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Inside The Birds NFC Wild Card Postgame Show: San Francisco 49ers 23, Philadelphia Eagles 19 · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Inside the Birds postgame show.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher, Adam Kaplan and a year that started with
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: the Eagles having back to back Super Bowl championship aspiration
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: ends with the Eagles not even winning a playoff game.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: They lose twenty three to nineteen to the San Francisco
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: forty nine Ers at the Link in a game they
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: led in the fourth quarter twice, Adam, and in a
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: game against an opponent that was already undermanned, and then
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: lost another significant player in the game to an injury.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Man The Eagles are going to kick themselves at him.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: But I guess if you followed this team long enough
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: this year, you could have seen it coming.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you couldn't be surprised. In fact, that's the way
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: I felt. As a game progress and they couldnt put
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: the Niners away, I'm like, here we go again. It
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: just you get that ominous feeling about this is what's
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: plagued them the whole season is not taking advantage of opportunities.
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: You know, you talked about in our premium show with
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: myself and Greg Hosel about could they take advantage of
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: a want of opportunity here with the linebackers out they're
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: down four linebackers. Okay, this is a Niners team that's
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: essentially down six starters on defense if you look at
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: from week one, and they still couldn't get the job done.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: Just embarrassing. That's really what it is to me, as
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: I look at my notes here, embarrassing loss exclamation point.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: It just it is.
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: It's just this offense with the kind of offensive talent
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: that they have, of what they're being paid to underachieve,
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: like this is just embarrassing, and and and the other part.
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: And we'll get into the defense. But the defense surprised me,
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: really surprised me how much they struggled, particularly over the middle.
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: Did some good things. They were very uneven, but the
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: offense didn't carry the load like usual.
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: No, In fact, that was the big topic of my
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: Philly Voice story at him. You could have seen the
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: struggles offensively. You could have seen the penalties which were
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: mind numbing. How do you have two false starts at home? Right?
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: You could have seen that because you've seen it all year.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: But you've also seen the Eagles win double digit games
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: and get a number three seed, compensating because they had
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: some big plays on offense every game they'd have one
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: or two and then the defense really came around. I
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: was shocked, and listen, I give Kyle Shanahan a lot
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: of props. I know he's a master schemer, but shocked
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: that a guy like DeMarcus Robinson, who I said in
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: the pregame show, I can't believe this guy is still
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: hanging around catching some big passes here and there, that
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: he would go for one hundred yards. I was shocked
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: that Kyle Usach would be wide open. You check, I'm sorry,
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: you check, would be wide open to get four catches.
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: He hadn't catch caught four balls all season long. I
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: mean in a game, all all season long. I would
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: I'm shocked at when George Kittle goes after still able
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: to find a way to move the ball. And yes,
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: I give I give this. I give credit to Shanahan
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: who tends to be conservative. On game day, you know,
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: they're down nineteen seventeen, right, they get into Eagles territory
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: and this is right after Perdy had thrown a pick.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: But they but the the Eagles only got a field
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: goal out of it. When they got to the to
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: the twenty. I said to my coworker, Evan Philly Voice said,
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: they're not gonna throw the ball. They're just good. They're
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: not gonna let Purdy ruin it again, right, they're gonna
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: kick a field. No, they let him throw twice. He
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: threw a nice pass and then he threw a touchdown
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: to McCaffrey on a on a between the numbers type pass.
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: So Kyle went for the jugglar and I guess the
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: Niners deserved it more. They played better, they outplayed the Eagles,
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm really am surprised that vic Fangeo's defense just
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: didn't have it. I you know, it's one thing to
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: get beat man and man occasionally, like in the Broncos game.
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: We saw that happen. But they were loose, like you said,
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: over the middle especially.
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: It surprised me just that that they lost their their depth.
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: They just they found something on over routes and other
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: routes over the middle. They just got them badly. DeMarcus
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: Robinson's this guy's we talked about the game show. That
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: was really a special teams player for many years, a
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: really good one. That's why he was in the league.
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: And then the Rams had some injuries. A couple of
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: years ago, he had a play, and he played extremely well.
• 4:16
  Speaker 2: They took him off special teams, got a nice contract
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  Speaker 2: extension out of it, bounced around the league, Ravens, Chiefs, Rams, Niners.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: They needed him badly and he delivered big time. For
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: one to eleven. He caught six out of his seven
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: targets McCaffrey. It's interesting because they bottled them up. The
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: Eagles run defense was that was the only really good
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: part of their defense. But Q Mitchell had two picks
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: and all pro. By the way, congratulations to him both plays.
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: If you really look at pretty turned his head in
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: the facing pressure, which you can't do. That's an Eli
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: Manning move. You can't do that. But they got him
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: on the whatever you want to call it, the San
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: Francisco Special. That play worked.
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings won a throw. What a throw for the touchdown?
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: The San Francisco treat like Rayce a Roni. Yeah, now
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: here's where the game was lost. That was tough because
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: you know, the Niners again without Kittle, had trouble moving
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: the ball. They pull out a trick play. Okay, it happens,
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: all right, and then they go up seventeen sixteen. What
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: really hurt the Eagles to me was after Quinnon Mitchell
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: picks off Purty for the second time, the Eagles get
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: the ball, they drive, I mean, they're going, well, they
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: should go up a touchdown there. I mean, this is
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: the Eagles offense. It's the most expensive offense in the league.
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: And then they have to settle for a field goal
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: because on a first and ten you get a Barkley
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: no gain. All right, he gets hurt almost I thought
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: he was gonna hurt, be hurting bad. Yeah, look bad,
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: look bad, Tyler Steen got banged up. But then second
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: and ten incomplete the dots And now I know people
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: wanted pass interference on that play. That ball was so
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: poorly underthrown. Though I'm not gonna kill it hurts too much.
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think he a bad game, but that was
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: an underthrown ball. And now you're in third and ten
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: and the Eagles have lived lived. If you listen to
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: inside the data on Inside the Birds, you know the
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: Eagles have been in third and long this year more
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: than third and short and third and medium combined, and
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: their percentage rate is like twenty five percent of I mean,
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: the whole league's percentage rate on third and long is
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: not good. But the Eagles especially aren't good and they
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: could not cut. They had a centle for the field goal,
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: and Adam that right there is where I said, uh oh,
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: you now let them hang around. Now you're only up
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: by two, there's still about eight minutes left in the game.
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: And that's where I really felt the Eagles lost a
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: chance to put the dagger in that team.
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just didn't take advantage of field position and
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: turnovers forced it. Just that was this thing was mind boggling.
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: When you win the turnover battle, you know, in the playoffs,
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: you should be winning it. And by the way Eagles finished,
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: including the playoffs and extremely disappointing five and four at home. Wow,
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: hard to believe. Hard to believe, Yeah.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: Very very But you know, and I wrote this too.
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, again, we could have seen a lot of
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: these warts coming because they were there all year. But
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: the Eagles played a brutal schedule at them. They played
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: a brutal schedule and won a lot of big games
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: against opponents as good as talented, if not more than
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. But you hate to be the
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure everybody feel this way. We're not trying
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: to be preaching the whole I told yourself thing. But
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: anybody could have seen this coming. You know that if
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: you just don't put it together over eighteen weeks, you know,
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni said something about we're really starting to feel identity.
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: No you weren't, No, you were. Everybody knew that. That
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: was just that was coach speak. There is no identity
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: in this offense. It's the run game. But well that's
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But identity is a bad one is
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: that their run game is not working.
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: Well. It actually did in this game to a degree.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: But it's funny when you look at Barkley's number should
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: go well, he had over one hundred yards, but it
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: didn't feel like it. I mean, he had some really
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: nice runs. But what happened was as the game progression,
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: the second here we go again, negative yards, gets hit,
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: falls down. It's just you can't get over. They couldn't
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: get out of their own way. Pass pro was not
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: the problem. Drop passes Barkley round bad one, real bad
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: one over the middle. That's got to get caught. Smitty's
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: last one, I say, should have had it. You could
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: see different views. People good debate whether you should have
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: caught it. Or not. Can't have drop passes, man, they
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: can't afford it. Yep, it's this is one of those
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: situations where you got to come through when it matters,
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: and too many players do not come through in this game.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right on Barkley. I mean, going over one
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: hundred yards is nice, and had had too many. But
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: overall the team averaged three nine to carry. That's just
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: that's not good. You know, Bigsby came in give them
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but it hurts. Now, some people thought
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: Hurts was saving the run game, the quarterback run game
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: for the playoffs. Folks, they don't do that. You know,
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: you do what you are what you are.
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: That was funny when I saw that, I'm like, really,
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: you really think they're doing that.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not just gonna pull out six or seven
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: things and use them frequently that they didn't use. Now,
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: he didn't have one run, but of course the Cam
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: Jurgens penalty held it back. But that's that was a
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: run out of spread. They've been doing that, you know,
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: that's sort of their one to two plays per game
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: that they tried to spring him on and a couple
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: of times the forty nine ers were ready for it
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: and clogged the middle. So there's a lot of work
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: to do for this team, Adam, a lot of you know,
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: we didn't even talk about this Lane Johnson, you know,
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: you and I in the pregame show said and I'm
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: not I'm not even sure at this point that Lane
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: Johnson being healthier and not as the difference, because they've
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: had plenty of poor offensive performances this year with Lane.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: But the point is when he couldn't be a full
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: participate in practice after what seven or eight weeks of
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: the sideline, Yeah, I mean that that's that's that's that's
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: just a bad sign. It's just been a really rough
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: season for the Eagles offensive line.
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh. The list, the list fronk spray and
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: the midfoot spraying is top. Remember we had Aaron Borgan
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: on the former Chiefs and Eagles assistant athletic trainer, and
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: he made it clear if he played, it could be
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: a different, different clead. It would be hard to anchor
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: and set. It just would be really really difficult. And
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: that that's quite frankly what went up happening. And I
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: guess he just wasn't ready. But although I thought late
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: in the week Okay, he's least he's working. Maybe he
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: can get the pregame warm ups get through it. But
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: that didn't happen for Johnson, started for him. But overall,
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: on your point, they just they just could not get
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: in any kind of rhythm. Right when you thought it
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: was starting to happen, they'd bogged down, penalty drop, mispass,
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: missed opportunity. I'm not blaming the win, by the way,
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: although I thought it was interesting. They tried. They tried
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: the shot play the deep post. I mean it hurts
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: through it. I mean, I don't know how many yards.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: It seemed like fifty yards. Brown couldn't get it. And
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: then of course we had the little little dust up
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: with uh with Nick and aj on the sideline that
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: would which was interesting. Yeah, but Nick told Aaron Andrews,
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: no big deal, that everything's fine. Okay, let's see what
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: happens come March.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: We will see. You know, you make a great point.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: There is something so sort of mind boggling about how
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: this offense can just at times in the same game,
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: right like go back to you know, they score a
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: touchdown early, that was nice, nice creative usage of Dallas Gotter,
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: and then they kind of revert back to two drives
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: of Blair and then all of a sudden in the
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: in the second quarter, right you get like third and
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: nine dots in fall starts third and fourteen, and then
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: you three see a beautiful pass from Hurts to DeVante
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Smith on the spread formation again, so they move the
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: chains first down and then you get the oh no, no,
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: that was that. That was thirty twelve yards and then
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: Hurts ran for the first down, and then he made
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: another really nice throw, and then he makes another throw
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: and then they get a good run and then nine
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: yard touchdown passed together.
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: Then yeah, you're right, It's like it's there.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: It's there. And sometimes it makes me think, like they
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: work so hard to try to get that run identity,
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: but it seemed like when they wanted to pass the
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: ball at the end of halves, or when they were
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: even in the end of this game, right when they
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: were marching down the field, Nick Siriane says, I don't
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: trust my defense. On fourth and five. What happens he
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: had three byally had three timeouts and two minutes and
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: eight seconds left, or maybe even more. I thought he
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: was gonna punk there, and but no, he says, no,
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I don't trust my defense, and they get
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: a fifteen yard catch, a nice throw from Hurts to Goddard.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: So it's like, why is it that they can be
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: so prolific When they decide they want to pass, they
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: can pass. But then when they decide they want to
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: go back to that balance and run, and then they
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: get behind the sticks and run and they can't.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: They had Barklay and I really look forward to this
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: week's coming up here the inside of the tape show
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: because it just seemed to me and Barkley again had
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: a nice game, but amber of them we're not blockwell
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: where he had to make it on his own.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: And that's just that the story of this season if IF,
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: and we'll get to that in another show coming up.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: We got plenty of time on other shows in the future.
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: A lot is you know, if you had if IF
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: if you can put in the comments if you want,
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: if you want to rank your most ten disappointing things.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: I just cannot believe the offensive line of the season.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: It just this wasn't one of the worst games. Yeah,
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: that would be again, Barclay had to do some things
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: on his own. Past projection seemed to be pretty decent,
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: which has been the story quite frankly, the run block
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: for the most part, it's but terrible the season, but
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: overall it's uh, it's the run blocking to me, overall
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: has been one of those things that I'll just never understand.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: I we could use, we have all, We've listed the
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: answers throughout the season. It's not a mystery to us
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: because we have physical, physical conditioning, coming off surgery, all
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: this stuff. But to be this bad, come on anyway.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: Shock jockey. And I know, I know that people are
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: gonna respond. You said they're gonna leave comments.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: They're gonna cious.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: We're gonna say Number one is Petullo. I know they will,
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: and it's fair. He did not do a good job,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: but you have I would implore everyone to remember this
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: that Kevin Botulo is the only Eagles offensive coordinator since
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni became head coach to not have a viable
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: run game and elite offensive line. So he is the
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: only offensive coordinator to have to constantly deal with living
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: in third and long. Now, if you think it's his
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: fault for that, because he didn't come up with good
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: enough run game where he and the staff didn't again
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: take an account, like you just said, the offensive line
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: and always the penalties to those are bad. Those are
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: on Nick. You gotta have a you gotta run a
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: tighter ship. There's no reason with as many veterans and
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: incumbents from a super Bowl team that the Eagles had,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: that the Eagles should have been I think it was
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: fourth in the NFL and accepted penalties. There's no reason
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: for that, no reason you should have two false starts
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: at home. I mean, that's just ridiculus. So you can
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: put Patola at the top of your list and we'll
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: see what happens, you know, in this all season. But
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: remember that he is the only Eagles offensive coordinator to
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: not have a run game.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: I know, But again, what the thing that you can't
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: wrap your hand around with a J Brown, Devonte Smith
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: and Gotter has a career year. By the way, it hurts.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: It made some good throws and it was not uneven
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: game for him, but he made some good throws. And
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Barkley that they could be this and apt offensively and
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: to lead the NFL in three and ounce Are you serious?
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, how the hell has that happened? This team
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: with this talent I just can't imagine what the owner
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: who loves offense, who wants a world class offense is thinking.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Right now. We saw two years ago one pretty when
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: they showed him in the butt in the booth, that
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: in the in the in the box, and that that
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: against the Bucks. And this one is even more humilating.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: It's at home.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not good. Yeah, you had the most expensive offense
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: in the NFL coming up flat, scoring nineteen points at
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: home going the final. I guess it was like thirty
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: six minutes of the game without just three points against
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: an offense that had no Brandon Ayuk, no Ricky Pierce,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: all lost George Kittle early in the game, averaged three
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: yards per run and was basically throwing the ball to
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson, Kyle Yushik, and Christian McCaffrey. Ow mcaffre's good.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: But guys, like, what's your favorite guy? You're tight end, my.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Boy, Jake tongues. Don't call him tongues, see tongue ridiculous.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Absolutely beats in many tongue. He catches in many tongues
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: at him.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: So let me ask you this question, because we've talked
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: about the offensive line every season has a personality. You
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: could say, this is what happened that season? What is
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: the season going to be known for that?
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Well, honestly, that that offensive line and their inability to
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: run and their their constant desire to run even though
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: they couldn't. They were not adjustable.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, would you not say, I would say missed opportunities?
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: A ton of them, nauseum. Can't can't even count that high.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: It seems like hundreds of Just now. I saw them
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: YouTube comments. I was looking at the other day and
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: they're they were right. You could you could pat yourself
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: on the back. They won't because you know, the pessimist
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: is the pessimists from Philly.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: We get anyone.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I was born here. I know it.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: You know you because you've seen it. I understand your
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: feelings because we have to talk about it and watch
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: this junk. Okay, that's the painful part. We had to
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: watch it two years ago. This is embarrassing. I mean,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I just we're not even fans and we're embarrassed by it.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: It's just it was, it was.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: It's a tough. Watch it Greg, our friend Greg.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Watch Yeah, it's Greg. What's it? So let me ask
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: you this.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: You were in the locker room after the game. Uh,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: you know I could. I was to rewrite my entire story,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: so I didn't. Yeah, from what I understood, it was
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: kind of a work down there.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: It would be, because I mean, this is how long
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: ago I remember. I remember being in the locker in
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: twenty ten whatever it was twenty ten the Mirkle and
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Meatlands two and Tom Coughlin went off on the punter
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: of the Giants and then to go to both locker
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: rooms because I had to, I had to run a
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: game story and just to see the humiliation of one
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: locker room the jubilation or the other. I just imagined
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: that the Notedge playing on with house money that the
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: minute I'm you know, it's they're not going to confident
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: that they could win. But reality is they just don't
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: have enough talent. They should have won. And then but
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: they did give them tons of credit, as you said earlier.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And then you've got the Eagles who've got all this talent.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Very healthy team, by the way, other than Lane Okay,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Brett Toth was an active due to his concussion, but
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: he's not a starter. But to be this inept on offense,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: it's just hard to believe.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not accepting any excuses for this. I'm just not.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: You got to be better. And it starts with the
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: head coach. We we don't know about Petulla. That that's
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: that's low hanging fruit in terms of criticism. We don't
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: need to go there anymore. We've done that, everyone's done it.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: But it starts with the head coach. And it's your scheme, buddy,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: it's your scheme. How much longer could you run this junk?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, we we've called out a high school offense.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I think Greg said that. We've talked to so many
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: teams to say this scheme is awful. They didn't mention Petula.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: They just because they're going by coaching team. That's all
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: they cold look at. They don't back to the egals
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: practice date and when when when advanced people tell us, God,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: this is really bad. What this is like one of
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: the worst schemes we've seen.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I geez, which, by the way, people have said
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: for a couple of years Eagles were able to accomplish.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's the same King, So this is run
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: last year, that's all. This is something I think we're
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: going to talk about a lot going forward, right, And
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: it's a unique situation, right, Nick Sirianni is an offensive coach,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: but he's not a play caller. He didn't call plays
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: with the Colts, and he gave it up early in
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: his first year and basically was said like that, this
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: is not my strength. I'd rather give it to somebody else.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: And I feel like I feel like this is a
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: unique situation for offensive head coaches because most of them
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: usually are play callers and they can throw a life preserver.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: This is going to be a bad example because people
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: are gonna say, but that team didn't win. But you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: when Dan Campbell didn't like what was going on with
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: his offense, he could take over play calling and he
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: certainly had more better offense from down to down than
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the Eagles are shown this year. They just they also
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: had a bad defense, gave up a lot of point
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: but they there were game where they scored a lot
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: of points sure, and didn't win. Nick Siriani can't do
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: that right now. And this is why maybe one of
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the offseason needs is a senior offensive advisor plays because
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: look at Andy Reid, Right, Andy Ree's a great play caller,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: but even he know many times we've talked about he's
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: gotten into a rut and he's handed it off and
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: then somebody else is taking the reins and run. They
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: did it Marty, but I think he did it to
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: childrens too. He told me he's talked about that a
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: couple of time.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: The point is he could do give and then he
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: could take it back. He could, he could get a
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: life preserver, but then he can be the life preserver,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and Nick Sirianni can't be that, and he's gonna lose
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: because the team is generally well built and successful. He's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: losing a lot of coordinators and he probably will in
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the future if the Eagles get back. But he can't
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: be the life preserver. And this is a problem, and
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: this is why they need somebody in that room without
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: overdoing it, without getting twenty twenty Eagles, where you got
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Marty and you got Skangerloe and you got Briner and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you got right. You can't overdo it right, right. So
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to advocate for this whole committee approach
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: because that's dangerous too. But they just need someone who
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: can call plays and well and has the experience doing
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: it to help out the play caller if he needs.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'd mentioned that after the Buffalo game when Nick
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: opened a can of worms. Maybe I felt like I
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: was like the only one who sought this way. You're
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: basically admitting when because he said that he when he
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: said Kevin needs help, then he goes Then I guess whatever.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: The reporter was asked him for a follow up because, well,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: but I also have to coach the team. It's pretty difficult. Well, dude,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you should have known this in the beginning. We said
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: this in twenty twenty one when he was hired, because
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: we did some homework on Nick who he had a
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: ways to go as a coach, and it showed, you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: early on he's trying to figure it out with you
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: just mentioned the play calling, and to his credit, that
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: was phenomena. They gave it up around half season to
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Stike and like how many coaches would do that. I thought.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I was very impressed by that, and it worked. Obviously,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: it really worked, and Shane was great. He skelted things
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: down and help hurts out. And remember they came out
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: trying to throw like crazy in the beginning. It was
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: like you're trying to skip steps here, and they scaled
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: things down they were better, and you saw how great
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: it Hurts was in twenty two. But remve this along here.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: You as a head coach have to know what's working,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: what's not, and what you need. No matter who the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: play caller is this coming season in twenty six, you
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: better have some help. You better have a there's a
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: saying with coaches it's called an idea guy. Someone who
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: could step in and tap your shoulder and go, hey, hey, hey, hey,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: slow down a little bit. This is what Kevin Stefanski
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: told me when he hired Kevin Rodgers. When they got
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: there in twenty twenty. He was a I guess he
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: coached with him with the Vikings. He felt he needed that,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: he needed voice of reason to bounce stuff off of. Well,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Nick couldn't bounce stuff off anyone because he felt he
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: was coaching and he couldn't do it. On your point,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: That's what I brought up three weeks ago, like this
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: is a mistake, but you know you have to go
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: through the course of a season and see where you're
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: you're delinquent and where things are not working. And to
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: do this along here. It was so up and down
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the season more down it up with her offense. And
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: then the other thing is, and we'll get to this
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: in offseason shows, what are you going to do to
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: improve not not only from a play calling standard, a
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: schematic standpoint, what are you to do to improve the
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: talent level their offensive line? Because you're locked into a
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: lot of big deals. Yep, and that's something that these
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: and I understand, they're beat up from a big season,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: last year's super well run, so they got a long
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: they got a long ways to go here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it would be Andrew and I Roosevelt Bulvard. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned that on Tuesday at six pmmes,
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• 29:26
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• 29:29
  Speaker 2: a very good head coach. He's not without fault. Obviously,
• 29:33
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• 29:40
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• 29:42
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