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Top 10 Left Wingers for 2025-2026 · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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Literally welcome in everybody to Bangor Management, the
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I know. Out of happiness, I want to
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So many things, so many Fourth time for everything.
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It wouldn't be four in a row, so who cares?
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This first world problems. I'm 10 years running in our
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I've recruited everybody to come.
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Recruit. He's not ideal.
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Takes my mask off Orman. No, no that is.
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That is not actually me. OK welcome in y'all.
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As I said already. Sorry that was that was quite
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the lollygag session so I forgot I already welcomed in.
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Today we are doing our top 10 left wings for the 202526
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fantasy hockey season. Very exciting stuff.
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We just finished our episode on our top 10 centres.
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Yeah. Like wait, what?
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Yeah. Shall we begin with our?
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Top 10. Oh my God.
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Can I get a redo? Can I get a redo?
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I'll do the rewind. Thank you.
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Now we begin with our. Honorable mentions, yeah.
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Nice first try. You know, I'm trying to take
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inspiration from like the the Watch Mojo people out there.
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I know you guys know. Watch Mojo.
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But yeah. They do top 10s like no other.
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So yeah, I'm just trying to be like you one day.
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Alright, our honourable mentions for top left wings.
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We've got Clayton Keller, Cole Caufield, Andre Svechnikov, Alex
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to bring it and Matthew Nyes. I mean, I also want to preface
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this by if you listen to the centres kind of same disclaimer,
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but we're definitely taking into account banger banger stats when
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we're. Manger.
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Management this banger management.
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Regular management. We gotta specialize in something
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and we definitely specialize in Bangor category leagues, so
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that's definitely going to influence the rankings.
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I'm kind of it's crazy just to see the quality of players that
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are in the right now because all of these honorable mentions are
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sick fantasy players that I want on my roster.
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Except Andre. Really.
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Everybody's gonna yeah, Smash is our second biggest fan after me,
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and he's gonna draft himself everywhere and just destroy
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fantasy this year. Out of all these guys.
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Though not not actual advice. I would still fade, but.
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But all these guys are going one on my team the most is Clean
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Keller. Though Yeah, agreed.
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Really. Yeah, I think he has a highest
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shots slash point combination. It cost her like in general.
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Just in general, yeah, I think also be the most expensive out
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of this bunch as well. So yeah.
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OK, I think he's gonna produce the most of any of those
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honorable mentions. You guys are higher than 9 on
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NYS than I am and I think NYS is the guy I want the most.
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Really. Yeah, I mean, I, I feel like.
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Really nice. Is is like third or fourth out
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of these? Five really well, just like
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listen like there, there's a lot of back categories there and if
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he does hit 75 points with Matthews, it's pretty fun.
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I don't know that's. My number one is definitely
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Keller. I think he's super underrated
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still maybe being on Utah and before that Arizona, but he put
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up one point like getting 16 points last year.
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He shoots a ton. He's the He's talismanic for
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that Utah team. Fancy Miller entered the room.
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Who said my middle name? Yeah.
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So no, he's he's super great. I tried putting him on the top
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ten. You guys outvoted me but.
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But do you disagree with what what we said or no?
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No, I don't disagree, but. So don't put it like that.
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Throw us under the bus like that.
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I like stirring up some stuff, you know.
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But yeah, no, I'm super hot colour, I think.
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I think he's great. All right, consider the pot
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stirred and let's get into. Number. 10 Nice.
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At #10 of the Dallas Stars, we've got Kevin's worst enemy.
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Yes, Jason Robertson. Last season he had .98 points
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per game, .23 power play points and 2.6 shots.
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I think last year he was like arguably one of the biggest
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fantasy bus picks of like the first half of the season and
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then he kind of salvaged his year by the second-half.
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But I don't know, I feel like he we've seen his ceiling before
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and he's been riding the coattails of that production for
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a while. The last few seasons definitely
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haven't lived up to what we expect from him.
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The biggest thing with the guy of this, you know, archetype of
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player, whereas you, you know, just like points shots, that's
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kind of where you're getting power production, but zeros
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across the board in terms of category coverage for Bangor
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leagues and stuff. So blocks, hits, all that good
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stuff. But he wasn't even shooting that
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much last year. Like he was hovering around two
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shots a game. So what's the difference between
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why am I drafting Jason Robertson in the third round
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last year when I can get, you know, Robert Thomas in the 5th
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and he's getting more points and the same amount of shots, you
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know what I mean? So if he doesn't let.
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Me, let me do the devil's advocate for Robertson and why
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people shouldn't be on him as you are.
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Yeah. So first of all, his 109 point
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season was only three seasons ago.
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OK. Only I guess that's, you know,
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that's a bit. Long time in NHL terms.
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Yeah, but it's not like it was his first season.
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He hasn't done anything since Also last two years he put up
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almost point per game even with even though he wasn't 100 point
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guy. He also hasn't missed a game in
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three years, so it's just nice to have that durability.
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But the biggest thing in terms of last year is that he had a
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foot injury that made him miss training camp.
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And missing training camp is one of those things that I think
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when you haven't done fantasy for a while, you're like, OK,
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the guys healthy to start the season.
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Who cares if you miss training camp?
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Like he should be good to go, you know.
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But the more you do it, the more you notice that often guys who
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have slow starts are the guys who missed training camp because
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training camps there for a reason, you know.
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And you know, you mentioned how he had a really brutal start to
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the year, but then he turned it on 2nd half of the year and was
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right back at that pace that you would expect from him.
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So it really correlates with that injury and missing it.
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This year. He's not injured.
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He's going in fully healthy. He should have that entire
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training camp ahead of him. He's going to want to bounce
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back. And he has ranting in now to
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play with as well. I don't know.
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I think, I think Robertson's gonna have a good year.
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I think there is something to having too many miles to feed on
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dollars. Like we're all happy talking
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about stack, you know, pairing Icon and Marner together and all
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of this. And it feels like when it comes
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to Dallas, we almost count that as a negative.
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But The thing is they do have 3 viable lines that share the
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elite playing time depending on what they need at any given
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moment. But that's why with Roberts, I
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just feel like he hasn't done it in so long.
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His ceiling feels like a flash in the pan compared to if we're
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looking at his other ceiling, the seasons besides that 100
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point season, it's all kind of been around the same level and
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that level is around a point per game and around like 2 1/2 shots
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per game, which is honestly you want that on your fantasy team
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is just depends on the cost. And I feel like recently he's
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just been too expensive for what he's giving you.
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And that's honestly one of the main reasons why I'm lower on
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him. It's just a cost.
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You don't think that Rantanen being on Dallas now is going to
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boost their power play and Robertson's value at all?
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Because I mean, Robertson's left wing, right in his right wing.
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They should both be playing on line, one power play one
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together. No, obviously it's, it's a, it's
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a question, but I don't know, like I just feel like they could
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all be great and all get like 8085 points, but they don't have
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anybody that's a standout that's getting like 100 points.
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You know what I mean? That's what I'm, that's what I'm
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worried about. And I just feel like I'm, I
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don't think he has the elite shot volume and or category
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covers to compare to these other guys that are on this list.
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Where would you be happy to take Robertson?
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What round? You got to give me some, would
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you Rathers? But I mean, all these guys ahead
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of him, I take ahead of him that I don't want to spoil any names.
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That's why he's #10 and not number one, but yeah.
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But I think even like, for me it was, it was really close between
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Keller and Robertson. I argued to put Robertson on the
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list because I feel like I'm in the minority in terms of being
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lower on him in general this season.
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And I feel like most people would take Robertson ahead of
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him because, you know, we've seen the ceiling before.
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So we know what the range of outcomes it's there.
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But yeah, between him and Keller, I feel like you're
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probably drafting Robertson ahead of him just because of ADP
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and what you know. But at the end of the day, like,
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who are you appear to have on your fantasy roster?
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Probably Keller. Yeah, but I think Robertson
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might drop because I think people might be low on him like
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you are. I think that's the big question.
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If people are as low on Robertson as Kevin is, then I'm
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super happy to snatch him up at A at a nice spot.
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You know, if people think that he's still that 100 point guy
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and he gets drafted accordingly, then yeah, I'm feeding him as
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well. Like would you rather have Jason
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Robertson or Nick Suzuki? I think Suzuki.
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That's tough. Probably, probably Suzuki, but I
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mean that's centre versus left wing.
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So that affects things a bit because centre is a bit deeper.
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Robertson or Robert Thomas? Thomas.
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Yeah, and Robert Thomas gets like two shots a game, right?
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So you know, yeah. Robertson or well, let me check
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if he's on our list, Tim Stutzel.
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Stutzel. Stutzel.
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OK, then. I mean, maybe we have an.
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Issue. But to to be to be clear, I
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counted still as a centre. That's why he's not on this
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list. OK, fair.
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Yeah, yeah. Robertson, Robertson or Wyatt
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Johnston. Robertson.
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That's tough for me. That's a good one for me.
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Too. That's so tough.
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For tough for me too. Yeah, same to.
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You actually we just keep projecting why, Johnson to take
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another step up, another step up, another step up, but.
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I mean, Johnson's not gonna be line one, he'll be power play
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one, but he's gonna be like line 3 power play one or line 2 power
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play one or something like that. Whereas Robertsons line one
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power play 1. I don't see why Johnston should
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do better than Robertson. Robertson or Bedard?
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But probably Bedard. Let's get Bedard in here.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So I mean we're talking about a fourth round pick, right.
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So that's that's kind of where we're at right now, fourth
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round. Fifth round is where you go in
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your drafts or where he's projected to go technically.
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Which I think he could return on that about you, but we'll see.
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Let's move on to. #9 #9. Oh my God, great.
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All right, at #9 we have my boy who I will mention in every
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episode that you guys let me Dylan Holloway of the Saint
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Louis Blues. Last season he had .82 points
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per game, .17 power play points, 2.3 shots and 2.1 hits.
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This is a Banger League stud. There this.
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Is like it's, it's amazing. This is a dream.
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Like this is exactly what we want in a bangers league.
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I don't know if he was actually drafted to be that guy and then
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just kind of changed his style on Saint Louis.
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But whatever he did last year was amazing.
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And we spoken about he had that resurgence even when you've got
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even better when Montgomery got there, right?
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So that's just such a good sign and it bodes really well for him
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returning that value this year. We are all high on Saint Louis.
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We've spoken about this a lot. It's not too much more for me to
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say, but realistically he's going to be a huge, huge part of
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this team which is very likely to succeed.
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Yeah, I think we've talked about it a lot, so we don't have to
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talk about it too much. I think we all expect him to be
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hovering around point per game double, double this year.
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And I think that maybe a lot of people haven't caught on yet and
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he doesn't have the name value. So he could be a guy who might
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be able to get later than he should be got.
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I think the the biggest thing would Dylan Holloway is what is
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really great about his value is he has such a strong foundation
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and a floor that even on any given week, let's say he's in a
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slump and he doesn't get the points that you need.
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Like he's still gonna provide in the shots and the hits and you
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can rely on that. So it's not like he's getting
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you straight zeros if one week has an off weekend points.
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And I think that's honestly very underrated when it comes to
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fantasy value because we know how the season is a roller
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coaster on a weekly basis. Anything can happen, right?
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We've seen it like Jonathan Huberdeau, like he's getting
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zeros and then in one given week he's getting like, you know, 10
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points in one week and like, Oh my God, he's back and then
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zeros. But always not that guy.
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He's just gonna be consistent output.
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I think it's stealing is so high this year.
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He he could be way higher on this list next year.
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Josh is gonna take him in the third round of like every
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finance that he's in, so. Which I feel like is a good
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place to take him. Like, I don't know if he's going
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to. Exceed.
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I mean, it's gonna. Be it's gonna be a good.
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ADP. He's not gonna be close to there
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in ADP in your leagues. He's the type of player that you
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have to just screw the rankings and take him when you want to
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take them because somebody's gonna take him ahead of where
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he's going and it'll probably be a good pick.
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Yeah, he'll return on third round, maybe even become a
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second round value guy. Like I don't mind it there at
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all. Would you rather Dylan Holloway
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or Matt Boldy? That's a really hard one.
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That's a really hard. One I like I.
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Like Kevin you offers, Yeah. F word.
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F word. F word Give me Holloway.
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Wow. I know I I did what no man could
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not. I said it.
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Not it's so tough. I see Boldy getting more points
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and more power play points and more shots, but like, not
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necessarily that much in all those categories and then always
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gonna get just way more hits. Yeah.
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So just for the for the vibe of me loving Holloway, I'll go with
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Holloway. Well, that's really.
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Good. I don't know.
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I don't know if I have the balls to do that on draft day though.
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That's the thing. Seeing my boys name still there
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and then seeing how I have to Scroll down and get there on
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Holloway and then choosing one over the other.
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It just feels like it just feels like what's gonna happen is I'm
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gonna be on the clock in a third round and I'm gonna see Boli's
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name there. I'm just gonna be like I could
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just take Bold and get Holloway in the fourth round and then
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Josh would be like 5 pics later and I'm gonna make the decision
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for him. He's doing all away.
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Yeah, I see that happening, Yeah.
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Wow, this next one's interesting.
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I feel like I could have been 9 or 8 interchangeable, but I
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agree with the order for sure. Let's do. #8 but first I also
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want to say no, no, no no on on number. 8 ohm OK, but I just
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feel like there's. Definitely tears when we're
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making this. This list.
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I feel like #10 specifically is a tier in the zone.
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Like I feel like Jason Robertson is not in the same tier as the
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guys ahead of him. And I feel like on our list
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specifically, like 987 are all in the same tier.
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And I can see people having preferences depending on who it
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is. So number. 98.
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Alright hat #8, we have Jake the Snake against all of the Tampa
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Bay Lightning. Last year he was at exactly one
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point per game .35 power play points, 2.7 shots on goal, which
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is actually lower than I expected from him.
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From him I expect usually like around 3, a bit over three shots
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per game. People I feel like have mixed
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feelings on again. So I feel like at this point
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people have a, what is it called?
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Like name fatigue with Denzel, I feel like he's just been at the
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top for so long and he's not a flashy pick anymore.
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People know what they're getting with him, but there's always a
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more exciting option, it feels like.
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But I think it's just gonna be consistent.
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Like playing with Kucherov. Let me shoot me if I say like
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one more time, but he's he's playing with Kucherov on a Tampa
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Bay team that has an elite power play.
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All the all the pieces are there for him to have elite production
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once again. He can be easily over a point
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per game elite child volume as well close to 3A game.
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There's not many guys that you want over him to be honest in.
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Terms of left, I will say something.
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About 7 of them. Something that I noticed that
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was interesting with Denzel stats is last season he had an
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18.9 shooting percentage versus his career average of 15.7.
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So that's three-point 2% higher and he also took fewer shots
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than I would expect from him. So I'm wondering if because of
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the lower shots, the percentage went up or maybe just because
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this was his first year on Tampa, you know, he's not
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playing with Kucherov, so he's getting more goals because
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Kucherov setting up for great opportunities.
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And something interesting to look at maybe this higher goals
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but lower shots is the Jake Cancel on Tampa that you should
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expect instead of expecting him to be 3 plus shots like he's
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been in the past. I mean, we've, we've talked
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about this in the past where if we're seeing something be a
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catalyst for players change in value, like you have to be able
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to attribute it to something if you want to know if the value,
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if the production is going to be consistent, right?
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Either it's a new deployment change, like we spoke about it
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on our wave episodes last year. When there's a guy that's going
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off, like is he going off because he had a random week or
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did he get bumped up the line 1 and he's going off?
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You know what I mean? With Denzel, the career shooting
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percentage versus was on. Tampa, like a change of team is
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one of the most clearest catalysts you can have for a
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change in production. He's playing with one of the
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best passers in the league, so I'm not surprised that shooting
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percentage went up and he scored more points.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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Leave me hanging. Leave me hanging longer.
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No, no, no. I I do agree it's really like
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it's just not exciting to take him.
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Like, it's absolutely it. But that's kind of great, right?
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It's nice getting a guy who you know exactly what you're
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getting. He's not gonna get, he's not
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gonna outperform like crazy what you expect, but he's not gonna
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underperform. He's just gonna get you exactly
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what you're looking for, a solid.
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He won't around one point per game, around three shots.
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You know, you're happy. You take that to the bank.
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Yeah, he won't fall though, that's the thing.
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Like, you know what I mean? Like gonna get picked where
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where he's picking and if you. Want people like that stability.
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People like to know what they're getting.
20:51
He's the type of player that somebody drafts and then
20:54
throughout the year, it's like week 8 and you know, you just
20:57
picked up a guy like you picked up the waiver wire hotness and
21:01
you tried to flip him for the guy that's been stable.
21:03
That's not flashy, you know what I mean?
21:04
I feel like he's just a clear cut trade target that everybody
21:07
tries to like get rid of their guy they just picked up.
21:09
They don't know it's gonna be the same production for the rest
21:11
of the season and level up to that guy that you know is going
21:13
to be safe, you know? He's probably included in the
21:16
most trade offers, been offered four trades of anybody, but I
21:19
couldn't. Get him a lot.
21:20
Last year I was, I was offering, I was overpaying for him.
21:23
Last year I still didn't get him so.
21:25
Yeah, because that's the thing. There's a very strong value to
21:27
that stability of knowing week in and week out what you're
21:30
getting. So like from the outside, it's
21:31
like, oh, look at that, He's not being flashy.
21:33
That guy must be willing to trade him, you know, Whereas the
21:35
guy who owns him is like super happy having him.
21:37
He's like this guy does exactly what I need him to every week
21:40
and that's all I need. Yeah, OK, let's go to the next.
21:46
#7 Alright, at #7 we've got Jake Guentzel's teammate Brandon
21:52
Hagel, One of the biggest surprises of last season.
21:56
He put up 1.1 points per game, a measly .13 power play points and
22:01
2.8 shots, along with a bunch of shorties.
22:04
This was a crazy crazy like this might have been one of the
22:08
biggest draft steals of last year.
22:09
Yeah, I think this. Year is going to be one of the
22:12
biggest deals as well, to be honest.
22:13
I mean, I'm giving out the playbook right now, but I
22:17
desperately want him on my team. He he he could have a 90 point
22:22
ceiling like. This thing, like, look at what
22:24
he did without any, He barely had any power play one time.
22:28
Yeah, barely got any. Problem with that this year.
22:30
Yeah, exactly. The person who had it over him
22:33
was Nick Paul. Yeah, no shit.
22:36
No shit to Nick Paul, but you know, I mean.
22:39
A little shade, OK. I'll try to be nice.
22:42
Yeah, no, this is a guy who, if he gets that power play one
22:46
spot, it's gonna be a whole other level.
22:48
And even without it, he's showing how great he can be.
22:51
Like I mentioned the shorties as well, if your league counts
22:53
that, that's just so nice to have.
22:56
You know, it's not something you necessarily target in the draft
22:58
that much because they feel like they're very, you know, kind of
23:01
random at times. Yeah, but he was pretty
23:03
consistent with it and just a nice little bonus onto
23:06
everything else that he was doing.
23:07
And also like, something crazy is he had exactly his career
23:11
average shooting percentage last year.
23:13
So it's not even you. Know it's reliable.
23:15
That's if you could. Take a step up.
23:16
Yeah, exactly. It's not like he did anything
23:18
crazy in that sense where you're like OK, well it was luck.
23:20
Like no, this is just this was for Tampa.
23:24
This was the anti Tanner genome yes you know they like this was
23:28
a genius move by Tampa getting. Before they had to go for
23:32
Jeanneau. No for sure, but.
23:33
They were trying to do it again, you know, they're like, they're
23:36
like this big brain. So.
23:38
Well, yeah, exactly. Let's trade a whole draft class
23:40
version. Oh, and obviously that didn't
23:41
work out. But yeah, I know he's a beast.
23:44
And I think it's crazy cuz there's no way if you asked
23:47
anyone before last year if they would take haggle over Gensel,
23:51
everyone would say like, no, you're crazy.
23:52
Obviously Gensel's the guy there.
23:54
But now I, I think Hagel deserves to go ahead of if he
23:58
doesn't draft, you know, we'll see what the name value and all
24:01
that, but I think he's gonna bring more value than Denzel is.
24:05
Who would you rather have, Brendan Hagel or yes, Brett?
24:09
I think Brad. It really depends the uh, I
24:13
think he gets. More Power play 1.
24:15
And I think. That's exactly because of that
24:18
risk, because like Brad. Gets like .4 something power
24:22
play points last year per game whereas Hagel had like none.
24:25
So that's because we. Saw Hagel get the amount of
24:29
points you did last year already with the the not power play one
24:35
yeah yeah, it's not about. The total points, it's
24:36
specifically because our league has power play points as a
24:39
category and a lot of value power play points.
24:41
So that's just a big loss, right?
24:42
They got around the same amount of points last year, but Brad
24:45
got way more power play points. So it's like if you were going
24:48
in assuming he's getting power Play 1, then I'm taking Hagel.
24:51
But there is nice. It is something nice about
24:52
drafting a guy and just knowing for a fact that he's not really
24:55
one. I don't have to worry about it
24:56
throughout the season for me. I think it's just I, I mean, we
25:00
talked about, you know, everybody having their own risk
25:02
tolerance. This is one of my shots where I
25:04
take the shot on Hagel without, you know, the guarantee of power
25:06
play wonders because I'm I'm honestly very convinced that you
25:09
will get it. And it's it's not like the bar
25:11
is so low. If he doesn't get it, the bar is
25:13
what he did last year. Yeah, so.
25:15
Imagine what? If he gets power play 1, he
25:17
could like, it's crazy. Like is he going to break 100
25:21
points if you do the math? Like if you do the math, yeah,
25:23
he probably breaks 100 points. Like is he gonna get what I bet
25:26
my house on him, get 100 points? No.
25:29
But if you do the math, I don't know.
25:31
No, I. Honestly, I changed my mind.
25:33
I go here. You've convinced me this is.
25:36
Gonna be like Cooley last year. All over Kevin's, all over the
25:40
guy. Vince is like someone just.
25:43
Like around or what people for me.
25:46
But yeah, but there's a lot of good.
25:47
Helpful content here. Like I didn't even have to use
25:52
my burner this time. That's.
25:59
Amazing. OK, let's go to.
26:03
Number six, Alright, time. To rile Jakey up again.
26:09
And number. 6 We've got the great 6 now.
26:13
I mean the great Alex Ovechkin of the Washington Capitals last
26:17
year. 1.12 points per game .34 power play points, 3.7 shots,
26:21
1.7 hits. But I will say his shooting
26:26
percentage last year was 18.6 versus a career of 13.1.
26:30
That's 5.5 higher. Yeah, that's, that's a very
26:35
interesting part of the the whole thing that like we haven't
26:38
really touched when we spoke about, we spoken about Ovechkin
26:40
probably the most of any player this offseason.
26:43
So you could definitely go look at those episodes also for a bit
26:47
more in depth analysis. But this is a massive
26:50
discrepancy and it's extremely important. 5.5% is a huge swing.
26:56
Like there's like I've been the biggest obsession through this
26:59
whole offseason. I definitely can see his goals
27:02
regressing after looking at this.
27:03
This is crazy. I took.
27:04
With some actual data to help convince you, who would have
27:08
thought? No listen.
27:09
Because I do still think Washington's gonna be a decent
27:12
team. I don't think this is the reason
27:13
that they were good, just because his outside shooting
27:15
percentage. Nevertheless, yeah, I mean, he's
27:18
probably walking away with 15%. Let's not forget that there was
27:22
a huge 3-4 year period where goals were just a lot harder to
27:27
come by than they are today. So I'm sure if Wick, we did this
27:31
over the past two to three years, it's much closer to the
27:33
18 mark. But the 18.6 is very high for
27:37
someone who shoots this much like this is an outlier season.
27:41
So yeah, I could see him getting into the 16 range with meaning
27:44
his goals per game are gonna regress.
27:46
OK, it is what it is. Nevertheless, we love him
27:48
because of his his multi utility.
27:51
I mean his shots and hits are gonna probably still be good.
27:55
So, yeah, and I. Mean as much as I'm like quotes
28:00
air quotes down on over this year.
28:02
Kevin had mentioned something interesting on a previous time
28:05
we spoke about him, which was the fact that he could be going
28:07
for the hits record. You know, that's like it's in
28:10
reach. And if he just starts, you know,
28:12
hitting, he was doing 1.7 last year and he decides I'm gonna be
28:15
hitting like 2.5. Three hits a game.
28:17
You know, all of a sudden this is just a better like Brady
28:21
could, Chuck could Chuck is like, you know, Chuck is going
28:24
like number 567 overall in Vengers leagues.
28:28
So that's definitely something to keep an eye on because it
28:31
could be like. Man OV OV owners can't keep
28:34
getting away with this like it's always the reason why.
28:36
Elite. Even though probably supposed.
28:38
To drop. That's it, let's say.
28:39
Let's say his points per game drops to like .8, you know, and
28:43
his shots dropped to like 3 point, you know, 3.2 or
28:46
something, you know, but then his hits jump up to like 3 or 4
28:49
to monster. Yeah, what?
28:51
They don't deserve this, but so. That's that's definitely
28:53
something to think about. I definitely do think the points
28:56
are slowing down, but the back cats are gonna be there and they
28:59
might even get better because of chasing another record.
29:01
We saw what happened when he was chasing the goal record with
29:03
this 5.5% discrepancy. So it's not crazy to think if he
29:07
decides that's his goal for the season, he's going to make it
29:10
happen. We'll just see.
29:11
We don't know if he cares exactly.
29:14
And I feel it's one of those things that is kind of so
29:16
menial, like how long would you actually hold it for
29:18
realistically as well? So it's like, that's why I'm
29:20
like, OK, I don't think he's actually going to go for that.
29:23
Also put he's 38. He don't actually don't break.
29:30
Russian. Gas is real, but yeah.
29:33
Another. Thing too is like we saw the
29:34
shooting percentage be so high last year.
29:35
Like obviously that's a product of him chasing the record to him
29:39
being set up for success. Like obviously he's already
29:41
given all the empty netters and everything like that, but they
29:44
were setting them up even more this season to really get all
29:47
the opportunities, the greater opportunities to score and is a
29:50
great goal scorer. Obviously still has a touch.
29:52
I think this year definitely takes a step back.
29:54
It's just how big of a step back does he take and does his
29:57
category coverage suffer at all or does it improve with Ovi?
30:02
I I'm I'm over trying to predict exactly what's going to happen
30:06
because on a year to year basis we have no idea and it just
30:09
keeps going. So that's why you still number
30:11
six. If it was up to me, I'd probably
30:13
be lower on this list, but. You're taking Hagel over Ovi.
30:18
I feel really realistically, why wouldn't I?
30:21
Wow. Because of the shots.
30:22
And hits and power play points, I know, but I'm.
30:25
Already convinced I'm already. Yeah, but it just depends how
30:28
bad you think he's gonna slow down.
30:30
Can I see not hitting a point per game this year?
30:32
Yeah, I can see you'll be getting getting 7075 points this
30:36
year and three shots a game. No, I.
30:41
I get, I get where you're going. Like is it the range?
30:43
Of outcomes, you know what I mean?
30:44
Yeah, I'm just saying like he's also older, like he doesn't have
30:46
the record anymore, so if he's banged up, maybe he misses a few
30:49
games. It's going to be interesting to
30:51
see where Jake gets him this year.
30:53
Yeah, second round up. Deal.
30:57
It'd be like that Speaking of Russian guys and kind of, I
31:01
would say a very opposite case then OV we have number.
31:07
Five and. Number.
31:09
We're getting better. We're gonna.
31:10
Remember, that's good we've. Got Artemy Panarin, the bread
31:14
man of the New York Rangers last year, put up 1.1 points per game
31:19
.33 power play points, Three shots on goal and I would say he
31:23
used to be like an automatic elite first round pick, right
31:26
like, and now he jumped up in. Value where he was like, yeah.
31:30
And now like, you may be able to get him as late as like early
31:33
3rd. I mean, usually probably second
31:35
rounds, but you know, I don't think it would be crazy for that
31:39
to happen. And he's only two years away
31:41
from 120 point season and we expect the Rangers to bounce
31:45
back this year. So I think he could be one of
31:47
those early round steals. And I will say, like for a
31:49
while, like Kevin and I kind of agreed to where we were.
31:52
Like Panera is not necessarily type of guy I'm looking for
31:54
because he's a pure points guy who doesn't contribute to other
31:56
stuff. But three shots on goal per
31:58
game, That's like, that's what I'm looking for, you know?
32:01
He just hired though, that should be enough for.
32:02
Sure, that's for sure. But but now if he's getting the
32:05
shots along with that point potential, he's a guy I
32:08
definitely like in round two this year who would rather.
32:11
Have Panarin or Crosby. Hmm, if your league.
32:17
Counts faceoff wins. Then I think you go across the
32:20
answer no. Face off wins no face off.
32:22
Wins. I'm going for Neuron.
32:24
Me too. OK, but not for a.
32:27
Faceoff win league. It's close enough that I I'm
32:29
happy to take Crosby. Panera No.
32:31
Forsberg. Forsberg, I think.
32:37
I think I go Panarin. I think I actually go Panarin.
32:39
Really, Josh, how? I mean, it's just, it's really
32:44
the, the fact that Panarin had good shots last year.
32:46
You know, like obviously Forsberg was at like 3.5 and
32:50
then what, the 1.8 hits. So obviously that's nuts.
32:53
But I think the Rangers are going to have a bounce back.
32:56
Great year. I think Nashville sucks so the
32:59
power play points should be big in planarians favour.
33:02
Pan's had that 120 point season but we know 4 breeze.
33:05
Always good even though I I love.
33:08
Forsberg, it's not. It's not a knock on Forsberg.
33:10
It's more just, uh, you know, saying that, I think Pan's
33:15
really good. I mean, we have a top. 10 for a
33:17
reason, right? So I guess we'll have to talk
33:18
about that a little later. Yeah, but I I definitely like
33:23
Forsberg. I don't know.
33:25
Jake were on Forsberg. Yeah, Forsberg.
33:26
Too, The reason I, I think he's kind of the exact opposite of OV
33:29
is because, I mean, we all think the Rangers are going to be so
33:33
much better and he's going to get the most points on the
33:35
Rangers this year. I mean, maybe JT will JT Miller.
33:37
Maybe I'm on the T train. They're gonna be.
33:40
Together, there's gonna be a fun little beer.
33:42
Bet, though, who do we think gets more points this year,
33:44
Panarin or JT Miller, J? Panarin.
33:48
Beer bet. Let's go.
33:51
Alright, lock it in. I will say that when you're
33:54
making this top ten, I had Forsberg of up in there and I
33:58
just as I was talking about Byron, I just talked myself
34:01
into. That's why I thought you like.
34:04
Still Jake and I over, over over match.
34:06
You do have a Forsberg ahead of him.
34:07
Spoiler alert, but yeah, no. I I, I get while you were
34:10
surprised because I just talked myself into it.
34:13
But but yeah, no, I think I don't know it's you see that
34:18
that 120 point season literally 2 years ago and you see the
34:22
shots from last year and you like put those two things
34:24
together and like that's amazing.
34:26
I just think Panera. Probably get some 90 points.
34:28
I can see Forsberg getting to like just under a point per
34:32
game. So maybe let's say Max 15 points
34:36
difference. 4 will get more shots and 150 more hits.
34:42
Yeah. That's 100 and. 50 more hits
34:45
like Panera is 0 and blocks zero and hits.
34:47
He's getting shots, but it's not like Forsberg doesn't shoot.
34:49
He's one of the best shooters in the league.
34:52
I'm happy taking Forsberg over Panarin.
34:55
Alright, fine, I'm. Back on the Forsberg train.
34:57
Thank. Yeah, yeah.
34:59
But. She's gonna trust me when they
35:01
see how easily I'm sweet. No, but I was.
35:05
Originally, though, I was originally on Forsberg.
35:08
I talked myself into Panarin and I'm back on Forsberg.
35:10
So it wasn't really that with him there.
35:12
Was a blip blip. Like this?
35:15
Next one and Panera and are super, super close though like
35:19
talk about, you know, like I mean Forsberg to me I think is
35:22
in a bit of that league up because of what Kevin just
35:24
mentioned yeah, the different. Archetype as well, but this next
35:27
one is like the same exact type of player.
35:28
Same exact. One we have number.
35:31
Four, I like the. Little clear beforehand we have.
35:38
This is why I've been resting. My throat, I don't need to clear
35:40
it. Nice.
35:42
He's resting his instrument. OK at #4 we have Kyle Connor of
35:50
the Winnipeg Jets. Last year he had 1.18 points per
35:53
game .34 power play points, 3.3 shots and it was a huge breakout
36:00
year for him. He had 36 more points than the
36:03
year before. That's a crazy jump.
36:07
Winnipeg was a. Complete gauntlet last, if you
36:09
like. Everybody broke out, Yeah.
36:11
I mean, Connor's like, he's like the second best player on that
36:14
team after Gabe Vilardi. You know, a nickel in the.
36:18
Jar. Yeah, no, he was the best
36:21
player. Winnipeg had the best power play
36:23
in the league last year. He used to be underrated.
36:25
Even last year mid season, you guys were underrating him.
36:27
You had you guys had THS over him.
36:29
We made a beer bet about it. I was.
36:31
I was a Connor. Hater last year like I I called
36:33
my shot that he wasn't going to do anything out of the ordinary
36:36
than what like he's usually doing, but I mean that was it
36:39
blew up in my face like he yeah, nobody nobody gets 36 more
36:42
points in the year before. Like for a lot of people that
36:44
doubling their production like it's yeah, no, it's.
36:47
Crazy. So I think that it's not just
36:49
you guys. I think everyone now realizes
36:51
that is the real deal and he's gonna go a lot earlier in drafts
36:55
and I think even last year in our draft he went like fourth
36:57
round, so it's not like he was going that late.
36:59
But this year he's a second or third rounder for sure.
37:02
What's the over under? On his points for you 95 I would
37:08
say. 90, 90. Just because.
37:11
Winnipeg was so good and I think.
37:14
All of Winnipeg has to regress like they can't.
37:16
They all played at their ceiling last year.
37:17
Yeah, I just don't Washington. At the West.
37:21
Yeah. Well.
37:22
They're both sort W Yeah, exactly this.
37:26
Yeah, the. Stats are all there.
37:27
The advanced metrics I. Do really like Connor though as
37:32
a pick so even though I think I have an over under 90, you know
37:37
what kinda stands out more than anything last year was his
37:40
assists. Not something that is super
37:43
attached to. That's what created the jumping
37:45
points Yeah cuz. Fort like 41 goals and then the
37:49
year before 343147. It wasn't his career goal year
37:52
but 56 is. He hasn't hit 50 assists before
37:56
in a year ever. So I mean, and also as playoffs
37:59
were monstrous, so that's one thing to note.
38:02
I yeah, I think like a 90 points where I see him, but I also
38:08
think his ceiling could be like 105 and his floor is 85.
38:13
If he breaks 100 I'd be shocked. After the season we had last
38:17
year, I feel like even more things we need to go right.
38:19
He also played 82 games like the year prior.
38:21
He played 65 I think last. Year was his ceiling, but I
38:24
think that's a great feeling to have, yeah.
38:27
For sure like what we expect. Jason Robertson to be.
38:31
Honestly. Yeah, got his shot.
38:33
Keep. Keep kicking him while he's
38:35
down. I'm sorry.
38:37
Yeah, everybody dropped Jason Robertson cause he's about to
38:39
blow up because I keep I keep kicking him while he's down
38:43
gets. More points this year Hagel or
38:45
Connor? Connor.
38:46
Connor. OK.
38:49
OK, fair, but you could get table later, so yeah.
38:52
Haggle later, I think, I think Connor is gonna end up getting
38:54
drafted in the second round and I just feel like that's a little
38:57
bit too rich for my for my money.
38:59
That's fair, I agree. I love Connor, but I do think he
39:02
gets drafted too early, yeah. Alright. #3 Yeah, put on
39:12
purpose, not. Figure this out.
39:16
Nobody's looking at the camera because I was watching you guys,
39:18
but yeah #3. But then he didn't say it.
39:21
I know. I wanna see what you.
39:21
Guys were going to say that you're the.
39:23
Guy, you're the you're. The one from the thing right #3
39:28
we've got the much talked about Phillip Forsberg, the
39:32
alliteration king of Nashville. Everybody calls.
39:37
Him that. Last year he had .93 points per
39:41
game, .32 power play points, 3.4 shots and 1.8 hits.
39:49
Yeah, we didn't. Love having him for the first.
39:51
Half of the year for two main reasons.
39:53
One, because he sucked and two because Josh just always tried
39:57
to Bylo. It was brutal.
39:59
It wasn't just me, it was Kevin. Too.
40:01
Yeah, yeah, you're on. You're.
40:04
On that like scavengers. Vultures ready to pound?
40:10
Yeah, exactly. About pounds, but yes, I.
40:13
Actually think, though, it's gonna be the same story with
40:15
him, which kind of makes me want to fade, even though I I really
40:19
think when it's all said and done, he returns.
40:21
This averages will be there, but if you look at it on a point per
40:23
game, I could see it being a pain in the behind to own him
40:27
because Nashville does suck. And I think they'll be minorly
40:31
less bad, but not monumentally less bad.
40:34
And if that happens, you're basically gonna get like four
40:38
points, four games of like one point.
40:41
And in that span maybe like an assist and like three shots a
40:45
game. And then five games in a row he
40:48
gets 10 points, six shots a game, four hits a game.
40:51
Like, it's gonna be nuts, but it's like super.
40:55
Inconsistent, like the inverse Gensel, right?
40:58
The Gensel we were taking is like just the stable guy who
41:00
like, yeah, doesn't do anything crazy, but you know, he does it.
41:03
Just exactly what you need from him every week.
41:06
It's. Like you said like he just
41:07
doesn't show up sometimes and then just is the best player in
41:10
the world other times also. Doesn't show that he's still
41:14
getting your shots and hits Forsberg ranks.
41:16
Higher on the hot crazy scale than Gensel for sure.
41:21
Like absolutely. But yeah, you're right, Kevin,
41:24
he does. He does have that nice back
41:26
category floor because it's Schultz are decent.
41:28
It's not like the games that he doesn't do much, It's not like
41:31
it doesn't shoot or hit. He's there.
41:33
It's just like you're drafting. This is high draft capital, like
41:37
mid second probably. That's where I picked the mid
41:40
delete. 2nd serves to be picked there.
41:42
Again. And realistically, it's just
41:44
gonna be so inconsistent. I I'm, I'm, I wanna be
41:49
optimistic. I wanna be optimistic and feel
41:51
like Nashville figures stuff out and they just can't be as
41:55
inconsistent or bad as they were last year.
41:57
Like there's too many good players on this team for it to
41:59
completely fall apart once again.
42:02
I am, I am, I, am I delusional? Like I, I wanna believe this.
42:05
I wanna believe Nashville is a good team that has good players
42:07
that maybe don't have playoff team, but they're not the third
42:10
one team in the Sound. You sound like all of us.
42:13
The entire year last year, we kept being like, that was the
42:16
one. Being natural is not coming
42:17
back, but the. Entire Jiggy and I feel like
42:22
we're both like, they can't keep being this bad, right?
42:24
They'll turn it around, you know, And it's like March and
42:27
we're like, it might be a bit late to turn.
42:29
Exactly. And yet we still wanted him on
42:32
our fantasy team is all still tried to buy low and he was
42:34
still like really productive. And we saw what he did in the
42:37
second-half of the season. Like it's only Nashville was
42:39
that much better of a team and the second-half of the season
42:41
they were in the beginning. And yet he like his production
42:43
was insane. So it just goes to show that you
42:46
know, whether the quality of the team is good or bad, like he can
42:48
still produce at an elite level. He's still one of the best power
42:51
forwards in the league. Like nobody shoots and hits like
42:53
him besides a few guys. So even if he's just, you don't
42:57
want to own. That type of the guy who doesn't
42:59
show up for three months and then, you know, turns it on for
43:01
the next second-half. You want a guy who's gonna
43:04
average out these averages for the entire season?
43:06
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I agree.
43:08
I just feel like it's a, it can be like 3 months of zeros and
43:12
then the rest of the season is back to like double his usual
43:15
production, you know what I mean?
43:16
So yeah, I think. All of us are still taking him
43:18
if he's available at the right spot.
43:20
Do you? Take bark off or forsberg.
43:28
Kevin, you go first. I had both.
43:32
So I'm, I think, curious. Where you guys are?
43:34
At I have to go. Forsberg Yeah.
43:37
It's the shots in the hits. It's the shots in the hits.
43:40
Yeah, agreed. Especially because I usually
43:41
feed face off wins so I gotta go forsberg.
43:45
I see. Also, look, there's something to
43:46
be said. 76 points and 82 last year and the year before was 94
43:50
and 82. Nashville have gotten.
43:53
Yeah, literally. Should have gotten.
43:55
Better and they just got worse like did they get rid of anybody
43:58
significant going into last year?
44:00
I don't think so. They signed a.
44:02
Bunch of free agents. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
44:04
Like. They didn't get rid of anyone,
44:06
they just added action by addition.
44:09
Honestly. It's it's such a confusing thing
44:13
because they were a playoff team two years ago.
44:15
Yeah. It just doesn't make sense.
44:17
So like, I'm kind of with Kevin here, but I I, I don't wanna be
44:20
me last year. So I I just feel like they're
44:23
they're a good team to fade. He's literally the only player I
44:25
would want on my fantasy team from this.
44:27
Now you would take. Yoshi at the right price.
44:29
I mean, The thing is you won't get the right price, but yeah,
44:32
yeah, yeah. Definitely.
44:33
Listen, I mean, it's all drop Stamkos, but probably not where
44:38
he's going. Yeah, that's.
44:39
Fair. Would you rather have?
44:40
Forsberg or Jack Hughes? Give me Hughes.
44:45
I'm also. On Hughes, I guess like the.
44:48
Difference here 30 points. The difference here?
44:50
With this is like the Panarin 1 is that Hugh shoots more than
44:55
Forsberg. So Force we're really the only
44:58
bonus is the hits, whereas with the band you were getting the
45:01
shots and the hits, Yeah. Dual eligibility with huge too.
45:04
It makes it a big difference. Yeah, would.
45:07
You rather have Forsberg or Evan Bouchard?
45:11
Forsberg. OK, I think you get a similar
45:16
amount. Of points, to be honest.
45:17
So it's just a once coming from a defenseman, once coming from a
45:20
forward. Yeah, yeah.
45:22
Alright, let's get into #2. You.
45:30
Thank you for that. Right.
45:33
Yeah, we could. We could.
45:34
We could do. We could play with this.
45:36
We'll see. This is good all.
45:38
Right #2 We've got Kirill Kaprizov, the alliteration king
45:43
of Minnesota that can best. Krill in the league for.
45:49
Real the thrill. Last year he put up 1.37 points
45:54
per game .34 power play points, 3.5 shots.
45:59
Just crazy how he just keeps getting better every single
46:01
year. I know.
46:02
I mean so good. Doesn't compare to Matthew
46:05
noises. 80 points per game, but I mean, it's pretty.
46:07
It's pretty good, but it's cute. I mean, he, he's.
46:11
An elite guy. I think we can see, I think this
46:14
year he could, you know, transition into being like a
46:17
cultural tier player. Like he has it in his range of
46:19
outcomes. We know how elite he is and it's
46:22
a career. It's a contract year for him.
46:24
It's a contract. Year for him, and I think
46:26
Minnesota is poised to take a big jump this year.
46:28
They have a lot of talent. You know the the books, right?
46:32
Yeah. And we?
46:33
Talked about the like contract year, like when does it matter?
46:35
When does it not matter? But I think Caprice off it
46:38
matters because he needs to prove that he deserves like
46:41
McDavid McKinnon money, yes. And so if he has a season like
46:45
that, he's gonna get paid like those guys.
46:47
And he he definitely has the skill to do it.
46:50
I think he's gonna hurt last year.
46:51
He did get here last year. Really.
46:53
Really. Like 41 games he played only 56.
46:55
I mean, he would have gone 112 points with that pace, which
46:59
first of all, quick maps, second of all, so second of all, he is
47:04
such an amazing player. And I completely agree, Kevin, I
47:09
think he ends up in that cultural conversation going into
47:11
next year. So where are you?
47:13
Guys taking him in the draft, OK, we've got the obvious top 4,
47:17
right? And then that's cool.
47:20
Are those? Really quickly for the
47:21
listeners, just like it should be obvious, but just in case,
47:23
so. Cannon, McDavid, Tricycle,
47:25
Kucherov as the top 4 right? Then let's say your pick, you
47:30
know, 567, whatever that cluster is kind of like Pasta Matthews,
47:35
Brady could Chuck and then, you know, it's crazy off part of
47:39
that cluster. Can you take him over any of
47:41
those three guys? Yes.
47:43
I think I would think Pasta ahead of him just because we
47:45
know what we're getting with Pasta.
47:46
He's like one of the most consistent players at delivering
47:48
what you expect from him. But then after Pasta, I think I
47:52
think Resolve is a top seven pick.
47:54
Like maybe you go Macar cuz you want the defensive.
47:57
The defensive tactic capris off over Matthews.
48:01
Wow. I wouldn't, but the fact that
48:04
it's a debate is something you take a preserve.
48:06
Over Brady. It depends if you're in, if
48:09
you're in a bangers league. If you're in a bangers league I
48:14
feel you have to take Brady over over a Kaprizov.
48:18
But in non bangers leagues obviously it's Kaprizov.
48:20
OK, that puts. Around France, Matthews.
48:23
And Kaprizov, yes, around overall, I take JT.
48:26
Over Kaprizov. So to me he's 9.
48:30
Wow. OK, which I'm.
48:31
Very happy with considering the better second round pick that I
48:35
could get. I'd rather like him at 9:00 then
48:37
pass that 6 as an example. I'm convinced of JT's successes.
48:40
You're at a high level, but I don't know if I have the balls
48:43
to take him over. I'm taking.
48:45
Capris over JT but like, I don't know, I just think that like
48:49
Kevin said, Kaprizov can have like a controv season like
48:53
that's that's not crazy to think The thing is.
48:56
You you can pair Kaprizov at, let's say, I don't know, 8 right
49:03
with Kyle Connor or like in round two.
49:08
But if he had JT and Kyle Connor, I'm happier with that
49:11
one too, cuz there's something about the fact that could
49:14
resolve is just more one-dimensional.
49:15
He's yeah, I mean, I guess we're.
49:17
Talking roster construction but I mean like shoots a ton.
49:20
Like honestly I think Kaprizov pasta is a discussion cuz
49:24
normally I would go past for sure but Boston sucks I know
49:27
but. Minnesota getting better.
49:29
I would bet my house on pasta shooting more.
49:33
That's a. That's what I mean.
49:35
Let's say Pastas four shots on goal per game and Kaprizov has
49:37
3.5 like he did last season. Well let's say Caprice off gets
49:40
like 20 more points. Hmm.
49:44
So, yeah, I, I don't think if you're giving me 20 more points,
49:47
give me Kaprizov. But to me, I don't think it'll
49:50
be 20 more points. But listen, that's it's in this
49:52
range of outcomes like I think there's.
49:54
Something to think about I would you have hit 112?
49:57
Last year. And that's if we didn't expect
50:01
his piece to get even better. And, you know, the averages are
50:04
also influenced by the games he was hurt and like, the games he
50:06
just came back from and whatever.
50:08
Yeah, that's what. I'm saying so that's I think
50:09
he's gonna have a month or year. I also.
50:12
Agree, he's gonna have a monster year and I don't think.
50:14
Austin's gonna suck, Boston. Is going to suck, but does have
50:18
the best playoff schedule. So yes, that is a big one.
50:22
That's just. It's.
50:24
Honestly, the thing that I want the decision to be made for me,
50:27
I'll take whoever falls and I'll be happy about.
50:29
Yeah. That's why it's just further.
50:31
Record for our listeners because they're coming here for advice.
50:35
Let's three of us say who, which one we would take.
50:38
Capital Pasta. Pasta, Pasta, I'm gonna say I.
50:43
Have to I have to double check Minnesota's playoff schedule.
50:47
I don't know if any of you have it on hand this quickly.
50:51
Wait one second. I have it right here.
50:54
OK. Minnesota, OK.
50:57
They actually don't have a very good playoff schedule.
50:59
So it's just 333. No.
51:01
There are three three. Three versus past US 444.
51:03
So give me pasta. But for me, that's the big.
51:06
I actually think Kaprizov is gonna have a better regular
51:08
season, but the playoff schedule like one extra game each week is
51:12
just is just a big bonus I. I think for me, honestly, it's a
51:18
discussion. I just spoke myself into this,
51:20
but Kaprizov and Matthews, I think that's honestly a bigger
51:24
question than I thought before this conversation right now.
51:27
So you think? So after the forego you would
51:29
take Pasternak, then Brady, and then math user Kaprizov I think.
51:35
That's what it is for me right now, Dang.
51:38
I'm. Looking at that kind of thing as
51:40
well. I mean honestly, Brady could be
51:42
above pasta depending on how you wanna build your team.
51:44
Can I just? Say #1 yes, we may as well just
51:48
keep going number. One, we've got Brady Kuchuk,
51:52
Exactly. King of Ottawa.
51:56
He hates the. Literation, but he loves making
51:58
your fantasy team amazing. So last year we could just
52:02
continue. Where we left off.
52:03
Last year stats quickly .76 points .32 power play points 1.7
52:08
Pimms, 4.1 shots, 3.2 hits. That's crazy.
52:13
He breaks his. Leagues almost.
52:15
Half the points of Kaprizov, of these other guys, and it's still
52:22
he's #1 and I think we're all easily like, fun fact, I was.
52:26
As I was like building like working on these top 10s for
52:30
fun, I was testing Eva. I was like, do you think you can
52:33
guess? Like, you know, like the top and
52:35
left wings were pudding. And it was his wife, by the way.
52:38
Yeah. And as a hint, I told her for #1
52:41
left wing. He's the only guy in the list
52:43
who's not a point per game or higher.
52:45
And immediately she's, like, ready.
52:46
Kuchuk. Yeah.
52:47
Wow. That just that.
52:48
Just like he's known for. His backpacks are so strong.
52:52
Yeah. She actually listens when I talk
52:54
about fantasy, which is pretty nuts.
52:56
Remember stuff, too. It's crazy.
52:59
Talk about all the time that is also.
53:01
Fair. But we have a young baby, you
53:04
know, she could be focused on other stuff, but she still
53:05
remembers. But, uh, But yeah, like, he is
53:09
the one guy who, like, is less than a point per game.
53:11
Yeah. You're putting him above all
53:13
these massive point guys on this list, and no one bats an eye.
53:16
Everyone's like, yes, that's how insane his other categories are.
53:19
Yeah, you know. What like the only thing that I
53:23
see for regression for Brady is points positive regression?
53:26
That's exactly. Fully agree.
53:28
Yeah, it's incredible. Like last year was an off year
53:31
for him. Like the year before 74, the
53:33
year before 83. Imagine he gets 90 points.
53:35
If he gets 90 points, he deserves to probably be. 4th
53:40
over Kooch. I would say honestly there's.
53:44
A lot of people who will argue that regardless, like of 90
53:48
points, like they will say he belongs in that top four there.
53:51
And if they're playing in a specific league, the same one
53:54
that we are in, which is a Bangers Cats league that
53:56
includes Pimms, a lot of people are of the opinion that he
53:59
belongs at #4 if not even breaking that top three and
54:03
being above Dry Sydal. That's how highly people think
54:05
of Rainy. Give us everything.
54:06
Face offs too, like yeah. He's.
54:09
So, so good. And that's why to me, like I
54:12
think this is a tier break between him and Kaprizov, even
54:14
though, like you guys are making lot of compelling arguments, but
54:18
I still think he's he's the number one left wing I.
54:22
Completely agree, I've never had Brady on one of my teams but
54:25
I've played against him a bunch of times and it's like the worst
54:28
thing ever. Worst.
54:30
It's the worst. Like he'll play one game and he
54:32
can get you 7 shots, six hits and 25 Pimms and you're like
54:38
what the hell just happened? It just makes it not.
54:40
Fun, yeah. Honestly also have.
54:44
Him which case you're on. This is, this is what I that's
54:48
where I want to end up in the draft.
54:49
I wanna be like, you know where to get.
54:51
Brady at the lowest point possible, Yes, exactly.
54:53
Yeah, his. Playoffs could be like 6344.
54:56
I know get. Looking at that Brady for.
54:59
Four games in the semis, and that's literally.
55:01
Guaranteed like 3 categories right there.
55:03
Like you're winning, pimp shots and hits.
55:05
Yeah, that's it, you know? Like, obviously you know exactly
55:08
what you're doing. Matters.
55:09
I think over. Matthews yeah, for sure.
55:12
I. Would take him over Matthews as
55:13
well I think. I'm talking myself.
55:16
Into taking him like over past that this no.
55:19
More we talk about the hope we get and I think every year it
55:22
gets more exciting to draft Brady because the Ottawa
55:25
Senators get better every year. So yes, OK.
55:28
His points foundation like floor is scaling with the team and so
55:33
his ceiling also gets higher and wouldn't be surprised if he has
55:36
his best point season yet this year.
55:38
No, I wouldn't be surprised honestly, probably expected.
55:40
So Jake Sanderson. 'S gonna take a huge step up and
55:43
so is Dylan Cousins. That top step is going to be
55:46
amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:47
It's just it's it's a recipe for success and then some.
55:51
I mean, he's not he's not as skilled as Matthew, but there is
55:56
something to be said for the fact that, like Matthew, no one
55:59
bats an eye and saying he's gonna get 100 points.
56:00
And maybe Brady could do that. Like, he's always in the right
56:03
place at the right time. He is the centerpiece of this
56:05
team. Fans love him.
56:07
Like he's talismanic. I'd say word.
56:11
Honestly, I don't know if. That's ever been used before.
56:14
Talismanic to Chuck. That's a That's a ton.
56:17
Yeah, that's a tongue twister. Fine.
56:18
Chuck by itself is hard enough. Honestly, after this podcast
56:24
I've literally talked myself into dropping Matthew
56:27
significantly in my rankings and I'm talking myself.
56:30
Into Chuck at five. Yeah, between ketchup and.
56:33
Pasta honestly could be really close.
56:35
I think for me right now, I guess we'll end on this, but
56:37
like my rankings right now is like McKinnon, McDavid,
56:40
Draisaitl, Kucherov between pasta and Brady.
56:45
Like probably still pasta by smidge, but I just I just maybe
56:50
I just really want Brady on my team and then probably Kaprizov
56:53
and Matthews after I'd be so. Happy with four just because no
56:57
one's gonna know if I'm gonna take couture or ready to Chuck.
57:00
I mean, whatever that. File is gonna be blessed. 5 is
57:04
where I I wanted because yeah, but an argument.
57:07
Just being like Jimmy 9 or and I'll think the last guy of that
57:11
bunch, yeah. Yeah.
57:13
Should we Should we wrap it up? 12/13/14.
57:18
Sad about that? Yeah.
57:20
Yeah, that's. OK, we could just watch other
57:21
people have fun, which is OK guys, this was great.
57:26
The left wings super spicy, especially around the top.
57:29
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57:33
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57:35
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