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[Ep 7] From Trauma to Transformation | Lisa Piper & Wendy Cohn-Osbourne · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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We are back on the Performance Driven Living podcast, and I have the, we're actually at
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the Dave Asprey Biohacking Conference this week, actually.
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So that's kind of fun, because I get to have some really cool people on, and our first
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recording that we're doing here is with my friends, Dr. Lisa Piper and Wendy Cone Osborne.
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Now, notice you started throwing the Osborne in there more lately, it was just Wendy Cone.
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Zid, it was just Wendy Cone, I know, and then I started working so hard, and I'm never
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with my husband who's the Osborne, so I decided that I'm going to, you know, bring him
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with me everywhere I go.
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I like it.
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Yeah, I was like, no, she's putting Osborne on, and I'm like, and I know you're married,
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and I was like, but like, did you just get married to people?
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Like, what just happened?
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So Cone is my maiden name, that I became Cone Osborne as a mouthful, but it's a mouthful,
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just like bioenergetically therapeutic, right?
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Actually, it was, it was a little while ago, I interviewed Philip on Holmes and Door Failing.
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I can't even say his name.
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I know, and he's there, and I'm like, Philip, I'm going to destroy your name, so I'm going
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to disclaim ahead of time, and then I said it, and he's like, no, actually, you got to
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write.
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That's impressive.
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I'm like, now it just flows.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to practice that one a little bit.
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On Holmes and Door Failing, that you guys are definitely going to need to do that, because
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I know you're going to be working with him in the near future.
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Yeah.
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You will have already been working with him by the time this air, so that's fantastic.
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So preemptive, congratulations.
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Thank you.
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I'm excited for you guys, because again, you know the goal of performance driven living
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is for me to find people who are going to join me and teach me something.
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And I know a lot of stuff, like in a weird way, like I just know a little about a lot.
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So when I find people that know more than I do, like I want to be this sponge and upgrade
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myself, which I love that upgrade, right?
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Like Dave Asprey nailed it on that branding.
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And Wendy and Lisa are the owners of a company called Code Health, and most people know them
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as the code girls.
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And the code girls here, they sell water.
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And I know that just sounds weird, because they sell water like one drop at a time.
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And I'm like, that's like the most, like the most special real estate deal you can imagine,
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right?
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Like there's this company in Scotland that I'll sell you one square foot of land so that
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you can claim that you have land in Scotland, and which officially like makes you a duke
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or something.
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I forget a little order.
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I know a word.
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I know a word.
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But you guys sell water by the drop.
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And I'm like, this is kind of like selling land in Scotland by the foot.
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But yours is very special water.
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And I want to unpack this because it's, I get it because I know I know you guys and have
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learned a lot from you in the way that your product specifically works, but about how
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everything works, but it's weird, right?
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It's a little woo-woo in a lot of people's space.
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And it's not, but I think woo-woo is the phrase we use to talk about the things we don't
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understand.
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Yeah, true.
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And I want to take the woo out of what you do, because I think it's just a matter of
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understanding it.
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And so code health, you're selling water by the drops.
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You got your perfect product, promo pitch, like one year.
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Here we go.
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Like, what is code health?
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Well, the code brand is a line of bioenergetics therapeutics.
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And like Wendy said, that is a big word.
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We're using energy to affect your biology.
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That's all.
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And it's really so simple because we are imprinting saline solution, medical grade saline solution,
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with subtle energy patterns that up or down regulate the body to restore balance.
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So when your body is out of balance, you experience that as a symptom.
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So we use exactly what you're made out of, salt water and energy to restore that balance
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in the body.
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So in a recent conversation, I'm going to draw some correlations here.
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For those of you that are familiar with Lila Quantum, that's Philip von Holtzendorf
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Failing's accompanying.
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And Lila, when Philip and I were talking on this podcast, we had a lot of conversation
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around bio field.
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And this idea that we attract what we emit, because energy seeks like energy, right?
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And it's kind of like magnets, right, like magnetic forces that actually do that.
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And what's interesting is we were talking beforehand about even my book, Radical Generosity,
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right?
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For me, it's almost become, well, I put it out there to the universe and say, Oh, look,
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I'm radically generous.
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Right?
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And all of a sudden, I'm like, Oh, man, I'm under a magnifying glass now because everybody's
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like, no, you're not your jerk.
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Some to say it.
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But this whole idea of energy and how our bodies are energy, this quantum space, it's
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still very new for people to understand, because we've been taught that we live in a
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very tactile world.
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Like if I can see it, hear it, feel it, touch it, you know, taste it, then it must be
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real.
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But there's something that lives outside of what we can actually engage with our senses,
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I would say.
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What is that?
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Like that, that, you know, may the force be with you, kind of stuff, right?
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Like what is that?
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And how does that relate to when you say we imprint the energy?
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Like to you, those are very normal words.
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Those are not normal words to me, like imprinting energy on saline.
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Well let me say this first about energy, okay?
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Anyone who has ever had a slipped disc in their neck and felt the electrical sensation
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of a pinched nerve knows that we are an elect, we are electrical beings.
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The brain fires and wires on a neural circuitry sending signals and messages to your whole
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body.
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It's not happening, but it's happening.
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You have to know what's happening is if you're thinking, then it's happening, right?
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You're breathing.
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You breathe.
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The life force is your oxygen that you breathe and you're oxygenating yourself.
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Your blood is pumping, your heart is beating, you're not doing anything.
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All of these processes are happening energetically because you're an energetic being.
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Well, and there's so much talk right now about the mitochondria, right?
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Indicatively in the biohack longevity space and with this Bobby Kennedy tailwind where
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there's lights being shown on so many areas of health and wellness that people haven't
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even heard about, that the average person I would say, like I think we're kind of a
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little bit more tuned in than most.
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But we hear a lot about mitochondrial energy and we hear about this electricity that drives
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our body.
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And I think particularly, and I'll say it, I don't care, like during COVID there was
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this whole talk of cytokine storms that were happening in people's bodies where energy
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was getting through broken cell layers and killing surrounding cells.
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And you see like this, it's almost like little bombs going off in the body and everything
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around it becomes like disaster zone.
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And again, I'm unpacking that in an incredibly elementary way.
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But the reality is, is like that's energy.
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Yeah, that is energy and that energy can be used just like an outlet like you, we've
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got different types of electricity that run into our homes.
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You know, one runs a lamp, but the other one runs the dryer, right?
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Those are different uses of the same electricity by keeping them regulated in some way.
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You're taking the energy that already exists in our body and really just reshaping it harmonically.
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Is that is that fair to say?
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I got one skeptic looking one now.
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No, I want to get her a chance to answer, but really, our formulas, we have 10 formulas.
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And they're based on the work of a brilliant biologist who specializes in immunology
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and virology in his name is Dr. John McMichael.
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And what he's done is he's created these molecular formulas.
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And that's what they're all cellular signaling products designed to up or down regulate to
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restore balance.
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What we've done is a little bit different.
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We have taken his molecular formulas.
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We have mapped the energetic blueprint of the formula.
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This is where it gets a little scientific and a little bit more complicated.
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Okay, we map that energetic blueprint.
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It's then digitized using advanced technology into the code.
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The code is the information that was captured in that energetic blueprint.
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And we structure saline solution using that.
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You can say structure.
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You can say imprint.
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You can say infuse.
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You can use whatever words you want to use that you understand.
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But the fact is that the saline solution holds memory.
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And we have studies by people that have been around for a long time.
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Look at Dr. E. Modo, for example.
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I was just about to bring him up.
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Okay, he's a brilliant example of water at the crystallizing point of where it's freezing.
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And if you're putting good vibrations into it, it makes this beautiful crystal structure.
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If you're swearing at it and playing heavy metal music into it and hating the water,
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then it looks kind of disorganized and sludgy.
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And that's the frequency, that's the vibration.
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So the only difference is we're using frequency to imprint the saline solution with the
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information based on the molecular formulas.
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So you mentioned Dr. E. Modo.
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And for those who don't know who Dr. E. Modo is, I'll fill that in and say there were
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studies that were done where if you're kind to water, and it freezes while you're being
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kind to it, the crystallization patterns are beautiful.
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Just their synchronous, they're just beautiful.
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They look like snowflakes.
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Is that a beautiful?
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And if you're angry towards water and you say ugly things towards a bowl of water and
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put it in the freezer, the patterns are distorted and it looks like, you know, some kind of heavy
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metal kind of sludgy, sharp thing.
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It's just a very sharp thing.
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It's just very sharp.
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It really just.
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Distortically, it's not beautiful.
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And it's interesting that like literally talking at water does this.
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And I was saying to somebody recently, I was in Puerto Rico back in January and we did
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like this jungle hike.
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And there was a plant and I'd never seen anything like this.
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And I want to say they call it the touch me not, but I can't be quoted at that because
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I haven't been able to look it back up.
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But it's a it's a fern almost and it's like really beautiful when it's there.
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And if you say something ugly to it, it actually retracts and it was like, watch it, no one
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touched it.
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Like you just said, and you're like, oh, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean that.
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And it flowers back out.
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And I'm like, this is like freaky sci-fi Harry Potter stuff, right?
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Like there's no way that this plant just heard what I said.
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And I mean, here's the weirdest part to me.
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It's like I was in Puerto Rico.
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This plant shouldn't even speak English, right?
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Like I said, ugly things in English.
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And the plant like, wait, this plant should only speak Spanish, right?
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Like even the plants are bilingual in Puerto Rico.
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But it was funny because I actually did start talking to it ugly in Spanish also just
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to see what it would do.
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You better.
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Yeah.
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It did the exact same thing.
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Exactly.
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We had a better conversation.
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But it actually did the same thing.
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And I'm like proving the point that it's like clearly not a language thing, but it's a
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resonance.
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It's a resonance.
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It's a finergy.
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It's a vibration.
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It's a frequency.
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Yeah.
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That our energy changes.
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A change of information.
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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And that's exactly what this is.
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And to the radical generosity point that I was making, it's like what you put out is
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what you receive.
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Exactly.
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And the more that you give generously in life, the more generosity comes back to you.
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The more you give goodness, the more goodness comes back to you.
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And I think that's always been like, I always go back to ancient wisdom and say it sounds
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very biblical, right?
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Like, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
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And I'm like, well, that's really good advice from grandma.
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The reality is, since we are scientifically unpacking energy and frequency and vibrational
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levels, it's actually a scientific phrase.
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It is.
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Like, do unto others like what you're admitting to the world is literally what you are bringing
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back.
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I mean, I'm like, wow, that golden rule is literally a scientific quote.
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Well, this is the time we're bridging science and spirituality.
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It's all the same.
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Yeah, it is.
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It's a matter of having the right technology to be able to measure and validate these things
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scientifically.
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Yeah.
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Science has to catch up to the spiritual community.
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So cautious about my words nowadays.
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And I was always a person who, like, I love words.
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And I would probably be reckless with them more often than not to be full confession.
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But it's like, I will find myself lately, like, in this whole idea of psychonural immunology.
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Like, I won't say things because there's power in those things.
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Like, I found myself like, it's a very trendy thing for people who are like, oh my gosh,
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I'm dead.
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Like, like, I'm dead, like, I'm dying.
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And it's intended to be like, that's so funny, I'm literally losing control.
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But I'm like, I've gotten to the point that, like, I won't even use that phrase anymore
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because I'm not speaking that over my body.
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Now, I want to back into code health a little bit.
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Wendy, you've said so politely and at least, and I talk so much at the time here.
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But I want to know, how in the world did this even start?
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Well, that's a good story.
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Lisa was actually very, very sick with COVID.
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And just like she, I and our families, we were watching her get more and more sick every day.
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Well, her father was the next door neighbor to this brilliant immunologist,
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virologist, Dr. John McMichael, and he had this antiviral formula that had 40 years of research
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that he was actually utilizing his molecular formula on COVID patients as well.
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He knew that COVID was a virus and the same way that his molecular formulas worked with
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all other type of virus.
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It actually stops the replication of the viral load that is the most incredible part of this formula.
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Well, they overnighted the formula to Lisa.
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Lisa followed the explicit directions.
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And the next day, her 104 fever dissipated.
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And two days later, she got her taste and smell started coming back.
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So here, everyone else in the world was talking about vaccinations and medication and water.
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And literally, now Dr. McMichael, the one thing was that what Lisa spoke about was that all of his formulas
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work on a cellular level already.
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So his molecular formula works with resident molecular signaling.
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And that goes back to exactly what you were saying as far as residents.
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It's the cells are signaling each other.
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So Lisa got better.
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And one year later, she went back up to visit Dr. McMichael and her father wanted to go thank him
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for essentially saving her life.
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And there's a famous line.
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Go ahead, you say it because you say it better than me.
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Why doesn't everybody have this?
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And how can I help you bring it to the world?
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Yeah, I love that.
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And I didn't know how I was going to do it.
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Well, no, and there's that that comes back to in your pain as your purpose.
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Yeah, that's right.
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That's right.
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He connected me to his business partners.
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I had the first call with them.
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And I spent the whole time talking about her.
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I didn't even know if she was going to agree to do this with me.
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I was like, praying, oh my god, please, let her agree.
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I threw her in the fire.
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She had no idea.
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I was even talking about her.
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I just got on the phone and I was like, all right, well, this has to happen.
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So we need to get back to that energy attracting.
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And it's right, like last night, we were at the inaugural dinner
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for the lifelong well-being foundation.
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And you heard Rebecca Sanchez talking about she's in Helsinki, Finland,
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and I need to get away from the world retreat and runs into Nick Zaldestani.
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And he walks by and she's like something just whatever.
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And two days later, they end up never meeting before in their lives.
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And two days later, they end up forming a foundation
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to bring wellness and longevity education on the college campuses.
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It's incredible.
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An energy really does resonate, right?
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And it's almost like love at first sight kind of moment, right?
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Like I actually, as much as we say, like, no, it's not love.
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If you've got to get deep, you've got to get to know people.
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It's like, sure, but there is an attraction that happens.
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I mean, not in a weird way.
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I'm not suggesting something like that.
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I'm just saying the friends we keep, the spouses we choose,
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like there are fast connections you make with people.
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I mean, you know what or you don't.
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Absolutely.
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And it goes back to everything is vibration,
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right?
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Walk into a room and the room can be completely still,
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completely still and the energy is low.
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Or did you ever see someone or talk to someone and their energy is just so low
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that it affects your own energy, right?
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Oh, I'm terrible with that.
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All the time.
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And then yet, you can go and be in a room and walk into a room
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and the energy is high or a person, their energy is high.
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And so it's the residence between all of us
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and it's the energy within each other.
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And we resonate with, you know, we vibrate.
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Everything's about vibration.
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Code is about bringing back balance into your system.
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So I want to ask you a question on that.
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Because I know we're talking a lot about imprinting and frequencies
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and people may or may not be familiar with those terms, right?
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Like they know them, but at the quantum level that you're talking about,
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the mental thing, most people, that's a digestible word.
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But if I were to, you've got a formula and I use your product.
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So I mean, I, I'll, it's testimonial.
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I use the products.
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I've been sick.
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In fact, when you and I had lunch last, I was sick and like,
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take some of this with you and I'm like, yes,
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I don't have it with me.
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I'm traveling and, you know, and I did.
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I religiously took what I needed to take in a couple days later.
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I was back to normal and I took zero OTC.
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I took zero.
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I avoid pharmaceuticals as much as possible.
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Not to diss the pharmaceutical industry,
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but I just don't believe in putting synthetic things into my body
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if I can do away with it, if I can avoid it.
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Now, I'm going to say ibuprofen.
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I'll just throw out a random one ever.
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I have a headache.
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I decide that I'm going to go take ibuprofen
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because ibuprofen is going to actually trigger cells in my body
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to behave differently.
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And because they're doing that,
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they're actually going to on a neurological level block.
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The headache, right?
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The sensation that's happening in my nervous system
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that's causing that.
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Your drops, correct me if I'm wrong,
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emulate the exact frequency pattern of, for instance,
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an ibuprofen, like one of the products.
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But it actually goes and emulates the same frequency
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as something else would.
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Yes and no.
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That's a complicated question.
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Because remember, our formulas are a little bit different
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than what people would know as homeopathy.
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We call it next level homeopathy
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because we started as a molecular formula
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that was already made in a lab.
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We didn't start from the dilution of the dilution of the dilution
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of the dilution to finally then get an energy pattern.
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So in terms of an ibuprofen or an Advil,
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no, we are not using that information at all.
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The pain in inflammation formula that we have
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that works really well for headaches.
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Actually comes from a proprietary blend of cannabis.
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Okay, so that ibuprofen, but something else.
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Right, so there's this proprietary blend of cannabis.
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And we have mapped and digitized the information of this blend
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that works very well for things like migraines or headaches
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or RMS, those types of things,
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digitized it into the code.
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And now you can take one drop of saline solution
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and not have the side effects,
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not have the psychoactivity.
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There are no contraindications.
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You cannot fail a drug test.
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This is not a drug.
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This is what you are made out of, right?
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So there are 10 formulas and
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calm, for example, I'll use calm
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because calm, the basis of the molecular formula
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that calm is derived from is nerve growth factor.
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Now, we know because of all of Dr.
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Mick Michael's research that nerve growth factor
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is used to balance the autonomic nervous system.
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It's great for people that are overactive.
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I personally feel that anyone that has an overactive child,
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this should be the first go to before synthetic drugs.
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That's great.
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Since pharmaceuticals are great, when you have an emergency,
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you need an emergency solution now.
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You know, you need that.
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But to maintain balance throughout your daily life,
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or to have a way to help you manage your mind
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so that you're decreasing stress,
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so that your body is functioning more optimally,
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then this is a great solution.
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It's an alternative.
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So that's, and that's nerve growth factor.
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So people coming off of addiction,
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people that are high achievers.
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Sequel who just live in the syncopated nervous system.
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Yeah, people that are stressed out.
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And aren't we all, whether we know it or not,
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that answer is yes.
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What I love about this, and again,
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I use the example of how I wasn't feeling well,
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and then got this and got better.
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And we use the example of, you know,
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Lisa had COVID, and then this ended up curing it.
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It's like, and I think there's,
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and I know you talk about the,
22:46
you know, the traveling medicine cabinet.
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Yes.
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In your marketing materials.
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But the, the, what I think is important
22:54
to really highlight about this,
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and what I would stress is that
22:58
we have a tendency to react,
23:01
which I know is the name of one of your,
23:02
what are your allergies, by the way?
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Minor good.
23:05
Yeah, because you just took a job of me to go,
23:07
and you're feeling better.
23:08
But the, the, the idea, so much,
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we talk about pharmacology.
23:13
We talk about, you know, OTCs.
23:14
We talk about homeopathy.
23:17
And we tend to, we're still stuck.
23:20
I'm going to unpack this for a second.
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We, we've grown up, you know,
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those of us who are maybe not teenagers anymore.
23:29
We've grown up in, in an environment
23:32
that has taught us that we reduce symptoms, right?
23:35
We don't actually seek wellness.
23:37
We reduce symptoms.
23:38
And our whole healthcare system is set up
23:40
on that premise, which I think we're starting to see a shift.
23:43
But this idea that we're, we're trying to reduce symptoms.
23:47
What I love about code is that,
23:49
yes, it has the ability to reduce symptoms, right?
23:52
Like, you can certainly take something
23:54
because you have a headache.
23:56
But the reality is, is that the,
23:58
the, I'll use the word formulas,
24:00
but the imprints that you have here,
24:04
they're maintaining balance
24:06
so that you don't ever have a symptom.
24:09
Like, it's, it's almost a preemptive strike.
24:11
Reluctive.
24:12
So, so that you don't end up with symptoms
24:15
that people end up reaching for, again,
24:17
the medicine cabinet, when there's a symptom,
24:20
and that's the only time we pay attention to it,
24:22
but we don't pay attention to it
24:24
before the symptom exists.
24:26
And, and then we're always, I say,
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we're always starting from a deficit
24:30
when we get into a health conversation,
24:33
because I, people ask me all the time,
24:35
like, well, what should I be doing?
24:36
I'm like, I don't know what's going on in your body.
24:37
Right.
24:38
And some days are different than others.
24:40
Correct.
24:40
And physiologically, you're just built differently than me.
24:44
Like, my biology is different
24:46
than everybody else's biology on the planet.
24:49
You know, the amazing part about that,
24:51
but the, you guys are given a, a, a balancing position
24:56
in a, in a body that it never has to become broken.
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Right.
25:01
This is very true.
25:02
When we created the code kit,
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it was really made for the entire household,
25:08
because it's safe for people and animals of all ages.
25:12
So you can be an infant, a toddler,
25:16
the elderly can take it safely,
25:18
and it is not dependent on weight or size.
25:22
Very different than pharmaceuticals,
25:25
because pharmaceuticals are dependent on the weight,
25:27
the size, your age, et cetera.
25:31
With our drops going back to exactly what you said,
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it is a very proactive and individualized approach.
25:39
And that's where Lisa and I speak all the time
25:42
about the importance of people to take responsibility
25:47
for their own health.
25:48
And if you are proactive
25:50
and you are balancing your system
25:53
in all different ways, not just with the code drops,
25:55
but with everything in life,
25:58
then you become a healthier person.
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And so we've given this opportunity for people to take
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the simplicity of saline solution
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that is going to balance many different facets of your body.
26:16
So for instance, balance,
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it's why we call it balance,
26:19
is the cellular health formula.
26:21
So if that's something that, you know,
26:24
it's derived actually from the six most essential trace minerals
26:28
that your body needs.
26:30
You take it AM and PM.
26:32
So there are products like balance
26:34
that we suggest AM and PM on a daily basis.
26:38
Another product that we recommend is protect.
26:41
Protect on a daily basis,
26:44
what that does.
26:44
And again, it's very scientific,
26:46
but it evokes an interferon response.
26:49
So it protects yourself from any foreign agents.
26:53
It just gives you that extra edge, right?
26:55
It boosts immunity.
26:57
It boosts your immunity.
26:59
The idea is, even with recover,
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we don't talk about recover a lot,
27:05
but recover is a phenomenal product,
27:08
pre and post workout.
27:11
It is our muscle and joint formula.
27:13
And if you take a drop of recover before you work out
27:17
and a drop of recover after,
27:19
it actually helps your muscles recover
27:23
with going through a full workout.
27:25
So this is what I'm missing?
27:26
Exactly.
27:27
I need to be jacked on it.
27:29
I'm going to put like a bottle over recover then.
27:31
I mean, that's what I need.
27:32
You know, it's funny to be dropped at a time.
27:35
What drop at a time?
27:38
It's true.
27:39
You know, so recover is a great formula.
27:41
So the other formula that we say
27:44
everyone needs a drop of calm,
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calm is just so great.
27:49
And we all don't even realize the stress
27:53
that we are functioning under.
27:56
I would love to see if you guys at some point.
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And I know you don't have this yet,
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but using calm and measuring HRV scores.
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We do.
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Do you have this?
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Of course, yeah.
28:08
We have a full study.
28:10
We've done two studies, actually.
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One using the Biowell Gas Discharge Visualization Device,
28:15
which measures your bio field.
28:17
And the other is the Neural Check Device,
28:19
which is a heart rate variability.
28:22
Yeah, all day long.
28:23
All day long.
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So what we did is we had a full study
28:26
and everyone took a baseline of their heart rate variability.
28:31
One drop of calm, we waited 30 minutes
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and then we did another scan.
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And it is amazing what one drop of calm showed.
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It did.
28:42
Did they do that as a placebo?
28:44
Like a double blind or something?
28:45
We did not know.
28:46
We haven't gotten there yet.
28:47
That is our next step.
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We actually said we were going to plan to do that this summer.
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So we're just getting our ducks in a row.
28:53
We've got to get our participants together.
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But yeah, we'd like to do that.
28:57
You know, there's multiple.
28:59
If anybody is familiar with this Neural Check Device,
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Dr. Patrick Porter uses it when they show the before
29:07
and after of a brain tap session.
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And so we actually visited Dr. Porter
29:13
and his team up in Newburn, North Carolina.
29:17
And we spent a few days with them and we did multiple tests.
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And another test we did was blood microscopy.
29:24
And we showed the difference between the baseline
29:29
of the blood under the microscope, one drop of calm,
29:33
and then what the blood looked like afterwards.
29:35
We also worked with Dr. Hemel Patel of Versailles Health.
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And he did in vitro study using three of our drops.
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I'll let Lisa go into the details of it.
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But there were cell biopsy studies that we did.
29:52
So this last year, we have really tried in all different ways
29:58
to take a very scientific approach.
30:01
So when people say, well, how does a drop of saline solution work?
30:05
And how does it make this happen or that happen?
30:08
We actually have the research that shows it.
30:11
I love that. I love that.
30:14
So yeah, I'm a code junkie.
30:15
Like I'm not going to lie.
30:16
Like I have the stuff I use it.
30:18
And I'm like, now you've got me thinking,
30:19
like taking a calm while using my brain tap.
30:22
So code works synergistically
30:26
with everything else you're already doing.
30:28
So brain tap, if you're going to sleep at night,
30:30
you would take a drop of dream to help you go to sleep
30:32
while you're using your brain tap
30:33
and reprogramming your brain
30:35
and optimizing your brain,
30:37
optimizing your sleep.
30:38
And everything else of the brain does.
30:41
Calm for stress relief, or if you're exercising,
30:45
or that one intervenes.
30:47
Yeah, yeah, I know, right?
30:49
Or even breathe, if you're doing something
30:51
like molecular hydrogen, or you're going into a yoga class
30:54
and you're going to do breath work,
30:55
you want to clear out the news.
30:56
Hyperbaric, or anything like that.
30:58
Anything, yeah.
30:59
So that's the other thing.
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You know, we talk about code as an alternative
31:04
to over-the-counter in prescription medication,
31:06
but actually each one of our products
31:09
really work with everything that is in biohacking
31:13
and the health and wellness industry.
31:15
Yeah, you're like the ultimate support for everything else.
31:17
And because it's just sailing,
31:18
there's no counter indication.
31:20
That's right. There's no...
31:22
So for instance, we're here with upper A on,
31:26
and many of their sessions,
31:29
they are coding people with our drops.
31:33
So before anyone goes into the session,
31:36
we're giving them a drop of calm,
31:38
if they're going into something that's going to bring them
31:41
into a meditation or a peaceful state.
31:44
We give them breathe, which is great for breath work.
31:48
And what's incredible, at least,
31:50
and I've been doing these conferences now for two years,
31:53
and everyone will open their mouth and just take a drop.
31:56
I mean, let's face it, we've all put away worse things
31:59
in our mouth than sailing solution.
32:01
No one questions it.
32:03
Well, at these biohacking conferences,
32:05
there's some weird stuff that goes on, right?
32:07
I give the hand at all these psychedelics and...
32:10
The other thing is...
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That's your next journey.
32:15
The other thing that we do is we're very intentional,
32:18
because if we're going to shift a mindset,
32:21
and we're going to become more proactive,
32:23
and we're going to work on taking care of ourselves now,
32:27
so that we don't have problems in the future,
32:30
then we have to be intentional
32:32
with what we put on in our body.
32:34
So by all means, find alternatives,
32:36
whether it be this or whatever else you're doing, you know?
32:41
So I have to ask, we've talked about quantum energy
32:44
and like attracts like and so on and so forth.
32:48
You are two women who knew each other adjunctly,
32:52
and you found a formula and dragged her in,
32:55
and you came in like a powerhouse to make this happen,
32:59
and everything went crazy.
33:02
What is it like entering a totally new market?
33:06
I want to know the entrepreneur story as we,
33:08
as we're closing out here, like,
33:10
you've neither one of you have done this before, right?
33:12
Like you're all of a sudden in quantum frequencies,
33:14
and I know you've run businesses,
33:16
and you've been involved in medicine.
33:20
So there's a synergy in that way,
33:22
but you're two women who are trying to storm an industry
33:26
and rewrite the way everything is done, and...
33:29
I'll tell you my take on it, right?
33:32
It is definitely uphill, but I will take the tell you something.
33:37
I have known Lisa for many, many years,
33:40
and she's spoken to me numerous times
33:43
about everything with quantum energy and entanglement
33:48
and things that I knew nothing about,
33:51
and it was completely far into me, completely.
33:54
Well, about a year into being in this company,
33:59
I was learning and learning and learning more and more,
34:02
and it became easy enough for me to really understand,
34:05
but one day we were at a conference,
34:08
and someone else was talking about a completely different
34:12
product, and it was if a light bulb went off on my head.
34:16
You could see it.
34:17
You could literally see it, and it clicked,
34:20
and everything about our products made perfect sense.
34:24
She looked at me, I'm sitting, she was on my right,
34:27
I was sitting on her left, and she looked at me like this.
34:32
Like I get it, I got it.
34:34
And it was like, I felt it through my whole body,
34:37
it was just that moment where she got it,
34:40
and I was like, okay, well, it didn't have to come for me,
34:42
but she got it from someone.
34:44
So now what we try and do, Lisa is very scientific,
34:48
and so she's amazing at explaining things
34:51
in a very scientific way.
34:53
I'm a Lehman, so the way that I try to explain it to people
34:58
is the way that it finally made sense to me
35:03
on how I just got it and understood how it worked.
35:07
But the bottom line is there are every time
35:11
that we speak to someone else,
35:14
and that person understands it in their mind.
35:17
They actually come up with a catchphrase
35:20
in a different way that we would say it.
35:22
And so over the last year, we've really tuned in,
35:25
literally tuned in, and figured out how we want
35:29
to present this to the world.
35:31
And it's just as simple as one drop under the tongue.
35:36
The story that we tell is if you compare
35:40
what we have to photography.
35:42
So back in the day, I always say back in the day,
35:45
there we had cameras with film,
35:48
and photographers would have to take pictures.
35:51
They didn't know what the end result was going to be
35:53
until they went to the dark room.
35:55
And then they took the film out,
35:57
and went through it a full process,
35:59
and they had chemicals that they would place the film in,
36:03
and they also had chemicals that were also on the paper.
36:07
And there was a very unique balance
36:12
between what chemicals they used,
36:14
and they would finally come out with the image of that picture.
36:18
Well, in today's world, we have our smartphones
36:22
that have a digital camera on it,
36:25
and we have digital cameras,
36:27
and that takes a digitized image of the information
36:33
that is being seen through that lens
36:35
in the perfect image, in the perfect balance,
36:39
and you have it right then and there,
36:41
and you don't have to add the chemicals,
36:43
and you don't have to add all the technicalities
36:46
of that chemical mixing with your own body.
36:49
It's the information that you get digitized in one drop,
36:53
in one split second,
36:55
just like that picture that you take on the phone.
36:57
That's so fun.
36:59
Does that make sense?
37:00
It makes a lot of sense,
37:01
because I'm old enough to remember those cameras.
37:03
Back in the day, having to wait seven days
37:06
to find out how they turned out.
37:07
You have to press the button to wind it,
37:09
then you had to bring it to CVS.
37:10
Put in a little black jar,
37:11
and I remember when you actually had to put the flashes
37:13
on top of the camera,
37:15
and then once all six bulbs would go on,
37:17
you get a new flash thing.
37:18
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
37:20
But you know, it's just taking all of these other
37:24
unnecessary things that you need to do.
37:28
And again, it's not dissing photographers,
37:30
because there are photographers,
37:32
the best photographers that use film and dark rooms
37:35
and beautiful photography,
37:38
but making this analogy,
37:40
that imagine it's just information.
37:43
Yeah, it's just code.
37:45
It's just the code.
37:46
And it's the code.
37:47
It's really simple.
37:48
The mind wants to overcomplicate everything.
37:51
So much so.
37:52
But it's so simple.
37:53
Guys, and I will say this,
37:54
like I've had the privilege of watching your journey
37:58
and seeing what you guys are doing,
37:59
and watching the way you show up in the world
38:02
when you go to conferences,
38:03
when you're at events,
38:05
when you're participating in this space,
38:07
and it's no surprise to me that you're crushing it,
38:11
because you show up in the world in a way
38:13
that people want to go along with you.
38:16
Like people want to participate in what you're doing.
38:18
And while the formula is fantastic,
38:21
I will say that it's you that is driving your brand.
38:24
Thank you.
38:25
Thank you.
38:26
The product is great,
38:27
but I genuinely mean that it is the attraction
38:29
to the energy that you both show up in the world with
38:31
that really makes the impact.
38:33
Thank you.
38:34
Well, it's also you contribute.
38:36
It's also people like you with radical generosity
38:39
that help people.
38:40
No, it's you.
38:41
No, it's you.
38:42
No, it's you.
38:44
No, it's you.
38:44
No, you're pretty.
38:45
You're prettier, you're prettier.
38:49
These guys, I can't.
38:50
Guys, I'm going to tell you,
38:52
I want you to go check out Code House.
38:54
Take a look.
38:55
There will be information down in the show notes
38:57
for you to go find them online.
38:59
Guys, is there anything I'll give you the last word
39:01
as we're wrapping up here?
39:03
Talk to people.
39:03
Tell them what they're doing.
39:04
I think just keep an open mind to everything
39:09
because if your mind is open,
39:12
then there are endless possibilities.
39:14
And Albert Einstein said that frequency medicine
39:21
is the medicine of the future.
39:23
And he said it a long time ago.
39:25
And the future is now.
39:29
Thank you.
39:29
That's amazing.
39:30
Thank you so much for tuning in to Performance Driven Living.
39:33
Now we get some balance in our lives with Code Health.
39:36
Take a look at the links.
39:37
And we'll have all of the contact information
39:39
for both Code Health as well as Wendy Cohn Osborne.
39:43
And Dr. Lisa Piper will all be down there in the note.
39:45
So take a look, check them out.
39:46
And I encourage you.
39:47
Let's get some balance back.
39:49
Let's get that preemptive strike
39:51
so that we're not dealing with symptom reduction,
39:53
but rather bringing a holistic approach to our own health.
39:58
Thank you guys so much.