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Everything is Figure-outable: Alexandria Gilleo On Doing Glam For Your Favorite Athletes, The Importance Of A Morning Routine & Answering Your Burning Makeup Questions · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: I really try to sit down with them and look
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  Speaker 1: at their face and see what is going to help
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  Speaker 1: with making them feel the most beautiful, confident person on
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  Speaker 1: the field, off the field, on the court, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, Emily A Badi here, You're listening to another
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  Speaker 2: episode of Hurdle, a podcast featuring the mindset, secrets, and
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  Speaker 2: true stories of the most inspiring women in sports and wellness,
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  Speaker 2: empowering you to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life
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  Speaker 2: and of course, conquer your own hurdles. Today, I am
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  Speaker 2: sitting down with Alexandra Guilio. She is a celebrity makeup
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  Speaker 2: artist who has worked with some of your favorite athletes,
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  Speaker 2: including names like Sue Bird, Ali Kreeger, and Rihanna Stewart.
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  Speaker 2: In alex gets real about her journey through a high
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  Speaker 2: stress career and the major health hurdle that forced her
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  Speaker 2: to pivot a diagnosis of stage four endometriosis that nearly
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  Speaker 2: led to emergency surgery right before she was set to
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  Speaker 2: travel to the parasol andm bics. We dive into how
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  Speaker 2: she manages her life as a high performing entrepreneur, including
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  Speaker 2: her non negotiable morning ritual involving red light therapy, hydration,
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  Speaker 2: and classical music. She also shares the lessons she's learned
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  Speaker 2: about the power of intentional solitude, the importance of acting
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  Speaker 2: like you already have it through manifestation, and why she
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  Speaker 2: now prioritizes her nervous system and family first boundaries over
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  Speaker 2: the constant hustle. Plus, of course, I put it out
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  Speaker 2: into the universe, offered to answer all of your skincare
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  Speaker 2: and makeup and beauty questions, and we have got the
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  Speaker 3: And with that, let's get to it. Let's get to hurdling.
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  Speaker 2: Today. I am sitting down with Alexandra Guilio. She is
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  Speaker 2: a celebrity makeup artist. She's also a dear friend of
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  Speaker 2: mine and behind many of the most beautiful looks that
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  Speaker 2: you have seen on some of your favorite athletes, including
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  Speaker 2: Sue Bird, Ali Kreeger, Gabby Thomas, Brianna Stewart. The list
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  Speaker 2: goes on, Alex, Welcome to Hurdle, Hi, thank you so
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  Speaker 2: much for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, no brainer. I'm so excited to be here.
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  Speaker 3: You are genuinely excited to be here. I am.
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  Speaker 2: It took you, It took you a while to get here, girl, girl.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this traffic. People say that LA traffic is
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  Speaker 1: worse than New York.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's because they're not commuting from the Hudson Valley
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  Speaker 2: to New York City on the regular correct, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, but the Hudson Valley parks to New York City. Fine,
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  Speaker 1: it's when you're in like New York, like Manhattan, going
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  Speaker 1: to Brooklyn or something. I'm like, no, there's no way
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  Speaker 1: that LA is worse. There's no way. Yeah, I was
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  Speaker 1: like two miles away for three hours. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm almost normally two miles away.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the worst because it really can take you
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  Speaker 2: like an hour an hour and a half to go
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  Speaker 2: like four or five miles here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. So crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone thinks I'm nuts because they're like, why don't you
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  Speaker 1: live in New York City. But I'm telling you, I
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  Speaker 1: would never stop if I live down here. Do you imagine, Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I would never stop.
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  Speaker 2: That's an entrepreneurial perk and con sometimes one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: It's great that you.
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  Speaker 2: Have that willingness to like, go, go go, But do
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  Speaker 2: you feel like that catches up with you often?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this was something that I was dealing with,
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  Speaker 1: Like right before COVID, I hit a major, major burnout,
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  Speaker 1: and then when COVID happened. At first, I freaked out
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  Speaker 1: during the pandemic, but then I was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of nice. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I get to breathe.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I get to like not commute every
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  Speaker 1: day and not carry my kit and not answer all
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  Speaker 1: these emails. I'm just outside and I'm hiking and I'm
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know it wasn't like that for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be sensitive to you know, other
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  Speaker 1: people that went through it, but yeah, I definitely need
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  Speaker 1: to be in nature for sure to recharge.
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  Speaker 3: At first. Was that difficult for you?
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  Speaker 2: That stark contrast from being so busy, busy, busy to
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  Speaker 2: actually having the freedom to have some more of your
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  Speaker 2: time back to yourself.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. But it was also a huge wake
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  Speaker 1: up call. Right, So I went from going, going, going.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize how unhealthy I was, and like my
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  Speaker 1: nervous system was shot. I was saying yes to every
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  Speaker 1: little thing, which I do feel like you have to
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  Speaker 1: do in business and as an entrepreneur when you're growing
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  Speaker 1: your company, you do have to say yes. You do
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  Speaker 1: have to put in years and hard work and you know,
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  Speaker 1: many years of hustle and grind, Like.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's really important.
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  Speaker 1: But once I had that time to rest and recover,
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  Speaker 1: as like, oh my inflammation's gone. Oh, I feel energized,
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  Speaker 1: Like I had an awakening for sure. So now I
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  Speaker 1: really look forward to going back home and going upstate
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  Speaker 1: into my little sanctuary. I have my red light, I
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  Speaker 1: have my saana, I have you know, a yard, which
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  Speaker 1: is nice, and I'm like, okay, I can recharge and
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  Speaker 1: then when I need to come back down here to
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  Speaker 1: like hustle, grind, do makeup, do all the things, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm present and able to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you said my inflammation was gone. Talk to me
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  Speaker 2: about what that looked like practically.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I do have some autoimmune things. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know that I had endometriosis, but I because I
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  Speaker 1: was going, going, going, I wasn't properly taking care of myself.
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  Speaker 3: This is pre COVID.
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  Speaker 1: Right during COVID, I caught my nervous system. I was
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  Speaker 1: eating better, I was cooking all my meals. I was outside,
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  Speaker 1: I was in the sun, I was doing all the things,
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  Speaker 1: and I noticed that I felt so much better. And
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  Speaker 1: then once I started working again, flying, traveling all over
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  Speaker 1: the place, I was still definitely being more aware of
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  Speaker 1: taking care of my body. However, it started to come back.
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  Speaker 1: And then do you know Gaby Bernstein? Okay, so she's
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  Speaker 1: a dear friend and a client of mine. I was
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  Speaker 1: doing her makeup and she's like, you need to get
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  Speaker 1: a scan. And I was like, why, this is kind
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  Speaker 1: of weird. This is a little wooo. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you guys like talk like this.
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  Speaker 3: I talked about.
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  Speaker 1: She's so my dad passed away when I was twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, your dad just came to me and
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  Speaker 1: told me that you have to get a scan.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, what do you mean? Am I dying?
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  Speaker 3: Like this is crazy?
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  Speaker 1: So do you know pernuvoh Okay, I wish it they
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  Speaker 1: were like a sponsor of the show or something. They're
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  Speaker 1: this would be like a great this would be a
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  Speaker 1: great plug for them. So I like went online and
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  Speaker 1: I got an appointment with Pernuvo, which is a preventative MRI,
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  Speaker 1: and I went in like two days later, and they're like,
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  Speaker 1: you have like these massive cysts around your ovaries and
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  Speaker 1: that's what was like causing all this inflammation in my body,
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  Speaker 1: especially when I was like going and not stopping maybe
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  Speaker 1: you know, eating out too much and not sleeping and
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing, and it was happening again. So I
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  Speaker 1: was like, okay, but you go to the guy in
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  Speaker 1: to collegists and they tell you you have cysts, you
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  Speaker 1: don't really think it's a big deal because they don't
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  Speaker 1: make it a big deal. Well, let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: A week later, it was right before the Olympics in France.
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  Speaker 1: I was supposed to go and it was going to
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  Speaker 1: be so fun because I wasn't necessarily working. I was
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  Speaker 1: there to have a good time and like all my clients,
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  Speaker 1: all my friends, everyone was going. And then we were
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  Speaker 1: going to extend a trip to Saint Tropez with my
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  Speaker 1: other group of friends the day before we're about to leave,
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  Speaker 1: I get the worst pain and I'm like, I have
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  Speaker 1: to go to the hospital. And for me to go
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  Speaker 1: to the hospital, I have to be in excruciating pain
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  Speaker 1: and go to the hospital. And they're like, we need
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  Speaker 1: to take your ovaries out now. I was like absolutely not.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, dang, I'm not like I might still
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  Speaker 1: want kids. I don't know, like i'ven't thought about this,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So I was like, no, you're not taking
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  Speaker 1: my ovaries out, and they're like, no, your ovaries are twisted,
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  Speaker 1: it's cutting off the oxygen supply to your organs, all
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  Speaker 1: these things. I said no, and I had to sign
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  Speaker 1: all his paperwork. I was there for like forty eight hours.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, you can die. This is bad, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, it's okay, I'm going to figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be fine.
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  Speaker 1: So I had met Gabby Bernstein's cousin at one of
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  Speaker 1: her dinner parties, who happens to be like this VP
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  Speaker 1: over at m Mayou and he was like, oh, here's
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  Speaker 1: my number if.
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  Speaker 3: You ever need anything. I need something, So I like
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  Speaker 3: tell you that he probably did.
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  Speaker 1: He probably like gave me his number, not thinking I
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  Speaker 1: would actually like call him. So I called him and
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  Speaker 1: he he's like, oh honey, we got to get you in.
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  Speaker 1: But they were able to get me in with a
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  Speaker 1: top surgeon, thank god. And you know, I called my
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  Speaker 1: friend Robin who owns Parsley Health and I sent her
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  Speaker 1: my scams and she was like, Babe, is goda yep, yep.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, baby, you gotta get you gotta get these
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  Speaker 1: cysts out. But my surgeon went in and he was like,
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  Speaker 1: you had stage four endometriosis that you were probably living
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  Speaker 1: with for ten years and all of like the hustling
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  Speaker 1: and not sleeping and you know, the grinding and not
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  Speaker 1: taking care of yourself and eating out and drinking. He's
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  Speaker 1: like that definitely like made this worse. He's like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how you were going for so long. Good
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  Speaker 1: news is they got everything out. They got out all
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  Speaker 1: the endometriosis out, they got all the cysts out, and
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  Speaker 1: they were able to save my ovaries, which was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, wow, yeah, CRAZYO.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well that's one way to start. Like That's why
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  Speaker 2: I don't live in New York City.
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  Speaker 3: I'm kidding. I need to be calm.
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  Speaker 2: What a story, And thank you obviously for sharing about
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  Speaker 2: your father. I know that he was a big part
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  Speaker 2: of the reason why you got into holistic wellness to
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  Speaker 2: start with.
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  Speaker 3: Totally.
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  Speaker 1: I mean not to be like morbid, but he just
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  Speaker 1: basically dropped dead. Like he was young. He was fifty
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  Speaker 1: two years old. We were so close, such a daddy's girl.
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  Speaker 1: When my parents got divorced when I was fifteen, I
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  Speaker 1: moved in with my dad like most girls are moving
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  Speaker 1: in with their moms, you know, and like me and
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  Speaker 1: my mom have a great relationship now, but I was
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  Speaker 1: just such a daddy's girl.
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  Speaker 3: He was so supportive.
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  Speaker 1: I remember I would like do the simplest job, like
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  Speaker 1: I would like powder a guy's head, like at like
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  Speaker 1: a real estate firm, and he'd called me to be like,
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  Speaker 1: we need to celebrate. That's amazing, Like you're doing such
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  Speaker 1: a great job. So when he had a massive stroke,
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  Speaker 1: that was a huge wake up call for me, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, wow, I need to really focus
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  Speaker 1: on health and wellness. And it actually ties into working
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  Speaker 1: with athletes because these athletes are really taking care of
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  Speaker 1: their bodies, and I'm like, this is the type of
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  Speaker 1: clientele that I want to be surrounded by. I love
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  Speaker 1: working in the wellness community. I love working in the
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  Speaker 1: athletic space. I love working with people in the mindfulness world.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, this is great because this is like
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  Speaker 1: the energy that I need to be around. So it
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  Speaker 1: just feels very aligned.
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  Speaker 2: Very aligned. Yeah, and I'm sure this was in twenty fifteen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm sure that that wasn't the immediate way that
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  Speaker 2: you process this. Oh, totally, talk to me about how
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  Speaker 2: you navigated your grief at the time and what you've
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  Speaker 2: learned about navigating grief with time.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So when everything first went down, I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: have to grow up quick because I was living in
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  Speaker 1: my dad's house. My dad was still paying for my
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  Speaker 1: stuff I was twenty four years old, like my car
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  Speaker 1: bill or my car payment, my phone bill. And everyone's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well you need to move out. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not moving out. This is my house, like just
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  Speaker 1: because my dad's not here now, like I can't leave,
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  Speaker 1: Like I told my animals there, my stuff was there,
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  Speaker 1: like that's all I knew. So I had to learn
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  Speaker 1: how to pivot real quick and grow up real quick.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, I need to build credit
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  Speaker 1: and I need to learn about finances, and I need
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  Speaker 1: to learn about paying bills. And also maybe I want
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  Speaker 1: to surround myself with different types of people. Maybe I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to surround myself with like the small town
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  Speaker 1: gossipy clique, Like that's not me anymore. I just went
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  Speaker 1: through something so major, so traumatic, and I want to
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  Speaker 1: surround myself with people that are growing, people that are learning,
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  Speaker 1: people that are traveling the world and having bigger conversations,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people that are thinking outside the box, people
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  Speaker 1: that have been through things in their life. So I
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  Speaker 1: had a very drastic change, like it was releasing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that didn't serve me anymore and really
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  Speaker 1: honing in on my career. I was doing makeup at
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  Speaker 1: the time, but I was like, Okay, I need to
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  Speaker 1: turn this into a real business. I need to structure
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  Speaker 1: my company where I'm really going to thrive and make money.
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  Speaker 1: I need to learn how to build the credit and
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  Speaker 1: buy the house and learn that. You know, the garbage
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  Speaker 1: bill is a thing I thought. I was like, who,
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  Speaker 1: you have to pay for the garbage bill? I was like,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't that come out with of our taxes or something.
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  Speaker 1: It was a big learning experience for me, but I
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  Speaker 1: grew up really quick, and I really fell in love
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  Speaker 1: with all the people I was meeting and all the
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  Speaker 1: places I was traveling to and the experiences I was having,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, just my brand, my business. It turned
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  Speaker 1: into my baby and I love it and I'm so
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  Speaker 1: protective over it. And you know, now I have a
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  Speaker 1: team of twenty two girls that worked for me, and
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  Speaker 1: they're all so amazing. They're incredible, and I just love them,
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  Speaker 1: and like, they love the company so much, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: so grateful. And so I was able to turn that
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  Speaker 1: really negative experience into something so positive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And such a challenging thing to do when
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  Speaker 2: there are so many emotions present, totally, and so for
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  Speaker 2: you now to have gone through that hurdle and then
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  Speaker 2: be able to emerge on the other side with tangible
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  Speaker 2: lessons that really have impacted you and helped you not
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  Speaker 2: only as an entrepreneur within your business, but as a human,
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  Speaker 2: it's invaluable, totally.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you spoke about really understanding the type of person
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  Speaker 2: that you wanted to surround yourself with, but bigger than that, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you can surround yourself with all of the great people
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  Speaker 2: in the world, but you're still going to have to
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  Speaker 2: do that inner work. Talk to you a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about what your journey to working on your own personal
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  Speaker 2: development has looked.
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  Speaker 3: Like.
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  Speaker 1: I was alone a lot and I still am. Yea,
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  Speaker 1: I have a lot of solitude, and I think it's important.
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  Speaker 1: This is something that I love about my commute because again, like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: can we be sitting in traffic for three hours? Is
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  Speaker 1: the commute crazy?
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes?
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  Speaker 1: Of course, However, I honor and love that alone time
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  Speaker 1: so much because that's my thinking time. Whether I want
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  Speaker 1: to put on a podcast and like learn something, whether
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  Speaker 1: I want to just sit in silence, whether I want
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  Speaker 1: to like daydream and think of ideas for my business
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  Speaker 1: or for my life or manifest things. I have to say,
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  Speaker 1: I do consider myself a really good manifestor.
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  Speaker 3: But I really had to sit.
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  Speaker 1: Alone and really get clear with my thoughts and my
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  Speaker 1: intentions and the things that I wanted in my life,
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  Speaker 1: and also figure out who I was too. I went
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  Speaker 1: on retreats. I went on a yoga meditation retreat in Thailand.
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  Speaker 1: I went to another retreat up in Woodstock. Didn't know anybody,
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  Speaker 1: just you know, I met a wonderful group of people
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  Speaker 1: and everyone was there by themselves, not knowing anyone, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of therapy, a lot of life coaches. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know saw De Simone?
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  Speaker 3: I do. Yeah, he helped me a lot. He was
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  Speaker 3: my life coach for a few years, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then honestly just traveling, traveling and hearing other people's
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  Speaker 1: experiences in life and knowing that other people have gone
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  Speaker 1: through it and in so many different ways, and just
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  Speaker 1: knowing that life is short and not again not to
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  Speaker 1: sound morbid, but it's like, just go experience everything that
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  Speaker 1: you can travel like, and that's another thing, like I
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  Speaker 1: never want to judge people, and I know, like we're human,
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  Speaker 1: we're judgmental beings, but I'm like, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: be so open minded and understanding to everyone and everything.
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  Speaker 1: And it's also allowed me to have so much compassion
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  Speaker 1: and empathy for people and really just listening to people.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I would say a lot of a lot
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: of experiences traveling in solitude. Yeah, has been it so helpful?
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I would be remiss if we didn't double click on
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I am such a good manifestor now, I mean you're
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: going to say that, and you also can't drop that
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: you're friendly with Gabby Bernstein and then be like and
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I'm also such a good manifestor, like obviously you are. Yeah,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: So what does being a good manifestor look like for
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: you in practice? And what do you feel like you
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: can offer people who are interested in also becoming good
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: manifestors themselves.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: So I believe that you have to fully believe that
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to manifest is already yours, and you
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: have to just claim it and own it and act
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: with confidence. I've always been big into vision boarding. I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: like to call them execution boards, okay, because it's not
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: so much just like pictures that I'm going to look
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: at on this board and then one day, poof, it's
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: going to happen, Like I have to execute and have
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: all these micro goals to hit these macro goals right.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: But for instance, like I had put Sarah Blakeley, I
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: had put a picture of her on a vision board.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: This was like I think in maybe twenty eighteen or
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and all of a sudden her name started
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: coming up in conversation a lot, and I started like
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: reading about her a lot. I was super inspired by
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: her story. She had lost one of her closest girlfriends
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: when she was younger, and I had lost a really
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: one of my best friends as well, so I really
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: resonated with her story and thought like her entrepreneurial journey
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: was so incredible. So put her on my vision board
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: and you know, talking about her as if I'm just
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: going to meet her one day whatever. And Sharon as
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: my boyfriend at the time. He gets an email and
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: he was a photographer, but no offense to him at all.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: He was not like a well known like his photos
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: were of me for my Instagram. Somehow, someway, he had
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: gotten an email and it was something with Sarah Blakeley
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: for her family reunion, and I was like, I'm coming
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: with you, because I was like this can't be like
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the Sarah blake like, there's no way, but just in case,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I'm coming with you.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: And I went.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Sure enough, we were at her house and met her,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: met her husband, Jesse, and then he started photographing a
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: bunch of events for them and the hill, the hell
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: on the Hill, you know what I'm talking about. And
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: then I became friends with Jesse's assistant at the time, Amanda,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: who's absolutely incredible and we're still really great friends. And
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: it was just so crazy. I'm like, wow, I literally
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: put her on my vision board like six months ago,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and now I'm in her kitchen and I'm with her
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: whole family and becoming such good friends with Amanda, who's
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Jesse's assistant.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: It was just so like what a bizarre moment.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: And like another thing that comes to mind is Gabby,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Like I read all of her books on Manifestation. I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: remember my dad was actually reading one of her books
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: before he had passed away, and I was like, you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I went to her book talk. I went to one
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: of her talks, and again everything she was saying was
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: resonating with me so much, and I was like, I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: really want to be this woman's makeup artist one day.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I want to be like friends with her. And I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: started to visualize it. And I have a picture of
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: her signing my book like my friend like took it,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and I was like so excited waiting in line listening
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to her talk, getting my book signed by her. Yeah,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: And you know, fast forward a couple of years, We're
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: at a wedding and she's at the wedding and she
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: comes up to me. She's like, did you do the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: bride's makeup? I was like, yeah, I did. She was like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: your makeup work is incredible. She was like, open your
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: calendar right now and see if you're free for Veronica
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Beard shoot next week. Yeah, And I was like, shit,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, my schedule so booked. I'm so like,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: there was no way I opened my schedule. It was
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: like the only day, the only time slot that I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: had open. So I went and dinner makeup. She loved it.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: That was years ago, and now she's one of my
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: greatest friends.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Like it's not just like me traveling with her to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: do her makeup, but she's become like a sister.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Okay. So I'm like, manifestation. You really can manifest anything,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I think. Okay.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: So what I'm hearing you say is that in order
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: to get what it is that you want, you have
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: to act like you already have it.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I have to act like you already have it. You
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: have to own it, okay, and be so confident with it. Right.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Some people call it a little delusional, but I just
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: think it's you know, I don't know, confidence, confidence, Yeah, confidence, yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. Yes, honey. Okay, so we love
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the story. So we have you ever done Sarah Blakeley's makeup?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: No, but I did do the makeup for Sneaks. Yeah, yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: for one of their shoots.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: That's so good. Yeah, it was a lot.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, we need to full circle. Yeah, one
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: hundred percent. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: So now fast forward with me to how you started
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: to get into doing makeup for some of our favorite
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: female athletes.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: So funny.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: So I started working with male athletes first, and that
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: was just random word of mouth. I had done a
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: shoot with Carmelo Anthony probably like my god, twelve years ago,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: maybe a little longer than that. Ye did something with
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Derek Cheter Joe Namath, who is like a big Jets.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Guy Jets you know, you know that guy Broadway Joe Nope. Deal.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: So I was in the world of athletes already. And
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: then I got a job at Bumble and Bumble doing
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: makeup for a lot of their campaigns.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: And they had partnered.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: With Ali Creeker, Yes, our girl, Our girl, and we
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: had a two day shoot with them, and we I mean,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: when you're doing makeup for someone, it's such like a intimate.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I know, I can't wait to dive into this with you,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: but continue, I mean, you're seeing them with no makeup.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Some people are comfortable with that. Some people, aren't. You know,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Once you become someone's makeup artists, you're in their home,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: you're around their family, like you're it's like a very private,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: vulnerable space. And I feel like this is why I
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: end up being friends with all of my clients, because
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: it's just such like a personal experience and I like
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: to hold a safe space for them.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so I had met Ali this is probably
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: like eight years ago maybe, and then ever since that.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I mean it was you know, do the wedding makeup
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and come with me here and do this and do that.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: So she was the first female athlete I worked with,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: like a few track track olympians before that. Yeah, but
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: she was the first athlete to really like want glam. Yeah,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and because not all the athletes want glam. They want
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: like something very soft, very natural, and I'm known for
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: a more natural look, but Ali was like, let's go glam.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: So once I started working with her kind of opened
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the doors and it was like, oh, you know, she's
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: friends with Pino and she's friends with Subird, and you
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: know Subird friends with Brianna Stewart and Brianna Stuart's friends
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: with Niara, and I just it just started to have
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: this ripple effect, you know, and just connecting with like
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: agents and becoming friends with people, and you know, working
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: with Mallory Swanson and doing her wedding makeup.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: We do a lot of weddings. I have a bridal
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: aspect of the business as well. You know, we did
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Lindsay Harand's wedding. And We've just entered the space of
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: female athletes and I feel so inspired by them and
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I feel so excited to work with them. I love
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that they're so on time, because no one really is.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: They're so on time, they're so determined, they're so motivated,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and it inspires me. So I'm like, I want to
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: continue to work with female athletes as much as possible
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: because it's so fun and so inspiring, so inspiring.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Were any of these people on your vision board? No?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: So when I say that back to you and you
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: think about what it is that you're doing, now, how
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: does that make you feel?
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Well? I'm trying to think.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I did have sports on my vision board when I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: think about it, but it wasn't like a specific athlete.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: But I think it's because I mean, I played softball
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: growing up. I played for thirteen years and I really,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I still want to get back into it, like a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: woman's leek. I can join, but like when do we
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: have the time for that? But yeah, I did have
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: sports on my vision board, so it's funny to like
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: reflect on that. Yeah, but now I just feel like
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: so in it now, Like I'm so in it right,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it's been eight years.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible. It's incredible, Yeah, and I love it
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: for you. You mentioned the intimacy that comes with doing
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: people's makeup. The first question for that is, have you
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: ever arrived in a moment and realized just like how
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: much of the weight of it or how big of
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: a moment It was, like, have you ever been so
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: kind of thrown off your game arriving into a setting?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Me and Marita, who's Ali's hairstylist, we walked into the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: New York Stock Exchange and we were like, oh my god,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: we're the New York Stock Exchange. And we were there
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: at Nasdak ringing the bell. We were up there ringing
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the bell and I was like, why are we here?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: But like we're part of the crew, you know, like
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: of course you have to come up here, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: being in Times Square, Ali hosting the ball drop on
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. I always said, I was like, you
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: can never pay me to be in Times Square New
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Year's You Well, I guess I could be bought.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I can be bought.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Like there's been some really like crazy moments
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: for like us at the Emmy Awards or US wasn't
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that Amy Wards yet, I think it was Emmy Awards.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: You know, SP's haven't done.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: SPI's which isn't done and the only reason why is
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: because I've just been booked with other things.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: But hopefully next year he'll be there.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, like also traveling the world, like
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: going to Spain, we went to Bilbao, Can been to Can. Yeah,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I've like I've really traveled the world with these girls,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and you know, and Can was so fun. For Sport Beach,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: we did Alex Morgan's glam we did Jen we did Ali,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: like we just we had.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: So much fun.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just it it's like a pinch me moment.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't believe this is what I get
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I need to know, what's the craziest thing you've seen
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: inside of someone's home before.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: The craziest thing that I have seen going into someone's
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: home is probably a club. No, like an actual like
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: party club.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Like they had an elevator that took you downstairs and
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: it opened up into a club with like all of
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the lights and the sound systems and a DJ booth.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: And I remember just thinking I was so confused. I
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: was like, is this like open to the public or
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: is this just this person's like their own club in
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: their house. Yeah, they had a club.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure the house itself was very large. It
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: was large. Yes, it was a large house.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, Well I want to pivot a little bit
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: and talk about how you get makeup to stay for
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: hours on end. You're working with a lot of individuals,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: whether we're talking about getting ready before a game and
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: going out for play or going to events. These are
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: people that need their makeup to last. So give me
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: the rundown. What is the secret?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's a pretty good mix of skin
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: prep but also strategy, like knowing what we're doing and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: what look we're trying to achieve, right, and athletes they
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: need makeup that is going to move with them and
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: going to stay and work with them and not against them.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: So I focus heavily on skin prep and barrier repair
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and red light therapy and hydration, and we do a
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: little bit of facial massage, ice rolling lymphatic drainage before
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: we even touch the makeup part. So I just feel
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: like it's all about layering in a way that's breathable
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: and making their skin look like skin, but also something
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be long lasting. So I'll definitely use a
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: setting spray that will cater to the look that we're
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: doing on them. I'm not huge on powders, but if
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I need to use a little bit of powder, I
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: will Wait, what is it that we have against powder?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I personally love a hydrating, glowing look, and I feel
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: like a lot of people can go a little overboard
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: with the powder. So if I do use powder, I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: will use it on what I call like a microbrush,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: so something that's small, like an eyeshadow brush, and just
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: really hit the hot spots where it's a little bit
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: oily or shiny, so maybe in the middle of the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: forehead or on the sides of the nose or the chin,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and just with the smallest amount of powder, just hitting
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: those hot spots. But I feel like with the proper
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: setting spray that's going to give you a long lasting result.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I also think the biggest hack per SE is teaching
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: my clients how to maintain their look throughout the day,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: so utilizing like all touch ups or like maybe there's
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: little blotting papers. For me personally, it's knowing that less
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: is actually more. So I always want the goal is
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: for their looks to be long lasting, but I don't
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: ever want it to feel like overdone or heavy, if
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that makes sense.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: What I'm hearing you say is that skin prep is
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: where it's at now. For a number of years, when
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: it came to athletes, we were seeing a lot of
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: no makeup makeup. And what I love about what's happening
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: right now is there's a really big synergy between makeup
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: companies women in sport. We're seeing Sephora sponsor Unrivaled. I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: mean that's just one small example. How does this make
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: you feel? What are you feeling about the future collaborations
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: between glam and sport?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: So I think that this is really exciting because I
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: feel like this generation of athletes understand that beauty can
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: be utilized as a tool. Makeup is not necessarily a mask, right,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: And I feel like it's all about controlling the look
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and controlling the narrative of how you want to feel.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: These athletes now they're realizing they don't have to fit
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: into like one box and they can be strong and
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: they can be feminine and that can coexist at the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: same time. So glam has become a way, I think,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to take ownership of their own story and their own narrative,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: especially in a space that I feel like for a
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: long time didn't leave a lot of room for that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: For a long time, it was like, oh, it's an athlete,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Like they're just gonna want powder and you know, lip
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: bomb on their lips. And it's like, no, Like, you know,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: some of these women, they want glam, they want flashes,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: they want some blush. They I don't think it's more
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: so like they want to be transformed. But I feel
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like when you look good, you feel good, and it's
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: more about like amplifying the look and showing the world
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: every side of who they are. And I'm just so
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: for it and I'm excited about it. And it's not
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: just the makeup, but it's also the hair, and it's
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: also the wardrobe too.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: In terms of athletes, who would you say is doing
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: it well?
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely biased because I work with, like,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, the most fabulous people, right, But Ali, who's
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, She's like one of my closest friends. But
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like working with her, I love her looks
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: like she you know, has the wardrobe, she has the hair,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: she has the makeup, she has the lashes, she has
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. But also someone like Brianna Stewart, we
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: love some stewing, like we've really nailed down like her
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: look and what she feels most confident in and comfortable in,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and what photographs really nicely and what looks good on camera,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you know, what colors to enhance her blue eyes and
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: what you know, tones maybe to stay away from. So yeah,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I think, but also a lot of the girls, like
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: there's so many players in the WNBA, there's so many
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: players in you know, who play soccer and fall and tennis,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: like just sports across the board that are stepping into
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: their looks and I am just so excited and here
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the WNBA, you also talked about the end
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: of USL. You are the guru for these girls when
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: it comes to makeup. You are someone that has been
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: referred time and time again. Why do you think that
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: that is why do you think you are such a
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: trusted person amongst these ladies.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I definitely think that team culture across the board with
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: these sports is everything, and these women truly do operate
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: like a family, and I feel like trust in these
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: circles are earned and not just given. And you when
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: you're traveling together and competing together and showing up for
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: each other every day, and then you know they might
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: referra or someone like me, or you know, one of
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the hairstylists or one of the wardrobe stylists, I think
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: it means something different. And I think what resonated early
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: on was that I I started working with athletes many
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: years ago, and I really understood their world, and I
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: respected their time and their schedules and their boundaries and
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: just really started to build these relationships that all really
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: have turned into friendships. I never came in trying to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: change who someone was, or you know, also reading the room,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: like if someone is really uncomfortable with a lot of makeup,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: we are not going to do a lot of makeup.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: If someone is comfortable who really wants to cover up
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: some things on her face, we're going to cover up
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: some things on her face. So I think it's just
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: having clear communication and understanding and a level of being comfortable. Yeah,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and I feel like once a few of like the
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: key women trusted me, the rest kind of followed organically
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and it's been great because I mean, these ladies have
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: been incredibly loyal too, which has been amazing, and we
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: have fun and I really try to understand, like I
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: don't do the same look on every single person. I
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: really try to sit down with them and look at
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: their face and see what is going to help with
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: making them feel the most beautiful, confident person on the field,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: off the field, on the court, whatever it is. So yeah,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I think that the trust is really earned. It's really earned,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and we respect each other's boundaries and I show up
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: and they're dedicated.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I'm dedicated.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So I think word of mouth has just been the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: absolute best way to dive deeper into sport. And I
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: just absolutely love supporting these women and being around them.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: They inspire me. We have fun together and yeah.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, so no two faces are the same, but do
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: you have like a standard process that you use.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Let me just start by saying that I absolutely love
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: working with Suebird. She's truly one of my favorite people
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: and we have the best conversations. But something that we
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: have developed over time is what we call the Sue
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Bird method. So she basically okay, so sometimes she really
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't want any makeup, but other times we have to
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: do a little bit more, like when she's on Jimmy
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Fallon or is filming for a documentary or something, and
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: also depends on like what she's wearing and how she's feeling.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: So we developed the Suebird Method, which is like level
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: one is essentially skincare, So it's like we're really focusing
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: on the skin prep, maybe a little like eyebrow grooming,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: maybe you know, some clear Misscara and some lip bomb,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: like something like super clean, polished, no makeup. Then like
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: level two adds a little bit more refinement, right, so
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: it's like maybe like a little bit of like a
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: soft definition. Maybe we do like a light brown Misscara.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe we do like a lip thint that's like so natural. Basically,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: we have level one to level five, and like what
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: we call level five is like wedding glam. That's like
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: we're doing glam. So I think the highest we've ever
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: gone was a level four. I think it was on
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon or Kelly Clarkson maybe both were like, she
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: let me put a few individual lashes on her, and
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: you know, we still did like very neutral tones. But
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: it's funny because now I use this subird method with
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of my clients. So it's just hilarious that
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: we've like developed this like method of glam.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm obsessed with this.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I'm also a massive Suebird fan as a Yukon alumni,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: so and I know each other and I think I
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: don't know if she knows that she used my dream
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: guest for Hurdle, but she's truly like I would just
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: lose it if I had the opportunity to sit down
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: with her specifically for the show. We've had the chance
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: to chat in person before. But if you happen to
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: be listening to this too, this is my love letter
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: to you. Let's do some glam. Let's sit down and
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: let's have a chat for hurdle.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, there you go. Maybe we'll probably do a level one.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Like glam is okay with me? Yeah, related, kind of unrelated.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Do you ever get starstruck?
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Never? Really, I never get starstruck.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: The only time that I had a moment that I
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: actually felt like a little taken back was when I
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: met Lady Gaga. I didn't do her makeup. I did
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Zane Lowe's makeup. He's my client when he's in New York.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Love him.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: He is amazing. He is the best interviewer, Like he
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: is fantastic. He's a creative director Apple Music, and I
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: just absolutely adore working with him. Yeah, and we're always
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: in the room with super powerful people. And there was
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: not that many people in the room with Gaga for
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: the interview, and it was several hours, and he knew.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is my girl, Like I'm a
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: monster like lom Yeah, And I again did not get starstruck.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: But I always said to myself, the moment I'm in
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the same room as Lady Gaga is the moment I
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: know that like I've made it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I'm like, did I make it? How did
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I feel for you?
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I was feeling like I don't know if I made it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like living in a home renovation and like me
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and my boyfriend just broke up, and I'm like, oh
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: my god.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I was like, did I make it? I don't know.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: But it was also super exciting at the same time,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: and she's like so tiny and so beautiful and she
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: has such a strong presence, and I'm just I mean,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: it's Gaga, Like who.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Doesn't love God? Who doesn't love gok you know.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: But that was a really that was the only moment
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I can think of that I was like, again, not starstruck,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: but just like what's the word.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're coming to terms with that.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: You are literally living the life that you said hYP
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: like hypothetical, totally yeah, if I do this, it'll be wild.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: And you're doing it. That's the thing.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you you set these goals for
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: yourself and then you reach the goals and it's like, oh, well,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I guess I got to set a higher goal now.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: So it's like you just keep growing and you keep climbing,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: and you keep setting these goals for yourself. And I
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: think it's important too, because I think, you know, it's
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: important to celebrate the successes and when you reach a goal,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: like you know, sit with it, honor it. But I
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: also think when we are too stagnant for a little
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: too long, like it could be a little depressing. So
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, like hit the goal, Like now what yeah,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you know, so I think it's important to always continue
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: to set the standard tie yea and to continue climbing.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Was there a moment or an experience that taught you
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: that lesson specifically, maybe when you got okay with a
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: little bit of stagnation within your own life, whether it
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: be personally or professionally.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Not necessarily that I can think of. Then I'll flip this.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Would you say that this mentality of always setting the
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: next goal? Yes, you said it's important to celebrate, But
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: would you say that this mentality of what's next has
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: ever been difficult or detrimental to you?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I mean there's also been times where I don't stop.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And it's like that's why I'm like,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: it's so important to like honor that you accomplished a
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: goal and honor that you like, or let's celebrate like
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: you've reached something big, Like let's celebrate it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: But it's like you always like think that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Your world's going to change once you hit this goal
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: or once you get something that you thought you wanted,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and it might feel really good for a minute, but
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: then it's like, okay, like it's important to do the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: work inside. Yeah, it's important to like work on your
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: happiness and work on your mental health. I think constantly,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: because then it's going to feel so much better when
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you reach these goals, and then you can celebrate these
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: goals and then sit with them.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, we got it. We gotta keep going,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: we gotta keep going, We get the cycle.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, someone might hear that and also think yes, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: isn't it tiring? Like isn't it tiring to always be
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: working on yourself? What do you think say when you
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: hear that? Well, like I've heard people like people have
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: asked me before. They're like, you have like so many routines,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Like aren't you exhausted? Let's okay, let's pause, talk to
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: me about the routines, and then let's talk about exciting
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: at the morning routine.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Let's give the morning routine.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me get into the morning routine. I mean,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: we love a good routine. Yeah, I feel like I
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: need a routine because my career is so all over
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the place. And what I mean by that is like
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I'm on my client schedule, I never know I don't
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: even know what country I'm going to be in next week,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you know, like I'm getting literally this morning, I woke
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: up to a client texting me like, can you come
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to Toronto with me in two days?
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Like it's it's just all over.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, for me to have any kind of
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: like stability in my life, I have to have a
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: strong routine. Yea, So my morning routine really starts the
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: night before when I get home. I mean, I only
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: have red lights in my house because I'm like, I
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: don't need like bright lights, and like some people think
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: that's so weird, Like my neighbors are like, are you
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: a witch? Like what's going on in there? Like are
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: you a hooker? Like what's up with the red lights?
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, it's for my circadium rhythms, like
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: for like my nerves to be calm.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I know the benefit it's a red light, but do
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: you want to just like glaze over them for someone
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: who might not?
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, So red light therapy is very different than just
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: red lights in your house. The red lights in my
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: house is basically I don't want to be exposed to
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: blue light once the sun goes down, so I only
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: want to be exposed like amber or very like dim
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: warm or red lights. And that's just to basically help
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the melatonin, you know, balance in your brain hole thing,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: set your circadium rhythm so you're getting the most sleep
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: as possible, RESTful sleep. Red light therapy is a device
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: that was created by NASA and it uses infrared technology,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: uses far and near infrared and basically what it does
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: is it goes through the dermis of your skin. It
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: targets all the mitochondria, which is the powerhouse of you know,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: your cells, and it works to lower inflammation. It creates
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: something called ATP energy, which basically it's just renewing of
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the cell. So it's really great to like wake your
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: cells up if there is inflammation, it's going to help
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: to lower any inflammation. Which is why it's so good
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: for skin. It's not made for skin now it is.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you know, the craze is red light therapy, right,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I mean this has been around for so many years
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and you know for people with joint pain, and I
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: love to bring my red light to prep people's skin.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: But again, because I.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Work with athletes, I'm like, maybe you just want to
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: put this on your knee if you like hurt your
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: knee in a game or something.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: The regenerative benefits exactly, so the night before. We're in
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: our home with red lights. Oh, red light.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: If I am going to listen to music, it's like
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: those that's frequency music or classical music.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: People are already like, who the hell is this woman?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with classical music, like I like, I love
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a classical moment, back.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Chopin, Mozart, like, give it to me, I love it.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I okay, not box Chopin or Mozart, but I do
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: listen to chill jazz in the morning.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Oka, I love that, Okay, we love it.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I just love like a vibe, like I just calm,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: like make me feel like I'm at the spa. Yes, okay,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: So then I like, you know, get into my whole
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: skin carrotin, which is my ritual. Like skincare for me
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: is a ritual like taking my lashes off, my makeup off.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I love polished choice, I love squalen oil. I love
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: using my micro current and just going through like the
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: taking my time with my shower, my skincare, the whole thing.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Like it's just a ritual that I'm obsessed with.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I take my magnesium, I take my nighttime supplements, and
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: then I really try to not be on my phone,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: like an hour before my phone goes on. Do not
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: to serve at seven pm. Sometimes I'm working till ten pm.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: So every day is different. I try so hard to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: like really get to bed at the same time if
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I can. But yeah, so I try not to be
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: on any device for at least an hour before I
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: go to sleep. You and I have that in common,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and it's hard to do. Yeah, Like it is hard
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: to do, especially I feel like we're humans. We're all
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: so addicted to our phones. Like I really wish. I
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a rehab for people for their
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: phone addiction. Oh yeah, and I'll probably go you're probably
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: see be there, they're there. I also put the Wi
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Fi off. Yeah, like I don't need that like near
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: my head. No, we don't need that.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: We don't. We don't have time for that.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Then you go to bed, I do my PMF map
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and I read my book okay.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: And I like to read, usually a biography or something
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: with history at night.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Oh interesting.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, during the day, I love like a entrepreneurial book.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: At night.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Give me all the history, give me all the biographies,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: give me all the things.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and then you wake up.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Then I wake up, Okay, I snuggle with my cats
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: for a little bit. Obviously, my red light therapy machine.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: It's right next to my bed. I'm putting it right
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: on my face. Wakes me right up right. Sitting there
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: for ten minutes, I'll do a little like you know, prayer,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: meditation or affirmations, pet the girls, my cats, and then
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I go tongue scrape. I go drink my water. I
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: put my electrolytes in it. I love the SymbioticA molecular hydrogen.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: You just drop it right in. It's like super hydrating.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like everyone needs to be drinking that. Do
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: my skincare, go to plot my plates. They have like
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: classes at five am, which is great. So if I
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: need to be in the city early, I try to
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: like get in if I have time to go for
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: a walk, I'll go for a walk just like natural
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: light hydration movements to start the day, and then I
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: feel like I can.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Get to it, get to it. So no routine is
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: what I'm hearing, Like, you have nothing? Yeah, yeah, nothing nothing.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's so many things that I'm skipping to. Well,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: long did it take for you to get to a
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: place where you really felt like you dialed in on
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: the components of your routine as they stand.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Right now, not that long like I feel like, I
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: mean really, it was during the pandemic when I was home,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and then when I started doing my rituals and routines,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, I feel really good. I'm going
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: to continue with this. And as I got busy, like
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I just continued to be really diligent.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: As you got busy, meaning that you're also no longer
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: always within your home to take these routines with you. Yeah, okay, yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: And that's a non negotiable for you, depend it has
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: to be otherwise I'm exhausted.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like, I don't want to get inflamed
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: or I don't want the end of nutrious is to
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: come back, and I don't. I want to make sure
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: that I'm feeling my best also so I can show
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: up my best self for my clients.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a beautiful pov. Okay, I have a
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: bunch of questions that I want to get into. We're
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: going to go into rapid fire for ten minutes now
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: before I let you go today. The first question, what
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: should we know about makeup while exercising?
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I don't love a lot of makeup while exercising. And
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: why is that because it can just clog your I
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: mean it can clog your pores. Like I don't love
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: wearing foundation at all during a workout.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: It's just clogging.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to do like a little miscare,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: maybe a little brow fine, okay, but I think maybe
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: just skip it.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Three must haves for an easy everyday makeup routine. Okay,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: a little bit of concealer right in the inner corners
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: of your eyes. Don't need to like bring it out
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: where your crows feed are. That's where you start to
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: see the lines. Just a little bit darkness likes to
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: hide in the inner corner of the eye. So I
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: think just a little bit of concealer.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Blush.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I love like a liquid blush, just a little swipe
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: on the cheeks, just to give you a little glow.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: And I love brows, like even if it's a clear
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: gel brow, just to like lift it up and just
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: lift the face.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: And maybe a little eyelash. Girl, and I think we're
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: good to go.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: You're segueing me into the question love a brow product
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: that makes it look like a laminated look? Do you
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: have any recommendations, and even better if they are sweatproof.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Oh. You know, it's funny. I always use a bar
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: of soap. Oh, a bar of soap, tell us more.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just like a regular bar of soap with a
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: little blank, spoolly wet it and just brush your brows
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  Speaker 1: up and they stay all day.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. That's a hot tip.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: That's a hot tip. Bags under my eyes help? Okay,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: bags on your eyes? I could be from a lot
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: of things. First you want to see like are you hydrated?
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Wait? I love this.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I love that we're going to the root cause before
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: you're like, and this is my favorite concealer totally yeah,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: because I'm all about like getting to the root cause first.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm so big on skincare, and that's also
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: why I have a lot of male clients too, because
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, let's focus on like the skin first and
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: like the root cause of things, and then the makeup
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: is gonna look fabulous. But you know, are you do
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: you have contacts in too long? Maybe you're are you
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: sleeping in your contacts? Are your eyes irritated from something?
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're looking at your phone too much? Maybe you
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: should get the blue blocking glasses. There could be a
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: lot of reasons for under ice circles or darkness. But
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: with that being said, making sure you're sleeping, making sure
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: you're drinking enough water, getting your minerals, doing all the things,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: little cane. Before I get into the makeup ice rolling.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Love a good ice roller. I love a good ice
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I have the skinny Confidential one. But I also I
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: was traveling in London. I didn't have my ice rollers,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: so I just used cold spoons. Yeah, yeah, so I
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: mean you can get real creative with it. You just
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: use an ice cube if you want. Gotcha doesn't need
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: to be fancy. But and then of course just a
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: little concealer right now, really into the Lawless brand. Oh
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I've never heard Yeah Lawless Anni Lawless, she has a
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: fabulous makeup brand.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of brands of you at you recommend a hydrating,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: clean beauty lip color.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Where we're going, I.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Think, say beauty and Lawless I think is a clean
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: brand too, But say beauty.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I love for someone who doesn't know what clean beauty is. Yeah,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: can you expand?
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah? They just they leave out a lot of nasty ingredients.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, makeup isn't the cleanest thing we as women
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and men somehow are.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: As people like to wear makeup.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the most cleanest thing, and a lot
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: of them have different silicones and violate plates or you know,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: all these toxic things in them. But now a lot
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: of brands are aware of this and they're starting to
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: clean up the ingredient list, So there's definitely cleaner alternatives now.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Tip to help make lipstick last on a run. Oh
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: on a run. Oh we want we want to lip
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: that stay baby.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: You want to make sure that your lips are dry
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: before you put on your lipstick.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Then it's going to stay.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: If you put a lip liner on, it's going to
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: stay all day if your lips are dry. I personally
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: don't like my lips dry ever. Yeah, so I'm constantly
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: reapplying you.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: And my best friend she literally cannot move around anywhere
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: without at least one chapstick on her.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: I'm the same way.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Yep, best everyday tinted SPF tinted SPF. I love it Cosmetics.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Their c C cream A little bit goes a long way.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: CEC stands for color correcting.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: They do have an SPF fifty in it, and I
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: absolutely love It's like one of my go to and
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I use it on a lot of my athlete clients.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Last question here, favorite primer and favorite setting spray.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I don't love primer. Oh tell us why. I just
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: think it makes the skin look dry, So you'll just
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: do a moisturizer. I do moisturizer, a really lightweight moisturizer.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Also depends on the skin type. People have different types
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: of skin, so depending on our consult before the makeup application,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I'll use different things. But I very rarely will use
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a primer setting spray. I use religiously. I love the
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: one size, and I like the cosmetics so much.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Good stuff. Yeah.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I could go through questions with you forever, but before
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I let you go today, two more. First question is
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: my girl. So many people come to your Instagram page
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: now and they see a woman that's working with some
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: of their favorite athletes and celebrities. But when you look
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: in the mirror, what is it that you see looking
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: back at you? Oh that's a great question.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: What do I see? I struggled with this. Everything was
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: like during the pandemic.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I related like I always looked at myself
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: as Alex the makeup artist, and then when all that
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: was taken away during the pandemic, I was like, oh, wow,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: who am I? But I'm also like, okay, I'm also
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: a sister, I'm also a daughter. I'm also an artist,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: not just makeup artist, like I love art. I also
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: am like I just started to realize more things about myself.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: So when I look at myself, I also I'm like
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: cheering myself on if that makes sense.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. So you see someone that you're proud of, Yeah,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: that's so special. I'm like, wow, look at me. Go
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: You've got this. You've got this girl.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Right now, you have an opportunity to offer yourself a
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: piece of advice looking back on shortly after you lost
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: your dad, You're in a place where you have to
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: grow up, as you said, quite quick, and there are
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of hurdles that go hand in hand with that.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Knowing what you know, now, what would you tell yourself
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: going through that hurdle moment?
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: It's all going to be okay, Everything is figure outable.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: There is always light at the end of the tunnel.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: There's always light.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: There is always light at the end of the tunnel,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: no matter how dark, how lonely, how sad, how heartbreaking.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Something can feel. It's always going to get better. It's
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: always going to get better, get better. I'm so happy
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: that you were able to come in today. Oh my goodness,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I could wrap with you forever. Tell us how do
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: we keep up with you? How do we follow along
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: with you? Give me the details?
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, you can just follow me along on Instagram at
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Alex Gale.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: That's it, Alex Gale.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast Another
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Hurdle conguered.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.