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#2081 Crapsules - Kate Save · The You Project

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Speaker 1: A good a team. You're bloody champions. Welcome to another
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Speaker 1: installment of the Project About You. I've got two amazing
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Speaker 1: women on my screen, Tiffany and Cook over there at
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Speaker 1: typ Central, the life force, the blood that flows through
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Speaker 1: the typ veins, the heartbeat of the organization. And Kate.
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Speaker 2: What's your middle name, Kate Patricia?
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Speaker 1: I think you've told me that before, Kate Patricia said,
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Speaker 1: we'll start off with the boss, Tiffany and Cook.
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Speaker 2: Hello, Cookie, how are you good morning? I'm very good.
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Speaker 2: I was just telling Kate how much I'm loving the
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Speaker 2: sunshine now.
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Speaker 1: Oh, the sun is shining. The birds are fucking chirping,
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Speaker 1: and the bees are buzzing. And when I talk to
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Speaker 1: Mary Harper every day, she's like, oh, it's a good
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Speaker 1: day up here.
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Speaker 2: It's warm.
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Speaker 1: I tell you what, bloody. Oh shed My bones were
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Speaker 1: freezing the other day. You know my bones. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: were they Mary?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bloody. You know. I had gloves and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, God, bless her a little angel. But yes,
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Speaker 1: it is. It's going to be like we're recording this
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday the sixth. It's going to be like forty
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Speaker 1: degrees tomorrow or something.
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Speaker 2: Wow, it's not gonna be killing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm keeping my little skin cancer prone
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Speaker 1: body out of the fucking uvs. Don't worry. I walk
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Speaker 1: down the street looking like a fucking covert operative doing
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Speaker 1: a fucking deep jungle surveillance mission. No, I realize that sometimes,
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Speaker 1: you know, when you walk across the road, you see
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Speaker 1: yourself in the window of a shop, I think, fuck,
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Speaker 1: I look I either look like the worst homeless person
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Speaker 1: because nothing to my shit matches no disrespect timeless people,
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Speaker 1: or I look like some kind of criminal, or like,
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Speaker 1: I look terrifying. So then I so then what I
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Speaker 1: do is to counteract the terror, I smile at people.
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Speaker 1: That makes it worse. They're like, oh my god, the
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Speaker 1: creepy sociopath. He's smiling. Now I'm really terrified. So I'm
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Speaker 1: a little bit conflicted. If either of you have got
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Speaker 1: a solution, just let me know.
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Speaker 2: It's a motorbike that really takes it up the next
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Speaker 2: level too.
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Speaker 1: Well. The motorbike is yeah, well, when I'm just talking
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Speaker 1: about walking out, yeah, if you're on the motorbike, one
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Speaker 1: of my motorbikes is I shouldn't say it, I won't
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Speaker 1: say it, but it's pretty fucking loud. Let's just say that,
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Speaker 1: shout out to the RTA. And if I ride through
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Speaker 1: the middle of cars, which is you're allowed to do
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Speaker 1: when the cars are stopped at traffic lights, it's called
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Speaker 1: lane splitting. It's fair to say it sounds like there's
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Speaker 1: a fucking tornado coming through, or a volcano or some
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Speaker 1: kind of earthquake coming through, and I just tinker through there.
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Speaker 1: But what's funny, Kate, We'll shut up. I'll shut up
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Speaker 1: after this is depending on which motorbike come on. If
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Speaker 1: I'm on the little, tiny, little Weeni scooter, which is
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Speaker 1: a one point fifty, which wouldn't pull Nanna off the
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Speaker 1: bloody potty. It's got like four horse power. Sorry, we
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Speaker 1: just had a quick adjustment everyone. But anyway, depending on
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Speaker 1: what bike I'm on, people will either look at me
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Speaker 1: up and down like I'm some kind of vagrant, or
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Speaker 1: absolutely totally avoid my stare and just they will not
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Speaker 1: look at me or the bike. Or but I don't
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Speaker 1: like that because I'm friendly. I'm like Humphrey Beer with
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Speaker 1: two wheels under me. But they don't know that.
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Speaker 2: I didn't realize how much fun motorbikes were. My girlfriend's
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Speaker 2: a cop and she took me on the back of
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Speaker 2: her motorbike. And I just thought, you know, just getting
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Speaker 2: on a motorbike like you did when you were sort
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Speaker 2: of kids, and I don't know. And I got on
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Speaker 2: and I was like, it was terrifying. She's like, my
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Speaker 2: inner thigh muscles were squeezing her so tight that she
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Speaker 2: thought her body was going to go numb. She's like,
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Speaker 2: you've stopped circulation to my lower body. Can you stop
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Speaker 2: squeezing me? Because I didn't want to grab her and
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Speaker 2: choke her, so I was just hanging on with my
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Speaker 2: legs for dear life.
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Speaker 1: That's so funny. Well, you know, Tiffany Ankle has got
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Speaker 1: a very high power motorcycle theirself, do you know?
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Speaker 2: No, Okay, terrifying, join the crew. It's the betest fun.
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Speaker 2: It was a massive I was like, people do this
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Speaker 2: all day every day like that height. It's fun. It's
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Speaker 2: a lot of fun, so scary. I'm glad it's loud
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Speaker 2: because then I feel like I'm less likely to get
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Speaker 2: hit by a car. The louder it is, the more
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Speaker 2: you hear it coming.
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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about And like I'd hate to
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Speaker 1: bring up psychology, but you know, it's me. What's interesting
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Speaker 1: is you can put someone on the back, they'll have
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Speaker 1: the best experience ever, and their body will be producing
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Speaker 1: all these great hormones and you know, their their heart
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Speaker 1: rate will be relatively low, and they'll be like, they'll
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Speaker 1: just be having the best time psychologically, emotionally and even physiologically,
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Speaker 1: just joy. And you could take someone else on the
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Speaker 1: exact same route, same speed, same everything, and they're on
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Speaker 1: the back having a fucking total meltdown, and you're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: this is so interesting because I've had that before where
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Speaker 1: I'm tinkering along with someone and I had somebody just
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Speaker 1: hit like basically hit me so hard. I'm like, what
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Speaker 1: They're like, pull over, Piliver, pilover, And we weren't doing anything,
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Speaker 1: and they got off and they wouldn't get back on,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like and they I mean, they were safe
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Speaker 1: or as safe as you can be with me, which
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Speaker 1: is relatively safe. But yeah, and it's like nothing had happened.
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Speaker 1: They were just they actually had started to have a
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Speaker 1: panic attack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you have other
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Speaker 1: people who are like they've never been on we get home,
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Speaker 1: We've done a fifteen minute kid quick buzz around, we
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Speaker 1: get home and they're like, can we go again? It's
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Speaker 1: like it's like lunar park for free.
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Speaker 2: But it's so funny that it's like a roller coaster.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that individual psychological and emotional response to the
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Speaker 1: same stimulus. I find that shit fascinating, you know, because
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Speaker 1: we're always talking about how reality is subjective. So for
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Speaker 1: one person it's literally terrifying, but the exact same thing
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Speaker 1: for someone else is just joyful. Think about that. That's
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Speaker 1: fucking it.
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Speaker 2: It's unpredictable. I think that's a scary bit for me,
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Speaker 2: Like I will jump out of a plane. I've jumped
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Speaker 2: out with my own parachute, not with people with me,
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Speaker 2: and had to pull my own parachute. But I was
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Speaker 2: in control of it, and I knew where I was
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Speaker 2: going and it was down, and I knew what feet
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Speaker 2: I had to get to before I pulled the court
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Speaker 2: on the back of someone else's motorbike, I don't know
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Speaker 2: what's in front of me, I don't know what's coming
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Speaker 2: up and where we're going. And yeah, I think it
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Speaker 2: was the unpredictability of it.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think firstly, it's hilarious that you think you're
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Speaker 1: totally in control with a parachute because you're fucking knowed.
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Speaker 1: That's hilarious, you know, if you were exactly, But you're
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Speaker 1: much more in control than sitting on the back on
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Speaker 1: the back of somebody. I'm with you. I I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is hilarious, but I would not get on the
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Speaker 1: back of somebody's because I just don't trust people. I
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Speaker 1: trust me, which is probably arrogant, but I just know,
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Speaker 1: like I've never I shouldn't even say it, but I've
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Speaker 1: never had an accident. Nobody's ever been hurt on the
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Speaker 1: back with me, and I intend to keep it that way.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm quite particular about who
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Speaker 1: I let on the back. And somebody on this particular
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Speaker 1: show hadn't been on a motorbike for years and then
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Speaker 1: got on the back of one of mine and then
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Speaker 1: got off. And when that's it, I'm buying a motorbike
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Speaker 1: and literally within fucking five days had a motorbike.
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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, yeah, the motorbike. I was like, I remember this,
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Speaker 2: that's wow.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Then she went out and bought like a
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Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty cc fucking high performance Japanese fucking rocket.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, could you not have started off with
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Speaker 1: I don't know, like a scooter nut. Let's just go
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Speaker 1: for the formula one. Let's start that, all right. So
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Speaker 1: I know you want to talk about a couple of things.
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you one thing first, which is
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Speaker 1: unrelated to where we're going. I want to talk to
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Speaker 1: you for a minute about fiber because somebody was telling
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Speaker 1: me today. A friend of mine who's doing a master's
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Speaker 1: in nutrition, said, I don't know about this, but like
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Speaker 1: they read that or somebody one of their lecturers had
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Speaker 1: said that, um, you should have fiber with every meal,
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Speaker 1: Like every time you have protein, you should have fiber.
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Speaker 1: Whereas I will often have just something which is like
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Speaker 1: chicken skewers and a bit of peanut sauce, so there's
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Speaker 1: no really other than maybe a gram or two of
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Speaker 1: sugar in the peanut sauce maybe, but essentially just protein.
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Speaker 1: Most meals I would have both protein and carbs and fat.
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on fiber?
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Speaker 2: So your human body is outnumbered by bacterial cells one
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Speaker 2: point three to one when you are eating your protein
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Speaker 2: carbohydrating quickly processed foods, which is not in that meal
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Speaker 2: the proteins you know, slowly digesting food, but your gut.
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Speaker 2: Bacteria only eat fiber, so when you eat, you need
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Speaker 2: to feed the other half of your body, or what
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Speaker 2: is more than half of your body, So your bacteria
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Speaker 2: only feast on the things you don't digest. So you
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Speaker 2: are digesting that protein, you're going to digest the sugars,
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Speaker 2: you need to leave them something. So the fact that
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Speaker 2: you said peanut sauce, if there's real peanuts in your peanuts,
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Speaker 2: peanuts still have fiber, so they would have got a
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Speaker 2: little bit tweet. But the reason why you want to
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Speaker 2: have fiber at each medal is because only fifty percent
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Speaker 2: or less than fifty percent of your body is human
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Speaker 2: cells that need to be fed. You actually need to
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Speaker 2: feed feed the trillions of bacteria in your body. And
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Speaker 2: it's not just bacteria, it's bacteria, fungi, viruses, all these
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Speaker 2: things that we live with in our body everywhere that
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Speaker 2: actually keep us alive, so we don't have them we die.
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Speaker 1: Are you saying I've got more bacterial cells than krag
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Speaker 1: cells in my body?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? And in terms of DNA, you have like one
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Speaker 2: hundred times or I can't remember the number, but many,
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Speaker 2: many multiples more DNA bacterial DNA. I think your human
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Speaker 2: DNA would fit in your big toe, and then the
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Speaker 2: rest of your body would be bacterial DNA, so you
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Speaker 2: literally are your bacteria. So what's the role of bacteria.
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Speaker 2: It must have a functional symbiotic relationship, so that bacteria
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Speaker 2: talks to our brain. So the gut brain connection that
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Speaker 2: we all hear about and know about, it is telling
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Speaker 2: our body what to do, how to feel. The bacteria
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Speaker 2: are also processing certain nutrients, so from they make short
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Speaker 2: chained fatty acids. So short chained fatty acids can help
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Speaker 2: us with suppressing appetite, but they also reduce information. So
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Speaker 2: buerrate can help reduce information in the body. It can
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Speaker 2: fix help with the lining of the bowels, it can
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Speaker 2: reduce cancers. Basically, the gut microbiome and all the viruses,
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Speaker 2: all the things that are part of that. Now is
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Speaker 2: the thing we didn't know about. That is the everything now.
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Speaker 2: So it's it's the abyss. If anyone says they know
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Speaker 2: everything about it, we don't know anything really in comparison
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Speaker 2: of what there is to know. So it's like before
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Speaker 2: we knew we had DNA, if that makes sense, you know,
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Speaker 2: like we only so it's the next thing that we're
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Speaker 2: learning about that's more important than we thought. It was.
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Speaker 1: All right, last one and this is out of your wheelhouse,
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Speaker 1: so just take a stab. What about environmental germs and bacteria?
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Speaker 1: And I feel like my instinct tells me that, Like
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Speaker 1: I grew up in the country, riding bikes in dirt
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Speaker 1: and riding through fucking forests and picking up frogs and
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Speaker 1: dog shits and whatever, right just like and washing my
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Speaker 1: hands every third day if I had to, if Mum
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Speaker 1: was watching, and nobody got sick or rarely like I
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Speaker 1: remember growing up like almost never getting a cold or
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Speaker 1: the flu or I don't know, I think that, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we were normal. Of course I washed my hands and
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Speaker 1: showered every day, but there was just not this obsession
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Speaker 1: about absolute cleanliness and you know, washing your hands every
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Speaker 1: seventeen seconds. And do you think we've overdone it on
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Speaker 1: the environmental kind of impact of bacteria on our body?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, because dirt, like even a teaspoon of dirt as
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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands millions of bacteria, maybe even trillions of bacteria.
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Speaker 2: So bacteria is everywhere, and in the past we just
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Speaker 2: washed our hands if we, I don't know, had to
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Speaker 2: get dolpool off a boot or something like that, because
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Speaker 2: we thought that type of bacterial was bad for us,
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Speaker 2: but we didn't know some bacteria was good. So obviously
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Speaker 2: the bacteria that's in our environment, some of that is
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Speaker 2: good for us, and that bacteria also would be challenging
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Speaker 2: our immune system and building up immunity, and that they
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Speaker 2: talk about, you know, the reason why we have so
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Speaker 2: many more allergies to everything now purely because of this
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Speaker 2: hygiene and not being exposed to bacteria as well. So
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Speaker 2: you need to be exposed to some bacteria. But on
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Speaker 2: the flip side of that, there's a lot around bacteria
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Speaker 2: and birth. So if you get born through a vaginal canal,
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Speaker 2: you're coming in contact with lots of bacteria down there,
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Speaker 2: but also feces, and then that little baby is first
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Speaker 2: exposure to bacteria is at least the mother's bacteria, whereas
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Speaker 2: if the baby's born via a sea section, that bacteria
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Speaker 2: that they're being exposed to is hospital bacteria, which is
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Speaker 2: not good bacteria. So they believe it has a long
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Speaker 2: term effect on their overall health status for the rest
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Speaker 2: of their life. And it's not to mean that those
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Speaker 2: kids born via sea section will be less healthy. It
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Speaker 2: just means they have less exposure to the right sorts
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Speaker 2: of bacteria early on, so their immune system needs to
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Speaker 2: catch up. So they do things now like vaginal smears
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Speaker 2: after birth and just making sure the baby is cut
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Speaker 2: in you know, the mum's bacteria, or even the dads.
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Speaker 2: If the mum has to go for surgery, the dad
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Speaker 2: should be ripping off his clothes and exposing that baby
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Speaker 2: to the first bacteria they get, which is at least
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Speaker 2: one of the parents bacteria to start building up the microbiome.
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Speaker 2: Because the microbiome is built by the ages of sort
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Speaker 2: of two to five. You have everything that you need,
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Speaker 2: like your life is built on what happens in those
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Speaker 2: first couple of years alive. So you really want to
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Speaker 2: make sure you've been exposed to the right sorts of bacteria.
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Speaker 2: And they even say that pets share some of the microbome,
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Speaker 2: some of the bacteria with their owners. Wow, yeah, and
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Speaker 2: there's benefits to having a pet with that bacteria.
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Speaker 1: Well, TIFF's never going to get sick again because she's
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Speaker 1: always intertwined with her cat and her dog.
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Speaker 2: There you go.
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Speaker 1: Although there is that thing that cats, what's that thing
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Speaker 1: that cats give their owners that sucks up their brain?
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Speaker 2: Top Oh yeah, yeah, Cat, I do know.
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Speaker 1: Kind of It's like bacteria is like strength training for
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Speaker 1: your immune system. It's like it's like, you know, you
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Speaker 1: go to the gym for the muscles and you go, yeah,
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Speaker 1: smear some bacteria on you. That sounds disgusting, but fuck
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Speaker 1: it for your immune system. All right, So that's good.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for answering that question. Oh.
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Speaker 2: The last part of that would be the fecal transplants.
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Speaker 2: When you start to think about that, you would have
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Speaker 2: heard about that. You get someone else when you either
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Speaker 2: take a crapsule or you use an anima and get
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Speaker 2: it up there.
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Speaker 3: The rapture a craptal Oh fuck, I don't recommend that
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Speaker 3: because you don't know what's in it, but hey, that
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Speaker 3: is a way of getting the bacteria in other than
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Speaker 3: nanama or a camera insertion by surgery.
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Speaker 1: Any show where we use the term crapsual, I'm happy
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Speaker 1: as fuck tell people, just so, just quickly, what is
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Speaker 1: the alleged science behind putting somebody's poo up your betom
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Speaker 1: to join your poo or that to have it that region.
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Speaker 2: So there is really good clinical trials and evidence and
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Speaker 2: procedures happening all around the world as we speak now.
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Speaker 2: One of the treatments for I think it's seed difficult.
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Speaker 2: It's the bacteria that destroys the gut lining that causes
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Speaker 2: ulcerated collidis. If you get someone who's got a healthy
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Speaker 2: gut and you get their pooh and put it into
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Speaker 2: someone with an unhealthy gut, they saw results in some
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Speaker 2: of these studies. I've seen just within sort of twenty
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Speaker 2: four to forty eight hours that a completely ulcerated pussy
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Speaker 2: bleeding bow could start to repair and recover.
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Speaker 1: There's how new are There's Tiff and I'm both nearly
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Speaker 1: heaving into the vakan the bucket. That's there's the title
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Speaker 1: of the pussy heaving ulcerated bow and Hey, everyone, hope
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Speaker 1: you're enjoying your tart. It's not block say that again.
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Speaker 1: So so it basically healed them in a short.
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Speaker 2: In a very short amount of time. And this is
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Speaker 2: in conditions for people that medications don't work. They any
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Speaker 2: other treatment they've tried, They've just got this chronic inflammation.
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Speaker 2: So the inflammation is cured by the healthy bacteria that's
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Speaker 2: located in the feces of someone else. And the first
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Speaker 2: sort of Australian trial on this. It actually made it
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Speaker 2: to TV almost It must have been a decade ago
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Speaker 2: alonger I think was a I think a father donated
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Speaker 2: it to his either son or daughter or something like that,
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Speaker 2: and that was the first kind of you know, public
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Speaker 2: show of how this all worked.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, it does seem. I think. What's interesting is,
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Speaker 1: you know, the idea of some of these things are
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Speaker 1: almost like psychologically repellent. If not, they are right, but
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Speaker 1: it's like, well, if it works, it's like, yeah, would
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Speaker 1: I do it? If I was sick and you go,
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Speaker 1: we're going to do fuck up? I wouldn't even think
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Speaker 1: about it.
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Speaker 2: Hey, have you done your microbome test? Do you know
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Speaker 2: if you have healthy poo?
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Speaker 1: No? No, But what I'll do is I'll come down
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Speaker 1: to your joint and bring a little spatchul before.
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Speaker 2: You're welcome, I'll send it off for you and we
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Speaker 2: can have it tested.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh my god, Oh my god.
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Speaker 2: That was what I want to talk to you about today.
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Speaker 1: Well can we can we go there in one sec?
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Speaker 1: I want to because I'm so excited you're here. Do
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Speaker 1: you know what, Like one of my problems at the
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Speaker 1: moment is I'm when I'm out, I'm always listening to
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Speaker 1: somebody smart talking right, obviously not me, but and I
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Speaker 1: was listening to these two smart dudes. I won't. It
19:53
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who they're talking about. Metabolic psychiatry. Have you
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Speaker 1: ever have you heard that term? Yes, I'm like, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, this and I did ten minutes of research right,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh fuck, I can't. This is gonna
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go down this rabbit hole for a
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Speaker 1: month and forget my PhD that's due next Friday. So
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to shut this fucking door. But this
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Speaker 1: is the problem. There's so much incredible research, and you know,
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Speaker 1: there's also lots of shit research, but there are so
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Speaker 1: many potential therapies and treatments and protocols that are emerging.
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Speaker 1: And you know, but then at the same time, you
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Speaker 1: listen to five experts talk about one topic, you get
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Speaker 1: five variations, if not five, completely different fucking ideas. But yeah,
20:47
Speaker 1: so and so basically what they're doing, correct me if
20:50
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, you might know more than me. But they're
20:52
Speaker 1: treating people with psychiatric disordered, psychological and mental issues with
20:57
Speaker 1: food with food and getting fucking incredible results. Now that's
21:01
Speaker 1: not say get off your medication. It's just to say
21:04
Speaker 1: that some of the research is proving to be you know,
21:08
Speaker 1: where he was talking. This guy was talking about a
21:12
Speaker 1: patient who was on fifteen medications and got off all
21:15
Speaker 1: the medications within four weeks and with zero medication and
21:19
Speaker 1: a good diet, had pretty much no symptoms. Now, of course, everyone,
21:23
Speaker 1: that's not a recommendation. That's just what I heard on
21:27
Speaker 1: a podcast this morning. But that's what made me come
21:30
Speaker 1: home and go, is this bullshit? Or is this because
21:32
Speaker 1: that again you hear things that aren't true. But yeah,
21:36
Speaker 1: so let's take it for a I'm going to once
21:40
Speaker 1: I'm finished all my shit, I'm going to do a
21:42
Speaker 1: little bit of a deep dive into the research just
21:46
Speaker 1: for me.
21:46
Speaker 2: Have you interviewed Professor Flies Jaka?
21:51
Speaker 1: I don't know.
21:52
Speaker 2: I don't the Food and Mood Center from Deacon University.
21:57
Speaker 2: So she founded one of the most well known studies
22:02
Speaker 2: in the world exactly what you're talking about. And it
22:06
Speaker 2: was in twenty fourteen, I think it was published, and
22:09
Speaker 2: it was the first randomized control trial in I don't
22:13
Speaker 2: know if it's the first in the world. It's the
22:15
Speaker 2: most well known and most well spoken about one where
22:19
Speaker 2: people either received counseling or a change of diet and
22:24
Speaker 2: seeing a dietitian. And the people that got the counseling
22:28
Speaker 2: improved their major depression anxiety by seven percent. The people
22:32
Speaker 2: that went on the Mediterranean diet and saw a dietitian
22:35
Speaker 2: improved their major depression anxiety by thirty four or thirty
22:41
Speaker 2: six percent, so five times greater. Yet this has happened
22:46
Speaker 2: over a decade ago, and we're still like, we don't
22:49
Speaker 2: all know about this. We're not using that as first
22:52
Speaker 2: line therapy.
22:54
Speaker 1: Diet simple yeah, I mean, and again everyone, we're not
22:57
Speaker 1: advocating anything, we're just talking. But there would seemed to be, uh,
23:02
Speaker 1: you know, financial incentives for some organizations not to have
23:06
Speaker 1: this information out there. All right, So now, Kate, you
23:09
Speaker 1: reached out as because you wanted to chat today, and
23:14
Speaker 1: thank you for reaching out. Your you've been elevated to
23:18
Speaker 1: elevated to unpaid unpaid resident nutritional gurus.
23:24
Speaker 2: You had some testing done or have you got some results?
23:28
Speaker 1: And you I think you wanted to chat about why
23:31
Speaker 1: we are so reactive rather than proactive at times when
23:35
Speaker 1: it comes to our health.
23:37
Speaker 2: You have just done the perfect introduction though you've literally
23:41
Speaker 2: joined all of the pieces from fiber to the gut,
23:44
Speaker 2: microbiome to mental health and why are we going for
23:48
Speaker 2: drugs before food? This is the whole conversation. People are
23:52
Speaker 2: talking about their news resolutions and all the things they're
23:56
Speaker 2: going to do, and I just think the first thing
24:01
Speaker 2: that's important for people to sort of understand is where
24:05
Speaker 2: the health is at now, because then they can take
24:08
Speaker 2: the right actions and the ones that will mean the
24:10
Speaker 2: most to make sure that whatever they're doing is actually
24:15
Speaker 2: preventative or maintaining. You know, people avoid things that are hard,
24:23
Speaker 2: and things that are hard are probably the things they
24:24
Speaker 2: should be doing the most right. So there's no point
24:27
Speaker 2: if you're amazing at strength training and you're really really strong,
24:31
Speaker 2: I'm going to lift more and more weights, Well that's
24:33
Speaker 2: not going to help you. You probably bloody need and
24:35
Speaker 2: run on do some cardio, or do some hit training,
24:37
Speaker 2: or do a four by four Norwegian cycle thing or
24:40
Speaker 2: whatever you do. So I think it would be good
24:44
Speaker 2: for people to think about what is the hardest thing,
24:47
Speaker 2: not what the thing they want to do is, because
24:49
Speaker 2: that's probably what they need the most. And do they
24:52
Speaker 2: have any testing or foundations around their health to show
24:55
Speaker 2: them where are you going to get the most benefit.
24:58
Speaker 2: And this all came to me because I went, I
25:03
Speaker 2: order all of my own medical tests. I've got lots
25:05
Speaker 2: of medical people in my community. Some are very pro
25:10
Speaker 2: having preventative tests done, for example, MRIs. For no fricking reason,
25:16
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know. One day, I thought, oh,
25:19
Speaker 2: my knees catching. I don't have sore knees. I run
25:22
Speaker 2: a lot of the time, and I thought, I want
25:24
Speaker 2: to have an MRI on my knees. Like why not, Well,
25:27
Speaker 2: you don't need it. It doesn't matter if I need
25:29
Speaker 2: it or not. I want to know. So I went
25:30
Speaker 2: and had that done. Guess what stage four cartilage damage
25:34
Speaker 2: and Baker's cysts and pteleomel tracking. And the clinician that
25:40
Speaker 2: read my report went, if I just read the report
25:42
Speaker 2: without seeing you sitting in front of me, I would
25:45
Speaker 2: think you couldn't get out of a chair right now.
25:48
Speaker 1: Wow.
25:49
Speaker 2: Oh, and the start of osteoarthritis. And I was like,
25:52
Speaker 2: I knew it. I got my rheumatoid factor tested a
25:57
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and it's supposed to be un
26:00
Speaker 2: to ten or something like that, and it was like seventeen.
26:02
Speaker 2: They're like that's normal. I'm like, no, why is that
26:05
Speaker 2: above this range? And then I got it tested again
26:08
Speaker 2: and it was forty something, tested again fifty something. I'm like,
26:12
Speaker 2: something is going on in my body, and I want
26:14
Speaker 2: to know what it is because if there's something I
26:16
Speaker 2: can do about it, I want to stop it. And
26:20
Speaker 2: this for some people would cause fear or anxiety or
26:24
Speaker 2: whatever else and they don't want to know and they
26:25
Speaker 2: don't want to have testing. I get that, but my
26:29
Speaker 2: mom died of no known cause, and I don't want
26:33
Speaker 2: to leave my kids behind without knowing there was something
26:36
Speaker 2: maybe I could have done, like autopsies, coronics reports no
26:41
Speaker 2: known cause after three months of testing. If there's something
26:45
Speaker 2: that's going to happen, I'd rather know and go. You
26:49
Speaker 2: know what, guys, we're not going to work tomorrow. Are
26:51
Speaker 2: we going to live it up and have our best life? Well,
26:53
Speaker 2: live it up every day, but why not know where
26:57
Speaker 2: your health is at? And I'm annoyed that I'm stage
27:00
Speaker 2: four cartilage damage with no pain, no effects or anything
27:04
Speaker 2: like that. If there's something I could have done differently
27:07
Speaker 2: to prevent that, And that's just the start of all
27:11
Speaker 2: these things. I mean, gut microbome testing. So as I
27:14
Speaker 2: was saying, if anyone's out there wanting to know is
27:18
Speaker 2: do they have healthy poo and what can you do
27:20
Speaker 2: about it? I had my first test done in twenty
27:22
Speaker 2: two and I had really poor gut microbiome health. I
27:26
Speaker 2: was under fifty percent, you know, one hundred percent obviously
27:30
Speaker 2: the best, and I thought, as a dietitian, how do
27:32
Speaker 2: I have poor gut health. I then changed what I
27:35
Speaker 2: was doing and I got to ninety five percent, so
27:39
Speaker 2: really really good by knowing what was going on and
27:43
Speaker 2: being able to do something about it.
27:46
Speaker 4: Okay, hang on, so what were you having and doing
27:51
Speaker 4: at when you were fifty percent and what did you
27:54
Speaker 4: change and how did you get to ninety five percent.
27:58
Speaker 2: I don't think I was actually having enough fiber. I'm
28:01
Speaker 2: aware of fiber, and I eat fiber, and I ate
28:03
Speaker 2: fruit and veggies, but I wasn't having it at every meal,
28:06
Speaker 2: and I probably wasn't having a lot of it during
28:08
Speaker 2: the day. So fiber was my number one thing, and
28:11
Speaker 2: I am a bit of a low carbeat it too,
28:13
Speaker 2: So I just made sure even if I had a
28:16
Speaker 2: protein like a yogurt or a custard or anything like that,
28:19
Speaker 2: I just loaded it up with some alisa or flax
28:23
Speaker 2: seed meal or some chea seeds, put some fruit in it,
28:27
Speaker 2: like added more carbs, but fiber rich carbs to my
28:31
Speaker 2: diet every single day. And you know in a salad
28:34
Speaker 2: like put a bit of sour kraut fore your gut
28:36
Speaker 2: microbiome and fermented foods, put olives in anything that's going
28:41
Speaker 2: to add good bacteria, or you know, functional foods that
28:45
Speaker 2: have got probiotics in them, or even a probiotics which
28:49
Speaker 2: are the fibrous things that feed that bacteria. So literally,
28:52
Speaker 2: in a year, I went from being below fifty percent
28:55
Speaker 2: to ninety five percent. Had it checked a year later,
28:57
Speaker 2: it's still ninety five percent. But if I didn't, no,
29:00
Speaker 2: I would have thought I was doing doing pretty good.
29:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so interesting. So here's my working theory on
29:08
Speaker 1: why people don't get testing done in no particular order.
29:14
Speaker 1: One it can be expensive. I don't think that's the
29:17
Speaker 1: main reason. Two ignorance, I don't think that's the main reason,
29:21
Speaker 1: but I think they're both factors. Three fear. I think
29:26
Speaker 1: people generally, when it comes to their health, they are
29:29
Speaker 1: more emotion emotionally driven than critically thinking about where they are,
29:36
Speaker 1: what's going on, what's working, what's not working. What's my
29:39
Speaker 1: body telling me, what's the bio feedback telling me? You know,
29:44
Speaker 1: I think we should all myself included, I should probably
29:47
Speaker 1: do more. But yeah, I think the fact that we
29:50
Speaker 1: are scared of what the test is going to say.
29:54
Speaker 1: On a really funny, much lower level of this, I
29:59
Speaker 1: reckon twenty percent of my clients, for thirty percent of
30:04
Speaker 1: my clients over the years when my job was personal
30:07
Speaker 1: training and we would do I would do body composition
30:10
Speaker 1: testing on people, and we would weigh them, and of
30:12
Speaker 1: course we realize the limitations of taking someone's weight, and
30:15
Speaker 1: we get all of that, but at the same time
30:18
Speaker 1: it's a factor. But at least twenty maybe thirty percent
30:22
Speaker 1: of my clients would not want to know what they weighed,
30:26
Speaker 1: and they would get severe anxiety about having to stand
30:29
Speaker 1: on scales. And I would say, there are a lot
30:33
Speaker 1: of variables and a lot of determinants and factors. This
30:35
Speaker 1: is one. It's not a big deal. I'm just doing
30:38
Speaker 1: it because I just want to track some data and
30:40
Speaker 1: see what's going on. Same with your body compositions, same
30:44
Speaker 1: with your blood pressure, same with your upper and lower
30:46
Speaker 1: body strength, Same with your votwo max or submax. You know,
30:50
Speaker 1: it's all just testing that we're doing right. But so
30:53
Speaker 1: many people would be so scared of finding out the
30:57
Speaker 1: truth they would rather like live in La la land.
31:01
Speaker 1: Then go oh shit, Well I'm pre diabetic, so I'm
31:06
Speaker 1: going to make some decisions, do some things, and implement
31:09
Speaker 1: some changes which will take me out of that hopefully.
31:13
Speaker 1: But I just think for a lot of people it's
31:15
Speaker 1: just fear and anxiety. And I think in general, when
31:18
Speaker 1: it comes to managing our body and even managing our food,
31:23
Speaker 1: we're more emotional than we are logical.
31:27
Speaker 2: You're so right. And the heart thing I guess though,
31:31
Speaker 2: is someone who has pre diabetes has the start of
31:33
Speaker 2: heart disease, whether they want to acknowledge that or not.
31:37
Speaker 2: So that means right now you are choosing how long
31:41
Speaker 2: you want to live, because if your heart gives up,
31:43
Speaker 2: it's all over. So that decision of changing the diet
31:47
Speaker 2: or exercising or not doing it. Once you have pre diabetes,
31:51
Speaker 2: you're actually making decisions about heart disease, and you're making
31:54
Speaker 2: decisions about dementia and Alzheimer's. Do you want to forget
31:57
Speaker 2: your own children's name because already linked diabetes or they
32:02
Speaker 2: call type three diabetes? Elseimon demension. So I think if
32:07
Speaker 2: you don't know, then you can put your head in
32:10
Speaker 2: the sand. But you need to take responsibility for your
32:14
Speaker 2: own health because it's nobody else's problem. It's actually your problem.
32:18
Speaker 2: And I find it quite selfish when people don't want
32:22
Speaker 2: to know, and they're a part of a family and
32:24
Speaker 2: we all have responsibility in a family, but they're not
32:28
Speaker 2: taking responsibility for their own health. Nobody else can change
32:32
Speaker 2: their decisions or clean up their health, and they're the
32:34
Speaker 2: one who's going to be the burden, you know what
32:37
Speaker 2: I mean. Like if you say to your partner, are
32:41
Speaker 2: you happy to push me around in a wheelchair because
32:43
Speaker 2: I'm going to lose my legs because I'm going to
32:46
Speaker 2: ignore my diabetes, you know what I mean? Or you're
32:51
Speaker 2: going to nurse me because of my heart condition because
32:55
Speaker 2: I'm not going to have a test on my heart
32:57
Speaker 2: because I think I don't have good heart health. I
33:00
Speaker 2: think you know, we're pass that time where it should
33:03
Speaker 2: be a surprise. The testing is available, the treatments are available,
33:08
Speaker 2: we know what we need to be doing. You should
33:10
Speaker 2: know where you're at because then you know how severe
33:14
Speaker 2: that decision is. The way to that decision, should you
33:17
Speaker 2: be so stressed at work, eat crap, work long hours.
33:21
Speaker 2: If you're on the verge of a heart attack, if
33:23
Speaker 2: you knew on the verge of a heart attack, would
33:26
Speaker 2: you choose to have the heart attack or would you
33:28
Speaker 2: choose to maybe go for a walk at lunch and
33:30
Speaker 2: pick up a salad instead of eating the pie downstairs.
33:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, everything you're saying I agree with, and
33:38
Speaker 1: it's true. But the other swing of the pendulum is,
33:43
Speaker 1: like I said, people are very emotional and defensive, and
33:48
Speaker 1: that it's hard to talk to people who don't want
33:50
Speaker 1: to be spoken to about it. And so you know,
33:55
Speaker 1: it's like I've had hard conversations with friends that I
33:59
Speaker 1: love that have literally been reducing their lifespan at an
34:07
Speaker 1: accelerated rate through their behavior, through their choices and behavior
34:11
Speaker 1: and lifestyle. And what I generally do is I go,
34:15
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this once and a few of
34:18
Speaker 1: them I've said too, I want to have a talk
34:21
Speaker 1: with you just because I love you. You might not
34:22
Speaker 1: want to talk to me after this, that's okay. But
34:25
Speaker 1: here's what I want to tell you. I'm not picking
34:28
Speaker 1: on you. It's not my intention anyway. I'm not picking
34:30
Speaker 1: on you. I'm not criticizing you. I want you to
34:33
Speaker 1: live a long and healthy and functional and happy life,
34:38
Speaker 1: and I have knowledge and understanding and experience that can help.
34:44
Speaker 1: So that's where I'm coming from. And then I tell
34:46
Speaker 1: them and sometimes it's well received and sometimes not, and
34:51
Speaker 1: sometimes they operationalize it and sometimes not. But it is
34:56
Speaker 1: difficult because like most people, I don't think like Kate Save.
35:01
Speaker 1: They don't and that's okay. And most people don't think
35:05
Speaker 1: like Tif Cook or Craig Harper, and we're not better
35:07
Speaker 1: than anyone else, but you know, the only person who
35:09
Speaker 1: thinks like me completely is me, And so we look
35:13
Speaker 1: through like I look through my lens at someone else's
35:16
Speaker 1: behavior and I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
35:18
Speaker 1: But to them it's totally normal. So this is the challenge.
35:23
Speaker 1: Is like, even with conversations and messaging like this, we
35:28
Speaker 1: might be clinically and medically and scientifically right in inverted commas,
35:33
Speaker 1: but I guarantee you someone's listening to this right now
35:36
Speaker 1: getting pissed off at you. Right I guarantee you that
35:41
Speaker 1: someone right now hearing this is a bit fucked off
35:44
Speaker 1: because you don't fucking understand Kate Save. And it's all
35:48
Speaker 1: right for you, you're fucking skinny, blonde, blah blah blah. Right,
35:51
Speaker 1: that's that's true. That's true. And I understand them, and
35:56
Speaker 1: I understand that. And this is why all of this
36:00
Speaker 1: stuff is so fucking complicated. And on a level it's
36:07
Speaker 1: simple theoretically, it's simple. Practically, in the real world, away
36:13
Speaker 1: from the theory, it's anything but simple, so fucking complicated, absolutely.
36:18
Speaker 2: And I David, who's got Advara Hartcare. He's a cardiologist
36:24
Speaker 2: friend of mine, huge cardiology practice, And the way he
36:30
Speaker 2: presented it to me was he decided that he was
36:34
Speaker 2: sick of only meeting people after the event. And they,
36:39
Speaker 2: every single one of them, none of them said I
36:42
Speaker 2: wish this happened to me. They all said I wish
36:44
Speaker 2: there was something I could have done. I wish I
36:46
Speaker 2: knew right, And he's like, his whole practice is built
36:50
Speaker 2: on preventative health. Now he goes, I want to be
36:53
Speaker 2: meeting you before you've fallen off the cliff. I don't
36:57
Speaker 2: want to be cleaning up your messy body at the bob,
37:00
Speaker 2: so come and see me before that. And I think
37:03
Speaker 2: this is where this episode felt so important. At the
37:06
Speaker 2: start of the year, people are probably less angry at
37:10
Speaker 2: me right now. If I'm telling them to go and
37:12
Speaker 2: have a freakin' of free heart check, get David on
37:15
Speaker 2: your show. He will offer everyone a free heart check.
37:18
Speaker 2: I guarantee it. And that is the most important thing
37:24
Speaker 2: that anybody that you care about should do, because the
37:28
Speaker 2: last thing you want to be doing, and you've had
37:30
Speaker 2: to resuscitate a friend, is you know, lose someone that
37:34
Speaker 2: you love for something that is completely preventable. And this
37:37
Speaker 2: came to my mind well when I booked to do
37:41
Speaker 2: this podcast with you, because a colleague at worked with
37:44
Speaker 2: me said her and her husband just went to the
37:46
Speaker 2: GPGP was doing the wife's pressure and the husband said,
37:50
Speaker 2: do mine too, got he's checked. It was so high
37:53
Speaker 2: and then the doctor booked him in an ambulance. They
37:55
Speaker 2: took him to hospital. He had no symptoms. Had a
37:58
Speaker 2: triple cardiac bypath five weeks ago. Baho symptoms. We shouldn't
38:04
Speaker 2: be here in forties forties.
38:08
Speaker 1: Wow, you know.
38:09
Speaker 2: And the interesting thing is sometimes the first symptom is death. Yeah,
38:14
Speaker 2: and males in their forties is the most common time
38:17
Speaker 2: for that. Under fifty for that early death. I'm not
38:20
Speaker 2: the expert here, but very happy to put you on
38:23
Speaker 2: to David. I know, you know lots of cardiologists, but
38:26
Speaker 2: I think he's specifically about prevention. Is sick of seeing
38:30
Speaker 2: them when it's too late, because there were a million
38:32
Speaker 2: things you could do.
38:35
Speaker 1: All right, So let's let's now kind of move towards
38:40
Speaker 1: a potential solution of sorts. So if somebody's like, okay,
38:47
Speaker 1: this makes sense, I'm a little bit scared. I'm a
38:50
Speaker 1: bit nervous. Firstly, we got you, we get it, we
38:54
Speaker 1: get it. It took me quite a while to do
38:57
Speaker 1: the protest and send it off. It was a bit
38:59
Speaker 1: fuck nervous, right, quite a while to do the prostate
39:04
Speaker 1: fuck all that. I'm like, oh, for sure, I've gone
39:08
Speaker 1: this and I've got that. I was sick about four
39:11
Speaker 1: or five months ago, tiff nos because I for about
39:13
Speaker 1: six months I was I had fucking zero energy, and
39:17
Speaker 1: I was just pretending I had energy, and I had
39:20
Speaker 1: all of these myriad of symptoms, and yeah, I'm a
39:25
Speaker 1: big baby, so I put off. I'm like, oh, fucking
39:27
Speaker 1: jog it out. It's just this. It wasn't and I
39:29
Speaker 1: knew it wasn't. But anyway, it turns out I had
39:32
Speaker 1: a an infection that had just been fucking me up
39:35
Speaker 1: for a long time, but even even me in inverted
39:40
Speaker 1: commas like you know. But okay, so somebody's thinking about
39:45
Speaker 1: all right, I want to start to turn this ship
39:48
Speaker 1: around in the right direction. I don't want to reinvent
39:51
Speaker 1: myself by tomorrow. I don't want to make a hundred
39:55
Speaker 1: changes that I will not sustain. What's a good stepping off?
40:00
Speaker 1: And of course, remember everyone, there's no you know, there's
40:03
Speaker 1: no universal plan that works the same for everybody.
40:06
Speaker 2: But where should we think about starting k Go and
40:10
Speaker 2: speak to your GP. Say this year is the year
40:15
Speaker 2: that I want to learn about my health and I
40:18
Speaker 2: want to improve my health. Give me a full test
40:21
Speaker 2: for everything. I want everything. I want all my bloods done.
40:26
Speaker 2: I want to you know, give it. Refer me to
40:28
Speaker 2: someone to do a heart care check for me, Refer
40:31
Speaker 2: me for diabetes check. What else can I have done?
40:35
Speaker 2: And if there's anything that you felt change in your body,
40:39
Speaker 2: If things change in your body, there is something wrong
40:42
Speaker 2: that is a symptom. You need to speak about these
40:46
Speaker 2: changes in your body because people will always say, oh, yeah,
40:49
Speaker 2: about six months ago, I did notice this lump or
40:53
Speaker 2: this and that, but they never did anything about it.
40:56
Speaker 2: And I did that with the melanoma. I noticed a
40:59
Speaker 2: freckle that I took a photo of and in an app.
41:02
Speaker 2: And this is like many years ago, and the app
41:05
Speaker 2: said high risk. I did nothing about it, and it
41:08
Speaker 2: gave me a weekly alert for fifty two weeks, and
41:11
Speaker 2: still like I stopped paying for the app. And then
41:13
Speaker 2: I went to the skin cancer place and I went,
41:16
Speaker 2: this stupid app thinks I've got a high risk thing.
41:19
Speaker 2: Can someone look at it? They looked at it and
41:20
Speaker 2: said we're going to biopsy it. I had two kids
41:23
Speaker 2: with me that were supposed to be going to swimming lessons.
41:25
Speaker 2: I said, I'm going to have to come back at
41:26
Speaker 2: six o'clock and they biopsied it. A week later, I
41:29
Speaker 2: found out it was a melanoma, but it was only
41:31
Speaker 2: stage one, thank Kevin's. So I just think, if something
41:36
Speaker 2: changes in your body, no matter what it is my
41:40
Speaker 2: miggling knee stage four cart vilage damage, I had a
41:44
Speaker 2: change in my mental health. I felt less resilient and
41:48
Speaker 2: it's happened to me twice. And what I mean by
41:51
Speaker 2: that is I felt like in the past, if someone
41:54
Speaker 2: fought me over something or told me I wasn't good
41:57
Speaker 2: enough for this or that, I would do it anyway,
42:00
Speaker 2: and I was losing the will to fight back. And
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Speaker 2: when had a blood test, I've twice had clinical zinc deficiency,
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Speaker 2: which severely deteriorates your brain functioning and your mental health.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, wow, And that's the thing about and a zinc.
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Speaker 2: I popped a pill and I was better. No one
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Speaker 2: can hurt me.
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Speaker 1: Fuck, that's amazing. I wonder what my zinc is. That's interesting.
42:26
Speaker 2: Zinc is a really interesting one for men because you
42:28
Speaker 2: need it for testosterone and if you testosterone levels, let's
42:31
Speaker 2: talk about hormones. Females get their hormones checked. Males should
42:34
Speaker 2: be getting their hormones checked too. And if you don't
42:36
Speaker 2: have enough zinc, then you won't make good testosterone. If
42:39
Speaker 2: you don't have good testosterone, you won't build muscle well,
42:42
Speaker 2: and your moods won't be stable and all those sorts
42:45
Speaker 2: of things. So men need to have hormone tests too.
42:49
Speaker 1: Now this is not for anyone except me, So don't
42:51
Speaker 1: pay any attention to what Kate says to me. Now, everyone, Okay,
42:55
Speaker 1: fingers in your ears, don't listen. How much zinc should
42:58
Speaker 1: I take each day?
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Speaker 2: Kate? You should test before you take zinc so don't
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Speaker 2: start supplements without finding out what your levels are first.
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Speaker 1: What's a typical dose? Let me ask a better question,
43:14
Speaker 1: like if you.
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Speaker 2: Were taking a multi vitamin, it will have zinc in it.
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Speaker 2: In small amounts. It might give you fifty percent of
43:21
Speaker 2: your recommended dietary intake or twenty five percent of your
43:24
Speaker 2: recommended dietary intake. It's pretty low, but if you have
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Speaker 2: clinical zinc deficiency, you need really high levels to top
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Speaker 2: you up. But you do not want to take higher
43:35
Speaker 2: levels if you're not low, because it will stop the
43:37
Speaker 2: absorption of other nutrients. Minerals all clash with each other
43:41
Speaker 2: in the body, So if you start supplementing something without
43:44
Speaker 2: counteracting it, you'll end up with another deficiency that use
43:48
Speaker 2: cause by taking the wrong thing. So get check first.
43:51
Speaker 2: Find out where you're at. Food wire, zinc is really
43:54
Speaker 2: high in oysters, That's why they say they're good for
43:57
Speaker 2: libido and whatever else. It's hie in nuts and seeds,
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Speaker 2: certain nuts and seeds. It's in meat, it's in eggs,
44:07
Speaker 2: it's in most animal based products. It is nuts and
44:10
Speaker 2: seeds which are plant based as well. But how well
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Speaker 2: do you absorb it? So you need good levels of
44:16
Speaker 2: hydrochloric acid it gets you know, it depends on how
44:19
Speaker 2: your gut functions and what your acid levels are like
44:22
Speaker 2: in your gut, and genetically genetically, because I've had all
44:26
Speaker 2: my genetic tests done as well. I don't absorb bever
44:29
Speaker 2: vitamin as well. I don't methylate vitamins, So if I
44:33
Speaker 2: take FOLL eight or bet well, it needs to be
44:35
Speaker 2: methylated folate or bet well otherwise it's poisoned. So thirty
44:39
Speaker 2: percent of people have the mt hfr gene, which means
44:45
Speaker 2: they can't process synthetic folate, which means it's poisonous to them.
44:49
Speaker 2: And it's in all of our fortified breads and cereals
44:52
Speaker 2: as well, So you'd want to know if you've got
44:54
Speaker 2: that gene because you shouldn't be taking that type of vitamin.
44:58
Speaker 2: Your regular multi vitamin won't be methylated and it won't
45:02
Speaker 2: work for you. It actually build up in your system.
45:04
Speaker 2: So happy blood tests done before you start supplementing and
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Speaker 2: have them interpreted by someone who knows what they're talking about.
45:13
Speaker 1: Wow, well they we're all fucking terrified because of us.
45:18
Speaker 2: Can't I can plate foll eate and B twelve And
45:23
Speaker 2: this is particularly an issue for people that are supplementing
45:26
Speaker 2: fall late because they're trying to get pregnant. Find out
45:29
Speaker 2: if you need methylated full late.
45:32
Speaker 1: Wow.
45:33
Speaker 2: Once you start googling this, it's everywhere. Anyone who's ever
45:36
Speaker 2: looked it up will know it inside out because once
45:39
Speaker 2: you see it, you can't unsee it.
45:42
Speaker 1: Well, Tiff might be having the first typ baby in
45:44
Speaker 1: the next year or so, So Tiff, you take that
45:46
Speaker 1: on board. Did you know Tif's got a boy on
45:50
Speaker 1: the go? No, like it like an actual grown up.
45:53
Speaker 2: No, hopefully he's got plenty of zinc.
45:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, lets plenty of lettin the metaphoric pencil. All right,
46:02
Speaker 1: stop it, stop every show. I just get her just
46:05
Speaker 1: with a zinger, just a thirty second zinger.
46:09
Speaker 2: Kate, tell people how they can.
46:12
Speaker 1: Ah, tell people how they can connect with you and
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Speaker 1: find you and follow you.
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Speaker 2: They can find me on Instagram, Kate say, if they
46:22
Speaker 2: can find me on LinkedIn and then beef it through
46:24
Speaker 2: Australia as well.
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Speaker 1: Perfect, Thanks Tiff. Any questions or additions or subtractions.
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Speaker 2: No questions here, No questions you, thank you, sir.
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Speaker 1: To see nothing to see over here except she would
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Speaker 1: like to delete the last comment and she's editing it.
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Speaker 1: So you may well not hear it. If you hear this,
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Speaker 1: just know that I said something fucking hilarious about sixty
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Speaker 1: seconds ago. Thanks everyone, Bye,