Latest / Aired Out / Sweethearts & Heroes - Pat Fish
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- 0:45Speaker 1: All right, good morning.
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- 4:36Speaker 3: All right, thanks Jadj, Yeah.
- 4:39Speaker 2: You as well. Always always so nice to have you on.
- 4:42Speaker 2: We're going about forty three degrees right now. This forecast
- 4:46Speaker 2: is unbelievably boring. I'm just gonna be honest with you.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Cloudy Skies in forty four today, same story tomorrow, Cloudy
- 4:54Speaker 2: Skies in thirty two tonight. I know Gee is just
- 4:58Speaker 2: loving this forecast, but uh yeah, we're not taking you
- 5:02Speaker 2: to the curvy couch this morning. We're taking you all
- 5:06Speaker 2: the way to Peru, New York, where I have a
- 5:11Speaker 2: couple of good friends that are standing by there. They
- 5:13Speaker 2: are right now, Pat Fish, what's going on, buddy? How
- 5:16Speaker 2: the heck are you?
- 5:18Speaker 4: What is up? My man? How are you?
- 5:19Speaker 2: JD? Brother? It is a pleasure Sweethearts in Heroes Day,
- 5:23Speaker 2: as I think most know and expect now on Wednesdays.
- 5:28Speaker 2: And dude, it's been a long time since I've had
- 5:32Speaker 2: you on.
- 5:33Speaker 4: Well, I think we figured out the secret here, JD.
- 5:36Speaker 5: Forever I haven't been able to be on your show
- 5:39Speaker 5: because Tom keeps me so darn busy. But you know,
- 5:42Speaker 5: I figured seeing as though it's a school that I've
- 5:46Speaker 5: been in so much over the years, and I've met
- 5:49Speaker 5: some really great people at Peru and they've really become
- 5:52Speaker 5: a large part of the Sweethearts and Heroes community that
- 5:55Speaker 5: I bring on a couple of friends from Peru High.
- 5:58Speaker 2: School please introduce uh. And this is the school that
- 6:03Speaker 2: I was so fortunate up to to get up and
- 6:06Speaker 2: visit and join the Fish Perspective podcast. It is introduce
- 6:13Speaker 2: these two powerhouses next to you.
- 6:17Speaker 6: I'm Laila.
- 6:18Speaker 7: I'm a senior here at Prue High School. I do
- 6:22Speaker 7: indoor track and field. I do outdoor track and field
- 6:24Speaker 7: across country. And I'm also I'm also president of the
- 6:29Speaker 7: Yuck Club.
- 6:30Speaker 2: The what club now?
- 6:32Speaker 6: The Yuck Club. It's actually really interesting.
- 6:36Speaker 7: Basically our motto is, like, you know how people say,
- 6:39Speaker 7: don't yuck people's young, Well, we say.
- 6:44Speaker 6: We yum, you're yup?
- 6:47Speaker 2: Uh, please explain carry on.
- 6:51Speaker 7: So basically, like last week, we went out around the
- 6:55Speaker 7: town and we like picked up dog poop all around
- 6:58Speaker 7: town because you know, they Yuck Club, we got to
- 7:01Speaker 7: do the dirty jobs. So we just went around town
- 7:04Speaker 7: since the snow all melted outside and we just picked
- 7:08Speaker 7: up the dog poop.
- 7:09Speaker 4: Where did this club come from?
- 7:11Speaker 6: Well last year? Yeah, Carter?
- 7:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:14Speaker 8: So my name is Adam Carter and one of the
- 7:16Speaker 8: high school counsels here, been here for eighteen years. I
- 7:19Speaker 8: actually co teach a couple of the leadership classes as well,
- 7:22Speaker 8: and I'm actually the advisor of the Yuck Club. So
- 7:24Speaker 8: this kind of got expired by the Thirteen Pillows book
- 7:28Speaker 8: that Tom Murphy wrote.
- 7:29Speaker 4: The second chapter about.
- 7:30Speaker 8: Broken windows kind of picking up things and keeping the
- 7:33Speaker 8: school looking good and clean, and we thought that's a
- 7:36Speaker 8: great idea, but we wanted to take a little bit farther,
- 7:38Speaker 8: so kind of doing the really yucky stuff that people
- 7:42Speaker 8: don't want to do, and beyond just picking up papers
- 7:46Speaker 8: in the hallway, we kind of go real a lot
- 7:48Speaker 8: further and do the real yucky stuff, like Leila talked
- 7:51Speaker 8: about picking.
- 7:52Speaker 4: Up dog poop.
- 7:52Speaker 8: But you know, I advised kids about careers and stuff
- 7:56Speaker 8: on one of the trenses. We don't have a lot
- 7:57Speaker 8: of people going to manual labor, so a lot of
- 8:00Speaker 8: people want to do that. So we've got a lot
- 8:02Speaker 8: of kids who are kind of inspired by this, and
- 8:05Speaker 8: we are doing some things throughout the school that normally
- 8:08Speaker 8: people don't want to do, kind of going into the
- 8:09Speaker 8: bathrooms and doing some cleaning. And we actually had a
- 8:13Speaker 8: plumbing league last week where one of the kids was
- 8:14Speaker 8: helping one of our custodians put the wax ring on.
- 8:17Speaker 4: So it's actually really cool.
- 8:18Speaker 8: The guns are getting dirty doing a lot of stuff,
- 8:20Speaker 8: so it's It was pretty small last year, but words
- 8:23Speaker 8: kind of got around and we've grown.
- 8:25Speaker 4: We're up to twenty five kids now, so it's doing great.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Pat, What do you do? What are you doing up
- 8:29Speaker 2: there at Peru Central School.
- 8:31Speaker 5: I know that I'm fascinated by this, right, I did
- 8:36Speaker 5: not know that it was Sweethearts and Heroes inspired. That's
- 8:38Speaker 5: actually really kind of neat. What's your favorite thing that
- 8:40Speaker 5: you've done with the yut cluck so far?
- 8:44Speaker 6: Definitely so probably one of the grossest things.
- 8:47Speaker 7: But in the cafeteria, whenever people are like chewing gum,
- 8:50Speaker 7: they don't really want to get up out of their
- 8:51Speaker 7: seats and like they so they stick it under the table.
- 8:54Speaker 7: So we kind of just like take the scrapers and
- 8:57Speaker 7: like scrape it off the bottom of the table. And
- 9:00Speaker 7: it's honestly kind of satisfying, Like it's it's really like
- 9:03Speaker 7: fun to do.
- 9:04Speaker 2: Wow, Pat, to look on your face, man.
- 9:08Speaker 4: Dude, were you were you? I was the opposite of that.
- 9:11Speaker 4: I was putting gum under.
- 9:12Speaker 2: The tape, so was I and other things.
- 9:16Speaker 4: But they're doing some of the jobs that people don't
- 9:18Speaker 4: want to do.
- 9:18Speaker 5: That's right, And JD you want to know what I
- 9:20Speaker 5: think is the absolute coolest part about the club.
- 9:23Speaker 4: What's that that it's not real? April four? Well, she
- 9:50Speaker 4: really has to put her action skills to the test.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was that was an Academy Award
- 9:56Speaker 2: winning performance right there. Oh my, and Pat, here's here's
- 10:01Speaker 2: me revealing that I put other things other than the
- 10:05Speaker 2: gum underneath the table.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Wow.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Oh, you guys, you guys got me really good. What
- 10:14Speaker 2: do they say on April Fool's Day? They say something
- 10:17Speaker 2: like the last person you should trust is your friends,
- 10:23Speaker 2: which is.
- 10:23Speaker 5: Why I knew that I couldn't be the culprit here
- 10:26Speaker 5: and I needed Layla and mister Carter to help out here.
- 10:30Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think they did a really nice job.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Listen, it was legit. You saw the look on my face,
- 10:38Speaker 2: You saw my reaction. You guys got me one nicely done.
- 10:43Speaker 4: Amazing. I think we get a right.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Hey, man, Today is, as we said, April first, the
- 10:52Speaker 2: beginning of National Poetry Month. Pat, and I know that
- 10:58Speaker 2: that you're a poet, you're a writer, you're a rapper,
- 11:01Speaker 2: you're a lot of different things. And man, what are
- 11:06Speaker 2: you guys going to be doing in the school?
- 11:09Speaker 5: So today this is one of my I have a
- 11:12Speaker 5: lot of favorite schools to visit, but this is one
- 11:14Speaker 5: of my favorite schools to visit.
- 11:16Speaker 4: JD. And you know the poetry book.
- 11:19Speaker 5: I think we had this discussion the very first time
- 11:21Speaker 5: I was on your show, in which you know, you're
- 11:24Speaker 5: you're bringing a poet on and you're like, oh boy,
- 11:26Speaker 5: we got poetry. And I have nothing against traditional poetry,
- 11:32Speaker 5: but I think that I would consider my own poetry
- 11:35Speaker 5: to be pretty low brow humor version of poetry. And
- 11:40Speaker 5: you know, roses are read, violets are blue, you're on
- 11:43Speaker 5: the toilet taking a poo, all that type of fun stuff,
- 11:46Speaker 5: and not so much beautiful Emily Dickinson and Walt Whitman
- 11:50Speaker 5: poetry that you're looking for. So the thing with Boredom
- 11:54Speaker 5: School for me is that it's supposed to be fun.
- 11:57Speaker 5: And I think the same thing when it comes to school,
- 11:59Speaker 5: and both of these two human beings.
- 12:02Speaker 4: I have next to me.
- 12:03Speaker 5: In reality, I'm not in the fictional world of the
- 12:06Speaker 5: Yup Club, but in reality they are pivotal members of
- 12:11Speaker 5: the school community that Peru has built around what they
- 12:15Speaker 5: call their Leadership class, which incorporates a large amount of
- 12:20Speaker 5: sweethearts and heroes work whether it comes to circles or
- 12:24Speaker 5: visiting the elementary school and doing bully drills, things that
- 12:26Speaker 5: you've talked about with some of our other team members
- 12:28Speaker 5: that have been on here. I can confidently say that
- 12:32Speaker 5: I could never show up to Peru High School again,
- 12:35Speaker 5: and neither could Tom, and neither could any of our
- 12:37Speaker 5: other team members. And they have a good thing going
- 12:40Speaker 5: here because of these two and many other awesome human
- 12:43Speaker 5: beings that have really gotten the ball rolling. So I'm
- 12:46Speaker 5: visiting some classes that are functioning without my help and
- 12:49Speaker 5: having some fun, you know, adding in some interesting games
- 12:53Speaker 5: and doing some interesting stuff and.
- 12:55Speaker 4: Keeping people on their toes.
- 12:56Speaker 5: So they don't know what to expect, but really they
- 12:59Speaker 5: have a good thing going here. I think, Leila, how
- 13:02Speaker 5: many circles you've been in since you started that?
- 13:04Speaker 7: For real?
- 13:05Speaker 6: Probably like twenty, Like more than twenty.
- 13:10Speaker 2: So Leila explain to us for folks that may not
- 13:15Speaker 2: be familiar. And man, I wish I was doing this
- 13:18Speaker 2: when I was in high school? What what is circle?
- 13:20Speaker 2: What is that experience? How often is it done at
- 13:26Speaker 2: your school?
- 13:28Speaker 6: So we actually have.
- 13:29Speaker 7: A class for like our circles and our leadership. So
- 13:33Speaker 7: for me right now, I'm actually taking it as an
- 13:35Speaker 7: independent study. So this year I can kind of just
- 13:38Speaker 7: like pop into circles as it goes, like first period.
- 13:41Speaker 7: If I'm not doing much, I'll like go into the
- 13:43Speaker 7: classes that they have. So we do have the option
- 13:46Speaker 7: like if you don't have if you really want to
- 13:48Speaker 7: be like involved in leadership, but you like don't have
- 13:51Speaker 7: the time in your schedule to actually do it, you
- 13:53Speaker 7: can just take it as an independent study, which is
- 13:56Speaker 7: really interesting.
- 13:56Speaker 6: We still do all the work that everyone does.
- 14:00Speaker 7: We like have went to CVPH to give presentations to
- 14:05Speaker 7: the board just about like funding and everything and about
- 14:08Speaker 7: like what we are.
- 14:09Speaker 6: And so even as an.
- 14:10Speaker 7: Independent study kid, I have the opportunities to do everything
- 14:15Speaker 7: that a normal class would do. So, like the classes
- 14:18Speaker 7: are basically set up where like you walk in either
- 14:20Speaker 7: you can have a circle that day, you can just
- 14:23Speaker 7: like do games that day. Kids go to the elementary
- 14:26Speaker 7: school a lot to do bully drails.
- 14:30Speaker 4: Yeah, so what's a circle?
- 14:31Speaker 6: A circle?
- 14:33Speaker 7: Well, you can sit in a circle and you can
- 14:37Speaker 7: talk about anything. You can talk about like funny things.
- 14:41Speaker 7: You can get really deep into a circle, really like
- 14:45Speaker 7: anything you want to talk about. You can talk about
- 14:47Speaker 7: the weekend, you can go into depth. You can just
- 14:49Speaker 7: hits like circle surface level. You have some rules to circle,
- 14:53Speaker 7: like no talking about the talking piece. What set in
- 14:57Speaker 7: circle stays in circle, like the talking piece only goes
- 15:00Speaker 7: like one way around, and confidentiality is key.
- 15:04Speaker 2: You guys call it. You guys call it a talking
- 15:08Speaker 2: talking piece. I call it a microphone. But yeah, that's
- 15:12Speaker 2: that's probably one of the hardest things, at least from
- 15:17Speaker 2: my perspective of Circle is that if you don't have
- 15:21Speaker 2: that microphone in front of you, you're not talking, You're listening.
- 15:28Speaker 2: Not easy to do.
- 15:31Speaker 4: No, no, not at all.
- 15:32Speaker 5: And miss mister Carter here is an awesome counselor at
- 15:37Speaker 5: this school, but he also is one of the teachers
- 15:39Speaker 5: of this course, which has been a really cool thing
- 15:42Speaker 5: to see. You know, a lot of times stepping out
- 15:45Speaker 5: of being that counselor role is going into teaching a course,
- 15:49Speaker 5: give some interesting perspectives and let you connect with a
- 15:52Speaker 5: bunch of students, which you don't always get the opportunity
- 15:54Speaker 5: to do.
- 15:55Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 15:55Speaker 8: Absolutely, I mean, like I said, I've been doing this
- 15:57Speaker 8: for eighteen years as a counselor, so this is kind
- 15:59Speaker 8: of a breath of fresh area, doing something different despice
- 16:02Speaker 8: of my career and it just it just lets me
- 16:04Speaker 8: have more kids and work with them. We're really the
- 16:07Speaker 8: messages to build a positive school environment and really create
- 16:11Speaker 8: a level of confidence with these kids that they could
- 16:13Speaker 8: be themselves and not worry what other people think about themselves.
- 16:16Speaker 8: I think you get a lot of teenagers who try
- 16:17Speaker 8: to conform to fit in, and that's not where we're about.
- 16:20Speaker 8: We embrace diversity and being unique. So that's one of
- 16:24Speaker 8: the big messages that we put And I've had the
- 16:27Speaker 8: pleasure of having Leila in my class for two years,
- 16:29Speaker 8: so I've watched her growing to the impressive young woman
- 16:31Speaker 8: this she is today.
- 16:33Speaker 2: I want to throw something at all three of you here.
- 16:36Speaker 2: When I was up at Peru Central School and setting
- 16:40Speaker 2: on circle and a podcast, I honestly in pat I
- 16:46Speaker 2: don't know if you knew this, but I it was
- 16:51Speaker 2: my first circle experience and I wasn't familiar with it.
- 16:55Speaker 2: I didn't know what the rules were, and I got
- 16:59Speaker 2: a couple of dirty looks from from Tom, who was
- 17:03Speaker 2: part of the circle when when I attempted to speak
- 17:08Speaker 2: out of out of turn, not knowing the rules of listening,
- 17:15Speaker 2: the and the art of listening and the daily practice
- 17:20Speaker 2: of listening and you know me, I'm a pretty inquisitive guy.
- 17:26Speaker 2: I've got a lot of follow up questions, and I
- 17:29Speaker 2: just couldn't do that. I went into and if you
- 17:33Speaker 2: go back and watch any of that tape, you'll see
- 17:36Speaker 2: that I kind of uh went into a little bit
- 17:39Speaker 2: of a panic because I was looking around for a
- 17:44Speaker 2: pen a pencil, a piece of paper so that I
- 17:48Speaker 2: could keep track of what was being said, so that
- 17:52Speaker 2: I so that I could go back afterwards and ask
- 17:56Speaker 2: follow up questions. But here's the thing about these students
- 18:01Speaker 2: that are doing this is that maybe maybe they're allowed
- 18:06Speaker 2: to to take notes, maybe they're not. I don't know.
- 18:08Speaker 2: You guys can tell me. But even if they, even
- 18:11Speaker 2: if they regardless of whether or not they are or not,
- 18:15Speaker 2: it gives it gives a portal, an opportunity for those
- 18:22Speaker 2: kids who are forced to listen to do their own
- 18:27Speaker 2: follow up questions. Whether it's a week later, two weeks later,
- 18:31Speaker 2: whether it's at school, off school, at the grocery store,
- 18:34Speaker 2: on the school bus, whatever, how are things going? Has
- 18:38Speaker 2: your situation improved? Has it changed? I've got a similar story,
- 18:43Speaker 2: and you know it just it's a conduit to bring
- 18:47Speaker 2: people together.
- 18:52Speaker 5: The I'm not sure what the question was there, JD
- 18:56Speaker 5: is more of a statement, But I think what you're
- 19:00Speaker 5: getting at is the idea that this listening that we're
- 19:03Speaker 5: doing and this communicating that we're doing when we're sitting
- 19:06Speaker 5: in circle, whether it be with young people adults, it's
- 19:11Speaker 5: okay to not take notes and it is okay to
- 19:13Speaker 5: be flustered by all the information that's coming in because
- 19:16Speaker 5: you're not there to perform when it gets to your turn,
- 19:20Speaker 5: which is something that's a little bit different for you specifically,
- 19:24Speaker 5: because what are you doing right now, JD.
- 19:26Speaker 4: You are entertaining people.
- 19:28Speaker 5: There's people listening to you for a reason, and I
- 19:30Speaker 5: think when the podcast has done it through, that's a
- 19:33Speaker 5: challenge to transition into that mode because you want to
- 19:36Speaker 5: say things that people want to listen to. But once
- 19:39Speaker 5: you're in circle, I always push against that and say,
- 19:41Speaker 5: you know, speak from the heart when it gets to
- 19:43Speaker 5: your turn, and then take the rest of the opportunity
- 19:46Speaker 5: to just listen. That's okay, and yeah, there's gonna be
- 19:49Speaker 5: tidbits of information, But I always think the best facilitators
- 19:52Speaker 5: when I'm training students, when I'm training educators are the
- 19:55Speaker 5: ones that don't feel so flustered that they have to
- 19:58Speaker 5: respond to every little bit and detail and instead take
- 20:02Speaker 5: all the information that's coming in, boil it down to
- 20:05Speaker 5: a consensus, and steer the conversation in a new direction,
- 20:09Speaker 5: sort of like what's been done at the dinner table
- 20:11Speaker 5: for hundreds of years, right to hear what people are
- 20:14Speaker 5: talking about and Okay, this conversation is getting a little stale.
- 20:18Speaker 5: That's where I think JD would be an awesome circle facilitator,
- 20:22Speaker 5: is that you know where to steer the conversation to next.
- 20:25Speaker 5: So instead of just responding to one at a time,
- 20:27Speaker 5: you take the collectible of what people are saying and
- 20:30Speaker 5: saying okay, and next, this is what we're going to
- 20:32Speaker 5: talk about. Let's bring the conversation in a new direction.
- 20:36Speaker 2: Do you have you guys, have any of you ever
- 20:39Speaker 2: finished a circle and just been like, wow, I got
- 20:46Speaker 2: a process, Uh what has just been received by my ears?
- 20:53Speaker 2: And I need to digest this for a little bit.
- 20:57Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, I've bet a men circles personally, where like
- 21:02Speaker 7: after like we like ended the circle, we just like
- 21:05Speaker 7: sat there for a couple of minutes and just kind
- 21:07Speaker 7: of like took it all in. It's like it's really
- 21:11Speaker 7: like interesting on like the feeling of everyone in the room.
- 21:15Speaker 7: You just feel like so connected with them that you
- 21:17Speaker 7: just like sit there for a second and you just
- 21:19Speaker 7: like enjoy everybody's presence, like you all know everything you've
- 21:22Speaker 7: been talking about. But then you can also trust them
- 21:25Speaker 7: all not to go out and say something to other
- 21:27Speaker 7: people about it.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Yeah, mister Crowner, see you not nud in your head?
- 21:31Speaker 2: You want to add something.
- 21:32Speaker 8: To that, Yeah, I mean just the pigback off of that.
- 21:36Speaker 8: What's so important. What I've noticed in the classes is
- 21:39Speaker 8: as the year progresses on, we develop comfort with each
- 21:42Speaker 8: other and then you open up more and that trust
- 21:44Speaker 8: is developed, and you see kids from different backgrounds who
- 21:47Speaker 8: normally want to talk. So say, for instance, you know
- 21:50Speaker 8: the basketball superstar with the person who's good at in
- 21:53Speaker 8: the band and an artist or something like that. I've
- 21:55Speaker 8: had classes with why diversity of kids who are too
- 21:58Speaker 8: different things you normally want to converse have become really
- 22:00Speaker 8: tight and close, and you find out that maybe on
- 22:03Speaker 8: the outside you think you have a lot different, but
- 22:04Speaker 8: once you do these circles, you actually really have a
- 22:07Speaker 8: lot in common and we're going to sometimes with the
- 22:08Speaker 8: same struggles. So that's what really brings us together in
- 22:11Speaker 8: that bond.
- 22:11Speaker 4: Is so strong.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Yourself, your principal there, kudos to your administration. You guys
- 22:19Speaker 2: really get it, frankly, And this is I don't know
- 22:23Speaker 2: how many years you've had Sweethearts and heroes on board
- 22:26Speaker 2: at the school.
- 22:26Speaker 4: You tell me, I think four years. I think we're
- 22:31Speaker 4: going on.
- 22:31Speaker 8: This is my third year involved, So yeah, that was
- 22:33Speaker 8: involved one or two years I think before me. So yeah,
- 22:36Speaker 8: We've it's spread. We're up to the level one, level two,
- 22:39Speaker 8: and level three, and hopefully this keeps going because I
- 22:42Speaker 8: think it's.
- 22:42Speaker 4: One of the best things I've ever been part of.
- 22:44Speaker 8: And I wish every school in America could do this
- 22:46Speaker 8: because it's so important, so much more important than learning
- 22:49Speaker 8: math in my opinion, you know what I mean. That's
- 22:51Speaker 8: developing that connection and mental health and talking about the
- 22:54Speaker 8: struggles we're all going through.
- 22:56Speaker 2: There's so many different tentacles to sweethearts and heroes. The
- 23:01Speaker 2: Student Teacher Empathy program is is just one of them.
- 23:06Speaker 2: Any of you can speak to that.
- 23:12Speaker 6: I'm not like involved.
- 23:13Speaker 4: I did you presented last year?
- 23:15Speaker 8: Right?
- 23:16Speaker 6: I didn't.
- 23:16Speaker 7: You didn't, Okay, I was going to, but then my
- 23:20Speaker 7: partner had like graduated.
- 23:21Speaker 5: And I just never makes it a bit yea, yeah,
- 23:25Speaker 5: the uh, you know, that's a it's a really neat
- 23:27Speaker 5: thing that I think every school looks a little bit different.
- 23:30Speaker 5: At this school, it's kind of been baked into part
- 23:33Speaker 5: of the course and.
- 23:36Speaker 4: Uh, you know, there's other schools that might do it.
- 23:38Speaker 5: It's just a program and attempt to have students go down.
- 23:41Speaker 4: But the uh.
- 23:43Speaker 5: The time spent building these presentations and having them go
- 23:47Speaker 5: down to the elementary students and presenting to them.
- 23:50Speaker 4: Yes, it's valuable.
- 23:51Speaker 5: Yes it is more efficient than Tom and Rick presenting
- 23:55Speaker 5: at different schools all over the place. But I think
- 23:57Speaker 5: the true value and the stuff program is that time
- 24:01Speaker 5: spent essentially public speaking. And not that public speaking is
- 24:06Speaker 5: going to be everybody's future career, but the nervousness and.
- 24:11Speaker 4: The vulnerability that goes along with that.
- 24:13Speaker 5: You are going to have to have uncomfortable conversations in
- 24:15Speaker 5: your life, You are going to have to go in
- 24:18Speaker 5: front of people that you're a little bit nervous about
- 24:20Speaker 5: going in front of in your life, and this is
- 24:23Speaker 5: great practice for that in a pretty non threatening environment,
- 24:27Speaker 5: and you're doing it with other students who are also
- 24:30Speaker 5: attempting to go present at the elementary school and work
- 24:33Speaker 5: on a presentation. And I've seen some great presentations. I've
- 24:36Speaker 5: seen some ones that are eh. But at the end
- 24:39Speaker 5: of the day, everybody's working towards the same direction. And
- 24:42Speaker 5: I think that's what's really special about it is because
- 24:45Speaker 5: it's a class program whatever you want to call it,
- 24:49Speaker 5: depending on the school that you're in, where these students
- 24:53Speaker 5: are putting themselves out there, becoming vulnerable and stepping in
- 24:57Speaker 5: front of a room full of people to talk to
- 24:58Speaker 5: them about being super heroes and young impressionable people too
- 25:02Speaker 5: that are going to be very excited about the high
- 25:04Speaker 5: schoolers coming down because they're naturally the coolest people in
- 25:07Speaker 5: the whole community when you're in elementary school.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Pat your dad, I was just recently on the air
- 25:15Speaker 2: with me superintendent up there. What do you what kind
- 25:20Speaker 2: of conversation? So do you guys have.
- 25:23Speaker 5: People my dad and I Yeah, Well, weirdly enough, we
- 25:29Speaker 5: did fix a toilet ring this past weekend, which is
- 25:33Speaker 5: why we got talking about the yut club to begin with.
- 25:37Speaker 5: So besides that and talking about how bad the Jets are,
- 25:42Speaker 5: I've learned a whole lot from having conversations with my dad,
- 25:45Speaker 5: And you know, sometimes I'll get home from a school
- 25:47Speaker 5: and I'll just pick his brain as far as not
- 25:51Speaker 5: not individual sweethearts and heroes programming stuff, but more so
- 25:55Speaker 5: understanding how a school community works. And and it just
- 26:00Speaker 5: makes me look at things a little bit different when
- 26:02Speaker 5: I step into that principal's office because I grew up there.
- 26:06Speaker 4: You know, I grew up in the principal's office.
- 26:08Speaker 5: Not in an trouble way every once in a while,
- 26:12Speaker 5: but more so, I grew up in the principal's office
- 26:15Speaker 5: showing up to school early because I had to get
- 26:17Speaker 5: there early because he had to get work done before school.
- 26:19Speaker 5: And when you sit there and you see how it operates,
- 26:22Speaker 5: you start to pay attention and look at little differences
- 26:24Speaker 5: in those other principal's office and see how those little
- 26:27Speaker 5: broken windows.
- 26:28Speaker 4: Might trickle into the rest of the school community.
- 26:31Speaker 5: Right if you go into a principal's office and it
- 26:33Speaker 5: looks like a disaster, well you know what's that saying
- 26:36Speaker 5: to the rest of the school community. Well, things are
- 26:38Speaker 5: going to be unorganized here, and things are not going
- 26:40Speaker 5: to run.
- 26:41Speaker 4: As smoothly as they should be.
- 26:43Speaker 5: And sometimes you meet teachers and they say certain things
- 26:47Speaker 5: about certain programs that they have in place, and because
- 26:50Speaker 5: of that, I think I just have a little bit
- 26:53Speaker 5: lifelong of an understanding of the way that a school
- 26:58Speaker 5: operates and how to make small changes and how those
- 27:01Speaker 5: small changes can have big impacts.
- 27:04Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to see that episode that
- 27:07Speaker 2: I had with your dad?
- 27:10Speaker 4: Well, I didn't watch it.
- 27:12Speaker 5: I listened to it in the car because I'm always
- 27:16Speaker 5: drive in different places, So I listened to the whole
- 27:18Speaker 5: thing that actually that day when I got out of
- 27:21Speaker 5: the school that I was in, I listened through all
- 27:23Speaker 5: of it. So unless you were doing cool like dance
- 27:25Speaker 5: moves or anything, I don't think I missed anything from
- 27:28Speaker 5: just listening to.
- 27:28Speaker 2: Oh you missed some very serious dance moves. Man. Uh,
- 27:34Speaker 2: your dad is he is so portant, he's so proud
- 27:37Speaker 2: of you.
- 27:38Speaker 4: Many thank you, oxtician.
- 27:44Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, he's He's an awesome human being.
- 27:50Speaker 4: I've learned a whole lot from him. Great guy.
- 27:52Speaker 5: And uh, yeah, that's about all I can say on
- 27:57Speaker 5: the topic.
- 27:58Speaker 4: I have and to many a schools.
- 28:01Speaker 5: He was on a middle school board for years in
- 28:03Speaker 5: New York State, so there's a whole lot of schools
- 28:05Speaker 5: where I've gone to where they've you know, hit me
- 28:07Speaker 5: with the fish.
- 28:09Speaker 4: Are you Mark Son? And yes, I am Mark Son?
- 28:12Speaker 4: And then you you know, work your way through it.
- 28:14Speaker 5: I'm always excited when they know my mom she was
- 28:16Speaker 5: a gym teacher for years, and I'm like, yeah, that's awesome.
- 28:19Speaker 5: But uh, yeah, I'm lucky to have grown up in
- 28:23Speaker 5: the household that I grew up in. I had some
- 28:25Speaker 5: amazing older sisters, had amazing parents, and I've met a
- 28:28Speaker 5: whole lot of young people that aren't blessed with that
- 28:30Speaker 5: life growing up. And I can I can say that
- 28:34Speaker 5: I'm a lucky human being for the way that I
- 28:36Speaker 5: grew up.
- 28:37Speaker 2: La, you're a senior.
- 28:41Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a senior.
- 28:42Speaker 2: There's a lot of kids at the school at Perue Central.
- 28:47Speaker 6: School, a lot, Yeah, there is a lot.
- 28:53Speaker 2: What what's that? What's what's the number? Mister Carter?
- 28:57Speaker 4: You're around one thousand.
- 29:00Speaker 2: And how many guidance counselors are there?
- 29:04Speaker 4: Three in the high school?
- 29:05Speaker 1: Just three?
- 29:08Speaker 4: Just three? I'm a busy man.
- 29:11Speaker 2: What do you what do you say to and Leila?
- 29:14Speaker 2: I got a question for you here in a minute.
- 29:16Speaker 2: But what do you say, mister Carter to students who
- 29:21Speaker 2: are frankly lost, not sure of the path that they
- 29:30Speaker 2: should be on the direction they should be pushing towards.
- 29:35Speaker 2: It's a lot of pressure. There's pressure from other friends
- 29:40Speaker 2: who are maybe going to college, maybe not going to college,
- 29:45Speaker 2: maybe going to college but taking a year off first.
- 29:48Speaker 2: There's pressure coming from from parents, from from family members.
- 29:54Speaker 2: What do you say to someone who's in your office
- 29:57Speaker 2: and they're like, I just I know him in my
- 29:59Speaker 2: ju in your year, or maybe I'm in my senior year,
- 30:03Speaker 2: and I just don't know. I don't know what I
- 30:06Speaker 2: want to do. I don't know what I want to be.
- 30:09Speaker 2: I'm not sure, and I'm peeking out with stress on this.
- 30:14Speaker 4: Sure. I think I'm kind of an outlier with this
- 30:16Speaker 4: because I.
- 30:18Speaker 8: Don't believe that an eighteen year old shouldn't necessarily know
- 30:20Speaker 8: what they want to do when they graduate from high school.
- 30:22Speaker 8: I think it's wrong that we put this pressure on
- 30:25Speaker 8: them because there's a reason the average person changes their
- 30:28Speaker 8: career five times because they're young.
- 30:31Speaker 4: They are young.
- 30:32Speaker 8: Adults, and a lot of them still have life to
- 30:34Speaker 8: live before they're truly I think, ready to settle down. So, yeah,
- 30:38Speaker 8: I get a lot of those every year, and I
- 30:39Speaker 8: tell them it's not a big deal. There's no pressure
- 30:41Speaker 8: if you don't. If you're not ready for college, don't go.
- 30:44Speaker 8: College isn't for everybody, So I'm not one to push
- 30:48Speaker 8: one way or the other. I'll support whatever they think,
- 30:49Speaker 8: and if they even don't know what they want to do,
- 30:51Speaker 8: I just reassure them that is okay. Because I'm forty
- 30:54Speaker 8: three years old and sometimes I don't know what I
- 30:56Speaker 8: want to do. You know the things I'm thinking about,
- 31:00Speaker 8: So that's kind of the avenue I go out with
- 31:02Speaker 8: them lately.
- 31:03Speaker 2: You know, some of us spend our whole lives just
- 31:08Speaker 2: trying to figure it out, and there's nothing wrong with that,
- 31:12Speaker 2: but do you have do you have an idea of
- 31:16Speaker 2: what direction you want to go in? What are you
- 31:18Speaker 2: going to do?
- 31:20Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 31:20Speaker 7: So for me, it's kind of the opposite. I've always
- 31:23Speaker 7: really known what I've wanted to do. I was little,
- 31:26Speaker 7: I wanted to go into the medical field because my
- 31:28Speaker 7: mom was in the medical field. And now I'm going
- 31:32Speaker 7: to CDPH radiology program, so I'm going to become a
- 31:36Speaker 7: radiologist in two peers. So I've wanted to do that
- 31:40Speaker 7: since ninth tenth grade.
- 31:43Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, do you believe? Do you? Yeah? I was
- 31:49Speaker 2: just gonna ask you, do you believe if if you
- 31:51Speaker 2: want to do something badly, by God, you're going to
- 31:54Speaker 2: do it.
- 31:56Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 31:56Speaker 7: Actually, so I last year I tried to hear into
- 32:00Speaker 7: New Visions, which is like a program through cv TECH
- 32:05Speaker 7: and it's basically where like the seniors can like go
- 32:08Speaker 7: into they like miss half the day here at school
- 32:11Speaker 7: and they go into the hospital and they learn there.
- 32:14Speaker 6: They get like their math and science credits there.
- 32:16Speaker 7: And I really really wanted to do that, and then
- 32:20Speaker 7: I didn't get in. I had an interview, I wrote
- 32:23Speaker 7: an essay, I did everything, and.
- 32:25Speaker 6: I didn't get in. And I thought that was like
- 32:27Speaker 6: the end of the world.
- 32:28Speaker 7: That I was like so upset, and I thought there's
- 32:31Speaker 7: no chance in me getting into the radiology program through
- 32:35Speaker 7: CVPH because they only take fourteen people every year. So
- 32:40Speaker 7: I was like, I'm there's no chance I'm going to
- 32:42Speaker 7: get into this. But I didn't get into New Visions.
- 32:44Speaker 3: And.
- 32:46Speaker 7: I don't know my I was just talking to my
- 32:47Speaker 7: mom about it, and I was like, I really want
- 32:49Speaker 7: to get in, but like I like, I know I'm
- 32:51Speaker 7: not going to get in.
- 32:52Speaker 6: I had so much doubts to myself.
- 32:54Speaker 7: You just really got to believe in yourself, Like that's
- 32:56Speaker 7: the one thing that I kind of stand by is
- 32:58Speaker 7: like everything happens for a reason. So I truly think that,
- 33:01Speaker 7: like I didn't get into new visions so I could
- 33:03Speaker 7: take the classes here at school and then that would
- 33:07Speaker 7: help like advance my application for the radiology program, and
- 33:10Speaker 7: I got into radiology and now that's what I'll be
- 33:13Speaker 7: doing after high school.
- 33:14Speaker 2: I love that, Pat, go ahead, I know you want
- 33:16Speaker 2: to say something, man, you.
- 33:19Speaker 5: Know, kind of connecting those those two questions you had
- 33:23Speaker 5: for for the questions you had for both of them
- 33:28Speaker 5: when it comes to those students that aren't really sure
- 33:30Speaker 5: and don't really have.
- 33:31Speaker 4: A game plan.
- 33:32Speaker 5: And I think those students, whether it's having a game
- 33:35Speaker 5: plan or not having a game plan, as you said,
- 33:38Speaker 5: I don't think that matters too much. I think a
- 33:40Speaker 5: better predictor of success is how you respond to the
- 33:44Speaker 5: situations that Leyla just brought up. How do you respond
- 33:47Speaker 5: to failure? Because no matter what field you're going to
- 33:51Speaker 5: go into, you're gonna have days where you show up
- 33:53Speaker 5: and the tech isn't working right JD.
- 33:55Speaker 4: You're gonna have days where you.
- 33:57Speaker 5: Show up that never happens, but you know you might
- 34:02Speaker 5: get laid off in your future. You know, the job
- 34:05Speaker 5: that you go into the field that you might go
- 34:08Speaker 5: into when the world changes all of a sudden, might
- 34:10Speaker 5: not be a real job anymore.
- 34:12Speaker 4: Right, So you've got to be able to pivot and go.
- 34:15Speaker 5: In the best direction and say, you know, this terrible
- 34:17Speaker 5: thing that happened, like getting blown up in Iraq. He says,
- 34:21Speaker 5: that's the best thing that ever happened to him. So
- 34:23Speaker 5: if you're able to take that perspective on those difficult
- 34:26Speaker 5: situations in life and say, Okay, bring it on, I'll
- 34:29Speaker 5: try something new. This is what's meant for me, and
- 34:32Speaker 5: you're gonna be a whole lot better off in life
- 34:34Speaker 5: than somebody who's like, I.
- 34:36Speaker 4: Know exactly what I'm gonna do, and if that doesn't work,
- 34:38Speaker 4: then I don't know what I'm gonna do at all. Yeah,
- 34:40Speaker 4: I'm gonna panic.
- 34:41Speaker 5: So being able to have that flexibility and adaptability I
- 34:45Speaker 5: think is super important.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Yeah, mister Carter, is that what you push?
- 34:50Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 34:51Speaker 8: You know, Laila has always been a super motivated student.
- 34:54Speaker 8: So's she's made my job easy. I'll go on record
- 34:58Speaker 8: and sade, you probably got into that program because of
- 35:00Speaker 8: my letter of recommendation.
- 35:02Speaker 4: We'll leave it at that.
- 35:05Speaker 8: Uh No, I mean she did all the work and
- 35:07Speaker 8: she deserves all the credit and success as she's attained.
- 35:10Speaker 8: But yeah, I'm so proud of her because, yeah, she
- 35:12Speaker 8: was in my office super upset when she didn't get in,
- 35:14Speaker 8: but I reassured her it's gonna be okay.
- 35:16Speaker 4: And this is part of life.
- 35:18Speaker 8: Life is literally a roller coaster ups and downs, and
- 35:21Speaker 8: she had it down and she persevered, she got through
- 35:23Speaker 8: it and she's in a good place now. So that's
- 35:26Speaker 8: the mindset I kind of take with all these kids
- 35:28Speaker 8: because that that is life. Life is not easy.
- 35:32Speaker 4: Yeah for the uh, for this school community, JB.
- 35:37Speaker 5: And you're you're gonna have to shrink your head down
- 35:40Speaker 5: after these two cos.
- 35:42Speaker 4: I apologize, but you.
- 35:43Speaker 5: Know, I just spoke uh game planning for this prank
- 35:47Speaker 5: while Laila was in whatever clash she was.
- 35:50Speaker 4: I just sat down. They have a little senior lounge area.
- 35:53Speaker 5: And I sat down with a eclectic mix of students
- 35:56Speaker 5: that was sitting on this couch and I'm telling them that, hey,
- 36:00Speaker 5: we're gonna prank this JD guy on this radio show.
- 36:02Speaker 5: I'm bringing a student on. And they're like, who you having.
- 36:06Speaker 9: On with you?
- 36:06Speaker 4: And I'm like Layla, and they're like, oh, that's perfect.
- 36:09Speaker 4: No one would ever expect Layla to break anybody. She's
- 36:12Speaker 4: so nice, she's.
- 36:13Speaker 2: So well nobody would you would expect Layla. Look at
- 36:18Speaker 2: what a pretty girl. She's not going around picking up
- 36:20Speaker 2: dog poop.
- 36:29Speaker 5: But uh, you know, I do think that the New
- 36:33Speaker 5: Vision's program is awesome. I've met a lot of awesome
- 36:35Speaker 5: students that have gone to this program, but you know,
- 36:38Speaker 5: a little bit selfishly for the through school community. Having
- 36:41Speaker 5: Laila here for a full day is a pretty awesome
- 36:43Speaker 5: thing because she definitely benefits not just herself but all
- 36:47Speaker 5: the people around her in her school.
- 36:49Speaker 2: Yeah, Leilee, you carry yourself very very well. I want
- 36:54Speaker 2: to ask Pat here In. I don't know, maybe he
- 36:58Speaker 2: was expecting this. Maybe not Pat, What are you going
- 37:01Speaker 2: to become a dad?
- 37:04Speaker 4: Wouldn't it be weird? Is if he didn't know?
- 37:08Speaker 5: Jad? I could tell you more stories of the disaster
- 37:13Speaker 5: of times where I run into this issue with students,
- 37:16Speaker 5: because I've been asking students, Hey, what should I name her?
- 37:20Speaker 4: And you asked second graders that.
- 37:21Speaker 5: And I come up with one kid told me Chipotle,
- 37:23Speaker 5: which is really awesome.
- 37:25Speaker 2: But wow, I had a.
- 37:28Speaker 5: First grade group in Salem, New York, and I'm like,
- 37:32Speaker 5: so I didn't tell you guys this, But I'm having
- 37:35Speaker 5: a baby in April. And this girl goes, but you're
- 37:38Speaker 5: a boy, and I'm like, correct, my wife.
- 37:42Speaker 4: Is having in April. So April twenty third is the
- 37:47Speaker 4: do date.
- 37:48Speaker 5: Now that doesn't mean that it's gonna come out on
- 37:50Speaker 5: April twenty third, obviously, but yeah, anytime soon.
- 37:56Speaker 2: What is it that you are like? And I think
- 38:01Speaker 2: I said this to your dad. I know I've said
- 38:03Speaker 2: this to Tom. Man, this kid is is going to
- 38:09Speaker 2: be lucky to have you as a dad. You have,
- 38:15Speaker 2: you have learned, You've got some some real tools in
- 38:19Speaker 2: your pocket. Man, You've learned an awful lot from sweethearts
- 38:22Speaker 2: and heroes on how to trudge forward. But what what
- 38:28Speaker 2: is one of the big takeaway items for you saying
- 38:34Speaker 2: I'm going to become a dad and at some point
- 38:39Speaker 2: my my little girl is going to be going through
- 38:44Speaker 2: you know, second third grade. We're going to be learning
- 38:47Speaker 2: about differences and sharing and arguing and maybe even transitioning
- 38:57Speaker 2: into some bullying. And it's definitely get what what's like?
- 39:01Speaker 2: What's what are some of the big things where you're like, man,
- 39:05Speaker 2: I'm locked and loaded. I'm ready for this.
- 39:08Speaker 4: Hm, let's let's not record this part.
- 39:17Speaker 5: No, I uh, Outside of Sweethearts and Heroes, you know,
- 39:23Speaker 5: I've benefited from growing up in a in an awesome
- 39:26Speaker 5: community around some awesome people. The people that I've met
- 39:30Speaker 5: through doing Sweethearts and Heroes, the awesome teachers that are parents,
- 39:34Speaker 5: and some of the awesome young people. I think some
- 39:36Speaker 5: of the pressure is taken off when you meet that
- 39:38Speaker 5: young person that is absolutely amazing and you realize their
- 39:42Speaker 5: dad's been in prison their entire life, and I.
- 39:45Speaker 4: Go, Okay, well, hope, I don't go there. Let's check
- 39:48Speaker 4: that off on the list, right like. Let and you
- 39:51Speaker 4: know not that I'm not saying the bar is low.
- 39:54Speaker 5: I do want to do an awesome job and raising
- 39:56Speaker 5: my child, but I've met some really amazing young people
- 39:59Speaker 5: that have come f some difficult backgrounds and Jade, To
- 40:03Speaker 5: be honest with you, I do the same strategy that
- 40:05Speaker 5: I've been using for the last eight years of my life,
- 40:08Speaker 5: which is circle. I have asked different grade levels across
- 40:12Speaker 5: the board for the last several months. First question, Yeah,
- 40:16Speaker 5: I asked, hey, what should I name her? And you
- 40:18Speaker 5: get some fun ones, you let kids make some jokes,
- 40:20Speaker 5: you get some serious ones.
- 40:22Speaker 9: But then I'll go. You know, the part that I'm
- 40:23Speaker 9: really nervous about. I don't know what my rules are
- 40:27Speaker 9: gonna be at what rules should I have? And you know,
- 40:31Speaker 9: in second grade you might get some things like always
- 40:34Speaker 9: be nice and you know, no swearing. And when you
- 40:37Speaker 9: get the kid that's like, don't climb the fence in
- 40:39Speaker 9: the backyard, and like you climb the fence in the backyard,
- 40:41Speaker 9: and didn't you, buddy.
- 40:43Speaker 4: But when it comes to.
- 40:45Speaker 5: High schoolers, I've gotten some unbelievable, unbelievable advice. You know,
- 40:51Speaker 5: high schoolers that look at me and go, dude, don't
- 40:53Speaker 5: give her a phone until this time. High schoolers that
- 40:56Speaker 5: look at me that are like one kid goes, you're
- 40:58Speaker 5: having a girl rip the door off its hinges, and
- 41:02Speaker 5: then the next girl's like, no, don't do that. Give
- 41:04Speaker 5: her privacy. But each input from different people. We always
- 41:10Speaker 5: say about circle and human beings play with ideas together,
- 41:13Speaker 5: the group intelligence goes up as a whole. And every
- 41:17Speaker 5: circle that I've sat in, I've become a little bit
- 41:20Speaker 5: more prepared because I've learned some really great things.
- 41:23Speaker 4: Now I'm not able to do circles with one year
- 41:26Speaker 4: olds or two year olds or three year olds or.
- 41:28Speaker 5: Even four year olds, so those are the ages that
- 41:32Speaker 5: I'm most worried about. But once she gets to five,
- 41:34Speaker 5: I have a lot of practice. So yeah, super excited
- 41:39Speaker 5: to be a dad. I'll blabber your ear off about her.
- 41:44Speaker 5: She's not even born yet and I'm already glaborating the
- 41:46Speaker 5: kids about her.
- 41:47Speaker 4: So yeah, very exciting stuff.
- 41:50Speaker 2: Tell me about the diaper that you bring along and
- 41:54Speaker 2: how that whole thing might change.
- 41:58Speaker 5: Now, So that's my buddy, Joe.
- 42:06Speaker 4: Joe, that's Joe, one of the And this is an interesting.
- 42:10Speaker 5: I've never shown you this before, JD, because I didn't
- 42:13Speaker 5: bring it in last time.
- 42:16Speaker 4: Here's mine with all my fun little bracelets on here.
- 42:19Speaker 4: And when I brought.
- 42:21Speaker 5: Joe to a couple of different schools, the very first
- 42:23Speaker 5: thing I did was I found out his favorite superhero
- 42:26Speaker 5: and he said iron Man. And I had an old
- 42:28Speaker 5: iron Man in mine, so I gave him iron Man.
- 42:30Speaker 4: I said, okay, Joe, that's your superhero. And then no,
- 42:33Speaker 4: we all got our superheroes.
- 42:34Speaker 5: We got Spider Man, I got who Mowana is a
- 42:37Speaker 5: really great superhero. We got even you know sid from
- 42:41Speaker 5: Toy Story. What an amazing one. Wow, I got this dude,
- 42:46Speaker 5: fourth grader looks at me. I go, who's the least
- 42:49Speaker 5: evil movie villain sid from toy story, I'm like the
- 42:54Speaker 5: evil kid that tries to blow up buzz and Woody.
- 42:56Speaker 4: He goes, he doesn't know they're a lot. That's a
- 43:02Speaker 4: wise thing from a fourth grader. So I had to
- 43:04Speaker 4: add that to my collection.
- 43:06Speaker 5: But when we brought Joe on board and I said, hey,
- 43:10Speaker 5: look I have Iron Man in here. Tom's got Spider
- 43:13Speaker 5: Man and a couple of the other things. I got
- 43:15Speaker 5: all these bracelets that I've been given from students that
- 43:18Speaker 5: I'll use to set up circle. Don't try and copy us. Dude, yeah, yourself,
- 43:24Speaker 5: And I go, what about you? Are you going to
- 43:26Speaker 5: put in there? A lot of the stuff that you're
- 43:28Speaker 5: going to have in there eventually is going to be
- 43:30Speaker 5: built from the students that you meet and the stories
- 43:32Speaker 5: that you.
- 43:32Speaker 4: Hear, but you should have a little bit of you.
- 43:35Speaker 5: So the next day Joe shows up and he's got
- 43:39Speaker 5: diapers with him, and I'm like, okay.
- 43:43Speaker 4: He's like, dude, I got these for days.
- 43:44Speaker 5: I can use these NonStop, And over time it formed
- 43:47Speaker 5: into now he's got diapers with pop squshes on the
- 43:50Speaker 5: inside of it. Which is even better because when you
- 43:52Speaker 5: unwrap them there's poop on the inside. But yeah, Joe
- 43:56Speaker 5: is Joe's awesome at facilitating circles and he's a great
- 44:00Speaker 5: member of our Sweethearts and Heroes team that's been on
- 44:03Speaker 5: board for a couple of years and super proud of
- 44:05Speaker 5: him as well.
- 44:05Speaker 2: Well, maybe you can get him a real one.
- 44:09Speaker 4: A real pop. Yeah, yuh club, We'll go to the president.
- 44:12Speaker 2: Go to the president. You guys are what you do
- 44:19Speaker 2: in the in the schools man, all of you is
- 44:22Speaker 2: just so amazing. Loudon and Josiah and Brian and yourself. Pat,
- 44:29Speaker 2: It's it's just this is not the Tom and Rick
- 44:32Speaker 2: Show anymore.
- 44:36Speaker 5: Thank good, No, no, uh yeah they they've been on
- 44:41Speaker 5: the road for a really really really long time.
- 44:44Speaker 4: And you know, I was at a school yesterday where
- 44:47Speaker 4: I hadn't been yet. They had presented a couple of
- 44:49Speaker 4: weeks ago.
- 44:49Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, you met my two old bald friends
- 44:51Speaker 5: with one was in the UFC, was kicking and punching people.
- 44:54Speaker 5: The other guy got blown up and kids are looking
- 44:56Speaker 5: at you like but to me, yes, you can joke
- 45:00Speaker 5: around and pick on your friends a little bit.
- 45:02Speaker 4: But when I say old bald friends. I learned that
- 45:05Speaker 4: teasing from that.
- 45:06Speaker 5: They've teased each other for years, and I think that
- 45:08Speaker 5: teasing one another is a good sign that a community
- 45:11Speaker 5: is really close and we tease each other relentlessly, which
- 45:15Speaker 5: is why I felt that it was important to prank
- 45:18Speaker 5: our friend j D. Because you've been helping us out
- 45:21Speaker 5: a lot by having us on the air, and we
- 45:23Speaker 5: appreciate you a whole lot, so I wanted to make
- 45:25Speaker 5: sure that we played a little Sweethearts and Heroes joke
- 45:28Speaker 5: on you today.
- 45:29Speaker 2: Well, you guys did it one hundred percent. You did
- 45:31Speaker 2: an outstanding job being April full stay. I was gonna
- 45:35Speaker 2: ask I was gonna ask mister Carter this, but I
- 45:39Speaker 2: think i'd rather ask Leila. What in a usually when
- 45:45Speaker 2: I have Sweethearts and Heroes on? I kind of close
- 45:49Speaker 2: out with this question. And we just got a comment here,
- 45:53Speaker 2: how can we get them into a school here in
- 45:57Speaker 2: Central Fromont. What do you say, Laila, to any school,
- 46:06Speaker 2: whether it's a superintendent, whether it's a principal, any administrator,
- 46:10Speaker 2: or even a parent that is not familiar with Sweethearts
- 46:16Speaker 2: and Heroes, what's the way that they can learn more
- 46:25Speaker 2: and what's the way that the administration can can maybe
- 46:30Speaker 2: go to the next powers that be and say, look,
- 46:35Speaker 2: at least get on this website. We need to get
- 46:37Speaker 2: them into our school.
- 46:41Speaker 7: I don't know, that's kind of a tough question, because
- 46:43Speaker 7: you know, I like learned about Sweethearts and Heroes through
- 46:47Speaker 7: when I was like I was little, I was probably
- 46:50Speaker 7: a like middle school, and we had the presentation, and
- 46:55Speaker 7: that really just like I think the presentation that the
- 46:58Speaker 7: whole Sweeter Heart Year's team gives is so like captivating
- 47:03Speaker 7: to like school kids that they're just like interested after
- 47:07Speaker 7: and being able to like go ask you questions, Like
- 47:10Speaker 7: I remember when the assembly happened, like go with my
- 47:12Speaker 7: friends were like, oh, I have some questions for them,
- 47:15Speaker 7: and mister Barry was like go ahead and go ask them,
- 47:17Speaker 7: and you guys were just like so open to like questions.
- 47:20Speaker 7: So like, probably the ad the administration should probably just
- 47:27Speaker 7: you know, try and reach out to people and maybe
- 47:31Speaker 7: like bring it out to the school. Maybe have like
- 47:34Speaker 7: an assembly or get all the kids together, have an
- 47:37Speaker 7: announcement or something saying if you're interested in something like
- 47:40Speaker 7: this or interested in the Sweethearts and Heroes, maybe have
- 47:42Speaker 7: like a tenth.
- 47:43Speaker 6: Period or like a little meeting.
- 47:46Speaker 7: And have people like meet somewhere and talk about it
- 47:49Speaker 7: and reach out to sweethearts and heroes and get them
- 47:51Speaker 7: out there, because I know you guys travel all over.
- 47:53Speaker 2: So mister Carter, what do you say?
- 47:58Speaker 4: It's all about the buying from the top down.
- 48:00Speaker 8: And we are fortunate to hear that our superintendent and
- 48:03Speaker 8: Ali our administrators really believe in this program because it does,
- 48:07Speaker 8: it spreads.
- 48:08Speaker 4: This was not a quick process.
- 48:10Speaker 8: I remember doing a lot of circles in the beginning
- 48:12Speaker 8: with a lot of the teachers here, and some of
- 48:15Speaker 8: them definitely didn't have buy into this.
- 48:17Speaker 4: It's it's really hard.
- 48:19Speaker 8: I think for some people to be vulnerable and open
- 48:21Speaker 8: up and talk about problems, specifically men. And you know,
- 48:26Speaker 8: I think about the classes I've had the last few years.
- 48:29Speaker 8: The amount of males that I've now joined my classes
- 48:32Speaker 8: has gone up exponentially.
- 48:34Speaker 4: Where I remember my first year, I think I had
- 48:35Speaker 4: one in there.
- 48:36Speaker 8: Because the reality is society kind of puts it out
- 48:39Speaker 8: there that women can be emotional and talk about the problems,
- 48:43Speaker 8: but guys got to be tough and hold in their emotions,
- 48:45Speaker 8: and you know, we're trying to break that stereotype.
- 48:48Speaker 4: And I think we're slowly doing that.
- 48:50Speaker 8: So you know that person who messaged in asking how
- 48:52Speaker 8: do we get this in our school? It's it's got
- 48:55Speaker 8: to be a top down approach where the administration and
- 48:57Speaker 8: superintendent and school board all buy into this.
- 49:00Speaker 4: And again we're fortunate that we have that here.
- 49:04Speaker 2: Mister Fish, take it away.
- 49:13Speaker 5: Look, any schools that are interested. I said this this week.
- 49:19Speaker 5: I've said it to many administrators. The way to get
- 49:24Speaker 5: this growing in your school community. Yes it might start
- 49:26Speaker 5: with a presentation, Yes it might start with a circle visit,
- 49:30Speaker 5: whatever it begins with. But the way to do it, well,
- 49:33Speaker 5: it is top down. It can't be forced either. And
- 49:37Speaker 5: a lot of the teachers that you might not necessarily
- 49:40Speaker 5: have loved circle in the beginning, they weren't forced to
- 49:43Speaker 5: regularly sit in circle here. What happened was other classes
- 49:48Speaker 5: that wanted to do circles did circles. Other teachers counselors
- 49:52Speaker 5: that wanted to be involved with this got involved with this,
- 49:54Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden you start to get
- 49:56Speaker 5: the oh, what's going on here that's interesting, and then
- 50:00Speaker 5: they get to go in out of their own interests
- 50:03Speaker 5: versus being forced to do something. So while it is
- 50:06Speaker 5: a slow process. I think it's a worthy one because
- 50:09Speaker 5: you know, the young people of today are who's going
- 50:13Speaker 5: to be there for each other at the end of
- 50:14Speaker 5: the day.
- 50:15Speaker 4: So we got to train them with the right skills
- 50:17Speaker 4: to do that, right skills.
- 50:19Speaker 5: To turn them into Laylah who can you know, be
- 50:23Speaker 5: a not only a good example, but somebody who reaches
- 50:26Speaker 5: out to those people who don't know what they're going
- 50:28Speaker 5: to do in the future and really don't know what's
- 50:30Speaker 5: going on with their life and say, hey, it's all good.
- 50:33Speaker 4: We're here for each other.
- 50:34Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, that's it man. I mean that's
- 50:37Speaker 2: the bottom line. We're all here for each other, and
- 50:40Speaker 2: we all bring something unique to the table with our
- 50:43Speaker 2: life experience and we've got to learn from it. We've
- 50:48Speaker 2: got to share, we've got to be allow ourselves to
- 50:51Speaker 2: be vulnerable and just communicate with each other. I mean,
- 50:55Speaker 2: COVID didn't do us any favors, but you guys are
- 51:00Speaker 2: you know, if there's any kind of barriers that have
- 51:02Speaker 2: been put in front of us, you guys are destroying
- 51:06Speaker 2: those barriers. Pat You're just uh, you're doing an outstanding job, man,
- 51:10Speaker 2: you really are.
- 51:13Speaker 4: Thank you. JD appreciate you. Man.
- 51:15Speaker 2: Listen I want to close out this morning by saying
- 51:18Speaker 2: it's it's not often that I'm that I'm I'm jealous, bro,
- 51:23Speaker 2: I'm jealous of you. Man. You've got the uh you
- 51:27Speaker 2: got the retro free Hugs shirt. I don't have one
- 51:31Speaker 2: of those. How did did you have to spend a
- 51:35Speaker 2: lot of money to have that custom made? How did
- 51:37Speaker 2: you get that?
- 51:38Speaker 4: So I got this year, you know, and I I
- 51:42Speaker 4: love Tom. Tom's awesome.
- 51:44Speaker 5: Tom like four years ago printed a free hug shirt
- 51:48Speaker 5: for me that had the wrong website on the back,
- 51:50Speaker 5: and uh, I said, you know what, I'm gonna start
- 51:53Speaker 5: ordering my own. And so I started ordering my my
- 51:56Speaker 5: own and and I at first I just ordered similar ones,
- 52:01Speaker 5: and then I think it was last year, some students
- 52:04Speaker 5: made the comment of like, hey, you know, you should
- 52:08Speaker 5: do our school color and I was like, yeah, I should.
- 52:12Speaker 5: And then I was like, what if I did a
- 52:13Speaker 5: bunch of different school colors of the schools that I'm
- 52:15Speaker 5: in all the time. So I tried to as much
- 52:18Speaker 5: as possible if I'm showing up to a school, to
- 52:20Speaker 5: really become a part of that school community. And I
- 52:23Speaker 5: think that this is as close as we can get
- 52:25Speaker 5: to that Peru Blue so today I'll be blue, and
- 52:28Speaker 5: tomorrow and Tykonda Rogo I'll have on my purple.
- 52:32Speaker 2: What a story. And the other thing I'm jealous about,
- 52:35Speaker 2: man is is the hair. I mean it's it's so
- 52:38Speaker 2: retro it it goes with the shirt. I mean, you
- 52:41Speaker 2: got you got the locks of love right there.
- 52:44Speaker 4: Brother, all right, we're gonna hang out on you pretty good.
- 52:47Speaker 4: And Gilby, thank you, buddy, that I am Dad. You
- 52:50Speaker 4: look at the same guys.
- 52:52Speaker 2: Check be well, guys, thanks for the laughs, thanks for
- 52:58Speaker 2: the fun, Thanks for or the yuck club prank on
- 53:03Speaker 2: April April fools. I should have seen it coming, especially
- 53:07Speaker 2: with you Pat, and I didn't. I was distracted by
- 53:11Speaker 2: a few things this morning, which which set you up.
- 53:17Speaker 4: Perfectly.
- 53:19Speaker 2: Stay well, guys, God bless you, and thanks for everything
- 53:22Speaker 2: that you do. Hope to get up there to Peru
- 53:25Speaker 2: Central School at some point again, it would be fantastic.
- 53:30Speaker 2: Thanks guys so much. Yeah, yeah, wonderful people. It's what
- 53:34Speaker 2: it's all about, right there. Listen, take good care of
- 53:38Speaker 2: one another today. Reach out to a friend, a neighbor,
- 53:42Speaker 2: double check on and make sure they're they're good, They're okay,
- 53:46Speaker 2: all right? After you pull that April Fool's Joe Cotum. Tomorrow,
- 53:56Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting here on aired Out. Old
- 54:01Speaker 2: Chucky is going to be coming in here. Yes, we're
- 54:05Speaker 2: gonna have a laugh, but we're also gonna get serious.
- 54:14Speaker 2: It is very much unscripted tomorrow here on aired Out.
- 54:24Speaker 2: G's gonna set this place on fire on Friday, and
- 54:27Speaker 2: then on Monday. You ready for this. A guy by
- 54:33Speaker 2: the name of Josh Foster is going to be my
- 54:39Speaker 2: guest on Monday. His family and he and I have
- 54:43Speaker 2: been chatting. His family owned the Dugout Restaurant for a
- 54:53Speaker 2: long time, from nineteen eighty one up until somewhere in
- 54:59Speaker 2: the nineties early nineties. I think fond memories as a
- 55:06Speaker 2: kid growing up at the Dugout Restaurant with his parents.
- 55:13Speaker 2: He's going to come in here and we're going to
- 55:15Speaker 2: have a rather candid conversation not only about what a
- 55:22Speaker 2: great restaurant it was, what a fantastic staple it was
- 55:26Speaker 2: here in our community, but we're also going to talk
- 55:30Speaker 2: about the here and now, and I'm going to get
- 55:34Speaker 2: his very much unfiltered take, a lot of which I
- 55:41Speaker 2: purposely have not asked him over the phone. In our
- 55:46Speaker 2: conversations because I'm waiting for a live microphone to hear
- 55:51Speaker 2: what he has to say. But I'm going to throw
- 55:53Speaker 2: some zingers at him and you're going to hear and
- 55:57Speaker 2: see his reaction to that. As it is what we uh,
- 56:05Speaker 2: what we can all or most of us come together
- 56:11Speaker 2: on and agree about. We'll see what happens. It's going
- 56:14Speaker 2: to be interesting. Stay well everyone, God bless catch you
- 56:18Speaker 2: tomorrow morning, Chucky right here on the aired Owl podcast