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AM I THE DRAMA? WOMEN OVER 50 WANT TO KNOW! · Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50

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  Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
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  you to let it go and don't look back, with nationally acclaimed
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  professional organizer Christine Stone and self-proclaimed Hot
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  Damn Mess radio and TV personality Eden Kendall.
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  Welcome everybody to Uncluttered and Unfiltered with Eden and
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  Christine. Christine is a professional
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  organizer and that doesn't just mean the space around her.
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  She lives her life in an organized manner.
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  I try try my best. And I am kind of a, you know,
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  scattered mess. And that's OK, We're trying.
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  I am trying. I'm doing my best.
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  I've been a good influence you. Have you?
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  And you should own that. I'm glad you are owning that.
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  So we're going to do something a little different for this
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  episode and we really hope you guys enjoy it.
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  And if you do, let us know. And if you want us to do what
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  we're about to do with your situation anonymously, you could
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  always reach out to us. But we're going to do a play on
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  something that's very popular online called I'm just going to
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  say the word one time. It's am I the asshole?
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  And it's basically where you take a scenario and then you
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  discuss it and you decide who is the bad guy.
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  We'll say, am I the drama? So am I the drama?
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  And I have 3 scenarios that I came up with from just people
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  submitting things online that I think could be in our
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  wheelhouse. These are things that I think
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  that our listeners, our community.
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  Over 50 Over. 50 of women over 50 could potentially come across
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  whether it's themselves or a friend.
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  But before we launch into all of that, it's a check in.
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  I haven't seen you in, I don't know, two weeks.
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  Yeah, two weeks. So how's it going?
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  I know you got to spend some time with your grandson, Yes.
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  It was his second birthday and two years.
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  Wow, it's been 2 years. So it it stamina, which is an
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  upcoming episode, we'll talk about that.
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  But yeah, he's 2. And when you're 62, around a 2
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  year old, it can be exhausting. But I see my daughter and I'm
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  like God, she's my hero. So I mean, she's with them all
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  day. So I could do it for 4, right?
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  Yeah, you can do four days of. It, but he's adorable.
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  As long as you get to have a day off afterwards.
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  Yes, exactly. But again, like you mentioned,
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  there's an entire episode coming your way about that.
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  Yes. So what about you?
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  Well, I want to also bring up your roller skating thing.
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  How's that going? You were taking lessons.
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  Yes, I'm taking lessons and it's going well, but I decided the
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  other day that I was off on Monday.
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  We all had the day off on Monday and I had a whole To Do List and
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  my To Do List included practicing and doing a little
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  meal prep, trying to get some meals put in some containers and
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  in the freezer. That I like that.
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  Yes, that's a new kind of thing for me.
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  So I got through the first few things on my list, cleaning,
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  going to the gym, and then I settled in for a nap and before
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  I knew it, it was almost time for my husband to get home from
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  work. And you know, I was no longer
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  going to have the house to myself, so I had to combine, I
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  had to multitask. So I roller skated and meal
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  prepped at the same time. In your house.
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  In my kitchen, yes. So the video I if you'd like I
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  will post that. Video Yes I would like I.
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  Mean meal prepping and roller skating around in my kitchen.
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  Like, oh. My God, I know.
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  Correct me I. Know we're very different we're
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  very different that's why it works that's why things work all
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  right so I thought I would start off with one of these am I the
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  dramas that perhaps and by the way I.
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  Haven't heard any of these. You have not like springing
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  this. On me.
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  Yeah. Because what I want is your
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  reaction. OK.
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  I thought you'd enjoy this one. My daughter-in-law.
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  This is just an anonymous person.
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  My daughter-in-law has declared that she will not be allowing
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  any photos of my new granddaughter to be posted on
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  social media. And yet she never sends me hard
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  copies of photos. I would love to be a proud
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  granny and show off my sweet Angel and I feel like this isn't
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  an unreasonable request. Am I the problem here?
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  What does she think will happen? I know the world is a dangerous
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  place but she is constantly sending me texts with the photos
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  but I'm not allowed to do anything with them.
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  Am I the drama for thinking she's being a little bit over
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  the top? All of my friends that have
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  Facebook post pictures of themselves with their grandkids
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  and I feel left out. OK so do you have any rules like
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  that for yourself? For your from your daughter.
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  Yes, yes. See on Instagram and TikTok and
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  all those places. I'm under my business.
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  So it's different than having a private account because my
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  accounts aren't private. So yes, we do have that rule
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  that I'm not allowed to post anything that it has his face on
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  it. Now, one thing I'm going to say
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  is a grandma that I have learned, and it took me a little
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  bit of time to learn because being a mom, I think you want to
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  have your say and have your opinions because you were a mom,
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  right? Whatever she wants, I do.
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  That's my role. Whatever she says, I do.
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  Now she does send us photos and we're allowed to show them to
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  friends and people. It's just not on social media.
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  And I have to say, in this day and age, whatever somebody wants
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  with that, I think it should be respected because it is a crazy
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  world we live in with the Internet, social media, and you
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  don't know what people will do with your pictures and AI.
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  Yeah, I mean, you just don't know.
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  So anyway, but as a grandma, whatever she says goes.
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  That's my new, new thinking in my brain.
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  Yeah, you really can't. You can't not do that.
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  I mean, you can't break the rule or she'll stop sending you
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  pictures all together. That's the thing she and and as
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  far as the hard copies go. Does she there?
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  Was a time photos yeah, like printed photos I feel like if
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  you really want those you're just gonna probably have to do
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  that on your own. You're gonna have.
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  To take those taxes. And you can take them.
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  Your mom does it. You don't.
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  Do it for her. No, she.
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  Your 80 year old mother does this. 86 year old mother does it
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  at Walgreens. And they what?
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  Walk her through it? Or does she know what?
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  To do now she's become a pro because she has a million
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  pictures of everybody in her house, almost too many.
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  Sorry, mom. So she, yeah, you can get them
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  at CVS, Walgreens, and they'll print them for you.
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  But I, I don't do that. I just have them on my phone.
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  We had Thanksgiving at Buca di Beppo restaurant in South
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  Florida. It was just AI know that sounds
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  so funny. They were serving traditional
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  food and we were visiting and we're just this was, this is
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  what worked for everybody. And they had a photographer
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  going around taking professional photos and my sister was
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  inclined to purchase them and that's fine.
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  I, you know, I kind of like thought we could have just done
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  a big selfie together or something.
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  So she purchases them and then she proceeds to take pictures of
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  them and, and have those made. She has more made for she pays
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  like $200 for all these photos. And then she goes and she does
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  all this other and sends us these large versions of these.
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  Oh my God, I have nowhere to. 8 by 10.
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  So I'm like put these in a drawer.
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  Right. And that's so.
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  That we can hang them up when someone visits.
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  But right. And I say that obviously they're
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  they don't listen to the podcast, right?
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  But but my point is you just kind of have to go with the
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  flow. Like you said, I mean, if
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  somebody it would be nice to send for birthdays, maybe get
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  some nice frames if you know their style.
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  But that kind of also flies in the face as an organizer.
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  Yep, of what you would say, which is going around and
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  getting things framed that can gather dust and they may not
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  want to put them. Out well and also one thing I
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  see a lot is how many different frames that none of them go
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  together none. You know that you got wood
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  frames, you got gold frames, you got silver frames you got
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  decorative frames. I mean, people have like with
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  the word mom on it and you know what I mean?
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  So it just gets to be a little overwhelming.
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  So if mom and I, I don't get the impression from this particular
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  e-mail, if mom is somebody who really can't figure a way to go
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  and get these photos you're texting printed, then maybe take
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  her the next time you're in town, right?
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  Or whatever, take her to CVS or Walgreens or whatever and walk
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  her through the process and show her.
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  It's pretty easy. Well, does it bother you when
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  you do see a kid who has the circle on his face?
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  You know, to me it feels silly. I get.
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  I would just rather. The happy face.
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  The little happy face. I mean, I think if you're just
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  not going to do it, then don't do it.
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  But you know, a little kid with a happy face on it, nobody
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  really wants to see you. They want to see the little kid.
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  So what we're saying is yes, you got to take your grandson to the
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  zoo. Right.
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  But he looks like an emoji. Right, he looks like an emoji
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  and no one wants to see you, they want to see the.
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  Child. You know, so what's the point?
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  Unfortunately, you'll have to reserve the bragging about your
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  grandchildren for people you're in person seeing you.
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  If your child does not want you sharing those photos online, you
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  have to respect that. We both agree.
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  So am I the drama? Yes, if you're not going to go.
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  Along with that, yes, then that is gonna cause drama.
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  And you're gonna get cut off, you're gonna not get pictures
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  anymore. So don't do it.
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  It's not worth it. All right.
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  I also thought you would love this one.
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  Here we go. OK, my best friend is suddenly
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  dry. She's on board with that whole
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  sober living for weight loss, clarity, etcetera.
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  Good for her. I think it's fabulous for her.
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  She thinks that we should no longer do any of our regular get
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  togethers at wine bars or places that would entice her to have a
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  glass of wine or a cocktail. That seems unreasonable to me.
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  She's not an alcoholic. She's just trying not to drink.
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  And I applaud her for that. But the rest of us, three other
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  women, look forward to our monthly girls nights out and
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  admittedly, wine is a big part of that.
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  So who's the drama there? Is she?
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  Is that a lot to ask your friends?
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  I mean, it's one thing if you're in rehab and you know you want
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  the support when you get out, but if you're just doing.
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  If you're just so you don't want to drink anymore because it's
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  just not agreeing with you. I I say go and, you know, have a
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  Perrier. I mean, just sit and chit chat
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  for a while and then go home. Yeah.
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  I mean, I, I think that's really that's drama because then you're
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  going to say, I don't want to do that.
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  Let's all go to the library or let's go to the park or
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  wherever. And they're like, no, I don't
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  want to do that because this is maybe a way they all relax
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  having a glass of wine and chit chatting about their kids, their
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  day, whatever. So no, I think, I think that
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  about anything that someone quits, that's like someone
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  saying, OK, I quit eating red meat or I quit eating whatever.
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  So you can't go to a restaurant that serves hamburgers or
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  steaks. Or there are other things on the
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  menu? There's other things on the menu
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  and you can't expect other people to do something just cuz
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  you're doing it. Then maybe she should bow out
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  and do more one-on-one things with the girls, like go have
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  lunch or something you know what I mean?
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  But no, I I think it's high drama to ask a group of women to
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  change what they're doing because you're not doing it
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  anymore. I wonder too, though, my OK, so
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  here's my thought on it. I think exactly the way you
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  think, selfish as it may be. I rarely go out, and if I do,
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  you know I don't want to. I mean, what are some of the
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  other options? There are plenty of them, but
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  it's just not the same dynamic. There are really, there are a
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  lot of things you could do. You could go see a movie, but
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  then afterwards, you know, get coffee and chat.
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  But you you, like you said, could order something different,
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  but to hold up everybody else, right?
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  And I know that there's that feeling of like I'm not
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  supporting her if I don't make the change, but I don't know.
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  But like you said, isn't. Even going to stick it.
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  Didn't sound like she, like you said, came out of rehab.
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  I mean, then you are trying to support your friend and you're
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  not going to shove it in someone's face.
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  Absolutely. That's when you say, hey, let's
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  all go for a hike, right? You know which.
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  I'm sure you would be sick. That day, Yeah, whatever, right?
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  I would be sorry. Love to go, but I haven't washed
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  my hair. But I I agree.
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  I think that it's a totally it didn't sound like that.
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  It sounded like a dry January or something like that.
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  And you know, I, I don't buy into that.
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  Yeah, if you're gonna if you're gonna do it.
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  Do it but right. If you have to miss 11 get
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  together because you just don't think you have the willpower,
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  that's a shame. But right, you know, maybe,
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  maybe I agree with that. Or or, you know, set up an
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  alternate plan to say, oh, you know, everybody's getting
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  together on our third Thursday of the month, but would anybody
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  also like to join me for a pedicure on Saturday, right?
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  Because I miss you guys, but I just don't think I can go and
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  not. I'm not at that place right now.
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  It's still too enticing to me. Right, exactly.
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  All right. Got another good one for you.
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  This one is really, really good. OK, my son and his wife.
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  Oh, it's always the daughter. In my life.
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  My son and his wife just purchased a very large new home.
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  They are both physicians so I'm sure you could imagine that.
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  It's extremely spacious with an upstairs bonus area that would
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  that they would like to use as a mother-in-law suite I.
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  Hear that? Yep, here we go.
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  They have suggested that I move in and work as a nanny for the
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  kids. I would love to live with them
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  and spend quality time with them as a family and help out as much
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  as possible, but I prefer to pay rent and not be their employee.
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  My daughter-in-law feels that means that she would have me and
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  another person in her home all of the time and she doesn't like
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  that idea. She says if I'm willing to help
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  out, why wouldn't I just accept the free living arrangement?
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  I'm not in a financial situation where that's important enough to
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  me to give up my freedom. My son agrees with her and feels
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  I'm being stubborn. I don't want to work for my
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  kids. Am I the drama?
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  No, don't do it. Don't even move in.
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  Don't do it. I hope she's listening.
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  I'm begging you. I mean, no, I say absolutely
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  not, 100. There's no doubt in my mind that
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  is going to end up in a disaster.
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  Yeah. First of all, like I was saying
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  in the beginning of the show, I don't know how old this woman
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  is, but I'm assuming she's over 50.
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  You wouldn't be able to keep up with two kids, three kids and be
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  a nanny. And I don't think your mother
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  should be your nanny. Well, do you?
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  Well, no. And, and I actually have
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  experience in this. So let me tell you, and I, the
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  the person I'm about to mention is no longer a part of our
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  family life just to kind of it happened that way.
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  So I know she won't hear this And and frankly it wasn't a
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  great relationship, but my late father in law's wife.
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  Late father so. We walk you through this
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  scenario. So this is my late
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  father-in-law. His wife, she was a bit of a
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  pill as we used to say, and they found themselves in a bit of a
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  financial situation where they asked could they move in with us
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  for a little while. So they did in our upstairs.
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  That's one part of the story. That's not even the part of the
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  story that. Yeah.
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  So that's so I can speak to that.
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  That's a tough situation. And our house not that big.
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  So it's not even like this situation where you're so
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  spacious. OK, But but we were sending our
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  daughter to preschool before she was even potty trained.
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  Really. So this was not even really
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  preschool so much as daycare. And our son was in kindergarten
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  and she wanted to be the nanny because she needed the money.
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  And she's like, why are you, you know, you're paying them.
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  You could pay me. And I can just, you know, keep,
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  keep the, the kid, the child. And I thought, you know, OK,
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  because you're, you're thinking, all right, maybe they'll even be
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  a cost break for me there. And I'm helping out.
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  And, you know, she's with her grandparents.
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  It was not a good situation. There were arguments.
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  There were there was drama, there was a lot of drama.
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  And then there were even days where if she had other plans and
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  then I had to find other care, you know, and she still wanted
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  to be. It was just a very.
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  It never. Worked very.
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  Very rarely. I shouldn't say never.
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  It was. Rough.
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  Right. It was rough.
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  I mean, there are many reasons why we don't stay in touch with
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  her now that his dad has passed, Many reasons.
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  But you can well imagine that. Forget the fact that she was a
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  tough person to get along with, right?
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  But just having a family member be your employee, you're paying,
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  you're exchanging money. It doesn't, It might for some
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  people. And listen, if you're in, you
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  might be listening and you actually are in that situation
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  and it's working beautifully, but you're probably the
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  exception. Definitely the exception because
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  people's feelings get hurt. They feel taken advantage of.
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  What if they trip and fall in your house over the kids toys
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  and then you're stuck because you don't have?
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  I just don't see that being a good scenario.
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  That was another thing that came between me and this woman was
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  that she was a nanny. This was after she was watching
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  my daughter. She was both my kids were in
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  school at this point and she was watching someone else's child.
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  And she was like watching the child at her place.
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  But they had to give up their apartment for financial reasons
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  and move in with us. And she wanted to watch him at
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  my house. And I was like, no, no, ma'am.
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  For one thing, I was getting home from work at noon.
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  I didn't want that going on in my home all day.
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  Plus the the liability. I don't know anything about it
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  but. Right.
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  No, a lot of liability. Being married to a lawyer, I can
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  tell you lots of liability there.
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  So yeah. So that was she had B.
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  How long did they stay? Oh my gosh, I want to say 10
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  years, but I think it was 10 years.
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  I think it was really two months.
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  No, it felt like two. I thought you she was really.
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  No, I want to say that, but it was really about two months.
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  OK, I mean, it was about. Two months.
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  Two months too long. It was a very long two months,
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  yeah, very long two months. Yeah, I think in general there
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  is a rule that it's fine if someone comes for the weekend,
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  like a long weekend, Thursday to Sunday.
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  Any longer than that and there's gonna be problems.
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  One way or another, they're gonna eat you out of house and
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  home and you have to go to the grocery store again.
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  Or they leave wet towels on the floor and you're like, hello,
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  we're in our 60s or 50s and what?
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  I just think you're set in your ways by our age or you were
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  younger at the time, But I think just keeping it to a minimum and
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  doing, you know, like I said, a long weekend is the perfect
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  amount of time, and then you have to get back to your own
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  routine. Yeah, in my I.
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  Mean there are definitely scenarios where this can work,
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  or it has to work and you have to make it.
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  Work. Sometimes it happens.
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  Because you want to help, you want to be there for your family
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  members, you want to be there for your friends.
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  And I think that is always the right thing to do if you can
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  help in some way. But if you can avoid it or
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  certainly avoid being the employee of your daughter-in-law
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  and son, because no matter how great a relationship you have
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  with an in law, unless 25 years have gone by, you're probably
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  not as close as there's going to be.
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  You and your spouse will have arguments.
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  It's just a whole big mess. Well, that's the thing.
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  And also, haven't you noticed, like have you ever been to a
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  friend, a good friend who is your accountant or your doctor
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  or whatever, and it doesn't go well?
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  It's very, very stressful. I call it very awkward turtle.
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  That's an old saying from the 90s.
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  Where awkward turtle. It used to be a little hand
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  motion when you'd say awkward or turtle.
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  Gosh, I don't remember that. Yeah.
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  It's because you feel bad, you feel bad, but you're not happy
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  with the situation, but you have to move on because what if it's
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  you want a second opinion or so I always say friends, family.
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  If you're paying money, if it's a financial thing, it's never a
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  good idea. It never is.
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  It can be, it can be very awkward.
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  It's yeah, it can be very awkward.
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  Turtle. I would like everyone to go and
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  I would like everyone to use that in a sentence today.
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  That is your assignment. Sometimes we we leave you
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  feeling like you want to reorganize your laundry room.
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  Other times we have you leave us to use a word like awkward
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  turtle. Exactly.
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  You never know what you're going to get here.
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  You just don't know what you're going to learn.
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  Yes. And by the way, Speaking of
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  laundry rooms, today Christine was on our television show River
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  City Live, Yes. And we did a segment using
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  technology where we have this Swipey board and.
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  She swipe, not me. And I and we got to the end and
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  it wouldn't swipe anymore. And Christine says I think it
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  means our segments over and and I like that because what it
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  really meant was I must have made a mistake and not put all
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  the pictures in or something like that.
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  We got through about 5 or 6 pictures.
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  It wasn't a bad thing, but we got to the end and it just
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  wouldn't swipe anymore what it was supposed to.
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  But they were really good tips. Don't you think we need to go
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  back to like a remote? You know, everything touch
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  screen, We're we're such crowds today.
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  We're like, don't let your kids live with you.
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  Yeah. So, yeah.
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  So anyway, that was that. But that was a great segment.
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  And I will make sure everybody knows where they can see that
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  because you did give some really great tips on on using your
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  laundry room. Well, thank you.
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  In a way, that's productive. Yes, because nobody likes doing
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  their laundry. Nobody does or they don't even
• 25:19
  like their laundry room. Usually they want to redo it or
• 25:22
  it's not working right for them. So I see so many different
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  laundry rooms and I can't tell you how different they all are.
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  And every circumstance is different, so.
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  Yeah, so thank you guys for watching or listening rather
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  today. And we got to say that there
• 25:40
  aren't probably a lot of podcasts where we'll start out
• 25:42
  talking about am I the drama somehow get talking about
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  laundry rooms and all of these are things that are geared to
• 25:51
  you if you're a woman over 50. Yes.
• 25:52
  So please join our community. It's on Facebook.
• 25:55
  We have a group that's admitted admission has to be granted to
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  you. That's just to make sure
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  everyone feels comfortable and safe in that group.
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  It's a safe space, as they say, and it's called uncluttered and
• 26:06
  unfiltered Ladies only on Facebook.
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  Of course, we're on all of the other social platforms, but
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  that's the one where people feel very comfortable, it seems,
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  asking each other questions and maybe you have a scenario like
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  the ones we mentioned, or feel free to say, you know what,
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  that's not really my cup of tea. I got enough problems of my own.
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  I don't want to hear everybody else's problems, whatever the
• 26:26
  case. May be your feedback.
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  Do you have a problem? Yeah, submit it and we'd love to
• 26:29
  talk about it and let you know our thoughts on it.
• 26:32
  Yeah, we. You can stay anonymous.
• 26:34
  Yes. Oh definitely stay anonymous, so
• 26:36
  no worries there. So anyway, thank you so much for
• 26:39
  listening and remember, whether it is having someone move in
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  with you as your employee or just visiting for a nice long
• 26:50
  weekend, you don't have to let them move in.
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  You can let it go. And don't look back.