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Ophira Edut - How Astrology Can Reveal YOUR Destiny · Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro

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  Speaker 3: Yeah, great, you know, yeah, you know, and respect.
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  Speaker 4: That's podcast a melting pot of And now here's Jen.
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  Speaker 3: Good afternoon everybody, and welcome to Kats and Pudding.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm Jennifer Delandro. Welcome to the show. And today
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  Speaker 4: we have a wonderful guess a dude. Right, that's your
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  Speaker 4: last name? Yep, fear right.
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  Speaker 3: You have such a beautiful name, like it sounds like
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  Speaker 3: it does sound like an astrology type kind of name.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: And you are an astrologer. You're a famous astrologer.
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  Speaker 2: My twin sister and I astro twins actually make it easier.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, I just remember the name. I love that that's great.
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  Speaker 3: And your and your sister's name Holly Holler beautiful names.
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  Speaker 4: And you and you write for EL magazine. That's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: And how long have you been doing this?
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  Speaker 2: Fifteen years? Well, astrology of twenty five years? Wow? L fifteen?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? What made you get into it?
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  Speaker 3: Did you have like like gone, did you have like visions?
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  Speaker 3: Did you have feelings like what?
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  Speaker 4: Not at all?
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  Speaker 2: I was actually a student at the University of Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: I was nerdy. I almost went to engineering school, and.
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  Speaker 4: I starretty have Korea now for a woman, right? You know,
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  Speaker 4: you did a good dude, did a good pivot.
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  Speaker 2: I did a good pivot. Actually went to art school.
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  Speaker 2: But my college boyfriend, who actually was born exactly two
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  Speaker 2: days after you, to the year r ago, it gave
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  Speaker 2: me my astrology chart as a gift for my twenty
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  Speaker 2: first birthday. And it was this map, this thirty page
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  Speaker 2: booklet that told me all these things about me that
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  Speaker 2: made me think that the CIA had been hanging out
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  Speaker 2: in my house. So I was like, I got to
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  Speaker 2: figure out how you figured this out or this computer did.
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  Speaker 2: I got a little piece of software and started doing
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  Speaker 2: all my friends charts reading what it meant out of
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  Speaker 2: a book and I was like, this bizarrely accurate. Why
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  Speaker 2: doesn't everybody know how to use this? We suffer so
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  Speaker 2: much needlessly. It's like, here's this cosmic code that we
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  Speaker 2: all come with.
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  Speaker 3: And you feel like there was a cosmic code that
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  Speaker 3: you could actually navigate through. Like if I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: go and look it through it and get the get
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  Speaker 3: the credentials to look through, I can navigate throw it absolutely,
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  Speaker 3: figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: You just need your time, date and place of birth,
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  Speaker 2: and then you get a map of the stars and
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  Speaker 2: the planets where they were the day I was born,
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  Speaker 2: the day were born, the exact moment you were born
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  Speaker 2: in really.
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  Speaker 3: Right, no matter just the month, because like when you
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  Speaker 3: get a horrace now down to the minute.
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  Speaker 4: You're getting just a month. Like you, I know, my
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  Speaker 4: my my friend.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't is into astrology, and she actually has a book
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  Speaker 3: that shows the date and how different it is on
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  Speaker 3: the date of your birth and the time. So, so
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  Speaker 3: what do you feel like, is somebody boring a day
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  Speaker 3: or at night a better or worse person?
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  Speaker 2: Is it?
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  Speaker 3: Like that's not for me to say, and it's not
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  Speaker 3: really So you've done enough.
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  Speaker 4: You can be an.
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  Speaker 2: Asshole at any hour of the day.
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  Speaker 4: It's a choice, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly right, yes, uh, and this actually maybe can
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  Speaker 2: help you be less of an asshole or no when
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  Speaker 2: you're being one.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, kind of a mirror up in your face, right, it.
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  Speaker 2: Is, But we need that because human beings are our
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  Speaker 2: own biggest blind spots. It's like, you don't know what
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  Speaker 2: you look like. You're sitting here in this body looking
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  Speaker 2: out at everyone else from the world, and you don't
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  Speaker 2: know what they do.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know how they perceive you, right kind of,
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  Speaker 3: I mean you kind of think how they perceive you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: people have this maybe image of themselves that's not what's
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  Speaker 3: really projecting to other people.
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  Speaker 2: I think we spend a lot of time thinking about
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  Speaker 2: what we think other people are thinking about us.
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  Speaker 3: And social media really made that even more. I think
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  Speaker 3: it made people more of wires.
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  Speaker 2: Totally, right, Do you find that? I think? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean ninety nine percent of what people put out
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  Speaker 3: on social media is a lie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think it's also a response to the
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  Speaker 2: insecurity people feel just being human beings and not knowing,
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  Speaker 2: like feeling out of control over their life. So what
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  Speaker 2: I love about astrology is like it's like, Okay, this
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  Speaker 2: is kind of a rough cut of who you are,
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  Speaker 2: and when you have that knowing, you can make better choices.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm not going to do that or I
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  Speaker 2: am going to do that. So I found it to
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  Speaker 2: be very helpful and.
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  Speaker 3: Do you like so so you get so somebody comes
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  Speaker 3: and see you, you do their chart, you do their
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  Speaker 3: do you help them navigate through this map? Like doude
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  Speaker 3: continue with them throughout? Like what's like would be a timeframe,
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  Speaker 3: so like say I wanted to call you up and say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: can you take me through through my map and can
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  Speaker 3: you stay with me for the next six months and
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  Speaker 3: kind of help me through navigate through the things I
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  Speaker 3: need to navigate through.
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  Speaker 2: I do get asked to do that. So usually if
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  Speaker 2: I'll do a session, I'll talk to the person about
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  Speaker 2: their their map, their chart and because it's really important
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  Speaker 2: to understand, like if you did if you were working
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  Speaker 2: with the patient, you would want them to know your
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  Speaker 2: skin is like this, Oh you're gonna bleed a lot,
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  Speaker 2: or oh this is you know, first you tell them
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  Speaker 2: the facts, but then you start to give them the options.
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  Speaker 2: So i'd first like tell you how your birth chart
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  Speaker 2: makes you wired as a person. And then I might
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  Speaker 2: be like, oh, you want to do this in a
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  Speaker 2: year or in a week or in two weeks. You
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  Speaker 2: want to get married, you want to start dating, you
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  Speaker 2: want to apply for a job, Let's find a good
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  Speaker 2: time when.
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  Speaker 4: And that could actually tell, and that could actually tell.
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  Speaker 3: I could tell you like this is that this this
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  Speaker 3: this month is going to be a change for you.
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  Speaker 4: Don't know what kind of change. I mean, could you
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  Speaker 4: actually I.
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  Speaker 2: Can tell you we're changed.
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  Speaker 4: And I need you to tell me all that I
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  Speaker 4: need to know about this. Yeah, so you're going to
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  Speaker 4: do this for me.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to do that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so excited and you just bare it all. I
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  Speaker 3: don't care whatever, okay I say, I don't care. Just
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  Speaker 3: do it even if it's uncomfortable, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I want.
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  Speaker 3: I want to know that I'm going to be like successful,
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  Speaker 3: more successful than I need to know.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And it's it's not an if thing. It's more
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  Speaker 2: of a how, like anyone can be successful. Yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 2: some people have less motivation and discipline and stamina. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: some people have charts where things just fall in their
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  Speaker 2: laps and they they're a little lazy and.
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  Speaker 3: They don't and they don't pursue it, and then yes
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  Speaker 3: kind of fades away. So they give opportunities and then
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  Speaker 3: they don't, they don't act on it exact. So if
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  Speaker 3: you're a virgo, because I know virgos right where where where,
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  Speaker 3: I know we'resive, obsessive, compulsive, we are perfectionists. I know
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  Speaker 3: that which I am and I'm competitive. That's you, and
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  Speaker 3: I do tell the truth. I am true to a
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  Speaker 3: fault that people get mad at me when I speak
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  Speaker 3: the truth.
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  Speaker 2: So too damn bad.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care. That's right. I'd rather somebody tell me
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  Speaker 4: the truth than than than why on my face?
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  Speaker 2: My uncle says. The difference between a friendly person and
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  Speaker 2: friend is it? A friendly person tells you what you
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  Speaker 2: want to hear, and a friend tells you the truth.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: We don't this. Too many fake friendly people out there,
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  Speaker 2: we don't. We don't need them.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, good good friend will help you, will
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  Speaker 3: help you commit the crime. But I'm really good friend
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  Speaker 3: will help you bury the body.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take it to that next level. Okay, this
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  Speaker 2: is truth.
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  Speaker 4: That's the Italian I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Bringing on, I'll tell all you know, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: bury no bodies all right to talk about your church.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go, I brace myself, let me sit and.
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  Speaker 2: So so let me just look at this is so
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  Speaker 2: this is the man app of you show up on
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  Speaker 2: my wall like art. Yeah, well you should some people do.
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  Speaker 2: Actually does that help?
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  Speaker 3: Does it help like navigate if you put it up
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  Speaker 3: on the let's be carried in your pocket or something like.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not a lucky sure something.
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  Speaker 2: Most people look at this and just think it's like
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  Speaker 2: a piece of you know, hieroglyphics.
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  Speaker 3: It kind of looked like hieroglyphically, but it's kind of
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  Speaker 3: appealing to the eye.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I did a reading for Nicole Richie. It
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  Speaker 2: was also Virgo back in two thousand and three. She said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she said that she had her chart painted in gold
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  Speaker 2: on her that's so you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, and she still has I guess it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was that's twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 3: But did you see that everything on the chart sort
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  Speaker 3: of mapped out for her?
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  Speaker 4: Like have you been like kind of keeping tabs on her?
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  Speaker 2: Kind of? I mean, she's got she was, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: back in her Paris Hilton simple life days and now
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  Speaker 2: she's a mom and all these other dudes like different.
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  Speaker 4: Did you tell her that? When she was said.
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  Speaker 2: No, she was kind of like just it was was
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  Speaker 2: that like the Billboard Music Awards was and the for
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  Speaker 2: the celebrities they were passing through Beyonce, who shares a
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  Speaker 2: birthday with you?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Air does.
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  Speaker 2: And she sat down and like didn't even want to leave.
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  Speaker 2: She actually just started dating jay Z and we you know,
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  Speaker 2: my sister was like, do you want a chart for
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know who? She was like yes, and
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  Speaker 2: she she was actually very nice, very interested in it.
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  Speaker 3: So she's she's you know what, she's a colundrum. I
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  Speaker 3: think she's she puts out that to be a different
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  Speaker 3: type of person, but she's really like a Conserva conservative.
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  Speaker 4: Well, she wants to be a mom, she wants to
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  Speaker 4: be married.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's kind of she's a Virgo too, so
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  Speaker 3: she's too saved. Yes, yes, with two different people. Were
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  Speaker 3: we have different hats? I was two different people. We
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  Speaker 3: wear different hats.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Have you heard about like your sun moon and rising?
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  Speaker 2: People talk about that, So for you, you're a Libra
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  Speaker 2: moon and a Libra rising, and Libra rules beauty and
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  Speaker 2: aesthetics and balance. So Virgo's about all that precision. You
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  Speaker 2: actually have four planets in Virgo, you've got the Sun, Mars, Mercury,
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  Speaker 2: and Pluto, and then also the South node, which is
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  Speaker 2: your past life sign. So you're a Virgo who has
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  Speaker 2: been a Virgo through many lifetimes.
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  Speaker 4: So I've been a Virgo forever exactly. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And the houses of the chart are where the planets fall,
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  Speaker 2: so those are kind of like the where the action
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  Speaker 2: of your life takes place. And a lot of your action,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of action in the eleventh, twelfth, and first houses.
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  Speaker 2: So and so the eleventh house is a house that
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  Speaker 2: rules radio and broadcasting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is I was supposed to this is
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  Speaker 4: supposed to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And also groups, and you have four spats so
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  Speaker 2: like you like you're someone who's naturally inclined to bringing
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  Speaker 2: people together for wellness to talk about ideas of Oh
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  Speaker 2: for sure, you would be really good at that. And
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  Speaker 2: I would guess from the other parts of your chart
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  Speaker 2: that people tell you the secrets a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, they do.
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  Speaker 3: And you keep my patients I love to talk to me,
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  Speaker 3: I feel I think I make them feel comfortable.
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  Speaker 4: They need to.
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  Speaker 2: Outlet to like a therapist next to them.
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  Speaker 4: I should too for double fad but no, but they
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  Speaker 4: need it.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people come to me or or you know,
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  Speaker 3: if they feel they're not feeling good about themselves, or
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  Speaker 3: they had a breakup, or are they just getting over
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  Speaker 3: being sick, and they come in and want to feel better,
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  Speaker 3: and they kind of talk to me, and I feel
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  Speaker 3: like when they tell me, I used to think that
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  Speaker 3: my do what I did was so frivolous.
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  Speaker 4: And and when when people come and tell.
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  Speaker 3: Me, you know what, you made me walk taller and
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  Speaker 3: feel better and and feel like like I'm actually I'm beautiful,
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  Speaker 3: and that that makes me happy when I get that awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you have a chart that's very inclined to giving,
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  Speaker 2: and but it's harder for you to receive. Actually so weird.
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  Speaker 3: I can I get some rep Yeah, like is they're
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  Speaker 3: like like somebody in my future that's going to leave
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  Speaker 3: me like a billion.
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  Speaker 4: Dollars or something, because.
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  Speaker 2: There could be I'm mean, actually, you know you have
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  Speaker 2: you do have like an older if you wanted to
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  Speaker 2: find an old, boring, wealthy dude, you could. I kind of,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know if you would like it.
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  Speaker 3: I probably would like it for a little while maybe,
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  Speaker 3: but I think after a while, get him.
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  Speaker 2: When he's like close to you know, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: you could, you know, And uh.
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  Speaker 4: I love her by the way I love her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, did you ever meet her? I didn't. I
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  Speaker 2: did watch the show and watch her unraveled.
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  Speaker 4: But she was amazing. I thought she was great.
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  Speaker 2: I just liked that she was just she was so herself.
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  Speaker 2: She's Sagittarius like me. So you do have a very
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  Speaker 2: a good lucky chart though for being you're very you
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  Speaker 2: have a very independent chart. So it's like almost like
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  Speaker 2: you don't you kind of don't need someone. So that's
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  Speaker 2: like the tricky part. You just want to have someone
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  Speaker 2: a companion to have fun with and go do like
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  Speaker 2: luxurious respond together.
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  Speaker 3: And I need somebody who wants to look does luxury stuff,
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  Speaker 3: not to go into like Walmart, Like I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: Right, No, we don't need the Walmart. But I bet
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  Speaker 2: you've got a few Walmart dudes, haven't you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I have. I have.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm always like I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 3: always here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they are kind You're getting these frugal, stable
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  Speaker 2: as salt of the earth guys who are like putting
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  Speaker 2: you to sleep without anesthesia. I think that, well, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just say it. Do you have a beach house
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  Speaker 2: because you should?
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  Speaker 4: I do?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good too? Oh good?
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  Speaker 4: Three?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, because I think you're gonna meet the person for
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  Speaker 2: you when you're at the beach. Really, you gotta spend
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  Speaker 2: more time at these houses, all right? Where are they?
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  Speaker 3: I have one in the Hampton's, I have one in
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  Speaker 3: Rockaway Beach, and have one in Flora. Well, I'm a
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  Speaker 3: water person. I'm always by the water. That's where I am.
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  Speaker 2: There's a point in your chart called the no Worth node,
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  Speaker 2: and that's your destiny point. But it's kind of the
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  Speaker 2: It's where like you have to grow and learn new things.
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  Speaker 2: But when you do, you do really well. And that's
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  Speaker 2: in Pisces, which rules the ocean and the water in
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  Speaker 2: the I.
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  Speaker 3: Have been in school for like the last twenty five No,
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  Speaker 3: that's the Virgo. That's just like the obsessive compulsive.
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  Speaker 2: There's a part of you that like, despite all the
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  Speaker 2: homes and businesses you have, like some hostile beleives, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to end up living in a cardboard box on
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  Speaker 2: the street.
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  Speaker 4: You know. That's what I feel like sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: Every well, a lot of things good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm going to beat in cat food like
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  Speaker 4: something exactly. It's true.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny because my people laugh at me, like I
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  Speaker 3: love to bogging with certain things, like certain things.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care. I would just do it. But it's
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  Speaker 4: like for some reason, if I feel.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm saving that ten dollars on something, yeah, just
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  Speaker 3: to get it, just because for the principal, they're like, Jen,
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  Speaker 3: you spend you spend ridiculous money just going to CBS
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  Speaker 3: and your camera. I don't know, it's just like a
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  Speaker 3: thing like I don't know, why make.
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  Speaker 2: Marge purchases and pieces. You're gonna get the best steal
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  Speaker 2: in real estate too, Yes, yeah, you're good. You could
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  Speaker 2: you could haggle a real estate deal, I bet from
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  Speaker 2: your chart.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have. I have been looking in real estate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I have been looking at that absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Is that going to continue? M m all right, so
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  Speaker 4: is that going to be?
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  Speaker 2: Like my I think you should start flipping some beach
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: houses or maybe set up something like a retreat center
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: or something about the beach set or something that could
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: be a later in life thing. But you could retreat
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like so for many lifetimes have been very practical,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: and that's why you're so pragmatic with you know, saving
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: money education. You want the credentials, but be really great
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: for you to have a place where you could bring
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: kind of like more of the spiritual wellness stuff in
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: like maybe the Florida one one of your one of
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: your properties, the one that you don't have yet where
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: people can go get their spa treatments, but also like
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: come and do like a week of juicing or whatever, yoga,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: some crystal there, next.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, something another another another venture.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's something you could actually start looking at
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: right now to like over the next two years. But
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: like now is how I know that is I take
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: your chart and I'm map the sky right now on
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: top of it, because your chart never moves, but the
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: planets moving. So I compare them. Yeah, and I'm like, okay, what.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: I guess we all move the planet right, yeah?
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: We yeah, but this is like this is like your
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: basic instruction manual, like you know, never changes, but the
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: moving planet's changed. I'm looking at here's a planet connecting
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: with another part of your chart, and I go, Okay,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: that's like they're talking right now, so that's going to
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: tell me. So yeah, you're talking about So we have Saddurn,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: which is like where you start maybe a new business venture,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: get something, get more serious you see business I do
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I do. I feel that someone may come along and
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: offer to buy one of your businesses out of blue
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: it because they have like retirement in this like I
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: could just but I don't think I could be a
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: person to think that you're a sit home person. But
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I think you could like turn your business into something
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: that feels like more play than work. Like you've you've
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: taken care of people and you always could. But I
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: feel that you may want to just like have a
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: little more fun and be a little more spontaneous.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: That's what I feel like I need to do. I
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: feel like I need to be more spontaneous.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm happy And I thought that now we're
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: doing my podcast because this I feel were creative now.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I felt like I wasn't being creative for a while.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like stuck in my run with my
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: business that I was a run. I don't want to.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Say that, No, you just weren't doing that. It's an
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: not an or, And this is the house of creativity
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: where you're north noticed. So that's what you're becoming in
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: this life. It's in pisces have you ever done like
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: an art class or painting or anything just for the
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: hell of it.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Actually I did.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I did a h a pottery class one time. But
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: it was like kind of like a disaster. I thought
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: it was going to be like ghosts.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, he didn't show up, didn't show We're not doing
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: this anymore about my money back.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: You know, it's just didn't well Goldberg wasn't there.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: May like, it just didn't work out, not as advertised,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: not as avatars that like, and then got Also nobody died,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: thank god, so that.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Was a good thing.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: We have to find the silver lining in this, don't
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: we I mean for sure, but an older sexy guy
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: could show up at one of your beach houses.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Wow, this is the second time I'm hearing this.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Really, I feel like almost like if you decided to
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: stage one of these reparties. Yes, maybe it's a real
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: estate broker.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Oh god, that's what I need. I need.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Is there is there a property that you want to
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: maybe flip or put on sale right now?
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Or well no, well one of my actually my my
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: my home right now I'm trying to sell.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Oh there you go. So maybe okay, but yeah, well
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I kind of.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Hope not, because if in my neighborhood and I want
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: to try and stay out of it. I want to
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: stop stop getting involved with people that I've grown up with.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Or been around.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So oh for sure.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I've been in like a lot
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: of I've been in some tumultuous relationships.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I bet I've been few addicts those kind of things. Yeah,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: you don't have to tell me.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: But do you see that?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I do see that because you're learning about like, well,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: you love a little. The thing is, you are like
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: the salt of the earth person, but even try to
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: dramatic people, but you have to let yourself be more
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: playful and have more fun and then you won't need
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: the drama on the spice to come from them.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's what I need, the dramas, but just from me.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to have more fun.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah I'm trying. Yeah, I am trying. Yeah, this is
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: fun and I'm having this. This is can we have fun?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I see you like churning up a little bit of
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: your like advice giving side and then like maybe even
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: going and doing like live events or something like like
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: once this podcast takes off, like just not take Yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: it certainly can, and just when it does, like kind
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: of making a name for yourself that's gonna and then
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: going out and like lot, you know, like just like
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: have an audience sitting there that like ask for exactly
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: like you are like the perfect Q and a entertainer,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: like you have to let your silly side out.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I feel like that that's what I lost over the
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: last couple of years because it's just been a very
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: like with running my business, Like I'm at work ten
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: hours a day, and then I felt like I go
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: home and I'm like, I just don't want to do anything.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I don't want to think, I don't want to create.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: And then I kind of.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Felt like I was stunted for a while, like and
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: that's why I felt like I was just stagnant.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: And then you know, I wanted to do this and
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: now I feel like I feel like a live right now, yeah,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: doing that totally Like.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Wow, this is something that's really squawking my yeah, like
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: my my creativity because I felt like that was Listen,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I injectables is creative and I am a creative person
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: because I'm alsome men injectables and I'm awesome. I'm a
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: great I'm great at that. That's my creatives. But it's like,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I know I could do that. Now now I want
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: to do something.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Now you checked it off the bucket.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: I'm glad.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: I'm glad I could do it my hands tied behind
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: my back, you know, totally I could do it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you're going through a phase that only happens
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: every eighty four years, and people's choice.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: I would hope that it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Probably exactly, but it like it only happens every eighty
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: four years that these two planets will come together, and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: it's when like a part of your life that's been
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: very like by the book, suddenly it's kind of mixed
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: up a little bit, and like you want to disrupt
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: it and like be like's do something different.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Do you have to ask a question? Where do you
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: see me living?
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Because I'm because that's kind of like on like the
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: fence right now where I want to go.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I just I really see that there's a property
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: that is no longer going to be in your portfolio.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Soon maybe a hot real estate broker will take it
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: out of your life and come into your life instead.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: But I mean, you really just need to be looking
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: at it water. I feel like when you're looking at water.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: I'm happy.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just calms you down, like you have that virgo
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: nervous energy where you're just like I got to stick
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: a needle in someone's face right now, but you know
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I can.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I have like a tent when I'm home. It's like
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I always have to feel like I'm doing something.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm not wort to organize, like I.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Feel like I like I did something wrong, like I
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: called and I stayed home from school, and I'm like,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get in trouble by the principle that I
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: say home, Like that's the way.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I see the virgo.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Good girl, Well, yes, it may. It's very hard for
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: you to let go. Maybe that you have to really
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: train a couple of people to It's so hard to
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: like trust someone to do it as well as you
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: with what you do, because it really is a problem.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: It is hard to hand them to pass the tunnel.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: It's because and also everybody wants me, that's all the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: course of course, everybody wants me, So it's kind of
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: difficult too. But I mean I'm hoping that my next
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I'm training somebody else too that I think could be
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: the person could kind of delegate a little too, Yeah,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: to delegate more to.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like you could also do something like a retreat,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Like if you could combine your work with like take
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: your most high end celebrity type of clients and like
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: bring them to this magical place that we're setting up
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: in this in our vision here of like on the beach,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: this new center.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: In the Hampton.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Why not have like do something there like summertime big exactly.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Just knock it all out. Then you can relax know
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: that you got it done, and then you can just
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: be flowy in the Hampton's one week on, one week up.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I just got a fun enough hours in the day
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: to do all this. I'm like tired.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you need less. I think less is more.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I think you need to like maybe like sell, like
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I said, sell a couple of the properties or businesses
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: or something, if that makes sense, and then just focus
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: on like the core here so that you get to
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: enjoy all the bounty that you're creating.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's what I think I need to do.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I think you're right. I think I need to kind of.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm now at this point I just
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: want to kind of be free, like I got to
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: taste the freedom right now, and I'm like, oh my god,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: but I love this, Like, yeah, I love that I
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: don't have to be sitting in my office and just
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: be in there all day long because I spend more
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: time in my office than any place out, like than
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: home then you know, any place out. So it's like
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: it's like that's where the bulk of my time is spent.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: And it's like I feel sometimes I feel trapped.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, here's the thing. You're so dutiful with you
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: with your chart, and you like are so empathic with
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the people that you are serving that like you can't
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: be around them. It's like out of sight, out of mind.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Like if you're in the office, you're gonna start working.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: If you're around the people, you're gonna start taking care
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: of that. So you have to. That's what's great about
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: this place is it's like you can just separate yourself
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: and be like, Okay, I don't see them, so I
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: am exactly.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: I'm definitely out of my mind, that's for sure.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I gotta be out exactly, and.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: You see what do I Well, I was thinking about
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: starting another doll try, which is that's the end of
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: my business. In Jersey. I mean, you see that in
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: my in my plan, that's what I wanted to do.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: You could, but I would advise you know differently, maybe
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: have a manager, have maybe you know, what would be
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: your reasoning to do it just because you're a compulsive virgo.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Or I mean, obviously I'm a compulsive burgo. No, I'm
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: thinking about moving to Jersey, like I'm wating to move there.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I kind of want to move closer to my brothers
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and be there and get out of the city.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I'm just I want to.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I want more access to water.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: I think there's one access to room.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do need spacious.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm I'm horsed to fullback where I
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: am right, I keep hitting this microphone.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I feel like.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I feel like where I live now, and it's like
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I and every I feel like I get a ticket
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: every every twenty feet all the time. I'm like, I'm
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: so tipsick of getting tickets just from driving because it's
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: a twenty mile prove of speed limit and it's crazy, or.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Twenty five miles giving you tickets. You know, we get
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: slammed for tickets all the time.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: If you go one mile spreing up.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: But they give you a ticket and I it's literally
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: like paying for a car payment every month. I swear
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: to God, tweet all the pause in my house. Yeah,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: it's crazy. And I'm so I'm just like I don't
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: want it to and I wanted to take forty minutes
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: to get ten miles, like I don't mind driving an
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: hour on open Pokway.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying, saying, so yeah, so I'm
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: to make that move. And I was just curious if
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: you saw that.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: For I think you can absolutely change up your life
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: right now for sure if you want to, I think,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: but you want to make sure your hand, like, don't
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: just walk away. If you could sell the business or
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: sell an office, or sell part of the practice, so
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: bring someone in, like.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: I gotta definitely do. I think I want to do
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: something like that.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I think that's been something that I've been thinking about
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: because I am getting older, you know, I'm not I mean,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not out yet, but I mean I want to
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: kind of slow down a little bit.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to see you get a return on
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: the investment that you put into these businesses. But I
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: think you could. I think you could pare down and
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: go for like a little bit of a less is
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: more and think about the ones that really like you
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: have a really clear vision about what gives you joy.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: So what's not that that's the thing to get rid
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: of or to outsource or to take time away from.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: But I feel like you'll be successful wherever you are,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Like you do have a very successful chart, especially for
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: work and people like this where a lot of your
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: planets are is the house of popularity. So people just
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: naturally like you. Yeah, So it's like no matter where
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: you go, yeah, you are, and no matter where you go,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: you're gonna like quickly make friends and make a name
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: for yourself. So the good news is you get to
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: say and you get to choose, So think about Yeah,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: so start with that, start with where you like to be,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and then just lucky with my you did you did?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Love is love is the work in progress part. But
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: you do love your life so like and you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Took me, it took me a while to love my life, right, Yeah,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: So now I feel like it's getting to the point
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: where I'm just happy exactly.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: And I mean that's what I'm always saying, Like why
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: are people so interested in your love life versus like
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: your love of life.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Right, that's more important than life.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I think people think that they need to be with
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: somebody to just be happy, and.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: You don't think that. Luckily, that's not anywhere in your chart.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: You're very self sufficient.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: So it's like, I mean, I've been, like I said,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I've been in a relationships since I'm twelve years old,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: and now it's like it's like I just feel like.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I think it's just time to be free.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: All it is. It is like you don't need some claustrophobic,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: controlling person telling you what to do, where to be,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: how to spend your money, what choice is to make
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Like you've you know, you've gone through lots of education
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: and you've got you've got all the credentials and business
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: to prove it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Right there.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I think that that scares men too, that I think
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: that I have to find somebody.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Who's either at my level or above my level.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I see if with someone from another country also by
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the water, Yeah, maybe a nice Mediterranean were the next houses. Yeah,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: it could be on a boat, it could be bonaire.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if I see you with a billionaire,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: though truthfully, I see you with someone who is comfortable
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: with you and doesn't need like a sugar mama necessarily,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: but like knows how to help you enjoy life and
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: be a good companion. And don't marry him.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: I'm not married.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: No more marriages for you, No.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm done with that exactly.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: It's like house arrest for you. It's on your terms.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: And it's funny that you use that term, because that's
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: what it was like for a while.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Oh I bet, yeah, I bet.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they're just they're dragging you down.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, husband's I need to I don't think I
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: need to give up.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: I was. I was married once. That was enough. Yes,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I think that was enough for a lifetime.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: You're a free spirit, and you know you got your kids,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: but like you're not an institution person. Maybe an academics institution,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: but that's it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and my kids are great, So I'm lucky that
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: you know that I have them and you know they
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: are good kids, and that's it's amazing.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: It's just time for fun.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: I need to have fun. I want to just that's
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: all I want now. I want to enjoy life.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: You don't know when tomorrow is going to be the end, right,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: we don't know what's going to happen to us, right.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: No, I don't look at that in people's charts.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, today's history tomorrow is a mystery right, live in
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: the present.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: That's why they call it a gift, right whatever, So.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Right, right right, I'm trying to do that.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to stop projecting what's happening to me.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: It's going to happen down the world because'm like you said,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I'm always thinking like the trap door is going to
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: come out from month of mm hmm.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I just know that that's always kind of there, but
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: it's not true. It's from past lives. You actually really
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: have way more than you even.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: My past life because I kind of feel like I
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: was a bike.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I see you more as like a farmer.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Like what kind of farm? Let's do? What kind of farma?
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Like you were maybe like a military strategist, Wow, you
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: know that something with a lot of precision and nurturing
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: and tending. But also like just like could have been
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: like an engineer, just a virgo. It's like you have
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: worked with the land in some way. We want many
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: past lifetimes.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: I mean I like that, I like that military thing.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I could. My kids will tell you I'm probably militant.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: A lot of time with them with their schedules.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: My god, well, you know, as opposed to keeping the
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: room was clean.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: And you know, like mommy DearS, no more hangs Like
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: that's what happened when I went to work.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Because I wasn't home like Michael managing.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Micro managing and disrupting them.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: And when I would stay home, they'd be like, oh
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: my god, might be going back to work.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: You're going back.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: It's true. It is virg all that virgo is a
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: bit o c D and need things to organize, and
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: it's it's a lot to find your.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Hip, Yes it does. It takes me a lot. It
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: takes me a while to find my child. But I
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: think I'm starting to chill out a little bit more.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: So.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I just keep seeing you, like on a balcony looking
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: at just the ocean. Maybe you need to go on
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: a cruise or something.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: You know what I I I love being about my balcony.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I love looking at the ocean.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: That's yeah. Just see like blowing garment, go do that
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: like every day.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna live to that. Today. I'm going to go
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: to the beach today, and I'm gonna go on my
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: balcony and.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: That should nice.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Is it's beautiful out.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It's just a real it's like a total reset for you.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: It is, and it's just a sea air.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Everything is just like yeah, it gets you.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: It's like cleansing and everything else. It's just yeah.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: You spend you spend a lot of time in your thinking, great,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: getting yourself to your creative whether it's like painting or
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: like you know, I.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Mean, I'm gonna maybe maybe psychedelics.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, that's for another show.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: And we can definitely come back and talk about that.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, so, I mean, this was amazing and I
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: so appreciate you coming in and taking time to do this.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I'm actually I want to look at it after because
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: I want to.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Really it don't make no sense to you.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: I don't care, that doesn't need to. It's just gonna
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: be near me and I love it. I'm so happy
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: that you came on the show today. It's such a
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: pleasure meeting you. You have such a great energy, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I hope next time you come back on the show,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: maybe you bring your sister with you.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: A total twin fest. I love that.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you. For having you.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: I want, oh my god, have some out there.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: I'll give you this awesome all right, everybody, have a
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: great day, and please watch us on YouTube, cats and
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: putting you on YouTube, and we're also on Apple Podcasts
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: and Spotify. I want people to stop watching the full videos,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: not just the shorts that
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: The Burgos