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Did the Patriots have a statement win vs the Ravens? NFL Week Week 16 Reactions! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Legendary, but well. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode,
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  Speaker 1: episode number one for seven of the so called sports channelists. Boys,
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  Speaker 1: how y'all doing today?
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  Speaker 2: Doing mighty fine? Actually, he may be doing fine.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing fucking fantastic, baby.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he's doing fantastic, though. I'm in
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  Speaker 4: three fantasy football championships. You know, Spurs are second in
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  Speaker 4: the entire NBA right now. You know the Chiefs are
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  Speaker 4: losing ball games.
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  Speaker 2: They should lose one.
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  Speaker 1: Step closer to Jeremiah Love. So you know, hey, we're the.
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  Speaker 4: Best at winning and the best at lose. That's all
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  Speaker 4: I gotta say. So, you know when we lose, we
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  Speaker 4: lose hard.
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  Speaker 1: How do you see your backups?
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  Speaker 2: Last name Chris Ola Dukin.
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  Speaker 1: That's how it is, Chris Ola Ducan. Dude, I was
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  Speaker 1: able to say his last name.
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  Speaker 4: He's a two time he's a three times, two times
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  Speaker 4: SUPERBORL champion, buddy, Get it correct?
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  Speaker 1: You act like I keep up with thirds three Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: Or the string for your information. There was a couple
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  Speaker 4: of guys ahead of them for a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Was Chad Henney, right, Chad.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, I mean like he was
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  Speaker 4: on the practice squad like him and moved bai him
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  Speaker 4: and Bailey Zappie for.
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  Speaker 3: A little forgot about Bailey was a Patriots legend, Mike White.
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  Speaker 1: Jets Jets legend two for Bailey.
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  Speaker 3: Zappie, Mike White, Mike White. So Michael White, Mike White,
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  Speaker 3: and Bailey Zappi bro then QB one A one B
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  Speaker 3: right there.
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  Speaker 2: That's the whole total argument.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm trying to bring up that
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  Speaker 4: fantasy like right now, like I do just feel like
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  Speaker 4: that payment, you know how we're talking like how did
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  Speaker 4: it go from eighteen hundred and four hundred to seventeen
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  Speaker 4: hundred and two hundred, Like what didn't it equate to
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  Speaker 4: doing like sixteen to three?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know now, I feel like that's a second
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  Speaker 3: sixteen three would make sense.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's crazy, Like it wouldn't be like
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  Speaker 1: a little bit closer.
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  Speaker 3: Like we're talking about payouts for first and second place
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  Speaker 3: in our dynasty leagues that me and Josh are competing
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  Speaker 3: against each other in also in our other dynasty league,
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  Speaker 3: the Diamond Daddy Leagues. I just happen to knock Josh
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  Speaker 3: out of the playoffs didn't just knock him out of
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs. I proceeded to almost double, almost double his
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  Speaker 3: point scored. He scored what no, what was it? Josh?
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  Speaker 3: One twenty five? Josh, I scored one thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Josh, don't, don't, don't let him feed your vs. I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to tell Brecon it was like one thirty.
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  Speaker 1: I told him, I said, Bro, you got this in
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  Speaker 1: the bag. I'm like, You're literally gonna double Josh's points.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: I could.
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  Speaker 1: I could feel this scaredness and Breckon's boys, you had
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  Speaker 1: terrified at one thirty, studde okay, it was so broke.
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  Speaker 1: So to give everyone back all season.
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  Speaker 2: My team's been dominant all seasons, and it.
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  Speaker 3: Has been, it has been, and this team's good going in.
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  Speaker 3: He had JSN right, he had five point two points
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  Speaker 3: with like five minutes left in the game. Right, and
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  Speaker 3: so I was like, bro, I'm chilling. Proceeded to drop
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  Speaker 3: twenty three and a half. He had, he had Carlos
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  Speaker 3: Santos had six points with a minute and thirty seconds left.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm chilling, I'm chilling. Right, goes off
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  Speaker 3: for like sixteen. He had Saquon Barkley, who had like
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  Speaker 3: who had like nine points, like nine point four points
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  Speaker 3: fourth quarter ends up going off for twenty three and
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  Speaker 3: a half, and I was like sweating bullets. I started
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  Speaker 3: knine luckily, and I like, I I was like, it's
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  Speaker 3: not over till it's over, and and and it ended,
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  Speaker 3: you know, luckily. I had Crysola.
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  Speaker 2: I just I feel like.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like no excuses. Reckon really like whooped my ass,
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  Speaker 4: Like I couldn't. There's nothing I would have done. But
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  Speaker 4: like going into that, I just saw my team and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, dude, I feel do not feel confident
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  Speaker 4: in my team this week. Like I was like, he
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  Speaker 4: had a lot of injuries, you were shi Rice out, dude,
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  Speaker 4: Like both my my first second string tight ends, knees
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  Speaker 4: are just missing, you know, Tucker Craft and zach Ertz
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  Speaker 4: mahomes a half.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean to row Josh, but the fact that
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  Speaker 1: I could actually pull it up here.
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  Speaker 4: Okay I could, Yeah, it just didn't work out. It
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  Speaker 4: was my team wasn't ready, wasn't built for the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: right now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the trio of Derek, Henry, Saquon
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  Speaker 1: and Jayson showed up, but just big.
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  Speaker 2: Don't forget it. Got Cairo Santo's bro he did his job.
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  Speaker 3: Carlos scared me. And then and then this was Jakobe
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  Speaker 3: Brissette's worst performance. He's been a top twelve quarterback. The
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  Speaker 3: weekend the week six, Josh Allen had his worst performance
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  Speaker 3: of the year as well. Granted I started, I started, Mark,
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  Speaker 3: we had two for you.
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  Speaker 1: No, Breckon, don't even start that. Twenty seven from Drake
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  Speaker 1: may A change eighteen, Jayalen Warren nineteen, Jamar Chase.
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  Speaker 2: Is cz eighteen came out twenty five crazy Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawre been productive, but thirty seven, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Trevor jack had even just dropped forty five.
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  Speaker 2: We already know who he did it against.
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  Speaker 1: Breckon you, speaking of that, let's just let's just go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and get into that first game right there, perfect
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  Speaker 1: perfect segue. So the battle of the overrated teams according
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  Speaker 1: to Josh here, which was the Jaguars versus the Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: It went to Jaguars went into Denver where they were
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  Speaker 1: undefeated and won thirty four to twenty, in which Jackson's
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  Speaker 1: the game has a path to the one seed if
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  Speaker 1: they win out here. So Breckon. After last week, after
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  Speaker 1: all the slack that we gave you about Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: last week, what were your thoughts from this game? Right here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean t love. He did his job.
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  Speaker 3: He came out, he cooked, you know, nearly three hundred yards,
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  Speaker 3: four touchdowns, ran one in, just looked absolutely dominant. And
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  Speaker 3: and what's crazy is like he looked unstoppable against debatably
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  Speaker 3: the best defense in the NFL. Like, for sure, top
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  Speaker 3: two defense. It's either them or the Texans, right, I
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  Speaker 3: guess you could argue the Seahawks, right, but in reality
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  Speaker 3: it's top two defense. And DDJ eliminated from the game
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  Speaker 3: with PS two. And what did he do? He fed
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  Speaker 3: Brenton Strange, he fed h Parker Washington. Just tila put
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  Speaker 3: the team on his back. And we've seen this whenever
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  Speaker 3: he played against the Chiefs. Where going into the game,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sorry, Josh, I'm not trying to hate on
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  Speaker 3: you going into the game, you did genuinely think like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, te law is gonna, you know, do his
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  Speaker 3: thing where he just plays an absolute shit game because
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  Speaker 3: we all know he's prone to, Yeah, we all know
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  Speaker 3: that he's super prone to just having an absolute dout
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  Speaker 3: of a performance. And that's not what happened. It's it's
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  Speaker 3: happened multiple times this season. Now where you're like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna go in, let's see, let's see what he
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  Speaker 3: does in this big moment, and and he shows out.
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  Speaker 3: I think josh is kind of right with him being
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  Speaker 3: the two most overrated teams. The Jags are a good team.
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  Speaker 3: I still think the Broncos are a bit overrated. That
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  Speaker 3: offense is at least six six upside. Now it isn't.
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  Speaker 3: And now yeah, bars uh, we're talking about Tyler Schuck
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  Speaker 3: a little bit later. But yeah, I mean Tilau did
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  Speaker 3: his job. He he bought out and I love to
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  Speaker 3: see it. I love to see josh Eda's words. It
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  Speaker 3: was it was all I texted in the group chat.
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  Speaker 3: I texted in the group chat. Dude, Rashichi head was
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  Speaker 3: wide open on a pass. What does he say? No
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  Speaker 3: one gives a funck back that guy? What does he
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  Speaker 3: do ten seconds later? Returns that bitch for a touchdown
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  Speaker 3: for a comeback? Right, Joshua talked shit about Ti Law
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  Speaker 3: last week. What does he do absolutely ball out against
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  Speaker 3: the best defense in the NFL and hangs up thirty
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  Speaker 3: four on them, thirty four on the Broncos. And this
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  Speaker 3: this opens up the door, as you said, to give
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  Speaker 3: them the one seed. And I think I think a
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  Speaker 3: lot of this has to attest William Cohen. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if you've seen in the press conference about them
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  Speaker 3: being a small market team and going back and forth
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  Speaker 3: with Sean Payton. Yeah, and and I I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: love to see that out of the head coach, a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of that ship talking that banter. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I love to see it because it's like it's it's
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  Speaker 3: you could tell this team played with some mocks. He
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  Speaker 3: played like they're heart out and bought out against this
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  Speaker 3: good team. And bo Nicks didn't play bad, like as
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  Speaker 3: much as I shot on Bonix, because he's a check
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  Speaker 3: down Charlie. Like he pushed the ball downfield. Granted he
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a great completion percentage. Mm hmm, that's not true.
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  Speaker 2: He did. He didn't.
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  Speaker 1: No, I didn't remember what I told you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not even I'm not even gonna. But
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  Speaker 3: as I've as I've said, the addition of Jacoby Myers
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  Speaker 3: to this offense is like it cannot be stated how
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  Speaker 3: important it is, Like since Jacoby.
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  Speaker 2: And my one hundred five yards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Parker Washington did do really good, like I said earlier,
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  Speaker 3: but like Jacoby still did his thing, you know, four
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  Speaker 3: for forty five, Like Jacoby Weekend week Out has done good.
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  Speaker 3: But I feel like it just like adding him to
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  Speaker 3: this offense made it complete. It was the last piece
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  Speaker 3: to the puzzle for the broncos. I mean, prayers for
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  Speaker 3: that that receiver what was his name that got lipped
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  Speaker 3: right out? Yeah, that was bad. He prayers out to him.
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  Speaker 3: And and I mean I mean it was clean a checkdown,
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  Speaker 3: it was clean, It was clean. Do you guys know
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  Speaker 3: what the severity was on it exactly?
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  Speaker 1: I mean he got hit like right, like square in
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  Speaker 1: the chest and like, yeah, like whiplashed. So I think
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  Speaker 1: it's multitude of things go on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean you've seen some good with a
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  Speaker 3: lot of bad with Bonix. He wasn't super accurate in
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  Speaker 3: this game, and he had that costly turnover, Like I
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  Speaker 3: think I think that's kind of what sealed the game,
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  Speaker 3: you know. But yeah, I mean, Tila absolutely cooking moving up.
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  Speaker 3: He's actually in the top five for MVP votes right now,
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  Speaker 3: which is insane to say. And we all know who's
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  Speaker 3: at number one right now, don't we. But I'll contain myself.
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  Speaker 3: I'll contain myself.
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  Speaker 2: Well while he contained himself.
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  Speaker 4: The battle of the frauds the two most mediocre winning
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  Speaker 4: teams in the league. Of course, someone was gonna come
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  Speaker 4: out on top. We're gonna see who was the most
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  Speaker 4: mediocre of the two. Obviously it's the Denver Broncos. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars won this game. Now they're five, they're still in
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  Speaker 4: the hunt for the first seed in the entire AFC.
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  Speaker 4: I understand it, I get it, But am I really
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  Speaker 4: gonna take a lot from a team that they beat,
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  Speaker 4: a team that only scored thirteen points on the New
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  Speaker 4: York Jets, that only that wasn't a shootout with the
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  Speaker 4: Denver Broncos that barely beat the Tennessee Titans in Week one?
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  Speaker 4: Am I supposed to harp on this type of performance
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  Speaker 4: against a mediocre number one seed in the Denver Broncos. No,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do that, you know. So they've been
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  Speaker 4: in shootouts with the Raiders, they've been in shootouts with
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  Speaker 4: Kansas City, and we're out of the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, I just feel like, once we have
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  Speaker 2: to see.
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  Speaker 4: Once we see the Jaguars actually beat a real football team,
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  Speaker 4: then I guess I'll really think about it.
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  Speaker 3: Dude. I feel like I feel like i'm listening. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like I feel like you're just just Pinocchio, like
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  Speaker 3: you're about to knock your your camera, your camera over
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  Speaker 3: with that nose just stretching out, Brothers.
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  Speaker 4: The Broncos biggest win was against the Cowboys, and the
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  Speaker 4: Cowboys deepense suck at the time, so I.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, we still do watch your mouth. We still do
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  Speaker 1: watch your mouth, buddy.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, and they got into shootout with the Washington
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  Speaker 4: Commanders and be done by one point.
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  Speaker 3: So that was a crazy game. I like, like, so
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  Speaker 3: that's what That's what I'm saying, Like, the Broncos are
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  Speaker 3: very fraudulent. They did just okay, But you're just leaving
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  Speaker 3: off the Packers.
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  Speaker 1: The battle of the mediocre was going to leaving off
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  Speaker 1: the Packers was.
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  Speaker 2: More mediocre than the other.
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  Speaker 3: But leaving off the Packers, leaving off, leaving off the Texans.
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  Speaker 3: But I did say it, but leaving off the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: But I say, yeah, he's Cherry.
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  Speaker 3: Leaving off the Cherry. Different Chargers, the Colt, the Chargers.
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  Speaker 2: You really the Chargers.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the Chargers, the team.
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  Speaker 3: Bro. No, I'm just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, say it's hottest, one of the hottest teams in
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  Speaker 1: the league right now, just saying one of the hottest.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: No, But one thing you can't say is the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: offense versus the Denver defense. That was what we're looking at.
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  Speaker 1: This was the whole matchup of the game right here,
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  Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence after as much like that at.
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  Speaker 3: The Game of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Are they that good though, I don't know, because we
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  Speaker 1: don't according to Judge, we don't think the Broncos are
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  Speaker 1: that good.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think their defense is really that good.
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  Speaker 4: Like you look at them against teams, they get scored
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  Speaker 4: on like crazy. The Commander scored on them like crazy.
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  Speaker 4: There's been the Giants have scored on them like crazy.
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  Speaker 1: With that, he's not gonna fall for I just don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's that impressive. Like they play good teams,
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  Speaker 2: they lose, so it's kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of Hey, hey, I'm just saying that.
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  Speaker 4: They are scored on their fraudulent defense, fraudulent team. I
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  Speaker 4: think the Jaguars are the better of the two, but
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  Speaker 4: they're both still mediocre.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying they the NFL and sacks by a mile.
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  Speaker 2: You play media, you play bad teams, you do that.
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  Speaker 2: What do you want to hear?
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  Speaker 1: But No, Trevor Lawrence, these past five games, he's living up.
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  Speaker 1: He is living up to his contract and as he
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  Speaker 1: is crazy as it's saying, this past four week stretch,
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  Speaker 1: he's playing as a top five quarterback, which I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think i'd ever say in years, like all the top five,
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  Speaker 1: he's playing at a level I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: We asked the other day and he didn't say he'd
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  Speaker 4: take him over like twelve guys.
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  Speaker 3: So I said, I said he was he was debatable
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  Speaker 3: top ten in the past the past. Damien called you
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  Speaker 3: and I said he was debatable top ten.
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  Speaker 4: Damien, I said, he debatable top ten named different He
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  Speaker 4: named like fourteen different quarterbacks and he took them all
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  Speaker 4: above Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 3: There's there's there's. I'm not saying that t VA.
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  Speaker 1: We did it on it was on the pod too,
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  Speaker 1: because it.
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  Speaker 3: Was like Joe.
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  Speaker 4: We called him after and then we enlisted quarterbacks and
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  Speaker 4: he said he he picked like fourteen different ones over
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  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: Mmmm, so you're not even a t low guy.
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  Speaker 3: Like that.
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  Speaker 1: Huh, you're just I'm.
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  Speaker 3: A realistic guy. I'm a realistic guy.
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  Speaker 1: So he the past four weeks, he hasn't been playing
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  Speaker 1: up to the top five level.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's been playing pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's been playing really good.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: You know, mahomes even better.
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  Speaker 1: So I wouldn't say he is.
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  Speaker 3: He is.
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  Speaker 1: For sure he's playing.
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  Speaker 3: Like that, you know, first overall, pick right now?
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  Speaker 1: No, for for sure he is. But you know what,
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  Speaker 1: all right, let's get to this next game. Right here,
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  Speaker 1: we have the New England Patriots versus the Baltimore Ravens.
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  Speaker 1: And what's the Ravens? They were up in this game
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  Speaker 1: twenty four to thirteen, and the Patriots with Drake Drake
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  Speaker 1: May May came back and won this ballgame right here,
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  Speaker 1: and now the Patriots if they went out, the road
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  Speaker 1: is or the path is the most clearest for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: They win their last two games, bro, they are the
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  Speaker 1: one they are the one seed, and they're seven oh
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  Speaker 1: seven oh on the road. So what are y'all reactions
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  Speaker 1: to this game?
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  Speaker 3: Bro?
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  Speaker 4: While we were watching this game, me and Brisa I
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: had it on and like Drake May was playing and
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: but she didn't realize I was watching the Patriots and
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: she like showed me a TikTok video and was like,
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: you go to a painting class in Boston and it's
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: these people like drawing landscape.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen that. I've seen that video.
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  Speaker 4: And there was just one random guy posted like a
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  Speaker 4: he painted like a picture of Drake May and it
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  Speaker 4: was just like one of like just a random one.
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  Speaker 4: And but the head was backwards in the jersey. The
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  Speaker 4: head was facing where the back of the jersey was
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  Speaker 4: and just said May number ten. He's like, look, can
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  Speaker 4: we totally do this if we went to a painting
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  Speaker 4: and it was like and I was like, look, I'm
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  Speaker 4: watching Drake Drake May May right now proceed to throw
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: like a forty yard fifty yard touchdown to Kyle Williams.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: While that happened too, So that a great moment in
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: sports history.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Absolutely beautiful to go in about this game. So if
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: you guys go back and listen to the pods. I
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: have been relentless about the Derrick Henry just misuse in
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: this in this team. It doesn't make sense to me,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: and I've brought it up multiple times on multiple different podcasts.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: I like hardball needs to go at this point in
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: my opinion, like they're gonna miss the playoffs, and it's
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: because of coaching. They're gonna miss playoffs, and it's one
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: hundred percent because of coaching. Lamar Jackson goes down, Right,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: who do you have in the backfield but a guy
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: that rushes for two thousand yards multiple seasons in a row. Right, Like,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: he's just one of the best backs in the NFL.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: He's for sure Hall of Famer, and he's averaging seven
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: point two yards of carry. You don't have your starting
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: quarterback and you're up two scores in the fourth quarter.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: What would you do if you're any if you're any
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: NFL team, what would you do? You'd run the ball,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: but you would run the ball with your Hall of
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: fame big running back that's known for getting better as
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: the game goes on. He didn't get a single touch
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. That is insane.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: After his rushing touchdown, he didn't get a touch after that,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: not a single touch.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Bro, there was a fucking nobody getting touches. I don't
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: even know his name.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Oh it was well, not Keithon Mitchell. There was somebody else, some.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Other random guy I've never even heard of dude.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I saw I saw that one
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: right there. Oh what is his name? It's not even
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: popping up on the box score. That's how bad.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. He was getting. He got more touches.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Yeah, I can't find it. But okay,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: let let me ask you this, as far as with
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the Patriots right here, do you think after this game
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: this officially makes them real Super Bowl contendents? Because I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: know the biggest knock on them is after last week
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: they were up twenty one zero versus the Bills. The
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: next thing you know, they came back on them. And
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: then this week whenever not backs against the wall, but
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: like for the one seed, like stakes were on the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: line for him, they came back and won. So are
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: they real? Right?
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I think last week was just the
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Bills had their number because because they had to split
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: with them, you know what I'm saying, And the Bills
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: beat them in the first game, and so they had
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: to come back and beat them this game make it
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: interesting and I think that in if we can week out,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: you're competing with the Bills and you're winning or losing
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: by one score, You're a super Bowl contender like that,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: without a doubt in my mind, Like the Bills are
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: one of the best teams in the NFL, especially with
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: all the injuries that are going on in the AFC,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: like they got Josh Allen, Like they're like they're their
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: super Bowl or bust. Really, And if the Patriots are
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: losing to them by three points or less or winning
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: to them by three points or less, like that's a
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: super Bowl contending team completely in my mind.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: No, I think the Patriots are starting to prove who
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: they are. I mean, they've been doing it all season,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: and I think finally getting wins against teams that we
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: looked at in the past as being these dominant teams.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: They they're really holding their own and competing very well,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: especially against like we said, the Josh Allens. I mean
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: they kind of had they had the Bills on the
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: ropes and they beating the Bills earlier in the season.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: And but my thing is like even when the Baltimore
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Ravens were up in this game, I never felt like
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: the Patriots were.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Out of it.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Like I always felt like, oh, Drake may is gonna
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: make a big play, and it's not like he has
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: this track record or really the the I mean, he
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: hasn't been in the league long enough to really be oh, like, oh,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: he's gonna make a big play. But I don't think
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: anyone that was watching this game ever had a doubt
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: what was gonna happen. And it just felt like inevitable
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: that he was gonna lead them down the field and
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: score some big touchdowns. And he he did, and he
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: made some really big throws Stefon Diggs.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I mean he stepped up really big to the play,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: and we know that's what the Patriots have really been missing,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: is that big play guy. And Stefan Diggs has been
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: super reliable as of late, especially over the.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Last three three years.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: So weak and then and then as far as like
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Mac Hollins, we know Mac Collins always has those games
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: where he steps up big. But I think getting a
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: guy like a deep threat like Kyle Williams were involved,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: because I feel like every time Kyle Williams makes a
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: big play, it's just a really big play or a touchdown,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: and he just continues to be a consistent big play
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: threat for this offense. And we know what this defense is.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: They could have did a little bit better in this one.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: They struggled really against the run, and like Recon said,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: they should have leaned on Derrick Henry Way more because
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: he really does slow down the game and take the
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: ball out of the quarterback's hands, especially Tyler Huntley, Like
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: he's not gonna do big things to get you the wins.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: You just got to rely on your playmakers, and they
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: didn't do that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: But we'll wait to see.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Hopefully Treyvon Henderson gets healthy pretty soon as they can
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: continue securing this number one seed. But as far as
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: it goes, I think the Patriots and the Bills are
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: the real threats in the in the AFC right now
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: to make it a super.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Bowl, dude. And and it ruins mine and Alfonso's take
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: about the Ravens ending up making the playoffs because do
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: but like, I don't even like, I don't blame Lamar,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I don't blame I don't blame the players. I'm completely
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: blaming the coach. I think harball. Hardball needs to be gone, Like, like,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: you have a quarterback that's been injured, ranted on this
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: multiple weeks. Now you have a quarterback that is obviously
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: still injured. Got injured again. In this game, you had
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: the game in like you were, you were up two scores,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: you were up two scores in the fourth quarter, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: and you found a way to lose it with like
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: with like ten minutes.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And they always do this. This is a track record
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: of years with John Harball. Honestly, there's been I think
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: there's a screenshot like it's a big old NFL memes
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: thing like where there's like fifteen plus games where they
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: do this and just me, I'm sitting Lamar the rest
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of the year, there's no point like her, like even
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: though they're theoretically still in the playoff hunt in the AFC,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: SYD or not South the North.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there are two games back from the Steelers. Like,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: there's no it would take a miracle.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you this, any coach, if you
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: can hand pick any coach for the Ravens the following year,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: who would it be, like just based on who's in
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the market, not like somebody who would miraculously Beeth Fisher.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I've I've saw some names as far as the Ravens
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: are interested in Robert Salah, which I don't think.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: That's continued to suck.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher. That is a name. Bro, I completely forgot
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: about Jeff Fisher.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: M you think you think that they would go with
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: a defensive oriented head coach, that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Would Sherman Moore.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Sherman Moore is available, Let's go get Sherman Moore for
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the Baltimore. Oh Man, that freak Holy crap. Dennis Allen,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Dennis Allen, No, I see. My defense wouldn't be bad.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: But like, at the same time, if you get a
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: real offensive coach for Lamar, like he's already won two
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: m vps, just imagine how much more explosive he could be.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Brian Flores, Hey, Brian Flores actually would.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want it to happen.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: So maybe I know they're talking about keeping Mike McDaniels.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Joe, I don't know what the John Green.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: How Josh, let me ask you this. How is Matt
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Naggie in head coaching circles?
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Take them to take them? Like, realistically, how is he
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: take him? Bro? Take them? That's all I'm saying. Hey, hey,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: realistically he should be in head coaching.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Send him to Baltimore, to Baltimore, please, I remember the.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Home Come Home, Cliff Cli Cliff might be getting Clyff
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: would be Nah, I think I think that they had
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: too bad of a season.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's had too bad of a season.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: He has had too bad with Lamar.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Think about my my homes him with myhome coordinator.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Let's get them out before.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Like I've seen somewhere.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've seated Sober. I don't know exactly where,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: but yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: And then Baker with uh, what what was his name
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: the head coach there?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: It was Baker. It was Baker with Cliff Yeah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, whenever Baker Baker and whenever he
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: was at.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Lincoln, was it Lincoln Riley, Lincoln Riley?
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: It was Lincoln Riley.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Cliff Kingsbury founded Baker Mayfield and Johnny Manziel and Patrick Mahomes.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Dude, and he propped up Kyler Murray to make us
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: think that he was an MVP candidate.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: He did shoot, would die that. Cliff Kingsbury did not
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: deserve to get fired in area.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: No, me too, me too, me too. He took a
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: bag and he took a year off. Can't blame the guy.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean hey, no, he went to USC that year.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: No, he took a I thought he took a year off.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I thought you often went to like Japan or some ship.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Or like like.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: He right, he took a year off. Yeah, signed the USC,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: but he never coached for UFC. He signed with Washington.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. I completely forgot about that. He
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: was gonna be the O C for Lincoln Riley. I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: completely forgot about that.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Dude. Imagine that team he would have had.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: He would have thought about that, probably would have made
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: the probably would have made the Coulgeball playoff. Coach Cliff
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Kingsbury had Caleb Williams m.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: The Commanders, Jactor Drake Drake the Commanders what.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: The Commanders, doctor Drake Drake may May and gave him
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: to Cliff Kingsbury.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Drake Drake May, Drake Drake May May Man. He's so amazing,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: He's amazing.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: No, but all right, what imagine if the Bears just
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: passed up on Kayleb Williams and he went to Cliff
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Kingsbury and Washington. Dude, that would have I mean, Jenny
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Daniels is doing good, but I mean Jenny Daniel's I
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: think he's limited compared to you.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: You know what.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Let's I was gonna say Steelers and Lions next. But
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: let's go and talk Bears football right here. That that
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: good game right there. The final score was sixteen to
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: twenty two in overtime right here, in which Jordan Love
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: did go out of this game. I believe it was
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: after a quarter. It was like early in the second
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: quarter of concussion. Malik Willis finished his game and the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: sailor was Caleb to DJ in this he didn't do bad.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: He's never done bad. I was never done bad. I
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: was just given context. Bears are now eleven and four
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and in control right now of the NFC North. So
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: what are y'all's reactions to this game?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Cairo Santos, let's talk about Cairo. Damien calls me.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Damien calls me like, I know I didn't win, but
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: he said, Dude, I messed up by starting Cairo Sontos
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: because of the wind.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Boy, it did not matter.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I called you over a Cairo sent Dude, he doesn't
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: have nothing better to do. Yeah, it was like it
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: was like started gros pocket watching rost pocket watching while
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: in his pockets.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Bro bro Bro.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: He just started banging and banging him and Carol Sonics
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: did not care how strong the win was that day.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I just wanted forty or like forty to forty.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, Bro was hitting fifty yarders, forty yarders thirty
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: like game.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: The Pope was on his side. The Pope was on
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: his side.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: No, but no, I mean Milik Willis. I mean he
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: could only do so much.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: He's limited in his abilities to really make big pat
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: plays down the field with his arm, but he made
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: some really big ones.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I do think he played very well.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I think his very good outlook on where he's at
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: in his career that he could be a good service
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: little backup.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I think he did as much as a backup can
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: do in this game.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: But when you run into a an all like this,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: when you run into an offense who is dealing with
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: a little bit of an injury but they still know
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: how to just put on points when they need to
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: put on points, it looked like they were really stagnant,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: struggling against his Green Bay Packers defense, who was still
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: very good without Michael Parsons. Like we were still talking
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: about Green Bay Packers being a playoff team even without
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Micah Parsons. So they're just a team that we thought
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: they were gonna be preseason, before the Michael Parsons trade
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: But Caleb Williams, let's talk.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: About a guy that looks a guy that has his
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: team to a really big drive down the stretch to
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: send them to overtime. And then also that just big
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: play that he made in overtime to DJ Moore putting
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: the ball where it needed to be, absolutely.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Beautiful, put it in a bucket.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Game over killer. Williams just knows how to make big
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: plays after big plays. That's all he goes for is
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: big plays. The run game is very consistent, even though
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: it wasn't hitting and also unders this game. Having those
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: two guys in the backfield opens up so much for
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: this team, especially with Kayleum and Nung Guy even being
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: in a secondary role and still getting nearly like what's it?
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I'm going blank on the mat. But he had at
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: least over four.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Yards per carry in this game and five point that's
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: that's amazing. Five point six yards per carry in this game.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: He continued to handle the rock in the role that
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: he was given. You're gonna keep a defense honest when
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: you do that, and when you continue to pound the
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: ball when rushing, it's gonna open up so much for
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: your offense passing when it matters the most, and then
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: it did that and they're not even they don't even
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: have Romo Dunes right now. So their team is still
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: has a whole other weapon they can add going into
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: the playoffs, especially when it comes to playing big teams,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: they always they still have another person to add on
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: to it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm hmm. Yeah, No, it's it's like you were saying, Josh,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: it's kind of crazy because the Bears, I know, thank
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: you the Bears. I know, whenever it comes down to
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: this point in the game where where it's it's three
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: to sixteen, it's game over, they're not coming back. And
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's if it's something that they
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: put in the water. I don't know if it's the Pope.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the beach go. I don't
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: know what it is that they did. But man, this
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: team looked electric. Milike Willis, I was seeing videos of
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: these Packers fans being like Miami should have started him
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: from the start, you know, like he he did not
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: play bad. He did not play bad. He did actually
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: like he played he played mistake free football, Like I
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: guess you could have asked he did. I feel like
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: he did really good for a backup in my opinion,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: and but I mean, it really just came down to
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: the big plays in the big moments. I always say,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: if you win the turnover battle and the big play margin,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: you're gonna win the game. And I mean that's what
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: the Bears did. They They the big plays won them
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: this game.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: So let's talk so baby goat, let's talk some baby
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: goat right here. You know, Josh, I was in the
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: trenches last year defending Caleb Williams. I was fighting for
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: my life. I damn your thought. I had to get
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: off that train. But you know what, I held on strong,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and I just love to see it. It's just you're
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: finally seeing an offensive coach who has Caleb Williams towards
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the end of the year. And he won't always have
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the prettiest as far as completion to attempts ratio, as
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: far as his completion percentage. It won't always be the best.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: But like Brecken was saying, when it's time to make
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: those plays, when it's time to make those throws, he
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: makes those throws that only a few select guys in
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the NFL can make, and that throw to DJ Moore
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: in overtime, that was a throw where mahomes Alan Herbert.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: This is just off the top of my head. If
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I'm missing anybody, maybe maybe Burrow. Like there's a selection number.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying maybe four, at most five guys
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: could make that throw, including Caleb Williams. And that's what separated.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: J Walker J Walker's making that throw.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: PJ Walker shout out to p J Walker and J Walker. Yeah,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I had to shout out the normal normal.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: He had he had debatably the best throw? Was it
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: two years ago? Three years ago? I'm the scenes to
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: DJ Moore?
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: It was too j dj Moore, it was like hell
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Mary right, yeah, whenever he's still on the Panthers. Yeah,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: it was in the Falcons.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, Hey, this is familiar for DJ Moore.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, I'm not gonna lie. I thought DJ
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Moore died on the field for a second, but I
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: didn't realize like he was just catching his breath there
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: for Yeah.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I thought he knocked the wind out of himself or something. Hey,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: but it's not talked about that his first I feel
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: like his first touchdown throw was just as good where
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: he's rolling out its leg in the back of the
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: end zone. It was cover beautiful. That was beautiful.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm just saying I said it last week. The Bears.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: The Bears are doing this like y'all are saying without
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Roma Dunza. But Caleb Williams, if he could make these
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: throws in in the big time games, which he's been doing.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: He already has six come from behind wins this year already,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: So if he could continue this in the playoffs, he
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: could knock off one of the top two teams in
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: the NFC, which I don't know if y'all want to
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: get into it, but.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Does he still do the Bears. The Bears, they're the
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: one seed, no, no, no Seahawks now, but they have a shot.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: At the ones they have forty Niners went out, They're
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: they're automatically the one seed.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: So the Bears they play the Niners next week. They
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: would have to beat the Niners, and Niners beat Seattle
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and then somehow Rams. The Rams would have to trip
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: up a game even if destiny, if Seattle loses to
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the Panthers, I mean, if Seattle loses to the Panthers,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: it's a whole frenzy. It makes it a lot more interesting.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Sunday Night, Chicago win.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Goals, go to the one seed.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Chicago has to be, has to be the forty nine ers, Like, yeah,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: they lose there, eliminated in.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: The one seed.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because they just.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Don't. All they need to do is just win out
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and they're the first seed.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that, like a lot of these
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: teams are still playing for something.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: The Vikings are seven and eight even in the AFC.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Also, yeah, so when did the Vikings almost go five
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: hundred brouh?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: They played the Cowboys and then the Giants. That's that's how.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: And the Commanders, Yeah, and the Commanders Yeah.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, no, let's talk.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about this was before on Thursday Night football.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Obviously the first game was amazing, but this was for
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the clear number one seed in the NFC. Now they
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: control their own destiny. Both teams did. The Seattle Seahawks
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: versus the La Rams and which the Rams I believe
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: they were thirty to fourteen in the fourth quar and
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: over time Seahawks won thirty eight to thirty seven. Maybe
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: that was a controversial two point conversion which Breckon and
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Damian and I we kind of conversed about for a
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: second there, but reactions from this great game right here, guys.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Dude, it was I mean, it was everything that everyone
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: wanted right like it had. It had more viewership than
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, if I'm not mistaken. It was. It
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: was insane and I've seen it. I think maybe I am,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: but I've seen a TikTok. I've seen a TikTok, and
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I might be lying to yous TikTok.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: More more.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Chiefs and Chiefs.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Watch game of all time. I don't know. I don't
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: know about that one, but.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I will say I will say I feel like I
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: feel like whenever it comes to regular season football, this
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: is I feel like this season is debatably like peak
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: some of the best that I can think of. There's
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: been so many close games, and this is one of
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: the games.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Of the year for like the past like five weeks.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I know it's it's been Week one with the Ravens, Chiefs, Cowboys.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: This game.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Stealers Lions Stellers Lions. That was a crazy game.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: That was an insane game.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: There's been so many great games was crazy too.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: There's absolute, absolute cinema all over. But man, let me
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: talk about my boy, Maddie Stafford. We can go back. Dude,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: absolute MVP. Just throwing four hundred and fifty yards, three touchdowns,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: no turnovers, doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Is he better than Drew Brees?
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Josh, you're good at this, Josh, you
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: know what. No, I gotta do this, Josh, I'm not
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: gonna lie discourse.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I love this hard.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Stop for a second. I'm not in atting that. I'm
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: not entertaining that.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: You're not entertaining, Dude, You're not. It's a real question.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: No, if he has he has, he has.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: A super Bowl and he'll have one more m v
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: P than Drew Brees. And he has been to more
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Super Bowls than Drew Brees.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Josh, you know what? You know, like
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: all all through the three.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: He hasn't been to more super Bowl.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: He would be if he goes to Super Bowl this year,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: wins super if Josh.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: If he wins the super Bowl, if he wins the
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl this year.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Like if he's Answer Bowl MVP, Well, I don't know.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: MVP is a little weird because you could it could
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: be anybody. But like I mean, Super MVP and Super
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Bowl this year? Is he better than Drew Brees?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Breaking?
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: He is? No?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Is like breaking like statistic dead ass, actually dead ass.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: No, No, Drew Brees is, and Drew Brees is top
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: three and every single quarterback statistic, every single one. And
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: we all know Drew Brees has been robbed of MVPs
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: like I don't I don't want to get into it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: But Matthew Stafford wouldn't be robbed because he was so
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: undeniably the.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: MVP, undeniably great.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: My gosh, I don't want to get into it.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: And you can make the argument Drew Brees was in
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: the Michael Thomas here well, Cooper Cup, like you said,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: was in the Calvin Johnson and the Cooper Cup and
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: the Pooka Nakula years.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: So no, Matthew Stafford's great, Matthew Stafford's great.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: I feel like you gotta think Matthew Stafford took a
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: sixth round wide receiver and turned him into the number
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: one wide receiver in the NFL. Drew Brees didn't take
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: take Lance Moore, Marcus Colston. He only took them to
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: their peak, which was like a thousand yards. But he
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: took pooka nakua to a whole other level.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: What about Michael Thomas, I already said, Michael.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: He's talking about like bottom tier, like.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Bottom tier guy. He took them to a next level.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: No, I agree. I love Matthew Stafford.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: I love that you're making look at gods that yeah
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: after he I love that you're making all these points, Joshua,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: because these are the same points that.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: I brought up whenever you were blazing the funk out
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: of Josh Allen.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen still better than both of them. I'm just saying.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: But but we look at we look at Drew Brees
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: and Matthew Stafford, who breaking.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: A look at me, look at me.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: It's not working. It's not working working.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: He stopped.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: This.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: This was good, like this was good, A genuine question,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: like a genuine no.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: And it's it's a good question. It is a good
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: question to have.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: But I hear like angers starting to like slowly.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: It is it is Drew would not be on par
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: with like, you.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Know, you know what, Josh, you know what, Josh. I
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: wouldn't want to see Matthew Stafford finish out his career
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: because I think he's got like two or three more years.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: I think if Matthew Stafford wins another suit, well he's
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: closer to Patrick Mahomes than he is to Drew Breesi.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Anyways, we're talking about the Seahawks versus the Rams.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: You can't have a.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Real genuine conversation with your friends nowadays, I guess.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: So it's whatever.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Turned out with my fan. Let me know if you
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: guys can hear it, because I'm actually starting to sweat.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I've actually started shiny ass white a conversation. He knows,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: I know. It's a conversation, dude, Okay, Josh, stop, dude,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: it is. It is a conversation, you know what.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to build it. I just want him
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: to build up a guy, just for him to tear
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: him down. That's why do it, Just do it.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm actually curious now because I do want to
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: see where he lines up in all time statistics for quarterbacks,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: The real statistics is m v P super Bowl wins, right, I.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Mean those those those matter for sure. But like Nick
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Foles won a Super Bowl, like Eli Manning won two
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Super Bowls v a.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famer though, that's different.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, And I'm saying Matthew Stafford is a
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. But we're not debating if Eli Manning
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: is better than Drew Brees.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Records stay called Bricket.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: No, that was that was not even gonna work. That
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: was not even gonna work, because it's work.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Can't, No, you can't in passing yards, talk to in
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: passing touchdowns, talk to and versus Tom Brady.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I could totally make the case that he is.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: What's his all time record? Drew Brees hasn't versus the goat.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees hasn't been Tom Brady in a playoff game,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: has done it twice. Didn't get a chance exactly because
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: he never took them there.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: He got hold.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: He got hold of the Bay, Tampa Bay and New Orleans.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Remember whenever they won Super Bowl, made Drew Brees retire.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah, let's still the God squad. I
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I think there is a debate with the guy Manning,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: and you.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Know there's not Bro, Josh, you're smiling, Bro, come on,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: that's not work, that's that's just that's.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Just like this, Josh, I love this, Josh.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: It's so bad Marino or Drew Brees.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know where Josh is going here. I know
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: where Josh was gonna go here. If you said Dan Marino,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I already knew where he was going. I already knew it.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: I'll just let you have your day right now. I'll
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: go go Breckon, go talk about Matthew staff.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: In Seattle, in La, Seattle in LA thirty eight, thirty seven.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Breckon, go. Drew Brees better than Aaron Rodgers.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Don't say no, no, he's not no no, no, yes,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: he explained to Aaron four explained, MVP. Explain, Breckon, please explain.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Please give a valid argument on how he's better than
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers get back at the ages of thirty six
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: and thirty seven.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, m vps aren't anything special.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: You want an MVP over Mahomes.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: You know he has four more m vps, Drew.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Brees and Drew Brees.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: No, I'm playing.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Rogers Roethlisberger.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, he is better than Big Ben. No Rogers, Rogers?
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Is he Rogers?
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Probably Ben Rothlisberger led the five straight season.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Shut up, Brojosh Matt Ryan or Drew Josh Matt Ryan.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Or that's not a b brou Come on, and.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: He did it outdoors too and won two Super Bowls.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Uh, Drew Brees survived a hurricane, brought the city back. Anybody,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: any other quarterback in the NFL do that.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Technically, he was in San Antonio. He wasn't in New
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Orleans that year. Just saying one in Texas soil doesn't
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't count for New Orleans.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Counts for the city though.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Shut up anyways. Matthew Stafford balled out Pukakua after making
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: the the remarks, as we all know when absolutely, dude,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: we're not gonna get canceled for that. In reality, I
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: don't I don't get. I don't get the whole getting
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: upset thing. I don't. I don't get why people were
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: upset at Pooka.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: It was a cartoon, like it was apparently it was
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a cartoon that.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Like apparently dudes can't rub their hands together. It's crazy.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, bro, It's like it's like that's all he did.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: That's all he did.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: He just apparently that was I look back at it,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: it was like a villain and like it was real
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: anti semitic and like something. Oh my god, you want
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: him to realize that he's doing something that like was
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: in a in a newspaper comics strip in the nineteen twenties,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: like the fuck out of here Bro, like when they
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: tried canceling Kyrie Irving, Like it is so stupid.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: It makes it makes no sense. And what did he do?
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: He absolutely bought out, went for over two hundred yards
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: two touchdowns with the absence of DeVante Adams. What does
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: he do? Put the team on his back with Matthew
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Stafford and absolutely cooks. And it's not just him, dude.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: He spread the ball out to so many different people.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: There was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: ten people that pass for Matthew Stafford in this game.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Absolutely insane. And on the other side, we all know
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Joshua's go. Sam Donald looked absolute dog shit in the
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: beginning of this game. And what does he do. He
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: comes back in the fourth quarter and puts the team
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: on his back. He has not seen ghosts, He's seeing
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: the end of the tunnal. He is seeing the light,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: he is seeing the w and what does he do
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: He closes it out and goes absolutely nuclear. Taeth Walker
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: kept him in this game. But what did Matthew Stafford
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: and jaysn do they closed it out. It was a
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: closed case and they walk out the number one seed
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: in the NFC. Absolute cinema. If you guys didn't watch
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: the game, go back and watch the YouTube highlights because
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: it's gotta be over an hour long with how electric
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: that this game was.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: No, this game was absolutely insane.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Breckon with the better quarterback than Drew Brees one throw
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: on one side and then Sam Donald on the other
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: just being who he is.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: You know, we know he's gonna turn the ball over.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: We know he's gonna turn the ball over, but you
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: know what he's gonna do, prove the naysayers wrong because
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: you know who he is. He's Sam Darnald Dude. He
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: showed up when it mattered the most in the fourth quarter.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Got it to the man, the man with the plan
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: j s N. It don't matter who you put in
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: front of him when it matters the most, Who's gonna
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: get the ball? Jackson Smith and Jigbu. He did what
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: he had to do. But I will say this game
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: would not have been won without a guy that single
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: handedly beat me in the Fantasy football playoffs and Kenneth
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Walker the third showed up big time.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I talked crap all year about him just.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: A mess with Breckon, but look at him now doing
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: very good. Zach Sharberney did still a touchdown, though I
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: know Breckon really scared about that.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I see Kenneth Walker broke it off for like forty
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: five yards. He went down and Joshlyn was watching with
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: me and I was like, yeah, that's my guy. He's
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: really good, but he always gets his touchdown stolen. Fucking
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: forty five yard play and then I'm like, oh my gosh.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: The next place.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Immediately took and Zach I was like, shoot it, but
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: you know, we got it. This game was just absolutely electric.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: These are games that you go back and think of
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Rams versus Chiefs in twenty eighteen, like this is this
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: is that type of cinema when it comes to a
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: regular season football game, and I mean, you couldn't write
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: it any better. And we look at Pukakua. He's just
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: been balling out all season, angry. Puka just looks different
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: this year. I mean I was talking to someone about
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: I forgot who I was talking to. Puka's always been great,
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: but this year he's making himself a lot better, especially
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: for especially for when it comes to being aggressive at
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: the catch point. He is going up and getting the
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: football and just bullying receivers. He's talking a lot more
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: smack than he used to, and he just looks like
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: the best guy out there at all times. I dare
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: to say he's the best wide receiver in football, and
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: I think it's him then Jamar and until Justin Jefferson
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: gets a quarterback, we could have that conversation once again.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson's third right now.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: For me, I just think Puka, what he's been doing consistently,
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: game in and game out, has been.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Electric and it's good for football.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: Especially on the other side, Jason Jayson's talent enough, just
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: him being shut down in the whole first half, nothing
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: happening second half, what he was able to do and
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: really will his team back into this game with Sam
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Darnold throwing him the ball just looks like great football
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: all around. This is a great divisional matchup. The playoffs
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: is going to be electric. I just can't wait for
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: it to get into the full fold of things, especially
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: with them probably having to play the Bears and just
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: seeing what the both all these offenses can do to
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: one another, because I forgot who I was talking to
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: when they were like, oh, it was Damien.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: He was like should I start?
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford like, bro, it don't matter, like he's this
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: game's going to be a shootout, bro, And dude, boy
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: was it.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to see each other again. I
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: think this could be.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Going for the absolute balls were going for two.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, okay, if they didn't go for two
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: on that last one they were they were worse if
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: they tied, like they were worse off at the time.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Like you still risk you don't get that you lose. Yeah,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: it's like I.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Mean, but either way, if you kick the extra point,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the Rams could literally run the clock out with just
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: one first down because they didn't have one one time
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: out left. They could run the clock out with the tie,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: and they keep the one seed over everybody else because
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: they have true less loss.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Do you remember when it was the Chargers and Raiders
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: and all they had to do was run, Oh yeah.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: And then both of them they both would have just tied.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: They both would have made the playoffs.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: And then the Raiders I forgot who it was the
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: time he timed out the ball and then like they
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: got stopped and the Chargers winning scored or won the
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: game when the Raiders were eliminated from the playoffs, like.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: The Raiders, the Raiders won that game.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Phil the Raiders did win.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: It was a race, so it was the other way they.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because because Derek Carr, he talks about it. Derek
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Carr was like it was like that's his favorite moment
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: in the NFL, like like in his career.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Because he was literally just ran the ball out.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: They would have won. The kneeled the ball out, they
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: would have won the game. Yeah, I mean they would
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: have tied and they both Yeah.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if the Raiders just just let it end in
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: a tie. But literally Derek Carr, like if you watch
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: the clip, he like smirks and he goes time out
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: to go kick a field goal and win the fucking game.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Well, no opportunity.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Know the Chargers, they had the opportunity to think coach,
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: and they didn't. So they gave the ball back to
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: the Razors.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Going to go and score.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: You know, yeah, they they all they had to do
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: was kneel the ball out and they both would have
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: made it.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: M man, that situation situations, I.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Mean, if I if I was the Rams knowing that
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: information beforehand, I would have gone for to either way
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: like that. That's just me thinking your offense wasn't getting suck. No, No,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I meant the Rams because if you get thirty eight,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: if you get thirty eight either way, Seattle they would
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: try to go for two.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Like this was yeah, like a situation.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Seattle was going for two either way. So
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: the Rams they could have put themselves in a situation
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: where they go for two even if they do miss it. Yes,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: you try to trust your defense, but if you get
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the two, then it's a tie and you keep the
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: one seed and you have one less loss in them.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: So I feel like that's a toss up because like
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I get that argument. But then on the other is,
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: if you don't get that two point conversion, if they score,
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: they don't have to go for two. They could just kick.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: So it's really just do you trust your offense more
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: or your defense more?
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: And I mean who would you trusted more in the
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter?
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: And you probably should have trusted your offense more, but
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: the Rams, ah, because the Rams defense is really good.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Like I I think that that two.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Point conversion was uh was questionable, like very it was.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: It was so confusing. So like my whole argument was
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: they blew it dead. Like they blew it dead, replay
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: it down, replay it down. They blew it dead, and
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: they didn't, And I like, if I'm not mistaken, that's
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: this is the first time I've like I've ever seen
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: it ever ever, And I don't know, I don't know
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: exactly what the rules are on two point conversions and
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, but like in my mind, I always
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: thought that if if the play was blown dead, it's
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: it's and it was a mistake, it's replay of down,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: like that's it.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: See that's what I thought.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Too, because he blew the whistle as he went to grab.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: The ball, so I guess, like they said, like simultaneously
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: like he was grabbing the ball was blown. But I
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: don't know, it was real, really fishy. But even at
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: that Ramse either way, they were still up. And I'm
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: just saying, yeah, the Seattle defense stepped up in the
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter whenever it mattered the most.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: It's nick em and Wari, the guy I was hyping
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: up in the draft. I was saying, he was their
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: neck and neck with Stark, and what did he do? Dude?
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: He got injured in this game, came back and went
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: absolutely insane for it was just.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say this. If Seattle they keep the
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: one seed and it goes through goes through Seattle throughout
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: the NFC, this is the one place you do not
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: want to play at. This is the one place you
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: do not want to play at. So even though Sam Darnold,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: he is very turnover prone, and like you are saying,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: it's it's a government mandated two interceptions for him and
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: big time playoff games like no matter, no matter what
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: it is, he's gonna have an interception. But this team
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: is just so damn talented it's not gonna matter in
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: all honesty. And I think this is another named Clint Kubiak
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: potentially to Baltimore. I know we talked about it earlier,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: but he's playing himself into another head or into a
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: head coaching job. And I'm just saying, Seattle, if you
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: would have told me before the year Seattle was a
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender in the number one seed sixteen weeks
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: until the season, I would have thought like you were
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: smoking crack or something. But what, oh, you know what,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get to it right here. This
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: has been happening for a three weeks straight on a
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: three game win streak right here, in which we found
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: the pattern before the pod. Whenever the Chiefs and the
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Cowboys lose, this means the Saints are going to win
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: the ballgame in which the Saints they do win twenty
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: nine to six in this game, breckon your weekly ran
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: about the Saints starts.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: Now we're getting shuck tonight, getting shut tonight. We're getting
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: shut tonight. What Tyler Shuck do? But absolute ball out.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Granted it's the Jet. We all know that the Josh
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: hates the Jets and their bums, But what did Tyler
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Shuck do? He absolutely bought out fifty I just hate you,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: thank you fifty drop backs a touchdown three hundred yards.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Taysom Hill actually did something in this game which is insane.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: I think this may be his last home game. I
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: don't know if you guys seen him crying in the presser.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Looks like ham Jordan, this may be his last close.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: I just I just hills out of there. I literally
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: one of my least favorite players of all time.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Josh hates Taysom Hill, but why Taysom Hill out of
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: all players?
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: Like he's such a random bro. No, bro, don't I
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: think they waste He's.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Debatable Hall of Famer? Wait what only player? Only player
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: in Super Bowl history with a thousand receiving, one thousand
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: rushing and thousand passing yards.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: So since guys Bryant has a thousand more receiving yards
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: and forty four more touchdowns on twenty less catches, does
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: that make him a Hall of Famer over Michael Thomas.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: No, okay, but as I was saying, as I was saying,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Taysom Hill play like I feel like a lot of
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: these guys. The reason why the Saints dominated the Jets
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: aren't just because they're a dogshit, horrible franchise and you know,
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: the Black and Gold knows how to show out. But
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: it also has a lot to do with the fact
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: that a lot of our older players this is probably
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: their last home game and they're they're going out with
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: the band. Cam Jordan got a sack, the Mario Davis
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: played very good. Taysom Hill played good. I mean, you
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: just love to see it. I felt like it was
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a farewell tour. We couldn't run
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: the ball at all. Didn't matter because who do we
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: have Olave Olave Olave went absolutely nuclear. I have him
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: in every single fantasy league because of course he's one
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: of the most underrated receivers in the NFL. Wearing the
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: black and gold. Absolutely balled out ten catches, one hundred
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: and fifty yards, two touchdowns. Everybody hates on him because
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: he doesn't get one hundred yards, but he gets fucking
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: ninety nine every other week. And Juwan Johnson absolutely balled out,
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: had some amazing catches, just fingertip grabs, and like, just
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: this this young team. Yonah Sinker played great, Alonte Taylor
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: played great, Kool Aid played great, Justin Reid has been
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: playing great, and I just I love seeing us end
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: on a on a high note. Yes, there's gonna be
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: the fans out there being like, we should be losing
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: these games. So we have a top three pick at
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: this point of the year. I don't care about that
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: because I don't want a quarterback. I want to stay
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: with Schuck for one more season. And in that top
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: we're still gonna end up getting like a top five,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: top six pick. You know, we'll end up seeing We're
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: probably gonna end up beating the Falcons and give the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Rams an even better pick. And and yeah, so we're gonna
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: end up with that top five, top six pick, and
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: we're either gonna end up with with an amazing player
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: like like Ruben bay or or rvil Reese or even
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: we can we can fucking around get a receiver. We
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: can we can get a safety. There's a great safety
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: in this class. We have so many options. And I
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: love the fact that we almost played our ourselves out
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: of of taking a quarterback here in this upcoming draft.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: And keep winning. That's all I asked you. I'll just
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: keep winning.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, brother, of course, and and I mean
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: for me, of course. Hopefully the Chiefs end up with
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: a better pick than the the Saints. Is it even possible, hey.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Last time that we had a better pick than in
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: the New Orleans says.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: My gosh, that's actually you're not wrong at all about that.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: It's so annoying. Actually, I don't think it is possible, Josh.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: You have six wins.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, every week you say this, every every
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: time I talk about this, just getting a higher draft pick.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: He's like, I don't think that's possible.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: The Chiefs are literally like the twelfth pick with six wins,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: and they only have one less loss, one less win than.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Us, and now the Chiefs is looking rough.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't realize how I guess in my mind,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: I thought the Chiefs won more games. It's like the twelve.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: What's the twelve?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: That's the twelve pick.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: You gotta think like, ah, they're like a middle of
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: the road team. The fact that we're a top five
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: pick and we're five and ten and you're a twelve
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: pick a time there's a one game difference that's insane.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, the Chiefs might end up with a
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: top five.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: Pick and it's gonna be Oh honestly, that changes a lot.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: It won't be Jeremiah.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: I only want Love.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: It won't be I.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, he won't do it. I know he won't.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: But you guys, you guys can end up with like
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: a Ruben Rain and rvil Reese.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: You think I care about need reckon.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: This conversation you get with the with the with the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Jordan Tyson.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Who want to need a wide receiver?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: I don't care what we It's about what Josh want.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: It's not about okay okay, or you guys could trade
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: back to like the tenie take Jeremiah Love they won't
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: trade back.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Beach One are never gonna draft this high again.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: I mean they might if they want to love up
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: on future draft picks.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think they will. I don't no chance
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: in the Mahomes era. You're gonna have to again. You're
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: gonna cash in on a guy with all the potential
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: and prospect. It's gonna be a defensive end, dude.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, somehow, if somehow, either Areville defensive I forget his name,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Say to defensive tackle.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: In my mind, they were where we're at. Jeremiah loves
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: really realistic.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's realistic, like ten to like eighteen.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: We have the eight pick.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: Now, you know what, We're tied with so many people
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: who for some reason, I can see the Saints Jack.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I could see that.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: I could see that.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I could see that.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: I could see, dude, and our own line is built
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: for run blocking.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I think did I want him to the Saints
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: On the last two draft line healthy Calvin Banks and
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck Kelvin.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Banks, Tyler Shuck uh Tiaosu Fuaga czar Ruiz, who I
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: know hasn't been great, but he's really good at run blocking,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: not past walking. And then Eric McCoy the debatable top
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: three center in the NFL, and then we got rid
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: of Penning. So I forget who our left tack or
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: left guard is. I know, will claps on the on
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: the roster, but shut out with clap, shout out, will clap.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: But okay, I think this might be the last game
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: which we could talk about.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Right hey, Josh, I think that the best you guys
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: talk about.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Mother shucker, I don't get to talk about.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: The best picking the Chiefs can get is the is
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: the eight seed, is the swap with the Saints.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: That's perfectly fine with me.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm not expecting the number one pick.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: I just want to pick.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like at the eight pick you could take
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: At the eight pick, you could take Love.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think at the eight pick they'll take Love.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I feel like, dude, if.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: I've been raining or Marvel Reese is available, I don't
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: think there's.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: I don't the way they're available. I think that they're like.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Debated takes moving above Jordan Tyson.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: I will say that you are right on that breckon
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: like he is moving way above Jordan Tyson right now,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: in draft boards.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: It's looking realistic. The Giants take carnal tape because me and.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Brecon have We're talking about it a couple of weeks
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: ago about who would be the number one receiver. But
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: then I've been like doing more research and it's Cardinal
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: tapro carneal Tate's.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: You think Mendoza goes over uh Dante More?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I think Dante Moore looks looks like he's gonna be
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the number one pick right now.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: I I I love, I'm right.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I think men now by the end of everything, by
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: the end of everything, but I'm not. I'm just gonna
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: be right now. Everyone's ranking Dante Moore still.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: But I was orgon not in a pro style. I
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: think they gonna be shipped like Texas.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: I want, but I want Mendoza.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: It's the same thing I want fall to Los Angeles, Like,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: what are we talking about?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Dante Moore is going first? Okay, guys first.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: By April, Mendoz is gonna be.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Let's hope he doesn't for the sake of his career.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Let's hope he keeps falling.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: He will, He's gonna go. He's gonna go number one.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe they'll do the tim Tebow out and say he's
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: too nice.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: Maybe they'll say he's too much of a good guy.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: You know what, I can totally see that being a narrative,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 7: bro I could as of right now, it goes, it
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 7: goes Giants, Raiders, Browns, Jets, Giants aren't taking a quarterback.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: I think Giants trade back though, and they they trade Rain.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Giants draft and Rain just Adam to the because their
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: entire year.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: I know, That's what That's what I was just thinking.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's like they don't need a defense or
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: they don't really need a defensive line they need they.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Could get Spencer uh Utah.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: They just draft Caleb Downs.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: They could they could trade back to the back to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: the ten.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: Do you think they would to just create the best
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: safety tenement the entire NFL?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: But they wouldn't take Caleb Downs at the one?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: No, he's talking about trade him back.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did draft Caleb Downs. I think they.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Raiders and Giants play each other next week,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: so so it's gonna determine the.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: Number one overall number one the Raiders. The Raiders.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: That's the thing though, Like, yeah, I don't think even
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: if they win.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because even at the two pick, like because because
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: then it would just be Raiders Giants, you consider taking
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: wide receiver?
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you trade back, There's no way you don't,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: they would saying.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, in general, do you think they consider
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: just taking wide receiver?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I think the Giants they du without Malik Neighbor's status,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: I think they do.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think they do because Wandell has been doing
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: so good.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's on a blue ship prospect. Yeah, you
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: wouldn't pass up on that.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I would say this like as far as like it'd
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: be Spencer fanu Utah tackle and then like if you
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: trade back, and then I'd say one of the two
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: wide receivers, like like maybe you trade with the Jets
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: who had first round picks. I don't.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: I don't you get the tackle class I don't compare
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: to last year was so much.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, last year's tackle class was was damn good.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't think.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: Even even the guy out of it. I mean, I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: of course I want to. I want to look more
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: into it once it's closer to draft season. But like
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: you're telling me a tackle out of Utah, I mean
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: you want to look into it, right, But.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, for sure, But all right, go ahead
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: and give your mother shucker rant here, Josh, I already
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: know it's it's time for you. Josh.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: I just want to say, I remember breaking just hating
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: so much on Tyler Duck so so much, not believing
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: in the man. And he's still kind of hesitating because
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: he doesn't know what a good quarterback looks like when
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: he falls right into their laps. But I will say, dude,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: he makes sense. He he throws the ball a lot.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: But I do think that he has a lot of potential.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: I know he's older, he may not have a lot
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: more room to grow, but I just didn't getting more
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: comfortable in another year, especially unyeth the Kellen Moore system.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: I do think that he can continue to improve. Look
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: at what he's doing with Olave bro. This is back
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: to back games where he's actually got him very involved,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: and Olave looks a lot more comfortable than he has
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: in the past couple of years playing with Tyler Schuck,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: and I think what it does also Tyler Schuk being
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: able to make plays with his legs and move around
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: a lot more than the other quarterbacks are accustomed to
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: plus making throws has opened up this offense quite a
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: bit more. And I understand like I'm saying that, I mean,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: I do think his his performance against the Gants Jets
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: is more reasonable than Trevor Lawrence's performance against the Jets,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: because I mean, the Jets says just suck.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: So but I.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Will say right now, yeah they're not their weight class.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I do like Tyler Shuck, especially having a
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: Dynasty and starting him against Breca next week in the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: Dynasty Football Playoffs is going to be amazing.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: And he's got dude, he's got such a good match.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: But that's a b.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: Out of spite the first time we played in the
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: regular season. Watch he's gonna go off against you and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: regulars like, no, he's not drops twenty three this week,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: she's gonna drop thirty five.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: So and then you just have to shut it afterwards.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Shuck it, shuck it, just shuck it. I will say
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: where I'm at with Tyler Shuck. I still think that
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: we should have Tooken Shador over him, because that's that
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: was really my gripe was I wish that we took
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: Shador instead Fanning Fan that duo you see you see
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: fucking broke his pinky.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pinky was.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: Pinky was like torn in half. Bro There you go.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: That's all you need, that's all you need.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Hold the peaks.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: But my thing with Shuck is, I like, I am
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: a lot more hopeful now, but of course I'm I'm
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: very realistic. I'm not all phones aware. I'm Icarus flying
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: as close to the sun as I can. I I
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: like to, you know, sit back and analyze and be like, Okay,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: let's let's see this some more. I want to give
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: him another year. Like I said, I think he can
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: end up being a franchise guy. But Shuck throws fucking
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: gas bro just straight gas. And I want to see
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: him develop some touch on the ball. And I feel
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: like why I'm hesitant is because he is twenty six
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: years old as a rookie, and that's.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: That's like what Brett farvadad.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Just let it rip.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Just let that fucker let that fucker sling. That's that's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: really that's really my my only left that shuck Er swing.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: That's my only gripe with with Shuck is like I
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: want to see him develop some touch. But other than that,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: like he's looked he's looked apart and then even like
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: I like Spencer Rattler still like, like I want Shuck
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: to start, obviously, but I like Spencer Ratler as a backup.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 8: Bro, give it up, let it go, Okay, confidence confident,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: You've been waiting for this, You've been waiting for this, Like,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: what are you like?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: What do you want?
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: He's literally I'm saying I already.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: I'm saying I like him as a backup. That's what
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: I'm saying is I love Spencer Ratler as a backup.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, but convidence level with Tyler Shuck moving forward one
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: through ten.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: To be honest, like a nine.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: So you are bought in? You are body?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm bought in with Shuck. I want to
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: I want That's what I'm saying is I want to
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: see him. I want us to draft a receiver this year.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: I want us to to help out the O line.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: I want us to get a running back this year.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: An address defense or offense this year.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: We have so many young guys on defense that are
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: that you guys think secondary, our secondary, I feel our
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: secondary is good. M Jonas Sanker, Alonte Taylor, Justin Reid.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: The defense will be fine his number. Y'alls have the
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: number six pick. Let's say the number six, number seven pick.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: Like, let's say y'all have that, Okay.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: Caleb Downs, Carneal, Tate, marl are all sitting right there.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Who are you taking?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Arvil Reese is there?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: Arvel Reese is there? I'm taking Arvill Reese he wants
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be there.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: There's no way to Okay, Carnel, Tate or or Downs?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Who do you want?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: M I know who I'm podium.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: I would I would, I would want Downs, but I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: would completely understand taking Tate.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all about to say I would take Tate just
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: to see how much shun.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: I don't hate the prospect over like risking, like like
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: a for sure like.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: Here's what I would love for the same thing.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: To Down is more or like NFL.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: Ready, dude, he would have he would have been a
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: top five pick for the last two years.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: But Carnel Ta I mean, but Caleb Downs has been
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: consistently his whole I'm talking about.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: He's that guy.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be a prospect where he might not have
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: the upside like crazy, but he's a for sure guy.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: In the NFL.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: That's gonna pretty like he's just Romo Donda.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: I so in my dream world, what happens like he's
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: legit just rom Like in my.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: Dream world, what happens is we take a Caleb downs
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: a the defensive tackle from Clemsons or Ruben baynor ll
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: Rees if they somehow fall or even I would I
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: would want to address defense in that in that top
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: ten pick because there's so many good players in that
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: top ten on defense, and then hopefully trade back up
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: into the first to get like a Malack High Lemon.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Saint Brown, some that Samson Nikua.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: I can't I can't think of the guy Samson Kou
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: is on a crazy run for the wrong reason. But
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: that Bama wide receiver, that Bama wide receiver, I can't
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: think of his name. It starts with the G.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: But I'm just kidding. I don't know.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: I don't even know his name. I saw him play
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: against Ou.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: And there's Don There's there's Denzel Boston who's like upside guy.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a Reckon loves Malick.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: I do really like Malak.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Jeremy Bernard, thank you as twelve, Yeah, thanks Ryan, And
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: I want to I mean I guess I want to
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: thank you.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: Dude. You know who would be sick? Is that a
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: receiver out of A and M Casey conception or whatever?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: The little the little guy that's fucking quick.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Oh he just wants to drive Andy Isabella, Like, come on, bro, No, he's.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: Actually pretty good. He's not a little little.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: He's like he's like some moments, he's like.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Five ten, five eleven. He's not like tiny.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Hey me and we are none of us are that high.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: So, bro, if if we can get Jacoby Lane, if
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: we could get Jacoby Lane later in the draft, Nick
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: Harbor like a second round pick.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: Nick Carver, Oh man a Skyler Bell, the Saints are
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: good in the first round. Bro up the ranks and then.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: Is he even going in this class? Is he even
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: draft eligible?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I thought he is? Yeah?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: Is it third?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Has it been?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: Has it been three?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: Is he coming out?
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: He was class athletic file is gonna be so insane.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: He's gonna go in the first round.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: Bro, like it's he's I just see a Saints ridden
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: all over it, bro, all over it. Bro.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: I don't trust Nick Harber, Oh I don't.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah he is. He's gonna declare I'm telling you,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, he's done literally almost nothing. No, but
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at a guy profile.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: He's gonna he's gonna like get close to the forty
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: yard dash record.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: He's gonna jump out of the building.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: You know who I would love for us to draft
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: the drills and he's gonna get drafted in the first round.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: You know who I would love for us to draft
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: at receiver is a Skylar Bell out of Connecticut Huskies.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Bro just sounds like a sky More at pic Bro.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no no no. This guy,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: this guy he had one thousand yards last year. He
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: has thirteen hundred this year with fifteen touchdowns. Like like
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: he he looks good and his rut running is is nasty.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: I like him to test out draft can test out
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: on He tests out in the top ninety two percentile
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: and route running. Ah. You know what he sounds like.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: I would like him or Jacoby Lane Bro like in
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: a second or third round pick. If that's if I
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: can't get Lemons, that's if I can't get Lemons. I
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: want Lemons.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Though.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: Hey, as much as I want to talk draft, I
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: think we're probably staying a little too far.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: In.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: No, we're not.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: No, we're not No, we're not Saints.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: But okay, is there any other games y'all want to
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: go over before?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: No? Not really, I thought I think that's kind of it.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess Steelers, well, just Steelers and Steelers.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin still hasn't a season nineteen is probably.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: Not going to be fired because they made the playoffs.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Oh no, why would you fire him?
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: Oh well, there's there's been talks, you know.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: No, right now, Okay, I'm gonna go now, I'm gonna
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: gohea and share my screen because the next two things
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: we're gonna need. Let's go in and talk about this
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: very quickly. I know you brought it up right here.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: MVP odds as of right now, I don't know why. Okay,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: this is as of December twenty third, right, literal exact.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, Josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, the top four,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: which that's all really that matters right now. So Matt
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Stafford minus two fifteen, Drake Mate is plus one seventy five.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: So it's a that's honestly a big favorite, right there.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: So Okay, there's four that going to the MVP ballot,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: who would be y'alls four as of I think today.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: I'm like, as a side note, Christian McCaffrey needs to
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: be higher.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: I think he's Offensive Player of the Year material now
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, like Hight like why is Jalen above him?
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: Why is love above quarter back? Like I I just
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know. But my two guys, I'm sticking with
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: the one and the two that are the one in
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: the two? Yeah, me too.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: I think I think it's gonna come down how the
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: season ends with Drake may and Matthew Stafford.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Like I think who's gonna get the number one?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: You don't think it's already locked up?
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: I think it's locked up. I think it's let's.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: Say that, let's say the Rams lose another game and
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: the and the Patriots went out and get the ones.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like hypothetical.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like Drake mayn year two wins out first seed
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: in the AFC as compared to Stafford, who would be
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: like the third or fourth seed card.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: Let me see they play with.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: Let me see. I'm just saying the fifth seed.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: And Patriots are the first.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: They they the first this that they could drop it.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: Six the furthest but they get they could easily jump. Yeah,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: it's gonna it could come down to strength the schedule.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna like a Common Conference conference wins strength
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: the schedule. It's gonna get real clunky, That's what it's
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: gonna get down to. NFC. It's it's a lot clearer.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: It's a lot clearer. But yeah, no, I think Matt
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Stafford has it locked up. Like Drake May would have
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: to have like against Green Bay, like six touchdowns and
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: like where.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Would matthis stat in their mind?
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers better old Matt Ryan is pretty old when
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: they won their Super Bowl, when they win their m
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: v ps, was pretty old.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: Are like the youngest m v P.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: It probably might be Brady was for only one his MVP.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying now, I'm not saying younger.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the oldest. I think Mahomes was not.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Drake May. I think is younger than Mahomes when he
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: won MVP.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: Drake May is the second youngest player in the NFL
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Mahomes it was the second year too, or first real
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: year starting.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but Mahomes came in older. Drake Drake May got
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: drafted when he was like he just turned I don't
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: even know if he was twenty one. He may have
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: been twenty.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: When he got to educated on Drake May's age.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, let me see Drake.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: I will say I'm horrible. I'm horrible.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 7: Three age, yeah, yeah, ages and injuries.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: Bro Recon does not know anything about injuries or age.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: Dude, like, I'm very bad.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Snap his leg and be like, oh, he'll be out
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: two weeks. It's not that bad.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Twenty three, twenty three weeks.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just gonna have to come down to days.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: What's the day difference?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: No, mahomes second youngest, second youngest, Okay, never mind, it's not.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: I mean Dan Reno was in his rookie year, so like,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't think there's.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: No better than him.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: You made me choking my saliva. No, I would keep
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: the MVPs. Okay, I would keep the top two. How
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: they are? Who would be the three?
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen? I think it's easily Josh Allen, Josh Allen
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: the fourth. That's where it gets tricky. Justin Herbert. They
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: could end up being the number two seed if they
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: beat the Broncos or or Trevor Lawrence gets the one seed.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's a lock in.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: For say Sam Donald gets the one seed.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald's odds, it's.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: For six thousand, he's the seven thousand.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: He's a seventh, like I don't think, but like plus one.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: Like he ain't been counted out before, Like he hain't
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: been counted out before.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a four thousand.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: He's like the different between Trevor. There's no way he
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: moves up. There's no way he moves all the way.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just being a troll, But.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: I think honestly it's it kind of stays like this
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: with fluctuation between Trevor Lawrence and Justin Herbert.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly or crazy it sounds kalob if they get
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: the if they get the top two seed is to.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: Be honest with Drake May, Like if Drake May secures
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: the one seed second, why.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: Why not t law over Josh Allen.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen's moments have been bigger. I feel like there's more.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: I know you're gonna say the five touchdown. I just
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: think Josh Allen and they look at the array of
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: team around him, and what he's doing. I know you're
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: gonna say James Cook, but like I, and the name
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: value also holds.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: I mean you could also argue, like Bann for best game,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen did also drop six touchdowns against a better
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: opponent in the Bucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: I get that, like I.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: And then plus he could still win the one seed,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: like he is still in the race for the one
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: seed right now.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: It could make fish It could make real fishy if
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen ends up with the one seed, like I
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: think he could sneak his way into the top two. Yeah,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: that's what bro even if Trevor Lawrence gives.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: Standpoint at the roster, standpoint between the two and could
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: with Josh Allen's having gonna work with and if he
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: secures the one seed, it's really realistic to that when.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: He he is eleventh in passing.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: Yards and imagine Josh Allen pukakua freak seed.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: He only has two hundred and fifty rush yard, which
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: is actually less than Justin Herbert. I didn't even realize that.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: And t Law's got two forty, so he's right there.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, like has rushing attempts inside the five and Bijon.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: So I'm just saying, I don't know that was a
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: stat but and you know, you know when Tila was
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 6: actually being very productive that year when they made the playoffs,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: he was actually led the league in like I think,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: within ten yard rushes at the end zone.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: Hey, no one knows how to do it. I knew that.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: I drafted him the next year in redraft thinking I'm like, oh,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: he's he's gonna get rushing out again.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: Do Jack crap?
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: Why not Herbert above Allen. I'm just I'm just for entertainment. Entertainment.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: Herbert broke his hand, broke his hand has been absolutely
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: balling out, Like.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't think so, I just think I
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: just think the top three are two set in stone
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: all He's consistent MVP case throughout the entire year.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: I think it's he's there, like like the NFL can't
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: get his dick out of their mouth. They're like, he's
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: always got to be in the MVP conversation. And I
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: love Josh Allen. I think he's probably one of the
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: greatest humans in the NFL. He's such a great guy.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: Like genuinely, I'm just saying, like I think he like
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: like he's debatable Walter Payton Man of the Year, like
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: he is, Like I love what Josh Allen is and
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: like the kind.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Of person is in the conversations.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, why isn't Tyler shuck up there? But
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: like I feel like, what, like there's there's nothing separating Like, Okay,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford, Drake may or the clear top two, but
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: then the next three there's almost nothing separating these guys.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, I would I would give a better
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: case to Justin Herbert, to Josh Allen then Trevor, because
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Trevor it's been up and down, Like I get your
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert point, but it's just like you're saying, does
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: go into it, but down at the beginning of the year, Like.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like you see Josh Allen's down. He's like
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: barely thrown for one hundred yards I know, but in
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: multiple interceptions, like even just this last week against a
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: shit opponent, remember who they've.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: Done good the Browns defenses is a damn good opponent.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah they're they're good, they're good, but like you you
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: had what one hundred and twenty yards an interception and
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: then James like I've said James Cook is good and
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: he's like he's got to be up there for rushing yards.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's he might be in the lead
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: now over Jonathan Taylor.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: Like that's you got the leading rusher in the backfield.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: And that was the argument on why Lamar lost it
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: last year was because he had Derrick Henry. I mean,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: like te Law, te Law, yes you have BTJ. Right,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: he's been a nothing burger this year, an absolute nothing burger.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: You really can't make that argument. Te Law has been
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: been slinging.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: It with Zoby Myers.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he has Jacoby Myers now on to the offense,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: and and Parker Washington, like I feel like, and then
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: with Justin Herbert, the only argument is like, oh he's
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: got he's got Lad, but Ladd hasn't been as good
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: as he's been in the past. I think I think
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, I feel like it's a flip flop between
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: te Law and Josh Allen, and then it's Herbert.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: Kind of has Herbert has behind it? I can't give you, like,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: I just can't can't.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Give me a reason.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: Herbert does have a lot of turnovers. I think third
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: in the NFL and turnovers.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: I can't give you a definitive reason on why Josh
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Allen is clearly third, but I just know Josh Allen's
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: clearly third. Like I just can't like in LA, I
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: think t law Is takes the Jaguars to another level.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: But I think if you give another quarterback to the Jaguars,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: they would still be in the wild card hunt. I
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: think if you take if you take off the Bills,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: they're fighting for the number one pick.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: I I get that, I get that, but.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: That's my argument.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: I I don't hardly believe that, and that's a big hypothetical,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: but I wholeheartedly believe that Josh Allen means more of
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: the Bills than Trevor Lawrence does the Jaguars. The Jaguars
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: would still have the defense and the Jaguars will still
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: have the outside weapons.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: And it's sad that Dak's not going to be in
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: this conversation.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Why I gotta make this sad, bro, Like I'm just
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: why why turn team down?
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: Bro? Oh? But but like talking about it, it's it's
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: for sure. Matthew Stafford like if he doesn't win it,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: he gets Rot's collapse.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: It have to be an ultimate collapse.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: It would have to be more. I'm looking at their
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: stats now. I'm looking at their stats now, Josh Allen,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: I'm close. Josh Allen has forty three touchdowns, five interceptions,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: forty five hundred yards. Now he's got two more games
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: compared to Drake May who did ball out.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: Damn good.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: He's got forty two hundred yards but only twenty six
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: touchdowns in eight interceptions. Yeah, it's forty.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen has forty five total yards or forty touchdowns.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: No, forty five hundred like for forty five passing yards. Dude,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: So he could break five thousand passing yards this season.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: I mean I thought, technically, I thought, yeah's the league
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: in passing. I guess not. I guess Oh that was
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: before that was before this week. That was before this Yeah,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: I mean non break five thousand passing yards for over
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: fifty touchdowns, which is duable by Josh Allen, and he
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: could get the number one seed and wouldn't be the
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: m v P.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: And with only five interceptions.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: No, I feel like he's gonna get the m v P.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: And then you're gonna make that Stafford. He's talking about Stafford.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: He's saying Josh Allen. That's what he's meaning. He's talking
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: about Stafford. Oh, because Brecken said Josh Allen when he
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: I think he's talking Stafford.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Oh did I that was? That was a complete I
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: meant to say. I meant to say Stafford. If I
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: did say Josh.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean? How do you not
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: mean that, Josh.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, Josh Allen only has thirty five hundred yards
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: twenty five touchdown I'm.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Like, that sounds like Stafford stats. I I thought you
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: kind of caught onto that too, But yeah, no, no.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: It it have to be.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: I got totally confused right there.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I didn't think Josh Alla was having that
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: good of a season, But dude, why isn't.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: He the m v P. No, No, no, no, no, no, yeah,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: it's it's Stafford's for sure.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: There's no way Staffords to lose.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: You remember whenever you were arguing with me, Josh that
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: I think, Josh, didn't we make a bet?
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: Didn't we make a makeup?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: It?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: Y'all did make a be Well?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: What was it?
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: Was it?
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: Like? Money?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: Was it? I think it was money and some other
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: steaks and money with.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: My might have to go back and which episode.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the stakes we would the stakes be.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: It was something I don't remember either, bro.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: Because I'll have to go back. I have to go
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: back through there. I think I remember exactly which one
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I said Mahomes would finish ahead of him in
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: MVP voting.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: You did, sorry.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: Died and the Chiefs suck.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: Even if even if he didn't die, I don't think
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: it really mattered.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: No, it would have mattered.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to find it right now.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: It was. I feel like it was definitely Allan because
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: we went in.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was Mahomes because Fonso was like, dang, you
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: really made him. Let him get you on Mahomes even
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: though the argument was Alan.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: Oh then I mean either way I won, it doesn't matter.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: Of course it at I think we got to do
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: this later, like yeah, yeah, I was trying to. I
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: was trying to find it really quick because I found
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: the episode. I found the episode and I found like
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: the exact spot, but okay, very quickly building a wide
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: receiver once again.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Make a row wide receiver this time, break and don't make.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: He didn't get rage, bated, he didn't get rage maated
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: that was the biggest thing.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: So I got podcast, I got four on the line
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: this Sunday, as happy as I could be.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, So, according to Chad GBT, the six main traits
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: for wide receiver route running hands and I you they
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: meant as far as like being able to like see
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: coverage and like find the spots. Like I had to
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: break it down. It sounded weird. It sounded weird how
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: they broke it down. Athleticism, toughness, and yack. So I
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: know kind of some of these they kind of like
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: mixed with each other, but we're we're just gonna go
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: with it's a little different, a little different, Like it's
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: kind of picking here.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: Athleticism and toughness. Yeah, I remember we had that debate
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: with with.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: But he's not tough.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: Mmmm, that's I know, right, Is that tough?
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: Is that tough? I don't know that's tough.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: No, But okay, to be honest, it's because he called
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: him by his first name, That's all it was. He
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: called him by his government name. Yeah, and then what's
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: his middle name? Something? Be careful, Josh, I don't want
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: you to get punched now. But but.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: He probably already has this on the right.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, Joshua Brecon, who's going first in this one?
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: We let Josh go first. We're going order.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll just keep it in order again. Okay, do
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: y'all want to make it active active? And can it
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: be anybody on the wide receiver roster injured? Yeah, Andrew
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: did that with the quarterback. No, uh, injured or no? Okay, okay,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just making sure we're having the best wide receiver. Yes, okay,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: Josh your first pick is from the Seattle Seahawks.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, bro I already of course, this guyzes
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: his hands route running respect like makes makes sense.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, Reckon, you are next right here.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: Let's see all right? I thought I got on and wrong.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: Thank god you guys didn't talk about injuries. Garrett Wilson,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: he does have to.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: Can we change it?
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: What do you want? What do you want? What do
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: you want?
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: I think I think I might take Garrett Wilson's hands.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna take Garrett Wilson's hand y.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: That's solid. I would have went the same thing.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: Makes some crazy catches.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Let's see what I get here. The Lions, the.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: Jets, the Jets.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: You can't take Garrett Wilson. You can't. I already took him.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: I already took him.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, we can't take the same person.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: No, I'm playing. I don't know how those rules were.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: I'm perfectly fine not doing that. I'm perfectly fine.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: Let's not take the same player. Okay, I want to.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: I want to spice it up.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: Let's eliminate the player.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: But there there are some good guys. There's some good
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: guys still. They got to They got two guys that
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: I like that are young bucks.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, I actually know Jets wide receivers. Thank you Breckon
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: for clarifying.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we found out Brecon didn't the other day.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: No, I actually did. If anyone's listening and they listened
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: to last part where blank where I blanked on Jets
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: wide receivers. Afterwards, I was so pissed at myself because
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: I have multiple like I have. I have Arian Smith
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: on my dynasty.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: I was like when he didn't name Arian Smith, I
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: was like, this fool, don't know ball.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: What I want the dynasty. He texted me, He was like,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: why the hell, how do you know?
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, Okay, am I kind of junior if I
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: take like John Matchie's toughness, because like he overcame cancer.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: That's not how it that's not that's not how it works.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, dude, I'm receiver overcame more than.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: I feel like you have an easy answer athleticism.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: Helping you with your answer, but you have an answer.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: I mean we're out running. He gets open. But like,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: unless I'm blanking on just like one thing in particular.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: You're you're literally just overthinking it.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: I think overthinking.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 4: He could he can go to two different spots and
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: you're just over here overthinking it.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: I'm taking ad and I misted, why.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: Did that take you so long? He's like, he's he's
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: one of the best separators, Like I would like check
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: down the box.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: I was trying to check down the box for everything.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Jerry Judy i Q, dude, Oh my gosh,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: that was Jerry Judy.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: I Q might be a Hall of Fame wote mm hmmm.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: He's he's gonna take.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: You gotta take or or or.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: There's another guy, Isaiah Bond.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, why is speed not on here?
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: Why not here?
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: That's what I was athleticism, I guess athleticism, but like
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: I've like that kind of.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: I should have been on there also.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: I feel like that kind of goes with toughness. Yeah no,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: no it doesn't because.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: I want to change it. Right now.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: We can add We can just add to it, add speed,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: and add add size.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me actually see how to work this Google doc.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you don't know. Just let that. Oh
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: there you go.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: It's a joke breaking all right, speed, give me Isaiah.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: Bond if I could spell speed.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: We're adding categories for you. Would you switch your answer?
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean no, I feel like, like still
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: he's literally one of the best separators in the NFL.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: I mean no, I don't think I would change mine either.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, okay, all right, breckon, who are you going
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: to get?
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: We are getting?
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, I feel like there's a perfect answer, right.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Bro, mean.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: That's a perfect answer. We just added a category.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: I know, but I don't like him. What size?
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: There we go, Bro, that worked out like totally in
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: your favor.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: Bro, Oh my gosh, I couldn't. I could have went
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: toughness for Mike Evans Steelers DK.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: I mean that'd be athleticism. No, let me just take
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: t K size. He is playing right.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: I mean we're not. We don't have injuries.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, well he is suspended. Yeah,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: that is true. You have who is that?
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: What the free bro?
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: I thought that was me.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: I thought it was for me, Jack.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: If you didn't take speed, you could have taken Thornton
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: for speed. He's pretty quick.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hm oh yeah, mm hmmm.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: I can't even name the white actually, oh no, no,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: who is the Yeah?
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: I have a yeah, I have a perfect one for you.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: You know what, I'll do IQ because he's Catholic.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: Shoot, Why am I going blank? I think Trey Tucker
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: would be pretty good too?
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: In YAK but.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: I don't like that. Oh no, there's probably your best bet.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's an easy answer here.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: Jack best Shyes, give me Jack best shot. Size bro, Really,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know, like, give me Taekwon Thorn. I mean
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: Deontay Thornton size. Dantey Thornton size is bigger.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: I was thinking title Lockett I Q. Honestly, that's what
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: I was thinking.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't think I was Yeah.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: I forgot that was Victorian.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Size is good I mean, no, that is a good
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: that is a good one. But I was thinking, like
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: just I Q, that would be like peak.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: Also, dude, he does have good route running, he does,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: but he is like he gets open. So what I
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: take is I Q like I feel like he gets open.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if that's I think I gotta
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: take a white guy there, give me, give me Nico,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: because because what if I get like a like a
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: Renfro route running.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: Bro imagine, I mean if you want to do like
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: five yard zig every single time, that's cool.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I think I will take I will
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: take Nico's route running.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: I mean even his yak. I feel like his yak.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: It's nice.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: That's not really like what I was thinking athleticism, but
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: I want a faster all.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: Thank god I took Isaiah Bond speed. Already.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: You're boxed, Jerry Judy hands Jerry jud I Q, Jerry Judy,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: I mean not.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: Gonna I would have been. That's not that bad, Jerry Judy.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: Cedric Tillman, Yeah, you're you're kind of right.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: I would rather have Cedric Tillman athleticism, but I.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: Think Jerry Judy is more athletic, really, No, he definitely
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: is more athletic.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: But okay, he's pretty fast to.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: Jack ability yack you you know what?
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: Freaking the other day?
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I hate this.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: Is the fourth string receiver.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: I was trying to think of the Yeah, like apparently
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: he's a Jets wide receiver according to one guy here.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 4: But oh man, Judy, I Q and I'll just keep
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: it Rris Campbell? Does he even still play for them?
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: On that?
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: Elijah Moore? Hold on? Is Elijah Moore still.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: On the Browns?
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: On the Browns? Years?
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: Dog? What is he at? What happened to Elijah Moore?
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: Fell off?
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: Tillman's toughness, like like.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: Just taking injured take yeah, why would you take that?
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: Bro?
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: Literally missed almost got fill in the draft because of injury.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this is terrible.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: Why did I help you? I should just let you
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've done that twice now?
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my bad, I'm stopping.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks man. I guess I'll just take Tillman's.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: Can we just take Harold Fanning the time? Brown?
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: I would much rather prefer I mean, Tillman doesn't have
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: bad hands. It's I'm gonna just go with one that's no.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: He's pretty good. Tillman's pretty solid.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: I felt like there was judy athleticism.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: I'm saving athleticism.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: You can't take Garrett Wilson or you gotta go with
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: John Matchie.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: Getting all out.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: He's still on the.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: Cut last week after after we recorded.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: Ah.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: That's why I couldn't name three, because he was in
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: my mind and I knew he was gonna cut. Shoot, Bro,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's an obvious one.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: You gotta do a Don Mitchell. Dude, you for real, bro,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: mm hmm. I don't know what I said. I said,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: John MITCHI.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: I mean his jack isn't bad, but like I'll telling you, hey, toughness,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: toughness overcame cancer. Bro.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, yeah, just give me toughness, Bron.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: I feel like you should have win athleticism.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: No, Bro, we'll get more.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: Write the correct time okay, all right, right, the correct time,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: write the correct time?
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: Correct to start pulling that one.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he did it right the first time that he
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: did it correctly.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good one.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: Falcons London, London would have been perfect for like hands or
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: like size.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And I can't really go with toughness because
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: I feel like he gets injured quite a bit.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: M hs, you know what, gim me gimme mooney speed.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, I.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: Was gimme Mooney's speed.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: Bro, Bro, my last three spins have been so atrocious. Bro,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: It's insane.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about going with London telling me, buddy,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: you're telling me adadn Mitchell, Cedric Tillman DK Mitchell.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: Is not bad though. At Mitchell is pretty athletic and
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: he gots cut it out running.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like Garrett Wilson, Oh.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: My toughness, toughness, you gotta go toughness.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: To take whatever you want.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: Really, I'm timpted for I feel like Jack is the
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: best because like recking Jack IQ, I mean athleticism. I'm
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: gonna just I feel like I'm overthinking this athleticisms there,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: but wait, I feel like I'm blanking right now.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: Dude, No way, like no, you had it correct.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just going yak and thank god
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: you didn't take his Dude, that was such a bad take.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: You should have took an athleticism or speed. He ran up.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: He literally broke the record for forty yard dash in
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: his pro day.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see I didn't know that at all. The giants.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, give me athleticism, elik neighbors.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: Oh dude, I feel like that's probably the best. I
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: feel like that's probably the best in the NFL.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like, I mean, I feel like
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: Ola yak, that's yards after the catch and if.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: It's not, he doesn't really do that, bro, Like after
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: the catch, I want like a Deba Ravens.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna take z a flowers size? Right here?
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: This is me bro, I know I'm just missing.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: I wish I still had hands Villa. Well I took
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: d Hop. Oh you know what I could take? What
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 3: are you gonna take? Okay yackability? Yack Ability is not
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: really za Zay gets arm tackled right, I would, but
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: he's he is not bad. He is not bad. He's
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: on the upper end athleticism. Za is pretty athletic. But
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: I kind of I kind of want to go i
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: Q with d Hop with him being an older guy.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: You know that's what I was thinking too.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 3: I think I will take flowers yack ability because I
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: feel like he doesn't get very far a dot like
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, for like the like two years
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: in a row, he was like the lowest in the
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: NFL for a dot.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: Jettas is that was that Jettis, Yeah, bro, like whatever
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: the hell you want?
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: I know, I mean, IQ is probably the least amount
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: of one.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say his IQ is amazing, Dude.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: I wish you had a route running.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: I know, I mean, but justin Jefferson and then the
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: i Q.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, really I would have. I would have athleticism.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: No, he's he's not.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: I think that's one of his biggest knocks coming out
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: of college. Was Yeah, but like in my mind, like IQ.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: For who WHOA You didn't let him? You didn't?
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a given right.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe he wants Jameson Williams like you You never know, man.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't even think Josh did even say
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: anything right here?
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: He knew where I was going? What the hell?
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: All right? All right? Who do I get?
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: Steelers almost got the Saints and.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: Calvin Austin. It is buddy, Calvin Austin.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: It is Roman Wilson.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: Hell, Roman Wilson. Dude. What happened to him? Take?
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: His toughness been pretty good, mostly because he got to
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: be pretty tough with McCarthy's pretty rough out there.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: Austin.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: Calvin Austin would have been nice.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: I guess you could take athleticism for Calvin Austin. That's
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 3: probably my my best. I think I'm gonna have to
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: go with that.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, because I don't I don't know.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, what would be better than that?
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like Roman Wilson. Athleticism would have been
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: maybe better.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: See, dude, he hasn't played.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: He's been really good this year. Legit has been good.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, I got this.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: I'm learning to take him.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: I mean it's literally just Roman Wilson or oh I fumbled?
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: Can I change mine? Can I change mine?
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: No? I already have Steelers wide receiver next, buddy.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: No, this is actually horrible.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: A speed demon for the Steelers. I feel like they
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: have a speed demon.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, Brecon just took him.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: You know who I should have took.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: Why you're gonna help him right now?
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: Well, he already hasn't.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: Filled out, No he doesn't, Yeah he does.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: He should have. I should have took an Adam Dealing
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: I q oh I forgot that Adam Delen was on
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: the Steelers.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: I think there's another one that you could take. He
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: was like the best Redsan threat for like two years
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 4: in a row.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: Do I even know? Dude? I feel like I am
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: dropping down the ball knowledge rankings on like Stellers wide receivers.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: It's really just Roman Wilson and Adam Deelen left.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: But oh man, I just dealing toughness because, like I'm.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: Saying, at pretty solid, bro, why is that that's probably
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 4: your best choice?
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: No, it's because like I'm like saving chips on the
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: table for athleticism, That's why. But like I'm like, should
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: I save it or like, should I go for another?
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, charge cheat code key Allen hands mm hmm,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 3: that's easy. I feel like not taking lads yack a billion.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: Yea lads yack.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 4: No, bro, forget that. Give me Keen Allen and it's
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 4: way more elite.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: He was literally.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: Allen. He's not Keenan Allen.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: You got chargers.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: Fuck And I don't have guess who I could take
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: from my i Q spot.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: Just because he's white, don't mean he's smart freaking.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: But he is. Though he is smart. Give me lad
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: probably should have took him for toughness. To be honest,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: he's he's about half. He's a tough athletics.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: Quinn Josh, I have the two most important pieces from
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: my wide receiver. Left athleticism, A J.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say three years in a row or
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 3: three three in a row, not years? Sorry, a J.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: Brown athleticism.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: Oh that's perfect.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: And I'm not even thinking about that.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: This is my my rat.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: What I was saying, I was scared. I was scared
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: to save athleticism. But I'm glad broncos broncos yack ability.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, he's pretty good after the catch?
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: Who will he get?
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm? Please give me some options.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: Jordan Addison.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: Or Osborne or Hendrick Osborn?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: Uh k j Osborne?
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: K j Osborne?
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: Is he even on the team?
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: Max Roseman, what are you talking about?
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: Bro?
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: Who's the return guy? That's a receiver?
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 4: He's actually not bad kJ Osborne? No, I swear to
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: Osborne has return kicks. I don't think I'll take I'll
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 4: take Adam nine. I'll take Ada nine or sorry, Jordan Addison.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: Edison's pretty good.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: Bro Addison toughness, all right? Who's gonna be my speed?
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: I have that least?
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: Oh never mind, it's d K. I don't know why
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: I look empty.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: Exavier speed, Exavier speed that's why you save.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 3: It for the last. Mooney is faster in game. Same
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: with Isaiah bon.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: Bro Worthy has been here all year, so.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: There's no entries in this.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 3: Who is who has the better wide receiver?
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna just go down the list, Josh, why
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: don't we go down each each one? What do you mean?
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like each each category, we we tally up.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: Route running, route running, j S, Nico, Adam.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 3: And I. I feel like Adam is debatable.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: But I say that is not debatable.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: You're bolding them. Yeah, I think you should underline him.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: It's finey, this isn't mad okay.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: And then Keenan what I think.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: I think it's Garrett.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: I think he goes Garrett Keenan and then Tillman.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, here, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: this if this makes sense.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: I think Nico's a better route runner than Ada nine.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. Ada nine is actually really good. I
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 3: just can't. I feel like it's gotta be lad.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding, it should be Amana. I don't know.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 3: Amrod just did it a gregious penalty, and he said
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 3: that he knew that he did it and it lost
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: just in the game.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson would never I'm just saying.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but so also his size to be consistently open
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 4: and play the way he does, I mean the exact
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 4: same thing.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: He's not as good as am.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 3: No, he's not. I think is one. But I think's
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 3: in the chat right now.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 4: You don't think j Justin Jefferson is pretty athletic. What
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 4: it's pretty pretty pretty IQ?
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 3: I think I think he is. I think he is,
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 3: but like that's not that's not what stands out about him.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 3: That's not like his best string for sure is the
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 3: one I think Lads the two mm ah no, yes,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like j Jettis gets open based on his running,
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 3: like like you don't see j Jetta's really like settling
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 3: down in zones and stuff like like you do, Lad.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he does. He does. He does, but not.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 6: Not like.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: Anything.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 3: I disagree. I think that's the reason why Ladd's a
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 3: first round pick. I think that's why he's in the
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: NFL is because of his idea.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think he'll ever be them to running.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: Is I Q to an extent, but like it's it's
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 3: it's not this like I think ad Is is up
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 3: there with when it comes to i Q. No, No, dude,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 3: Ladd lacks in the athleticism department. He lacks in the
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 3: big playability, he lacks in size.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: I don't even think he's close to.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's close to either.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: No, I think as one, I've never like whatever.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 3: Honestly, Jetta's like my my.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 2: Point, my point either way, I'm winning.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 3: But I'm just like, my point is lad Ladd relies
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: on his i Q so much more than Yeah.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: I mean he.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: Jefferson does.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, neither neither has Jetta's.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: I think I think Ladd is too.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 3: I think Ladd is too.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, next next one, I'll just go around
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: our neighbors.
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  Speaker 3: I would give it a neighbors. I don't know, I
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 3: don't know. No, it's got to be neighbors.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: It's got to be cal athletes.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: Got to be Calvin Auso.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 3: Let's give it Calvin's last for sure.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: Toughness. This is a weird category.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you measure this?
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 3: That one is hard. I feel like John Mitchie's gotta
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: be in last. He's missed time.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: See, I don't know, Ryan, I was thinking a J. Brown.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: For sure. It's athleticism. It could be argued like it's
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: up there, but I'd give it to Neighbors.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 4: I would give That's what I think, that's what made
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 4: Neighbors right. I think theling is the obvious choice. But
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 4: I think I think Neighbors. The reason why he rose
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 4: so high in the draft above Romo Dunes.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: It was because he was more athletic profile.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: I think it goes thelan Addison Metchi.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: I'll just do it like that.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: There's not after the yards, after the catch. I'd go
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 2: to Dave Flowers.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would go say whose second speed
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 3: worthies first? To be honest, second might be Troy Franklin.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 3: I think you're really overestimating, Like it's not that because
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 3: it was like O Lave. Yes, he has yak, but
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 3: it's because he's so open. It's not like in the
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: open field he's breaking tackles, breaking people down, joking them
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 3: like he's just Fastowers though, Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: I'm saying no like Troy Franklin. Yeah, I'm saying Troy
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: Flanklin is too.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 4: Literally, Fowers became a first round draft pick was literally
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 4: only because of his yack.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 3: Like I would I would put I'd put Franklin in
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 3: at too.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: We'll do that.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 4: Oh dang, No, I agree with breaking in this one
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 4: and that's coming. You're not gonna You're not You're not
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 4: gonna run into rounds with the lava.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: I think, no, exam what is not one?
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, we were talking about the last category.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 3: Now it's just like straight line speed is this.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 2: Is just faster?
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: Shut up, bro Worthy, faster o Mooney easily homes just
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: be missing Xavier Worthy.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, side k come on.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 3: Bro over Mike Evans. I'm just kidding. No, but I
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 3: think it goes Mike.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: My receivers better.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would clearly say Josh's receiver.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: Josh, I have more first place than you. No, you don't, Yes,
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: You have two, three, three and three. Yeah, Reckon has
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: two first first place tallies.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 3: Mine is the most complete.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: I have two seconds a second.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm second.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 3: Mine's mine's the most complete.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: You have two seconds and I have three three.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 3: First No, I have three seconds.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what I mean. You have three seconds
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: and two first and I have three four and two seconds,
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: which one's.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: Way more than the others. Yeah.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 3: That like like I feel like Nico's third, but like
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 3: Nico's route running is good. Like I feel like my
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 3: worst is Calvin Austin. Like I feel like I feel
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 3: like Calvin Austin and Chris o'lave yak and Calvin Austin
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 3: athleticism should be similar, Like I I think the o
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 3: lave Yak was probably the worst choice in this whole class.
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: I think the OG I.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: Think the OG the OG list is weighs more than
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: the speed and size.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: The what like, like.
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: The original list that you had, besides toughen it like
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: at the top four way more than.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: The bottom four.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: They definitely do, and mine mine has three out of
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: four of those second I.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 3: Think two then I get two out of three out
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: of those out of those top Yeah, I think.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: That was I think that was understood.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: Just looking at the names you have compared to Fonso,
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah.
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, d the ability was such, I think, yeah, Alave,
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 9: speed was for sure the answer should have went with
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 9: at that time. And also because imagine if you had
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 9: rice at the end for yards after catchability you that
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 9: would have made your team look so much better.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 3: But yeah, would have been the best. You would have
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 3: you literally a Lave would have been the fastest still
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 3: and Rice would have been the best. Yak, So you
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 3: would have had four.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 4: But I think my top But we said the top
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 4: four are the more one.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: Top four are more important.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like size and speed don't matter.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: If your hands and you know how to get you
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: some athleticism, bro, But still, I mean Deontay Thornton what
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: Deontay Thornton's six two with athleticism, knows how to get open,
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: knows where to go and can catch the ball. Who
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: would that be, Jason? It would just be ceed Lamb bro,
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: Just dude, we just Josh built.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good camp. Josh is building George George Pickens.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: He just built George pickets. That's that's what I built.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 3: Actually, George does not have route running anywhere near Jayson Brot.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: I just built CD lamb just so right, but kind
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: of you kind of you.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 3: Kind of did build ceede Lamb like a faster CD lamb.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a faster CD lamb Yeah.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 3: More athletic.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: Who would breaking up Bil Hansomer?
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: Mike probably Mike Evan should have put face.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: We should have put face in name as a category.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 3: To be honest. I just built Drake London. I literally
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 3: just built Drake London with more like able to break
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 3: tackles better.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you did build Dude, you did build
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: Drake London like I.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: Who did? Who did fundso build DK?
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: Six three ted runs route side athletic Brown?
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: He just built DK.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: I just built DK smarter, smarter, Oh my gosh, he did?
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 3: He did? I built with with the hands and everything. Dude,
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 3: you did build DK. That's crazy.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: I build a smarter DK, which hey hey, I'm just saying, like.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 3: A smarter DK. Well to body of black people.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: What's a tier above DK?
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 3: Like DK?
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: Brown?
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 3: DKs build a J A J.
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: Brown pretty much honestly, No.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 3: That's not.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: A Brown Brown would be better technically than Drake Lindon
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: because A. J.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 3: Brown got way better hands. And he's not he's not
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 3: as fast as DK straight line, but he's.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 2: Better in the same size.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's smaller, is he? Yeah, he's like two inches
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 3: smaller or three inches smaller. I watched that.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, D I got four.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, six four two thirty and J.
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: Brown's was like six two.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 3: He's like six one really, it's oh.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: My gosh, Airic Jordan's Oh my goodness, a J Brown.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: There we go. He's six one.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah that is any difference, yes, six six one.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 3: Tell me.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: He's built Mike Evans.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 3: I didn't. Mike Evans got way better hands.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah he does, dude, I fumbled.
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just built DK. Yeah, smarter, sty brother, I
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 3: got London.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 4: Josh cd PK with at a night route running might
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 4: be a demon, to be honest with you.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 3: That's what.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 3: The only thing is like the the yeah, like the yack.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: Would imagine a guy with like jsn athleticism with I
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: mean with Molik Neighbors athleticism, when jays N's route running
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: and hands like I mean hands like Keenan Allen and
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: IQ like, dude, that's insane. And toughness of John MATCHI
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: don't forget about that, over answer.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 4: Give me the toughness of freaking Michael Sam living his
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 4: life every day.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: Sorry with Carl Nasty. Give me the toughness of Karl Nasty.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 6: All right, let's dods, dads give me the give me
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 6: the toughness of them.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: I always forget that he's got two dads.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 2: Give me the toughness of John Collins.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: After Anthony Edwards what he did.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 4: Oh man, no, not John Collins, Jason Collins. I mean,
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 4: give me the toughness.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 3: Of Oh update, I'm a MAVs fan.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Brecon is a MAVs fan.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 3: I completely, I'm officially a MAVs fan.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 4: For those of you that don't know, give me the
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 4: toughness of Carl Nasty and Jason Collins and Michael sam.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: Al Right, so called MVPs. Brecon, who's yours?
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 3: Mmm going in? I really wanted to give it to
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 3: Nick m and Wari because he absolutely balled out.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 4: But didn't get just he did get done by Pooka
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 4: Nikua that whole game, like he's talking no, no, no, no
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 4: no no, that was no there was there was vividly no.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they talked ship to each other. But he played
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 3: really good. Was talking. He played really good. He did.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, come back to me, come back to
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: the eight points. I don't know how good.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 3: They give me a la, give me a lave.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: That was absolutely right there, dude, and his yack ability.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 2: You know who my m v P is, guys, I
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: don't know who my m v P is. It's gonna
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: be cam Ward.
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be cam Ward this week, you know, just
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 4: getting the job done against the kNs City Chiefs. Touchdowns,
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 4: get getting a great dove, securing us a better pick
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 4: Tony Poller, thank you, you know.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, give me the Tennessee Titans on my soul
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 2: called Amp of the week. Actually, let's go Tennessee, come
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: back to Houston.
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: You know, you know what this one. I couldn't decide
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: between these two guys. It's most random. I never thought
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: I'd be picking between these two guys. But the Steelers
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: running back room, Kenneth Gainwell and Jalen Warren. These two
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: guys combined for over two hundred yards three touchdowns. So
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: the Steelers backfield, they're on fire right now. So shout
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: out to Jalen Warren and Kenneth Gainwell, those my so
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: called MVPs. All right, any last words before I get
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: Good night, I have to pee.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 3: God bless bro.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, we'll see you guys soon. You guys take care