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I Am All In…Again: Don’t Cut and Run (Season 3 E14 “Swan Song”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do.
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  Speaker 1: H. I am all in again with Scott Patterson and
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  Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in
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  Speaker 1: Podcasts one eleven productions. iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast. We are
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  Speaker 1: gonna recap swan song. It's season three, episode fourteen with
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  Speaker 1: choun Celia Party. Let me tell you a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about him. He's an actor best known for playing Michael
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  Speaker 1: Squintz Palladoros in the ninety three film The Sandlot, which
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  Speaker 1: was a pretty big film. He began acting as a
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  Speaker 1: child and appeared in several popular TV shows, including Gilmore Girls,
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  Speaker 1: Boy Meets World, and Geeks and Er Johnson. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: You got it? Uh, what do you think of the episode?
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  Speaker 2: It's a fun one. You know, the show is a
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  Speaker 2: it's such a beloved fan favorite. You know. I was
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  Speaker 2: fortunate in my career to do a lot of like
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  Speaker 2: smaller roles and things that kind of built the cult following.
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  Speaker 2: And Gilmore Girls is right up there. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: guys had a crazy run and people that love this
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  Speaker 2: show just really love it, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, they really do. It's a it's a very very
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  Speaker 1: dedicated involved fan base for sure. All right, let's let
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  Speaker 1: me synopsize this episode. Rory tries to integrate Jess More
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  Speaker 1: into her life by having him join her for Friday
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  Speaker 1: night dinner, and when he shows up with a black eye,
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  Speaker 1: she assumes it was from Dean, but really it was
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  Speaker 1: from another unpredictable source. Uh. Laura like gets worried about
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  Speaker 1: the pace of Rory's physical relationship with Jess. Directed by
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  Speaker 1: Chris Long, written by Dan Palladino. You know, at the opening,
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  Speaker 1: we see the three Gilmore girls at Friday night dinner
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  Speaker 1: and Rory tells confesses finally, and Emily already knows that
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  Speaker 1: she isn't seeing Dean anymore. So Emily invites Jess over
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  Speaker 1: for Friday night dinner because understandably, she wants to get
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  Speaker 1: to meet him and then judge him what she likes
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  Speaker 1: to do even more than meeting people. She loves to
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  Speaker 1: judge people. And then Rory brings it up to Jess.
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  Speaker 1: She reluctantly, He reluctantly agrees. If you've been following the show,
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  Speaker 1: jahn Cy, what did you think of this dynamic at
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  Speaker 1: the top of this show where where Jess is resistant,
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  Speaker 1: It's like, gosh, I don't really want.
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  Speaker 2: To do that.
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  Speaker 1: Get somebody she has never met me, So gets somebody
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  Speaker 1: that somebody else, and you know, fake her out. And
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  Speaker 1: what difference does it make? What do you think that?
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  Speaker 2: I think that, you know what, the Dean and Jess
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  Speaker 2: situation has always been a very conflicted thing, Rory. She's
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  Speaker 2: a it's almost like getting pulled in two different directions,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I feel like sometimes the heart is a
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  Speaker 2: it's crazy in that manner, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's like Jess is having some problems adjusting to
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  Speaker 1: her friendship with Dean, can't let it go. It constantly
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  Speaker 1: nags at him. His jealousy rears its ugly head a
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  Speaker 1: couple times in this episode, and Rory gets innocently pulled
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  Speaker 1: into Miss Patty's rehearsal for her one woman show by
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  Speaker 1: Miss Patty, not by Dean. But she ends up sitting
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  Speaker 1: next to Dean because you know, why not they're friends.
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  Speaker 1: And then we know that's going to pay dividends down
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  Speaker 1: the line, and it does when Jess shows up at
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  Speaker 1: Friday night dinner with a black eye and Rory just
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  Speaker 1: goes right to the Dean thing, and was it you
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  Speaker 1: got in a fight with Dean? And that was a
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  Speaker 1: little rough. Those scenes were a little rough. Emily was
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  Speaker 1: getting Emily. We're not used to seeing Emily be treated
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  Speaker 1: so dismissively by anybody, really, I mean except Lorelei. But
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  Speaker 1: now there's a lot of SaaS coming at it, even
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  Speaker 1: even at the top of the show with the three girls,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of sas coming at of coming out
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  Speaker 1: of Rory now towards her grandmother, and we haven't really
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  Speaker 1: seen that before. So I guess she's asserting her independence
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  Speaker 1: and growing up a little bit. But the black eye
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  Speaker 1: thing became quite the topic at dinner and led to
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  Speaker 1: just storming out. What did you think of this fight?
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  Speaker 1: Did you think that Rory was pushing him too hard
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  Speaker 1: or that he overreacted and just should have just calm
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  Speaker 1: the situation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I can't say you really blamed him,
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  Speaker 2: but obviously the expectations on the side is is warranted
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  Speaker 2: as well. But you know, you know, he's a kid
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  Speaker 2: with a tough pass that's trying to find his way,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I kind of sympathize with that in
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  Speaker 2: a sense as well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he could have just told her, Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's not that big a deal. A swan, you know,
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  Speaker 1: got me in the eye, beat me. So what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's a big boy, right, he can It's not that embarrassing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's a little bit embarrassing, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: that big a deal. Just tell her, yeah, instead to
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  Speaker 1: have this big fight, which, well, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Easier said than done, you know, in those moments, like
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  Speaker 2: you know, as a man, it's hard to let go
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  Speaker 2: of that pride sometimes, especially when you feel like you're
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  Speaker 2: being challenged in those situations. So I think I can
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  Speaker 2: sympathize on both parties.
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  Speaker 1: At seventeen and then he storms out, he leaves, and
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  Speaker 1: then Emily doesn't really care. She didn't like him in
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  Speaker 1: the first place, doesn't think he's appropriate. Of course, he's
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  Speaker 1: attached to Luke, so how could he be appropriate? And
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  Speaker 1: Luke has a chat with Jess about avoiding Rory, you know,
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  Speaker 1: while they're on the lake looking for the swan, which
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  Speaker 1: is a pretty funny scene, and he wants to give
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  Speaker 1: him a little advice like, hey, you know, stop ignoring her.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she's a good girl. Just doesn't seem to care.
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  Speaker 1: You think he's kind of acting like a punk, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is.
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  Speaker 1: He in a sense sabotaging the relationship.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe self sabotaging just of it's easier to let
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  Speaker 2: it go than to deal with it, you know. I
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  Speaker 2: think we all do that in life sometimes, where it's
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  Speaker 2: out of sight, out of mind, it's easier to take
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  Speaker 2: the stance of you know, defensiveness than to just be
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  Speaker 2: open and honest with what you want. Right. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that's what he actually wants, but I think he's
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  Speaker 2: it's easier for him in his life to walk away
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  Speaker 2: from things than to take them head on. And that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of the struggle with his character throughout the arc
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  Speaker 2: of the story.
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  Speaker 1: Right, he gets overwhelmed very easily.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime he's challenged, you know. Yeah, when you don't
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  Speaker 2: know how to emotionally regulate those situations and be honest
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  Speaker 2: with yourself and with others, you can cut and run,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always that's always an option cut and the
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  Speaker 1: thing people least expect.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Rory's over apologizing for not believing Jess.
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  Speaker 2: I think she just feels, you know, she knows that
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  Speaker 2: he's a very fragile emotionally, and she's obviously women developed
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  Speaker 2: faster than men, and she's more emotionally stable and has
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  Speaker 2: a better coordinate group around her with the women in
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  Speaker 2: her life to be able to express her emotions. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I feel like she's a you know, wants
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  Speaker 2: to express that she's okay being wrong and being apologetic
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  Speaker 2: for it. You know, maybe he doesn't deserve it, but
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  Speaker 2: at least she's she's doing her part of the work
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  Speaker 2: and letting him know that she was out of line.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Now we get into a section where there's, uh,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to explore these awkward run ins. Alex and
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  Speaker 1: Loreley played by Billy Burke, Uh go on a date.
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  Speaker 1: They're kissing at the door. Rory opens the door, she
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  Speaker 1: sees him. It's awkward. Luke recommends New York City walking
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  Speaker 1: toward books for Laurelized trip. And did you find it
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  Speaker 1: odd about Luke's knowledge of lorealized winter wardrobe the way
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  Speaker 1: he just lists all of the colors of the sweaters
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  Speaker 1: and the jackets and the scar I mean, what, what
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  Speaker 1: the heck.
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  Speaker 2: Was that to the detail. He's obviously paying more attention
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  Speaker 2: than we give him credit for.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I guess I thought she was gonna like
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  Speaker 1: come back with a zinger about you know, fashion look,
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  Speaker 1: but shouldn't do it. But anyway, she goes upstairs to
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  Speaker 1: get the Walk in New York City, walking toward book
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  Speaker 1: that Luke recommended, and she walks in on on Jess
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  Speaker 1: and Rory getting hot and heavy on the couch. Another
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  Speaker 1: awkward run in. And now we see that that Lurlai
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  Speaker 1: is is a little freaked out about how her daughter
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  Speaker 1: is growing up, and she's got certain needs and feelings
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  Speaker 1: and she may, you know, want to consummate this relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Jess, and oh boy, is this history repeating itself?
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  Speaker 1: And you know they're eating that the Chinese food and
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  Speaker 1: silence on the couch, not looking at each other. And
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  Speaker 1: then it was a nice moment where Laurai put her
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  Speaker 1: arm around Rory and then Rory puts her arm around
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  Speaker 1: Laura's waist, like very nice. Love those scenes with no dialogue,
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  Speaker 1: let's say so much.
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  Speaker 2: There's not many of them.
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  Speaker 1: There's not, no, not a lot in that show. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, can you tell us and go
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  Speaker 1: back in your memory, Chauncey about being a teenager and
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  Speaker 1: having to go through this, do you remember any similar
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  Speaker 1: situations from your past?
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  Speaker 2: I think I can relate to it more as a
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  Speaker 2: father now than I can as a child. You know,
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  Speaker 2: as a boy, things are a little bit different, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I can be more in jestice position, more
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  Speaker 2: experience in that position of it being awkward for you know,
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  Speaker 2: the mother of another young woman developing and coming into
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  Speaker 2: her own and that dynamic. But as a father, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there are always your babies and to come
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  Speaker 2: to grips with the fact that they are growing up
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  Speaker 2: and that this far off day that is now we
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  Speaker 2: know as inevitable, but we always think is way in
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  Speaker 2: the future from when it actually is. When you get
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  Speaker 2: those moments, I mean, there's so much dynamic as a
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  Speaker 2: human being with your own your own grasp of what
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  Speaker 2: that means for you, what that means for the dynamic
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  Speaker 2: of this relationship, how it's evolving and arcing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's a in the in the moment as a kid,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't seem as big from a parent's perspective, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's such a bigger dynamic because there's so much more,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we have to come to grips with our
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  Speaker 2: own aging and the arc of everything that's going on
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  Speaker 2: in this life and coming to terms with the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they're going to leave the nest, and this is
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  Speaker 2: an inevitable thing, and it's been such a big part
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  Speaker 2: of your life for so long, and you know, the
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  Speaker 2: era of time keeps marching forward regardless of how we
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  Speaker 2: feel about it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Lane Laine in her band. This provided some
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  Speaker 1: pretty pretty good humor here. Everybody's over. Zach and Brian
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  Speaker 1: and then Dave Rigalski are over in the Lorelei's kitchen
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  Speaker 1: having snacks, and lorele I almost spills that Dave and
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  Speaker 1: Lane will only want to play love songs, and Zach
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  Speaker 1: and Brian don't catch it, and then missus Kim and
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  Speaker 1: probably the funniest scene in the whole thing sees Dave,
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  Speaker 1: Zach and Brian in the station wagon loaded up with
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  Speaker 1: the guitars and symbols and drum stands and all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of things, and greets David, greets missus Kim and she
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  Speaker 1: tells him Lane has a crush and she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: prepare Dave so that he isn't shocked. And then Zach
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  Speaker 1: and Brian confront Lane and Dave and I think it's
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  Speaker 1: about them dating, but it's really about him being a
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  Speaker 1: Christian rocker and their feeling that he wasn't embracing it,
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  Speaker 1: or that he was hiding the fact that he was Christian,
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  Speaker 1: and they assure him that it's okay, and Zach you know,
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  Speaker 1: seals it with a fist pump Christian's rock, you know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so good stuff. Now, do you think Layne and Dave
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  Speaker 1: should be upfront to the band about their relationship or
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  Speaker 1: or does it matter?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it matters. It's nobody's business. But also,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in a time, it's a very I think
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  Speaker 2: that it affects the dynamic of the band's relationship together
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  Speaker 2: and that can be a a very weird thing to
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  Speaker 2: navigate around. You know. Yeah, obviously honesty is always the
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  Speaker 2: best policy, but in a lot of terms, the fear
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  Speaker 2: of of the the change of how people react to
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  Speaker 2: that is Ah, I get it, I understand, you know
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  Speaker 2: why people like to keep things quiet in certain scenarios.
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  Speaker 2: You know, at the end of the day, that's basically
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  Speaker 2: a workplace relationship, right and you know, it can be
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  Speaker 2: frowned upon or people can have their feelings about it
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  Speaker 2: anytime energy has entered into that as a you know,
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  Speaker 2: it can be a touchy subject.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's broken up. A lot of the best bands
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  Speaker 1: that we know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, made some good music though, made some absolutely
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  Speaker 2: you know Fleetwood mac is there.
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  Speaker 1: He got.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing like a little love triangle to make some classics.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. All right, So now we're getting down
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  Speaker 1: to Jess talks to Rory as she's leaving dosies and
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  Speaker 1: they make up. All right. He comes out of diner
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  Speaker 1: and they kind of make up. She should trust to
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  Speaker 1: He said, next time I go to your grandmother's, I
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  Speaker 1: won't have a black eye. But then just tells Rory
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  Speaker 1: a lie about the black guy. He was throwing a
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  Speaker 1: football and got hit in the eye. And they make
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  Speaker 1: out and keep thinking about quote unquote it it being
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  Speaker 1: what we know it is, and then Roy goes home
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  Speaker 1: tells her mother it might happen. He's been thinking about
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  Speaker 1: it. It's awkward after the conversation as they eat their Jenni's food,
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  Speaker 1: which we discussed. Now, which story did you believe when
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  Speaker 1: you were watching this? Was it the swan or was
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  Speaker 1: it the football? I mean, did you believe him when
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  Speaker 1: he said the football because you weren't aware yet of
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  Speaker 1: that it was a swan? Did you believe him.
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  Speaker 2: Now he doesn't. He's just it's just not unbelievable. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's always some element of sketch to jests, you know,
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  Speaker 2: being open with himself, let alone, let alone the world.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so you always feel like there's more to
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  Speaker 2: the story with him. He's an onion that is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: peeled back. Hm, you know, one one, one Pio at
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  Speaker 2: a time.
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  Speaker 1: So you were in five episodes. Yeah, tell us about
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  Speaker 1: landing that role of Kyle.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was supposed to be a guest star, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: we came in for the big the big the Kaeger,
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  Speaker 2: the big party. The party was at my house obviously,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, you know they get into the fight there,
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  Speaker 2: justin and and him and uh, it was a great
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  Speaker 2: scene and then fun fun. Shoot. You know, anytime you
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  Speaker 2: get to have a you know, a house party on
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  Speaker 2: the Warner Brothers a lot, it's it's it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: good time. So it was cool. Me and Milo had
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  Speaker 2: history together, we had known each other for a while,
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  Speaker 2: so that was also fun to you know, come into
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  Speaker 2: anytime you're a guest appearing actor on a show, you're
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  Speaker 2: coming into another families world kind of deal, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and there can be ah, it can be awkward sometimes
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  Speaker 2: as an actor, you know, people are accustomed, they're already
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  Speaker 2: in their motion. You're coming in as an outsider getting
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  Speaker 2: accustomed to the rhythm of things. Kilmore Girls is also
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  Speaker 2: a tough It was a tough show in the sense
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  Speaker 2: of the pace of it is very fast. The words.
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  Speaker 2: I come from a film background, and like we said
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  Speaker 2: about there not being a lot of dead time, you
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  Speaker 2: know what it is. It's the words are exactly like
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  Speaker 2: they are on the page, and everybody's lines come one
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  Speaker 2: after another, so there's an adjustment to that. But I was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, happy to be welcomed in. Obviously having a
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  Speaker 2: background with Milos was helpful. You know, I would go
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  Speaker 2: to lunch with them and feel like part of the
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  Speaker 2: gang with them and Alexis, So that was a cool experience.
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  Speaker 2: And then yeah, that episode was great, and they wrote
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  Speaker 2: me into the next into the next episode to kind
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  Speaker 2: of clean up the aftermath of the party. And then
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  Speaker 2: just sporadically we would get calls about being written back
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  Speaker 2: in that people like this character. And you know, I
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  Speaker 2: went off, went off to the Navy, and then I
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  Speaker 2: came back and was there again, you know, roommting with Dean,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, it was funny. The last episode I was
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  Speaker 2: reading through the script, you know, glancing over it like
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  Speaker 2: you do when you're coming back into projects. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're kind of in and out when you're just
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  Speaker 2: a recurring character. And there was a joke about a
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  Speaker 2: one armed man throwaway and I just I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: that was weird, and I totally didn't get the concept
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  Speaker 2: of it. And then my agent called and said, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta go downtown and get fitted for a prosthetic
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  Speaker 2: for Gilmore Girls. And I was like, a prosthetic for what?
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  Speaker 2: And they were like, you didn't read the script. You
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  Speaker 2: lost your arm in war. And I went back and
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  Speaker 2: I said, oh, man, now that one armed man choke up.
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  Speaker 2: Now that makes that makes a little more sense, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, overall, great experience. Obviously a very talented cast,
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  Speaker 2: and people have gone on to great heights after the show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was a it's a fun show.
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  Speaker 1: We have to talk about the sandlot. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: legacy of this film is immeasurable. How did you feel
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  Speaker 1: about and how do you feel about being part of
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  Speaker 1: something like this?
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  Speaker 2: It's a blessing anything that becomes multi generational and touches
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  Speaker 2: people's lives for that's the magic of film is that
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  Speaker 2: you can do a project that may seem good at
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  Speaker 2: the time and you never really know where they end up.
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  Speaker 2: But when they stand the test of time and somehow
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  Speaker 2: stay current and relevant, that's the beauty of film, you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: to be able to share with people for thirty three
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: years now, it is incredible and sam Lot, you know,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: David Mickey Evans wrote and directed it. It was his baby.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: He had come off a radio flyer that he wrote,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: which was you know, I think was one of the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: highest selling scripts. He came out of college and it
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: was his first first writing job and they let him
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: direct it, and two weeks in they pulled the plug
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: on him, put Richard Donner in there, let rich direct
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the film and recast of the whole film, and David
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: said that it's the best thing that ever happened to him, really,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: because he had no idea what he was doing. He
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: was a young kid, obviously a great writer, very talented,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: but he didn't have any background in making a major
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: studio motion picture. And sitting behind you know, Richard and
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: watching him a master of his craft, really really probably
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: made Sandlot what it was because going back into that,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: he watched somebody and was able to soak up so
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: much from a director's chair and what some could call
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a very humbling or you know, that could go either way.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: You could you know, never recover from it, or you
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: could go on to make a classic because of it.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: And I think that David put that energy in the
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: right place and sucked it up and sat there and
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: watched and try to learn as much as he could
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and paid it forward. And the world got Sandlot because
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: of that experience with Radio Fire.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: And you survived the recasting.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I survived the recasting. Yeah. So Sandlot was cast younger
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: actually to begin with, and then they didn't think it worked.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: And then there was kind of a pretty vigorous casting
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: process because I went on like four or five callbacks,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and then we did like a two week period of
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: like screen testing, mixing and matching characters and then going
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: to play baseball in a We were doing like screen
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: test stuff at Sportsman's Lodge all day and then in
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the afternoons we would go play baseball and encino at
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: It's Little League feeld to make sure that we were
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: meshing together or that they thought that we could, you know,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: handle it right. And then we went out to Utah
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: where we shot the film, and I guess the story
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: is that Fox only gave him two weeks and they
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: were nervous right away, and they brought in Kathleen Summers,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the producer, to kind of come on set and make
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: sure that they were going to finish this picture because
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: they didn't know if they were going to let him
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: see it through. So yeah, somewhere in an alternate universe
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: they pull the plug and the world doesn't get that film.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: You know, there was a lot of moving pieces, right. Yeah.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I think the longevity is it's obviously a film that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: was made in the nineties but set in the sixties.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And Tony Richmond was the director of photography, and do
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you remember the old Kodak chromatic film from the sixties.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: There was just this uh this for those that don't know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: or this is uh, you know, before them, there was
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: a certain type of Kodak crank camera that had a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: chromatic look to it. And David had these old stills
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: and he showed Tony Richmond, the director of photography, and
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: he said, I want the film to look like this,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and I thought he did a great job. And I
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: think that the reason it's still watchable because a lot
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: of the nineties. Stuff looks very dated obviously when you
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: look at it now is because of that. It's a
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: period piece with a certain look that, for whatever reason
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: just is continued to stay current and still look visually
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: like it belongs in any in any era, you know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: and a perfect storm of things with the right with
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the right people, and uh yeah, it's a you know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: a pop culture phenomenon, which is, you know, cool to
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: be a part of something, and all of us are
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: all the guys are still alive and we still get
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: to you know, go do signings together and stuff. So
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: it's it's been a lot of fun.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. That's that's really great. You guys do
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: conventions together, especial, Yeah, we do conventions.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: The cool part about sand Loot is since it's sports
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: inspired and it's pop culture, we get to do all
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: types of cool stuff, you know, baseball games, showings, sports signings,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: pop culture signings. You know, it really hits all of
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: the elements of the collectible market. So it's been a
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: it's been a big blessing for us to get to
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: meet up and hang out and and share our you know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: our lives together.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is fun. I get to do that too
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: with some of the Gilmore cast because they do conventions
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: with them too, and I run into them, yeah frequently,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and it is it is a lot of fun to catch.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, as an actor, you you come
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: in and out of projects, and there was a big
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: period of our lives where we didn't see each other
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: for twenty years. You know, all of a sudden, you
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: see each other every weekend or you know, when you're busy,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: and it's cool to get to you know, have some
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: sort of fraternity and get to share each other's lives.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: And as you age, you know, it's hard to keep
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: up with people because we all have our own lives
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: and children and work and things. So it's cool to
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: be able to come together for a shared purpose and
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: it makes sense and get to share that time together.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Well, it certainly has been fun having you on, and
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: please come back and thank you for sharing your thoughts.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: We do appreciate it. And good luck out there, and
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll see you on the convention circuit.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sooner than later.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm out there this year quite a bit.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, right, lucky, ye, lucky, because they're hard
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to get.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you never know, but I feel like the
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: market is alive and well, which is good in this economy,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: and it's good. It's good to meet the fans and
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: share the stories and take the pictures and it's always
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: a group of people and these things that is like,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I find myself in the oddest and the oddest things,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: but it's it's it's really incredible, you know.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I found myself at one convention, like early on
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: when I started doing them about I don't know, nine
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: years ago, that I was sitting in a green room
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: with some of my heroes, you know, and they were
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: just like regular guys and gals. You know. It's like
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: there's Edward James almost and he's saying hello, and there's
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: William Shatner over here, and it's like wait a minute, yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: And uh.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they're they're fun to do and they are
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and the fans love them. Yeah, just the fans have
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: so much fun and they really, uh, you know, they're
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: very they're very celebratory and joyful. And you know, if
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: your energy is flagging at the end of the day,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: because you know, there can be some long days, you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: you always get that, you always get that group of
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: fans that comes in and just injects you with all
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: this joy and energy and fun because they're so there's
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: it's just so happy to be there. All right, Be well,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: my friend, and we'll talk again, hopefully not in not
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: too long a period of time. And that's gonna wrap
• 28:36
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• 28:38
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• 28:43
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• 28:46
  Speaker 1: too in the group. Yeah, and where you lead, we
• 28:51
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