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Women on sex strike, men to blame! _ Maintaining Frame 125 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Brian. I'm here with Alison and this is a
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  Speaker 1: maintaining frame. What number are we on, uh, maintaining frame
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  Speaker 1: number one twenty five Women on sex strike, Men to blame?
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  Speaker 1: Obviously we're.
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  Speaker 2: Huh, we've done a lot of these.
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  Speaker 1: I just said, yeah, one hundred and twenty five. Well
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  Speaker 1: that's just that. I mean it's been more than that too,
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  Speaker 1: because we used to call this series HBr Debate and
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  Speaker 1: then it turned out then we were getting requests and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and so yeah, I don't know, I have thousands of shows.
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  Speaker 1: I think I've done thousands of these.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine a compilation of me tripping you up?
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  Speaker 2: Interrupted you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you know, AI is going to get to
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  Speaker 1: the point where it can go through our entire catalog
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  Speaker 1: and like just like you can just select, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all of the rants rants compilation, it'll put it together
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  Speaker 1: probably right.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, but yeah, it was this. This is
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  Speaker 2: uh yeah, and this is a two fer.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna get we're gonna do the first thing
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna release is gonna be a right compilation and
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  Speaker 1: it's just gonna be Karen saying, right, and it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: run for like ten hours, right, and I know there
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  Speaker 1: are people who watch us that will like absolutely pay
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  Speaker 1: to watch that. So there you go when win with
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  Speaker 1: But the AI is not ready yet. We're not there yet.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty requests just just ten hours of Karen saying right,
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  Speaker 2: oh man.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So anyway we got for you guys a couple
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  Speaker 1: of requests from our subscribers.
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  Speaker 2: One is one one page.
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  Speaker 1: We're just doing one. Oh but he did both requests.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he did both requests. I'm still waiting on perhaps
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  Speaker 2: the Great Indoors will do a request. But he's still
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  Speaker 2: trying to fee.
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  Speaker 1: He's saying you an audio thing, didn't He's.
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  Speaker 2: Sort of a connoisseur of requests, like Richard Bierre is like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just give me a burger. Yeah, the Great Great Indoors
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  Speaker 2: is like, no, my requests must be of a refined palette.
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  Speaker 2: So it may take it a little bit longer to
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  Speaker 2: figure out what he wants. Which you know this this
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  Speaker 2: slap is you say, Richard likes the slop, but then
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  Speaker 2: so do a lot of these women subscribers. They're in
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  Speaker 2: Hannah ca Cox CAx, hann of CAx, Hannah Cox is
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  Speaker 2: probably going to uh, she's probably gonna blow up honestly
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  Speaker 2: at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Oh, I mean I think so, I
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  Speaker 1: think so, you know, I don't, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: think I don't Hannah Cox has. It's what I'm noticing
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  Speaker 1: is that there are very few people who are actually
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  Speaker 1: like operating in this conversation. I've always seen this, ever
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  Speaker 1: since I started doing this. I've always seen this as
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  Speaker 1: I want to encourage a discussion that's productive and at
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  Speaker 1: least somewhat serious, and I'm I mean, like, the longer
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  Speaker 1: I do this, the more I realize that, like, the
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  Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of people that are involved in this discussion
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  Speaker 1: are neither of those things. And I think Hannah Cox
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  Speaker 1: is one of them. I think that most people they
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  Speaker 1: have a brand. They're like, this is my brand. I'm
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  Speaker 1: playing this character. I'm LARPing as this thing I have to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like, and that means I had to lean
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  Speaker 1: into this construct of the of a person. I've made
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  Speaker 1: this persona my online persona that I have to play,
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  Speaker 1: and they do that. And Hannah Cox is her persona
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  Speaker 1: is I'm the reasonable like feminist libertarian, and so she
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  Speaker 1: has to stay in character for that reasonable feminist libertarian
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  Speaker 1: and essentially gaslight people into thinking that she is like
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  Speaker 1: reasonable or libertarian while just really just being a feminist
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of the stuff that she advocates for.
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  Speaker 1: It's anathema, it is, it is an aberration to anyone
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  Speaker 1: who actually understands libertarianism. But we still have to play
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  Speaker 1: along like she's the libertarian option, and it's like exhausting.
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  Speaker 1: It's like these people who are like, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: I just watched the thing with doctor Phil and doctor
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  Speaker 1: Phil was doing an interview with uh, well he was
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  Speaker 1: doing an interview with Telsey Gabbard, but it wasn't about her.
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  Speaker 1: He basically was talking about you know, well, I'm the
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  Speaker 1: kind of person remember when nine to eleven happened, there
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  Speaker 1: were no left and right, that was just Americans. And
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  Speaker 1: now I was like, no shit, doctor Phil, you have
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  Speaker 1: a PhD to tell people that, like people are normal
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  Speaker 1: like most of the time. Like it's just like this
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  Speaker 1: is not elevating the discussions about anything, and it's really frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, Hannah Cox is kind of frustrating
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  Speaker 1: because she's there's like nothing genuine there, you know. I
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  Speaker 1: remember I sat down with brun It was like a
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  Speaker 1: month ago. I sat down with Paul Elam. He wanted
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  Speaker 1: to have brunch with me, and it was actually shortly
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  Speaker 1: after I kind of like, you know, I made a mistake.
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  Speaker 1: I made an error with him in terms of like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we were supposed to meet up for something
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't and part of it was because I
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  Speaker 1: was very sick and I had these memory lapses. This
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  Speaker 1: was in twenty twenty three. You guys might remember. I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't doing so well and then I was in the
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  Speaker 1: hospital for a while and Paul you know, apologized because
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  Speaker 1: he was pretty upset and you know, and we sat down,
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  Speaker 1: we had a long talk and we had some food,
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  Speaker 1: and he said that one of the things that he
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  Speaker 1: really appreciates about what we do here is that we
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  Speaker 1: tried to just be authentic and like if that comes
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  Speaker 1: across as like, you know, less than I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: hyper charismatic or or entertaining or whatever, because we're trying
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  Speaker 1: to be like real, he says he doesn't care, because
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  Speaker 1: that's how he operates too, you know. And this is
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  Speaker 1: one of the things like like a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sorry for hijacking this a little bit but
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that, yeah, a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: that talk about the manosphere, which includes us, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whether you like it or not, because that's how they
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  Speaker 1: framed it. There, don't like it, I don't. I know
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  Speaker 1: you don't like it, Alison, But it doesn't matter what
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  Speaker 1: you like. That's what I'm saying, Like it's irrelevant. So Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I know I did, but I'm just saying there are
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  Speaker 1: people would say that doesn't count. It's like, it doesn't matter. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: like we're we're in the frame. We shouldn't be trying
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  Speaker 1: to like apologize for what, you know, the positions we hold,
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  Speaker 1: just because our enemies, and they are our enemies, have
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  Speaker 1: essentially framed us, you know, as part of like something else.
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  Speaker 1: If we if we're trying to like apologize for that
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  Speaker 1: or compensate for that, it just puts us on the
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  Speaker 1: back foot. And we're fighting a defensive war we can't win.
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  Speaker 1: So we might as just lean in and say, sure,
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  Speaker 1: whatever whatever you want to believe, I don't give a shit.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever you want.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just have the conversation. Yeah, yeah, And it started.
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  Speaker 1: That's how the men's rights activist thing started to write
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  Speaker 1: because MRA was a slur that feminists used. They thought
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  Speaker 1: it was so like absurd that there would be a
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  Speaker 1: men's rights activist. They would just call us what we were. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then and then we just sort of like owned it,
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  Speaker 1: like Okay, sure, if that's what you want to call us. Now,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Get back to the conversation exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Saying you're authentic is almost like saying like you're humble.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't like I know, but but I'm not. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I said it, but I think that
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  Speaker 1: it's what I try to do. That's what That's what
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  Speaker 1: I would say. I try to do that. Yeah, Like Paul,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what he That's what his advantage was
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  Speaker 1: was he was authentic. He wasn't trying to like please people,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't worried about the optics he was. He was
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  Speaker 1: just like, this is what I think. And honestly, that
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  Speaker 1: actually ended up paying off when you think about it,
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  Speaker 1: because Cassie j saw his work, not Warren Ferrell's work
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  Speaker 1: that's been going on for like thirty years or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Warren Faill's not authentic, but his
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  Speaker 1: appro which is very like soft and you know, and
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  Speaker 1: and but it doesn't work, Like yeah, it's very conciliatory,
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  Speaker 1: it's very agreeable, it's very yes, air, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't think it just it doesn't work. It's just not enough.
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  Speaker 2: Let's put it that way, right.
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  Speaker 1: You need some people who are gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: More hardcore, a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: More brutally honest, right, Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And he's just I don't I think he like you said,
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  Speaker 2: I think he's being authentic to himself. But like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I don't sure, it's not enough. It's just not enough, no.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. And you need you need both of these
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  Speaker 1: types of people. And it worked out. So, like I
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  Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is that just to to sort of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, bring it down. Yeah, the hand of Cox content.
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  Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I struggle to enjoy myself
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  Speaker 1: responding to is because I don't think she's authentic. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think she's a serious person. I think she's selling
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  Speaker 1: Hannah Cox the brand. And that's why her channel will grow,
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  Speaker 1: because she's gonna like she's gonna she's got an audience
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  Speaker 1: that she's catering to, you know, much in the same
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  Speaker 1: way that Manifestel does it's the same thing they haven't.
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  Speaker 1: They have a customer base. They're gonna hold on to it.
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  Speaker 1: Hanna Cox is like the intellectual independent woman that don't
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  Speaker 1: need no man, but is also not a rabid feminist,
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  Speaker 1: or at least that's what they perceive themselves to be,
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  Speaker 1: even though they still are. It's just bubbling under the
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  Speaker 1: surface and manifestel is the you know, like cutthroat to
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  Speaker 1: do whatever you gotta do to get that bag. You know,
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  Speaker 1: men don't deserve your labor or your work. I'm angry
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  Speaker 1: at men because some guy burned me once and now
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  Speaker 1: the whole the whole species has to pay. And they
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  Speaker 1: love that. They eat it up because there is somebody
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  Speaker 1: that's telling them I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, And actually, honestly, like the the the hysteria, no,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even want to call it hysteria, the cold
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  Speaker 2: calculated evil that's coming out of the women like that,
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  Speaker 2: that that small small group of women who are absolutely
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  Speaker 2: wetted to the threat narrative party that that's what I'm
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  Speaker 2: calling the left now because that's all they have. Like
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  Speaker 2: they're starting to get really freaking creepy and also frightening.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen like I sent you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, showed. I showed it to lindsay, do you
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  Speaker 1: do you do you want to talk about that on here?
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  Speaker 2: A little bit, a little bit, not too much, let
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  Speaker 2: me see.
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  Speaker 1: Let me grab that link then, because I think it
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  Speaker 1: is worth mentioning. I was going to do it on
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  Speaker 1: the news show. I think the News show is going
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  Speaker 1: to be freaking.
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  Speaker 2: We can have like we're going to redo the or
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  Speaker 2: not do again the response to the Trump victory among
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  Speaker 2: the feminists.
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  Speaker 1: More of them, yes, more, Yeah, I was thinking.
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  Speaker 2: Of I'll ask Karen if she wants to come on
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow and we can.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure Karen is like, she's like re energized. All right,
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  Speaker 1: so let me show you all. Okay, So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: share the video here for the people that are watching
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter. So hold on a second, all right, So
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  Speaker 1: this is tweet a tweet. Let me just sorry, hold on.
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  Speaker 1: This is a tweet from somebody named I mean therefore
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  Speaker 1: I am and which is hilarious and it's a video
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  Speaker 1: and he says, holy shit, Karen's lost their fucking minds
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  Speaker 1: over Trump's win and launched MATTGA, short for make Aqua
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  Speaker 1: Tofana great Again. Aqua Tafana was a powerful poison in
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  Speaker 1: seventeenth century sicily sold by women to other women seeking
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  Speaker 1: to escape abusive relationships by discreetly poisoning their husbands. First,
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  Speaker 1: Karen's on TikTok and Instagram kicked off the four B movement,
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  Speaker 1: which Allison made a video about already, and we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about a little bit in the past on this channel.
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  Speaker 1: Refusing to marry, have children, date, or have relationships with men.
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  Speaker 1: They started wearing blue bracelets and getting blue heart tattoos
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  Speaker 1: to recognize each other in public as Harris voters, and
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  Speaker 1: this soon into the Magta movement. What the actual fuck?
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  Speaker 1: The first video got over one point three million likes
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  Speaker 1: and do you guys want me to play it? It's
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  Speaker 1: like a two minutes long.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, it's dramaticizing the idea of poisoning men killing men
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  Speaker 2: like this is This is their political commentary on all this,
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  Speaker 2: And of course they also have the usual self righteous
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  Speaker 2: bullshit about men controlling their bodies because people don't want
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  Speaker 2: to pay for them to abort their children after having
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  Speaker 2: you know, bear raw dog sex with you know whatever.
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  Speaker 2: The top twenty percent of men on Tinder like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that that's not people controlling their bodies. That says people
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  Speaker 2: controlling their own pocket books. Okay, they don't want to
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  Speaker 2: spend it on your recreational sex, right, And the other
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  Speaker 2: thing is that so they had a man say, while
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  Speaker 2: your body, my choice. But the thing is that men
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  Speaker 2: have no reproductive rights at all, like, and that's in.
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  Speaker 1: That's the leasing. But Alison, how dare he even say anything?
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  Speaker 1: Which is that that's like the thing is that men
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  Speaker 1: say something, probably to fuck with you or trolly or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: but and women take it super seriously. And then they
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  Speaker 1: put out videos of them like actually like showing like
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  Speaker 1: at least LARPing, they're gonna poison men, and and if
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  Speaker 1: you call them out on it, they're all like, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: it's just satire. Bro. I mean, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: censor these women, but it's insane that they would like
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  Speaker 1: be okay with making death threats, effectively making death threats, well,
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  Speaker 1: you think as a response to some guy trolling them
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  Speaker 1: by saying, like one guy said something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But also they have a completely distorted view of
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  Speaker 2: reality thanks to feminism, thanks to academia, thanks to the
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  Speaker 2: government that funds all this shit, and or the deep state.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I can call it the deep state since
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  Speaker 2: Trump's use that, because Karen referred to it as the
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  Speaker 2: administrative state. The deep state has constructed this threat narrative
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  Speaker 2: in which men actually have reproductive Why do you have
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  Speaker 2: to threaten to murder men in order to get them
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  Speaker 2: to sympathize with you about being able to abort? Why
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  Speaker 2: not just take away men's reproduction? Oh right, men don't
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  Speaker 2: have any Even when they're raped, men have no reproductive rice,
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  Speaker 2: They have no recourse. Okay, I just if you want
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  Speaker 2: to listen to this, that's.
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  Speaker 1: Actually it's okay. There's actually some uh there's actually some
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: license music in here, like eminem Yeah, and hey we'll
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  Speaker 1: get dinged for and I'm not gonna play it. But
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  Speaker 1: like one more thing.
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  Speaker 2: This is a catalog of Crazy Eye.
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  Speaker 1: It is it is, but like you know, I have
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  Speaker 1: to I have to ask though. This is something I
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  Speaker 1: think about. I think it's something that it's like a
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  Speaker 1: female psychology or a group female psychology thing, because like
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  Speaker 1: I said, you have people. These women are are making
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  Speaker 1: death threats against the men in their life in this
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  Speaker 1: video by showing themselves like ooh look I have poison.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it in this cup as a response
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  Speaker 1: to you know, and there's like some Nick Foentes saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, your body, my choice, And they're responding to
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  Speaker 1: one guy who's probably a gay fed by the way
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  Speaker 1: that is that is trolling them online essentially, and they're
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  Speaker 1: taking it super seriously. And I think that it's just
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  Speaker 1: like this thing with the bracelets and the heart tattoos
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  Speaker 1: and them shaving their heads. It becomes it's like the
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  Speaker 1: way that they activate. It's like they accessorize. Okay, ladies,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna wear blue. We're gonna wear blue bracelets to
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  Speaker 1: show that we're all on the same team. And what
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: is the purpose of that? Essentially to signal to women
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  Speaker 1: who aren't doing it that they're the enemy. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not just against men, it's about it's against women who
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  Speaker 1: are not down with this right, whether regardless of how
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  Speaker 1: they may have voted or whatever. And it's them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like the ladies on the view they all wore black
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  Speaker 1: the day after the election. They were like and it's
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  Speaker 1: like I made a joke with my wife. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is what women do they you know, men, they
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  Speaker 1: they like go out there and they organize, and women
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  Speaker 1: they accessorize. Oh, we're gonna wear bracelets today, ladies, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna dress up like handbates, tail costumes, we're gonna wear
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  Speaker 1: all black, you know. And I'm just like, it's not
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  Speaker 1: doing anything. I mean, it's like it's got its place.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's useless, but it's this is
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  Speaker 1: like the wrong arena for that, and and it's just
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how many of these women are furiously like
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  Speaker 1: taking this whole thing seriously, and how many of them
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  Speaker 1: are doing it because other women are doing it and
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  Speaker 1: they just want to belong and that and that's the
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  Speaker 1: that's what That's what I mean, like the bracelets and
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  Speaker 1: the tattoos, and you know, we're all friends now, the sisterhood,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. I just wonder how much of it is
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  Speaker 1: actually authentic and how much are you authenticity?
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  Speaker 2: I think I saw an infographic and I think or
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: fifty two of non black, non white women voted for Trump,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: and when you look at white women, it's like seventy
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  Speaker 2: percent plus. So how many women does this actually represent,
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  Speaker 2: especially if they're white, especially if they're white, like they
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  Speaker 2: don't they're they're a vast minority.
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  Speaker 1: I think the majority of women who were uh four
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  Speaker 1: hairs were actually the college age, the college educated women.
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  Speaker 2: They're minorities, so this is they are.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm saying that's that that that's that's telling you
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: where this comes from. It's the more educated, college educated women,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the modern college educate educated women, not the moms, not
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the grandma's, you know, not the the women who uh
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe like they didn't go to a big university,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: maybe they never maybe they just have a high school
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: education something like that.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: So, you know, something that occurred to me while I
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: was watching all this and I was talking to somebody
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: on Twitter, because I saw that the great indoors to
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: talked about, you know, repealing the nineteenth is seeming more
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: and more sensibly reasonable. Well, to be fair, if you
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: left it up to women, Trump would have won at
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: this point in this election, Let's be fair. But having
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: said that, what I what I realized after this election,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: it's one of the reasons why I told you guys
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: that it gave me a sense of hope, is that men.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I think men won this election. And when I was
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: talking to somebody about this, they brought up the usual, oh,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: if you lost eighty percent of men in a war,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: you know, you could rebuild your nation with all the
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: remaining women. Of course you wouldn't really have a nation left,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: but regardless, But I was thinking about that, and I
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: was thinking, but if a party lost eighty percent of
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: the male vote, they'd be gone.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: So it's almost like, and I know this is a
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: really radical thing to say, it's almost like giving women
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: the vote didn't give them the power of men. It
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: actually gave men the power of women as long as
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: men rise up and start recognizing their own self interest
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: in the political landscape, because that's the other thing that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: has to happen, and I think it is and it's
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: happening because let's be faced, let's face it, the most
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: consistent narrative from the left is that men are bad. Yep,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: that's the most consistent messaging. And then they're surprised when
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: men didn't vote for them, not even their own men.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: This is the great thing, Like, not even liberal men,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: not even men Democrat men voted for the Democrat Party
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: because that message was so toxic. So anyway, I just
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: wanted to put that out there so people could cogitate
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And let's get into the video, all right, Well, let's
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: go to the video. Okay, so this is Hannah Cox.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: What is this freaking thing called? Uh, I don't know whatever.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: She's responding to the female response to the Trump thing.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So what the the these women on TikTok and Instagram?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Do you get an answering the shit?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Did you get an answer for your question there?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I you know, I didn't look. I did post it
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: in there. I did get some super child as you
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: read those, but yes, I mean, let.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Me read that question. So this is the question before
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: the court. What specific parts of these videos should we
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: focus on. Hannah Cox talks about what she dislikes about Trump,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the women's response to this, and the red Pill bros.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Which is your preference? I could tell you my preference.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I don't give a crap what Hannah dislikes about Trump,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: because for me, this isn't about like, it isn't about
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Trump winning. It's about men making that happen for me, right.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: No, That's why I asked it, because I don't.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Really although I will say this, I.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Think making it about Trump is a distraction.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I will say this. For the first time when I've
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: watched him speak and I was it was about the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: free speech issue. Although I'm a little bit like, honestly,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I'm a little skeptical about his, uh, his proposal to
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: have a bill to say only two genders, because it
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: sounds like that's close to top down censorship. But we'll
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: see how that plays out. But when he was speaking
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: on free speech, I remember I was watching him, and
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: specifically I was watching his eyes and his presentation, and
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: for the first time, I think, and don't don't like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: you know, don't don't take take this with a grain
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: of salt. But it's my impression that he is like
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the the the look on his face was one of
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: pain and determination, and for the first time, I'm like
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: looking at him and I'm thinking, this guy is willing
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: to become a brick in a road to a better world.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is, I think that
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: this whole situation, with this assassination stuff, really changed his perspective.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: And for the first time for me, he's coming across
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: as someone who genuinely is willing to sacrifice for a
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: world that's worth being part of. And you know that
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: that impacted me. So I'm gonna say that about him
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and about my impression of him, And as Brian knows,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I wasn't. I'm not a fan, but.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Right, well, I okay, well that's good because they did
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: try to kill him twice at least. But what I
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: would say is that the reason why I didn't actually
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: want to make it about Trump is because I felt
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: like it would become a conversation about, you know, his policies,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and then I have to I have to be the
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: one to cape for him and at least to be like, look,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: can we just treat the guy like a normal person
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: trying to make a better trying to make a better change,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and not get distracted. But the thing is too And
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I'll just say for the record, because I don't want
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to deal with Hannah Cox's impressions of Trump, but I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: will sum it up, really really, I'll sum it up
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: in a simple fashion. She says she doesn't like him.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: She says there's a number of reasons, she doesn't list one,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: so all I I don't have anything to go off
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: of except that she's a libertarian, and so she thinks
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: both options are bad, which means she thinks that essentially
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: she's made the perfect the enemy of the good, which
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: means I can't really respond to that either. And I
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: say that as somebody who has a lot of sympathy
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: for libertarian principles, but I also live in reality where
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: that's just not a thing that we're gonna see in
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: our lifetime. Because the only way we're gonna get to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a libertarian or even closer to a libertarian like existence
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: or government structure is if we we essentially put men
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: in a in a better position in our society. So
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that's why libertarian feminism, which is what she purports, it's
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: a complete like oxymoron, because men can't be like, you
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: can't have a libertarian society if men and women aren't, like,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you know, of of some comparable value in that society, right,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. And so you know, she
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: will use I'm a libertarian as the excuse to hate
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: on a guy who you know, it just doesn't quite
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: line up with whatever she wants, and she won't actually
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: articulate what it is that she doesn't like, because I
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: think ultimately it's just like things like, oh, I don't
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like the way he talks about women, blah blah blah.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: So and for me, like we're way past that, I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: just don't care, Like I just don't care what you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: think about how people talk. So but anyway, I got
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: some superchows I should read before we get into the video.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: So Richard Bierre gives us five dollars and he's the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: guy who requested this, and he says, I found why
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: there areund two hundred or twenty million missing votes for Harris.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It nicely matches the number of flat pack cuckchairs that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: have been delivered during September through October. Turns out that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the one who sits in the cuckchair isn't the one
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: capable of assembling it, and the cock's wife and her
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: boyfriend aren't helping him to do so, and therefore he
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: couldn't get to the polls because he was too busy
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: trying to decipher the instructions where every page was in
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a different language for inclusivity reasons, and sorting out the
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: various parts and fasteners, as well as having difficulty with
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the use of tools. All right, thank you for that,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Richard Bierre. Very that's a that's a that's a decent theory.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I think that you might have some you might have
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: something there. Uh, then we got albatross. I think this
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: is the one that's on the screen. No, great indoors.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Albatross is gone already, so I'll just have to read
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: his Now Albatross gives us five bucks and says, why
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: is there this massive glute or glut of far left
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: identity politics women breaking up with their supposedly wretched, far
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: right misogynistic boyfriends. Do they just suck at vetting? Well,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that's that goes back to what I was saying before
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: about how I think that there is like women are
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: doing a lot of women that are responding in this
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: they're doing. I think if there's a lot of performance
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: going on and not a lot of it is actually genuine,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: but it's more like, oh, I want to fit in
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: with this group of women who are getting a lot
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: of attention online. Like there's like a meme. It's like
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: a it's like a female Wojack with pink hair and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: she's got like her finger on her mouth and she's saying,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: should I, like, you know, record myself freaking out and
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: post it online? And that I think that's what I think,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: that's what it is like. So I don't think that
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: because like, look, here's the thing. If you are with
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: someone and if you're in a relationship with somebody that
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you love or that you care about deeply. Odds are
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you share the same values? Like, that's why it doesn't
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: really make sense that like there was that ad that
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: was running for it where it was like Julia Roberts
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: trying to like convince women to vote against their husband's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: interests because obviously their husbands don't have their interests in
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: mind or something. It's like, no, that's not really the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: way normal people operate. Like, you know, Lindsay and I,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: we share most of the same values, if not all
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of the same values, and that's like any healthy relationship.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: So are women breaking up with their boyfriends over this?
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I doubt it. I think that they'll say that they're
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: doing it, but they don't have to like bring any
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: receipts to the table, or they don't have boyfriends, you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: or or whatever it is. Like they're like, I don't
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: think that's actually happening, and if it is, those boyfriends
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: should probably be signing, you know, a sigh of relief
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: because now they've learned what the quality of the women
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: in the life is so.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Exactly the God bullet. They're no longer having to invest
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: in women who have no interest in investing in them,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and how can a woman on the left at this point,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: like think about it. They are justifying their partner's adherence
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: to a political position that's overtly at email. I don't
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: even mean neutral because I'm like, you know, conservatives can't Okay,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: you know, they don't necessarily because they're not men's issues advocates.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: They're conservatives. They don't necessarily have this at the forefront.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: We do. They don't, you know, that kind of thing.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: But many cases they're more neutral about it, unless you're
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: talking about trans women, which you know that's another cannibal
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: of fish. But it's like, this is active antipathy to
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: eat men even identifying as men. When you look at
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the left and the lefts corpus of thought, I mean,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: they're the they left in a left aligned psychology has
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: developed this concept of masculine ideology, which turns actually identifying
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: as a man into a political position, which incidentally they
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: think is wrong.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: So it's like, how can you expect a man to adhere?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: It is people who hate them, right, It's actually really toxic.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: And if you're guys, if she's kicking you to the
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: curb because of that, I know it may be painful.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Now and maybe for a few years. But you don't
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: want that in your life, No, you don't. You're never
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: going to get what you want from a woman like that,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: and that is respect, love and desire, not true.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so anyway, uh, thank you for that. And
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: then I got the great Indoors gives us five bucks
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and says I'm sorry, but shaving your head bald or
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: in an edgy haircut was seemingly already a pretty popular
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: thing for women to do. Check out YouTube channel TA
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: seventy seven for the video thumbnails to see what I mean.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe later, but thank you for that. You know, we
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: know that. But like I think that, you know again,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: it's just this is I think it's mostly performative. I mean,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: they'll they'll do it like it's like because they got
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: nothing to do. But I think a lot of this
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: is women just trying to get attention in different ways.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: In fact, like the attention economy, which is basically what
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: social media and the Internet is, it's dominated by women
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and they're all approaching it from different vectors. And I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: think that Hannah Cox is just operating in another vector.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: She's she's virtue signaling libertarianism, which is probably like less
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: realistic than communism at this point because of how fucked
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: human nature is, especially female nature. So like, because you
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: know Karen who is probably one of the most hardcore
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: libertarians I know, she spoke at a libertarian conference or something,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and she said that if the libertarians are going to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: like of grow in terms of their validity, they're gonna
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: have to attract women. And the problem is, women, by
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: their very nature are not libertarian, so it's gonna be
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and and she was warning them, like, if you get
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: women involved in your movement, they're going to try to
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: change it to be not what you guys are aiming for.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I think that libertarianism at this point it's just another
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: virtue signal. It's just another way for people like Hannacocks
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: to sound smarter than everybody else. And there's really no
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: substance there. I'm sorry, but and I love I like
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: the idea, like like where I live.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Let me push back on that a bit. Okay, this
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: may I think this is a step towards recognizing men
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: like and and again, this is something that I think
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: men have to do for themselves, is to start to
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: develop their own platform right and their own personal interest
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: and like like I said that that whole exchange, and
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: then me realizing that this may be a situation where
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: men actually have more power than I ever thought, and
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: maybe they didn't think, but they have to actually get out,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: they have to vote, they have to understand their own interests,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: and they have to have no shame about advocating for them,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: no shame like none whatsoever. And maybe this whole situation
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: the Left becoming so verrently anti male. And the reason
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: why they're so verrently anti mail is because the only
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: thing left on the left is a threat narrative protecting
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the deep state, and a threat narrative needs a villain,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and that villain has to be men. And when you
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: create a villain out of men, you cannot recognize any
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: of their vulnerabilities because that destroys your threat narrative. So
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: it's like men need like that may be waking men
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: up to their own self interest, and you've got to
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: do it, like this is something men have got to
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: do for themselves. They've got to wake up to their
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: own self interest. Be shameless about it, be shameless and
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: advocating for it. You have every right to advocate for
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: your own self interest, every right and here's the other
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: thing they like this, Like, the Left not only is
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: overtly anti male, in my opinion, it's actually also anti
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: female at the end of the day. And I'm not
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: saying that this is more important than than be overtly misinterests.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: They don't care about women. They only care about framing
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: women in a way that supports their threat narrative, that
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: that uses them to basically form a fart shield around
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: their activities. That's it. They don't They're gonna they have
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: sacrifice men's, women's sense of well being, their sense of purpose,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: their sense of efficacy in their lives, any kind of
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: stable core that could allow them to overcome these mental
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: illnesses that they're increasingly having. Like that, that's what gets
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: you to overcome a lot of the mental health problems
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: that women have. The big thing, like, for example, a
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: borderline personality disorder, which I think is now epidemic among women.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: The big thing that borderline personality disorder people lack is
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: a stable sense of self. And you get that from
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: external standards that you're held to and that you strive for.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: You develop that from those things. And the Left strips
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: women of all all of the tools to maintain and
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: enhance and improve their mental health, starting with the recognition
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: that the very biggest causal factor, the biggest thing that
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: a woman can do to improve her likelihood of being
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: happy is settle down with a man. And then the
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: other thing that a woman can do to improve her
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: chance of being happy is to integrate men's ways of
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: knowing into her expression, Like being able to be stoic
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: when it's called upon, being able to look towards what
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you can do to improve your circumstance, when that's called
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: upon being able to see yourself in terms of your
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: achievements and your external standards. All of that is absolutely
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: important men's women's mental health. That's okay, I'm.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Trying to find the spot to like play it.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: They strip all of that from women, every single speck
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: of it, every single spec and they don't give enough
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: back to justify it at all. So I mean, yes,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: this is anti but this is the funny thing about
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: men and women. What you do to men, you eventually
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: do to women. Yep, And this is that. This is
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: where we're at. Okay, So let's let's listen to what
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Hannah Cox says.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to find the first time code
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: while you were talking. I wasn't. I wasn't trying to
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: be That wasn't a passive aggressive thing at all. No,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: it wasn't okay because no, no, no, that's that would
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: be that. I wouldn't do it that way. I would
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: just say, Allison, let's move on. I'm jumping ahead to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: where we get these reactions and get her reaction to
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the reactions. So here is some of the absolutely totally
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: sane and normal women responding to the Trump victory, which
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of this has to do with
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the fact that they have no idea that this was coming.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: But I got another super child at the last second
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: from Richard Bierre, who is this sponsor for this video?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Five dollars. If you sincerely believe that you are a
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: target for repression of violence, why would you do anything
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: to identify yourself to the rest of society that you
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: are a part of the targeted demographic. Something about being
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: compelled to wear certain symbols on armbands or pinned to
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: clothing as prescribed by a government doing the uppressing is
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: coming to mind. Do they believe that their special identifying
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: items will be completely invisible to everyone else and only
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: be seen by the like minded people. No, I think again.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's just another incarnation of attention seeking. So
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: now you're doing it in the real world. So if
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: you have one of the like a blue heart tattoo,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and another girl sees your blue heart tattoo and you, guys,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you get me. Like they have this fantasy about like this,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: you know, like this women rise up thing, you know,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: like like from The Handmaid's Tale, wasn't there like a
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: thing where the Handmaids rise up or something like? They're
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: they're just living in a young adult novel. That's what
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: it is. They're living in a young adult they and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: they're when they're ready to fight, like, you know, the
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: oppressive regime. And the truth is they just weren't prepared
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: for what happened because they were in a bubble and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: they have no concept of why things went the way
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: they went because they had they were listening to the
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: cathedral that was telling them over and over. They were
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: gasolt into believing these lies, and when it came out
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: this way, they're like, oh my god, the whole country
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: is evil. So anyway, let's get to the reactions.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Does someone tell me I can tell you one thing, right,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: now marriage is the farthest thing from on the table currently,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: So they really they screwed the pooch on that one.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Wait, like was it ever on the table for one?
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that it was. That's what I'm saying. Like,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: this is like you can it's easy to just be
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: like now I'm not going to date men. It's like, well, yeah,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: but you weren't dating them probably anyway, or at least
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: not seriously.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Also, okay, let me let me try to explain to
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: you guys the logistics of what's happening with men in
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: the dating sphere. Like I think two years and that
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: was a couple of years ago, ten percent of men
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: full ten percent of men in like a year and
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: a half decided to opt out of it, and it's
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: higher now it's probably much higher. Okay, so men are
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: opting out. The likelihood that you're going to get married
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: you is zero, and it's not going to be because
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: you did a strike. It's because it's not an option
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: for you anymore. Like seriously, that the men who remain
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: seeking a woman are not seeking you, like are they Yep?
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: They're yeah, I mean like essentially, it's like, thanks for
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: telling us but we already knew like that, you know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: like that she isn't.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Like she's she's boycotting somebody who's already on strike, like
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: they're already I'm not even interested.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, you know, I quit, No you're fired.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, I fired you like two years ago, lady,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: like the average man, I fired you too late years ago.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Now she's waking up and she's like, well I quit,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: it's too late.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna they're not gonna want to They're
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: not gonna desire the men who voted like in their
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: for their party like that. Yeah, it's not like you're
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: you know, if you were one of the well I
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: voted blue, baby, you know that's not gonna work for
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: you guys, Like they don't want that. Do you remember
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: the trucker protest. They're so they're so rugged.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that. I remember that. I could just
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: but that this woman was like in on two acts,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: She's like, oh, I just I just think about them
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: getting so sweaty and in their big.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're obviously Nazis, but they're so rugged.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I can't help thinking about how rugged they are and
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: how unwashed. I could wash their socks.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly by hand in the in the river. Anyway,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: let's uh, let's play some more. Is she well known?
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: No, that any of this was going to actually help
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: with the whole family and kids department and lowering birth
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: rates because that no, no, you guys.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Are having you were having sex, but you're having abortions
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: like that. You're the entire contingent that wants to raw
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: dog and then abord you're not having kids. That was
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: the point, wasn't it.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: He's holding something over men's heads that that that's not there.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: It was never there to begin with.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: It was never there to begin with. Just okay, before,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: like you know what, I it has floated out of
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: my mind.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: So let's which we get to the Hannah Cox's reaction.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: But I do want to play a couple of these
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: clips because you know, just to set.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Their tone and themselves. And the funny thing is the
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: worst reaction, Oh no, setting new lows.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I think I think the poison is probably the desire
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: to murder people and higher hitmen. That's the that's the
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: But you know what, I think this this is actually
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: like educational for people so that you can see like
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: people are probably looking at this and are like, holy shit,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: women are capable of some fucked up ship and we're like,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: yes they are, Yeah they are. How long? Yeah, al
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: mut pushback.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: You know what else? Women are capable of domestic violence
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: and sexual assault? Mm hmm, right degrees. Okay, let's let's
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: keep going.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: All right. I got a rumble rant from O I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: C for a dollar. Thank you didn't the women's try
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: this strike over two years ago after SCOOT has ruled
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: how to handle abortion. One would think that if it
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: didn't have a effect the first time, they wouldn't try
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: it again. Well, you know, even their their goddess Ruth
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Bader Ginsburg agreed with the decision, so you know. But anyway,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: let's play the.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Video temblance of thoughts I had or hope for that.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: It is completely gonna be a no thanks for me, love,
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: I think whatever.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Even congratulations you have tendered your resignation to a company
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: that fired you two years ago.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Like bring a child into this country? Now it was
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: rough before.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: Now, No, you were.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Your only issue that you voted on was not bringing
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: children into the country.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you voted on that, and now you're basically saying, well,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna have well, you were either going to
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: murder them or not have them to begin with. I
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: guess I go with the with the latter.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, if you're never to have sex to create
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: the children that you were originally going to abort, Yeah, this,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. The funny thing is that
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: this is I am pro choice, but the people who
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: are pro choice are the biggest argument for pro life.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest about that. Like, I believe that
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: this is something that should be very carefully thought about,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: you know, and and I think people should have the
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: right to be able to choose these things in their lives.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: But you guys are so trifling about this behavior, Like
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: you don't give it the gravitas it needs, and you've
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: turned it into some kind of virtue, and that is
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: freaking disturbing. I remember I got into an argument with
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: a person who and I said that I believe in
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: pro choice, but abortion is a necessary evil at best
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: at best, and they were like, oh, I can't believe that.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: It was like, okay, do you agree with me? And
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I was basically calling out pro choice people for not
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: recognizing that abortion is a necessary evil at best, and
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: that person was like, oh, I can't believe you would
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: say that about pro choice people. And I just asked
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: your point blank, do you consider it unnecessary? Evil? No answer?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: No. Remember when they used to say safe legal, Remember
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: when they used to say safe legal and rare like
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Bill Clinton said that, Ah, Pepperish Farm remembers. All right,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: nice reference, by the way.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: But okay, I remember, I remember the thought, the thought,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: The thought floated back into my consciousness. Okay, So, first
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: of all, she doesn't look very in these stills. You
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: often get the duper's delight smile again. You see that
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: mm hmm oh, she's so like that. That's some serious
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: crocodile tears. That she's crying. She's enjoying the fact that
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: she thinks she's doing something cruel, except she's screaming into
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: an empty stadium. I'm bullying you, and there's nobody in
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: the seats, nobody listening. You're bullying a non existent person
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: that cares. But anyway, what I was gonna say is
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: feminism the way that you actually win is by taking
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: feminist men and leftist men fucking their brains out and
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: having ten children with them. That's how you win. That's
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: how you win. The feminist future What you're doing is
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: making sure that feminism becomes a psychotic footnote that entire
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: religions form around avoiding. Okay, I'm just staying the idea ofists.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Don't even get know, don't even get me started about
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: dating to think I was still entertaining a few moderates
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: here and there. Sometimes, No, honey, no, not even close.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: That's never what you're entertaining with a few moderates. Sometimes. Okay,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: so you weren't. Actually it wasn't on offer. What you're
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: saying is that you let a moderate pay for a
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: food call foodie call.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: All right, let's play the next one.
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: I'm going to hold it you when I say this,
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: But did you make She said, I.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Like my coffee like I like my men. He made up.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: She made a cup of coffee and then poured it
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: into the sink, threw the cup down and gave it
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the finger.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Can I say that men? Take that incredibly stupid, childless metaphor.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, lady, you have cream in that coffee,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: You're you're not a real woman unless you drink it black.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: And this isn't even coffee, It's like, uh, what is it? Express? No?
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: What are you drinking. Is that espresso?
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like in this cup?
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have that. I use I used that
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: cup to drink tea at night for bad.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: But this is this is this is coffee. This is
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: the kind of coffee that actually has the consistency of
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: half and half cream.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Because yeah, for sure, for sure.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I think it's expresso, but it might be cap No,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: it's not cappuccino, Cappuccino Americano. No, I don't know.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's move on. I got a rumble rant,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: a big one. Thank you occupant forty two for a
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: twenty dollars rumble rant says, when you choose to engage
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: in something that can result in pregnancy, that is your
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: exercise of choice. You don't get to choose not to
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: deal with the consequences. Thank you, OCCU forty two. Yeah.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, like we have to face facts. That's the reality.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: So and people saying that you they don't want to
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: pay for your post conception abortion meth or sorry, post
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: conception birth control methods. Is not them controlling your body.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Is them controlling their own wallet.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's play some more. This is Hannah Cox.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: She says, Yeah, we get to Hannah Cox and she says,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I'm holding their hand when I.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: Say this, Making yourself physically unappealing is not going to
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: fix things politically. It's actually probably just going to make
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: you feel worse about yourself and further your mental health
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: issues that you are clearly experiencing. I am all for
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: pushing back on beauty standards when they are unrealistic or
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: when they are inauthentic to you, or that keep you
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: trapped on a consumerism treadmill. But I also know, as
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: much as people don't want to hear it, that ultimately
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: people tend to listen to and trust attractive people more
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: so if you want to organize.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Did think she's talking about herself a little bit there? Like,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: take it from an ex somebody who knows from personal
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: experience people listen to attractive people more. Is Anna Cox
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: throwing shade at these women?
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, so she doesn't really get that much deeper here,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: but I will say that what she is essentially saying
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: is that she's approaching this from the perspective of what
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: is expedient to these women, like what is going to
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: get them to the thing they want, which is essentially
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: just access to abortions, which they don't not have access
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: to now anyway, Like there's no there are no calls
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: for a federal band at any reasonable level. That Trump
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: had never had the intention of doing that. He always
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: wanted it to go to the states, just like most things.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: This is what it was supposed to be, you know,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: not a big federal thing. We knew that Roe v.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Wade was bad law anyway, it needed to be overturned.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Like I said before, Ruth Bader Ginsberg herself said this
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: is bad laws, it's not sustainable, and sure enough it
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: went away. And I think that what these women are
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: doing is essentially just throwing tantrums. They're like children have.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: If you've ever been a child, or been with somebody
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: who has kids, and you go to a department store
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: and you and you avoid the toy section. This is
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: when toys were cool, and or your child or the
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: child will throw a tantrum if you don't buy them
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the whatever toy they want. And that's what these women
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: are doing. They're throwing tantrums because they want access to
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: something that they may never even actually use, they never
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: actually exercise it. But they can't stand the idea that
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: anybody else is having an opinion on it, and they're
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: throwing tantrums, and Hannah Cox is treating it like a legitimate,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: like you know, political position that they should be fighting
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: for and that they're just going about it the wrong way.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: So she's essentially arguing from a kind of like consequentialist
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: perspective as opposed to saying, well, why don't we try
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: to understand why things went this way and explain to
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: these women that maybe this isn't as bad as you
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: think it is. Like, you know, if it's just been
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: sent back to the States and you don't like the
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: way your state has laws, then maybe you should relocate
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: because that approach has always been the United States from
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: local governance, yeah, or or try to get it changed
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: in your local government. But like, you know, cutting off
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: your nipples and shaving your head and like covering yourself
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: in tattoos and yelling and screaming and crying and throwing
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: coffee is not going to actually affect policy. It just
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: makes you look like a child.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But Brian, actually making an effort on the local
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: level or in your personal life to go where you
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: have local support, that's taking responsibility for yourself you know
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: that's that's just for men and oppressed people, you know,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: not for women. Okay, let's keep going.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: M hmm, all right, let's play some more.
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: And I if you want to build coalitions, if you
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: want to lobby for or against legislation, you don't have
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: to be like the most beautiful person in the world,
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: but you do kind of need to be presentable. You
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: do have to look like you groom daily and that
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: you aren't crying in that shower while you groom.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Like truly, I.
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: Do not understand how these women think they are hurting.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: What trifling bullshit is this?
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: It's kind of a it's kind of weird, isn't it?
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Like kind of like this is That's what I'm saying.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Like she's not talking about you're having the subject. She's
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: talking about the way the women are reacting.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I'm almost inclined to defend these women, like.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, can we can we.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Analyze their actual position? Do we have to analyze their
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: lack of I don't know, well.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: They're not even really like they're just saying things like
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna shave my head or I'm gonna put up
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: like if if they're if already they're already doing that,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: then they're already kind of like they already have problems,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like if you're already at
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: the point where you're like, I'm gonna shave my head,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a tattoo, I'm gonna i'm gonna stop
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: bathing like that, they already have issues that need to
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: be worked out before this, Like this is just pushed
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: them over the edge in some way, you know what.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I don't even think Hannah Cox is really ready for
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: the implications of this election, because if I'm right, and
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I think like a lot of people are noticing this,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: we're seeing the very first time, like genuinely that men
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: are deciding an election and there.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Are women supporting them too, and there are.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Women supporting them. Yeah, and like the idea of a
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: collective awakening of men, they won't need to have to
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: appeal or even think about appealing to women like Hanna Cox.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: And honestly, I think that men should think about this
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: because do you find do you think women find a
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: man who is constantly chasing their bullshit attractive or a
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: man who says, no, this is what needs to happen,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to make it happen, which do you
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: think me women find more attractive at the end of
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: the day, Ignore the thirty to I don't know forty
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: eight percent of women who are having a hysterical meltdown.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Keep doing what's right for your society, for your culture,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: for your country, and I include all of the West
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: in that. Keep pushing this and realize that your self
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: interest is everyone's self interest. I know this sounds really
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: maybe contradictory, but what men what in my opinion, what
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: men want is they want a meritocracy. They want a
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: healthy meritocracy, to compete within the great pro social status,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: to cooperate, to build. And in the end of the day,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: why do they want that so that they can give
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: it to women? Right, so that they can make women
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: a part of it. Right? And that's that's the thing.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: It's like until until women actually demonstrate and maybe they
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: are now, maybe they are in this election, actually demonstrate
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: that they are going to protect and provide for men
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: the way same way that men protect and provide for women.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: We need a system that acknowledges that isn't the case.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying we need and and like
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: I said, you know, men, your well being. You can
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: put it first, you have the right, and not only
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: do you have the right, I think at the end
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: of the day, it's going to make everybody better, right, Like,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: your desire to compete is a good thing. Your ability
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: to compete and cooperate at the same time is why
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: we have a civilization in the first place, you know,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: And I don't think that like, but to bring it
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: back to the topic of Hanne Cocks, I don't think
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: she's ready for a world in which men have to
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: be appealed to politically, and men's interests, men's values, men's principles,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: what men need to actualize themselves, that that has to
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: be appealed to politically. I don't think she's ready for
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: that world because she still thinks she's setting the agenda. Yes,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: and that's I think that's really what needs to stop
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: is the idea that women are the ones who set
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: the agenda. At the very least, men hold up half
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: the sky, so they should have half the agenda. And
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: believe me, they've had less than half for how long,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: well most of human history really. But anyway, let's keep going.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: All right, let's keep going. Here we go, Hold on a.
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: Second, anybody but themselves with this plan, anybody but themselves,
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: and also largely female business owners, because if you're striking
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: against the beauty industry, it is mostly owned and operated,
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: often at the local level, by women. And the irony
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: here is that by trying to hurt the economy in
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: this way, they're just continuing to miss the mark on
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: what drove people to support Trump in the first place.
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: In response to the video of the.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Cooks, weirdly irrelevant, but go ahead, go ahead, you go no,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's got a point, like she did. They're
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: they're cutting off their nose. Despite their they're actually harming women,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: and honestly, like that's true when women do go on
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: these strikes, they are it's almost like the the protests
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: George Floyd protests in which they burnt down their own neighborhoods.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, that's a good point, and yeah, okay,
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: that's all I wanted to say.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Well it is, but it is. It is a little
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: bit rich that she said earlier in this very same
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: video that she doesn't like agree with, you know, unrealistic
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: beauty standards and consumerism, and then goes, well, why aren't
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you buying makeup, like it's like, what, I don't know,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: it's a bit weird to me, A bit weird. It
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: is weird, you know, it's a bit weird. And also
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't really hear like I don't I don't think
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: it's this is like a symptom that you're talking about.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: It's not really the important part. But okay, mm hmmm.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: A girl claiming she's not going to paint her nails anymore.
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: I loved this comment that said, wait, so, how is
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: not having your nails done affecting anything? Like the logic
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: is not strong here, And another person said I can't
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: begin to count the nail appointments I've canceled under this
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: administration and economy because I couldn't afford it. Looking forward
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: to getting my nails done and a chiro adjustment next year,
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: Like woosh, the point goes right over their head. People
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: largely voted for Trump because they were economically desperate.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: All right, can I just say about I know we're
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: not suppsed to talk about Trump, don't can to talk
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: about Trump, but it is also really interesting that these
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: women are talking about some of the most luxurious shit
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: that they're going to like miss or enjoy. In the
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: and and and, Hanna Cox is saying people did they
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: voted because they were economically desperate? Well, yes, but also
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: it just was the right thing for most people, like
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: like closing, Like the immigration effects the economy, right, inflation
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: effects the economy. Where we get our energy effects the economy.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: People wanted to be able to afford things. It's not
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: like they're economically desperate, so they went for the hail
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Mary pass and they elected the guy that's like the
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: worst for whatever reason. No, they they looked at what
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: was practical and pragmatic. This guy's gonna help us, has
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: our interests in mind. This other person is interested in
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: funding foreign wars and throwing our money all over the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: place except for where it needs to be thrown, which
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: is you know, like maybe let us keep more of
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: our own shit. And like and and these women are like,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: oh oh man, my nails, though it's like what about
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: my food?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: You know, these none of it had to do with misogyny,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: but that's one of them. It's completely like the left
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: makes it or the threat Narrative party makes it about
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: misogyny because that's the only thing they have because they
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: really are about subjugating the minority subjecting the majority, like
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: this minority of deep state or what did Karen call it,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: not association state.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I've been to the administrative state. Minority of this bureaucracy.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Bureaucracy like it's like toxic bureaucracy. And they are using
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: this women as a threat narrative in order to defend
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: their own interests. That's all it is, like that, they're
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: just this is the lie that they're hiding behind. And
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: you can see what. Look at the campaign on the
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: other side, why people are voting for Trump. It's because
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: of the economy, it's because of the wars, it's because
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: of the emergency response that was pathetic. Okay, it's because
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: the government doesn't appear to have the interests of its
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: own citizens at heart, because again it is become a
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: bureaucratic aristocracy subjugating everyone else. This has nothing to do
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: with men and women thefts the left makes it that
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: way because they have no moral no moral foundation, no
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: moral platform to stand on. And what's interesting is that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: she's not going to cover were the really extreme and
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: psychotic reactions of women. Now, oh oh, so I was right.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't actually watch this. Brian watched this and sorry spoilers, guys,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: she's only going to cover the ones who are like,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get my nails done.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Well, she does go into the she does go into
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: the four B movement. That's probably about about as extreme
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: as it gets. Let's let's go that that's coming up. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: that's actually coming right up here. We're seven fifty seven.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's like one. I think it's it's it's
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: very close.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Now we don't cover the whole freaking video because it's
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: too long.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we're just gonna do the four B thing.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: I think that's there's like one other section that might
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: be okay.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: And they have said as much for like two three years.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: Democrats just didn't care. They did not care about the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: working class people. They did not care that people were
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: hurting in their economy. They just kept trying to gaslight
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: them and tell them, no, the economy is great, the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: economy is great. What are you talking about, you racist?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: It didn't work, It was never going to work, and
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: it's so ironic.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess they called it racist, but I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: think more than that, they called it misogynist.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, they did. It was she said, working class people.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: She doesn't say men. I think it's mostly men. Honestly,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: it's not just men. It's like fathers of families that
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: are trying to provide, you know.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Can I just put something out there? And maybe I'm
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: completely wrong, Guys watch her video and decide for yourselves.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: But it's almost like she's playing a bit of what
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: is the right word for it, She's caping a little
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: bit to try to smooth out or reduce the fact
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: of how like how much the left pushed this men
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: versus women narrative, see what I'm saying.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure, So it's a shell game for sure,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: because that is like they did use all the other
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: identity politics stuff, but the misogyny was the most powerful move.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: And the truth of it is is because they knew
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: that the first of all, the majority of the population
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: is female. Second of all, women were at the time
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: way more likely to go out and vote. Thirdly, they
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: were also easier to sort of propagandaize and gaslight into
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: voting in their own best interests. Men less, so they
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: were less less enthusiastic about voting. There are fewer of them,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: so like generally like women kind of like have mostly
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: made the decisions about these sort of political moves and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: they knew that, and so like when it didn't look
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: like it was going to go that way, they shamed men,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: and I mean they shamed men hard. We went through
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: several campaigns that they had where they were like, you know,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Barack Obama came out, shamed the black men, They shamed like,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: you know, all of them, and now the all of
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: the men, Latinos especially, you're welcome came out and they said, no,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: we're not doing this anymore. Sick of your shit. That's it.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: And now they're like they're still attacking men. I mean
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: now they're the mask is all the way off because
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: they've lost, so they might as well.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: What are black people doing TikTok saying I'm not going
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: to serve white people in the restaurant, or like I'm
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: not going to approve a white person's loan in a bank.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: There are I'm going to start giving I'm going to
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: start poisoning white people. Are black people doing this?
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: No, it's women a little, it's women, it's women, but
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: black women too, black women too.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: But are they doing it towards white people? Are they
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: doing it towards black men?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: No, they're doing it to men. They're doing it, do.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 7: It to men.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: So the insanity the the end result of all of this,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Like we've seen this this this election, and where is
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: the insanity afterwards? And what is it directed at? It's
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: from these women and I have to say these. I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: can finally say these because this is apparently as a
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: minority of women. It actually genuinely is a minority of
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: women are directing it at men.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: That's kind of nice to know, though, is it, Alison?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: It's like women's term online women at.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Least half of women have some sanity left. But yes,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: they're actually recognizing that the left isn't voting for their
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: interests because the left only uses women as part of
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: their passion play about how men have destroyed the world,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: you know. And the thing is that again, this is
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: what I'm seeing, what demographic is going ape shit and
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: directing their hatred towards what other demographic this election happened.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: These women are are a god threatening, abusing, engaging in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: this nasty rhetoric towards men. What it doesn't matter, Like
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: we can, like the reight, the right and everybody who
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: voted for the right can say, ah, this is all
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: says nothing to do with gender. Oh, but it seems
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: it does for this. For the category of people that
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: supports the insanity that you're fighting against, they very much
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: see it in terms of gender, and they very much
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: see it in terms of women against men more than
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: anything else, more than any other category. And they even
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: see the trans issues as women against men because they
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: see trans women as women, and everybody who posts them
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: is men. That encourags, who includes turfs that hate men
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: and want to reduce them to ten percent. The people
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: on the left, the women on the left, see those
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: women as men. It's all women against patriarchy, all right.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: So I got a rumble. I got a super chow
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: okay cool from Anonymous who gives us fifteen dollars and says,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I love listening to Alison Godberzerk beast Mode years ago,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: and I learned a lot as a former feminist. Now
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I watch the Badgers for Brian going berserk and yelling
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: and frustration. Right one is the one Badger right now
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: who is saying things that I don't already know, and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: he makes me rethink my beliefs, especially the last few years.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Sorry Alison and Hannah, but Brian's insights make the podcast
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: refreshing and exciting right now, I guess men are just
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: better at everything. Well, look, I didn't know he was
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: gonna go there, So I'm sorry, I'm I'm but thank
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: you for the super Child nonetheless.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: So all right, Well it's fine. I mean a lot
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: of times I get a lot of compliments on my
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: insight the uh so it's fair to have. Everybody has
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: their favorites, right, Some people really like Karen. A lot
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: of people really like Karen. Some people really like Hannah.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: So it's fine that that there is.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Everybody got their favorites.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone their favorites. It doesn't matter as long as
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: you tune in and listen, because.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I know mine. Mine is doctor Randamer Camp. He's my favorite.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my favorite, Brian. My father's favorite is doctor
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: random Er Camp. Okay, so this guy is like my favorite?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Is I love hanging out with Mike. I'm so sorry
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: that he didn't come out to the meetup because I
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: was looking forward to just hanging out with him and
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: singing songs. That's it, ye, songs with Jojo and but like, yeah,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: I mean he ran into some problems.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, well I'm just saying, like dude who
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: put in this. Yeah beat my father having a favorite
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: that isn't me.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Although you know, I gotta say, like, if going back
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: real quick to that free speech thing that Trump put
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: out that video, if that happens, like and it's not
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: only like because it just sounds too good to be true,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Like Lindsay was tearing up at it, but uh, if
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: he can get the deep the Department of Homeland Security
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: off our ass and that we're like we're able to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: like remonetize our content, Like Mike should have a million
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Mike should have a million subscribers. He like, like he's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: like so talented, you know. Yeah, so maybe I don't know.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: On the other hand, like he's also a little bit
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: I think he's really rarefied because he's so brilliant. People
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: tend to like, you know, average person tends to like
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: bitch schlocky stuff.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he does the it's the music that I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: think that his music is what will.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Put him Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, if if this
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: can she Lindsey really liked that speech too. I like
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: the speech from what I should She thought.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: She felt that it was very genuine and I I mean, like, look,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: whether or not it's going to happen. I think that
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter because we know that this is
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: the essentially it's like, okay, i'll put it. I'll put
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: it like this. It's being a Christian is difficult because
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: the standard that you have to meet is extremely high.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: It's basically impossible, right you want to live as much
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: like Christ or marry as possible, you know, whether you're
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: a man or a woman. But if you know the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: direction you're aimed, it makes a big difference. It actually
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: makes a world of difference because you know now what
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: you're where your guiding star is at, what your direction is.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: So sometimes when somebody just says, this is what I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: want to do, and this is why even if it
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: seems lofty, even if it seems impossible, the fact that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: they they are pointed in the right direction, I think
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: makes all the difference in the world. You know, Like
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: this is like like Paul said, when I sat down
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: with Paul and I never got around to it, he
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: said that one of the things he really appreciated about
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: us is our authenticity. That we weren't playing a character.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: We're not doing a bit. You know, when I sit
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: here and then some of the people who met us
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: at the meetup said, you know, these are the same
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: people that you see online, because that that is I
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: don't know how to do somebody else. I don't know
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: how to play a character. Yeah, that's what I appreciate.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: What the character's Raven Moon Dragon.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I can't do characters. Sometimes they do impressions for fun.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: But but but my point is is that like, you know, uh,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: we should totally do I think that that was authentic
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: and I think that it's I think.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: That it does strike. We should totally do it. It's
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: gonna totally it's gonna totally get men to care about
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: what we have to say and think of us as
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: serious people that actually have more to you mike my mouth,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: my mouth, my join to give me as mysterious person.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Like seriously, I'm not.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Going to give you my couch until you do, I
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: stop listening. I don't need your coach. I have plenty
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: of I have all the coach, the greatest coach, the
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: best coach, huge coach. Anyway, I got another. So thank
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: you Anonymous for that. I appreciate it. I thought somebody
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: else said, oh yeah, Richard Pierre gave us five dollars
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: and says getting excited to see the Gavin Newsom and
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitney you mean Whitmer ticket for the twenty twenty
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: eight Democratic campaign. Well, I think they are. They might
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: be doubling down, but it's too soon. Let's not get
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  Speaker 1: into that right now. Let's just like just enjoy our
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: w great Indoors says for five dollars, clear throat experts
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: say that women sandwiches are safe and effective. Any information
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: hinting saying otherwise is clearly being misogynistic and should not
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  Speaker 1: be trusted. And quote poison ivy, Yes, the Batman one.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to get into the two four
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  Speaker 1: B thing. So let's let's check that out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's check that out.
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  Speaker 6: People continue to somehow believe their own bs that they
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: are like the champions of the working class.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're not.
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  Speaker 6: You won't even listen to them when they tell you
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  Speaker 6: that they're suffering. Instead, you just keep pushing your socialist
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  Speaker 6: craft agenda because that's what you actually care about, and
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: it hurts people. It's not hard to know that you
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: can study every single time any percentage of socialism has
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: been attempted and watch it hurt people. Okay, you're not
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: a bleeding heart if you refuse to learn economics.
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  Speaker 2: Period.
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  Speaker 6: Capitalism is what helps poor people. Socialism hurts them. And
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: even if you refuse to accept it. And even if
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: the people don't understand economics, they know that it sucks
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 6: when they're experiencing it.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: The ABC's and libertarianism, oh hey, thanks for that. Did
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: you guys know Did you guys know that capitalism is
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: better than social Do you guys know that? I did
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  Speaker 1: not know that. I just learned that. Anyway, let's listen more.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Now we're getting to.
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  Speaker 2: The four beast all right, let's get into the four
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: beastuff and then let's move.
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  Speaker 6: And they're going to pick the closest option they can
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: get to go in the other direction. And that's what
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: Trump provided. Not full throated capitalism by no means. That's
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: why I've never supported him. But it's a hell of
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: a lot closer than whatever the crap it was the
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: DNC was offering. Aside from the very bizarre decisions to
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: destroy their own looks, the anger at men in these
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: videos is wild. For the record, only about fifty five
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: percent of men voted nationally for Trump, compared about forty
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: five percent of men. So yeah, like men swung for Trump,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: but it wasn't in just like crazy numbers and number
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: two people had two options, only two.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: I am so sick of all of these idiots coming
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: online and pretending like because the masses voted for Trump,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: that all means that they adore Trump and are in
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: lockstep with him and are co signed to the worst
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: parts of his ideas and his agenda. That is so
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: naive and stupid.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: It's willfully uneducated. That wait, where's the I thought the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: four B thing was like right here, I got to
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: move up and find it. No, it's all right, you
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: need a moment to just and left.
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  Speaker 6: You can't control the rest of the country.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Well, uh no, I'm just you know. The thing is
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: that Annaconas doesn't realize is that it doesn't matter that
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: only a slight majority voted that way. These women don't
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: think any men should vote that way like that, like
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: like that's what I'm saying, Like, the the entitlement is
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: through the roof, Allison, you dropped your Sorry, that.
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  Speaker 2: Was entirely my fault. I hit the wrong butt.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, So yeah, I mean, like it's it's really
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: all it is is that the women. It's not that
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: only a slight majority of men voted that way. The
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: women have a problem with any men voting that way.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: It should have been one hundred percent in the tank
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: for Harris, Like, that's what because the women believe that
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: you're either on their side, which means you're still in
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: their good graces and you're not a monster, or you
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: are the devil. So let you those are your two choices.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: Country by picking their primary candidate that we all then
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: have to live with. Get smarter, good lord, I am fed.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Up this week.
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  Speaker 6: If you actually listen to the vast majority of men
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: talk about what attracted them to Trump. It is not
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: because they are racist, who disenfranchise them. It's coming from
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: a place of economic desperation, all men and oft into.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: The four beef.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna have to define the four be movement
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: for you guys.
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  Speaker 1: I'm all right, sure.
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  Speaker 6: It is an extremely online conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So she's okay, So she essentially covers the four
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: B movement also, like the I'm just looking at the
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: transcript right now. So she has a woman with a
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: cat in or couch and says my part as an
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: American woman. I'm doing my part is an American woman
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: of breaking up with my Republican boyfriend last night and
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: officially joining the four B movement this morning. I don't
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: think so well, but you know what, lady, good for you.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Now he's freed up to find a woman who actually
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: is sensible because a Republican boyfriend like that's if that
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: actually exists. I don't think he's losing much. And then
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: the next one is at twelve. Now I'm going to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: have to define the four B movement.
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  Speaker 1: For you, guys. Well, fourteen is where I'm at.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, do you want to go with that?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Then? Yeah, yeah, we'll start from here, played from here station.
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  Speaker 6: But here's a quick summary. The four BAB movement is
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: a feminist movement from South Korea that emerged around twenty
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  Speaker 6: nineteen as a response two traditional gender expectations and a
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: highly patriarchical society.
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  Speaker 1: No forwardjected, Oh you don't think it is, but but
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  Speaker 1: Hannah Cox said, so, she's the reasonable feminist movement with
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: obvious or response to my gender roles and misogyny from
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: in South Korea. It's really bad, guys, Yeah, South Korea,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: South Korea said to Saudi Arabia, hold my uh you know,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: chai tea, let me hold my fu.
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  Speaker 2: This is retarded.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, like.
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  Speaker 2: The entire narrative of patriarchy is the problem. It's why
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: the left does what it does. It's like patriarchy is
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: the poison that was seated everywhere to make women, you know,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: respond to the threat narrative that they that they use
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: to try to hide their activities. Now right, that's that's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: that's where it starts. If you if you want to
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: stop this ship, kick out patriarchy, kick it out. The
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: whole concept of it of men constructing a society for
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: their own benefit at the expensive women. Really, men have
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: constructed a society for their own benefit at the expensive women.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: And yet throughout human history, men's role has been the
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  Speaker 2: one that died more often, that had to do the
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: more destructive and dangerous things. And it's really strange. But
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  Speaker 2: when I look throughout history, even going back to like
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: for example, ancient Rome, men would hire people to carry
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: their wives while they walked beside them. Is that really is?
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Is that really the characterization between a slave owner and
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: a slave The slave owner hires a cart to carry
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: their slaves while they walk, not not like a cart
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  Speaker 2: with a you know, like I mean, like somebody who
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: a you know like, hires away like that so that
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  Speaker 2: their slave can walk, can ride in comfort while they walk.
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  Speaker 2: And over and over and over and over again, you
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: see this behavior of men being conciliatory towards women's comfort.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the situation that feminists characterized as men
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: oppressing women. No, look at the historical norms. There was
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: always an expectation that men serve women's comfort and make
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  Speaker 2: sure women are protected and provided for to the expense
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: of men themselves. This patriarchy shit is shit. It is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely and even if I you know what I'm getting
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: into the I am, I am falling into the trap.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what trap I'm falling into. I
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: am trying to disprove something that has never been proven.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: Feminist patriarchy has never been proven. In fact, it has
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: never even taken the first step of being framed in
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: a way that could be proven true or false. It
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: is completely conjecture. It's completely somebody just scribbled some shit
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: down on the napkin once. That's how scientific it is.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: It could be I think the world is actually constructed
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: by gnomes drawing it every thirty second, every thirty times
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: a second. It is completely unscientific. It is so unscientific
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: it corrupts the entirety of the scientific community with its
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: presence in academia. This is absolute shit. You don't even
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: have to prove it wrong because it has never been
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: proven true. It has never even been framed in a
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: way that could be proven true or false. It is
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: so wrong it is not even wrong, okay, is it is?
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: It is beyond wrong. And the fact that she is
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: using it as a debate item gives power to the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: people who use this crap to construct the threat narrative
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: to defend themselves, the deep state. I'm just gonna use
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: the word deep state because I can constantly fumble Karen's phrasing.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: The deep state using this threat narrative, the patriarchy threat
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: narrative to defend itself. You are giving You are giving
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: them that, Hannah, You are caping for them, well but
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: appearance for them.
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  Speaker 1: But Hannah Cox believes in patriarchy though she is a believer,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Like she just thinks that well, I don't know, like
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: somehow libertarianism will be a solution to that or something like.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: But she does believe in patriarchy, like he you know,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like, I don't think this is
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: a serious person. You think is a person that knows
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: where her butter is or her bread is buttered.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Weapon the state uses to expand itself.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Yes it does. That's true.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: This is the primary weapon. Every other weapon is secondary.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Civil Rights uh Trans writes, every other weapon is secondary
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: to the feminist patriarchy conjecture as a weapon, it uses
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: it to expand itself because it's always, oh, women need help,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: women need to be saved from men and men's choices,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: which when you l analyze it actually look like women's choices.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: You know, this is what the state uses to expand
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: itself and protect itself. So if the moment the word
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: patriarchy comes out of your mouth, you're a statist. Shut
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: the fuck up. You're not a libertarian.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: Ugh mm hmm.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, that was definitely me taking a side. I apologize what.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: No, she isn't a libertarian, okay.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: Action central to the movement's philosophy rejecting dating men, marriage,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: sex with men, and having children. Proponents of four BE
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: advocate for women's autonomy, seeing these choices as a means
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: to avoid traditional structures they argue often lead to an
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: equality and oppression for women in South Korea. The movement
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 6: empowers women by promoting independence from the pressures of traditional
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 6: heterosexual relationships and family obligations. Though popular with many younger
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 6: women seeking control of their lives, the Forbe movement has
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: sparked debate. Critics argued that its principles can be overly
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: radical yeah, possibly alienating those who might still want traditional
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 6: relationships with men but advocate for equality within them. Others
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 6: raise concerns about the sustainability of the foreby lifestyle and
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: whether it addresses the root causes of gender inequality. Despite
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 6: the controversies, the FOREB movement has influenced broader discussions on feminism.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: Movement is women deciding that equality fails, Like if you
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: if what you're doing is you're doing a sex strike
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: in a society. And so, as far as I can tell,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: South's Korea actually has is progressive in a lot of ways,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: at least when it comes to women's rights.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: I got, yes, Well, it is basically like it's it's
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: very it's pretty woke over there, like at least, but
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: it is like within its own culture, so you know,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: like the Far East societies are relatively homogeneous, south Korea
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: being one of them. I don't think that's bad, but
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: like that is the fact of it, because of the
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: language and culture. But yeah, it's it's a pretty liberal society,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: definitely more so than North Korea. But what the here's
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: the irony. Though North Korea has better birth rates than
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: South Korea does, South Korea's got the lowest birth rates
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: in the world, I believe, and it is basically at
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: an unsustainable level. I wouldn't be well, I wouldn't be
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: surprising that the four B movement didn't have some impact
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: on that. And the thing is too, is that they
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: want to bring that here of I want to say
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: something about that later, but go ahead, Allison.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, North Korea is breeding more than South Korea. What
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: does that say about the future viability of the more
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: progressive South Korea? You, ladies, you're just screwing yourselves, or
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: you're not screwing yourselves. You're not screwing anymore. But your
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: first the future generation of women, because if the cultures
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: that give women rights cannot breed, they will disappear and
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: they will be replaced by cultures that don't period. You
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: are just making sure that this is a footnote that
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: giving women rights as you saw it. Like, I'm pretty
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: sure that this is completely a fractured and stupid narrative
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: to use. But you're essentially saying that the culture that
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: actually complies with you, actually granted your right to vote
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: and all of the other things that you hold deer,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: you are not going to see perpetuate into the future,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: and in fact, it will be replaced by all the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: cultures that didn't. Congratulations be cut.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: For the record, congratulations and for the record. North Korea's
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: birth rates are also really low, so low in fact,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: that Kim Jong un had to deliver a tearful speech
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: begging women of North Korea to have babies. Yes, the
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: super authoritarian, crazy ass rocketman dictator still had to basically
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: bend the need of women and ask them to please
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: have babies. It's almost like, at the end of the day,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: women are ultimately the gatekeepers to reproduction and they're the
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: ones that make the decisions about that, even in a
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: country like North Korea.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at the Norse. Uh, I know
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: this is a real segue. Look at like the Norse
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: not mythology, but the legends you know, there was I
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: think it was Brunehild, No, Grunhild, Grner or Grinner, No, no,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: it was it was somebody else beyond that. I don't
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: know her exact name, but it was the saga of
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: the whole song, so you can look it up. She
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: essentially was married off to Attila, and they think that
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: might have been Attila the Hunt. But he she was like,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not I don't want to get married to you.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: And if you marry me, because you killed my my brother,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna take I'm gonna kill our children.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what she'd did, you know, And she
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: completely ended his line be out of an act of revenge.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: But I mean there's sort of a message there. Yes,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: you know, there has to be consent from women to
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: actually perpetuate your your species, which is why everybody gave you, you, ladies,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: all the rights you wanted, and then you around and
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: what do you you gave us other rights? We're going
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: to thank you by totally destroying the society that gave
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: us rights. Well, congratulations, you played yourself all right, all right?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, quality and is often seen as part of
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: a larger shift in South Korea's feminist landscape. So now
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: you have a bunch of American women saying that they
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 6: are going to opt into the four B movement because
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: Trump won and they want to punish men for that.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: And one weird thing I observed is the number of
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: women in their comments being like, Oh, I guess I'm
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: already in it. Guess I'm already in it. I've been
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: doing this for a long time. And it kind of
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: made me laugh because it's sort of just like the
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: foil to the in cell movement, the involuntary celibate movement,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 6: except these women are claiming it's by choice, But I'm like,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 6: how much is it by choice if you've already accidentally
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: been doing it?
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: With new agenda? Again, she's flexing on other women. It's funny, uh,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: but also she gets again it's like these these this
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: woman keeps getting it wrong. The in cells are not
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: a movement. What are the goals, Hannah? What's the agenda?
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: Can you show me the INCEEL manifesto, show me what
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: the list of demands is that they have, Like, what's
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: what are they moving towards? I mean, they have frustrations,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: they air their grievances, and I and it's completely an understandable,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: but like, they're not a movement. The four B is
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: a movement. And here's the thing I wanted to say
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: about the movement that I thought was that the four
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: B thing that these women are doing. I think she's
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: gonna show some videos though maybe so I'll see. No,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: I think she's just like talking about it. So here's
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: the thing that I think is really interesting about this.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: So when the election was coming up and the Dems,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: the left made it all about abortion, and that was
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: like the only thing to talk about was abortion, abortion. Abortion.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: Part of it was to distract from the you know,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Israel Palestine thing because that was a losing issue for
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: the left as well, since they didn't know what side
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: to take because you're either going to be Islamophobic or
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: you know, anti Semitic, and that was like like a
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: losing battle. So they were like, okay, okay, roe v
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Wade remember roe we wade. Yeah, ladies, they're going to
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: control your bodies handmade sales coming all that.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: Right, So, well, that's sort of a coincidence that they
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: went back to men versus women again. Correct, Well, yeah.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: They they did, but I mean that was like an
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: easier thing to lean on, is what I'm saying. And
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: it's also like a more relatable issue because you know,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: the Middle East for Americans pretty far away, we're pretty
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: far removed from that. We don't really you know, the
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: most average normy voters are not thinking about that. They're
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: looking at their you know, they're looking at their grocery bill,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: they're looking at how much the gas costs, they're looking
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: at the border. And so they had to make it
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: more closer to home in order to make an impact.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: And the discussion was on one side, you had, you know,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: the people who were looking at those those things I
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: just said. They were worried about they were worried about
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: the southern border. They were worried about inflation. They were
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: worried about, you know, the cost of gas and the
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: cost of energy and like the cost of living, and
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: they wanted these things addressed. And that was like all
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: of these and you know, to some degree, they were
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: concerned about foreign wars. They didn't want, especially the men
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to end up getting like sent off
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: to fight in World War three, which we've been on
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: the brink of for some months now. With all kinds
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: of conflicts heating up all over the world, and the
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: men were looking at those things, and I think that
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: those are reasonable things to look at. On the other side,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: there was just abortion.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: That was it.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: And so the women were like, well, we're we want abortions.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: And it's like, so, you don't care about the southern border.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: You don't care about illegal immigration, you don't care about
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: the Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment complexes. You don't care
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: about like the crime rates going way up. You don't
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: care about the fact that gas is like twice the
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: price it was four years ago. You don't care about
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: the fact that groceries are super expensive. You know, you
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: only care about like the possibility that maybe someday you
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: might need to get an abortion and that for whatever reason,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: no one's gonna let you, and it's going to lead
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: to the Handmaid's tail. And women were saying that they
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: would essentially vote to destroy the country just to get
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: back at men. And that was like that was literally
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: literally on the docket. We covered it in videos before
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: we covered it on here, with people, you know, like
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Lauren Southern supposedly, you know, intellectual centrists that were like
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: cat turd said something edgy on Twitter and now we
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: should destroy everything with our vote because we have the vote.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: And now that men, well, it didn't work because men
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: were like uh huh, and other women were like, you
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: guys are crazy, and so they voted against it. So
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: now they're gonna do it. They're still gonna do it.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: They're just gonna do it by saying, well, we're just
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: gonna tank the reproduction rates. And that's actually it's funny
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: because that's what this thing about the four b and
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: like women saying, oh, we're not gonna give you any
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: coucie anymore, and like you're not gonna get laid anymore. Whatever.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: It is. Essentially, it's like the only way to get
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: women to abstain. And but it's not just that, but
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: also Manifestel's video is about the same thing. It was
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: about Elon Musk saying, you know, you know, we're having
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: problems with birth rates. It's not gonna be any humans,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: and Manifestel's like, I don't care as long as you
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna make babies until you make our lives better,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: is what she basically said. And it's like, yeah, but
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: without people, you can't make like shit's gonna fall apart
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: because there's nobody running any everything because there's no people
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: like So it's just funny because ultimately women's solution was
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: before the election, we'll vote to destroy everything, and now
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: after election, we're just going to destroy everything anyway in
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: to the degree that we can. And it's again it
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: goes back to what I said, it's a a child
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: throwing a tantrum in the toy department at kmart because
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: you didn't buy them the lego they wanted.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, okay, are we Does she actually make commentary
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: on four B at all?
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: I think she just basically compares them to in cells
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: and then like sort of like waves it like hand
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: waves it.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like very very surface level analysis from this woman,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: and also a lot of caping because you are poisoning
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: the well by using.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: She well, she's giving it to both sides. Also, she's
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: like she's balanced. She goes out to the men and
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: the women. Didn't you see she just did that totally balanced.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she goes after the men and the women, but
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: she still uses patriarchy theory or patriarchy conjecture. She still
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't get away from that. That is
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: a completely unscientific assertion that has never it has never
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: even like it's beyond not even been proven. It's never
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: been framed in a way that could be proven true
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: or false. Right, so it's complete bullshit. It's something somebody,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: some idiot scribbled on the napkin somewhere, and suddenly it
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: became the dominant worldview of everyone. Like, no, you buy
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: into that, then you are ultimately making men culpable, and
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: that you have chosen a side, Hannah, you have chosen
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: a side, and everything after that is noise. Mm hmm. Okay,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: can we move on to the other one?
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: You want to? Okay? I got a superchow and I
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: got a rumble rant. I should read those. So Richard
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: Bierre gives us five dollars and say, in South Korea,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: really the reality annoying. I think he meant really annoying,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: the really annoying. Kirk streamer known as Johnny Smally Somali
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: has been arrested and is in jail for his disrespectful
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: conduct involving the memorial of the comfort women. There there
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: was a crowdfunded bail fund for anyone who would give
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: him somewhat for base on his disrespectful behavior. The fund
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: has paid bail for three people so far. I wonder
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: just was serving him that?
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: What for?
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: In that society? Okay, it was a little I'm just
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: reading it as it's written, so it's a little. Yeah,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: I don't have a legend in front of me, I
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: don't have the decoder ring, but I'll I just read
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: it as it is. So Occupend forty two on Rumble
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: gives us ten dollars, thank you, and says feminist equality
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: means all the rights, none of the responsibilities, all the
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: good jobs, not the bad jobs. Yes, it means not
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: actually having to make a sacrifice and figuring out how
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: you benefit and just measuring success, uh, based on that.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: So all right, so should we jump? Should we play more?
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: Jump ahead to another bit?
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: Let me see, well, let's let's.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: Go to the next one.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: I'm enforcing that.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 6: Let's get that, okay, because they might get prosecuted.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: What what's the time code? You want me to go to?
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Extreme is?
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: Manifestell? Yeah, unless you want no, no, no, it's okay,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: all right, all right, I know this is this is tough.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, So this is manifestelle. Cogitating girl, thinking girl, philosifizing
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: because she gets to do that now, the first time
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: she gets to think about things like this is the
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: first time in human history that women are allowed to think.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Did you know that?
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 7: Guys?
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: Men, and they've never been We've we've always been there
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: using our brain waves prevent women from thinking.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's gonna cogitate on why the birth rates
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: are crashing. Okay, it's not women's fault, guys.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: Guess what. Guess what, it's not women's fault.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: We just let a whole discussion on women deliberately trying
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: to crash the birth rate, and now we're going to
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: go into a discussion on how that's not women's fault.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna jump ahead to I think it's
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: like nine because there's like trends that she's talking about
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: on TikTok. I don't give a shit about these. This
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: is like so shallow, by the way, so shallow. There's
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: a trend, and now I'm going to base a movement
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: on it. It's like what, all right? So this is
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: uh counter movements and societal reactions to the baby bust phenomenon,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: which we've talked about. The baby baby mgeddon is what
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: she calls it. So let's take a listen to this. Men.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: They can't stand the idea that women are protecting, supporting,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: and uplifting each other because they are so starved of attention.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: They are so starved of affection, they are so starved
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: of positive interaction with people that they will look for attention,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: whether it's positive or negative, just to be paid attention to,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: just for their existence to be validated, just to feel something.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: And that's really sad. But that's not really our problem.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: Like, okay, wait, but why would that be the case
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: in a society that puts men first?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: That's a good question, Alison, Yeah, Like, why is it
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: possible that we live in a male dominated society and
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: men aren't getting assigned women or not in that?
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: Like, how is it that we would live in a
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: male favoring society without men actually being favored more socially, Like,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: in a society that really valued like valued men, wouldn't
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: they be valuable as companions?
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Like honestly, it's not usually the people who
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: are considered the aristocracy who want for company, like you know,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: So anyway, that's the immediately she contradicts her her own worldview,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: because I'm pretty sure Manifestel's world actually, she probably doesn't
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: have one any more than a hamster does. But she
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: does espouse patriarchy when it's convenient, So I'm going to
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: hold her to that. But you know, like that's uh so,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: she's already contradicted that right off the bat. She's already
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: contradicted that. I'm sure that this is going. Let me
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: ask you this because it usually amounts to this, how
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: much of this is blather?
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: What? Oh?
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: A lot of it? I mean, it's sort of repetitive.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: Can you give me a percentage? Like how much blather
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: versus half half?
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: Is that a good?
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I think that like you could summarize
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: her thesis in a couple of sentences, you know, like
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: the there is a women are are in their power,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: They're standing in their truth. Now they have the means
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: to make their own money and have their own jobs
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: and buy their own stuff. They don't need men anymore,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: and men are lonely. But it's not it's not women's fault,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: you know, it's obviously like men like women don't want
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: to deal with that. It's too much laborers. But also
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: the only the only means under which women will return,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: or you know that men have a chance, you know,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: like that men deserve that they are certain lines to
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: die off because they're not stepping up. And the reason
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: is because they're they haven't made society, like our civilization
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: comfortable enough for women to just then decide to like, okay,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll have babies now. So essentially, and that is
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: why I'm saying it's a self destructive prophecy, because they're saying,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: we won't give you any babies, and you might give
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: us a higher quality of living even though we're living
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: in the first world, which is better than any medieval
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: king ever lived in history. Even if you're in poverty,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: you're basically more likely to be obese than starving, you know.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: And but no, that's not good enough, that's not good
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: enough because and Manifestela is so removed from reality. She
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: is so removed from reality she has no idea that
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: everything that she enjoys, every comfort, every luxury is only
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: made possible because men busted their ass for generations to
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: build it, and they did it for women. They weren't like,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like, ah, this is for me, It was like, oh,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: I want to make my life's my wife's life easier.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: Let's do these things, which was probably a mistake to
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: be to be like hindsight being fifty to fifty, So
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: fifty fifty.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, I think giving women a lot of free
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: time led to some really serious shit. But yeah, like,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's some fallacies here. Of course she appeals,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: so again she does appeal to this idea that society
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: is somehow structured for men because women don't live in heaven,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: I guess. And apparently women are not to blame for
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: the for the the lowing lower birth rates because men
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: haven't achieved a utopian level of comfort for women. Mm hm,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: all right, Like, well, but the thing is that but
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: but on the other hand, men have constructed or managed
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: to create a society in which women are free, to
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: be free and to demand even more from men, And
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: because men haven't given them that more, the birth rate
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: is declining. Is that it m So the the key
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: is for men to give women more.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's that That is the key takeaway from.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: This, Well, it's always the key takeaway, is it is that's.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: Manifestel's whole agenda is basically like, can I have more stuff,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: and if you're not giving more stuff, then what are
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: you worth to me? Like? What is your worth? And
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's really like cutthroat and materialistic. But
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: that's her whole thing like that, I don't that's what
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like, there's nothing to it, but this is.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: What she is.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: The thing is that Philip being a philosopher is about
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: asking the question of what's the meaning of life? Right?
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: And none of this shit's going to give you meaning, manifestol.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: I don't even think she knows what she's missing. She
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: just knows she's missing it. Okay, let's let's uh, I
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: don't know, find something that isn't blather that we can
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: respond to.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me see here, I will jump to well,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: we're getting to the economic implications, so I can jump
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: to that part.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's like twelve minutes. I mean, basically, it's it's
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: like what you know, it's her saying this is what
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: I want.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: But okay, let's go really revealed to us how poorly
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: we support parents in the US. We've come to see
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: the truth that we've always known but never speak out loud,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: which is that parenting is really hard and we don't
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: really support parents in that role.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: So I saw a lot of that's a quote, by
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: the way, from a CNN panelist, though basically nothing of substance.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: But okay, so like basically they were saying parenting is
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: expensive and we can't afford it. This is like the excuse,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: let's trot it out. Like I've said this on the
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: show before. I know people who have less than me
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: that have multiple children. They make it work because they
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: love their kids. You can do it. You have to
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: live within your means. Manifestel wants to be able to
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: have kids but also do her manicures and pedicures and
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: get her hair done and buy the new Mac makeup kids,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: and the new outfits and the new shoes and all
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: that and the new phone whatever the new phone is,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: and all of it's in the back and that basically
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: you can't do both of those. Sometimes you just like
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: to live kids. She does, but she's using carrots. Go ahead,
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: What was that?
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: She wants to use her having kids as a carrot
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: to get what she wants. She's never gonna have them.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: And if she does, if this persona is real, because
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: she could be fake as fuck, I don't know who knows.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe she turns off the camera and she gets her
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: apron on and her egg apron on and goes dance
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: and gathers the chicken eggs for you know, twenty omelets
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: for her thirty four children. I don't know.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: Oh but I don't think so.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think so either. But she this is in
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: this persona that's just a carrot. She's basically saying, hey, man,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: give me a life of luxury and I might have
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: children maybe if she still can you know.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, she's holding it over their head. As likes it.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: It's just a way to extort more shit out of men.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's kind of a carrot, but no promises.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to step up, and if you step
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: up sufficiently then maybe I'll consider it. And that's a
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: thing like it's like they have this little bit of
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: power and they just abuse the shit out of it.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, it's fine though. This is
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: like I've said this before. If you don't want to
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: have kids, don't have them. But then the people who
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: are having kids, they're gonna win because they're having children.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: You know, So you know, like whether that is if
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: you're in a country like the UK, which is like,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a growing, a growing number of Muslims,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: people from the Middle East that are having lots of children.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: If you don't care, then okay, just get ready to
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: learn Arabic or whatever the language is gonna be and
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: get ready to adopt. Yeah, like you figure out which
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: get get figure out which direction is Mecca, because they're
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: they're going to outbreed you and then you're gonna have
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: to live under their terms. And that's just what it is.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: Like I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, what are you gonna do? Like the
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: women like this, they're gonna ensure that if they become
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: like a majority, because it doesn't like these people can
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: chew to live however they want. I've never said anyone
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: ever had to have children. What I am saying is
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: that some people are having them, and their line will
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: go on and they will continue to, like you know,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: have more and more, and it will just continue on
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: into the future. And some will not and that will
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: be the end of it. And those people they're they're
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: gonna live for now, and they're gonna live for the
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: moment because there's nothing to invest in and that's why
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: you get these materialistic people like Manifestel. She's not gonna
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: have kids because then she has to put her energy
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: and labor into somebody else that is dependent on them.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: So why would they do that?
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: So we're not even gonna have a dog? Okay, I'm
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: curious about the sorry she deserved the purse trend? Can
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: you explain that?
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: Going to go back to that she deserved the person?
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: And I don't remember it. It was pretty like forgettable.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: But yes, that twelve o four was the economic implications
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: of the declining birth rate. Yes, actually say anything about that.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: That isn't blather.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: It's blather. It's basically like this is happening and it's
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: men's fault. Like that, that's all it is.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: The problem with using an AI analysis of these women
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: is that it makes them sound smarter than they are.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: It's actually making points for them. That's sad if you're
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: a content.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: Creator in well and and they're saying something that I
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: think a sizeable number of people want to hear. I
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's a majority based on the last election,
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot of women and maybe
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: men too, that want her to tell them this because
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: it confirms, like you know, something that they that makes
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: them feel comfortable. So like, oh, I see it's men's
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: fault that I'm a loser, because that's what I mean.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: These people are losers, Like they don't know it yet,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: but they.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: Are so well they're never going to amount to anything
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: and their life is meaningless.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean they could, like manifest El can
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: go on to have like two million subs, five million subs,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: you know, constantly making these kinds of videos. But if
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: she actually, like if she's not a hypocrite and actually
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: lives her life according to the things that she sells,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: she will die surrounded by people who don't know her.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: Because that is coming for all of us. We will
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: all die. So that's just an inevitable fact of life.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: So the question is when that happens, when you're on
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: your last hours, are you going to be alone surrounded
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: by people who have to take care of you even
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: though because it's their job, you know, like in nursing
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: homes or hospital or whatever, or are you gonna be
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: surrounded by loved ones that you have essentially spent your
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: life with. I mean, that is the question that she
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: would not have the courage to ask herself, because it's true.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: It's an inevitability. You're gonna outlive your parents, You're gonna
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: outlive like your uncles and aunts and your grandparents, and
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: you are going to either die around people that love you,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: or you're gonna die alone.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: She doesn't. I don't even think death is in her universe. No,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: it's incomprehensible to her. She's always going to be this face.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: Death is in fact in the back. It is in
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: the back. She just hasn't ordered it yet, but it's
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: going to be sent at some point.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I'm not trying to get
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: darker morbid, but it's just true.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: So we yeah, well it's true, like yeah, And the
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: thing is that I don't even think of it in
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: terms of being surrounded by the people you love. How
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: about knowing that your life was spent trying to make
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: the world better in whatever way. I know it's a
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: little arrogant to say that, but trying to make the
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: world a little bit better for the next generation or
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: for people who aren't you, you know, and and and
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: you know, like I don't that's I think that's I
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: think a component of the meaning of life. And that's
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: the most valuable thing that you can get is is
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: a meaning to your life. There's no no greater value
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: in the world than that is to know that you
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: live your life with purpose and meaning. And yeah, this
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: woman is not I don't think mm hmm. Okay, let's
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: let's let's play them.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, sure, let's let's play. She deserved the.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: Purse trend to buy this, this, and that necessities for
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: their kids. But a lot of mothers they always put
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: themselves second, third, fourth, fifth on the list of priorities,
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: so they never get to buy whatever it is that
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: they wanted for themselves. And we're gonna get into this,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: especially the American culture of total motherhood as per a
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: brilliant right, we're gonna are.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: Are people talking about what do you mean, well, this
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: idea that mothers.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: Are hell oh yeah, that they have to put their
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: kids first?
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: Oh the humanity?
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: Do you remember? Uh?
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: The Tommy? Uh what no Tommy like Tommy so tomorrow?
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're a black queen even though.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: You were crack fiend, you were a black queen, you know,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: for his mother. And that's a really low bar for motherhood.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was he was talking about Tupac, and Tupac
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: was because Tubac was mama's boy for sure, and he
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: wrote about his and his mom was like a communist
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: activist or something like that, was involved with the Black Panthers,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: and yeah, it's crazy. But anyway, you were saying about
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: that lyrics, she was you, Yeah, you're a crack fiend, mama,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: but you were my black queen mama something like that.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Tomorrow said, that's a really low bar, and that
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: is that encapsulates our beliefs about moms. Honestly, Like, if
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: you really want to know what standards we hold mothers to,
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: then look at how we treat them when they're abusers. Right,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: when a woman is abusive towards her children, you will
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: more likely see people blame the children than the mother. Right,
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: that's the actual standard we hold mothers too. We don't
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: even we don't even expect them not to be abusive,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: because we blame the children when they are. We don't
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: do that. Fathers, they definitely come into blame when they
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: are abusive towards their children. Right, you want to know
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: the standards we hold mothers to, ask children who have
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: been raped by their mothers if they were believed when
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: they told social workers or therapists or some trusted adult
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: that they just manage to work up their courage. And
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: you will hear like something like ninety nine percent of them,
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: we're told, no, that didn't happen. That's the standard we
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: hold mothers to, we hold them to know standard whatsoever.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: And I'm and I don't. I don't even know, like
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: you cannot get away from that. Like you may your
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: your group of moms may hold you to some I
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: don't know. You don't do bi weekly aromatherapy, cairo practice yoga,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: infant yoga, but they probably will still defend you if
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: you're accused of abusing your child, Like seriously, they won't.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: They won't call you out for taking your child's father
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: away from them. Don't do any of that shit. They'll
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: they'll uh, they'll blame you if you eat sugar during pregnancy,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: but you know, if you kick the father out of them,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: oh that's okay. Yeah, this is bullshit. Women in this.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I'm sure there are some conservative communities
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: that aren't like this, Christian communities that do hold women
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: to standards. But I'm talking about the general culture, the
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: general culture, women don't hold other women to account when
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: it comes to their motherhood. They create all of these bizarre,
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: esoteric and almost narcissistic judgments like do you take your
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: kit toy infants yoga? Did you eat sugar during pregnancy?
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: All this other shit. But on the basic facts, do
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: you not rape your children? Do not beat them? Do
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: you actually extend yourself to understand their point of view?
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: Do you make sure their father is in their life?
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: Do you do everything in your power to make sure
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: their father is in their life?
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 3: Do do that?
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: Are they held to those standards? No, So shut up, manifestel. Sorry,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: this is a topic that really pisses me off.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: So I got a super chow from Asthrun for five dollars.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Asthrun and says I could be wrong, but
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: aren't most of these women telling on themselves for using
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: punishment or threat of that as a weapon. Isn't that
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: in the line of domestic abuse, even the perceived power
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: as if men only want say they abused just because
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: men didn't vote for her imagination. Well yeah, and they
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: also assume that men are more sexual than women. But uh,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: there's an interview I did on my Channel Honey Badger
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: Arcade where I talked to Aidan Paladin about this, and
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: women are just as bad like they're capable of or
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: worse in ways. But we've talked about that on the
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: show as well. So yeah, when they say I'm not
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: going to give you any you know, Punani, They're they're
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: going to anyway because they also horny and they and
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: they're over sex just like men. So that's just gonna
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: happen anyways. But so they're telling on themselves and also lying.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: All right, so do you want me to play some
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: more or we've gone for two hours? Yeah.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: And if you choose to have a child and then
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: you put those child's needs first, I'm sorry, what what
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: is that?
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: You don't get a cookie for basic decency? M. You
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: don't get a cooky ladies for basic basic decency. You
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: chose to have a child, That means for until that
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: child is self sufficient. Yeah, you chose to put yourself second. Hm.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: The only person in that scenario that is gonna maybe
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: put yourself put you first is your partner. Right, you
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: have to put yourself second. Now you have to make
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: the effort to take care of what you have chosen
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: to take responsibility for I know the world hasn't prepared
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: you for that, because woman is something that's just granted.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, man, in order to be a man,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: what do you have to do? You have to protect
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: and provide for someone other than yourself. But women don't, aren't,
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: aren't held to that standard. So suddenly it hits them
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: when they become a mom. Oh shit, I need to
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: put someone else ahead of myself, and so many of
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: them fail. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna just participate
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: in this this angel in the house bullshit about mothers.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: And the reason why I'm not is because there was
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: one point in time now, I had a rough relationship
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: with my mom. Like I can't remember a time that
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: my mother actually did something for me because I needed it.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: I just don't like when I got sick, she would
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: yell at me. My father actually had to stop her
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: from yelling at me when I went to the doctor
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: and I had a fever of one hundred and four
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: because I wasn't at school, and they sent me home,
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: like they she sent me to school and my teacher
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: is like, you look like you're dying. Go home. And
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: I went home, went to the doctor fever in one
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: hundred and four. I go home and I had my
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: mother yelling at me because I took a day off.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: That's the kind of mother she was rough rough childhood, right,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: She's better than most mothers. You know why, because she
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: would have never taken me away from my father. She
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: is better than ninety percent of mothers. That woman that
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: raised me is better than ninety percent of mothers. Don't
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: give me this shit manifestel all right, I'm sorry, Like okay,
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: that that got a little bit for the.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 3: First trend is going viral in America, in the United
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 3: States of America because we do have this culture of
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: total motherhood where when you become a mother, everything is
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: about your kids and you as a person become secondary.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: That is in total motherhood. That's the way it works.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: Like what the fuck is this shit? Like, ok what,
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: why have a child?
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: Why have a child? Didn't when you want a hobby?
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: Like can you imagine a father a guy getting on
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: here and saying that, like, you know, there's this concept
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: of total fatherhood where like men just have to put
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: their kids first before like we like, I mean, we
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: would we would completely like look, the internet would explode
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: it'd be on fire, there'd be CNN would have twenty
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: four hour coverage, did be dads on the rise? I
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: mean like, I think that if you are a parent,
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: then yeah, your life as a single person is effectively
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: over or at least it is like now oriented in
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: a new direction. Do you know that is like what
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: are we here for?
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: Like what would Yeah, that becomes your purpose. But you
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: know what I've heard from single dads when they listen
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: to the shit like this about women are like single,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: and they're like, oh my god, I have to I
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: have to moderately change my life for a creature that
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: I brought into the world. And I really thought it
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: was going to be a hobby I could turn on
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: and off when I wanted to. But you know, and
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: it's like single dads are like, no, I don't date.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: Why don't you date? Because my kids come first first?
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: You know, Like, and this is why children of single
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: fathers do better, because men understand this shit. At some
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: point you take a back seat when you have a
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: young life that relies on you. You don't get to
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: do everything you want, right And if you don't like that,
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: don't have children. But the fact that she's complaining about
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: the bare minimum. Yeah, you're gonna put yourself second when
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: you become a mother, when you become a father, because
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: you have kids who rely on you. If you don't
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: like that, don't do it. When this just really infuriates me,
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: let me have a personal problem with this, right, Yeah.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: The purse trend without talking about how it has been
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 3: co opted and ruined by people who feel left out
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: because they're not struggling mothers, namely men asterisk who have
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: resorted to destroying cans of formula at the grocery store.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 7: Another counter movement targeting these women and the enjoy they're
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 7: experiencing by going through stories now and completely destroying baby
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 7: sections and essential goods that mothers would usually purchase because
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 7: these grown men have come to the conclusion that that's
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 7: not really fair, and so again instead of taking the
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 7: time to focus.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: On and this is something that movement to support.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: Other men or you know, doing I don't know, I mean, like,
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: let's listen to the let's listen to the whole thing.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, this is they're gonna explain.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I wish yould just that they're okay, I'll go
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: back a little bit maybe the beginning of this. All right,
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: we're just going to play it from here as per a.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 3: Brilliant writer that we're going to cover later. But it's
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 3: just very interesting to point that out that she deserved.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: The purse trend is going viral in America, in the
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 3: United States of America because do have this culture of
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 3: total motherhood where when you become a mother, everything is
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 3: about your kids and you as a person become secondary.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's motherhood. That's not total motherhood.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 3: That's motherhoods not talking about how it has been co
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 3: opted and ruined by people who feel left out because
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 3: they're not struggling mothers, namely men asterisk, who have resorted
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 3: to destroying cans of formula at the grocery store and
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 3: other counts.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: Well, she says, she says men asterisk. So I'm wondering
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: if that isn't trans women she's talking about, because they can't,
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: you know, actually become mothers. But let's let's hear this
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: video and maybe this woman here will explain it, because
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: manifestel not great at explaining things.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 7: So these women and the enjoy they're experiencing by going
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 7: through stores now and completely destroying baby sections and essential
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 7: goods that mothers would usually purchase, because these grown men
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 7: have come to the conclude that that's not really fair,
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 7: and so again, instead of taking the time to focus
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 7: on themselves and maybe starting a movement to support other men,
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 7: or you know, doing absolutely anything productive and helpful, they've
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 7: decided once again to just take it out on women instead,
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 7: because I guess for some reason, that's just easier. So
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 7: they've started a counter trend videotaping themselves going through and
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 7: destroying these sections, and then they have the opulity to
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 7: sit around and wonder why birth rates are dropping to
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 7: an alarmingly low rate and more women are single.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: Because you consider your sex a political bargaining chip. That's
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: pretty obvious from what we watched before. But the other
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: thing is is, so men are going to baby aisles
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: and taking formula.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out what the she deserved. The purse
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: trend is okay, So it doesn't make sense.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: To me, does that like a critical massive men? Is
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: that like ten men on Twitter or sorry TikTok? Is
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: that men just holding like the formula and saying I
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: deserve this more so I'm gonna take it from a baby,
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: all right?
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: What she deserved. The purse trend, which emerged in September
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four, has captured the hearts of many.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: At its core, the trend is about showing kindness and
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: empathy towards mothers who make sacrifices for their children. Here's
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: a breakdown of the phenomenon. The trend began with a
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: viral video posted by Tennessee mom Denisha Gonzalez showcasing a
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: discarded purse where the tag still on it, left among
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: baby items at a store. Gonzale's caption says she deserved
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: the purse resonated with many, highlighting the struggles of mothers
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: who often put their children's needs before their own.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean don't. I don't know if there's
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: a counter trend to it. Maybe, but the newsweek she
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: deserved the purse trend. Hold on a second. Let me
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: just let me just share this. Let me just share
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: this tab so you can see it viral. She deserved
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: the purse trend backfires as people raid baby items. Uh so,
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: basically this might be a completely unrelated issue. People are
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: raiding baby items and stealing them. Let me see, let
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: me see this is a different Let me let me
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: get this straight.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 2: Because the mother discarded a person she couldn't afford or
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: in favor of feeding her children. Mothers everywhere are oppressed. Yeah,
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: are you fucking mental? Like all of you, You're like
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 2: I I go out of my way to try to
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: explain how women are harmed by this current system, try
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: to create a bridge for understanding and sympathy so men.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: Don't And you know what, there's no real evidence that
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: men are doing this either. This woman is claiming that,
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: but it could be anybody. It's basically like in these
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: parts of the country where there are these like a
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: massive uplifting that goes on where people are just like
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: stealing shit off the shelves, and baby formula and baby
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: supplies is one of the things that's stolen because it
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: hasn't been put in, you know, behind lock and key,
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: like detergent and other things. So this is like two
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: different things that are being conflated in order to essentially
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: support some kind of message, an anti mail message.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 2: What a surprise. Also, I love the duping delight on
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: this bitch's face, like she's really enjoying this. She's like,
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you men, I'm gonna get you geed,
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm really at the point where I don't.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't even fucking want to defend women anymore.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: It's frustrating, isn't it.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: It's like you are a foul So a woman through
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: took a just decided not to purchase. Maybe she just
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: decided she didn't like it, but no, because she chose
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: to feed her her children rather than get a vanity item.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 2: She's oppressed. Mothers everywhere are oppressed. Are you like you got?
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: And you know it's funny too?
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: Like if the economy was better, she probably could afford it.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, if she had a.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if there was a husband in her life that
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: was raising the kids, she might have been able to
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: get something like that. Or if she was humble enough,
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: she could have accepted the fact that, you know what,
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: maybe I can have that right now. I mean some
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: of us have to do that all the time.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I actually have to forego items so
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: I can feed my dog raw meat. It's really it
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: can get really expensive. Why do I do that? Because
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: my dog's health is more valuable to me than shitty
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: vanity items, right, Like, I'm sure you're in the same situation, Brian,
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: like you want to make sure Jojo feed gets the
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: best quality food that you can afford, and I can't
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: freaking believe it. Like two people who own dogs understand
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 2: sacrifice better than mothers. Apparently yep uh okay. I hope
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 2: you eyes aren't speaking for all mothers. You know, mothers
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: speak up and tell us that this is not you
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: don't want these people speaking for you, Maybe that you
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: understand that when you bring a life into the world,
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: you do sort of have to make sacrifices, and that
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: you shouldn't put it on the child, Like who are
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: they blaming here? That this woman has to feed her children?
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 2: That you's blaming the children, which once again ties into
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 2: what I said. When when mothers are abusive towards their children,
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: who do you blame? When children need to eat? Who
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: do you blame? Apparently the children? How dare you make
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: it so your mom didn't have to get a pre
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: trash purse you demanded baby formula? You little yeah, don't
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 2: cool with me, Susie, I'm gonna backslap you. Oh dare
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: you make it so your mom couldn't afford a freaking purse?
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 2: Are you fucking mental? These women don't like I whatever
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: where this is, it needs to not become part of
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 2: the next generation.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, should we keep going? Or because I mean,
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: like it's been like over two hours. I don't know,
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: like how much more like you want to do or whatever?
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 2: Is there anything more to the like, Okay, so this
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: is the Okay, what did the people actually do in
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: this take baby formula movement?
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: I mean I closed the window.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: Hold on a second, send me the link and I
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: will take a look at that. Yeah, I don't know
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: how much I'm sorry, Like Richard Berrer he supported.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: For this, I understand. I mean with this could be
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: too this could have been two shows, you know, but
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: I'll send this to you through the bord server. Here
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna need to recover from this ship. Yeah,
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 2: like this is just this is the worst of it,
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 2: because I mean, I care about men, but the way
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: that these women are treating their children, it's just appalling.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 1: While they do it in family courts though, right become
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: they become chess pieces in a game. And I mean,
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: so why wouldn't it be like and again, this could
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: have been something very simple like the whole thing about formula,
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 1: you know, Manifestel tries, she makes the case, I'm not
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: gonna play the clip because I have to find it,
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: but I know what she says. She makes the case that,
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: you know, the formula is like really important. And then
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: she says, but I know some of you are gonna
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: come in here and say, well, breast milk is free.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: And then she goes and says, well, but you know,
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: like why should women have to do that. It's a
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: lot of work. You could you know, ruin her boobs
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but like, this is the purpose of your
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: boobs is to feed your babies. Like formula is not
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: good for babies. Like there's studies that have been done
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: that show that if you feed your baby exclusively formula
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: versus your breast milk. And also if you are like
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: eating healthy and producing healthy breast milk, not drinking fucking
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: whiskey and you know, smoking cigarettes, then your baby is
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: going to turn out much better if as a product
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: to your breast smolk. And I know that sometimes there
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: are challenges with that. I know that I know people
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: like my cousin who's had problems, you know, with lactation.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: But there are ways, there are natural ways to fix it.
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: So we and we've known about this for a long time,
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: but they just basically treat formula as a default. Oh
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: that's a problem.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: So how can they? How can I've just read this,
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: how can manifest I think, I don't know if I
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: want to look look at anything more. The reframing of this,
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: she deserves the purse thing to be some anti male
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 2: thing by manifest. Dell mm hmm. This is absolute bullshit,
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 2: Like this is actually offensive because that let me tell
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 2: you what actually happened. So apparently, first of all, it's
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 2: not okay, So this mother found this purse in amongst
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: a bunch of baby items that was abandoned, so apparently
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: some wanted to have it but couldn't get it because
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: she needed to get some I don't know whatever for
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 2: her kids, like any parent would do and really shouldn't
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 2: be given any kind of attention for doing. By the way,
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: what is that feminists, You shouldn't get cookie for the
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 2: bare minimum feeding your children bare minimum? But anyway, oh yeah,
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: for going a purse to feed your children bare minimum. Okay,
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 2: that's what you should be doing. But anyway, this article
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: refers to it as an act of kindness that this
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 2: woman videotaped all this shit, put it up for clout
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 2: on TikTok, and then apparently everybody saw this, and then
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: they started putting cash and gift certificates and whatever else
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 2: in baby items. And then what happened is that people
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: got greedy and they started like damaging the baby items
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 2: in order to get the cash out. And suddenly on
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 2: Manifestell's channel, man, can you fuck them? Okay, we go
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 2: from a situation where, okay, this is the bare minimum
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 2: for mothers. Sorry, bare minimum. You forgo shit to feed
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 2: your child. Hell I forgo shit to feed my dog.
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: Brian probably does as well. That's the bare minimum. You've
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: taken all this responsibility. Live up to it. You don't
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 2: get to buy endless reams of pre trash that you're
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 2: gonna throw out in a couple of years anyway, because
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 2: it's no longer fashionable. Right, But that's over for you.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: You are a mother. Now, you are a parent. No, okay,
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: nobody should be feeling sorry for women for this. Nobody
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 2: should because that encourages women to think, oh my god,
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 2: I am really exploited by the expectation that I feed
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 2: my children first. Oh no, stop doing that. Slap them. No,
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: that's not fair. It's not fair to your kids. Your
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: kids are not oppressing you, all right. But furthermore, how
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: can you blame men for this entire sequence events at all?
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: Do you think it was men who were doing us? Huh?
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: Well, somebody bad data things, so it must be man,
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 1: man bad.
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: Jerry in the commentators says, some people cannot breastfeed. You,
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: as a man, have no voice in the matter. How
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 2: dare you even presume to have a stay in the matter, Carrie,
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 2: because you're probably long gone. But everybody who thinks that
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: your characterization of this situation in that way is miss injury. No,
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 2: it's hatred. You are creating a threat narrative directed at
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 2: men by characterizing it in this way. There you have
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 2: no position to throw your moral weight around, Carrie, none whatsoever.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe we should change Karen to carry on my petition.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 2: Let's change Karen to carry because we got a Karen
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: and she's based right. Okay, Carrie, you're full of shit. No,
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: men are not saying you can't buy formula in order
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: to breastfeed your freaking children. Men aren't saying anything. Men
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: are over doing their own thing, probably voting for Trump
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: while this whole for costs happened. They had nothing to
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: do with it. It's probably a bunch of women arguing
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 2: and bickering over this shit and then maybe stealing baby
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 2: formula more than they need because ooh, maybe there's some
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: prizes in there. Like, there's no indication men are involved
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: in this shit at all. And yet who is your
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 2: fall guy? Who is always your fall guy? Right? Oh?
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 2: I wish men had voted double Trump somehow, we'd like.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: Make a clone of him and vote for that guy.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: Technically it's a new person. Yes, we'd just get a
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: DNA like sapentur, the DNA of Trump and like and
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt and George Washington and would throw in some
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: like Richard Nixon just to make it like extra spicy.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 2: No, men aren't even part Like, there's no indication this
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: is men at all.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, there's no indication, That's what I'm saying. I
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: don't see anything about it. But they're blaming men anyways
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: because that's what we do.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 2: So and then are they going to increase the sex stripe? Oh,
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: those men, they did this horrible thing. We got to do.
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 2: No more sex strike, kay, I'm I'm I no more Manifestell.
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: Let us end this so I can get some dinner, so.
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and let us end this so it can be over.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:17:39
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• 2:17:42
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• 2:18:03
  Speaker 2: idea that children oppress their moms really pisses me off.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 2: If you want to take on the responsibility, take on
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 2: the damn responsibility. Don't complain about it. I mean, you
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 2: can complain about it, but don't martyr yourself over something
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 2: you chose. All right, anyway, back to you.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: Brian, all right, I just wanted to comment about Manifestl's
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: eyes before we end it here, just based on what
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: it looks like. It reminds me of a line from
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: a movie. And let me show you all what I'm
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: talking about here. The line goes, you know, the thing
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: about a shark.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 8: He's got lifeless eyes, black eyes like a doll's eyes.
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 8: When he comes at you, doesn't seem to be living
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 8: until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 8: And then oh then you hear that terrible, high pitched
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 8: scream and the ocean turns red and spite all of
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 8: the pounding and the holler, and they all come in
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 8: and they.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: Rip you to pieces. That's from Jaws. That's what I
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: think of when I look at her eyes so dark. Anyway,
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• 2:19:19
  Speaker 2: Really grotesque anecdote about a man who got taken over
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: by his own anus. But do you think that's already.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 1: Happened with her?
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 3: That?
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: No, I don't know. I mean sure, I don't know.
• 2:19:38
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  Speaker 5: Activists are machines, dude, Okay, they are literal machines. They
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 5: are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking deal with,
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 5: especially if you have like especially if you have.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 1: Like a couple of dudes who have good memory. On
• 2:20:17
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