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Happy Hour #16: Anniversary Antics · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I don't from a
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Speaker 1: step I ever told you production of My Heart Radio.
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Speaker 1: So it is time for another happy hour. I don't
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Speaker 1: think this one's an unhappy hour. I think it might
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Speaker 1: be a nice healthy mix of happy hour and unhappy hour.
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Speaker 1: And also it's just kind of all over the place.
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Speaker 1: But that's where I am personally right now. I'll be
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Speaker 1: the judge at the end. Oh, perfect, perfect as always
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Speaker 1: with these, drink responsibly if you choose to do so.
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Speaker 1: We just want to give you a space to hang
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Speaker 1: out and relax with us, hopefully. So. I know we've
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Speaker 1: talked about dates before, and I'm really big into dates
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Speaker 1: on the calendar, and you're not so much correct. I
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Speaker 1: am the worst. How are you on anniversaries? Like? What
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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on them? My partner and I actually
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Speaker 1: talked about it because we've been together probably two or
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Speaker 1: three years, so we can't even actually decide our beginning date.
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Speaker 1: We don't have an anniversary, we don't have significant time frames.
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Speaker 1: It just doesn't exist. And that it doesn't bother me,
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Speaker 1: except for the fact that I'm like, should I yeah,
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Speaker 1: be bothered that I don't do this? Is this a thing?
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Speaker 1: That my a bad girlfriend and my non romantic Like,
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Speaker 1: is this a bad thing? That I'm not putting stock
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Speaker 1: into this because it's such a huge deal in so
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Speaker 1: many ways, like whether it's like a on a TV show,
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Speaker 1: is the catalyst of you know, an episode because oh no,
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Speaker 1: you forgot my anniversary type of thing, and it's so
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Speaker 1: looked down on. But it's not significant for me. I
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Speaker 1: barely remember birthdays, which is why I keep Facebook. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: the only reason I have Facebook is A for the
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Speaker 1: dog videos, B for the birthdates and see for events,
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Speaker 1: and that's the only reason I have it. I don't
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Speaker 1: really care about anything else, and so I'm the worst
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Speaker 1: with it. I do know my parents anniversary because it's
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Speaker 1: right before my birthday, and my mom's birthday because it
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Speaker 1: was right after my birthday, and then my sister's birthday
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Speaker 1: because it's right after Christmas. Got it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Well,
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Speaker 1: you've touched on a lot of things that I want
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Speaker 1: to get into in a second. And uh, I guess
2:27
Speaker 1: first we should talk about what we're sipping on, and
2:30
Speaker 1: we'll dive right in here. What are you drinking? So
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Speaker 1: I'm actually doing the no proof drink that we talked
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Speaker 1: about previously, which is the commegranate with ginger ile. So
2:40
Speaker 1: in it it says the use pomegranate syrup, but all
2:42
Speaker 1: I could find was the juice, but I just put
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Speaker 1: just a little and then I got the ginger ale
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Speaker 1: with a soda stream, so it cuts like I don't
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Speaker 1: use as much as if it was a straightforward soda.
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Speaker 1: So I do the mix. So yeah, I got my
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Speaker 1: little no proof. I forgot what they called it, but
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Speaker 1: it's just pomegranate and ginger that sounds lovely. It's really
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Speaker 1: refreshing about you. I just have a very simple jan
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Speaker 1: An tonic or carganjan and tonic because I like to
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Speaker 1: call it, and does have a millennium falcking cube. That's
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Speaker 1: an exciting thing about this one. But as probably as evident,
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Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of ingredients around, so there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be some similar things in rotation in these happy
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Speaker 1: Hour segments. Um. Also, I just realized, like you know,
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Speaker 1: we say we're not sponsored by these things, which we aren't,
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Speaker 1: but the way our ads work in the future we
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Speaker 1: could be. But just know that current, at this current moment,
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Speaker 1: right we are not. Those are not our sponsors. Nothing
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Speaker 1: that we're just changed. We'll be very excited about that. Yes,
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Speaker 1: but you won't hear in this episode, because that's not
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Speaker 1: how a podcast work unless you're listening to this three
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Speaker 1: years down the road and all of a sudden you're like, wait,
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Speaker 1: because the ads do change. They do they do indeed,
4:02
Speaker 1: so I guess behind the scenes, we're not actually recording
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Speaker 1: this on Thursday. It is a Tuesday. I have partner things,
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Speaker 1: so yeah, that's the other part is this week's my
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Speaker 1: partner's birthday, so Thursday we can't do it. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I have a special thing for my partner. So that's
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Speaker 1: why it is my fault. Yes, I'm absolutely blaming you,
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Speaker 1: but that's actually is one of the reasons this has
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Speaker 1: been on my mind because we talked about that recently,
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Speaker 1: that we have a lot of friends and co workers
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Speaker 1: who have birthdays coming up this week. I am someone
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Speaker 1: who is very big on dates, and so like, I
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Speaker 1: just to have these weird memories of even I could
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Speaker 1: tell you when I saw a movie in eleven. It's strange,
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Speaker 1: but so pop quiz, what's the date that we met?
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Speaker 1: We met It was September, near your birthday, because it
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Speaker 1: was I don't remember the exact day. I think it's
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Speaker 1: the fourteen. I have no way to check that, so
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Speaker 1: I don't know asking you, but I just wanted to
5:01
Speaker 1: say I'm probably way off because it was hot. It's
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Speaker 1: always hot this Atlanta. It's true. If I think about
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Speaker 1: it more, I bet you I can get it. But
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Speaker 1: today is our coworker, Holly's birthday. It's May, by the way,
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Speaker 1: which is also when a new Hope came out in
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Speaker 1: Star Wars. Because she thought it was made just for her.
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Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons she loves it so much.
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Speaker 1: Obviously she was a kid, but very exciting. This also
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Speaker 1: happens to be the day that the Winter Soldier plot
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Speaker 1: twist was revealed into comics. Was also a very sad
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Speaker 1: day when of your anniversary of George Floyd's to death,
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Speaker 1: which is something that people are marking around the world.
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Speaker 1: But it is also my parents anniversary and I for
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Speaker 1: some reason, even though my dad is dead and my
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Speaker 1: parents weren't even really together for many years leading up
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Speaker 1: into his death, I still think about it. And when
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Speaker 1: I was a kid, I would go all out on
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Speaker 1: their anniversary, like I would save up my allowance and
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Speaker 1: I would get these gifts that I had no business buying,
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Speaker 1: and I would make the meals. And now I look
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Speaker 1: back and I think that's so strange. But because I'm
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Speaker 1: like used me at that, I don't even though I
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Speaker 1: put a lot of stock into dates. When I in
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Speaker 1: the only really serious relationship I had, we didn't do
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Speaker 1: anniversary things either, and we chose a date because it
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Speaker 1: seemed like it was kind of important to him. He
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Speaker 1: liked kind of those romantic things, but we never did
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Speaker 1: anything big on it or anything like that. And I
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Speaker 1: I've just been thinking about about that, and I wonder,
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Speaker 1: at least in that case, it was almost like I
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Speaker 1: didn't want to reminder of an anniversary of this is
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Speaker 1: a time where it's a chance for the person to
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Speaker 1: remember why they shouldn't be with you, or like another
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Speaker 1: year is gone in my waist, time doesn't freaking countdown
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Speaker 1: of what have we been doing? Right? Has it been
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Speaker 1: worth it? Like you were supposed to assess everything? And
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Speaker 1: that it feels odd at the same time because I
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Speaker 1: also love giving gifts, so one of my favorite things
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Speaker 1: about I will go all out for someone's birthday, and
7:20
Speaker 1: to the detriment that I know. I think specifically like
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Speaker 1: my partner and people around me who it's been a
7:25
Speaker 1: rough year and people don't have money, people can't get
7:29
Speaker 1: the money. Economist is really bad right now. The only
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Speaker 1: people who are getting rich are the richer. We know this,
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Speaker 1: but for me, it's the first time I've actually been
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Speaker 1: able to afford to give things, so even to the
7:41
Speaker 1: point that my family is kind of shocked, because typically
7:43
Speaker 1: I'm the one that needed to borrow twenty bugs every
7:45
Speaker 1: month for gas. If you want to see me, you
7:48
Speaker 1: better send me gas money. Kind of kind of that
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Speaker 1: level and out of my forty years, the last five years,
7:54
Speaker 1: and that has something to do with the fact that
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Speaker 1: I worked three jobs at one point, like I finally
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Speaker 1: got to the point that I could do the things
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Speaker 1: that I want to and giving gifts is one of
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Speaker 1: my favorite things. But I'm trying to also keep in
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Speaker 1: mind people feel guilty. I don't like that. I feel
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Speaker 1: also indebted and feels uneven, and I'm trying to balance that.
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Speaker 1: And of course it sounds so privileged. I know this,
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Speaker 1: and I get this because I've been on the other
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Speaker 1: side as the person who wants to go all out
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Speaker 1: and I can't. And if you do that for me,
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Speaker 1: the level of guilt. All I can think of was like,
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Speaker 1: don't do this. So I feel like there's this whole imbalance.
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Speaker 1: Of course, some people will actually go all out and
8:32
Speaker 1: make it a competition, so as a divorced parent, we
8:36
Speaker 1: know that could be a problematic thing, but just it
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Speaker 1: feels like this added pressure of doing that, and yeah,
8:44
Speaker 1: it kind of comes back down to it's like is
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Speaker 1: it really a good thing or is it all about
8:49
Speaker 1: capitalism once again? Yes, Oh, and we're going to talk
8:54
Speaker 1: about that in a second, because yeah, yeah, I when
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Speaker 1: I think back, I know lot of people have been
9:01
Speaker 1: looking back on past relationships during this quarantine time, and
9:05
Speaker 1: then I'm trying to when I look at why I
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Speaker 1: was so desperate to celebrate my parents anniversary that I
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Speaker 1: like every year still think of it as opposed to
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Speaker 1: my own relationship, where I was like, let's not, let's
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Speaker 1: not celebrate it. I do think some of it was
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Speaker 1: I was really desperate to keep my parents together because
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Speaker 1: I thought I was just that kid that was like
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Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna leave and they're going to break up,
9:28
Speaker 1: whereas I I was very uncertain in my own relationship,
9:32
Speaker 1: and going back to like what you said, Samantha about
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Speaker 1: the sitcoms, it's kind of a plot where the woman
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Speaker 1: gets Usually it's a woman gets really mad that the
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Speaker 1: dude forgot the anniversary, didn't get a gift, whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: And even though in theory it sounds like she is
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Speaker 1: in the right and he screwed up, it's almost always
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Speaker 1: painted that she's being needy and ridiculous and why can't
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Speaker 1: it just calm down right? And so I was almost
10:02
Speaker 1: trying to be like, it's okay, we don't have to
10:04
Speaker 1: do that thing right. I'm cool, I'm not like the
10:07
Speaker 1: sitcom women. We don't have to do it right. Which
10:11
Speaker 1: we always know that the sitcom women are the butt
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Speaker 1: of the jokes, the one that doesn't have any sense
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Speaker 1: of humor, or the one who was overbearing and over
10:19
Speaker 1: the top and so emotional whatever whatnot. We know that
10:22
Speaker 1: we saw this and miss stout buyer too, even though
10:25
Speaker 1: we're absolutely kind of like, no, if the father was
10:27
Speaker 1: like that in real life, yeah he would be problematic,
10:31
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's definitely a thing too, of like, Okay,
10:35
Speaker 1: so we made this idea of what romance is, and
10:40
Speaker 1: if you're not perfect in it, then you're the disappointment
10:43
Speaker 1: is almost the relationship and thing to an extent. Yeah,
10:49
Speaker 1: it certainly can be like people. Some people put a
10:53
Speaker 1: lot of stock into those things. And I wonder if
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Speaker 1: my mom, like I learned from my mom, and maybe
11:02
Speaker 1: she didn't. I feel like she wanted to make a
11:04
Speaker 1: big deal about the anniversary either. So I felt like
11:07
Speaker 1: I had to do it for her because I thought
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Speaker 1: that that's what romance was, that there should be this
11:13
Speaker 1: big romantic thing and my dad wasn't doing it. So
11:17
Speaker 1: I was right, which feels very strange now that I'm
11:22
Speaker 1: adult looking back on it. Man, I could go under
11:25
Speaker 1: perentification wish, Yes, just episode And like I recently went
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Speaker 1: home for Mother's Day and I found this old post
11:36
Speaker 1: it note and it had all of these meals I
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Speaker 1: planned for them based on each of their favorite foods
11:41
Speaker 1: that I would make on that day, just like I
11:43
Speaker 1: would really go all out. And when my parents did
11:49
Speaker 1: go through their sort of split, I started getting my
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Speaker 1: mom gifts on that day. But well, that says a lot. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I was kind of spiteful. I was spiteful. But I
12:03
Speaker 1: do feel like it is a double double edged sword
12:06
Speaker 1: for women, and that's something we've discussed a lot, and
12:09
Speaker 1: I think a lot of you listeners probably do feel
12:12
Speaker 1: around kind of this holiday emotional labor that there is
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Speaker 1: this pressure to mark events and make people happy. But
12:19
Speaker 1: at the same time, when it comes to something like
12:21
Speaker 1: an anniversary, you don't want to appear needy or emotional,
12:27
Speaker 1: and we just see a lot of gas lighting and
12:29
Speaker 1: things like sitcoms around that. And I do feel like
12:33
Speaker 1: there's this whole aspect for me of like you have
12:37
Speaker 1: to earn your love and you have to provide these
12:38
Speaker 1: gifts and do these physical tangible things that you could
12:41
Speaker 1: like put on a piece of paper and sec I'm
12:44
Speaker 1: a decent person, right, you want to keep me around? Um,
12:47
Speaker 1: I am worth having around. It's just like a lot
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Speaker 1: of complicated, almost impossible things to reconcile around it. But
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Speaker 1: also on the other hey it again, if this is
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Speaker 1: something that means something to you, If this is something
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Speaker 1: that is important to you, that's okay too. And that's
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Speaker 1: kind of that balance of like if you do have
13:07
Speaker 1: a partner to understand each other where they're at. And
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Speaker 1: I think that's part of the bigger picture is are
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Speaker 1: we listening, do we understand what is important to other people?
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Speaker 1: Is it something that's getting to the point that it
13:22
Speaker 1: is causing a lot of strife, then you you need
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Speaker 1: to have a conversation about why that is, whether it's
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Speaker 1: with yourself alone, about why am I doing this, why
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Speaker 1: am I adding this pressure, or as to if you
13:35
Speaker 1: can't communicate why that is. You know, for my family
13:39
Speaker 1: and my dad, he's really sentimental, but he's not one
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Speaker 1: of those that does all the gifts and like, he's
13:46
Speaker 1: my dad. Since I was in college, he decided that
13:50
Speaker 1: he needed to send me Valentine's Day candy. I don't
13:54
Speaker 1: know where it came from. He's never done that. He
13:56
Speaker 1: never really did that for my mother. All of a sudden,
13:58
Speaker 1: it just started happening. So I was like, okay, cool,
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Speaker 1: that's very sweet. I don't necessarily celebrate Valentine's Day. You're
14:04
Speaker 1: around for our Valentine's Day and you've got some sucks.
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Speaker 1: I love them too, But that's that's kind of that
14:12
Speaker 1: level of how I see it. But you know, I
14:15
Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool, But a date that's really important
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Speaker 1: to him that he wants me to celebrate but I
14:20
Speaker 1: don't always celebrate is my adoption day. So I was
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Speaker 1: adopted in July, and honestly, I forgot that date and
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Speaker 1: I forget every year until my dad saves me a text,
14:30
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like, what's happening, What's happening. And
14:32
Speaker 1: I appreciate that he does that in that it doesn't
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Speaker 1: ignore what a significant day, life changing day jolting data
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Speaker 1: is for me, but he sees that as a way
14:44
Speaker 1: of celebrating for him. So it's kind of a weird
14:47
Speaker 1: date to me, but also to me that day is
14:50
Speaker 1: more important than my birthday to certain extents, So there's
14:55
Speaker 1: definitely that whole and and me trying to understand why
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Speaker 1: it's important to him has been a battle for me.
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Speaker 1: Even the understanding that, yeah, it is important, and I'm
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Speaker 1: okay and understand seeing that and compromising with that and
15:08
Speaker 1: celebrating that with him, but I have a lot of
15:11
Speaker 1: mixed emotions around it. Yeah, And I'm really glad you
15:15
Speaker 1: brought up the point about communication because I think even
15:19
Speaker 1: though we say it all the time and I think
15:22
Speaker 1: most of us know it, we all still struggle with it.
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Speaker 1: And when I look back on how I felt around
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Speaker 1: celebrating anniverrtues with my last partner and how he felt,
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Speaker 1: it was so much of me being insecure and trying
15:37
Speaker 1: to please him and just not communicating any of my
15:43
Speaker 1: concerns or worries or that, and me just trying to
15:47
Speaker 1: be cool and be the easy going girlfriend. Right. It's
15:50
Speaker 1: such a passing conversation. I was like, so, is this
15:53
Speaker 1: something that's important to you, Like, I've had several of
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Speaker 1: those with different people, Like, if this is you need
15:58
Speaker 1: to tell me now, Like not is going to go
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Speaker 1: out over my head? That's done. So do we need
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Speaker 1: to talk about having it in the first rate? Do
16:05
Speaker 1: we do? We need to talk about having a date?
16:07
Speaker 1: And I did say, I mean I was curious, like, so,
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Speaker 1: when do you consider the beginning of our relationship. It
16:14
Speaker 1: was significantly shorter than my date. It's not a big deal.
16:21
Speaker 1: And I understood why I was significantly shorter date. I mean,
16:27
Speaker 1: that's another good point though. Its like, again, I couldn't
16:30
Speaker 1: have said in our last relationship either, because we did
16:32
Speaker 1: start out as friends and I think he would consider
16:34
Speaker 1: dating weight earlier than I did. But then he chose
16:37
Speaker 1: a date because he was like this is when we
16:40
Speaker 1: sat down and talked about it, and I was like, Okay,
16:42
Speaker 1: that's the date. I'm happy for it. That's another thing
16:46
Speaker 1: that I've been dealing with two that we've been talking
16:48
Speaker 1: about is I feel like I get so in my
16:51
Speaker 1: head about what other people want, and I have so
16:53
Speaker 1: many trust issues that I couldn't even even told him
16:56
Speaker 1: what I wanted for sure, I would just have so
16:59
Speaker 1: much out. And something else that I'm doing dealing with
17:03
Speaker 1: is something called catastrophizing, which is when you think the
17:06
Speaker 1: absolute worst thing is going to happen, right, and so
17:09
Speaker 1: recently Samantha has I lost my phone, which is sucks,
17:13
Speaker 1: but it's fine. But my big concern was that I
17:16
Speaker 1: was going to lose all my friends who were there
17:18
Speaker 1: that night because they would think I was so ridiculous
17:21
Speaker 1: and can't keep my life together that they'd be like,
17:23
Speaker 1: I don't want to hang out with her anymore. That
17:24
Speaker 1: was like the first thing my big concern. So that's
17:28
Speaker 1: something that I'm trying to deal with. But I think
17:30
Speaker 1: that also comes up when you're talking about these really
17:33
Speaker 1: complicated or they can be really complicated of emotions around
17:40
Speaker 1: an event, right and around just yourself and your own
17:43
Speaker 1: insecurities and self esteem that's often there. I would go
17:47
Speaker 1: immediately to the worst, like if I don't if I
17:50
Speaker 1: make a big deal out of this, that's the end.
17:52
Speaker 1: Of the relationship, right. I mean, I'm definitely the one
17:56
Speaker 1: who's like, I can't get into my email, I've been fired.
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Speaker 1: But that's where my mind goes. Immediately, I was name,
18:02
Speaker 1: I'm same. I did want to go back to the
18:05
Speaker 1: thing about capitalism because I was really curious about the
18:08
Speaker 1: whole you know, year one is the anniversary gift, is
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Speaker 1: this and to this, So I didn't go on a
18:14
Speaker 1: deep dive, but very briefly. Apparently this kind of tradition
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Speaker 1: of year based anniversary gifts goes back to the Middle Ages.
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Speaker 1: It was very common in Germany by the eighteenth century.
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Speaker 1: In eighteen fifty nine edition of the Old Farmer's Almanac
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Speaker 1: red one month from marriage makes a sugar wedding, one
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Speaker 1: year makes a paper wedding. Then would at five, ten
18:33
Speaker 1: for ten like t I n silver for twenty five,
18:37
Speaker 1: golden at fifty, and diamond at seventy five. But you
18:41
Speaker 1: were correct. Capitalism was a big part of this. All
18:45
Speaker 1: American jewelry companies helped invent yearly presence in the twentieth century.
18:50
Speaker 1: And I want to go over some of my favorites
18:51
Speaker 1: from the Chicago Public Library list conveyances for the thirty
18:56
Speaker 1: second improved real estate for the forty, second strees for
19:01
Speaker 1: original poetry for the fort and optical goods for the
19:06
Speaker 1: forty like telescopes are microscopes? Oh man? Jewelry companies got
19:10
Speaker 1: screwed over. You know they're mad because they don't get
19:13
Speaker 1: into like the what fifties? Maybe silver comes around in
19:17
Speaker 1: twenty five, but as of today, not all of those
19:20
Speaker 1: anniversaries happen anymore. But paper come on, I guess that
19:26
Speaker 1: makes sense. You start out small. I think the last
19:28
Speaker 1: one was like platinum or something. But if you've never
19:31
Speaker 1: reached that, it's true. Three jewelry companies. I do want
19:36
Speaker 1: to say, like I'm I'm laughing at this, but I'm
19:38
Speaker 1: also somebody who would really enjoy, like if I was
19:41
Speaker 1: in a goofy relationship with a partner who would also
19:43
Speaker 1: enjoy it, like going through this and getting like a microscope.
19:49
Speaker 1: I no mockery at all. Again, it's about like what
19:53
Speaker 1: what works for you, how you want to mark the
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Speaker 1: occasion and what makes you happy. It's just, uh, I
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Speaker 1: don't know why. Every year on the state I think
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Speaker 1: about I think about anniversaries and my parents anniversary, and
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Speaker 1: I just want to talk about some of that with
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Speaker 1: all of you. So I just got my partner plants.
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Speaker 1: What year is that? Plants? Is a year? I know
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Speaker 1: it has to be. I feel like it's pretty early,
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Speaker 1: might be, I would hope. So I think it's like eleven. Okay,
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