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NFL Network Chief National Reporter STEVE WYCHE joins the show! · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  any steak. And we love him.
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  He hasn't been on the show for a while.
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  The last time he was on the show, me and him went back and
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  forth, him with Matthew Stafford, me, Philip Rivers.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, if you don't know him now, you do.
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  We are now talking to NFL Network's chief national
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  reporter, Steve Watch. Steve, what's up, man?
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  What's up man? I love the energy.
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  Good stuff, man. I forgot about that
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  conversation. Well, he.
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  Mentioned it already, Steve, don't worry.
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  That's why I love you, Steve, because the last time you were
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  on the show, we went back and forth and it was so fitting when
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  we got, we got a message from your agent saying that you were
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  coming on tonight saying, hey, wait a second.
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  The last time me and Steve went back and forth with us about a
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  year and a half ago, and Philip Rivers was what, 1 1/2 years
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  away from being a Hall of Fame candidate?
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  And now we got to wait another five years.
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  Steve, what's going on here? But it is an amazing story.
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  I never would have thought that Philip Rivers was going to come
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  out of retirement. He definitely looked gold.
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  He definitely looked fat. But for a guy to come out who
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  had no pre season, no back end of practices, he really just
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  came out and said give me the ball, I'm throwing it.
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  What did you think of the three games that we saw with the 1:00
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  we call Phil? I thought it was amazing.
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  I mean, to come in, like you said, under those circumstances,
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  like we always hear, like it takes, you know, this much time
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  for a guy to get ready and to get seasoned.
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  And the way he came in and he worked with not only the
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  coaching staff, but the other 10 guys in the huddle, and you're
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  making line checks and you're getting guys all set up here and
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  there. It was incredible, not only how
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  he played, but the way the other guys responded to him.
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  So much about success at quarterback is how the other
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  guys respond to you. Do they trust you?
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  And he was like a breath of fresh air.
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  And so I think the fact that the rest of his teammates were like,
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  OK, this guy knows what he's talking about.
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  He knows how to play football, Let's go.
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  That's why they were so competitive, even though they
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  didn't win those ball games. That was a good football team
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  that just got sidetracked and in the mud.
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  But I thought it was incredibly exciting, you know, for, for him
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  to be able to come in and do what he did.
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  ABBA Riley Leonard, we, we've had him on the show.
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  I've been interviewing Riley Leonard since he was eighth
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  grade and he's slowly but surely become the number one
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  quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts.
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  I, I think having a guy like Philip Rivers a, a future
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  possible, as you would say, never Hall of Famer.
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  I I mean, having that guy on the sidelines giving you some
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  pointers, giving you some information that maybe you're
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  not getting from the coaching staff or your quarterback coach,
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  that's pretty amazing too. Absolutely.
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  And he's he's going to continue to give it because Philip Rivers
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  is just that type of human being, you know, just to
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  continue to offer that type of advice.
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  And I've got to tell you this about the Hall of Fame stuff,
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  these three games that's going to add some serious mystique to
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  his already established lore. So this may this may help him
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  get in when he becomes eligible in five years.
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  Because I tell you what, the one thing right now, there's going
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  to be such a log jam, a first time eligible guys coming up for
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  the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He might not have got in for
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  five years anyway. I'm smelling a nice juicy steak.
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  I'm smelling it. I'm smelling it.
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  I'll, I'll transition to the other end of that debate you
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  guys had. The 1 you were advocating for
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  was Matthew Stafford, who it looked like the Rams might have
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  traded at the start of the season.
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  The Giants were very interested in the Steelers were very
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  interested in him and the Rams give him an extension.
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  He had those back problems and now he's a case for the MVP this
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  year. I know a lot of people like
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  Drake May. What are your thoughts about
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  that whole situation with Matthew Stafford and the Rams?
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  This. Year it's going to be.
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  I think Stafford probably ends up winning it.
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  You know, he was the first team All Pro and he was it was
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  fantastic this year. I mean, to your point, like I
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  was even out at some of the summer workouts where he was
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  just doing nothing but throwing like a weighted baseball against
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  the wall. They just didn't know if he was
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  going to be able to throw a football the way he normally
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  throws it. There you go, Jabba.
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  Like he this is like what he was putting himself through, you
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  know, Clayton Kershaw's old high school catcher, by the way.
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  And so we didn't really know that he was going to be able to
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  come out and do this. And he's been incredible this
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  year. He's been healthy.
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  He's had a rotation of players on the offensive line.
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  He's forced him to have Puka Nakua, but Devante Adams hasn't
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  been there. And I think before, my argument
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  was I don't know if he's a Hall of Famer.
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  I think he is now. I think this, whether they get
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  to the Super Bowl or not, what he just did sealed it for me.
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  You know, he took at his age in overcoming that injury and
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  seeing how many years he's played and seeing how he's
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  handled himself, I don't think there's any doubt that you get
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  in the first ballot. Who knows?
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  I don't know what he's ever, you know, who he, who he's going to
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  be going in with because he may play another year.
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  I, I frankly hope so at the level he's playing at.
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  But he, he has really put the cherry on top for me.
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  If I was if I was swaying in the other direction.
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  So Steve, you, you brought up something too, and I'm going to
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  stay on the on the Hall of Fame side of it.
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  Do you think Phillip coming back and and how you prefaced it
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  saying maybe this, this cemented a different aspect because it
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  may have taken him five years like you said.
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  Do you think though too, that that leaves like the last thing,
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  like cuz always the first impression is, is the most and
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  then your lasting one when he come back and to do what he did
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  in the eyes of like people that aren't football people be like,
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  well, he didn't win. Was it great?
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  But from your perspective, it's seeing what he did and knowing
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  how important that position is to everybody and them embracing
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  him. Do you think that cements a
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  little bit more? And obviously we don't know the
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  class at the time, but do you think that gives him a little a
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  little bit of edge to to sway those votes?
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  Because we're humans and like, can we see it?
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  And it's like, man, this dude was a high school football
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  coach. Nothing.
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  And everybody embraced him. They saw what it was.
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  And now it's like he's that father figure.
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  I mean, he's got 10 kids, so he knows how to lead anyways.
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  And now he's comes back in, didn't have any camp, didn't
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  have anything with them, but they all embraced him where it's
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  like, man, this dude is the real deal.
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  Like his numbers are always going to be his numbers.
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  Those are never going to change. Do you think that's cemented him
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  a little bit more? I, I think it helps.
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  There's a debate, you know, when you talk to coaches and people
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  who played against Phillip, like his teammates, all these guys,
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  Ladanian, you know, Gates, all these guys, but he, he should be
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  in. But a lot of team, a lot of
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  teams who played against him were like, we used to love
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  playing against Phillip because we knew in the fourth quarter he
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  was going to give us an opportunity to get a pick,
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  right? He never got to the Super Bowl.
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  He didn't have an abundance of all pros or, or pro Bowls.
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  But you know, Drew Brees, I think only has one first team
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  all pro because he played at the same time as Aaron Rodgers and
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  Tom Brady and all these guys. So that really can't be held
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  against him. So I I do think this helps.
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  But here's another interesting aspect to think about this five
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  years from now, when he becomes eligible again, there's probably
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  going to be somewhat of a shift in the voters, right?
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  Some of the guys may age out, may retire, may not want to do
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  this. There could be a younger voting
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  group who saw this. Like you said, with the recency
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  bias of this, they, this was a lasting memory.
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  They hadn't seen him for five years before.
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  Then all of a sudden he shows up out of nowhere and poof, waves
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  almost a magic wand and almost gets them into the playoffs.
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  And and so I do think that that reasons he buys is something
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  that could that could sway some of the new voters that come into
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  the room. We did.
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  Do you think he did it too because he gets that extra three
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  years of insurance now too? Yes, no, he gets the extra 5.
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  He gets it for five and and it's crazy as that sound.
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  I don't think that was his driving purpose.
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  He's got the great relationship with Shane Syke and he loves
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  playing the game. But you know this, you know this
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  being a former ballplayer yourself, how guys try to coach
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  or stay involved as long as they can to maintain those benefits
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  and to add to that pension for as long as they can all the
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  time. Coaches I got to get in 25.
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  If I get in 25, I'm good players, OK?
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  If I can coach for 10 now, it'll give me 25, whatever the number
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  is that they want to hit for them to retire peacefully.
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  So trust me, that is an extra fringe benefit that he did not
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  blindly approach this with. Well, I know I I waited till I
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  got 10. So I was fully vested.
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  I, I retired after I got, I got, I got into my 11th year, but
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  days wise it was almost like 10 to the day.
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  There you go. We are talking to NFL Networks
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  Chief National Reporter Steve White.
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  She's done NFL game day game warnings, game day mornings
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  Saturday and at noon Sunday, 9:00 AM on NFL Network.
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  Speedy is posting it up on on every single platform over here,
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  so I'm reading it. But Steve, we look at obviously
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  the weekend on Wild Card weekend.
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  It's the best time for football because you get the chance to
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  see the best football of the year.
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  And Josh Allen to me has been the face of this weekend.
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  And why? Because there's no Lamar
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  Jackson, there's no Patrick Mahomes, there's no Joe Burrow.
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  They're gone. They're not even playing in the
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  playoffs. You have Josh friggin Allen,
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  these guys that I mentioned, you can argue all the top four, top
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  three quarterbacks, the faces of the NFL right now.
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  When when you look at obviously what Josh Allen has brought as a
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  player since he's come from college, Wyoming, and now what
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  he's done over the last eight or nine years, specifically for the
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  Buffalo Bills and, and trying to get to that, that that chance
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  of, of winning the Lombardi Trophy.
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  Do you believe that this year is his best chance to get to that
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  platform? I understand the argument, but I
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  hate the argument. I don't think this is the best
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  Bills team he's been on, and I do think some of the other teams
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  might be just as stout as some of those Ravens and Chiefs in
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  Denver is. No freaking joke, man.
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  I mean, there there, there's a couple teams that that they
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  could face that could put him on the playoffs and you can't sit
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  there and say, oh, well, he blew it.
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  His windows closed. I I just think that because this
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  isn't the best team when he has one of those better teams with a
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  better defense. And we had the Micahi Jordan
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  Poyer safety tan and playing together in their primes, taking
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  the ball away and things like I thought I think those teams were
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  better when he actually had wide receivers.
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  So I think it'd be unfair to judge the greatness of Josh
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  Allen if he doesn't get to the Super Bowl just because Burrow,
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  Lamar and Patch from homes or I think that would be unfair.
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  That said, no team asked more of their quarterback than the Bills
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  ask of Josh Allen. When all else fails, 17, go get
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  your brains beat out on the way to the end zone.
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  But if you can run over three players crossing the goal line,
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  we'll take it. But that's, that's the truth.
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  And I again, you're right. I, we went back and forth that
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  this is probably Steve the, the worst defense he's had since
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  he's been there. This, this is not the same
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  defense he's had. But what Josh Allen gives to the
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  Buffalo Bills and what Josh Allen delivers every single
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  playoff weekend is something that we don't see a lot of
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  quarterbacks do. You mentioned Bo Nicks.
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  Am I trusting Bo Nicks as good as Sean Payton is, as good as
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  the Broncos defenses all season long?
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  Am I going to trust their offense that they're going to be
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  able to put it in the end zone? I don't know.
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  I know Josh Allen's going to find a way to put the ball in
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  the end zone. That to me is why I I would give
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  more to advantage going into the divisional game to Josh Allen
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  and the Buffalo Bills then Bo Nicks and Sean Payton.
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  I wouldn't just because what's on the other side, Bo Nicks,
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  Nick Benito, Derek Allen, you know that defense.
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  I mean, as as great as Josh Allen can be, there are certain
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  things that if he can overcome, certain things like that, no
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  turnovers, play a clean game, salute to him.
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  Again, I'm not taking anything away from Josh Allen.
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  I'm taking away the Buffalo Bills as a whole.
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  Or why I don't think it'd be fair to judge Josh Allen if he
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  doesn't make it and I look, I'm all for it if he does.
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  I I think he's one of the greatest players I've seen in my
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  lifetime. Especially the physical abuse
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  that he takes is like, you know, the hack a Shaq almost, you know
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  when he got filed 10 times harder than anybody else and
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  still get didn't get fouls called on him.
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  But. He answers his no every time
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  too. Every time, man.
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  I mean, look what happened this week.
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  They took James Cook out of this game.
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  They took him out. No team's been able to do that.
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  And he's still delivered. And, you know, so salute to him,
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  you know, and here's the key stat for the Buffalo Bills that
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  people don't talk about enough. They possess the ball longer
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  than any team in the NFL. They average almost 34 minutes
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  to gain time of possession. That's Josh Allen, so it's
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  pushing it. Or on 3rd and 11, finding a way
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  to get a first down, right. That's them going on 8910 play
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  drives over and over again as to not expose their defense and to
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  find ways to get points on the board because of his will,
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  because of his skill and because of his toughness.
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  So I want to shift to one of the other games, the 49ers and the
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  Eagles. The 49ers winning that game with
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  a lot of injuries. They lose George Kittle for the
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  for the rest of the season, maybe for next season as well.
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  And then the Eagles on the other side.
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  We've heard the drama with A.J. Brown and Nick Siriani.
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  Like, what do you think is the fallout for both of these teams,
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  the Niners advancing to play the Seahawks and the Eagles and
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  offseason? Some questions.
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  Wow. I mean, it's great.
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  So let's talk about Philadelphia first.
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  I mean, look, their offense has done this all season long.
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  They're not creative. The offensive line couldn't
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  necessarily get the push to spring Saquon.
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  I, I still don't know why. After watching Kenneth Walker go
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  for about $1.50 on on San Francisco the week before, I
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  don't know why you don't get Saquon the ball 30 * a game.
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  He's going to hit one. I, I, I don't get it.
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  As great as Robert Salas game is, with as much heart as those
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  Niners defenders play with, I, I, I just don't get it.
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  I haven't gotten it all season. So I mean, I'm sure the Eagles
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  have got to make a change in offensive coordinator.
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  If they don't, that's going to be an issue.
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  That's going to be a big, big problem.
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  A.J. Brown, I think, I think he's
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  probably bad attitude. He's way out of town one way or
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  another. I I just don't think you can
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  tolerate that anymore, especially when he doesn't make
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  plays, when he has an opportunity to make a play at
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  the end of that game. And then for the San Francisco
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  49ers, I would say, man, losing Kiddo might just be one injury
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  too much, but they're so familiar having played Seattle
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  twice this year, the first game of the season, last game of the
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  regular season, but they played them two weeks ago.
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  It was a 13 to 3 game. That could have flipped that.
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  Christian McCaffrey been able to hang on to that deflected pass
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  that came his way that ended up in a Seattle interception near
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  the goal line. That was a 13 to 3 game.
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  I mean, the Niners defence that Seattle made was was inept in
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  the red zone a little bit. They had opportunities to really
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  stretch this game open, but that familiarity is going to make
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  this a really, really good game up in Seattle where the twelves
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  are back. They're back to the Legion of
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  Boom days. Man, I, I was at a game against
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  the Rams and they made the big comeback against the Rams and I
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  was like, man, this is as loud as I heard it back when Russell
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  Wilson and Doug Baldwin and Marshawn were doing their things
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  up here too. So that's going to be a great
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  game. They just ended the season with
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  them and we kind of saw it in the Bears and Packers game.
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  They played three times in five weeks.
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  Do you think that's playing that?
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  And obviously I never played the game of football, so I don't
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  know if if that familiarity goes like with this game as much.
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  But when it's that short of it, do you have enough time to
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  change? And obviously being in Seattle
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  and the Niners going there, because now if the Bears lose,
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  then the Niners would have hosted and so now happened to go
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  there. Do you think it hurts or hinders
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  their aspect? And from the other side, like
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  they just played them, do you think there's an advantage or
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  disadvantage in going there? Well, it's, it's absolutely an
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  advantage to be a home field, especially, you know, 49ers
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  going to fly across the country to Philadelphia.
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  They got to fly all the way back to California and have a short
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  week. So you know the physical toll is
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  real, but it's almost like playing on a Thursday night,
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  right? If the physical toll is real.
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  But again, this is where the familiarity of playing one
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  another twice a season and in such a close period of time
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  helps. You talk to players, you talk to
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  coaches in these scenarios and they're like, look, there's a
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  few things we can tweak. We can go back in our playbook
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  and and find some things that we haven't used in a while
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  offensively to try to catch them in a look maybe they haven't
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  seen. But at some point it just come
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  down to players executing. They know each other well.
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  We know what they want to do, they know what we want to do,
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  who's going to be tougher, who's not going to turn the ball over
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  and who's going to take advantage when they've got
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  opportunities to put points on the.
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  Board Steve. They hate each other.
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  The Packers and the Bears can't stand each other.
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  You saw Ben Johnson, I love it too.
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  And Lafleur. I I, I feel bad for Lafleur
• 18:42
  because after the game I go in and I feel bad for Jordan Love
• 18:45
  because Jordan Love was standing there trying to speak to the
• 18:48
  press and the first thing the press attacks him with, Do you
• 18:51
  think Lafleur should be the coach next year?
• 18:53
  And how do you how do you respond to that after having a
• 18:55
  great game? You're one of the reasons why
• 18:58
  your team was still in the game. Your team doesn't show up in the
• 19:00
  second-half. You do.
• 19:02
  And the first thing you're going to ask me is should the coach
• 19:05
  should be there? Should my coach be there?
• 19:07
  How do you answer a question like that after losing a game
• 19:10
  and and trying to move on in a divisional game?
• 19:12
  I mean, how do you, how do you respond to that?
• 19:14
  If you were him, how would you respond to that?
• 19:17
  Well, I think I think he handled it well, you know, by saying,
• 19:20
  yeah, he I, he should be. He, he he stayed with me.
• 19:22
  Remember, this is a quarterback. Let's let's have a longer memory
• 19:26
  here. Who his first two years and he's
• 19:29
  backing up Aaron Rodgers. People thought he couldn't play.
• 19:33
  He can't do this. He's he's a he's a flop.
• 19:35
  He was a terrible pick. And through the coaching and the
• 19:38
  development, they have turned him into one of the better
• 19:42
  quarterbacks in the NFL. So Jordan Love, I'm sure
• 19:45
  respects that. Had you asked him this couple
• 19:47
  years ago, you probably said, yeah, get him out of here.
• 19:48
  This guy doesn't like me. But now this guy helped make him
• 19:51
  into a great quarterback. I mean, Matt Lafleur, I'll just
• 19:53
  talk about him. Them letting him go.
• 19:55
  I dare them, right? Find somebody better than him
• 19:59
  and then watch him go. To Atlanta or to Miami or
• 20:02
  someplace else to start winning more games than you.
• 20:05
  I mean, that's that's what will happen.
• 20:06
  He's a very, very good coach. And that's that goes, that goes
• 20:09
  to Ben Johnson too. If you think about it, Ben
• 20:12
  Johnson was handed a job where we had Matt Eberfluse there and
• 20:17
  Matt Eberfluse, he, he was one and done as a defensive
• 20:20
  coordinator with the Cowboys. So we we all know he can't, even
• 20:23
  though I think he's a pretty decent defensive coordinator, I
• 20:26
  don't think he's as bad as everybody says he is.
• 20:28
  But to watch Ben Johnson really develop a guy like Caleb
• 20:32
  Williams, who I believe is a star, but he needed the right
• 20:36
  guy in place that's going to help him develop him.
• 20:38
  You could see the difference if if Matt Lafleur leaves, does
• 20:42
  that help Jordan Love? Or does that hurt Jordan Love as
• 20:45
  much as we've seen Ben Johnson, how much he's helped Kayla
• 20:48
  Williams? It's great.
• 20:50
  That's such a great way. That's such a great point you
• 20:52
  make because you first time you know who'd come in to replace
• 20:54
  him. But it's not like they're a bad
• 20:58
  football team. I mean, you lose your best
• 21:00
  defensive player for a couple weeks, your your defense can't
• 21:03
  find any traction. You know, you're playing a
• 21:05
  familiar opponent at their field and you just don't make plays
• 21:09
  down the stretch. Not not that it's Jordan Love's
• 21:11
  fault or Matt Lafleur's fault. I mean, the defense got hit with
• 21:14
  some incredible plays by Caleb Williams.
• 21:16
  And you know, to go to the Ben Johnson part of it again, we
• 21:19
  have to go broader here organizationally.
• 21:21
  What did the Bears do in the offseason?
• 21:23
  And when I got 3 stud veteran offensive lineman, what is Ben?
• 21:27
  What did Ben Johnson have in Detroit?
• 21:29
  A stud offensive line. So I tell you what, there's a
• 21:32
  big thought bubble here, guys. If you want to build a
• 21:35
  championship team, maybe go get a good offensive line because
• 21:39
  right now Seattle's got a pretty good one.
• 21:41
  The Rams have a pretty good one. The Niners have a pretty good
• 21:44
  one. Look what New England did.
• 21:47
  They went out and drafted offensive lineman and got
• 21:49
  offensive line. Guess what?
• 21:50
  They win the AFC East. So I think that's kind of a
• 21:55
  basic formula to success in the NFL.
• 21:58
  I want to shift gears a little bit to the the coaching of the
• 22:00
  big coaching firing last week. That was John Harbaugh after 18
• 22:03
  years with the Ravens and subsequently after Mike McDaniel
• 22:06
  fired by the Dolphins. I'm under the impression that
• 22:08
  maybe that could be an interesting target for them.
• 22:10
  What do you think about the Ravens decision, first of all,
• 22:13
  to fire Harbaugh? There was maybe some tension
• 22:15
  with Lamar Jackson maybe. And does John Harbaugh take a
• 22:17
  year off? Does he coach again?
• 22:18
  And if So, what do you think is the best spot for him?
• 22:21
  Let's go to the end. He's going to coach again.
• 22:23
  That that's in the family genetics, bro.
• 22:24
  When you come on, when you're a Harbaugh baby, dad coached Jim
• 22:28
  Coach, John Coach, I mean, that's in the DNA.
• 22:30
  You know, when they do the swab right there, they're going to be
• 22:33
  a football coach. You don't even have to go to
• 22:34
  ancestry to figure that out when your last name is Harbaugh.
• 22:37
  But who's going to coach again? It's interesting because when
• 22:42
  John Harbaugh came out this weekend or his agent or whomever
• 22:45
  and said he's only going to talk to a couple of teams, I
• 22:50
  immediately was like, huh, is Miami off the board here?
• 22:53
  Because he interviewed with Atlanta tonight and Atlanta just
• 22:57
  established the type of structure he came from
• 22:59
  organizationally in Baltimore, Matt Ryan's a football
• 23:02
  president, football operations, much like Ozzie Newsome has been
• 23:04
  there for years, right? They've got, they're going to
• 23:06
  put AGM in place and that he just has to go in and coach and
• 23:10
  have some say there's a quarterback there, right?
• 23:14
  So there's certain things he can do.
• 23:15
  He'll probably have significant autonomy.
• 23:17
  And for Atlanta, it's, you know, Arthur Blank.
• 23:19
  I used to be the beat writer down there for years.
• 23:22
  He's always hired first time coaches.
• 23:24
  Raheem Morris was the first head coach he's hired that had been a
• 23:26
  previous head coach. So to come come in with the
• 23:29
  gravitas that John Harbaugh has, that would be significant for
• 23:33
  that organization. Not to say he's going to go
• 23:36
  there because apparently the Giants are hot on his tail.
• 23:39
  You got a quarterback with the Giants.
• 23:41
  You got defensive players, you, you, you make a couple right
• 23:45
  decisions coaching and and staffing that thing up and get a
• 23:47
  couple players, they can flip that real quick.
• 23:50
  Because you see, the NFC East could be up for grabs at at any
• 23:53
  point. So it it all really depends on
• 23:56
  him. You know, just something tells
• 23:57
  me the Miami situation might not tickle his fancy that much right
• 24:02
  now. Well, he said he's going to
• 24:03
  narrow his teams down. Maybe he talks to them.
• 24:06
  But I was with you when they fired McDaniel.
• 24:08
  I thought, OK, Harbaugh's going there.
• 24:09
  They tried to get his brother a couple years ago, but maybe his
• 24:12
  brother said, you know what you might want it might not want to
• 24:15
  go there, even with all the Michigan ties that are happening
• 24:18
  in Miami. All right, so this this is the
• 24:22
  question right now. We finished fun wild card,
• 24:26
  right? If you have to pick one to win
• 24:30
  the Super Bowl right now, who is it?
• 24:34
  So I got to pick a team to win the Super Bowl.
• 24:35
  Right now I'd say the Seattle Seahawks.
• 24:37
  Wow. I, I think, I think defensively
• 24:42
  they are as real as he gets at all three levels.
• 24:46
  Their defensive line, they leave carnage on the field every play.
• 24:50
  Got some really good linebackers that fit the scheme.
• 24:54
  And they've got 2 aces that no other team has.
• 24:56
  And that's Devin Witherspoon and that's the rookie safety Nick
• 25:00
  Eamon Wari, right? They've got two guys you can
• 25:02
  play anywhere. Whatever you try to do personnel
• 25:05
  wise, three tight ends, 4 wise, whatever, doesn't matter.
• 25:09
  They got you. Now you may say Sam Darnold's a
• 25:12
  wild card. He is.
• 25:13
  He is. Every team's got some type of
• 25:15
  wild card. To go back to the Josh Allen
• 25:17
  argument, he's probably the most sturdy quarterback him and
• 25:20
  Matthew Stafford left in the playoffs.
• 25:23
  But looking at how complete Seattle is and just kind of
• 25:30
  seeing how they play, I think they can line up against anybody
• 25:35
  anywhere and do their. Thing you're going to give me
• 25:36
  Ajita. That's what you're going to do,
• 25:38
  Steve. You're going to give me Ajita.
• 25:40
  I this is this is what happens when Steve watch comes on this
• 25:43
  show. I get Ajita.
• 25:45
  That's that's how I feel. Sam Darnold, who was a Jets
• 25:48
  quarterback, who by the way, the New York Jets drafted as their
• 25:52
  third pick a couple years ago in the Saint Claude Barkley draft,
• 25:55
  is going to win a Super Bowl. Do you know how upset I will be
• 25:58
  when I watch him raise that Lombardi trophy?
• 26:01
  How sick I will be as a Jet fan, I would be sick to my stomach
• 26:06
  and that's that to me. And I love McDonald, but believe
• 26:09
  it or not, I think McDonald is coach of the year.
• 26:11
  I think he's been the best coach in the NFL all season long.
• 26:15
  The transition coming from a Baltimore Ravens team, a lot of
• 26:18
  people question his thought of of the process being a defensive
• 26:21
  coordinator under John Harbaugh. But you can see the defense ever
• 26:26
  since he's left, this hasn't been the same defense.
• 26:28
  So you know how good McDonald has been for the Baltimore
• 26:31
  Ravens in John Horrible. And then you look at the
• 26:34
  transition, you get over there, you add some old Jets defensive
• 26:37
  players. You got a Little Mix of all
• 26:39
  these veteran players and some youth.
• 26:42
  And then they have one of the best defenses in the league.
• 26:44
  They have one of the best running games in the league.
• 26:46
  Oh, and by the way, they bring in Sam Donald for three years,
• 26:49
  hundred a $100 million from the Minnesota Vikings, who, by the
• 26:52
  way, absolutely struck out on that move because they went with
• 26:55
  JJ McCarthy. And you're sitting here laughing
• 26:58
  to the bank, Seattle, going to the Super Bowl.
• 27:02
  Very, very good. Thank you, Steve.
• 27:03
  That's my golf clap of the day. Thank you for making me even
• 27:07
  sicker as a New York Jet. See, at least they won't win the
• 27:10
  Super Bowl with Jamal Adams on the team, though.
• 27:12
  Sick, Absolutely sick. By the way, I got a good
• 27:16
  question for you right now because I am really, really sick
• 27:19
  of the New York Jet fans. Aaron Glenn is sitting there at
• 27:23
  their head as a head coach now. I like Aaron Glenn.
• 27:26
  I think Aaron Glenn deserves at least three years to build his
• 27:30
  own team. You can't just throw them away.
• 27:32
  I I mean, if that was the case, why didn't the Lions do that
• 27:35
  with Dan Campbell? They could have left Dan
• 27:37
  Campbell and, and tell Dan Campbell to take a hike.
• 27:39
  And Dan Campbell was coach of the year last year and one of
• 27:41
  the best NFL coaches right now in the league.
• 27:43
  So my thought here is The Jets should give this guy a chance.
• 27:47
  But everybody else's thought is the guy sucks.
• 27:50
  He can't speak to the media and he doesn't know how to develop
• 27:53
  A-Team. I want to hear from the great
• 27:55
  Steve watch. Do you believe that if you give
• 27:59
  this guy a couple of years and put the proper players in place
• 28:04
  to run this defense and run this team that they can succeed?
• 28:07
  Steve? We'll give you a take here here
• 28:09
  here's here's. What I'll say is we'll see.
• 28:11
  It all depends on the quarterback, you know, It really
• 28:13
  does. And First off, for Jets fans, to
• 28:16
  have such a high bar. Excuse me, what?
• 28:23
  Excuse me talking about. But look, organizationally,
• 28:28
  clearly they've got some things they've got to fix.
• 28:30
  It's not like they haven't had good talent there.
• 28:33
  We look at all the great talent. They're like the Clippers back
• 28:36
  in the Donald Sterling era when they were drafting top five year
• 28:39
  after year after year and they couldn't win any ball games.
• 28:42
  I I mean, organizationally, they've got to figure something
• 28:45
  out. But Aaron Glenn, I don't know if
• 28:48
  he's going to be a good coach or not.
• 28:49
  This year was a disaster, but they couldn't figure out the
• 28:52
  quarterback had a bunch of injuries decide to bail on
• 28:54
  sauce. So now they're loaded with draft
• 28:57
  picks loaded. So now let's see, let's give
• 29:00
  them a chance. But anybody who thought that
• 29:03
  this team was going to be any good coming into the season,
• 29:06
  when they made it abundantly clear that they weren't coming
• 29:11
  into the season, they were kind of like, hey, guys, this is
• 29:15
  going to take a minute. You know, we didn't go out and
• 29:18
  get 30 year old Tom Brady. We went out and got Justin
• 29:21
  Fields. It's going to take a minute.
• 29:25
  You know, we got, we got to build this thing.
• 29:27
  Oh, yeah, They went out and got a pretty good offensive lineman,
• 29:29
  you know, and Armand Membu, you know, you know, it's going to
• 29:32
  take time, Jets fans, you still might be a year away from being
• 29:38
  a year away. Thank you.
• 29:40
  Thank you, Steve. A year away, film members.
• 29:42
  Will be in the Hall of Fame. Listen.
• 29:44
  If that was the case, every single year is a year away for a
• 29:47
  Jet fan. Think about it.
• 29:49
  How many quarterbacks do The Jets have to go through?
• 29:51
  Hey, you know what, let's just bring, let's try to make a trade
• 29:54
  and bring Joe Burrow here because that's what all the Jet
• 29:57
  fans want. What the hell is wrong with you
• 29:59
  guys? We doesn't want that.
• 30:00
  I I mean that. I mean everybody wants it.
• 30:03
  It's not going to happen. It's a Jet fans fantasy.
• 30:06
  You know, I can tell you a lot of fantasies I have, but I don't
• 30:08
  want to scare people off on this show.
• 30:10
  So I mean it's speed. He's got a lot of different
• 30:14
  scary fantasies as well. But I mean, come on, as a jet
• 30:17
  fan, you sit here today and you wonder and I and I can't stand
• 30:20
  the Raiders organization because they're sitting pretty.
• 30:22
  They're going to get Mendoza because by the way, they decided
• 30:25
  to sit out Crosby and Brock Powers.
• 30:29
  I mean, it makes me sick. The finally The Jets have a
• 30:31
  chance. I was there at the Heisman
• 30:32
  Trophy. I was happy.
• 30:34
  I loved when he went out there and Times Square raising his
• 30:37
  trophy for all the jet fans training and screaming JETS,
• 30:40
  jet, jets, Jets. I was there, ladies and
• 30:42
  gentlemen, and I got sick because I knew it was never
• 30:46
  going to happen because that is very Jet esque.
• 30:52
  Thank you. Thank you for all you stupid jet
• 30:55
  media guys, all you guys out there that make me sick to my
• 30:58
  stomach. I'm going to have Ajita.
• 31:00
  I, I might as well sit on the ball and have some esque X
• 31:04
  slacks or something because I am sick to my stomach.
• 31:07
  I'm going to go into another year with epic proportion of
• 31:11
  bull crap. This team sticks and I'm tired
• 31:13
  of it. I don't even want to be a Jet
• 31:15
  fan anymore. I'd rather be I, I I'll be a
• 31:18
  Jacksonville Jaguar fan even though I can't stand the
• 31:20
  Gremlin. I can't have to treat him.
• 31:23
  Travis Hunter. And I would rather be rooting
• 31:26
  for that team because at least Cohen and and I don't know if
• 31:30
  Trevor Lawrence has anything to smart about but hey, $55 million
• 31:34
  does. I am sick to my stomach.
• 31:35
  Steve as a Jeff. There he is.
• 31:37
  There's the gremlin. I gave him the nickname Travis
• 31:40
  the gremlin. I even forgot his name.
• 31:44
  Travis the Gremlin hunter. I I'm losing my mind tonight.
• 31:48
  I I told the boys before the show, Steve, you watch, I'm
• 31:51
  going to lose it tonight. I'm going to lose it.
• 31:54
  And when I lose it, I I can't even express where I'm going to
• 31:57
  go with it. So now, ladies and gentlemen,
• 31:59
  you know where I'm going with Steve White, who owes me well,
• 32:02
  is going to owe me a steak dinner in five years because you
• 32:05
  know who's going to the whole Hall of Fame.
• 32:06
  And by the way, Matthew Stafford is absolutely a Hall of Fame.
• 32:09
  You are absolutely right. Yeah.
• 32:10
  Absolutely. Yeah.
• 32:11
  I. Flipped.
• 32:12
  I flipped there you. Go but but Steve, I'm on the.
• 32:15
  Fence. I'm on the fence.
• 32:15
  But he's a, he's a Canton guy, all of that.
• 32:17
  Steve, let's, let's, let's give him a little bit.
• 32:19
  Do you think Aaron Glenn is the right dude for that team?
• 32:22
  He doesn't know. It's hard to tell.
• 32:24
  It's hard to tell Java because I thought I thought Robert Solo is
• 32:28
  the right guy. Bampy, bampy.
• 32:33
  Here you go. Again.
• 32:34
  Bampy, you know what I'm saying? Like.
• 32:36
  After a year or two, I, I know Robert Solo, I think he's a damn
• 32:41
  good leader. I think he's a damn good coach.
• 32:44
  But there, there's been some things that have happened.
• 32:46
  There's been a lot of good players.
• 32:48
  All I'm going to say, I'll put it like this, I think there's
• 32:50
  been some smart, talented coaches to come through there.
• 32:53
  There's been a lot of talent to go through there.
• 32:56
  They end up getting fired, the players end up getting let go
• 32:58
  or. Zach Wilson, Steve, please.
• 33:01
  There's a couple of constants. Zach Wilson, you want to talk
• 33:05
  about good players? There he is.
• 33:06
  There's Bambi. All right.
• 33:07
  Hey, Zach Wilson, Mr. Mother, whatever you want to call them.
• 33:13
  I, I, I was not specific, but I'm just saying you talked about
• 33:16
  Sam Darnold earlier. He's he's been pretty good since
• 33:19
  he's left there. There been a couple guys who've
• 33:21
  done pretty well since they've left there.
• 33:23
  Thank you. Thank you, Steve.
• 33:25
  There are a couple constants. Again, that building itself
• 33:27
  needs to kind of, I don't know, someone needs to come by with
• 33:31
  some fairy dust or whatever. Me.
• 33:33
  Me. They should hire me to be the
• 33:36
  spokesman for the New York Jets. Me to go out there to the media.
• 33:40
  Yeah, that's really good. I I mean, come on that.
• 33:42
  Going over real well. It will go very well because you
• 33:45
  know what, I will go to the media, Steve, and I will tell
• 33:48
  the. Media we will get.
• 33:49
  Canceled we would get. Canceled we would get.
• 33:51
  Canceled. First of all, I'm
• 33:53
  straightforward. I'm honest, I have personality,
• 33:56
  I have pizzazz, and I would tell all the media people over and
• 34:00
  over again, because I've done it.
• 34:01
  I've gotten into arguments with a lot of media people, people
• 34:04
  over the years, some people that think that they know what
• 34:06
  they're talking about and I've called them out on it.
• 34:09
  And then I called them out and actually dropped the hammer on
• 34:12
  them. And then they try to backtrack
• 34:14
  and try their try to find their way out of the maze.
• 34:17
  My thought here is the New York Jets as an organization is a
• 34:21
  failure and the only way they're going to get out of this fail,
• 34:24
  failure to launch launch is if they find themselves a
• 34:26
  quarterback. Do not, do not reach in this
• 34:30
  year's draft for a quarterback. Wait until next year where you
• 34:33
  have a boatload of picks and a boatload of talent.
• 34:37
  That's the way I go. What do you think, Steve?
• 34:40
  Do The Jets draft in a court, draft a quarterback this year or
• 34:42
  you go veteran and get a quarterback next year where you
• 34:45
  can launch a possibility of maybe getting lucky and getting
• 34:49
  arch or one of those guys. Yeah, yeah.
• 34:53
  Look, it's always a risk saying I'll wait until the next year
• 34:57
  because look at how many guys we thought there's going to be 6
• 34:59
  guys coming out this year who are going to be great and none
• 35:01
  of them materialized, right? So, so you really don't know.
• 35:04
  That's always a risk. And as a coach, you don't know
• 35:07
  if you're going to be back, especially with that
• 35:09
  organization, you know, who likes to reload.
• 35:12
  I mean that that revolver barrel is always turning, man.
• 35:16
  So I, I, I would think that they would probably go veteran four
• 35:21
  to five things the other way based on some of the guys coming
• 35:23
  out of the draft. And look, you, you may call me
• 35:26
  crazy, but there's going to be some guys on the market, be it
• 35:29
  Kyler Murray, be it Tua, be it whomever, right, Mac Jones, I
• 35:33
  mean, whomever you may not, you may not like it, but team teams
• 35:39
  have done worse. Teams have found ways to, hey,
• 35:41
  Kirk Cousins, you know, bring, bring Kirk O'chain's up there.
• 35:45
  You never, you never really know.
• 35:47
  And that's where with all these graphics and everything, you
• 35:50
  would hope when you talk about transparency that they at least
• 35:54
  express to you their philosophy of what they plan to do.
• 36:00
  And that's where a lot of losing teams get into trouble.
• 36:03
  Like when you watch the Raiders this year, like, what are they
• 36:06
  doing? Like, like, what is their
• 36:07
  offensive philosophy? They have Ashton Genti, but they
• 36:09
  got Gino throwing it 40 times, right?
• 36:13
  And and so you're you're just you're trying to figure out what
• 36:17
  you are. And that's what Aaron Glenn and
• 36:18
  his staff need to figure out. Like, what are they?
• 36:20
  Are we going to bang on defense and just let our offense figure
• 36:24
  out over time like the Broncos have done?
• 36:27
  Because it works to a point. So we'll see.
• 36:30
  So thank you. JETS, jets, jets.
• 36:34
  No, JETS sucks, sucks, sucks. OK, that's all I'm going to say.
• 36:38
  And by the way, all the media people, you know, and that's
• 36:40
  another thing before we let you go, Steve, you've heard a lot of
• 36:43
  media guys, I'm not going to mention any names.
• 36:45
  All these guys before the season, they're sitting there
• 36:48
  and they're speaking about this team and oh, we like this guy.
• 36:51
  And Aaron. Aaron looks like he's the
• 36:53
  perfect guy. Now all of a sudden throw him
• 36:55
  out. He's garbage, he's disposed.
• 36:57
  He's just he's an absolute disposal piece of garbage.
• 37:00
  Everything and and and everybody he keeps pointing out, well,
• 37:03
  look, Bruce Hall don't want to be here.
• 37:04
  Look, this guy don't want to be here.
• 37:06
  That guy Quinton Williams never wanted to be here.
• 37:08
  It this is the problem with Jets media guys.
• 37:10
  They can't stick to the same thought before the season and
• 37:15
  even after the season. How about just let's pray to God
• 37:19
  that this team has some understanding of what they're
• 37:21
  doing because honestly in 50 years and I'm not 50 years old,
• 37:26
  but I'm getting close up there. I might have a heart attack
• 37:29
  before that time comes where I can say, hey, The Jets are
• 37:32
  actually playing in a Super Bowl, so.
• 37:35
  But that's, that's every media core, that's every Media Group.
• 37:38
  I mean, if, if the team doesn't, well, look at the Packers, they
• 37:41
  got one of the best coaches in the NFL and they're, they're,
• 37:43
  they're talking about getting rid of Matt Lafleur.
• 37:46
  And so it's I'll take them. I'm I'm telling you, man, it's,
• 37:50
  it's like, it's, it's what we do.
• 37:52
  We live in the moment, especially now where everything
• 37:55
  is microwaved and everything is is here and there to, to sit
• 37:59
  there and and let a process play out.
• 38:01
  You better keep preaching the process.
• 38:03
  It's going to take a while. It's guy.
• 38:05
  If you don't, you're setting yourself up for that type.
• 38:07
  Steve, would you put a steak in a microwave?
• 38:09
  Let me ask you would you put a steak?
• 38:11
  No, you wouldn't. But guess what?
• 38:13
  The Jet fans would. I know The Jets organization
• 38:16
  would. Yeah, You just put a little bit
• 38:18
  of spice on it. It'll taste a little bit of
• 38:20
  good. The Johnson Johnson Microwave.
• 38:23
  I'm sick to my stomach. Thank you, Steve for making me
• 38:25
  even. I after this interview, after we
• 38:29
  go and we will move on to the show, I will remember this
• 38:31
  interview on Steve. He's the guy that sits back and
• 38:34
  he says, you know, The Jets need to find a quarterback.
• 38:36
  It might be better, it might get better.
• 38:38
  But All in all, this team never finds a way out of it.
• 38:42
  They're stuck in quicksand and they're sinking deep, deep,
• 38:46
  deep. And that's what's going on.
• 38:48
  As a Jet fan, so thank. You, well, you're hanging on to
• 38:50
  them. You're going down with them bro
• 38:52
  31. Routine.
• 38:53
  I'm a Jet fan. I'm a real Jet fan, and I
• 38:56
  actually root on root for the Eagles because I grew up a
• 38:58
  Donovan McNabb fan. But watching the Eagles debacle
• 39:01
  yesterday and then actually talk about The Jets today, honestly,
• 39:05
  I'm going to take some. I'm going to take something
• 39:07
  after the show because I'm going to have to calm the hell down
• 39:09
  because I'm. Losing my mind job.
• 39:11
  He's in his happy place. Jets fans and Philadelphia fans
• 39:16
  are only happy when they're mired in misery, right?
• 39:20
  I guarantee you when the Eagles won the Super Bowl last year,
• 39:24
  people were complaining about Jalen Hurts or something in some
• 39:27
  way, just so it felt good to the heart.
• 39:29
  Well, I'm not going to go out there and eat horse crap on the
• 39:33
  ground like some of these Eagle fans after they win a Super
• 39:36
  Bowl. I'm not climbing up.
• 39:37
  I'm not. I'm not climbing five stories
• 39:41
  and and lunging to my death because I win a Super Bowl.
• 39:44
  I mean, this is what Eagle fans do.
• 39:46
  They're absolutely nuts. And As for Jet fans, we don't.
• 39:49
  I don't know what they do because we're never going to get
• 39:51
  there. So we'll never actually admire
• 39:53
  what Jet fans are going to do because it's never going to
• 39:55
  happen. Never.
• 39:57
  So that's it. I'm calm, I'm collective.
• 40:00
  Steve, we love you. I got to go watch this game
• 40:02
  guys. Funny you say the Eagles.
• 40:07
  Cam Jergens lives right around the corner from me.
• 40:09
  Well, you'll be seeing a lot of him.
• 40:11
  Yeah, yeah, he'll, he'll be home for the offseason, that's for
• 40:14
  sure. Thank you.
• 40:16
  Thank you, Steve. I love you.
• 40:17
  Appreciate you man. Appreciate your time, Steve.
• 40:20
  Thank you. Steve, you're the best.
• 40:21
  Thank you, man. You're the you're one of the
• 40:22
  best in the business. We really appreciate you.
• 40:24
  Let's get you on after the season.
• 40:26
  How about that? We'll talk about it.
• 40:27
  You got it. The offseason.
• 40:29
  You got it. Ladies and gentlemen, we were
• 40:32
  just talking to NFL Network Chief of National reporters all
• 40:36
  over the NFL Network, Steve Whites.
• 40:40
  I'm sure he enjoyed that interview and some of my
• 40:42
  craziness. I did lose my mind.
• 40:46
  I but you want to know something?
• 40:48
  I, I love Steve because Steve's honest, but he's trying to be a
• 40:52
  little bit too honest and he, he doesn't want to hurt himself
• 40:56
  going over there and and dealing with The Jets fans or The Jets
• 41:00
  organization. When he goes over there as the
• 41:02
  NFL Network in the offseason, they go from team to team.
• 41:04
  Steve is one of those guys that goes there.
• 41:07
  He doesn't want to hurt anybody's feelings, But I'll do,
• 41:10
  I'll do the I'll do the work, Steve, don't worry.
• 41:12
  But thank you, Steve for joining us on short notice.
• 41:16
  Honestly, that was today, right Speedy?
• 41:19
  I reached out to his publicist last night and they only got
• 41:21
  back to me I think at 12:15 or something today.
• 41:24
  I'm sure he enjoyed that interview and I'm sure he's
• 41:26
  laughing and he's enjoying himself watching this God
• 41:29
  forsaken game. Anyways, we call this Jabba.
• 41:33
  You love that, right? Did you enjoy that interview?
• 41:35
  No, it's fantastic. I love when you have so many of
• 41:38
  that caliber being able to break down it all in like in
• 41:41
  different, in different waves, because sometimes we, we kind of
• 41:45
  just pivot to one avenue of it. And he's able to basically break
• 41:50
  it down as a caveat of the whole thing as, as, as what he sees.
• 41:56
  Yes. And when you get somebody like
• 41:58
  that, it's it, it's just awesome to hear their point of view.
• 42:01
  Yeah, he tastes himself and. And maybe.
• 42:03
  I would have told you I would have too if I had that title.
• 42:06
  Yeah, I mean, I taste myself. And by the way, that was a good
• 42:10
  question. Would you actually put a steak
• 42:11
  in, you know, a microwave? But Jett fans would I?
• 42:14
  I know Jett fans would because we've been doing it for 50 years
• 42:17
  and still can't find a way out of going out and getting a nice,
• 42:20
  real good steak because everything that we eat doesn't
• 42:23
  taste good. All right, Speedy, let's go to
• 42:27
  your Stat of the Week. The speedy well you may run like
• 42:33
  me, but you hit like stat of the week.
• 42:40
  So everyone knows me as this notorious Chargers hater, but
• 42:43
  I'm going to give some praise to Justin Herbert and all these
• 42:46
  lazy football fans. I just want to make the argument
• 42:48
  that, oh, he's never going to win in the playoffs when it was
• 42:50
  really, Yeah, the offensive line that was just so historically
• 42:54
  bad. So this season, 129 hits he
• 42:57
  took, which was 18 more than any other quarterback, 268 pressures
• 43:02
  he took, which was 39 more than any other quarterback.
• 43:06
  And here's an interesting stat 109 quick pressures, which was
• 43:11
  he was the only quarterback in the NFL this season that faced
• 43:14
  100 quarterback quick pressure. So anyone saying that Justin
• 43:18
  Herbert was the reason that they lost the game, was he great?
• 43:20
  No, but what are you praying an offensive line like that,
• 43:23
  especially it's a Patriots team that doesn't have an overly
• 43:25
  great defense. Yeah, he's not the main.
• 43:26
  Issue it definitely wasn't and he wasn't even healthy and the
• 43:30
  offensive line he didn't have all he have.
• 43:32
  Slater, I'm telling you right now, mark it, book it MVP
• 43:36
  candidate next year. Don't be surprised if Justin
• 43:38
  Herbert is a top three candidate to win the MVP next year when
• 43:41
  Slater and all come back. That offensive line is scary.
• 43:45
  McKay, Becton, Alt, Johnson and Slater?
• 43:50
  Forget it. That could be the best offensive
• 43:52
  line in football. And the biggest, by the way?
• 43:54
  They're going to draft the guy too.
• 43:55
  Yeah, they're going to. They're going to get a center
• 43:57
  guard. They're they're not going to
• 43:59
  screw around. I think they're.
• 44:01
  Well, I mean, that's that's kind of what Steve said too.
• 44:03
  Are you, are you going to spend your money on the offensive
• 44:05
  line? Like, and, and I even said like
• 44:08
  fish loves this because you start in the trenches, right?
• 44:10
  Like. I feel like Steve said
• 44:12
  everything I've been thinking, you know, like I, I about The
• 44:16
  Jets, you know, just a disaster in house with Woody and sweet
• 44:20
  brick. By the way, by the way, if you
• 44:22
  read Steve White, she thinks the same way about the Giants,
• 44:25
  though, so I don't know why you're sitting there.
• 44:27
  Oh, he thinks the same way. That's.
• 44:28
  Interesting. At this point in the show, you
• 44:31
  bring up the giant, so we got some news about them right now
• 44:35
  in the whip around. Whip, whip, whip around.
• 44:42
  All right, let's begin the whip around with some John Harbaugh
• 44:50
  rumors. Yes, the hottest coach on the
• 44:52
  market is John Harbaugh. There's been a few teams he's
• 44:56
  been linked to. We heard Green Bay for a little
• 45:00
  bit. As soon as they lost that,
• 45:02
  maybe, maybe they'd move on from Matt Lafleur.
• 45:05
  A lot of people, including Steve White, threw some water on to
• 45:07
  that. Looks like they're going to try
• 45:09
  to extend Lafleur and even if they don't get them, it's
• 45:11
  probably going to take a while. They're not going to end up with
• 45:14
  Harbaugh. Miami we know moved on from
• 45:18
  McDaniel. There are ties.
• 45:19
  Apparently the Harbaugh's are very close with the Ross's who
• 45:22
  own the Dolphins. That is a connection there.
• 45:26
  But again, we don't know if that's going to happen.
• 45:28
  They have the issue with having not that great of a roster and
• 45:32
  $99 million of dead cap tide. The two of the Giants,
• 45:36
  apparently the Giants and John and Chris Marra had lunch today
• 45:41
  with John Harbaugh. That kind of came out about two
• 45:44
  hours ago that that was something.
• 45:46
  And the Falcons had a phone call interview, a Screener interview
• 45:50
  with Harbaugh earlier today. Obviously a bunch of other teams
• 45:54
  out there could look for coaches, Titans being one of
• 45:57
  them. Errol as time goes forwards in
• 46:00
  this, I mean for me, I think he's going to be the Giants next
• 46:04
  head coach. What do you think?
• 46:06
  I think there's a possibility. I also believe that you also
• 46:10
  have Mike McCarthy who's going to be interviewing for the job
• 46:13
  in the next two days. So he's going to get a chance.
• 46:15
  I, I do believe Kevin Stefanski, there's other guys right now.
• 46:20
  I do believe the Chargers defensive coordinator is going
• 46:22
  to interview for the job as well.
• 46:23
  There's still a lot and I don't think John Harbaugh that that
• 46:27
  announcements going to happen tomorrow or the next day.
• 46:30
  It's going to happen in the next couple of weeks, probably I
• 46:33
  would believe before the Super Bowl.
• 46:35
  We're going to hear where John Harpole is going to go.
• 46:37
  But I I'm not surprised that the Giants are one of the lead
• 46:40
  teams. They're one of the older teams.
• 46:43
  The Mara family is very well respected.
• 46:45
  Tish not so much, but they're an organization that you think have
• 46:51
  it all together but haven't won anything in I2 since 2011.
• 46:55
  They've been one of the worst, as a matter of fact, as far as
• 46:58
  wins and losses, I think they're they're as bad as The Jets.
• 47:02
  They're second worst to The Jets in the last 10.
• 47:04
  Years. They're bad.
• 47:05
  So if John Harbold takes the responsibility of being the new
• 47:10
  coach of this team, there has to be some kind of control.
• 47:13
  Because if he doesn't and Joe Shane gets fired at the end of
• 47:17
  this year here, you're putting them in a position.
• 47:19
  Yeah, I know what you're going to say, Fish.
• 47:21
  Well, he'll get his own GM. I I don't know if John Mayer is
• 47:24
  going to allow that. John Mayer likes control, as we
• 47:27
  all know. So I I don't know.
• 47:29
  I, I, I, I, I hope for you Giant fans it it, it bodes well for
• 47:34
  you if you go this route. I just don't know if it does so.
• 47:37
  Yeah, that's that's the other thing that's interesting too,
• 47:39
  because Atlanta and Miami both have vacant GM spots right now
• 47:43
  because Miami fired Greer in the middle of season.
• 47:45
  Atlanta just fired Fontenot, which I think it was a decent
• 47:47
  GM, probably better than Shane was, but did some weird things
• 47:50
  too. And the Giants, again, if
• 47:52
  Shane's going to have control, how much is he going to trust
• 47:53
  that kind of thing? Atlanta, we know it's more
• 47:55
  talent. I say the Giants probably more
• 47:56
  upside than Miami, but Miami still has the current roster.
• 47:59
  The one thing I will say is the Giants and the Falcons both
• 48:02
  gotten ahead of the they're usually later in the coaching
• 48:04
  cycle hiring guys, but good to see them getting you outgoing
• 48:07
  early. I think with Harbaugh too, and
• 48:10
  you guys kind of touched on a little bit, I think he he wants
• 48:14
  more control of it. I mean, you've been at a place
• 48:17
  for 18 years, you've seen what you've done.
• 48:19
  Like, he doesn't have to say what he does, but I think if
• 48:24
  he's going to go somewhere, he's going to want to have a little
• 48:26
  bit more control than just as the head coach.
• 48:30
  And you guys can tell me if I'm wrong because you you.
• 48:32
  Guys, there could be influence too with Ozzie Newsome too.
• 48:34
  Like maybe they're keeping in touch even though if Newsome's
• 48:36
  not directly in an organization. That's why I don't think he's
• 48:38
  going to go, if he goes to the Giants, I don't think it bodes
• 48:41
  well because right, I, I think marijuana control, we've heard
• 48:45
  this many, many. Times and and and that's why I
• 48:47
  preface that like being a guy like Harvaugh and what he's done
• 48:51
  and and Steve Egan said it too. It's like coaching's in their
• 48:53
  blood. Like it's not just coaching, but
• 48:55
  I think it it comes in in a lot of levels.
• 48:58
  And if he's not going to get that, do do you think that is a
• 49:04
  is a good fit when he'll just be like, no, if I don't get this
• 49:08
  control of certain things? I think it's a backlash.
• 49:13
  I'm going to tell you this right now.
• 49:14
  How many Baltimore Raven guys have we seen get spots?
• 49:18
  Defensive coordinator of Week Martindale was there.
• 49:21
  How long did that last? I mean, he couldn't get along
• 49:23
  with Dabel. And I'm not saying wink.
• 49:25
  I'm not saying John Harbold won't work over there.
• 49:27
  John Harbold was put in a great position.
• 49:30
  As soon as he got that position, he was set up very, very well.
• 49:34
  He got all he got. Ed Reed, he got.
• 49:36
  He got sucks. He got all these Hall of Farmers
• 49:39
  on his roster. He doesn't have them with the
• 49:41
  Giants. We don't even know if Dexter
• 49:43
  Lawrence is going to be there. They might move them.
• 49:45
  And yeah, they've got guys that played very well.
• 49:48
  Burns played this very well. They had a guy that they drafted
• 49:51
  that didn't show up to practices that slept late.
• 49:54
  How is that going to work, John? Hopeful.
• 49:57
  I'm just saying. On the Abdul Carter stand.
• 49:59
  It's true. It's true.
• 50:00
  Jabba, I want to mention this too, because.
• 50:02
  Lamar Jackson didn't didn't buy John Horrible at the end because
• 50:06
  he was the one that got him out. John, I want to mention this
• 50:09
  too. Steve Weiss was mentioning it
• 50:10
  with the Falcons, like they always hire these first year
• 50:12
  head coaches. I think especially after the
• 50:13
  last row where they turn down Bill Belichick, they turn down
• 50:16
  Jim Harbaugh right away and that ownership didn't want to get.
• 50:19
  I think they want to kind of recreate their image.
• 50:21
  The Dolphins are kind of the opposite of the Bengals.
• 50:23
  They'll spend money but they're GM like they stay too long and
• 50:26
  they committed to two loyalty blindly.
• 50:28
  All right, we're going to move on to the next story.
• 50:30
  Speaking of guys like The Jets, this guy used to coach The Jets,
• 50:35
  and now he says that he's earned the chance to return to coaching
• 50:42
  the Bucks in 2026. Yes, Todd Bowles, the head coach
• 50:46
  of the Bucks, they started six and two this year.
• 50:49
  They ended up 8:00 and 9:00. If you could do the math, that
• 50:52
  means they ended two and seven in the last nine games, falling
• 50:56
  out of the playoffs in the last week to the Carolina Panthers
• 51:00
  and their former offensive coordinator Dave Canales.
• 51:04
  They lost Canales and Liam Cohen in the last two seasons.
• 51:09
  The offense certainly took a nosedive this year because of
• 51:14
  it. You know, Bowles as a defensive
• 51:16
  coach, they're only as good as their offensive guys.
• 51:18
  He lost his offensive guys, he lost the team, they lost their
• 51:23
  way. But sure, he's earned the right
• 51:27
  to come back. What do you think?
• 51:28
  Breaking news. Smell my ass.
• 51:30
  That's what I think. There's no way in hell if I'm
• 51:33
  running my organization, I want Todd Bowles to come back.
• 51:36
  It's been a debacle with all these coaches that are available
• 51:39
  right now at your disposal. I'm going after MM McDaniel or
• 51:43
  somebody of that magnitude. I'm bringing in a guy that's
• 51:46
  going to run my office. Look at the weapons you have
• 51:48
  over there. Mike Evans, who's running at the
• 51:51
  tail end of his career. Godwin, you have a Buka.
• 51:54
  I mean, this is this is a offense that it could be dynamic
• 51:59
  and you have Baker Mayfield, you're going to keep Todd Bowles
• 52:02
  there in place After this debacle of the season in the
• 52:06
  what probably the worst division in football.
• 52:09
  I'm moving on from Todd Bowles. I can bring in Mike McCarthy,
• 52:13
  Kevin Stefanski, any one of these guys that will do better
• 52:16
  than Todd. Friggin balls out.
• 52:18
  He goes so long, farewell. Don't let the door hit you on
• 52:23
  the way out. I gave him the injury passed
• 52:25
  last year and I tended to give a lot of these coaches that deal
• 52:27
  with a lot of injuries all at once, that kind of pass.
• 52:30
  But I don't think you could do it in the NFC South like this
• 52:32
  year. Last year they were still 11 and
• 52:34
  six. They had the best EPA on offense
• 52:36
  and once those guys came back, they won six games in a row
• 52:39
  before they lost in the playoffs to the Commanders.
• 52:41
  But you can't do that this year. They were six and two.
• 52:43
  You talked about Arrow. Baker Mayfield was probably a
• 52:45
  top three MVP. Candidate 100.
• 52:46
  Percent behind DAC and whoever else who was on that list and.
• 52:49
  No thanks to Bulls. And yeah, I was going to say
• 52:52
  Bulls. I think at the time when Aryans
• 52:53
  retired was a fine culture stabilizer as like even with The
• 52:56
  Jets he always had a good relationship with the.
• 52:58
  Player do not bring The Jets up, but why do we have to do that?
• 53:01
  But I'm saying. Even with The Jets, he was
• 53:02
  always thought of as a good relationship guy with the
• 53:04
  players. He was just bad as a time
• 53:05
  management guy and a team that you're.
• 53:07
  Starting to act like Jabba. Jabba likes to bring up The Jets
• 53:10
  when it pisses me off. I'm, I'm mentioning that the
• 53:12
  Bucks can't afford to have this bad clock management and game
• 53:15
  planning type things when you have all these offensive, even
• 53:18
  veteran guys or young guys available to go go there for an
• 53:21
  offense if that's loaded when it's healthy.
• 53:23
  Yeah, I, I, I don't know about this one too.
• 53:26
  And, and it, it kind of hits home too, because we have the
• 53:30
  helm of the of the bucks and we got rested.
• 53:34
  And so if, if, if he agrees with that, I, I, I just don't, I
• 53:39
  don't know if he's earned that. I when he when he said that I it
• 53:44
  kind of it was a head scratcher for me.
• 53:47
  So I'm like what, what did you really do?
• 53:49
  Like you stall even obviously Mike Evans got hurt.
• 53:52
  We see that the tail land is the Hall of Famer 100%.
• 53:56
  But you went two and seven to finish the year or whatever it
• 54:01
  was. And so did you really earn it or
• 54:06
  are you just doing it on the notion of like, hey, I've done
• 54:10
  this before, isn't it? What have you done for me
• 54:13
  lately? Isn't that kind of what these
• 54:16
  guys get fired for and and hired for And you have so many better
• 54:20
  options that are that are on the table, right?
• 54:22
  Now the best options, It's been over for over the last 10 years.
• 54:26
  I don't think there's an offseason.
• 54:28
  I mean, it's very jet like that there.
• 54:31
  There's no the option. This is very jet like they
• 54:35
  finally I have to because it's very jet like finally an
• 54:39
  offseason with all these quality coaches that are available.
• 54:42
  And now you you have Kevin Stefanski, John Harbaugh, Mike
• 54:46
  McCarthy, all these guys that are sitting there waiting Mike
• 54:50
  McDaniel, who I love. But guess what The Jets have
• 54:54
  Glen. And by the way, I want to give a
• 54:57
  shout out to my friend Leaf. Everything we were saying last
• 55:00
  night, we were like, well, The Jets have Glen, The Jets have
• 55:03
  Glen. So every bad thing that
• 55:05
  happened, well, The Jets have Glen.
• 55:06
  Yeah, The Jets have Glen, that's for sure.
• 55:08
  Thank you Leaf for making me sick.
• 55:10
  I did want to follow up on something speedy.
• 55:12
  Do you know who led the NFL in quick pressures this year?
• 55:17
  It. Wasn't the Bucks, no.
• 55:19
  No player? What player?
• 55:21
  What player LED that about in quick?
• 55:23
  Which is you get to the quarterback 2.5 seconds.
• 55:26
  This makes my pressure. Hard.
• 55:28
  The answer was Abdul Carter. Oh, really?
• 55:32
  Yes, Abdul Carter was that fifth in pass rush win rate and had
• 55:36
  seventh most pressures. And and probably the guy that.
• 55:40
  Most another guy if I was John Harbaugh, I would want to come
• 55:43
  to. That that's right and and never
• 55:44
  shows up to practice on time and.
• 55:46
  Slows. In you say that, but after he
• 55:48
  was embarrassed by all of that, he had the most dominant finish
• 55:53
  of anybody in the NFL with 3 1/2 sacks, 6 tackles for loss and 11
• 55:58
  QB hits. Let's go Falcons, I guess,
• 56:01
  because they have a new leader in the clubhouse and it's their
• 56:05
  former franchise, future Hall of Fame quarterback Maddie Ice.
• 56:10
  Matt Ryan was named the president of the Atlanta Falcons
• 56:15
  the other day. He's going to be the president
• 56:17
  of football operations, newly created.
• 56:19
  Role like a serial kid he's. Going to report directly to
• 56:23
  owner Arthur Blank, who I think is 100 years old.
• 56:26
  President, CEO Greg Beetles was elevated above him but separate.
• 56:32
  So now he's in business operations.
• 56:34
  Matt Ryan is running basically the John Elway role now that he
• 56:38
  used to have in Denver. It it, it can work.
• 56:41
  It can work it it worked over there in Denver.
• 56:44
  I don't know what Matt Ryan knows as much as a guy like John
• 56:48
  Elway. He was there a long, long time.
• 56:50
  He won two Super Bowls, could have won five Super Bowls at one
• 56:53
  time. I mean, how many times did they
• 56:55
  went to a Super Bowl and failed to jump on like against your
• 56:58
  giants? By the way, Fish, I don't even
• 56:59
  think you were alive when that happened.
• 57:01
  I was 0 years old. But what I'm saying here is, is
• 57:06
  that Maddie Ice has a good personality.
• 57:09
  I've seen him on the NFL today. I I think he could be a quality
• 57:14
  executive. He just needs to put the right
• 57:16
  people in place to help him. If he doesn't do that, it's
• 57:19
  going to be a debacle. This is a good roster.
• 57:21
  The Atlanta Falcons have a very good roster.
• 57:24
  They have one of the more dominant running backs.
• 57:26
  They got a good tight end they have to sign.
• 57:28
  They cannot let him go to free agency, franchise him and sign
• 57:32
  him. Put the right guy in place that
• 57:34
  knows how to use a guy like Kyle Pitts and you got London and a
• 57:38
  good offensive line in it and a pretty good defense that you
• 57:41
  treat it up for in the offseason last year.
• 57:43
  This is a good team. Maddie Ice is put in a very good
• 57:47
  position to succeed. Put the right guys.
• 57:49
  Ovi Mohali, let's get him on the show.
• 57:52
  I we need to get Ovi in that in that press box, helping out the
• 57:57
  old Maddie. Ice, that would be great.
• 57:59
  Java, you've mentioned it too with a lot of baseball players
• 58:01
  that are in front offices now. You're trying to seeing the
• 58:03
  movement more in football. We talked about it coming on a
• 58:06
  up and down level with the Panthers, with Dan Morgan and
• 58:09
  John Elway probably is the most notable example with him being a
• 58:12
  direct icon with the Broncos. And then the most successful one
• 58:14
  probably has been John Lynn 49ers who had no no executive
• 58:18
  experience whatsoever came from the broadcast booth, Kyle
• 58:21
  Shanahan's disciple essentially and has built a stable team over
• 58:24
  there too. So I definitely think it can
• 58:25
  work. The fans are.
• 58:26
  Going to embrace. It too, but again, you do have
• 58:28
  to hire a real GM in order to do it first.
• 58:30
  You can't try to overpower everything because that was the
• 58:31
  problem with John Elway with the Broncos.
• 58:33
  It was when the Broncos gave it to George Patton four years ago
• 58:35
  that they actually started really building a good team
• 58:37
  after. That goba pass liquor.
• 58:39
  When you bring a player in, I think if you surround them with
• 58:42
  the right people, because now when it when you're talking in a
• 58:47
  player's relating to the team, it hits a little bit different.
• 58:52
  Not not to say that these other executives and whatever that
• 58:56
  never played the game doesn't hit.
• 58:59
  But when you have a guy that has been successful, that has has
• 59:02
  been through the trenches that gets it, I think it hits a
• 59:05
  little bit different. But you are 100% right.
• 59:08
  When if he doesn't have the right people around him, that
• 59:11
  allows him just to just to be that name and to be that face.
• 59:16
  And what we've seen with John, what we've seen with John and
• 59:20
  they have surround themselves, but they were also very, very
• 59:23
  successful what they did and they turned it into being
• 59:27
  successful in the front office. And you're seeing in different
• 59:31
  sports now putting those guys like a Sam Fuld that was a good
• 59:36
  baseball player, but now is is the front office and late.
• 59:41
  And I think when you have really good group around you, I think
• 59:46
  it just makes everything better because now the players can
• 59:49
  relate and they have a better feel.
• 59:53
  I think about it because when it comes from just somebody that's
• 59:57
  a business guy or numbers guy or whatever, pickle it.
• 1:00:01
  It just it hits a little different.
• 1:00:05
  And I think this is a great move because they have a great team.
• 1:00:09
  They have a great literally structure of what they're trying
• 1:00:13
  to do right now. And.
• 1:00:15
  I think if he does surround himself with good people, I
• 1:00:18
  think it's a great move. I don't thought before we move
• 1:00:20
  on I just want to mention too you also can't make the mistake
• 1:00:23
  of letting the ownership cater too much either, which was the
• 1:00:25
  problem with probably the worst example of an ex player.
• 1:00:27
  A good player joining a Foreign Office was the Macmillan with
• 1:00:30
  the Detroit Lions like 20 years ago.
• 1:00:32
  Was a terrible GM but the ownership with William Ford and
• 1:00:35
  the Ford family really got in the way for a while and I don't
• 1:00:38
  think Arthur blanks that type of guy.
• 1:00:40
  Luckily players have said it that he doesn't really get in
• 1:00:42
  the way as much, so I think so that's why it'll work.
• 1:00:45
  All right, let's get to the next one, which is the the they
• 1:00:49
  revealed the All Pro teams earlier in last week, so I want
• 1:00:54
  to show them to you. I'm going to bring them up on
• 1:00:56
  the screen. Let's go to this.
• 1:00:59
  I shut up on your face, Jabba. Like my shrimp cocktail?
• 1:01:04
  You're just a vile Nathan. That's just disgusting.
• 1:01:07
  I can't believe you would say that.
• 1:01:08
  I want her melons. You would, you would.
• 1:01:13
  So here we go. We have first team offense now.
• 1:01:15
  If you remember last year, guys, who was the first team All Pro
• 1:01:20
  quarterback because it wasn't the guy who won MVP who also
• 1:01:24
  played. Lamar Jackson.
• 1:01:26
  Lamar Jackson won for first team all pro and Josh Allen was
• 1:01:30
  second team yet Josh Allen was MVP and Lamar Jackson was not.
• 1:01:34
  I wonder if history repeat itself because first team all
• 1:01:36
  Pro is Matthew Stafford. Second team is going to be Drake
• 1:01:41
  May at running back. He got Bijan Robinson followed
• 1:01:43
  by perennial first team all pro because I think there's only
• 1:01:46
  like 3 full backs in all the football anymore.
• 1:01:48
  Kyle use check for San Francisco.
• 1:01:50
  He's great though. The wide receiver shouldn't
• 1:01:52
  surprise anybody. Puka Nakua, JSN and Jamar Chase,
• 1:01:56
  they have this position called all-purpose.
• 1:01:58
  I don't really get that but they gave it to CMC.
• 1:02:01
  Trey McBride, obviously the best tight end the league right now.
• 1:02:03
  The lineman bowls from Denver, Tooni in Chicago.
• 1:02:08
  No one saw that one being a good trade or in the offseason, huh?
• 1:02:11
  Or signing. Anyone, anywhere is a great
• 1:02:12
  number. Tooni wears Rock the Six Two
• 1:02:15
  baby. Obviously a mistake by the
• 1:02:17
  Chiefs. Creed Humphrey.
• 1:02:19
  Is that your cucumber or are you?
• 1:02:20
  Playing right next to him, minor, it's in Denver, is
• 1:02:23
  probably the best interior lineman going right now.
• 1:02:26
  If you get a chance to watch Denny's power run game, it's
• 1:02:29
  disgusting because they have two of the five All Pro first
• 1:02:33
  teamers and on their line and Sewell we all know is the best
• 1:02:36
  right tackle in football. On defense, the three edge
• 1:02:39
  rushers, even though we got hurt, Michael Parson made the
• 1:02:42
  list. Will Anderson junior is now a
• 1:02:43
  first team all pro. Everyone saw that coming and
• 1:02:46
  obviously Miles Garrett with his season.
• 1:02:48
  Jeffrey Simmons had the best D tackle season this year,
• 1:02:50
  followed by Zach Allen in Denver, the linebackers, Jack
• 1:02:54
  Campbell in Detroit, Jordan Brooks.
• 1:02:55
  I think it led the league in tackles for Miami.
• 1:02:58
  Stingley Junior was awesome all year for Houston when Jan
• 1:03:02
  Mitchell, we talked about it all season.
• 1:03:03
  Cooper De Jean gets slot corner first team, so they had two
• 1:03:07
  first team all pros in that secondary and then Kyle Hamilton
• 1:03:11
  and Kevin Bayard with the safety looks second team.
• 1:03:15
  Just a quick look at him. James Cook gets in there.
• 1:03:17
  George Pickens gets an all pro. Crystal Lavey with his standout
• 1:03:22
  season over there in New Orleans on a losing team.
• 1:03:25
  Great job by him getting into that after all those
• 1:03:27
  concussions. Guys.
• 1:03:29
  Anyone jump out at you here that you might have been surprised
• 1:03:33
  by? Here's some Giants Brian Burns,
• 1:03:36
  second team, All Pro, second in sacks this season.
• 1:03:42
  Let me let me jump in fish. And obviously in the in the in
• 1:03:45
  the first, obviously first team, they had fullback.
• 1:03:48
  Why do you think the fullback has has fallen out of love with
• 1:03:52
  football right now? Spread off it's it's a, it's a
• 1:03:55
  simple thing like if you bring an extra running back into the
• 1:03:58
  backfield, you bring an extra guy into the box.
• 1:04:01
  So now if you're not running a power I type of offense or like
• 1:04:07
  a 2 back offense, you're not really going to be able to
• 1:04:10
  spread out. Now you really only have 3
• 1:04:11
  receivers and maybe two guys into the flat.
• 1:04:13
  So you don't get to really use the whole field.
• 1:04:15
  And in the NFL you want to spread the field.
• 1:04:18
  And that's why in the last, you know, 20 years really since I I
• 1:04:22
  would kind of start with that Rams, you know, greatest show on
• 1:04:25
  turf team. You kind of see everyone kind of
• 1:04:28
  go into that spread fewer 2 back.
• 1:04:30
  So very few teams even have a full back on their roster.
• 1:04:33
  Just one of their extra tight ends that does that role or D
• 1:04:36
  tackle sometimes plays full back as well.
• 1:04:39
  So they just kind of don't do it anymore.
• 1:04:41
  But use Jack is an old school guy and he's fantastic at it.
• 1:04:44
  Errol, your big McBride guy. I know that.
• 1:04:47
  How is he still able to be a first team all pro when he had
• 1:04:51
  just a who's who of who's not throwing it to him this season?
• 1:04:55
  He's unbelievable and I had him on 2 of my fantasy teams.
• 1:04:58
  He has been as good as any tight end in football.
• 1:05:01
  Everybody keeps talking about Brock Powers.
• 1:05:03
  People forget about Trey McBride and what he has done.
• 1:05:06
  I I think and they came out of the same draft if I'm not
• 1:05:09
  mistaken. So right, two years apart, two
• 1:05:11
  years apart. But Trey McBride has been
• 1:05:14
  sensation, sensational. I've drafted him back-to-back
• 1:05:17
  years. I'm going to go with him next
• 1:05:19
  year if he's still available in the third round.
• 1:05:22
  He's special and so very well deserved and should get a little
• 1:05:25
  bit more a little bit more hype, but he's in Arizona and nobody
• 1:05:28
  gives a crap. Over there, yeah.
• 1:05:30
  The reason he didn't get a lot of playing time at the beginning
• 1:05:32
  his career was Zach Arts was still there too, so he didn't
• 1:05:34
  really break out until the 2023 season.
• 1:05:35
  But he was the best tight end of football by far.
• 1:05:37
  You mentioned Fish, the offensive lineman that I think
• 1:05:39
  deserve a lot of credit. Minors has been very underrated
• 1:05:41
  for a while too, and the all-purpose, it's probably like
• 1:05:43
  in baseball where they have the utility guy now, so you want to
• 1:05:45
  add another running back or another receiver that does a lot
• 1:05:48
  of different things. But I think they really nailed
• 1:05:49
  the offense, the defense. I would give some credits to the
• 1:05:51
  second linebackers too, with Lloyd, who I mentioned who was
• 1:05:54
  hurt last week, and Ernest Jones for the Seahawks.
• 1:05:56
  Steve Weis was talking about Seahawks defense doing a lot of
• 1:05:58
  things at the next level, and he's doing a great job.
• 1:06:00
  Yeah, you know, you got some familiar names on here.
• 1:06:02
  Certain gets second team this season.
• 1:06:05
  Hufonga, what a great acquisition by Denver to get
• 1:06:09
  him. Everyone knew that was going to
• 1:06:10
  be good. McKinney, the gift that keeps
• 1:06:12
  giving on giving to the Giants two times in a row.
• 1:06:15
  He's an All pro since he's left. And the Bee for one of the
• 1:06:17
  draft. The Cowboys to draft him over CD
• 1:06:19
  lamp. Leonard Williams, another guy,
• 1:06:21
  the Giants said. Yeah, we don't need you either,
• 1:06:24
  you know, another second team, all pro.
• 1:06:26
  I wonder why the Giants haven't been good that recently.
• 1:06:29
  That's a Jet The Jets draft of Leonard Williams.
• 1:06:31
  Well, the yeah true, but The Jets, we know that they had to
• 1:06:34
  move on from they got good value for him too.
• 1:06:36
  Derwin James bounce back season on the Chargers.
• 1:06:40
  He really had some bad statistical seasons, a couple in
• 1:06:42
  a row. Everyone knew he was good and it
• 1:06:45
  was kind of the coaching. Now he has coaching and he's
• 1:06:47
  been good again the last couple of years.
• 1:06:49
  So I guess we'll move on to the last one before we get out of
• 1:06:53
  it. And that is a something that we
• 1:06:56
  talked about Errol in private that I wanted to bring on to the
• 1:06:59
  screen. It's really frustrating as a
• 1:07:03
  Giants fan to watch the Giants always win 2 out of the last
• 1:07:07
  three games every season and screw up our chance of the first
• 1:07:11
  overall pick. As a Jets fan you're you watch
• 1:07:14
  the Raiders bench all their best players so that they wouldn't
• 1:07:19
  give up the chance at this pick. When you take a look at the NBA,
• 1:07:23
  you take a look at the NHL, and they've been doing the draft
• 1:07:26
  lottery since the day the days of frozen envelopes and Patrick
• 1:07:30
  Ewing. You guys are going to like this
• 1:07:31
  one. Would a draft lottery stop this
• 1:07:36
  epidemic of tanking and this horrible football we see the
• 1:07:39
  last couple of weeks of the season?
• 1:07:41
  Arrow. 100% what the Raiders have done over the years, what
• 1:07:46
  the Browns have done over the years, not and and The Jets say
• 1:07:50
  whatever you want as a Jet fan, The Jets always find a way to
• 1:07:53
  win games when they shouldn't. I remember a couple of years ago
• 1:07:56
  against the Rams where they could have gotten Trevor
• 1:07:58
  Lawrence, where everybody wanted to jump off a plank, they
• 1:08:01
  drafted Zach Wilson. We know what happened with that.
• 1:08:03
  I mean, it pisses you off and, and what really upsets me more
• 1:08:07
  than anything is Roger Goodell should understand what all the
• 1:08:11
  other leagues are doing. The NH LS doing it, the NBA has
• 1:08:16
  done it. The MLB is doing it.
• 1:08:18
  Why shouldn't the NFL do it? It makes a lot of sense.
• 1:08:22
  It will keep teams actually playing at the end of the season
• 1:08:26
  and wanting to work and try to win for the players and the
• 1:08:29
  fans. It's it's despicable.
• 1:08:31
  I think it's absolutely despicable sitting here today
• 1:08:35
  that the NFL hasn't figured this one out.
• 1:08:38
  That's how stupid Roger Goodell and the executives and owners
• 1:08:42
  are right now with the NFL. They love the money and they
• 1:08:45
  don't realize that the Raiders and all these terrible teams are
• 1:08:49
  sitting pretty hoping that they can land a superstar quarterback
• 1:08:53
  like a Joe Burrow or a Lamar Jackson who was late round pick
• 1:08:57
  or anyone of these topped up Peyton Manning or any of these
• 1:09:01
  guys. It it makes you sick to your
• 1:09:03
  stomach. Absolutely despicable.
• 1:09:04
  The NFL needs to do something. I have been just absolutely
• 1:09:08
  discouraged when I sit here. I don't care if it's Dante Moore
• 1:09:11
  or it it could be Mendoza. The fact here is is the Raiders
• 1:09:16
  are sitting pretty because they decided, hey, I'm going to sick
• 1:09:19
  Crosby, I'm going to sick Brock Bowers and I'm going to tell the
• 1:09:22
  league to go F themselves. I'm sick.
• 1:09:24
  I'm I'm just absolutely, it's humiliation.
• 1:09:27
  I'm done. Yeah, My main issue with the
• 1:09:29
  lottery systems in the NBA and the NHL have always been more
• 1:09:33
  that they just do it based on percentages rather than the
• 1:09:35
  actual points or the actual amount of wins that you have.
• 1:09:37
  And it should be based more on closeness because of that.
• 1:09:40
  Now, in the NFLI, don't know if you could have that kind of
• 1:09:42
  thing because the teams are so close or there's so many
• 1:09:44
  tiebreaker scenarios that could factor in.
• 1:09:46
  That being said, I do agree with you with the Raiders, like
• 1:09:47
  blatantly showing that they're doing it.
• 1:09:49
  They should get a penalty for that in some capacity, whether
• 1:09:52
  it's maybe a salary cap hit, whether it's a fine, whether
• 1:09:55
  it's something that. Would you go with the lottery?
• 1:09:57
  Speed. See, I don't think it would work
• 1:09:59
  in the NFL because I think because I think there's too many
• 1:10:01
  tiebreaker scenarios that would. There is no tiebreaker.
• 1:10:05
  It's a lottery. You get the right balls and you
• 1:10:08
  get the number one pick. There is no tiebreaker.
• 1:10:10
  See again the way I have the system though with the NBA and
• 1:10:12
  the. Stupid crap wins to loss ratio
• 1:10:16
  to strength of schedule. This is bull.
• 1:10:19
  Again, I think it's really flawed in the NBA.
• 1:10:20
  Now granted, you've always mentioned the NB as rigged, and
• 1:10:22
  I do agree with you on that. Where the percentage?
• 1:10:24
  Do what the NHL does. OK, fine.
• 1:10:26
  I'm just saying the the percentage system I think is
• 1:10:28
  still flawed anyway where #1 should not get a significant gap
• 1:10:32
  over #2 if number one team has has one less point then #2 like
• 1:10:37
  I think it's a very flawed system and same thing.
• 1:10:39
  You're nitpicking the NFL or any of these flawed things when
• 1:10:42
  someone thinks. They're picking the percentage
• 1:10:44
  process. Here's here's the process.
• 1:10:46
  Do a damn lottery. This is despicable that the NFL
• 1:10:50
  is sitting here and allowing the Raiders to choke at the end of
• 1:10:53
  the season for you to even argue this and say well the NFL this
• 1:10:57
  and the NFL no. Well, no.
• 1:10:58
  What bothers what bothers me is too is like they knowingly know
• 1:11:03
  that if they're not starting and and what do Raiders fans want to
• 1:11:07
  see? They want to see Brock Bauer,
• 1:11:09
  they want to see Max Crosby and they know it's like, OK, well, I
• 1:11:14
  don't want to hurt myself. Only reason they may would play
• 1:11:18
  is probably they have a performance bonus or something
• 1:11:20
  like that. So they're not going to put them
• 1:11:23
  on the field knowing that they're still going to get the
• 1:11:25
  pick if they play. Obviously they're game changers.
• 1:11:29
  They're they're not going to go out there because they're not
• 1:11:31
  going to hurt themselves to hurt their money.
• 1:11:34
  But now they know well, if we don't even play in them, then we
• 1:11:39
  don't work. And I there needs to be a
• 1:11:41
  lottery because what happens too, and we've talked about this
• 1:11:44
  a little bit in the NBA with healthy scratches, like some
• 1:11:47
  people pay a lot of money to come see you.
• 1:11:49
  What I loved about Joe Burrow when he said what he said he
• 1:11:53
  goes, I make a lot of money to play a game.
• 1:11:55
  I don't have to come back, but I come back because of fans and
• 1:11:58
  I'd love to play this game. And now you have guys like, well
• 1:12:03
  be better next year so I don't have to play.
• 1:12:06
  So take that away. Take that away.
• 1:12:11
  You signed up to be an NFL player.
• 1:12:14
  You answer the bell. You don't get a chance to just
• 1:12:18
  sit out because you want to. And your teams maybe get better
• 1:12:21
  next year like you're an athlete.
• 1:12:24
  Like sack up and answer. Listen, the NBA did it first.
• 1:12:29
  Then the NHL. Now the MLB Why shouldn't
• 1:12:32
  football tell right behind? The only person that doesn't
• 1:12:35
  think that it should be is this idiot over here.
• 1:12:38
  Speedy, speedy, speedy. Oh, well, then we all
• 1:12:41
  dysfunction and all the analytics will tell me, you
• 1:12:44
  know, it doesn't make sense. He's not wrong, though.
• 1:12:47
  He's not wrong. I would imagine they.
• 1:12:52
  Come up with a different system but.
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  You know, it would have to be something that makes everybody
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  happy, makes me sad, never happens.
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  But I hate the tanking I. Would do anything.
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  To keep the tanking down and keeping it to a minimum,
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  minimum, I like that, a minimum. And that has been the whip.
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  Around. That's it for our show, ladies.
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  And gentlemen, thank you to. NFL Network chief National
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  Reporter Steve White for joining us and having a little, you
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  know, fun with us and laughing and giggling.
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  Remember, thank you to all the fans on social media from
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  YouTube, all our YouTube fans and please, we're going to open
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  up a new YouTube channel for New York, so stay tuned for that.
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  We're going to to have all the New York sports put on the
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  YouTube channel, so you can gravitate to all the stuff that
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  we talked about with the Rangers, the Islanders, the
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  Knicks, the Nets, The Jets, the Rangers.
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  I mean, I'm the Giants in the Buffalo Bill.
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  So it'll be all posted up on that YouTube channel.
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  But stay tuned. There's a lot of big things
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  happening over the next couple of months.
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  We'll be in tuned to let you guys know when it gets closer.
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  So thank you, Jabba. Do you have anything to say
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  before we go? No, Appreciate everybody.
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  Appreciate you guys, all the fans it's been.
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  Fantastic 2026 is going to be fun for all of us.
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  So I'm excited for the journey and jump on board because it's
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  it's going to be a fun one ball bag, as our friend Nathan would
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  always say anyways. We are.
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  Done speeding. Who do we have on on Thursday,
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  Wednesday, I'm sorry, Wednesday it is 8:45 we got.
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  Laura Albanese, who is the Mets beat writer for Newsday?
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  Oh, that's a good one. That's a slam dunk.
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  That'll be fun. To to get into a conversation
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  with, but the New York Mets. Why not the laughing stock right
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  now of New York? Or are they?
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  It might be The Jets or the Giants or whoever else it seems
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  like New York. It's The Jets or the Giants.
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  They're the laughing stocks, New York.
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  Sports. Anyways, that's it.
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  We'll talk to you Wednesday. Goodnight.
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