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Credlin | 27 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to show. Here's what's coming up tonight
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Speaker 2: on Kredlin. National Pride is back, millions celebrating Australia Day
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Speaker 2: and the professional haters failing to get the crowds they
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Speaker 2: hoped for. We're turning the tide as yet more Poulcho.
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Speaker 2: People want to put the division behind them and to
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Speaker 2: acknowledge just how much we have to celebrate in this country.
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Speaker 2: The Auschwitz delegation continues to play labor shameless comments from
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Speaker 2: Mark Drayfus when it comes to the anger people have
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Speaker 2: over Penny Wong's attendance and the Prime Minister found wanting
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Speaker 2: yet again after hopelessly failing to call out anti Semitism.
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Speaker 2: Plus speaking about rageous I'll play you the audio of
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Speaker 2: a Till candidate at the upcoming federal election taking part
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Speaker 2: in a Hitler comedy session on the ABC. Plus the
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Speaker 2: hypocrisy of graceless, grace, tame and that T shirt she
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Speaker 2: wore to the lodge. Apocrisy from the Prime Minister two
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Speaker 2: who's pretending now he thought it was offensive but didn't
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Speaker 2: say a thing about it at the time, and despite
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Speaker 2: all his desperate campaigning over the summer. The first news
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Speaker 2: part of the year spells disaster for Anthony Albertezi and Labor.
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Speaker 2: The PM desperate defined a narrative that will cut through.
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Speaker 3: Labour can form government after the next selection, and we
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Speaker 3: are the only political party that is even trying to
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Speaker 3: form government in our own right.
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Speaker 2: It's becoming increasingly clear that Australians can't afford another three
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Speaker 2: years of Labor trying to.
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Speaker 3: Start and turn off.
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Speaker 4: They've given up on this government as a closing down
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Speaker 4: sail every time Anthony Alberanezi opens his.
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Speaker 2: Mouth, but first after an Australia Day yesterday, spent out
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Speaker 2: in the real world where people love their country and
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Speaker 2: their flag. I've come back to the studio tonight feeling
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Speaker 2: a lot more optimistic than I have for some time now.
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Speaker 2: A lot of this I put down to the Voice
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Speaker 2: where finally the silent majority spoke and having realize they're
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Speaker 2: not alone, they are now unwilling to just let the
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Speaker 2: hard left minority dominate the Australian debate.
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Speaker 5: We love our country and there's no other country like it.
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Speaker 2: I love Australian, I'm.
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Speaker 6: Australians and celebrating what Australia is all about, Like just
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Speaker 6: everyone just getting together and having a good time.
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Speaker 2: Freedom, the sun and equality.
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Speaker 7: I'm a proud Australian and I think we should all
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Speaker 7: celebrate this day.
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Speaker 2: Isn't she gorgeous? Everyday Australians standing up and speaking out
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Speaker 2: and it really feels like they're taking back their country.
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Speaker 2: Maybe two, there's a Trump factor playing out here. He's
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Speaker 2: certainly shaking things up amongst the politically correct crowds, So
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Speaker 2: maybe that's why Australians are taking heart from his success,
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Speaker 2: whatever it is. Yesterday, there was far less angst and
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Speaker 2: ambivalence about our celebration of Australia Day. There were larger
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Speaker 2: than usual crowds at the big celebrations around Sydney Harbor
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Speaker 2: and Bondive Beach, at Melbourne's Federation Square, Brisbane's New Farm Park,
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Speaker 2: and elsewhere around the country as well. At least some
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Speaker 2: of the councils that were previously refusing to hold citizenship
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Speaker 2: ceremonies on our national Day had bowed to popular pressure,
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Speaker 2: because what better day could there be to become a
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Speaker 2: new Australian than Australia Day. Not only has the IBA
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Speaker 2: polling shown that support for celebrating Australia Day on January
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Speaker 2: twenty six has grown by six percent to almost seventy
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Speaker 2: percent over the past year. But polling in the Nine
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Speaker 2: Papers has also shown a big leap in support for
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Speaker 2: January twenty six, from forty seven percent two years ago
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Speaker 2: to sixty one percent now. Naturally, that hasn't stopped the haters,
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Speaker 2: but their numbers are falling away. New South Wales police
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Speaker 2: estimated that an Invasion Day crowd so called that Sydney's
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Speaker 2: Belmore Park was about half of last year's numbers, and
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Speaker 2: only about half of the numbers expected bothered to turn
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Speaker 2: up to the protest march in Melbourne. You'll notice the
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Speaker 2: presence at the Melbourne march of the Palestinian flag, no
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Speaker 2: less prominent than the Aboriginal one. So this was really
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Speaker 2: a renter crowd, the same idiots who glue themselves to Rhodes,
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Speaker 2: alongside a whole lot of angst written adolescence, too busy
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Speaker 2: to be outraged about getting any understanding of our history,
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Speaker 2: our history in Australia or that of the Middle East.
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Speaker 2: Ignorant and indignant. What a combination, Well, how refreshing was
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Speaker 2: it for me yesterday? To be in the company of
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of young people who love their country,
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Speaker 2: love their flag, and they're fed up with their activist
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Speaker 2: peers too. So take our ass in my message tonight,
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Speaker 2: because the tide is well and truly turning. And a
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Speaker 2: good part of that in recent months was Peter Dutton's
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Speaker 2: insistence here on my program that we are one people
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Speaker 2: under one flag, and that it's not only okay but
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Speaker 2: important that we celebrate our country and our blessings.
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Speaker 6: I am so proud to have been here today with
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Speaker 6: young Australians, with older Australians, but people who are committed
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Speaker 6: to our country, who want a better life for their
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Speaker 6: children and grandchildren. We do live in the best country
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Speaker 6: in the world, and today is an opportunity to celebrate
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Speaker 6: what that means.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday, the Opposition leader spent Australia Day in his electorate,
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Speaker 2: but extraordinarily that led the Prime Minister to accuse him
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Speaker 2: of snubbing our national Day.
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Speaker 3: I'm here on Australia Day and it's that Peter Dutton
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Speaker 3: isn't here. I think that the National Australia Day events
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Speaker 3: should be attended by both sides of the Parliament.
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Speaker 2: I was sorry the Blocus stands behind three flags and
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Speaker 2: wanted to divide us all by race in the Constitution
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Speaker 2: is giving the defender of our flag and a colorblind
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Speaker 2: constant a constitution a serve on national TV on our
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Speaker 2: national Day. Honestly, Copa Cabana is calling you elbow and
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Speaker 2: your strategists are wondering why. More and more, Peter Dutton
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Speaker 2: is seen as the Prime Minister in waiting. That's why.
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Speaker 2: That is absolutely why all right. For months now, the
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Speaker 2: Abenezi government struggling in the polls. It started with the
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Speaker 2: defeat of the PM's pet project, The Voice, and as
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Speaker 2: our cost of living has gone up, he's standing in
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Speaker 2: the polls have gone south pole after poll and it's
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Speaker 2: hard to see how the Prime Minister can turn this around.
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Speaker 2: The latest Today's News poll again has the Coalition just
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Speaker 2: ahead of Labor fifty one to forty nine on a
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Speaker 2: two party preferred basis. Just as significant is dutton steady
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Speaker 2: rise as preferred Prime Minister. Now, this usually only happens
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Speaker 2: when voters are starting to consider changing the government. Then
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Speaker 2: there's the big slump six points in the PM's net favorability.
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Speaker 2: It's now a woeful minus twenty. But the big change.
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Speaker 2: The new change today is that a majority of voters
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Speaker 2: now expect the Coalition to win the next election, either
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Speaker 2: in their own right or with the support of independence.
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Speaker 2: The job now of the Coalition is to make sure
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Speaker 2: everyone yet to move their way knows who Peter Dutton
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Speaker 2: is and what the Coalition stands for. And that's the
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Speaker 2: whole point behind this personal ad about the man that
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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party launched today.
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Speaker 6: As a young police officer, I saw the best and
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Speaker 6: worst of our society. It could be confronting at times,
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Speaker 6: but sometimes we were the only thing between vulnerable people
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Speaker 6: and serious harm. So I learned the importance of always
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Speaker 6: turning up and getting on with the job. As a minister,
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Speaker 6: I learned that a strong economy and a safe community
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Speaker 6: are central to everything. That you sometimes need to stand
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Speaker 6: up to vested interests and always make decisions in our
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Speaker 6: national interest. The right decisions aren't always popular, but I'm
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Speaker 6: not interested in taking the easy path because we live
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Speaker 6: in the best country in the world and I'm determined
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Speaker 6: to get Australia back on track.
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Speaker 2: Given it's been almost a century since we've seen the
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Speaker 2: defeat of a first term government, Dutton is still the
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Speaker 2: underdog Labour's got much more firepower. It's got the union
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Speaker 2: volunteers and the union millions and millions in donations. It's
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Speaker 2: got much of the media behind them, and a whole
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Speaker 2: lot of influential corporate types as well. Plus Labor play
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Speaker 2: at heart. There's not a scare campaign that's beneath them
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Speaker 2: that they wouldn't run. And believe me, I've fought them
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Speaker 2: for twenty years in Canberra, so to underestimate labor is
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Speaker 2: naive and stupid. What's changing things up for the is
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Speaker 2: is that they have really cut through with Australians feeling
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Speaker 2: let down and left behind the seats where a labor
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Speaker 2: MP might represent them but doesn't care enough to even
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Speaker 2: live in the electric And there are dozens and dozens
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Speaker 2: of examples of this people too that work hard with
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Speaker 2: their hands to earn a living. The old labor working
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Speaker 2: class long abandon now as Labour tries to outgreen the greens.
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Speaker 2: Today is International Holocaust Remembrance Day and the eighty year
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Speaker 2: anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, one of the most
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Speaker 2: horrific concentration death camps in what was their Nazi occupied Poland. Today,
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Speaker 2: in a too little, too late gesture, the Albenezy governments
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Speaker 2: pledged six point four million dollars to build the Holocaust
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Speaker 2: education centers in Canberra and in wa A Sure, PM,
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Speaker 2: let's remember yesterday's anti semitism as we must. What about
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Speaker 2: combating what's happening today under your watch?
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Speaker 3: There is no place for this hateful ideology here in
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Speaker 3: Australia or indeed anywhere else. Today, of all days, when
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Speaker 3: we commemorate eighty years since the liberation of Oschwitzen Oschwitz
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Speaker 3: Burke and our.
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Speaker 2: What hollow words from the ultimate hollow man. The Foreign
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Speaker 2: Minister he sent to our Schwitz to the Oith anniversary event,
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Speaker 2: is the one and sane woman who's directing Australia to
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Speaker 2: vote against Israel at the UN shame Well, it's got
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Speaker 2: a campronoun. It's public holiday around the nation, not here
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Speaker 2: on Sky News, not before all can Redden. He's with
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Speaker 2: us now from Canberra.
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Speaker 5: Docking in Fremantle. The Prime Minister pledges seven hundred million
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Speaker 5: dollars to upgrade the Quanana Freeway.
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Speaker 3: We are working hard and fighting hard every day.
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Speaker 5: It's his twenty eighth visit to Western Australia as leader,
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Speaker 5: the state that delivered him nine seats and a majority
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Speaker 5: three years ago.
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Speaker 3: We will be campaigning to form a majority Labor government
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Speaker 3: and we I believe that we will be in a
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Speaker 3: position to do so.
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Speaker 5: But a summer slump has continued, with the First News
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Speaker 5: poll of twenty twenty five showing a two percent drop
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Speaker 5: in Labour's primary support and the Coalition regaining its two
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Speaker 5: party lead at fifty one percent two forty nine. Peter
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Speaker 5: Dutton has closed the gap as preferred Prime Minister, trailing
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Speaker 5: now by just three points. Some opposition MPs, though, are
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Speaker 5: still working on their lines.
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Speaker 8: He's a strong leader, He's a device, sorry, decisive leader.
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Speaker 5: The National's leader openly weighing up potential partners in a
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Speaker 5: minority government.
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Speaker 2: Bob catter and Dale and Rebecca Sharky. But even even
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Speaker 2: a leg respender, I think is understood. She's getting rid
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Speaker 2: of up talking about trying to save the planet. Now
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Speaker 2: she's understood. It's about trying to save the strillons wallets.
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Speaker 5: Marking eighty years since the liberation of Auschwitz, the government
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Speaker 5: commits four point four million dollars to a new National
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Speaker 5: Holocaust Education Center.
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Speaker 9: To get into the youngest minds that hatred, violence and
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Speaker 9: racism is not acceptable.
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Speaker 5: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: All right for more of those news poll numbers and
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of other big stories today, joined now
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Speaker 2: by Cam Reddin and the Daily Tellergraphs journalist James Willis
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Speaker 2: Gens welcome this certain news poll the first time a
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Speaker 2: majority of voters expect the Coalition to win the federal election,
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Speaker 2: coinciding to with that new positioning ad we just saw
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Speaker 2: there from the Liberal Party. I tell you Cam, you
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Speaker 2: know if you don't define yourself in politics, your opponent
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Speaker 2: will do it for you. So I suspect that's what's
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Speaker 2: behind a Liberal campaign team messaging here, isn't it.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I was getting some flashbacks Peter too. I think it
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Speaker 5: was twenty eighteen during the Turnbull spill when Peter Dutton
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Speaker 5: said he wanted to show a slightly different side of himself,
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Speaker 5: smile a little bit more. I know the Prime Minister's
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Speaker 5: never let him forget that phrase. You do have to
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Speaker 5: do this in a campaign. There are a few more
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Speaker 5: smiling faces and handshakes and high fives in this one,
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Speaker 5: because it can't be all about the hard policy issues,
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Speaker 5: as much as of course they do matter. You do
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Speaker 5: need to show Australians that you're a human being. So
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Speaker 5: I suspect that's part of what this new ad campaign
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Speaker 5: is about today. On the broader narrative though, Peter, and
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Speaker 5: one undercurrent that we've looked at a little bit today
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Speaker 5: now that both leaders have been back on deck for
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Speaker 5: a couple of weeks, there is a clear theme emerging
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Speaker 5: about this pre election campaign period and that is very
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Speaker 5: much that we are seeing the Coalition on the ascendancy,
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Speaker 5: on the attack and the government having to play defensive
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Speaker 5: across the country. I had to look at just the
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Speaker 5: seat visits that the leaders have made over the last
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Speaker 5: fortnight and it is just red seats across the board.
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Speaker 5: There is only one seat, Peter, in the last fortnight
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Speaker 5: where the Prime Minister has visited that is not playing
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Speaker 5: defensive in a labor seat. That was Brad And in
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Speaker 5: Tasmania a possible pick up because an MP there is
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Speaker 5: retiring a long time liberal. Everywhere else, the Coalition has
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Speaker 5: been on the attack in marginal labor seats, teal seats,
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Speaker 5: green seats. That is the theme that's emerging here and
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Speaker 5: it's reflected again in the newspoll numbers today that the
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Speaker 5: Coalition is gaining in confidence. They feel there were real
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Speaker 5: chance here right across the board and Labor is having
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Speaker 5: to try and play defense before you even think about
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Speaker 5: where they might pick up a seat or two to
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Speaker 5: try and hang on two majority government. So of course
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Speaker 5: there's a proper campaign to play out, but that is
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Speaker 5: the theme emerging in these early weeks of the year.
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Speaker 2: TKM. You could be a political staffer with that sort
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Speaker 2: of analysis. That's exactly what I used to look at
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Speaker 2: this early in the preseason before the campaign. I'll also
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Speaker 2: make the point for people at home. You know, at
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Speaker 2: the last election, if you look at Labour's primary vote,
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Speaker 2: only three out of ten Australians voted for Anthony Albanesi.
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Speaker 2: Seven out of ten Australians did not. And this is
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Speaker 2: a first term government usually that way higher because you
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Speaker 2: come in on a landslide and he got out James
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Speaker 2: all over the summer. He worked hard, but it looks like,
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Speaker 2: you know, the more they saw of Anthony I went easy,
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Speaker 2: the worst it's hit his numbers. You know, maybe he
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Speaker 2: needs to sort of put his feet up and shut
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Speaker 2: the door and stay at home because actually getting out
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Speaker 2: there is impacting that net satisfaction number. He dropped a
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Speaker 2: massive six points. He's also you know, basically double where
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Speaker 2: the opposition leader is. Whatever he's selling, whatever the PM's selling.
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Speaker 2: Photers aren't buying, are they.
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Speaker 7: Well, that's right, and Peter clearly he was warned by
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Speaker 7: advisors to stay away from the very nice sporting events
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Speaker 7: over the last few weeks. I heard last night in
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Speaker 7: the Australian Open final Richard Marles. Was there no mention
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Speaker 7: of the Prime Minister Anthony Albernezi He would have been
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Speaker 7: there in previous years. But certainly the polling and you
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Speaker 7: make a really good point if you look back to
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty two, it wasn't a case of one of
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Speaker 7: these all time historic labor victories like Kevin I seven
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Speaker 7: or Bob Hawk where labor rom time. I mean, it
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Speaker 7: was more about Scott Morrison losing than it was about
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Speaker 7: Anthony Alvin easy winning and so one in three I
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Speaker 7: was his last time voted labor. You look at the
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Speaker 7: polling now some poles have the labor primary vote one
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Speaker 7: I read from a few weeks ago at twenty seven percent.
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Speaker 7: The Prime Minister's approval rating is the big problem. Leadership
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Speaker 7: preferred PM. I think they're all massive issues moving forward
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Speaker 7: and despite being on this campaign, those numbers are going backwards.
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Speaker 7: For Peter Dunton, it really is about this small target approach.
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Speaker 7: And I make this point the last two weeks, Peter,
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Speaker 7: I've spoken to dozens of small businesses for a story
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Speaker 7: we're working on at the Daily Telegraph now. The overwhelming
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Speaker 7: feedback is obviously energy, the wage bill, which has obviously
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Speaker 7: been pushed by Labor.
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Speaker 10: There's been major changes.
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Speaker 7: To IR over the last few years. The increases the
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Speaker 7: cost of things like a barista have really forced businesses
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Speaker 7: to actually scale back the hours that they can put
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Speaker 7: people on, or force the small business owner back on
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Speaker 7: the tools.
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Speaker 10: That's what they're all talking about.
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Speaker 7: And the other thing is for every economist and every
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Speaker 7: elite journalist that bags Peter Dutton's tax cut in terms
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Speaker 7: of the meal allowance for small business for entertainment, for
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Speaker 7: every economist that.
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Speaker 10: Bags it, there's five small businesses.
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Speaker 7: Saying, hey, you know what, we haven't had a tax
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Speaker 7: break in a long period of time.
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Speaker 10: It's actually a good idea.
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Speaker 7: So there's plenty of game to be had there, on
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Speaker 7: top of migration, on top of energy and of course nuclear.
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Speaker 7: The other point i'd make Peter Labour might want to
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Speaker 7: have a look at it. Social media profiles for the
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Speaker 7: Prime Minister, Chris Bowen and some other senior labor people,
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Speaker 7: because for every video they're putting out, there's hundreds of
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Speaker 7: comments that are going in actually whacking them and criticizing them.
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Speaker 7: So someone in labor HK doing some moderation there because
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Speaker 7: they're not getting a fair go.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's terrible.
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Speaker 2: I have noticed that too. Hey, just on that small
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Speaker 2: business tax break, you know, if you take your staff
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Speaker 2: or your clients out. Peter Dutton thinks the Coalition thinks
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Speaker 2: you should get a tax break for that. I'll make
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Speaker 2: the point. But if you're a big law firm or
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Speaker 2: you know, fancy corporate business and you do your entertaining
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Speaker 2: in the office, you get a tax break. But if
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Speaker 2: you're a small business and you want to take his
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Speaker 2: staff out for a surloin or a porthhouse or something
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Speaker 2: like that down the pub, you don't get the tax break.
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Speaker 2: So that's where there's an inequity, and I think that's
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Speaker 2: where he's headed. Hey, Kim, just quickly, Petty Wong of course,
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Speaker 2: and the ag Mark Dreyfus over at our Schwitz for
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Speaker 2: the commemoration service are Labor Life members in the media today,
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Speaker 2: Henry Pinsker telling the Australia and Labor's going to pay
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Speaker 2: a very heavy price at the ballot box for not
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Speaker 2: doing enough to act on anti semitism. But Mark Dreyfus
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Speaker 2: was extraordinary. He was out there criticizing people in the
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Speaker 2: media and the center right side of politics, accusing US
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Speaker 2: SAIR and the Coalition of politicizing this issue of anti Semitism.
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Speaker 2: What I mean, really and truly, look at what Petty
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Speaker 2: Wong has done in the United Nations, Look what Labor
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Speaker 2: has said months and months and months on the record
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Speaker 2: about what's happening in our country. I think I know
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Speaker 2: who's politicizing things.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's a very serious issue, Peter, and it's really
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Speaker 5: an inherently political one because when there are so many
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Speaker 5: anti Semitic attacks and incidents on Australian streets, people look
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Speaker 5: to their leaders, their politicians to respond and to do
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Speaker 5: something about that. And that means with words, with the
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Speaker 5: tone that you set, and with the action that you take.
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Speaker 5: So it's difficult to quarantine issues like this from politics altogether.
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Speaker 5: And I think only adding to that is the point
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Speaker 5: that there is now a point of difference between the
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Speaker 5: two major parties about the response we saw for weeks
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Speaker 5: and even go back thirteen months the coalition calling for
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Speaker 5: a national Cabinet to be convened. That language strengthened in
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Speaker 5: recent weeks calling for mandatory jail time for people who
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Speaker 5: fire bomb synagogues for example. Now that mandatory jail time
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Speaker 5: aspect is not something Labor has backed. So there is
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Speaker 5: a policy difference as well. And you point to other
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Speaker 5: issues as well, Peter. We think back to Friday Sky
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Speaker 5: and new has revealed this petition with nearly ten thousand
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Speaker 5: signatures at the time before we or anyone else even
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Speaker 5: reported on it. That have been put forward by a
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Speaker 5: Jewish Australian businesswoman saying Pennywong should not.
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Speaker 10: Go to Israel.
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Speaker 5: I should say to our Schwitz for this memorial event.
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Speaker 5: So you can't really quarantine these issues from politics, Peter,
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Speaker 5: when it is the response of the political class that
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Speaker 5: matters to people.
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Speaker 2: And when you look at where Labour's targeting seats in
20:23
Speaker 2: Western Sydney, and I think that's got a lot to
20:25
Speaker 2: do with their positioning. Hey, look Barly. A week into
20:28
Speaker 2: his new resurgence, US President Donald Trump says he wants
20:33
Speaker 2: other Arab nations like Jordan and Egypt to take in
20:36
Speaker 2: more Palestinian refugees as part of a plan, he says,
20:39
Speaker 2: to clean out Gaza. Now, this is very interesting because
20:44
Speaker 2: that's long been a discussion point here James willis why
20:49
Speaker 2: on earth does Australia take so many We've taken over
20:53
Speaker 2: three thousand Gazans or certainly issue the visas for them.
20:57
Speaker 2: The US has taken just seventeen. We know many of
20:59
Speaker 2: the names in and around Gaza have taken none refused
21:04
Speaker 2: to take any Gazans into their countries. Concerned about what
21:09
Speaker 2: sort of unrest might come of that. Trug weigh in
21:13
Speaker 2: here is important and I hope Canberra's taking notice to Yeah.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely. And the issue for US Peter, of course, is
21:23
Speaker 10: that when the Prime Minister.
21:24
Speaker 7: Was asked about this a few days ago, he had
21:26
Speaker 7: an opportunity to rule it out or to speak in
21:29
Speaker 7: terms to say, look, we're going to look after Australians first,
21:32
Speaker 7: and instead his first response to that question when you
21:36
Speaker 7: read the transcript was look, where focused on what Palestinian
21:39
Speaker 7: people want? Well, he should be focused on what Australian
21:42
Speaker 7: people want, and at a time heading into an election
21:45
Speaker 7: when ultimately, every time the Prime Minister says something in
21:49
Speaker 7: favor of Israel, he's got to look at the other
21:50
Speaker 7: sides of the labor caucus.
21:51
Speaker 10: He's got to make sure that the branches are happy.
21:54
Speaker 7: I mean, this is a really good opportunity for him
21:55
Speaker 7: to say, look, unfortunately at this stage, this is not
21:58
Speaker 7: in Australia's best interest and we be moving that way.
22:01
Speaker 7: But it was another clear moment of where the PM
22:04
Speaker 7: is frozen on what to do with the Middle East
22:06
Speaker 7: because of the yawning gap in labor and when you've
22:09
Speaker 7: got these anti Semitic acts happening every couple of weeks,
22:13
Speaker 7: when you've had Childcares and his fire bonb in Sydney,
22:16
Speaker 7: there's a perception growing that the PM is really soft
22:19
Speaker 7: on these issues, soft on crime, soft on migration. Labor's
22:22
Speaker 7: big Australia. So yeah, ultimately he didn't handle that well.
22:25
Speaker 7: But this would be a really easy one for him
22:27
Speaker 7: just to come out and say we're not going to
22:29
Speaker 7: prioritize this for the benefit of Australians and he hasn't
22:32
Speaker 7: done that so far.
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Speaker 2: And James, you're talking there specifically about questions put to
22:37
Speaker 2: him about the Palestinian terrorists being released from Israeli JLS.
22:43
Speaker 2: You're not just talking about guards and visa holders there,
22:46
Speaker 2: you're talking about convicted terrorists. That's also what he's not
22:50
Speaker 2: ruling out, isn't it that they might find their way
22:53
Speaker 2: to Australia.
22:56
Speaker 7: Well, And again like it was just another one of
22:58
Speaker 7: these examples, Peter, where the Prime Minister has had to
23:02
Speaker 7: pick his words and had to be very gun shy
23:05
Speaker 7: in regards to this conflict for the simple reason that
23:07
Speaker 7: he knows there are other parts of labor who are
23:10
Speaker 7: strongly pro Palestinian, including senior members of his ministry. So
23:14
Speaker 7: it's a really difficult one for the PM to navigate.
23:17
Speaker 7: But obviously he's been cautious of his words at a
23:19
Speaker 7: number of these opportunities, simply because he's concerned about the
23:23
Speaker 7: labor grassroots, the branches, the unions and.
23:26
Speaker 10: How they support these issues.
23:28
Speaker 7: So it's a minefield for Huim and that's why on
23:30
Speaker 7: a number of these occasions when we've had acts locally
23:33
Speaker 7: and international things, the PM's been caught short and it's
23:36
Speaker 7: allowed free kicks for Peter Dutton.
23:40
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jens. So you both next week all right,
23:42
Speaker 2: federal election looming, as we know I want to start
23:44
Speaker 2: to introduce you as we go along to some of
23:47
Speaker 2: the candidates in the marginal seats that will be crucial
23:51
Speaker 2: as to who forms government to not. I want to
23:54
Speaker 2: head to the southern Victorian seat of Karranger, might taking
23:57
Speaker 2: in some of the suburbs of Geelong, Queen's Cliff, the
24:00
Speaker 2: Bellerine Peninsula, parts of the Surf Coast too. It's a
24:04
Speaker 2: seat that's frequently changed hands between Labor and the Libs
24:07
Speaker 2: in recent years and right now with an uplift from
24:11
Speaker 2: an anti Morrison voted the last election, it's held by
24:14
Speaker 2: Labour's libby Coca Liberals, though they're in with a good chance.
24:17
Speaker 2: Their candidate is Darcy Dunstan, a trade, a dad and
24:22
Speaker 2: a former SAS soldier who received a commendation for distinguished
24:27
Speaker 2: service when deployed to Iraq. Please to say Darcy Dunstan
24:31
Speaker 2: joins me now, Darcy, welcome to the program. I particularly
24:35
Speaker 2: wanted to get you on the show tonight after a
24:37
Speaker 2: renewed sense of pride in Australia day and talk to
24:41
Speaker 2: you about a really moving piece you published in the
24:43
Speaker 2: Geelong Advertiser on the weekend, explaining it as someone who's
24:47
Speaker 2: had to fight under our flag. Just what Australia Day
24:52
Speaker 2: means to you, And in this piece you talked about
24:55
Speaker 2: how risking your life overseas for your country was a
24:59
Speaker 2: game change for you. Explain to my viewers what you
25:03
Speaker 2: meant there.
25:06
Speaker 4: Well, thanks for having me on, Peter. And obviously Australia
25:09
Speaker 4: means many things for many people, but for me personally,
25:14
Speaker 4: it's a day where we can reflect on our amazing achievements,
25:16
Speaker 4: looking back into the past, look forward into the future,
25:19
Speaker 4: and just remember how bloody lucky we are. But on
25:24
Speaker 4: a deeper level, I do believe that it's a day
25:28
Speaker 4: where we can celebrate national pride. And I was fortunate
25:31
Speaker 4: enough to serve eleven years in the military, and like
25:35
Speaker 4: many soldiers do, you do get deployed into hostile settings
25:38
Speaker 4: and you are exposed to some very dangerous training. And
25:43
Speaker 4: soldiers would talk to each other and we would you know,
25:48
Speaker 4: miss Christmas is overseas, and you would talk to each
25:51
Speaker 4: other and say, well, if people do pay the ultimate sacrifice,
25:54
Speaker 4: then at least it's not in vain. At least it's
25:58
Speaker 4: for the country. And I look at the young men
26:02
Speaker 4: and women joining our military today and I asked myself
26:07
Speaker 4: How can we ask these young people to join our
26:10
Speaker 4: military and wear the uniform proudly. If they can't even
26:13
Speaker 4: be proud of their nation, they can't celebrate Australia Day.
26:20
Speaker 2: I have had the privilege of meeting you a couple
26:23
Speaker 2: of times now, and I know you grew up pretty tough.
26:27
Speaker 2: I know you sort of like a lot of kids,
26:29
Speaker 2: went off the rails, but you took a decision to
26:34
Speaker 2: sort yourself out. I guess by joining the military. You
26:37
Speaker 2: said it changed your life, and it's made you put
26:41
Speaker 2: up your hand to run. It's made you say, you know,
26:43
Speaker 2: you value living within your means, and you value freedom
26:47
Speaker 2: of speech and all the other things that Liberal Party
26:48
Speaker 2: stands for. I reckon you're a bit like Australia's JD
26:53
Speaker 2: vanced in some ways. What made you want to run
26:56
Speaker 2: make I mean, it's a big ask. What made you
26:59
Speaker 2: want to run?
27:03
Speaker 4: Well, thanks for the compliment, Peter. I don't know if
27:06
Speaker 4: I'm at the level of JD events, but I was
27:10
Speaker 4: fed up with my mum not being able to pay
27:12
Speaker 4: her power bills and just watching, you know, the country
27:17
Speaker 4: essentially go backwards, and that was probably the biggest reason
27:20
Speaker 4: why I wanted to run. But to your point, growing
27:23
Speaker 4: up rough and tough and joined the military. I think
27:26
Speaker 4: the military for young people who don't have a lot
27:29
Speaker 4: of direction and purpose. I really do think it does
27:32
Speaker 4: give young people a set of values. If that is
27:35
Speaker 4: for you. I'm not saying all people should do it,
27:37
Speaker 4: but for me at that period of my life, it
27:39
Speaker 4: was definitely the right thing for me to do and it's.
27:43
Speaker 8: Taught me a lot.
27:44
Speaker 2: So yeah, Well, there's another sas soldier in the Coalition
27:50
Speaker 2: front bench, on the Clition front bench. That's of course
27:53
Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty. There's others who've worn the uniform as well.
27:56
Speaker 2: So I think if you get there, well, I think
27:59
Speaker 2: the parliament, not just Liberal party of the Parliament, will
28:01
Speaker 2: be well served by more veterans. Just on that point,
28:04
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen a lot of vandalism over this weekend.
28:06
Speaker 2: We saw a war memorial in Parkville and Melbourne to
28:09
Speaker 2: have faced a whole lot of pretty horrific vandalism in
28:12
Speaker 2: Sydney as well as a veteran. What do you make
28:16
Speaker 2: of that.
28:19
Speaker 4: Well, Peter, firstly, I think if it's probably one of
28:23
Speaker 4: the most disgraceful, despicable things you could do if you
28:28
Speaker 4: live in this country, and it really is a canary
28:31
Speaker 4: in the coal mine to tell people what's coming in
28:33
Speaker 4: the future. In my life, I've never seen a synagogue
28:37
Speaker 4: burned down. I've never seen a childcare center firebomb and
28:41
Speaker 4: I've definitely never seen this level of hatred towards monuments,
28:45
Speaker 4: war memorials. And I do think that it's Australians doing
28:52
Speaker 4: this to other Australians, and like, at the end of
28:55
Speaker 4: the day, we're all Australian. We need to have a
28:57
Speaker 4: bit more unity back into this country. And I kind
29:01
Speaker 4: of think of it like what we need to get
29:04
Speaker 4: the country back like is when you know when the
29:06
Speaker 4: materidas are doing well in the World Cup, or our
29:09
Speaker 4: swimmers are winning gold in the Olympics and the pools
29:13
Speaker 4: and everyone's just you know, behind the Aussies, and you know,
29:16
Speaker 4: you go to the pub where you can talk to
29:18
Speaker 4: your brista at the coffee shop and everyone's just on
29:20
Speaker 4: team Australia. Everyone wants Australia to win. And that's what
29:24
Speaker 4: I want to say, Australia get back to.
29:28
Speaker 2: You're terrific, Darsie, thank you for your time, thank you
29:31
Speaker 2: for your service of course, and good luck in the
29:33
Speaker 2: election ahead. I might want to say too, you know,
29:36
Speaker 2: in relation to Australia Day. If we protect Australia Day,
29:39
Speaker 2: they won't go after Ranzac Day because I tell you why,
29:42
Speaker 2: you change the day. They're not going to wake up
29:44
Speaker 2: these activists and say to you the country's fantastic, we're
29:46
Speaker 2: all united. That will we won down more to cup.
29:50
Speaker 2: So that's why it's also important. Right after the break
29:52
Speaker 2: the trend well and truly against the government. The first
29:55
Speaker 2: newsport of the year is a disaster for the PM.
29:59
Speaker 2: Last the very real inspective for Green's Labor government and
30:01
Speaker 2: what the PM is saying about his own stability. Pitch
30:10
Speaker 2: welcome back, still the cart the shocking ABC radio segment
30:13
Speaker 2: that thought it would be a joke fun to laugh
30:16
Speaker 2: about the Holocaust with the current Teal candidate involved. I'll
30:21
Speaker 2: play you that that commentary and I'll explain more in
30:24
Speaker 2: a moment. But verst Of, the Prime Minister was hoping
30:27
Speaker 2: for a refresh in the new year. He was sorely mistaken.
30:31
Speaker 2: Despite spending the summer out in the hustings, Labour's fortunes
30:35
Speaker 2: have continued to slide. The first news poll of twenty
30:38
Speaker 2: twenty five showing that for the first time voters expect
30:41
Speaker 2: the Coalition to win the next federal election, and the
30:45
Speaker 2: PM's personal approvals hit a new low. Joining me now
30:48
Speaker 2: to pick this all apart and also to the start
30:51
Speaker 2: of this unofficial campaign well and Julianet expert Polster, the
30:55
Speaker 2: head of red Bridge Cos, Samaris cos. Great to have
30:59
Speaker 2: you back. This is like your grand final year. You're
31:03
Speaker 2: on the field almost every week now before we get
31:06
Speaker 2: to the campaign proper, I mean clearly we're in a
31:09
Speaker 2: campaign now, right, Let's just cut the bs. We're in
31:11
Speaker 2: a campaign now. If you have a look at that
31:14
Speaker 2: vote in that News poll, Coalition's primary steady, Labour still declining,
31:19
Speaker 2: still falling fast. Dutton's now only three points off the
31:22
Speaker 2: Prime minister as preferred PM. What's your assessment of what
31:27
Speaker 2: you've read today.
31:28
Speaker 8: The real danger for the Labor Party is that Albanese
31:32
Speaker 8: is actually a lot more unpopular than Dunton. And the
31:36
Speaker 8: reason I point that out is because the Labor campaign's
31:39
Speaker 8: entire I would say negative strategy is to basically attack Dutton.
31:44
Speaker 8: They have this assumption that Dutton is incredibly unpopular within
31:48
Speaker 8: the Electric That may be true, but their bloke is
31:52
Speaker 8: more unpopular. It's not just Newspot has come up with
31:55
Speaker 8: these numbers, it's a number of other polsters, including ourselves
31:58
Speaker 8: that they're clearly now showing that Albanese's numbers are way
32:02
Speaker 8: low in terms of likability prefer prime minister, but in
32:06
Speaker 8: terms of what do Australians think of the two leaders.
32:09
Speaker 8: And so that's the real big problem I think the
32:12
Speaker 8: Labor Party is now facing. They've got a prime minister
32:16
Speaker 8: and a leader, a candidate for their campaign that he's
32:20
Speaker 8: more unpopular than the opposition leader.
32:24
Speaker 2: What I understand is it doesn't's been around for twenty years,
32:28
Speaker 2: so people's views about him are pretty mature. I think
32:32
Speaker 2: they're already baked into some of those numbers. I think
32:34
Speaker 2: probably did over the Prime minister. But they're seeing him
32:37
Speaker 2: through the lens now of a leader in difficult times
32:40
Speaker 2: who perhaps they see is weak and certainly on the
32:43
Speaker 2: home front level in terms of cost of livy is
32:45
Speaker 2: not delivering all the things he said he would deliver
32:48
Speaker 2: for them. So we saw that with Donald Trump didn't
32:51
Speaker 2: make a scrap of difference to go after him personally.
32:54
Speaker 2: In fact, it hastened his landslide win. Why on earth
32:58
Speaker 2: would they have the same strategy here that didn't work
33:00
Speaker 2: over there.
33:02
Speaker 8: If you look at the global landscape, most Australians are
33:07
Speaker 8: really nervous about that. If you look at the financial
33:11
Speaker 8: landscape in this country, as in the economy, the national economy,
33:13
Speaker 8: they're really nervous about that. They have not had any
33:16
Speaker 8: real clear air since the pandemic. You know, they can't
33:20
Speaker 8: even remember what the world was like before the pandemic,
33:23
Speaker 8: so all they've had is instability and a long comes
33:26
Speaker 8: obviously look inflationory crisis. And also whilst the same time
33:30
Speaker 8: we're seeing a number of conflicts trigger across the world Ukraine, obviously,
33:38
Speaker 8: the Middle East, lots and lots of turmoil everywhere, and
33:42
Speaker 8: Australians are looking for someone who's going to actually help
33:45
Speaker 8: them ride through this. The problem, again and again we'll
33:48
Speaker 8: go back to the party has is that, Yeah, they
33:51
Speaker 8: just our Albanize doesn't have those attributes.
33:58
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the issue you know that
34:01
Speaker 2: are moving voters, clearly, cost of living. I want to
34:05
Speaker 2: get your sense whether you think that's still that top issue.
34:09
Speaker 2: The other one that often gets talked about is cultural issues,
34:12
Speaker 2: like Dutton's position on having only one flag. I would
34:16
Speaker 2: normally say the cultural stuff isn't high up the batting order.
34:21
Speaker 2: But I think when the Prime Minister turn the voice
34:25
Speaker 2: into a cultural referendum, as much as anything else, I
34:29
Speaker 2: think is invited, at least in this term of parliament,
34:31
Speaker 2: a lot more of that cultural debate than we're normally
34:35
Speaker 2: see in Australia. Give me your thoughts on that.
34:39
Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, it's again really about a group of Australians
34:44
Speaker 8: who feel that particularly the left side of politics spends
34:47
Speaker 8: far too much time on those cultural issues. So what
34:51
Speaker 8: that's trying to do now is really try to extract
34:55
Speaker 8: that out as a theme that belongs to the Labor Party.
34:59
Speaker 8: And obviously you could see the Labor parties trying very hard,
35:02
Speaker 8: including alban Easy to not take the bait because they
35:05
Speaker 8: know that it's a really dangerous bit of territory for
35:08
Speaker 8: them to walk into. So I mean that's starting with strategy.
35:13
Speaker 8: It is the right strategy from his perspective, and at
35:17
Speaker 8: the moment every parties refused to take the bait. But
35:19
Speaker 8: again we are talking about the twenty twenty three and
35:24
Speaker 8: a full year of Labor braining itself with a cultural
35:27
Speaker 8: issue which you know it's going to be very hard
35:30
Speaker 8: for them to actually dislodge.
35:34
Speaker 2: Yesterday, the PM sat down with my colleague Andrew Klenew
35:37
Speaker 2: and he had a real pitch about stability. He said,
35:40
Speaker 2: you know, this is the benefit of making me a
35:43
Speaker 2: full term PM. I come back for another term. Have
35:46
Speaker 2: a listen.
35:48
Speaker 3: It is true that the last time a Prime minister
35:52
Speaker 3: won two elections in a row, served determined was elective
35:57
Speaker 3: was John Howard in two thousand and four, more than
36:00
Speaker 3: two decades. I don't think that that has served Australia well.
36:05
Speaker 3: And my government has been stable, has been orderly, has
36:09
Speaker 3: been united.
36:13
Speaker 2: If he wins, because the best I can hope for
36:17
Speaker 2: is minority government. So we're back to a hung parliament.
36:19
Speaker 2: Now I live the horror of the last hung parliament.
36:23
Speaker 2: It's anything but stable. And if he sends Labor into
36:26
Speaker 2: a hung parliament, I'm sure that his colleagues will be
36:31
Speaker 2: gunning to gunning for his job, won't they.
36:35
Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, let's focus on a hung parliament scenario. There
36:39
Speaker 8: are a group of Australians who actually quite like the idea,
36:42
Speaker 8: and there's obviously another group of Australians who think it's
36:44
Speaker 8: a terrible idea and it's going to create all sorts
36:47
Speaker 8: of instability in chaos. So it depends on who that
36:52
Speaker 8: message is actually targeted to, because if you're talking about
36:56
Speaker 8: the voters in the outer suburbs of Melbourne and Sitty
36:58
Speaker 8: in particular, they kind of like the idea of instability
37:01
Speaker 8: because they think the system is stacked against it. They
37:04
Speaker 8: want to see the major parties put under a lot
37:07
Speaker 8: of pressure and so that narrowly won't bite all that hard.
37:10
Speaker 8: That these voters they've seen what you know, Albanize's versions
37:15
Speaker 8: to be looks like their circumstances, their financial circumstances have
37:19
Speaker 8: gone backwards flip side. They also have the same view
37:22
Speaker 8: were Dutton as well. So it's it's just it's a
37:26
Speaker 8: matter of you know, who's the audience here, and if
37:29
Speaker 8: the audience is the people that the voters that Labor's
37:31
Speaker 8: got problems with, then that's not the right message.
37:36
Speaker 2: Well that's very interesting. That is very interesting. I suspect
37:39
Speaker 2: that plays out in TiAl seats as well. Very heavily. Coss.
37:42
Speaker 2: Thank you, great to have you back on deck. All
37:45
Speaker 2: right after break. You won't believe the radio segment where
37:47
Speaker 2: a current TiAl candidate took part in something that was
37:51
Speaker 2: making jokes about Hitler. So so how labor's lack of
37:54
Speaker 2: action and anti Semitism's vein as a pariah on the
37:57
Speaker 2: world stage, and the rank of poc or of the
38:00
Speaker 2: graceless Grace tame Welcome Back. Why the PM's criticism of
38:08
Speaker 2: Grace Tamee for wearing an offensive T shirt to an
38:10
Speaker 2: event at his lodge rings Hollow. The first concerns have
38:14
Speaker 2: been raised about teal candidate Alex Dyson's suitability to run
38:18
Speaker 2: for Parliament due to his involvement in a controversial radio
38:21
Speaker 2: segment which invited listeners to link everyday topics to Adolf Hitler.
38:27
Speaker 2: Mister Dyson's running for the Victorian seat of Warnen, which
38:30
Speaker 2: is currently held by Liberal MP Dan Tihan. The controversial
38:34
Speaker 2: segment aired in twenty twelve while Dyson was a host
38:38
Speaker 2: of ABC Triple J Radio. During the segment, Dyson's co
38:42
Speaker 2: host Tom Ballard attempted to link wind farms to fan
38:47
Speaker 2: forced Nazi ovens. Here's a bit of it.
38:52
Speaker 9: Yeah, for you to win wind farms fans, you know
38:55
Speaker 9: you have a fan in.
38:56
Speaker 2: An oven and then maybe.
38:58
Speaker 10: Force no no, no, no, no no no. I don't
39:00
Speaker 10: see where you're going with that.
39:02
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
39:02
Speaker 10: Davis out of the line and we would get you
39:04
Speaker 10: some apprises.
39:06
Speaker 6: I think I think Tom was glad that we didn't
39:09
Speaker 6: see where he was going to get.
39:12
Speaker 2: At the time. The ABC apologized, but mister Dyson did not. However,
39:17
Speaker 2: on Sunday, he told The Australian the segment brought into
39:20
Speaker 2: the show by a touring comedian was inappropriate and in
39:23
Speaker 2: bad taste. I regret that I and the on air
39:27
Speaker 2: producer failed to intervene sooner, which oftimately led to Tom
39:31
Speaker 2: Ballard's tasteless joke joining me in our shadow Education Minister
39:36
Speaker 2: Sarah Henderson. Well, in no way can you even call
39:41
Speaker 2: it a tasteless joke, Sarah Henderson. I mean it's offensive
39:48
Speaker 2: at every level. What do you make of the way
39:50
Speaker 2: he's now responded to the fact that this audio is
39:54
Speaker 2: public just as he running for parliament.
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Speaker 11: Well, Peter good evening, and this was an appalling anti
40:04
Speaker 11: Semitic segment which should never have been broadcast by the ABC.
40:09
Speaker 11: And this goes to the heart of the teals integrity
40:11
Speaker 11: and Alex Dyson's integrity, because he said a couple of
40:15
Speaker 11: weeks ago he told The Australian Jewish News that he
40:17
Speaker 11: did everything to shut this down and he was in
40:20
Speaker 11: fact commended by ABC management. And I've now got hold
40:24
Speaker 11: of this tape and I have discovered that he did
40:27
Speaker 11: not shut this down. In fact, on the tape, as
40:30
Speaker 11: you can hear, he had the last laugh. If he
40:33
Speaker 11: wanted to shut this down, he would never have allowed
40:36
Speaker 11: this awful, anti Semitic, appalling segment to go to wear
40:40
Speaker 11: And it really does say a lot about Alex Dyson's integrity,
40:45
Speaker 11: but also Zoey Daniel, because Zoey Daniel, the member for Goldstein,
40:48
Speaker 11: she has endorsed this candidate, she in fact launched his campaign.
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Speaker 11: She also told the Jewish News that while this was
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Speaker 11: a terrible joke, that Alex did everything, excuse me, everything
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Speaker 11: to shut this down and it's clean now that Zoe
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Speaker 11: Daniel's version of events, as proven by the tape is
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Speaker 11: quite wrong.
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Speaker 2: Well, I hope this is something that everyone who votes
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Speaker 2: in that scene of one and is well aware of,
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Speaker 2: particularly over the next few weeks and months as we
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Speaker 2: head into the campaign. Talk to me about the anti
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Speaker 2: racism supposed supposed anti racism supposing hosted by the Queensland
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Speaker 2: University of Technology last week, because it had a horrific
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Speaker 2: representation of what they call the Dutton Jew, which really
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Speaker 2: targeted Jewish Australians. You can see it there on the screen.
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Speaker 2: It all came from a left leaning Jewish Council of
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Speaker 2: Australia representative, Sarah Schwartz. She put the cartoon up there,
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Speaker 2: referring to it as Dutton's Jew and there was a
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Speaker 2: whole lot of other really troublesome language. Helped me out here, Sarah.
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Speaker 2: What's been the response at the university. I mean, this
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Speaker 2: should never have happened.
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Speaker 11: This should never have happened, Peter. But it was entirely
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Speaker 11: foreseeable and that is why prior to the symposium, several
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Speaker 11: leading Jewish organizations and myself we called for the university
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Speaker 11: not to proceed with this event because this was clearly
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Speaker 11: all about driving anti Jewish and anti Israel hatred and division.
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Speaker 11: This is not a genuine academic conference. This was all
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Speaker 11: about activism and based on some of the people who participated,
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Speaker 11: including Randa Abdelfhatta, who has a shocking history of making
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Speaker 11: many hateful comments, including almost celebrating the Hamas terrorist attack
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Speaker 11: by publishing an image of a harmist parachutist on her
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Speaker 11: social media. Frankly, the Minister should have done the same.
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Speaker 11: So why didn't the minister stand up and say to
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Speaker 11: the Vice Chancellor this not proceive This is clearly aimed
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Speaker 11: at Jewish Australians. This is clearly all about driving hate.
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Speaker 11: But again, as we've seen, Peter, this government for fifteen
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Speaker 11: months has shown weakness and incompetence when it comes to
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Speaker 11: fighting anti Semitism, including of course ani university campuses. Education
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Speaker 11: Minister Jason Clears could not even call for the encampments
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Speaker 11: to be removed.
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Speaker 2: It is just appalling. So was the line on that slide.
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Speaker 2: The inference that what Peter Dutton, the Peter Dutton jew
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Speaker 2: that people of Jewish faith were making this up and
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Speaker 2: they were making it up to support the Liberal Party,
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Speaker 2: is that the inference because bombing of synagogue and the
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Speaker 2: burning down a childcare centers shows that no one's making
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Speaker 2: this up? Is that what this was about.
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Speaker 11: Look, it was clearly aimed at many Jewish Australians. It
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Speaker 11: was clearly vilifying of Jews. I think it was quite
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Speaker 11: anti semitic, and in fact, so I said to the
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Speaker 11: Vice Chancellor when she wouldn't cancel this event, I said
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Speaker 11: to her, would you please have police there? So that
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Speaker 11: police can monitor hate speech. Now I don't think that
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Speaker 11: happened either. This was the only deeply offensive slide that
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Speaker 11: was put up over this symposium. There were many, many
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Speaker 11: statements made which indicated that this was all about driving
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Speaker 11: hatred and division and it is frankly an appalling.
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Speaker 2: Reflection on this university that this proceeded.
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Speaker 11: But again, Peter, it builds the case for a judicial
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Speaker 11: inquiry into anti Semitism on university campuses, which Labor has
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Speaker 11: refused to support.
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Speaker 2: No doubt that's needed. Sarah, thank you, thank you, good
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Speaker 2: luck and well done and getting all that manter early
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Speaker 2: in the public domain. Let's just also remember to International
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Speaker 2: Holocaust Remembrance Days at ABABC and SBS did not send
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Speaker 2: cruise to show us the service at Auschwitz now given
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Speaker 2: Melbourne in particular, but Australia has so many Holocaust survivors
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Speaker 2: in this country that's shocking. Or after the break Grace
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Speaker 2: Tame a whole lot more terrific panel see then Welcome
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Speaker 2: Back on Saturday for Australia. The year Grace Tame caused controversy,
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Speaker 2: but turning up to an event hosted by the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister at the Lodge wearing a T shirt which read
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Speaker 2: f Murdoch and see that they're on your screen. The
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister today, when asked about it, nothing for a
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Speaker 2: couple of days. When asked about it today said he
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Speaker 2: thought it was disrespectful. Let's bring in my panel, so
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Speaker 2: what they think. So your fellow at the MENSIS Research Center,
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Speaker 2: Nick Cata, Liberal MP out of South Australia, James Stevens. Well, gents,
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Speaker 2: I'll start with you, James. Those comments with the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 2: as I said, this happens Saturday. We only hear from
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Speaker 2: him today on Monday, but that's because there's been an
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Speaker 2: outcry from the public. The weak man that he is
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Speaker 2: didn't do or say anything at the time. And this
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Speaker 2: was an event a supposed to honor our latest round
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Speaker 2: of Australian Award recip recipients. I think it was really
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Speaker 2: disrespectful to them on their big.
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Speaker 9: Day, no question about it, Peter, just disgraceful. You really
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Speaker 9: do feel for the people that were invited to an
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Speaker 9: event where they were being acknowledged and thanked for their
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Speaker 9: service to our nation and someone decided to put on
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Speaker 9: a cheap stunt that is worthy of a Lydia Thorpe special.
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Speaker 9: And I really think the Prime Minister should not have
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Speaker 9: allowed her to attend the event in the first place,
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Speaker 9: in that attire, frankly, and what she's done is ruined
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Speaker 9: the event for those that were there to be acknowledged.
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Speaker 9: Of course, the taxpayers footed the bill for her attendance.
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Speaker 9: She knew exactly what she was doing. She was there
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Speaker 9: to cause this controversy and I think it's a real disgrace.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's laughing and smiling, you can see that in
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Speaker 2: that footage. Neck she's turning around so she's facing their camera.
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Speaker 2: Hypocritical for two things. First, it was the Murdoch media,
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Speaker 2: the Murdoch media that came out and supported her when
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Speaker 2: no one else did. As a wonderful journalist Nina Fanel,
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Speaker 2: they ran a campaign all about the gag order in
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Speaker 2: Tasmania that prevented her another speaking about their abuse. So
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Speaker 2: back first by Murdoch and second that T shirt gets
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Speaker 2: into the lodge. But over the weekend a man was
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Speaker 2: reported to have walked into a pub instance kild Her
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Speaker 2: in Melbourne and told to take off a mega hat
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Speaker 2: or he could leave. Where's the fairness in that? Yeah, Look, I.
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Speaker 1: Mean many of us supported Grace Tame at the beginning,
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Speaker 1: it seemed to be a terrific development that they had
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Speaker 1: somebody who'd been through the experience she'd been and was
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Speaker 1: prepared to speak out in them to help others. But look,
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Speaker 1: she's not doing it with this kind of look at
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Speaker 1: me stunt? Is she? I mean I noticed her. She
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Speaker 1: checked this, Peter. She turned thirty in December. She's not thirteen.
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Speaker 1: It's not the kind of behavior, you know, that respect
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Speaker 1: from somebody who runs a at the Grace Team Foundation,
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Speaker 1: which has tax deductible status which people donate their money to.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't seem to me to be responsible enough to
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Speaker 1: drive it. But you'd know this what was happening in
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Speaker 1: the PM staff. Wasn't there somebody at the door who
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Speaker 1: looks at this and says, look, you know, I don't
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Speaker 1: care what your T shirt says. You don't come in
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Speaker 1: with slogans on T shirts on occasion like this, go
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Speaker 1: home and get changed. I mean, shouldn't that happen?
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Speaker 2: Am I naive? Yeah? Mate? Honestly, she would have been
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Speaker 2: passes at this door there where there's security, there's Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister and Cabinet, then there's a PM's office. I would
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Speaker 2: have sent it to the bathroom and said, flip the
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Speaker 2: T shirt inside out or you go home. Lady lucky
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Speaker 2: that I wasn't at the door. Hey, you've had a
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Speaker 2: big reshuffle over the weekend, James Stevens. I know you
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Speaker 2: talk a lot about waste. You've really shone a light
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Speaker 2: on government waste, and now there's a whole portfolio government
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Speaker 2: efficiency led by our very good friend Just Enterprise. What
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Speaker 2: do you make of this move.
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Speaker 9: I think it's a really sensible decision by Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 9: He's making it very clear by adding this to Jacinta's
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Speaker 9: responsibilities that not only my role of pointing out, of
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Speaker 9: course the very numerous examples of wasteful behavior by the
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Speaker 9: Albanezy government, but now of course to Sinder with a
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Speaker 9: new responsibility to demonstrate exactly how we're going to make
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Speaker 9: our government efficient and ensure that taxpayers are getting full
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Speaker 9: value for what government does with their money and hopefully
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Speaker 9: save a bit of it, Peter, so we can put
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Speaker 9: it back into the pockets of everyday Australians. I think
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Speaker 9: Peter Dutton's sending a very clear message here that we
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Speaker 9: will be taking to this next election as part of
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Speaker 9: our agenda a real focus on cutting out at waste
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Speaker 9: from government, finding ways to be more efficient, following the
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Speaker 9: lead of other governments, particularly what's happening in the United States,
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Speaker 9: and starting to turn this conversation back against the bureaucracy
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Speaker 9: and say, hey, you guys have to justify the way
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Speaker 9: you spend our money.
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Speaker 2: Wrong. I gotta leave it there, Jens, I'm sorry amount
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Speaker 2: of time, have a lovely Strada public holiday. Thanks for
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Speaker 2: your compting me tonight. See tomorrow night at six. He's
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Speaker 2: Andrew