Latest / The Art of Costume Podcast / Scream VI with Costume Designer, Avery Plewes

Transcript

Scream VI with Costume Designer, Avery Plewes · The Art of Costume Podcast

0:11
My cutter Peter cut out all the pattern pieces from that and
0:15
then we had a stitch or go in and Stitch every single strike
0:20
cheese. Yeah.
0:22
A lot of work, is this really necessary and I was like
0:43
Hello and welcome to the Arctic costume.
0:45
Blog has I am your host Spencer Williams.
0:49
Hey costume nerds. Thank you so much for joining
0:51
me. So excited to talk about today's
0:54
special film. Of course, it is Scream Six and
0:59
you know how much I love the screen movies.
1:02
I've been watching them forever. They're probably my favorite
1:06
horror movies. They're just perfect and Miguel
1:09
weather is Fanboy for life. That lime green suit in the 90s
1:14
changed my life for the better. And maybe I didn't know it back
1:18
then, but it definitely changed my life.
1:20
Let's start off with a summary. For survivors of the Ghostface
1:26
murders leave Woodsboro behind for a fresh start in New York
1:30
City, however, they soon find themselves in the fight for
1:33
their lives when a new killer and Barks On a bloody Rampage.
1:38
And that is Scream 6. As always, let's dive behind a
1:42
wardrobe, we have directors, Tyler Gillett, and Matt, bet the
1:46
Nelly and then I would love to introduce my friend costume
1:50
designer Avery plutus, you would know her for her work.
1:54
Work on Ready or Not, The Craft Legacy and 8-bit Christmas.
2:00
So now I have some good news and I have some bad news.
2:04
The good news is Avery is going to be joining me right after the
2:08
break to talk all about Scream Six.
2:11
And I love this movie, there's so much to get into first, I
2:15
love any movie that takes place during Halloween, just so many
2:19
fun costumes. And of course, I love diving
2:21
behind the history of Ghostface the Ask all the archival
2:26
costumes that we're going to get into.
2:28
That's right. Avery had to recreate all of the
2:31
costumes. You seen this film?
2:32
And of course, we have to talk about Gale weathers so we're
2:35
going to get into that bad news. Daniel's gonna murder me.
2:43
Sorry Daniel the bad news is this interview was pre-recorded
2:49
just not too long ago, few hours ago and we have some technology.
2:54
Shoes. It's not a ruse fault.
2:55
It was my fault because I'm dumb and I had some of the wrong
2:59
buttons pressed. So I am currently on Daniels hit
3:05
list. Sorry Daniel.
3:08
So you will hear a little bit of echo in the interview coming
3:11
from my side. All I ask is that you forgive
3:15
me, I guess you know it happens I'm sorry.
3:19
Okay but it's Scream Six so you're going to fall in love
3:23
with Avery. His explanation of the costumes,
3:26
the process, you won't even realize that your host of now.
3:31
Almost what two years now. So can't figure out how to use
3:35
technology. Sometimes I'm sorry with that
3:38
being said, let's take a quick break and when we come back, we
3:41
will be joined by costume designer Avery plutus.
4:10
I am so excited to introduce my friend Avery fluids.
4:15
Hey, Avery. Hi, how are you, good.
4:17
I'm so excited to talk to you. I've been wanting to talk about
4:20
this film since I saw it. It's amazing.
4:23
I didn't think I could love a Scream movie more.
4:26
So, I've just been dying to talk to you.
4:29
Yeah, no. I'm excited to like, actually
4:31
talk to you. Finally.
4:32
Let's start with this. What is your favorite scary
4:35
movie? The Shining, I think the
4:37
signing. Yeah, I it's funny.
4:39
I didn't like horror until I started working in film.
4:42
I get startled really easily like huh.
4:45
Doing scream in Montreal, I made the mistake of telling my career
4:49
that very early on. And the amount of jump-scares I
4:52
personally did with my crew dressed up and goes because we
4:56
had like millions of them because of the subway sequence,
4:58
right? So people would just jump out of
5:00
nowhere at me in a full Ghostface costume all the time,
5:03
but I literally to me. Yeah, I will jump like four feet
5:06
in the air, so, I like I remember seeing the screen
5:09
previews as a kid and just, like running upstairs to my room.
5:13
Is that? So I think it's kind of ironic
5:17
that I've designed One Nail, even in my because like my
5:21
husband will walk around a corner.
5:23
Oh my God, he's like, yeah, well, let's dive into scream.
5:30
So obviously scream is such a huge well-loved franchise, take
5:34
me back to the moment where he realized you were going to be
5:36
designing a costumes for this next installment.
5:39
Imagine it must have been very exciting but also very scary as
5:43
we just talked about. Yeah.
5:45
I was Actually in Los Angeles. My husband was working down
5:48
there and I was taking time off after a long project.
5:52
I had done and radio silence called me.
5:55
I did run you're not with them and they're like we're going to
5:58
Montreal like would you consider doing scream?
6:01
And I was like yeah like 100 like I just love those guys so
6:05
much, I would do anything for them and so I was like, yeah for
6:08
sure. And I think it actually wasn't
6:12
when I got to Montreal and I realized like it's a Huge
6:15
franchise movie, it like definitely hit me but I think it
6:19
actually wasn't until the Ghostface fitting that I was
6:21
like, holy shit. This this is a big deal and just
6:28
like seeing the costume in the all of it come together.
6:32
That was like probably the moment and also the when they
6:36
told me they wanted to do the new mask that was also like okay
6:42
here we go let's just dive right into it then I guess.
6:45
Yes. So this film had a lot of
6:49
qualities to it. That were unique compared to the
6:51
others. It took place in New York City.
6:55
You know, one of the few times we see them outside.
6:57
Woodsboro it takes place during Halloween, it's starting to
7:00
fall. So, there's a lot for you have
7:01
to think about. And also, there's a little bit
7:03
of a legacy to it. So, how did you prepare for this
7:07
project? I will first, I watched because
7:11
of the museum sequence. I watched all of the films and
7:15
Went through everything with a very fine, tooth comb of just
7:18
like also looking at the consistencies throughout all of
7:22
the film's the sort of stylistic elements.
7:25
And I I also really looked at the history, like New York
7:30
history, particularly for Mindy's character and just like,
7:36
yeah. I think I watching all the
7:38
movies, and that's where I started.
7:41
Because I felt like I had to like I've seen them all before,
7:44
but I felt like I I needed to really study them and watch them
7:49
multiple times. And I think also there's not a
7:52
lot of images of certain things online.
7:54
I have to say the fan base is incredible in terms of like my
7:57
ability to research things like the details that they all know
8:01
about certain costumes. But I would like stews rope that
8:05
we recreated in the museum. Scene was just like screenshot
8:09
by screenshot. I pictures of my assistants
8:12
sitting because there's certain. I think there's I don't know
8:16
which one but there's a couple that you can't get screenshots
8:20
of online. And so she literally would sit
8:22
with like a giant black piece of fabric over her head over a
8:27
computer screen and take pictures with her cell phone.
8:32
So yeah, it we started with you know, the franchise and kind of
8:37
went from there, right? Just understand the base of it
8:40
and you know it's I've heard this many times before but the
8:43
screen fanbase to is Very dedicated and detailed in their
8:48
work of preserving all these details.
8:51
Like, I don't know if there's any other franchise that has a
8:54
fan base, that cares to this degree, like I can't eat one,
8:58
like they're there, they've been so kind and so supportive but
9:02
they like nothing gets by them. So I was like, you know, my team
9:07
a lot of the time would be like oh like I think we can get by
9:10
with this and I would be like if this costume ends up on some
9:15
Play in some City and its Cream. Pan goes up to it and notice is
9:20
there is a seam here that is not like because we had to recreate
9:24
the robes and there's a lot of times in film, you know you you
9:28
can make like for specific reasons you sort of make
9:31
adjustments to things so they function better or you know, you
9:35
don't have enough fabric. So you can kind of tweak things
9:38
in one way and I like that was just like not an option not on
9:42
this project. So let's Get into some of our
9:46
favorite scenes and characters. I always love the opening scene,
9:50
like most people this features some are weaving who, you know,
9:54
very well who you dressed and ready or not.
9:57
She plays Laura crane. I loved her look because if
10:00
still felt very New York but also you could tell that
10:03
definitely you did your research and you understood the legacy of
10:07
scream because to me, this felt very Tatum Rose McCombs
10:11
character from the original scream.
10:13
So how did this sink Together. Because I've worked with Brett
10:17
before the cinematographer I knew I didn't know how he was
10:20
going to shoot it, but I had a sense of his sort of sensibility
10:23
and how he would, how he would light it.
10:27
And it to me, also, in the script read a bit and war-- and
10:31
I wanted her to very much be in silhouette and then also really
10:35
pop. And so I and scream is all about
10:38
being self-referential, right? So I was like is there a world
10:42
in which we have a color that makes her pop and that color is
10:45
I use a lot throughout the entire movie, I call it Tay
10:48
timeline like Courtney. Cox is shoes, are kind of right?
10:52
All right. And so I was like, well it's
10:56
this this dress to me that I found was perfect because it was
11:00
like, Tatum lime is also the same bodice silhouette as what
11:05
Sam war and ready or not. It really popped on camera for
11:10
how Brett was going to light the scene.
11:12
Like I knew the lens choice and all All that business.
11:17
And then it also just it felt very much like an opening look.
11:23
And then she had, she has silver shoes which are like also kind
11:26
of like a nod to the Chrome Ghostface.
11:29
That was kind of hot tea and then she's wearing like I don't
11:32
know if anyone would notice this but she's running a little like
11:34
Pearl, drop earrings and in ready or not.
11:36
She was Pearl Earring. So it was just like a little
11:39
what also, super cool. I love this sister Duo.
11:43
Sam and Tara, they are both. Badasses.
11:46
And when it comes to their looks, they felt very within
11:48
their personalities but also to me very functional in case.
11:52
I don't know maybe they get stabbed or murdered.
11:56
So talk about their looks. I really love the jackets.
11:59
Oh, thank you. Yeah.
12:01
It was really important to me, like, in a way.
12:04
I almost approached scream like you would taking over the second
12:09
or third season of a TV show and that like, you already have
12:12
these characters and these Legacy characters that are
12:14
established And so it's like I didn't want to reinvent the
12:18
wheel of what I'm League. Unsure done last time and
12:21
they're established character. So I want you know, Sam's very
12:24
utilitarian Linda Hamilton kind of vibe and so everything we
12:29
sourced for her sort of had that undertone and then Tara were a
12:33
lot of baby pink in the last one and so I wanted to sort of carry
12:37
that through and Jenna really liked the baby pink and thought
12:41
it felt very Tara and you know something that I really consider
12:44
a lot. Not as a responsibility for
12:47
myself, as a costume designer is like how we portray women in
12:50
certain roles. And Tara's is very, very strong
12:53
character. And I find often you go to this
12:56
very hard and look for someone who's a strong character and I
12:59
love the softness of Tara of how she dresses.
13:02
And it's like it conveys, the sort of complexity of women that
13:08
you can be soft and top. Like it's not I find often when
13:12
you read certain scripts it's like she was strong.
13:15
She looked like, so I really liked how it Tara.
13:19
She still felt kind of soft and vulnerable, but she's hard the
13:24
same time. So that was sort of what I
13:26
wanted to carry through for Tara and then Sam the bomber.
13:29
I actually had, I have one that I got, you know, at the end of a
13:34
random show that we never used, and it was, it's all like
13:37
'disformed and kind of messed up its Alpha bomb and it had, it
13:41
doesn't like curve in the back, that's like, really great.
13:44
And so I brought It in and we one of the challenges of this
13:48
was shooting for October and August in Montreal and it gets
13:51
really, really hot and muggy. So it's an alfa jacket that Sam
13:57
wears. But we took all the lining out
14:00
because they're so like they're warm.
14:02
And then we re cut it to kind of have a more interesting, sort of
14:05
back side in the same way that the bomber, the deformed bomber
14:08
that I have at as that's sort of how that came to be right.
14:12
It, I love the looks they look like so.
14:15
NS has an angry of Terror to. It's like it's very soft but the
14:18
way that's put together to silhouette, you can still tell
14:21
that she's ready to rock and and obviously works out for her.
14:25
We're allowed to talk about spoilers here, but she gets the
14:28
job done. She does Chad and Mindy.
14:34
How can he not love? Chad and Mindy.
14:36
Mindy is actually probably my favorite character played by a
14:39
Jasmine Savoy Brown. I think she's brilliant and you
14:42
can learn so much about her character through her costume.
14:45
Eames. I love the strong family t-shirt
14:48
and a lavender Menace shirt and a jacket.
14:51
If all the patches and buttons on it.
14:52
I mean I could tell that you must have had a collaboration
14:55
with Jasmine on these looks. Yeah, it was funny.
14:58
You know, you always ask the whoever you're working with.
15:01
If you've worked with someone before, what the cast are like
15:04
what like what what do they like with not like and really you
15:08
know, Jasmine really has a Clear Vision of how she wants her like
15:12
how she likes Mindy to present and There's a political aspect
15:17
to Mindy's character that you saw in the last one.
15:19
And so, I just think really leaned into that.
15:22
And so I talk to Jasmine pretty early on.
15:25
And then I just, like, kind of ran with that sort of Direction,
15:31
the strong family'd T. I looked at, I designed the
15:35
graphic for that. I designed most of the graphics
15:38
on the clothes and this which is like not usually normal.
15:41
But that's pretty cool actually. Yeah, I I just wanted it.
15:46
I want full control is not that Michelle the production designer
15:53
her team. Did the black or university
15:55
who's obviously it carries through on other stuff but
15:57
strong family died, looked at queer like Cinema, Classic
16:02
Cinema with like queer undertones and their film titles
16:07
and then kind of looked at those fonts and kind of Kabul them
16:09
together. And I seen when I started
16:13
researching her character had seen Sort of these kind of
16:17
really like cheesy feminist T's, like strong female lead, and I
16:21
was like, Mindy would hate this but maybe have her own like
16:24
corrected, version of like it should be fem.
16:28
That's where the inspiration for that, that makes sense.
16:31
I make sense, I see it. Yeah.
16:33
And then lavender Menace was in my research for many.
16:37
I started looking also at sort of the queer history of New York
16:42
for her character because, you know, in a lot of ways.
16:45
Ways New York City is a safe space for people from all over
16:50
the world and all over the country to be who they are.
16:54
It's not safe everywhere. But you know it's there's a
16:57
community there that is unlike anywhere else and so I started
17:01
looking at the history of New York and there was a sit-in in
17:06
the 70s where a large group of lesbian women who felt like they
17:13
weren't being included in the This movement, I forgot the
17:16
location of the sit-in, but they made all of these t-shirts that
17:20
said, lavender Menace on them and the and I them and they hand
17:24
stencil them. So, we did that exact thing not
17:26
on the same style of t-shirt because I wanted the texture of
17:30
like a waffle, it for hers, kind of, but we hand dyed them and we
17:35
hand stencil them the exact same sort of technique.
17:37
So, yeah. And then all of her patches,
17:41
some of them are from, like, I stock that we like adjusted but
17:44
a lot of them M. I kind of came up with so cool.
17:47
I love that. Look, I feel like we're going to
17:49
see a lot of iterations of this look.
17:52
I think the fans are really going to fall in love with all
17:56
of Mindy's looks actually. So I had fun with Mindy.
18:00
Yeah. Well let's change things up a
18:01
little bit and talk about our favorite Ghostface.
18:05
Now I know from prior research that creating the Ghostface robe
18:09
and mask is not as simple as just pulling it out of a bag or
18:12
wardrobe that scream hooked you up with its Quite complicated.
18:17
How did he make these? New York goes faces coming to be
18:19
and we're not yet time at the Museum yet just like our actual
18:23
killer ghost faces. We started with the robe, which
18:27
the guys really love what Emily did on the last one.
18:30
And so, they're like, we don't really want to change it too
18:32
much, actually had the pattern. So she had done something really
18:37
great with like, how sort of large.
18:39
I mean, you can see in one of the images that you have up here
18:42
when he like pulls the night and gills.
18:45
Apartment. So how domineering it is, and
18:49
that was their whole thing that they wanted Ghostface to feel a
18:53
sort of intimidating and scary as possible and that meaning
18:59
taking up a lot of space, but I adjusted the hood of it to make
19:04
it a little bit bigger and Fuller.
19:05
In the back, we kept the foam in the front.
19:08
Like we really tried to keep the Integrity of goes through
19:11
Ghostface throughout and then I changed the Hem and so It's a
19:15
lot more sort of Jay getting kind of inconsistent and then
19:19
the I call them the wings and whole Ghostface or friends.
19:25
I guess there's six total because the Movies 6 and then I
19:31
found when we were sourcing fabric for Ghostface Gregoire.
19:36
My one of my buyers he found this like sheer fabric that had
19:41
like a little bit of a sparkle on it and it's like a it's kind
19:45
of In it and it just really made me think of like, bad Halloween
19:50
costumes, but in a route. And so we test we Cameron tested
19:56
it and the guys really liked how when layered with the hero
20:02
fabric it again took up more space and made it goes faces
20:09
opposed to sort of feel as Anonymous as possible, right?
20:12
So the more space it takes up the less easy.
20:14
It is Figure out who they are underneath, right?
20:18
So, yeah, so that was sort of the Rogue process.
20:22
I love that. And also because Ghostface is
20:24
essentially a ghost, right? So like the bigger it is more,
20:28
you know, I like the word Wings actually cuz then I'd item of
20:31
ghosts but like the bigger that is, it does kind of give like a
20:35
little bit of a floating aesthetic to to it which I think
20:38
is really on interesting. Yeah.
20:40
Oh and the boots are Doc Martens which Emily had used on the last
20:44
one and So I picked a slightly different, I picked a new
20:47
paradigm because they haven't if I remember correctly and I could
20:51
be wrong. There's never been the same type
20:53
of boots, maybe into I have it written down somewhere.
20:57
So it is listening to this. Don't come after me if I wanted
21:03
to change them because most films have had different boots
21:07
but we stay with docks and they were really generous and they
21:09
sent me what I wanted. I love the lake routine aspect
21:13
to scream to where we changed. But don't get crazy with it.
21:16
Yeah, when I saw the museum with all the Legacy costumes and
21:23
props I wanted to stand up and start applauding but I was in
21:26
like a professional screening so I was trying to keep it
21:29
together, then I come to find out that a lot of the pieces I'm
21:34
looking at inside this room actually had to be recreated by
21:37
you and your team which I just it's still, I'm trying to wrap
21:41
my brain around it. I mean, we're talking about the
21:43
Ghostface robes. Stu's rope Tatum's.
21:46
Look Steve's letterman jacket nancylou mrs.
21:49
Suit the Billy Loomis shirt with blood which I'm sure never
21:53
matches up the right way. So how how did this happen?
21:59
Yeah. That one I had an assistant
22:05
named Miriam who her whole job was the museum clothes and she
22:10
worked real closely with Michelle and Michelle's team.
22:16
But yeah, this was another area where I was like, we can't get
22:20
this wrong. This is scary.
22:23
Decent. Yeah.
22:24
Suze robe. I was I was insufferable about
22:27
it. Like I was just enjoying myself
22:29
about it. What we ended up doing was,
22:35
okay. First of all, I took a million
22:37
screenshots and started tracing on my computer and my iPad like
22:43
from what I could tell what the pattern was.
22:45
And that I have pictures somewhere but I ended up, I
22:47
realized it was like a pattern was like three spirals that go
22:53
in different directions and then it's like woven together in a
22:56
weird way the pattern, but I figured it.
22:58
I know like the legit pattern and I have a picture of it
23:01
somewhere and it's a brocade. But I was like, there's no way
23:05
we can get a brocade woven in the amount of time we have.
23:09
And I make quilts, when I'm not. Oh, how lovely you?
23:13
Like, I feel like if we Take a like, satin a poly satin to
23:20
someone who quilts with, like not the usual batting on the
23:24
inside, but like layer it up. It will read as brocade on
23:27
camera. And so we found someone who had
23:31
many iterations of like spiral patterns.
23:34
And so we had him tested on the fabric, all these different ways
23:39
and it was very, very close. The only part that was off as
23:43
there's these little sort of lines that connect like I or I
23:47
guess Stripes like three stripes that go in different directions
23:50
and so we had him do as quilt it all in that pattern and then my
23:55
cutter Peter cut out all the pattern pieces from that.
24:00
And then we had a stitch or go in and Stitch every single
24:03
stripe cheese. Yeah, that's a lot of work
24:09
called me was like, is this really necessary?
24:11
I'm hearing 55 hours to so each stripe.
24:15
And I was like, yes, yes, it is very as your name is on.
24:22
IMDb people are gonna find you whose robe which also buy that.
24:27
From what I understand, it was a random grip owned.
24:32
It wasn't even a planned piece. So it's like not like anyone has
24:37
the like I think it's vintage. That's really what I write it
24:41
is. So yes that was a whole thing
24:44
and then Miriam was really great in her research and she found
24:48
through a lot of, like, history of auction online.
24:50
What the original items were like, Emma, Roberts, outfit.
24:55
It's all the exact items we filmed on, Poshmark and Etsy.
25:01
Like the plaid shirt was actually a children's
25:04
Abercrombie shirt. She found that and then Tatum's
25:09
shirt. That was another thing where I
25:11
don't know, they must have had like 20 options and I was just
25:14
like, nope not Enough at what, what we end up with is Devil
25:18
Wears Prada scream Edition? No, I was about it, but I was
25:24
like, I'm like that you had to and you have it had to be like,
25:28
bang on. And what we did was we found a
25:31
sweater at a rental house and we convinced them to let us buy it.
25:36
Because it was the same texture, but it was beige.
25:40
It was a beige, men's sweater we dyed it and then recut, it Tatum
25:44
shape. And then some the the skirt
25:47
someone does reproduction Tatum skirts that we bought online and
25:51
is this all because you don't have access to original costumes
25:55
like they're not for someone wandering like your fans find
25:58
them. No you can't and someone's like
25:59
auctioned them all off or something.
26:02
So there's someone at home right now.
26:03
Pray wearing his letterman jacket and they're like well
26:07
sorry Bree. Yeah.
26:11
So that was that was a whole thing.
26:14
Yeah. Me It was like incredible about
26:17
it. All, I have a video somewhere in
26:19
my office. What I did was, I set up a fake
26:21
Museum and I had the directors come in and look at everything
26:24
and be like, add more blood. Make it look.
26:27
Cry. Me or make it look lighter.
26:29
You know. It is so cool.
26:32
I mean I'm still Blown Away looking at it?
26:34
I don't know if you know this but I'm a huge costume breakdown
26:37
fan. I'm just obsessed of how
26:39
costumes are destroyed. Yeah I think I'll bloodied up.
26:42
Yeah, consistency of it. How I'm sure this you have a
26:47
little bit of experience in this you know with your previous work
26:50
but scream must've been like a whole different level.
26:53
Yeah it what I have or I had Val who is our like a dream Dyer was
26:59
just incredible. I mean she did the mask but she
27:03
was she just does like incredible beautiful work and
27:05
then Sabrine who is my set key? Who did all of the blood work on
27:10
set? Like even W like I've course saw
27:13
the dailies but when I Watch the movie for the first time at the
27:16
premiere. I was like, Wow, Sabrina's here
27:22
for it all. And I like thought it looked
27:23
good, but I was like, very, very happy.
27:26
The brain did the thing he did. Yeah, it's so cool.
27:31
Especially at the scene where Mindy, and all of our heroes get
27:36
attacked. And we lose one of my favorite
27:38
characters. I'm in that latter saying I was
27:41
just like, wow, so much blood so much breakdown.
27:44
Oh, and this is a dream. I was a gross one, but like
27:47
looked great. Exactly Hayden Panettiere is
27:51
back with talk about our Legacy characters Kirby.
27:55
I mean, I love Kirby, I will say, she had me on the edge for
28:00
the majority of this film because I wasn't sure which way
28:03
she was going to go by the end, but at them today.
28:07
I loved her badass agent of Revenge costume, it's stylish
28:11
practical. Also kind of edgy, a little goth
28:14
is To me is, give me a little bit like Resident Evil Vibes and
28:18
I think that's amazing. So what was your inspiration
28:22
behind Kirby's? Look, we wanted her to feel like
28:25
we could think she might be Ghostface so she has black Boop.
28:29
Yeah, yeah you did that. And so everything was
28:35
essentially all black or dark and Hayden.
28:39
I felt like for Hayden and for Courtney Cox like they kind of
28:44
know Oh, they're characters better than anyone.
28:47
And so I really leaned into sort of how they felt and what they
28:50
would lean into and Hayden. Really wanted to wear a Perfecto
28:54
leather jacket for her. Because you know, she's like
28:57
Kirby's edgy and this and that. And so I found several versions
29:01
of that kind of jacket and we tried a bunch on and we added
29:05
shoulder pads to this to kind of again, give her more presents.
29:10
Besides, I imagine she was super stoked to be back and just kind
29:13
of recreate this character with You well and she her and Terra
29:18
both have Wes Craven's birthstone on them Tara's like
29:25
necklace that she wears. She wears it with the blue like
29:29
long-sleeve kind of Polo top. She's wearing a necklace that
29:32
has Peridot on it, which is his own and then Hayden is wearing
29:37
earrings that have Peridot in them as well.
29:40
So and grab that because she just like she was telling me
29:43
such great stories about out west and just like working with
29:46
him and it was really cool to hear you know right.
29:50
That's such a cool detail. I'm obsessed with this but one
29:55
thing I'm obsessed with above all is the legacy of Gale
29:59
weathers. Pantsuits it is one of my
30:01
favorite costume topics of conversation ever.
30:04
And always will be so Courtney Cox.
30:08
One of my favorite Topics in this film.
30:11
We see Gail and a blue pant suit with as You mentioned the Tatum,
30:16
lime, green shoes. What is your idea behind this
30:20
specific color? Why the blue pants suit?
30:24
Well? So Christopher John Rogers made
30:26
it custom for us and they sent us a ton of swatches.
30:32
And I looked at them with Courtney and she was like, I've
30:36
never worn this blue a whore in a pants.
30:38
She's like, I feel like I've worn every other color.
30:41
Let's do this. So that's is very Apple wasn't
30:45
as there's not as much of an interesting story behind it.
30:49
All right. Hang out a colors.
30:54
Also, she has like the most insanely beautiful eyes that
30:58
just like popped with this color.
31:01
Also this color is everywhere this season so I was like this
31:05
great gal. So with it I mean if you always
31:09
it's very much a popular color this season but yeah that's sort
31:12
of how it came to be. It's true.
31:15
The first moment you see her. She does really pop and just
31:18
like the it's like such a different type of chills, you
31:21
get way cigal Withers on the screen for the first time.
31:25
It's very exciting and it might wrong.
31:27
Does she wear the purple pants suit?
31:30
Or is it just the lighting that is a?
31:32
Is that a different pantsuit? Yeah.
31:35
The the when she goes to the museum, it's a okay, right?
31:38
She's actually she's actually wearing jeans because our sort
31:43
of thing our I was when she shows up to the apartment after
31:50
a certain character dies and Terrence a like really, again,
31:55
we wanted it to be like, oh she looks like she's reporting.
31:58
And then the lower he's actually off duty that was sort of idea
32:03
behind it. So she's wearing jeans and
32:06
she's. Yeah, she's wearing, like flare
32:08
jeans, which I like loved for Gale weathers.
32:12
And then the top that had jacket is Beckham and the kind of shell
32:18
underneath is Dolce & Gabbana. And then she has this, like,
32:21
bright orange bra on underneath. It's brilliant.
32:26
It's like business on top party on bottom, type of situation, or
32:30
as I call it and then that one thing that I was just blowing my
32:36
mind, because I knew this must have been such a process
32:40
whenever it's Halloween and a film, I usually get excited and
32:44
and This particular film it's like everyone in New York City
32:48
is just obsessed with horror icons and slashers and the most
32:53
wildest scary costumes. I mean, we're seeing characters
32:56
from us Midsummer which I love Ready or Not.
33:01
Michael Myers Pennywise how just how how did this happen?
33:07
Well it was scripted. And so there were two, there's
33:10
two different subway trains and so one is more like horror Cons
33:15
and then one is more Ghostface Centric.
33:18
Mindy's is more Ghostface Tantra and for Mindy, you know, part of
33:23
the. So we called it Sam's carmindy's
33:25
car and then I think they go between two and four stops and
33:33
so I planned it basically. Okay, dial it back.
33:37
Right? So, start from the beginning, we
33:40
miscrit there were certain horror characters.
33:41
So I was like, okay, I know I need x y z And then there was,
33:46
you know, we have Ghostface so I need this money goes face
33:48
characters and then it was, you know, radio silence.
33:52
Really wanted to honor West. That's like their whole thing in
33:55
general. And so and I felt the same way.
33:58
It's like we're doing horror icons.
33:59
We obviously have to include West's Legacy and so it was
34:02
perfect. What characters, from what
34:05
movies do we want? So we did our West list and then
34:09
it was just like what's your favorite horror films?
34:12
Like what ones you want to honor which and Like you know, Kirby
34:17
and Mindy talk about their favorite horror films.
34:20
You know there's Shaun of the Dead on Mindy's Subway because
34:22
they were talking about it but curd watches Shaun of the Dead
34:26
and whore. So that's like my gosh, that
34:29
even see that one. I have to go back and yeah, did
34:32
I miss the Shaun of the Dead. So that's why he's on Mindy's
34:35
train. But what I tried to do is with
34:38
and I don't think you even clock in this sequence that there are
34:42
subway stops and there, Were a couple of times where the ades
34:47
were like you are taking this, like you're being too detail
34:51
oriented with like the amount of people getting on and off.
34:54
But I just felt like for the suspense of what Matt and Tyler
34:59
wanted to convey we needed to add more and more scary
35:04
characters as the sequence went on.
35:08
So I had spreadsheets upon spreadsheets which I also had on
35:12
ready or not. It's like a thing I do.
35:14
It's We like kind of control my right brain, it keeps and then
35:23
we made the spreadsheets into like Bristol boards where we had
35:27
like every single fitting photo of all of the extras.
35:31
We had done kind of figure it out as to where they would get
35:35
on when they would get off. You know, we would like you
35:38
actually see people who are on the subway on the exterior of
35:42
the subway scene which like You know, that took coordinating and
35:47
yeah. And then I also for Mindy's
35:49
Subway. I also wanted to have when you
35:52
first get on the subway, there's some characters on there that
35:57
would make her feel like it is a safe space like Angela Davis
36:02
Ruth Bader Ginsburg and then it gets progressively worse and
36:06
worse. Like I have three handmaids on
36:09
there that we like really distressed and broke down.
36:13
Because I was, like, nothing would horrify Mindy more than,
36:16
like handmaids, right? Amongst ghost case.
36:19
Probably it was just like, it was, you know, creating creating
36:26
that space in that tension with four characters.
36:29
But then also, people that might feel safe to the characters and
36:34
then there's like babadook on the Sam car.
36:38
His tears on that car and the last one she said that babadook
36:42
was one of her. Favorite movie.
36:43
So there are lots of little Easter eggs like that.
36:48
That's so amazing. I mean, this is my favorite
36:51
scene because, you know, as a costume nerd, I love to talk
36:54
about storytelling through costume designing.
36:56
And I really think this is such like the Epic scene because it
37:00
feels so claustrophobic, you have all these horror characters
37:03
closing in but the same time, you know, their Halloween
37:06
costumes and they represent the legacy of all these films and
37:10
their favorite, scary movies. And it's also I attribute to
37:13
West at the same time and a tribute to you and your work on
37:17
ready or not at the same time. So it's just like, this is the
37:21
scene for me, is so cool and just shows how powerful costume
37:25
design costume designers are in this industry.
37:28
I have to say, I had this moment when we were filming, when we
37:33
are filming this scene during the prep of it.
37:37
But it really hit me when we were filming it because so many
37:39
people were coming up to my department.
37:41
Be like, holy like, Holy crap. Like this looks crazy and it was
37:46
really special for me because I felt like I was honoring, a lot
37:49
of the designers who have come before me and like their legacy
37:52
in their hard work, but it also it really kind of broke my heart
37:57
in a way thinking about the costume designers Guild naked
38:01
without us. Hmm campaign.
38:05
Because it was like this is a prime example of why we need pay
38:09
Equity. Because this if you took All of
38:13
these iconic Halloween costumes out of here and erased, the work
38:18
that all of these people that have come before me have done,
38:21
you would not have the same level of impact that you have in
38:26
this scene, right? So that was like, an intense
38:32
realization, but I let like, I loved doing the scene and I,
38:36
it's one of my favorite pieces of work that I've done.
38:39
Is this sequence. Like, I just had a blast doing
38:42
it, right it right? That decades and Decades of
38:44
costume design costume designers who have created these
38:47
characters and they want to exist without costume designers.
38:51
So yeah, totally. Yeah.
38:52
I think everyone should study the scene and the naked without
38:57
us hashtag naked without us always and finally Avery.
39:02
I just want to end with Avery. You're now part of this Legacy.
39:06
That is Scream, perhaps one of the most loved horror franchises
39:10
of all time and reviews couldn't be better.
39:13
What did this experience mean to you?
39:16
It was very humbling in a way of, you know, being a part of
39:20
something that means so much to so many people.
39:24
And I feel like I've been really embraced by the fans and the
39:29
community and A really lovely wonderful way.
39:33
So it's been great and it's nice to be sort of a part of that
39:39
family. So a bunch of very Lovely,
39:43
wonderful, people who care deeply and I understand, you
39:47
know, it's it's a brilliant franchise and I'm just so
39:53
excited. So excited to see what you do
39:55
next. I'm sure your your walk you
39:58
through all sorts of doors right now.
39:59
They probably can't share, but I know mean everyone listening.
40:02
So excited to see what you do next and I can't wait to talk
40:05
again. Thank you so much for joining
40:06
me. Yeah, it was so nice to like,
40:09
talk to you, face-to-face. I'm not just digitally.
40:13
Every little thing I literally was basically texting every
40:16
during the movie and I'm like, okay, I gotta go but I'm gonna
40:19
text you in an hour. Thank you Avery.
40:28
You're out of costume. Blogcast is hosted and produced
40:31
by Elizabeth Joy, glass, and Spencer Williams.
40:35
Our audio engineering and editing is done by Dan White.
40:39
Follow us on Instagram, at the art of costume pod or visit the
40:44
art of costume blogcast.com. For all blogcast updates, if you
40:49
want to support the show, go to the art of costume.com / part
40:54
store. More costume reviews deep Dives
40:57
and interviews, head over to the art of costume.com a Blog
41:02
dedicated to highlighting the best and costume design.
40:55
More costume reviews deep Dives and interviews, head over to the
41:00
art of costume.com a Blog dedicated to highlighting the
41:04
best and costume design.