at what's making news tomorrow. We'll
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: start with Caleb, because you've got the South Australian paper.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Of course, the South Australian master race. Here it is
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: again except for the fact that the is front of
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: the earth TiSER tomorrows now have much good news. To
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: be perfectly honest. Hydrogen bomb is the story. Tens of
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: millions in unpaid royalties and bills, green power plant at
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: risk of blowing up the Wyalss Steel Works owes tens
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: of millions of dollars in royalties to the state government
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: and contractors, with the crisis threatening to turn Premier Peter
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Mallanaskus's five hundred and ninety three million dollar hydrogen plant
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: into a pipe dream. Sanjiv Gupta's GfG alliance is six
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: months in arrears on royalty payments and tens of millions
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: erowde in bills, but workers continue to be paid. Now.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: The idea of the hydrogen power plant is that it
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: would power the steel works, but of course if you
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: end up having no steel works. Then there's not much
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: demand for hydrogen power anymore, which would make it I
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: don't know how many hydrogen our projects there have been
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: in the last couple of years that have been touted
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: and then have fallen over in Australia. This would just
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: become one in a long line of them. Twiggy got
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: rid of vis et cetera. It seems to be a
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: dead duck and.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: If it still works, aren't paying their royalties? Then the
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: revenue he was counting on to do the green hydrogen
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: doesn't exist. So there's probably more chance of Peter Amanowska's
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: solving hospital ramping than what did you what did.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: You just call him Peter mallan Olsk.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: No, No, that's not what you see do I say?
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Remanossmanow always getting confused with the former Essendon footballer, and
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: the similarities are uncanny.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: I don't even hear what they're both good looking men, tall.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: And remnists, indigenous, wasn't he Now?
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: I know what Kale things to the front page.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Of that you are you as guinea woman in South Australia.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: She will tell you that Peter malanowskis is a good
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: looking fella.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: It's just a thing. It's just a thing.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Must be a South Australian thing. To the front page
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: of the Herald Son now exclusive SRL bosses those plotting
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: to hide huge projects cost in document government tried to
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: keep secret. Well it didn't work, did it. Let us
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: read on. A top secret document reveals that suburban rail
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: Loop bosses plotted to hide from the public details of
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: how much the Monster project would cost due to concerns
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: about how it would be funded. The bombshell twenty twenty document,
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: obtained recently after the government fought for three years to
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: bury it, lays out significant and unsolved funding risks for
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: the SRL, which was designed to run from Cheltenham in
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: melbourne Southeast Bayside to Werribee in the city's south west. Yeah, okay,
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: well we found out. Now what will happen next?
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: So the story is that the Victorian Labor government is
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: lacking in transparency.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, funny about that.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: That made the front page.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I'm shocked.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: Maybe I'm absolutely shocked.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe the Premier should go and talk to the
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Police Minister about this stuff and you see whether maybe
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: the got crossed somewhere.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe ask.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: Him for a review that is then be revealed that
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: he didn't know we've been asked for a review, but
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: it's not a few things banging around in his draw.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: That this is a project that no one asked for
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: that's now valued two hundred and fifty billion dollars or something.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: It is literally insane and they keep pushing on with
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: it because it was such a jewel in the crown,
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: supposedly of Daniel Andrew's big build that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: They can't let go of it.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is a government, let's not forget that
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: paid a billion dollars to stop a road being built
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: after it took government, and it's still wasting money on
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: things that no Imbringham they didn't want that well, they
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: certainly don't want this.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: You've paid what five hundred and six hundred million dollars
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: not to stage the Commonwealth Game.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: So the hits or hat keep on coming.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: If you live in Victoria, the Gold Coast is a
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: much nicer place to live, but they've got their problems
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: as well. Terrors on two wheels, reads the headline of
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: the Gold Coast bulletin. Top Cops wore on e bike
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: brats the Gold Coasts top cop Craig Hanlon says police
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: are facing a battle to control reckless e bike riders,
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: who I love this quote flee like cockroaches when approached
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: and can't be pursued because someone could be seriously hurt. Well,
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: I well understand police fears because if you've ever been
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: walking along a footpath and had an e bike come
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: flying up behind you, not only do you not hear
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: these things, but gee they're quick, doing thirty forty kilometers
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: an hour. There were eight people killed in Queensland on
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: e bikes last year and more than seven hundred people
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: hospitalized because of e bike accidents. And that's before we
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: get to the pedestrians who've been terrorized by this. So
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: police wanting a clamp down. There's a big meeting on
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: the Gold Coast Safe Bikes. Eight eight Queenslanders killed on
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: e bikes last year.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: Wow, Okay, that's mind blowing. I didn't think they were lethal.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: I didn't think they were actually deadly, but I'm assuming
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: that that would be colliding with caryll.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: And the problem is you've got a bicycle, but it's
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: now powered via battery, it's motor rise. So they're still
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: trying to work out how to classify them, aren't they.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: And then you've got kids riding e bikes and it
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: all depends on the power of the motor, how fast
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: it will go without you having to peddle. And I
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: think jurisdictions right around the country are still trying to
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: work out what to do with this. And that's before
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: we get to e scooters. Yes, are a problem all
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: of their own.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: I think they're mean to be limited to about thirty
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: k an hour or something out of twenty five. Of
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: course you can fiddle with that and fix that up
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: quite easily, But I mean, what I'm reading here is
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: that the coppers have now been outsmarted by a bunch
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: of lunatics on bikes. So surely the answer to that
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: is to put the coppers on the e bikes. I mean,
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: if the problem is you can't chase them with a
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: car because it's too much of a danger, put the
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: coppers on the e bikes and chase them that way.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Well, that the Gold Coast bulletin was talking about one
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: of the schools on the coast, I reckon there's three
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: hundred kids in one school that.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Have all got e bikes.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: And the cockroach reference was to a police cars arrived
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: at a Macker's and there are apparently one hundred teenagers
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: with e bikes and as soon as the police arrived,
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: they went in every direction, hence the fleeing cockroach.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I'm having visions now.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: We used to talk about biki gangs, you know, we
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: meant people getting around on Harley day By and stuff.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Now it's going to be e byte gangs, like you know,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: dangly kids getting around on ebucks. That's going to be
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: the new vanguard of organized grab in Australia.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the front of the Australians viral where
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: it says.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: Renewable energy opponents putting lives at risk, says banned.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, what could this possibly be?
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: Adam Band has lashed the Food Distributors of Australia for
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: questioning Labour's renewable energy strategy and claimed they are quote
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: putting Australian lives at threat by backing more coal and
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: gas as til MP Zoe Daniel Lag who's concerned businesses
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: should put solar panels on their roofs solution to dealing
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: with skyrocketing energy costs. I mean there's two brainycs for you, right,
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: Adam Bandt says that food distributors and I mean, correct
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: me if I'm wrong, sending an email or whatever, Lars,
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: don't you.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Food distributors are people who supply.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: What is literally like fuel for humans, so stuff that
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: keeps them alive. Food distributors are putting lives at risk
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: by saying the cost of producing the stuff that keeps
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: us alive is too high. Make that make sense, and
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: then Zoey Daniels has no problem.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Just put some solar panels.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: On the root.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: That'll fix it all up. I mean, we are living
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: in a clown show, an absolute clown.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: Show, Adam Bandt talking about you know there's people all
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: over the country living in fear for their lives because
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: of bushfires or floods. I'll tell you I know a
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: lot of people in towns where they've got mass flooding
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: at the moment, Caldwell and Ingham, and they're concerned about it,
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: not fearing for their lives and never have been. They
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: know how Australia operates and they take it in their
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: strong This.
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: Is such a joke and this idea from Zoe Daniels,
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: which the last time we talked about solar banels, I
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: think it was the last time. We're talking about how
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: some energy providers are now charging people who have the
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: solar bannals because it's generating power at a time they
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: don't need it. So the grid's like, actually, we're going
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: to charge you because you can't turn off your solar
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: panel for sending us the power and we don't want it. So,
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: if anything, he could end up costing these guys more.
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: Nobody listened to Zoey Daniels. That's the moral of the story.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: It's a total clown show here in Australia, but we'll
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: go to America after the break, where it's just as clownish.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: Although I do love the clip we're going to show
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: you after the break of Donald Trump saying what everyone
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: is thinking but too afraid to say. He's bold enough
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: to say, it's pretty funny that's coming out from this money.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: One of the things I love about Donald Trump is
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: he just comes out and says it. Everyone else is
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: thinking it, but Donald Trump actually says it. Take a
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: look at this media conference today with Benjamin and Yahoo.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump was asked a question from an Afghani journalist
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: and here's what happened.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 47:09
  Speaker 15: In Kymia, I've can suffer poman as I expectations from you.
• 47:13
  Speaker 15: Do you have any plan to change Afghanistan situation? Are
• 47:16
  Speaker 15: you able to recognize Taliban? Because I'm an upgun journalist,
• 47:21
  Speaker 15: up and suffer woman. An you comment about Afghanist and
• 47:24
  Speaker 15: what's your future plant for aub gun people, especially against
• 47:27
  Speaker 15: I have.
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: A little hard time understanding you. Where are you from?
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: Actually it's a beautiful voice and a beautiful accent. The
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: only problem is I can't understand the word you're saying.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: But I just say this, good luck, living peace.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Living peace.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I love Benjamin ing Ya, who's standing beside it with
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: this big smile, just thinking I can't.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Believe this guy. He's like no other leader in the world.
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: I just don't understand your next question. Please we go
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: go in peace back to the damn this you'd be
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: very familiar with AOC. She is the Democrat senator best
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: known for the woman who would fail finger painting. She too,
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: has taken to her socials to let everyone know how
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: much she disapproves of Elon Musk, but not for the
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: usual reasons. She reckons he's just dumb.
• 48:21
  Speaker 16: This dude is probably one of the most unintelligent billionaires.
• 48:25
  Speaker 16: I have ever met or seen are witnessed, which you know,
• 48:32
  Speaker 16: you could probably even glean that from watching these people
• 48:35
  Speaker 16: on TV. Anyways, all of that is to say is
• 48:39
  Speaker 16: that they don't do their homework. Clearly, like they're putting
• 48:44
  Speaker 16: nineteen year olds in at the treasury. This dude is
• 48:46
  Speaker 16: not smart.
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: Okay, love him or hate him, but Elon Musk is
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: not only the richest man in the world, but he
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: is so because he's recognized as a genius even by
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: the people who hate him. He has changed the world
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: in profound ways and will continue to do so thanks
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: to his incredible intellect coupled with the work effect he
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: literally catches rockets.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: To say he's the dumbest billionaire is like saying that
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: someone is the dumbest a grade student.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I mean they're in a class, all there.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: And also she says he's put nineteen year olds in
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: charge of treasury.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: This guy's so dumb.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: I thought it was the Dems that wanted to like
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: get sixteen year old exactly exactly.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: That's all we've got time for tonight, but stick around.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Coming up is the Reader Penny Show.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Good Night