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Yoreh De’ah 201:59-64. Mikvaos: Combining Mikvaos, Minimal Mikvah, Chabad · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, good morning. We are continuing.
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  Help us Mikvas. We are at Raish Aleph and we are
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  at Nun tet, Nun tet UK, UK. OK, what is that Perosh kafira?
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  A couple of different explanations for what that is
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  from the but anyways, Shibata ha mikva IM haita karka ham
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  abdellah bina UK bina mikva bria.
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  Basically Luka's a, a deeper chamber, a deeper pit, but that
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  was dug up below the main Chamber of the the main mikvah
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  itself. OK, so it depends now.
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  So there's a basically you were able to dig maybe from the side,
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  whatever it is, you're able to dig like a little bit of a hole
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  underneath your mikvah. And then that hole was able to
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  is, is getting filled up with water and it's connected.
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  So let's keep reading Shabbatoka mikvah E Maita karka.
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  So if the ground between the upper mikvah and the lower hole
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  or chamber so that that you're able to stand on it.
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  But well, let's see it's, it's strong we and you can stand on
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  it if you hold on one of that's my aim.
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  Matibilin bumayim shiba Luka achiyu Uravim IMA Mikva Kishore
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  Farah tanod. So similar to as we learned
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  before, as long as there's a, if it's separate, right?
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  Two separate chambers divided by a wall that you could stand on.
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  So that separates it. It makes it 2 separate chambers
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  and the top one is Mensa, The bottom one is less than 40 CEA
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  to the bottom one. The lower chamber is for sure
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  going to be a puzzle mikva because it's its own separate
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  mikva, its own separate body of water, and it's not 40 CEA.
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  But as long as there's a connection of a full area of
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  Kishore Verita node, it's no problem.
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  That's you're combining connecting the two bodies of
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  water and and we look at it as its one body, even if it would
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  be 20 and 20, you can add them up together, but if you can't
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  stand on it like it's too thin, it'll collapse.
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  So then a few inam uragam ella bekosuhu magbilin baham.
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  Then you just need a chuta SE ara, just a tiny little gap
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  where the water can connects it, connect it.
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  And that's 100% enough. You do not need kishwaferra
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  tanode because it's really not considered a completely two
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  different chambers. It's like a a small protrusion
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  of the original body of water, like similar to the halafa that
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  we just learned before. And so it's all considered one
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  mikvah do. You have to capture a picture of
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  this in your mind. Yeah, I can maybe send you a
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  picture. If you look in certain
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  Mishnaya's books or whatever, they'll have pictures.
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  Basically any chamber underneath another chamber.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  You poured it in from the side or you have a hole.
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  You have a little hole. I need a little hole.
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  The Kucerne is memsa and you connect it with a tiny little
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  hole. So now the water drains in there
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  and it fills it up. So as long as that wall is
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  sturdy, then that's a separate mikvah and it doesn't connect
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  unless the opening is Kushil Ferretta note and we're not
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  going to get into it again. But this is similar to the
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  Khabad mikvah where you have it's not the whole story, but
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  just it's partially the partial story is if you have a Khabad
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  mikvah 1 mikvah on top of another, as long as you have an
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  opening and they make sure they have an opening, I think it's
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  they make it a tefak by tefak and then it's considered like
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  one chamber. So they clean out the top water
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  and they the bottom one is actually the kosher 1.
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  Here it's the reverse. But in their case, the the oats
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  are bore megashamin is the bottom one and then the top one
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  they filter out And as long as OK, anyway, let's see Samer
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  Shalosh Gummot Shibunako, shibunako.
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  So now you have three separate, what's it called?
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  Duck puddles. But whatever we'll call them
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  whatever depressions could be puddles or mikvos, whatever you
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  want to call it, a longer river, a Tatonia, the Eliona shell,
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  Estrem Seia. The top and bottom are Estrem
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  Seia. So right, we're assuming it's
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  kosher water, but you don't have 40 sail the ham Saeed shell
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  Arbaim and the middle one is 40 sail.
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  This Shatab the Shamim over and then through the mega Shamim it
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  goes here. Alpha Picchu nichenas le Tokan
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  Vyotzai MI Tokan. Even though it goes in and out
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  ains E aru that's not doesn't combine them.
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  The Ain Matibilin Alabam Saeed, the only one that's kosher to is
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  the middle one Shane Hanis Khalin Maarviim Ella Inkane
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  Abdul. So in order to have this is what
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  is what it's saying basically in order for there to be to combine
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  and connect MI kovos, we said you can have water connecting
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  them Kishwa Ferretanode. But this concept only works if
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  it's Stillwater, if the water is not moving, if the, if you're
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  having a, a river that's moving and that's what's Kishwafera
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  Tanoda and that's what's connecting them and we're
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  talking about mega Shamim, then it's does not make a connection
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  for a Mayan. Could be I, I believe it's OK.
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  I have to double check. I believe it's OK because
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  Zocalin is OK for Mayan, but for but if it's Mega Shamim think
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  that's what he also means over here by Shetev Shoga Shamin
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  right and the shock says that, but Ferish OK.
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  It could be any moving body. The principle is any moving body
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  of water never makes a connection by Mega Shamin Miguel
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  even though we said that. That's really the source of the.
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  No. So then in the case of if it's a
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  Maya, if it has AI don't want to go again to.
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  If it has a dent of a Mayan, it's not a problem.
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  If it has a dent of Megashami, major problem.
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  It never connects while it's moving.
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  And that's it. Pretty simple that.
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  By the way, there's a, there's a concept of katapras, enochibor.
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  So it's you cannot make a connection with the katapras.
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  I'm not going to get into it exactly, but Pashtus, what is
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  that halafa? That's our halafa.
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  It means when you have water moving down on a slope, that's
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  zohalin and it doesn't make a connection.
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  Some say it's also a problem with the Khabad mikvah because
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  it's the considerate. However, they learned the din of
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  katapras in a in a hibor. That might be an issue.
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  But OK, let's go to samer alaf akofet yada viragla vyasha bloba
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  amata maim. If a person is bound up, you
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  have a prisoner and he's bound up his hands and his legs and
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  he's put down inside a kosher mikva IM nich nisumaim dere hulo
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  tower. As long as he's fully immersed,
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  it's a kosher dipping. Oh, you're right.
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  OK, it could be. It could also mean if you kind
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  of fold yourself up. OK, could be, I have to double
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  check. Could be makes no difference.
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  No matter how the halacha is telling you, no matter how you
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  go in the water, you're you would say you become taller.
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  The Kasif mission explains that you might think it's I think
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  it's the source. Is it from the is it from the
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  Rambam? I forget, but he writes right, I
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  think so could be it's the sources from the Rambam or maybe
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  a tocefta. But the point is it's not so
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  clear exactly what's the Hiddish.
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  So the the Kasif mission explains because you might think
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  that you can only go to a mikvah Darek you do low the way you
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  normally you grow erect or whatever, whatever is normal.
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  But to be like like you said, fold it up, which I OK, it could
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  be so then it doesn't matter. Bottom line, this Alleka just
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  pointing out to you, it doesn't matter in what direction and
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  what form you go in, as long as your entire body is covered in
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  there at the same time surrounded by water, then it
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  works OK. Samakhbat miqvashyeshba arbaim
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  seiya. Now you have a miqba 40 Seiya
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  bensum summit. Exactly, it's in somewhat Adam
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  hatob El bitocho lo yikfoots litocho.
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  OK, so so this is again another din.
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  I think it's quoted in the gemara anyways is maybe to SEPTA
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  that one is not supposed to jump inside the water.
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  So the Shokanara is telling you it's that case is referring to a
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  case of Arbaimsea. It's exactly Fortissa.
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  So what's the problem of jumping Shiloh Yaksuromayim Fitsa
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  tobitojo? Because if you jump in and water
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  splashes out before your head gets in there, before you're
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  immersed already some of the water is missing and it's not
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  Fortissa. So just it's, I mean, it's just,
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  it's, I would say it's a, it's, it's a, it's much stronger than
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  an 8 satoba. But it's just, it's a practical
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  thing. So that's the idea.
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  Don't jump in because then there might not be 40 left by the time
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  you're inside. OK, so that's that.
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  And you should not dump go whenever it's a 40 Exactly.
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  You should not dip twice. Then again, you dip once.
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  The is you should only dip once. Why is that?
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  OK, that's the that's it. Because what happens if you dip
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  once? If if you're planning to dip
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  twice, a person who has a mind to dip twice automatically, The
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  normal psyche of most normal people is they know they're
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  going twice, so at least one of them has to work out the first
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  one of them. Whatever however their brain
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  works. They might assume their ICAR is
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  the first or their ICAR is the second, whatever it is.
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  So they're going to, if they know they're going twice, they
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  might have the mindset and it's very normal that the first time
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  they're going to probably do a perfect job, but whatever they
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  know they're going to go again. And the second time, that's when
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  they always make sure you know their hair is already wet.
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  And the second time is more likely to do it right the second
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  time. So what happens is you might dip
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  twice and then you're going to have in mind you won't be so
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  careful the first time and then by the second time of dipping,
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  the water might not be some of the water might disappear or
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  splash out. Every time you dunk, you come
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  up, water splashes. When you come out, it's no
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  longer as long as it's in the water, I don't think it's a
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  problem. That's only when you come out
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  that that we did learn to feel, you know, very moist that you
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  can make something else damp is not enough to be a kibor.
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  All right, well, this is the Allah.
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  Now what I do want to point out is the Rambam just it's out of
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  interest. He says he quotes the same
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  halacha from the Tosefta Gumara, but he gives 2.
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  He gives a different reason for both of them is it's maguna.
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  It's, it's, it's not appropriate.
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  It's you're going to do a mitzvah and you, you jump and do
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  the mitzvah. No, you do it with a little
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  more, you're a shamayim or what's it called the COVID
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  Roche. So that's the, the Rambam's
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  reason for that Alaka. So for the Rama, it makes no
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  difference. Even our mikvahs that are way
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  above 40. So he holds you shouldn't jump
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  in like a swimming pool because it looks, I've been to a mikvah
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  before. Sometimes you see if there's
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  kids that come to the mikvah, you see them jumping in,
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  especially if they don't have a pool at home.
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  So it's it's fun. So that's what the Rambam says
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  you shouldn't do when you're doing it for the mitzvah.
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  Doesn't mean he didn't say you can never do that in the mikvah.
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  He didn't say kids can't though. He just said when you're doing
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  it for the mitzvah, that's Miguna.
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  Maybe it's for kids too, I don't know.
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  OK. And and going twice.
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  It's also miguna because it looks like you're doing it to
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  cool off. And usually those mikvahs were
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  cool. The generally mitzvahs were
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  never hot. We're going to learn at the very
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  end that there's a problem with hot Miklas.
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  Even though we're Maple nowadays, there is a problem.
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  And what's it called? So anyways, it's you.
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  It'll look like you're not doing it for the mitzvah.
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  It'll look like you're doing it in order to cool off.
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  And that's the problem with going twice.
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  OK, Tav, we saw Tav, Lubo, Schneinzer, Karzer.
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  And if you dip twice, once after another alpha Pischeragla of
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  shell Rishon noga Oddemayim, the Shokanak says himself, Even
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  though your leads are, they're still touching the water.
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  You didn't get out a Shani Bitumato one second, Tablo
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  Boschnaim Zakhar said. You have two people, they go one
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  after another of mikvah. That's exactly 40.
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  So the first guy goes in and then he comes out, but he's
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  still standing in there. His feet are in the water and he
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  didn't get out completely. So his body is soaking wet, but
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  he's mostly out or partially out.
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  And the Shani goes in there. Betuma toe.
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  The second one stays Tami shahre khasur hamayim me arbaim say ah
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  because when the second guy goes in, the first guy is still out
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  and his water is gone. So that's why if it's the same
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  person going twice, we'll leave it as it's Arakin.
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  Let's do some with Gilmo heat Bilbo baguette Ava shahamaya
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  nivayan betocha. You have a baguette clothing you
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  dipped in the water and it's now it's soaking wet.
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  As long as the baguette is still even if it's half out but it's
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  touching, then it's kosher. OK, it's still you still count
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  the water. The water is not considered like
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  it's missing even though it's above the mikvah.
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  It's out of the mikvah but part of the baguette.
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  Part of the water is out of the mikvah but part of it is still
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  inside and it's all connected. It's still kushar.
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  That water still counts Alpha Picia Zavomi Menush Locha Lugima
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  mikvah, even though it absorbed and pulled out three lugging
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  from the mikvah hello Mimenu puzzle.
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  But if you pull it out completely and then you put it
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  back in well, it's too late as soon as you pull out the
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  baguette completely with the absorbed 3 Lugin and now you
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  have less you have a mikvah that's less than 40 SE right.
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  The all these problems are busy. It's less than 40.
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  So so again, hello Mimenu puzzle.
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  Once you take it out, now the whole the water inside the whole
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  miqva, everything becomes puzzle.
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  Shenaz says Shaoh me a mime Shiadu me a bag of the toko.
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  Because this water that's in the bag, it becomes mime Shuvi.
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  And now it's going back. It's going to puzzle your
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  miqvah, the IME mat Bilbel Yora or Charqueli Murrido Toko Derek
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  Pien Shaloh Yinazu, a mime, Kishi Mitoko.
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  So he says like this. Now our mikvahs, again, we're
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  not not really an issue because our mikvahs are much more than
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  40 cell. But here if you have a mikvah
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  that's exactly 40 cell, you have a little issue.
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  He says don't put, don't put in the mikvah up.
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  They'll dip the bottle that you're putting in upside down,
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  right? The opening is down.
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  Wait a SEC. No, you should do that.
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  I think one second you should do it upside down because when you
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  put it down upside down, the water doesn't splash out.
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  I guess it's whatever, whatever the reason is.
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  That's the assumption. It doesn't splash out.
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  The water goes in. It's more narrow, whatever it is
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  and the water you're going to stay with 40 S.
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  But if you put it upside down when you put it in, obviously it
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  depends how quick you put it in. Again, all these this is it's
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  not a lack of emotion. You see now it's a principle or
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  a real principle. It's more of common sense and
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  being practical. OK, so then it's the way you do
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  it. You put you should put it down
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  upside down. So it's not a problem.
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  Maleo Dera Shulov But then while it's under the water, you have
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  to flip it and make it No, no. Derek Shulov no, no, no.
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  And just lift it up the same way.
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  They should really share bromine on my and we have some on my
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  club, right. You have to make sure the water
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  goes inside, so you might have to turn it to its side, Make
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  sure there's no bubbles. The water has to fill it up on
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  the inside, but when you take it out, keep it upside down the way
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  it was. So all the water goes back in.
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  Agaa cola maim shibakli So all the water from the mikvah goes
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  back in and you still have 40 SE.
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  Obviously we're talking about a case when it was exactly 40 SAA,
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  but a Masha gumor because a little bit of water is going to
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  stick on the bottle. The gumsha maim shibakli you
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  shooting. Also, if you do it the other
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  way, then the water that you take, if you were to take out
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  the water the bottle regularly and you have exactly 40 SAA and
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  you pick up the bottle, you're going to have a bottle full of
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  water. Now the mic was less than 40.
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  You turn it upside down to put the water back in there for the
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  next dish or the next person. Well, now you just put in three
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  looking of mine, shoving or whatever.
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  You don't have enough of 40 S to make a kosher anymore.
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  So it's just important that you don't be careful when you have a
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  mic that's exactly 40 the and then that's what we just said.
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  You took it out. You no longer have 40.
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  But again, our always have forty way above way more than 40.
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  So it's not a problem. Let me see if we just do a bit
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  more. Hamad Bilkar or Cassidy the
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  Mikvacheshwar running sail. Nikhil Bannock, if you're going
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  to dip inside a pillow, now, these pillows are made of
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  leather. OK?
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  Basically, we're talking about any kind of container that
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  doesn't have holes and any container anything, Yeah,
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  anything that doesn't have holes.
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  In those days, they are made of leather.
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  So it would hold the water inside.
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  They would take a pillow, there would be a made a leather case,
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  fill it up with some kind of wool or whatever it is,
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  feathers, and that would be your pillow.
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  And it would apply nowadays, I believe to plastic as well.
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  Because as we learned before, it has to be like a cleat, doesn't
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  have to be a cleat. That's there's no more luck, but
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  it has to be macabo tuma. You can even have a mine
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  shooting by stone dishes. OK, so let's so you have exactly
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  40K1 should real estate today. Amaya means so amaya.
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  So if you lift it upward, then water is going to come inside
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  and fill it up. You're going to pick it up with
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  water inside and immediately that water is going to come
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  Mayim shuvim again, we're talking about a 40 exactly
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  mikvah. So Kate said, Yasa, what do you
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  do, Madhubila and Umala and Derek Shulaya and you put it in,
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  but then you make sure you turn it upside down and you pull it
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  out of a la koopa BES Akman, Bilimala and Kadar convey a
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  whole sheesh. But if you're going to put in
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  any material that's has holes in there, like a Wicker basket or
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  any any normal baguette, the water runs right through it and
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  therefore it's no problem whatsoever.