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- 0:00Welcome to Buck guys tomorrow morning. From Monday, March fourth, I'm your
- 0:02host, Tom Moore. The Akron game is in one hundred and eighty days,
- 0:06the game against Michigan in two hundred and seventy one days, the start
- 0:09of spring practice in one day. The first interviews of spring practice actually happening
- 0:14today will be over at the Woody Has Athletics Center, talking to some of
- 0:18the Buckeyes previewing spring football and much more. It's going to be a very
- 0:21busy, very entertaining week this week, so make sure you were at bucke
- 0:25Huddle dot com for all of that YouTube dot com slash Buckeye Huddle. So
- 0:29all right, spring football it's a very interesting, very exciting time of year.
- 0:34You can learn a lot, but you can also gets misled at times
- 0:38as well by what you're seeing. So I'm bringing in Tony Gerdham to bucke
- 0:43Huddle dot com. He and I have covered a whole bunch of spring football
- 0:46seasons over the years, so we're going to share a little bit about what
- 0:50you really but you can learn what you maybe don't want to read too much
- 0:53into how many times you have to see something before it's like, Okay,
- 0:57this is actually real all that kind of stuff. I guess let's start with
- 1:03day one on Tuesday, we walk into the Witty Hayes Athletic Center, whether
- 1:07they're inside or outside, and what are we looking for on day one?
- 1:12Day one? I am looking for, first off, any position moves.
- 1:18And the difficult part about that is you also have jersey changes, so sometimes
- 1:23there's some all right, who is number six now? Who is number three?
- 1:27Now? Wires there number I don't remember thirty four over here, So
- 1:32you're trying to just get a lay of the land, and then they'll get
- 1:37into some stretching and you're trying to see who is stretching first or who is
- 1:42like in the lead of the because generally the leaders of the team will be
- 1:48in front jogging and things like that. So you kind of get just an
- 1:52assessment of that, like, okay, oh, I did not expect Kenyana
- 1:56Jackson to be among the first group leading a line of people. That's interesting.
- 2:00Then he gets into position groups and the drills and you're like, okay,
- 2:02who's repping first in those drills? Is really where you get your first
- 2:07opportunity to get some sort of a depth chart and it's it's not the best
- 2:12way to do it, but it's what we have at the outset. And
- 2:15until we start seeing them in eleven on eleven and seven on seven, or
- 2:20you know, offensive line against defensive line, until you really start seeing that,
- 2:23it's kind of like, okay, so the receivers repped in this order,
- 2:27the running backs repped in this order, the quarterback's repped in this order,
- 2:30and then tom it's well, the first drill it was Devin Brown repping
- 2:37first, the second drill it was Will Howard repping first, and then the
- 2:42third drill it's Lincoln Kenole's repping first. So you gotta then also assess how
- 2:46often did somebody rep first, because what we saw did we see CJ.
- 2:52Stroud and Jack Millier kind of go back and forth for a while in terms
- 2:54of who is repping first. Justin fields, I don't really remember Matthew Baldwin
- 3:00or anybody repping first ahead of him, but we know Kyle Riccord and Devin
- 3:06Brown have done this back and forth, and so he just tried to get
- 3:10some idea of where the piece is lined up by who's going first, because
- 3:16somebody had to tell them what order to be in and it's not just a
- 3:21willy nilly order for the most part. And I think one of the big
- 3:27things about day one is there are no firm conclusions to draw on day one
- 3:34because guy is with a new position group. Great, how many times have
- 3:38we seen Hey, this guy whatever, this center or this this former tackle
- 3:43is repping its center on day one of spring practice, Like, whoa,
- 3:46this is crazy, this is wild, But do you think it means And
- 3:49then day two he's back at tackling You never see him at center game or
- 3:53you know, the corner has moved to safety or the safety has moved to
- 3:55corner, and like, oh wow, what do we think this means about
- 3:59the depth chart in The answer is nothing, because he's gonna be back in
- 4:00the old spot on Thursday. They just throw a bunch of stuff at the
- 4:03wall and sort of see what sticks. But I think the most important thing
- 4:09about day one is that's a that's not a data set. That is a
- 4:13data point. You have one piece of information. The most important thing that
- 4:16Day one does is gives you something to compare it to on Thursday in two
- 4:24weeks, in three weeks, to know, hey, here's how things have
- 4:28changed, here's where someone has maybe moved from a different spot, and you
- 4:30can sort of start to learn something from that. Yeah, that's why I
- 4:34think we all write down the order people are repping in so that you can
- 4:39go back and compare it two days, two weeks. Oh, so this
- 4:42guy has moved up four spots, and then we'll see more than the seven
- 4:46on seven and eleven on eleven's and see, well, this guy has moved
- 4:48up from third team to he's getting some reps in the first team. One
- 4:54of the difficult parts about the first day or the first couple of days is
- 4:59there's a lot going on and you're trying to take it all in, and
- 5:00you will you may miss something that somebody else sees, and somebody else will
- 5:05report like, say, you know, saw Josh Fryar at left tackle,
- 5:09and I'll be like, why I missed that one, And so then the
- 5:12question is, like, what I about Josh Fryar left tackle? Or you
- 5:15know, you report something that you see that somebody else didn't, and there's
- 5:18just like you said, it's a temporary thing. They're just looking at stuff
- 5:23trying to figure out what goes best. So you can't read too much into
- 5:27it, but you jot it down in case that becomes clearer down the road,
- 5:32Like okay, now, remember we saw earlier Josh Fryer over here repping
- 5:38doing this, so if something else happens over here, they can do this
- 5:41because they're comfortable doing it, they've done it before. It's a lot of
- 5:45information. It doesn't always lead to anything solid, but that's why they're trying
- 5:50to find what is the most solid things we have on this football team.
- 5:54We got to figure out what everybody else can do, and then we're all
- 5:59privy to some of this. And it's kind of like when a stand up
- 6:03comic is putting out some new material. They're going on the road doing new
- 6:08material. They're like confiscating cell phones because they don't want the bad material out
- 6:13there for the public. They don't want to see it on YouTube. A
- 6:15lot of this is just trying new material, new jokes, and it takes
- 6:17some time to work it all out, and sometimes it's not that funny on
- 6:23day water day two time. Yeah, and it'll look pretty rough and ragged
- 6:28at times on day one and day two. I mean, you have heard
- 6:30Ryan Day talk about guys who are just still trying to figure out, like
- 6:33where the meeting rooms are and how to practice, and these practices are.
- 6:36You know, one of the reasons that someone might see something and other people
- 6:41might not is there's a lot to watch. This is not just they're lining
- 6:44up and running football plays and we're all watching the same thing. Cornerback,
- 6:47the quarterbacks are in one part of the field. Running backs are in a
- 6:50different part of the field. The wide receivers are maybe doing something else.
- 6:54The offensive line is in a different corner. The safeties are in one spot,
- 6:57the corners. Sometimes the corners and the safeties are working together, other
- 7:00times not. The linebackers are somewhere, the defensive line is in another spot,
- 7:03and if I'm watching the defensive line, the offensive line is way on
- 7:06the other side of the field, so I've got no idea what's going on
- 7:09there. And even when we've got three people there to watch practice, there's
- 7:12always something you're not watching that someone is not watching at some time. So
- 7:15you can have different people seeing different things at different times. So you know,
- 7:19just because one person says something and someone else doesn't doesn't necessarily mean that
- 7:24one of them is wrong. It just maybe someone is looking at something else.
- 7:28So that's a lot of the stuff you can't learn from There are some
- 7:30things you can learn from day one, because there is always it seems like
- 7:33Tony a freshman who is like the holy crap freshman of the year. And
- 7:39I mean you mentioned Justin Fields earlier. He was obviously not a true freshman,
- 7:42but he was new to Ohio State, and I just remember the first
- 7:45practice we got to watch him. Every quarterback who was throwing whatever, thirty
- 7:48yard outs or whatever it was, the ball was arcing above a certain line
- 7:53on the wall and Justin Field's ball was staying underneath there, and you could
- 7:57just you could see the arm strength from all the way across the field and
- 8:00it was like, wow. I go back to Garrett Wilson and watching Garrett
- 8:03Wilson coming out of breaks during a little just a little you know, five
- 8:07yard hitch kind of thing, and just he turns, he catches, and
- 8:11boom he accelerates. It was like, holy crap, this guy is really
- 8:15explosive. I mean, Jackson's been a jig, but I know we've talked
- 8:18about, but you can sometimes also have that first impression that's like, oh,
- 8:22okay, I get it. Like I've seen the recruiting rankings, now
- 8:26I get it. Yeah, and there are positions that lend themselves to that
- 8:31more than others. Like it's hard to see that at running back and linebacker
- 8:35because they're not necessarily doing a lot of between the tackles stuff, and so
- 8:39a lot of it's passing game, short passing game. It's situational, So
- 8:43like, I don't always expect to be blown away by a linebacker or a
- 8:48running back because it's not even thud at that point. There's just very almost
- 8:52no contact. So it's hard to judge a running back when there's no tackling.
- 8:56But there are still guys, you know, quarters can stand out,
- 9:01safety is covering a ton of ground can stand out. And then you'll get
- 9:03to see some one on ones with the defensive line and the offensive line where
- 9:07you can just tell guys, you look at guys like that dude is quick.
- 9:11I remember watching Isaiah Prince and it's like that dude is very mobile for
- 9:16an offensive lineman. And we've seen defensive linemen in the same thing where it's
- 9:20like that guy is unnatural basically how quick he is, how fast he is.
- 9:28And then you see some guys like Kate McDonald, not specifically, but
- 9:31like that that are big and they've got a quick first like Robert Landers,
- 9:37like how is this guy moving that quickly? You get to see that early
- 9:41on. It's bringing again. That's just some things that just stick with you.
- 9:46But then there are the things that just never never leave you. And
- 9:48you've mentioned a few of them, justin Fields Jackson Smith and Jig but Garrett
- 9:52Wilson, where you knew that those guys were legitimately going to change things.
- 10:00Ohio State do some special things, So I think it's always interesting to see
- 10:03in the anticipation of will we see that? And that's always fun, whether
- 10:09it's in the day two of spring or day ten, whenever we get a
- 10:13full opportunity to watch these guys. Because there is enough talent on hand at
- 10:18Ohio State at any given recruiting class where you could see that, and this
- 10:22is one of those recruiting classes. And you also have to be careful not
- 10:26to draw too many conclusions from one play or one thing. The thing that
- 10:31always jumps out to me was this wasn't even something we were there for.
- 10:35This is something that Ohio State put out on one of those little sizzle reels
- 10:37from camp and it was just one rep and it was Alex Williams, who
- 10:41was a defensive end going against Nick petit Frere, who is an offensive tackle,
- 10:46and Alex Williams. I mean like I think Nick petite Fair might have
- 10:50done a backwards summersault. That's how badly he got beat on this one rep.
- 10:54And just to let you know where those two gentlemen are now, they
- 10:58both actually ended up playing football in Nashville, Tennessee. Alex Williams had sixteen
- 11:01total tackles after transferring to Vanderbilt, and Nick petite Ferret started sixteen games for
- 11:07the Tennessee Titans as a rookie in twenty twenty two. So one play does
- 11:13not necessarily mean anything a whole you know, several plays does not necessarily necessarily
- 11:18guarantee greatness or that this guy's a bust because he had one bad play or
- 11:22three bad plays. It all, it's all just individual little things we can
- 11:28learn a little bit from. We will start learning all of that stuff on
- 11:31Tuesday. We'll learn a little more on Monday before we even get in there
- 11:33for Tuesday with those interviews. Start learning on Tuesday. We'll start telling you
- 11:37what we're seeing, what we're hearing, what we're learning and we'll do that
- 11:41all the way through spring ball, all the way through to the spring game
- 11:45on April thirteenth, and we'll be doing that all at buckeyebble dot com.
- 11:48That's where Tony, Kevin and I cover the team, Mark covers recruiting.
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- 12:07This would be a great month to do it. There's gonna be a
- 12:09lot of stuff for us to talk about there, brooding season, heading into
- 12:15uh kicking into high gear, as well as you have visits during the course
- 12:18of the spring, several potentially big name targets possibly on commitment watch soon.
- 12:22There is a lot to a lot to talk about. We're talking about it
- 12:26all at Buckeyehuddle dot com. That will do it for today. Thank you
- 12:28guys all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.