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Speaker 1: Jack Warris did Jack Ward Jackuars Drive Time Sextra, John
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Speaker 1: Ashley Jaguars Drive A Time starts right now. Welcome in.
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Speaker 1: It's Jacks Drive Time. I'm not Ashlan Sullivan, I'm j P.
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Speaker 1: Shadrick filling in. Ashlon will be back with us very soon.
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Speaker 1: John O's are along with me in studio, Brian Sexton
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Speaker 1: on his home set today. And here we go on
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Speaker 1: a Tuesday morning. We're about three and a half weeks
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Speaker 1: away from the NFL Draft. The Jacks have signed another
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Speaker 1: linebacker recently. There's a few things going on. It's not
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Speaker 1: as hectic as it will be in the days coming up.
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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get right into it. Big things
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Speaker 1: right away, starting with the reality of this offseason, virtual
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Speaker 1: versus in person this offseason. Well, how is the team
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Speaker 1: going to handle? How this things were going to look?
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Speaker 1: First off? What's it going to look like? John, I
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Speaker 1: guess it's the big question. Well, that's the question, and
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Speaker 1: I think we have the answer yet. And my guess
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Speaker 1: is in full disclosure. We're down the hall from football ops.
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Speaker 1: I guess it's down the hall. They can't wait to
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Speaker 1: find out that answer, and it's it. It's starting to
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Speaker 1: get a little old not having the answer. I would
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Speaker 1: guess you're going to see on field at some point
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Speaker 1: with players, but still meeting virtually, try to meet in
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Speaker 1: the middle somewhere there. But all the logistics and all
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Speaker 1: the details of that stuff to be hammered out. Let's
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Speaker 1: get these other big things will come back around Lawrenceville.
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is the You know, it seems like the
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Speaker 1: number one overall pick for the Jaguars. Urban Meyers said
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Speaker 1: almost as such the other week. But this could change
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Speaker 1: the way that the NFL thinks about the Jaguars organization,
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Speaker 1: him and things around him. Moving ahead, and finally our
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Speaker 1: final big thing today twenty three days. But who's counting
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Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft? How is this draft going to
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Speaker 1: be conducted? That will be in Cleveland, The commissioner will
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Speaker 1: be in Cleveland. Some of the top prospects will be
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Speaker 1: up there as well. But it'll be a little bit different,
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Speaker 1: I think, still from a normal NFL draft. All right, Brian,
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Speaker 1: let's go back to our first big thing today. What
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Speaker 1: what is this thing going to feel like, this virtual
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Speaker 1: in person off season. Well, I guess it depends on
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Speaker 1: who you ask JP And it's a great question, and
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are trying to figure
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Speaker 1: that out. My biggest concern is not that they can't
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Speaker 1: get some football work done. I mean, the players Association
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Speaker 1: would certainly present the case that they did it this
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Speaker 1: way last year, and they got through a whole season
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Speaker 1: last year and not too many people complained about the
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Speaker 1: quality of the product. But this is a brand new
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Speaker 1: era experiment in Jacksonville with urban Meyer coming in and
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Speaker 1: radically overhauling the franchise and the word that that he
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Speaker 1: keeps using and the word that we keep talking about
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Speaker 1: his culture, and I don't know how you radically transformed
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Speaker 1: the building and bring in all these new players, twelve
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Speaker 1: guys in free agency, eleven draft picks will be a
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Speaker 1: ton of undrafted rookies that make it through and build
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Speaker 1: the kind of program with the kind of culture that
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Speaker 1: you want. I don't think you can do it virtually.
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Speaker 1: I mean I say I don't think. I don't believe
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Speaker 1: that you can. But maybe maybe someone's got a plan
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Speaker 1: that I haven't heard of. So the whole virtual versus
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Speaker 1: in person thing for the Jaguars, and from their angle,
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Speaker 1: it slows down. It hinders the development of the culture
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Speaker 1: that we have heard so much about urban Meyer and
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Speaker 1: what he does when he comes into a program. They
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Speaker 1: might just have to adapt to the circumstances. I mean,
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Speaker 1: everybody's gonna have to deal with the same thing that
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Speaker 1: that's the hand you ad delt John, But it affects,
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Speaker 1: to Brian's point, it affects a first year coach far
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Speaker 1: differently than it affects the second year coach. Uh. Brian
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Speaker 1: has covered the culture tra angle, and I completely agree
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Speaker 1: with him. To me, the second part of this is
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Speaker 1: make sure or your hope that there's some extensive on
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Speaker 1: field work this year. And I think culture is point
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Speaker 1: A for this, but point B is you can't tell
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Speaker 1: me that calebine Chason wouldn't have been better last year
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Speaker 1: with eight weeks of on field And I keep going
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Speaker 1: back to the point a couple of coaches I mentioned
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Speaker 1: this last year. It's the only time the off season,
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Speaker 1: outside of maybe two and a half weeks of training camp,
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Speaker 1: it's the only time for young players to truly try
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Speaker 1: to learn technique, to truly be coached. Once you get
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Speaker 1: into the regular season, JP, you know, you watch practice,
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Speaker 1: it's game planning, it's prep. There's not a lot of
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Speaker 1: they call it working on themselves self versus Sell. There's
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Speaker 1: not a lot of that. So if you're gonna ask
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Speaker 1: these coaches to get these guys better, then make sure
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Speaker 1: that you give them some time in the off season.
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Speaker 1: I'll bet young players aren't the ones who are saying
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Speaker 1: we don't need that time. Well, and you know to
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Speaker 1: that point, John, I agree with you. We saw over
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Speaker 1: the last ten years as practice was restricted and offseason
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Speaker 1: work was paired down, we saw those of us who
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Speaker 1: covered the game and have for some time, we saw
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Speaker 1: the game change of it, and we saw deficiencies, Let's
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Speaker 1: put it that way in some areas on the field,
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Speaker 1: offensive line play being one that most people would point
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Speaker 1: to a quarterback development doesn't appear to be one. That
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Speaker 1: was because the game has changed so much as a
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Speaker 1: passing game. But we've seen it in the last ten years.
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Speaker 1: So there's no way you can say that the game
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Speaker 1: isn't as good by guys not practicing. And I think
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Speaker 1: Caleb and Chason and his surge at the end of
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Speaker 1: the year is a great example of it. I'm just
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Speaker 1: presenting the case that that's what the Players Association and
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Speaker 1: j C. Trenor the Brown center, who is the president
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Speaker 1: of the Players Association has been saying in recent weeks,
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Speaker 1: and the Players Association is dragging their heels on everybody
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Speaker 1: coming back in and playing it in the off season
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Speaker 1: like it has been totally agree Uh, they figured out
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Speaker 1: a way to get it done last year, but that
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that makes the game better or more
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Speaker 1: enjoyable to watch. Let's move along now to well, Lawrenceville,
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Speaker 1: Trevor Town, whatever you're gonna call this place after it now.
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Speaker 1: His his representatives, I'm sure have trademarked all of the above.
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Speaker 1: They should have. If they haven't, well maybe we should.
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Speaker 1: I don't know either way, but it's going to change
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Speaker 1: the way this organization, at least initially is seen, I
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Speaker 1: think around the NFL. Brian, Yeah, I want to point
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Speaker 1: this out. We talked about got this on Jaguars reporters
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Speaker 1: and and let me give it from kind of the
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Speaker 1: regional angle. I was in the Panhandle over Easter weekend,
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Speaker 1: saw a lot of Saints fans was wearing nothing in
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Speaker 1: Jaguars scarb. I didn't identify myself as having been affiliated
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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars all these years. I just simply asked
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Speaker 1: some questions and those people that I met. We're sad
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Speaker 1: to see the Saints era with Drew Brees, and not
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Speaker 1: because they were huge Saints fans, though they became that,
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Speaker 1: but they were Drew Brees fans, which is why they
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Speaker 1: became Saints fans. And one of them off handedly remarked
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Speaker 1: to me that kid they're going to draft in Jacksonville
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Speaker 1: might get my attention over there, and that was the
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Speaker 1: part that hit me. He hasn't even drafted yet, that's
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Speaker 1: still three weeks away, and yet the attention is so
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Speaker 1: focused on Trevor Lawrence and the kind of quarterback he is.
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Speaker 1: Because if he wasn't great, people wouldn't be interested in him.
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Speaker 1: But what he is as a player and a person,
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Speaker 1: because we're starting to learn a lot more about him
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Speaker 1: off the field, has people's attention. And I thought, you know,
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Speaker 1: we might see some people in the Panhandle who looked
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Speaker 1: west to New Orleans turn east to Jacksonville if this
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Speaker 1: thing wins. Because John, I think you'd agree it's winning
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Speaker 1: that brings people in, But it's personalities like Drew Brees
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Speaker 1: that kept those folks watching the Saints all those years. Um.
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Speaker 1: I can recall going out into the Panhandle in five
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Speaker 1: when we were trying to build the Jaguars radio network,
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Speaker 1: and you were competing with the Saints and the Fox
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Speaker 1: and the Falcons and of course the ubiquitous teams like
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Raiders. Um, the Jaggars gonna get
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Speaker 1: any traction out there that's gonna change regionally speaking. I
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Speaker 1: think Trevor Lawrence, as a Southern kid who played at
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Speaker 1: the Southern University, I think this is epic potential written
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Speaker 1: all over for the Jaguars. Quarterback in college football for
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Speaker 1: three years when a national title is freshman year, hasman
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Speaker 1: runner up last year, and he has all the accolades
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Speaker 1: and everything off the field to go with it. John Well,
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Speaker 1: it's easy to forget sometimes because we are so deep
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Speaker 1: into it and most of the people who write me,
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Speaker 1: most of people who approach us when we're out are
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Speaker 1: hardcore Jags fans because they're engaged all the time. You
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Speaker 1: don't recognize us if you're not a hardcore Jaguars fan. Um.
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Speaker 1: But there are many many casual football fans out there
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Speaker 1: who they identify with quarterback and few stars. The Jaguars
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Speaker 1: have not had a star of what this kid could
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Speaker 1: be maybe ever. Fred Marise Jones Drew Jimmy. There's a
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Speaker 1: picture over here in the studio. It's funny that of
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Speaker 1: an entire group of fans. I think it's around two thousand,
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Speaker 1: two thousand and ten. What's notable about the picture. They're
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Speaker 1: all going crazy. They're going nuts. I don't think there's
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Speaker 1: a quarterback jersey in the entire bunch of all things.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what air of this is. What you
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Speaker 1: want are sixteen jerseys or whatever number that he's gonna wear.
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Speaker 1: That's where you get huge swaths of fans following you.
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Speaker 1: And that's what this kid can bring. He can change
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Speaker 1: this photo JP, this one right here, that's what matters.
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Speaker 1: That's right when you walk around you know, obviously you
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Speaker 1: walk around New England and everybody's wearing number twelve jersey.
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Speaker 1: That's how that works when the quarterback is the star,
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Speaker 1: final big thing here on here. Twenty three days to
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Speaker 1: the draft. You know, last year was a really strange one,
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Speaker 1: but it really kind of worked out well. There were
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Speaker 1: a lot of good things that came out of that
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Speaker 1: draft of everybody working virtually and the home setups for
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Speaker 1: all the prospects and the coaches and the g ms.
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Speaker 1: They're going closer now it seems like John, back to normal.
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Speaker 1: They're having the draft in Cleveland. Who will be involved
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Speaker 1: there will see. It's three weeks away, though, and I
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Speaker 1: think there'll be a mix of in person and virtual things. John,
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Speaker 1: it feels like it's going to be that mix for
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Speaker 1: a little while, and you slowly transition back to some
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Speaker 1: version of what we had before. I'm anxious to find
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Speaker 1: out how much we ever get back to exactly how
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Speaker 1: it was before, how much they try to keep things
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Speaker 1: distant just because that's the way the world has gone.
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Speaker 1: But for right now, I would expect to mix. I
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Speaker 1: still expect this draft to overall have more of a
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Speaker 1: virtual feel than an in person feel. That could be
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Speaker 1: wrong about that. I hope I'm wrong about that, because,
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Speaker 1: as we discussed on Jaguars Reporters, the faster we can
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Speaker 1: get back to all being together except for this group
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Speaker 1: we don't want to be together. But for the most part,
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Speaker 1: the faster we can get back to being face to
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Speaker 1: face with the people we cover, the better job we
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Speaker 1: can do. Obviously to bring the story to the fans.
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Speaker 1: You know, I would agree with that, and again I
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Speaker 1: would encourage people go listen to Jaguars Reporters from yesterday
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Speaker 1: because we talk at length about how it impacts the
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Speaker 1: job that we do and and coaches and players also,
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Speaker 1: you know, JP is interesting if you look at the
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Speaker 1: draft last year, that was the part where it felt
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Speaker 1: good virtual because the stories that were told were different
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Speaker 1: than the stories that are normally told um and I
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Speaker 1: think the league is wise to kind of branch out
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Speaker 1: and do that. At Trevor Lawrence is going to be
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Speaker 1: at Clemson. There was a day where all the top
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Speaker 1: players congregated in New York and that's just that's not
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Speaker 1: the case anymore. And I think that's a really good
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Speaker 1: thing for the league to be able to tell the
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Speaker 1: story in many different ways, because, let's face it, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the names are a front. Maybe the jerseys look different,
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Speaker 1: but the stories on drafting are all the same. There
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Speaker 1: it's about kids who are living a dream who became
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Speaker 1: great players and their mothers, and you tell them the
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Speaker 1: story essentially the same way someone sitting in a chair
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Speaker 1: on a stage in New York doing a one on
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Speaker 1: one interview. Last year, it was in people's homes, and
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Speaker 1: we saw the mothers interacting with their sons, and we
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Speaker 1: saw the peewee football coaches who were in the backyard
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Speaker 1: is the draft was going on. The stories may be
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Speaker 1: the same, but you can tell them in different ways.
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Speaker 1: And I think the league benefited from opposite of what
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Speaker 1: we're talking about, being virtually in terms of the actual football.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's come back in a moment. Plenty of
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Speaker 1: ahead when we returned, though, we will go beyond, yes,
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Speaker 1: four six three three two thousand. Big week around your phone,
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Speaker 1: ringing off the hook. You walk around the office, John,
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Speaker 1: fired up, everybody's fired up. You know, I just realized
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Speaker 1: this is the first time we've shared a desk probably
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Speaker 1: in like fifteen or sixteen months, really right, I guess so, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we've we've done all these shows virtually or you know,
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Speaker 1: I haven't missed it that month. I love you too, John.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, J P. Shadrick, John Osan, and Brian Sexton.
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Speaker 1: Let's move along one that was an easy one, that
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Speaker 1: was like the it is kidding aside, JP, I missed you.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that. Let's go beyond number one now,
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Speaker 1: as we normally do on this program. Of course, we
16:48
Speaker 1: know what the Jags are probably gonna do with the
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Speaker 1: number one pick. How about third round and fourth round picks? Today?
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Speaker 1: Let's focus on the sixty and the one oh six
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Speaker 1: and all. You know, I'm new to this. You guys
16:59
Speaker 1: do this every week, but it is difficult to pinpoint
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Speaker 1: names here, John, though, you know you can have an
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Speaker 1: idea of the type of player you want. I think
17:08
Speaker 1: that's when you're trying to pick and do mock drafts.
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Speaker 1: It's tough to do because everything has to happen ahead
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Speaker 1: of you. But in that situation, it really needs speed
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Speaker 1: and size, right. Yeah. The most amusing thing to me
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Speaker 1: every year are the seven round mocks because by round
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Speaker 1: six it's purely darts at a board and I get that,
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Speaker 1: but um, I don't know the specific names of where
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Speaker 1: they'll go here, but I think in the top five picks,
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Speaker 1: and this goes down to the top six picks. When
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Speaker 1: I say top five, I mean the Jaguars top six picks.
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Speaker 1: I can't believe that two or three of that group
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Speaker 1: won't be used to make this team faster. Obviously, Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: you getting faster a quarterback. What I'm getting at is
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Speaker 1: urban Meyer has talked about speed and explosiveness. Trent Ballky
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Speaker 1: talked about being more explosive at the running back because
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Speaker 1: Sis and Er and Meyer talked about at the wide
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Speaker 1: receiver position. Well, they really didn't do that raw, raw
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Speaker 1: speed thing in free agency. Marvin Jones is an addition.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's your speed guy wide receiver. Philip
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Speaker 1: Dorset might be. It is very fast, but he's a
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Speaker 1: guy that you're not sure what you'll get from him.
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Speaker 1: And even if he's a major addition, I don't know
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Speaker 1: that he adds the front line speed in the wide
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Speaker 1: receiver corps. Certainly they haven't done a running back. I
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Speaker 1: believe that out of these top six picks, and when
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Speaker 1: it will be tight end, when I will be line
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Speaker 1: But then you'll have three skill position guys trying to
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Speaker 1: get them very very fast. Some combination of speed in
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Speaker 1: those two spots wouldn't surprise me a bit. What do
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Speaker 1: you think? Well, look and I we've got some lists
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Speaker 1: of players, and here's why we did it. I really
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Speaker 1: believe when you get into the third round, you were
18:54
Speaker 1: looking at real value positions. And for this Jacksonville team
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Speaker 1: that has worked around the perimeter in some ways, I
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Speaker 1: think this is where you look for a linebacker, a
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Speaker 1: tight end, a guard. Uh. These are guys that can
19:09
Speaker 1: come in like a a j can uh and plug
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Speaker 1: themselves in and become a long term performer, not a
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Speaker 1: star necessarily, So UM receiver obviously a part of that,
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Speaker 1: because I think this is a deep wide receiver draft.
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Speaker 1: But if you throw up the screen, if you can,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure who's in the control room, Trent. I
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Speaker 1: think is try throw up the wide receivers for a
19:31
Speaker 1: minute there, so you look at the guy right off
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Speaker 1: the top in Dnammy Brown, and you know whether he's
19:35
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Speaker 1: and today he gave him Dynamy Brown because he said, look,
19:57
Speaker 1: this is a guy with size, with bead uh and
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Speaker 1: a little bit like Deebo Samuel right, not asat, not
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Speaker 1: as quick, but a guy with playmaking skill who you
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Speaker 1: kind of figure might be there around Seth Williams. I know,
20:12
Speaker 1: you guys know and a Mari Rodgers is a guy
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Speaker 1: from Clemson. You know these are guys who could be
20:16
Speaker 1: there the third, fourth and fifth round. We we bring
20:20
Speaker 1: it up and there are names of guards and linebackers
20:23
Speaker 1: as well, and all of them kind of fit because
20:26
Speaker 1: this is where you get your roster stronger, better, not
20:31
Speaker 1: necessarily impact guys in terms of being stars, but guys
20:34
Speaker 1: who come in and grow and develop and get better.
20:38
Speaker 1: A lot of folks have focused on that tight end
20:41
Speaker 1: position here, and rightly so, because Urban Meyers said they
20:44
Speaker 1: still have some work to do with the pass catching
20:46
Speaker 1: tight end spot. And you know, there's a feeling, John,
20:50
Speaker 1: I know you, and we've talked to Bucky about this
20:52
Speaker 1: a little bit. There's a feeling you don't have to
20:55
Speaker 1: go twenty five. You can have a tight end thirty
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Speaker 1: three in that second and maybe even into the third
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Speaker 1: round window. And I'm sure there are some names there
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Speaker 1: that could um that could pop up to John. You
21:06
Speaker 1: would think I would think you ad dressed tight end
21:09
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21:16
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21:20
Speaker 1: these players, that they are potential contributors. They don't necessarily
21:27
Speaker 1: translate into stars according to the draft analysts, but the
21:31
Speaker 1: reality of the tight end position, as we've discussed ad
21:33
Speaker 1: nauseam on these shows last few weeks, it's it's the
21:37
Speaker 1: trickiest position to find. In my opinion, in the draft, uh,
21:41
Speaker 1: first round tight ends don't have a great history of
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Speaker 1: being big stars. Kelsey Kittle are the two guys who
21:50
Speaker 1: are the best in the league right now. We're not
21:51
Speaker 1: first round picks. We're not expected to be the players
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Speaker 1: that they are today. So most teams find their tight
21:58
Speaker 1: ends by taking a guy like from that group and
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Speaker 1: having them develop and sort of surprise people. Maybe the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars can do that this year. All right, let's come
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Speaker 1: and we start today John with Bred from Jacksonville. With
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Speaker 1: the sheer number of signees, how many might you anticipate
24:38
Speaker 1: don't make the final roster? Zero? Zero? Yeah, I get
24:47
Speaker 1: this question a lot, and I guess it's because they've
24:49
Speaker 1: signed some guys in free agency who people aren't that
24:53
Speaker 1: familiar with, so they assume, well, their roster uh filler
24:57
Speaker 1: their training camp fire. You know, maybe one or two
25:01
Speaker 1: don't work out and don't make the final roster. But
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Speaker 1: my understanding of my impression is these guys that they've
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Speaker 1: signed you know, say Jamal Agne and maybe people haven't
25:10
Speaker 1: heard of that much. Um or Damien Wilson who was
25:15
Speaker 1: a second wave guy. Um. You know, they have roles.
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Speaker 1: The coaching staff looked and the personnel people looked at
25:27
Speaker 1: the depth chart, looked at what they had, and they
25:30
Speaker 1: decided that they needed guys in certain situations. I don't
25:34
Speaker 1: think they went on and paid these guys what they
25:37
Speaker 1: paid them, uh, which in some cases wasn't salary, kept
25:41
Speaker 1: killing money, but it was it was still asset allocations.
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Speaker 1: They didn't do these things with the idea of these
25:48
Speaker 1: guys won't make the roster. So I think, you know,
25:51
Speaker 1: at a thirteen fourteen, fifteen editions, I'd be surprised if
25:55
Speaker 1: more than one isn't here because they have a specific
25:58
Speaker 1: thought as to how these guys are gonna be used.
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Speaker 1: So I would say zero for right now. That makes sense, Brian,
26:04
Speaker 1: you know, and and well, I interpreted the question different,
26:07
Speaker 1: you know, over twenty seven years here because of Jacksonville's
26:10
Speaker 1: deep college roots. I think people sometimes use the word
26:13
Speaker 1: sign e when they mean draft e right because they're
26:15
Speaker 1: used to college signing day. So I kind of interpreted
26:18
Speaker 1: the question different. And I'll just answer it that way. Um,
26:21
Speaker 1: they have eleven picks this year, and I would anticipate
26:24
Speaker 1: all eleven make the team as well. Um, you're not
26:27
Speaker 1: gonna waste a draft choice on somebody that can't make
26:30
Speaker 1: your team. And the evaluation process, even though this year
26:33
Speaker 1: it's a bit thin because they didn't get the combine
26:36
Speaker 1: and the one on one time that that they had
26:39
Speaker 1: hoped to. Um, my expectation is that everybody that they
26:42
Speaker 1: signed as a free agent for John's reasons, the money,
26:45
Speaker 1: and that they draft as a player, you know, for
26:49
Speaker 1: the the equity of the draft choice is they're bringing
26:52
Speaker 1: them in to make the team. Yeah, so what is
26:54
Speaker 1: the twelve thirteen free agent guys now? Right? Total? Somewhere
26:58
Speaker 1: in the whole party will be eleven draft picks maybe,
27:01
Speaker 1: you know, and then some unsigned undrafted guys. So you're
27:04
Speaker 1: you're pushing the thirty new players on the roster of theft.
27:08
Speaker 1: But you usually in the NFL, you usually have one
27:12
Speaker 1: turnover even in a normal year for a team that's competitive,
27:16
Speaker 1: So to add a few, I'd be surprised if that's
27:18
Speaker 1: not the number two new guys that it seems reasonable
27:21
Speaker 1: to me considering that what they were last year one
27:24
Speaker 1: and fifteen. Next question, Josh from Atlanta, Georgia. Do you
27:28
Speaker 1: have a writer's sense? Oh boy, careful with that of
27:32
Speaker 1: something truly different in terms of culture and organization. From
27:37
Speaker 1: the interviews you've done so far, a writer's sense got me. Yeah.
27:42
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's that high a bar when he
27:46
Speaker 1: right down to it, but it's it's uh. I guess
27:48
Speaker 1: we can go with that my sense. And I thought
27:51
Speaker 1: it to you guys too, because we all talk to
27:53
Speaker 1: people again, not as much and not as in depth
27:57
Speaker 1: as we would if we were all you non virtual,
28:01
Speaker 1: But in the talking to people that I've done, I
28:05
Speaker 1: get the sense that there's a new culture. I get
28:07
Speaker 1: the feeling that you get your what you would expect,
28:11
Speaker 1: which is sort of a new walk. I looked to
28:15
Speaker 1: Tashla Point, the defensive line coach, last week, and he
28:18
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the stereo blaring at six in
28:21
Speaker 1: the morning when they get in or or whenever they
28:24
Speaker 1: get in, and the energy and the excitement, and he said,
28:27
Speaker 1: it's what you would want when you have a change
28:30
Speaker 1: like this. I think that's right, this is what you want.
28:34
Speaker 1: It's gonna be new, it's gonna feel new. In training, camp,
28:37
Speaker 1: and then you have to have some success to back
28:38
Speaker 1: that up and maintain it. You know, all coaching transition
28:44
Speaker 1: always feels different. This one certainly feels more high energy
28:47
Speaker 1: because of Urban. It feels different, it feels special. So
28:51
Speaker 1: they've got to take that feeling and make it last bright,
28:55
Speaker 1: shiny and knew it happens when change happens, Brian, But
28:57
Speaker 1: then you have to go back it up with a
28:59
Speaker 1: success after it you do. And so from that perspective um,
29:04
Speaker 1: you know, not having access to spend time with coaches
29:07
Speaker 1: and players, it's it's hard to say there's any tangible
29:10
Speaker 1: cultural changes. Yet those won't happen until players are in
29:14
Speaker 1: here and whatever rules are in place, whatever processes Urban
29:18
Speaker 1: brings in, whatever attitude that he asks for from his team,
29:23
Speaker 1: we won't see that until training camp. And John's right,
29:26
Speaker 1: you know, you can build all the culture you want.
29:28
Speaker 1: They've tried to do that in the past here, but
29:30
Speaker 1: unless it wins, the culture is thin and it falls apart.
29:35
Speaker 1: My my perspective on this is they have tried, Gus Bradley,
29:39
Speaker 1: tried Doug Marone try they were not able to build
29:43
Speaker 1: a culture that was sustainable. The thing about this culture
29:47
Speaker 1: with this coach and this quarterback is it has the
29:50
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Speaker 1: the ozone pod Squeeze It In. Darryl Bevil will be uh.
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Speaker 1: I believe that will be posted Thursday. J You'll be
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Speaker 1: doing the posting my control that we might work on that.
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Speaker 1: We're on the desk together today, we can we can
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Speaker 1: talk through that, Bryan. You know, busy week, here we go,
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Speaker 1: we're three three weeks away. It's it's gonna come in
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Speaker 1: quick now until the NFL Draft. It does. And if
32:26
Speaker 1: people think that the excitement level is starting to become
32:29
Speaker 1: tangible in Jacksonville and his eye witnessed in Tallahassee and
32:32
Speaker 1: parts West, just wait till that kid puts his feet
32:35
Speaker 1: on the ground here. And if he's gonna be a Clemson,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't here really quickly
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Speaker 1: on Thursday. You know, you might see a jet and
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Speaker 1: go by and pick him up and bring him down here. Um,
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Speaker 1: this thing is going to it's reach a level that
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Speaker 1: we haven't seen in Jacksonville. And that is uh, that's
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Speaker 1: really really tempting, enticing, exciting. Choose your adjective. I know
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