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BG Cast | Healing From Society · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: Buildings behind me were the headquarters for the World War
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  Speaker 1: Two Office of Strategic Service.
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  Speaker 2: It was here that the first halting steps toward mind
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  Speaker 2: control began.
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  Speaker 3: So ten years before Stanley Kubrick made The Shining, he
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  Speaker 3: made another film. There's a film about mic and code
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  Speaker 3: called The Clockwork Orn.
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  Speaker 2: The Shining is one movie that has really been put
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  Speaker 2: through the ringer and one thing that people really don't notice,
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't really make a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 3: All during the shoot, Kubrick is rewriting the movie.
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  Speaker 2: What we see here is Stanley Kubrick trying to encode
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  Speaker 2: a secret meaning into The Shining that he doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: anyone to know about him.
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  Speaker 3: Kubrick has several references to Freemasonry in his films.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lady that walks past that has a bloody
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  Speaker 2: handprint on her ass.
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  Speaker 3: The Shining is Kubrick's eleventh film, and there's elevens all
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  Speaker 3: through the film. Eleven is a special number in occult theology.
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  Speaker 2: The Shining has been regarded as one of the greatest
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  Speaker 2: horror films ever made, but is it really a horror film?
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  Speaker 3: The Shining also is loaded with sexual innuendo.
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  Speaker 2: The family is isolated up at the overlook, which is
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  Speaker 2: a perfect opportunity for some sort of CIA experimentation to
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  Speaker 2: go down.
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  Speaker 4: Up there, using mk ultra methods psycheatrically control assassins, literally assassins.
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  Speaker 5: Experimental drugs, including LSD were administered to human guineas. The
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  Speaker 5: patients were never told that their treatment was part of
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  Speaker 5: a CIA experiment.
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  Speaker 6: And there was this story which involves him spiking the
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  Speaker 6: drinks of one of his deputies, this guy Frank Olson,
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  Speaker 6: and he jumped out of a window to his death.
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  Speaker 7: It's a demonic possession, you know. So it makes someone
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  Speaker 7: feel like they don't have any control over this etherical
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  Speaker 7: entity outside themselves, when really it's the people who are
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  Speaker 7: imposing the trauma that need to be held accountable for
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  Speaker 7: the actions.
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  Speaker 2: The students.
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  Speaker 4: We know what happened in the apartment that they had.
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  Speaker 2: There are many clues that point to the fact that
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  Speaker 2: this theory of what the Shining is really about is
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  Speaker 2: the correct theory.
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  Speaker 3: We think that we're watching a horror movie where ghosts
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  Speaker 3: are kind of forcing a man to go off and
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  Speaker 3: kill his family.
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  Speaker 2: But what are we really watching.
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  Speaker 8: Here, Wendy, I'm home.
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  Speaker 2: And welcome back to another raised by a Giant's discussion.
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  Speaker 2: We are live. Welcome everyone in the chat. Good to
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  Speaker 2: see you guys and any channel moderators or channel members
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  Speaker 2: out there. Today. We have a very exciting show for
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  Speaker 2: you guys here this evening with first time guest, a
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  Speaker 2: good friend Stephen from bg Cast. Going to be kicking
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  Speaker 2: at old school here today with Stephen. But a quick
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  Speaker 2: reminder that my documentary Clockwork Shining, which you just saw
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  Speaker 2: the trailer or, will be released at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the month on Amazon Prime Fingers crossed. I really hope
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  Speaker 2: everyone watches it when it gets released. Supporting independent filmmakers
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  Speaker 2: is very important and that's where things are headed, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood is dead, all right. It's independent people that are
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  Speaker 2: self funding their own film And I will keep everyone
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  Speaker 2: updated to exactly win that drops. And I'm really excited
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  Speaker 2: about is one of the best things that I have
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  Speaker 2: ever put together and have ever been a part of.
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  Speaker 2: Really excited for you guys to see it. And if
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  Speaker 2: you guys can also do me a favor please, and
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  Speaker 2: if you could go to Amazon Prime and type in
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  Speaker 2: a Clockwork Shining. You won't see the movie yet because
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  Speaker 2: it's not up. It's been accepted and it's in the
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  Speaker 2: queue to be released. But when you type in the
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  Speaker 2: Clockwork Shining, it will trigger the Amazon algorithms. Everything's about
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  Speaker 2: algorithms these days. That there's a lot of interest in
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  Speaker 2: the film and Amazon will push that out faster, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Just if you could, and if you've got time throughout
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  Speaker 2: the or when the show is over, just go to
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  Speaker 2: Amazon Prime and type in the Clockwork Shining. That's all
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  Speaker 2: you got to put. Just put a Clockwork Shining in there.
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  Speaker 2: The movie isn't there yet, but it will help push
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  Speaker 2: the movie out faster than what is expected, and you
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  Speaker 2: guys will be able to see it faster that way.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you guys very much, really appreciate it. So,
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  Speaker 2: without further ado, we have with us this evening. We've
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  Speaker 2: become pretty good friends over the past year or so.
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  Speaker 2: I've been on his show a few times and now
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  Speaker 2: he's online Steven from bg Cast. It's good to see
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  Speaker 2: my friend. How are things.
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  Speaker 5: Going, Hey, what's going on righter? Thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 5: It's nice to be on your show for a change, man,
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  Speaker 5: this is a cool opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, I was on your show a couple of
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  Speaker 2: times and I was like, Hey, I do we need
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  Speaker 2: to get this guy over here, see what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what's so interesting, Steven is like I
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  Speaker 2: started my show with spirituality, you know, mostly spiritual topics,
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  Speaker 2: but I started getting like labeled a new Age or
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  Speaker 2: something like that. You know, people just lumped me into
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  Speaker 2: this category of New agism, you know. And I even
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  Speaker 2: had guests that wouldn't come on my show because that's
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  Speaker 2: when I pitched them the like in the beginning, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, Hey, this is a show about spirituality. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be talking about spirituality here. And they were like, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not coming on your show, and I'm like, what
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  Speaker 2: do you mean. You know, they were just like kind
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  Speaker 2: of shut me out, you know, because I think that
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  Speaker 2: they might have thought that it was like some kind
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  Speaker 2: of a New Age cult or something. I don't even know,
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  Speaker 2: because you know which the New Age really does seem
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  Speaker 2: like a cult.
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  Speaker 5: I would.
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  Speaker 2: It's really just been replaced with mainstream religion, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what these people cling to. Like, the people that are
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  Speaker 2: disillusioned with mainstream religion, they kind of find a home
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  Speaker 2: in the New Age community, which is just really a
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  Speaker 2: cover like a like a carbon copy of Christianity. It's
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  Speaker 2: vaccillame values are carried over just in a different form
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  Speaker 2: and just tiny bit switched up and the meanings I
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  Speaker 2: have changed to mean something different when the basis in
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  Speaker 2: the foundation is really all the same. But can you
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  Speaker 2: let the audience know what you do in your back
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  Speaker 2: background and what got you into this realm of you know,
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  Speaker 2: doing your show.
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  Speaker 5: Well, man, you know, that's one thing I can completely
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  Speaker 5: completely agree with you on, is there's you know, there's
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  Speaker 5: a connectation when you know, you have people who talk
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  Speaker 5: about certain esoteric concepts and topics and immediately kind of
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  Speaker 5: goes over to the new age label it does. You know,
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of it's kind of funny. I've always joked
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  Speaker 5: I call myself kind of old age, and it's just
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  Speaker 5: what I call myself when it comes to talking about
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  Speaker 5: this stuff, you know. But nonetheless, I actually embarked on
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  Speaker 5: my evolution, we'll call it, in two thousand and eight,
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  Speaker 5: at the young age of twenty years old. It kind
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  Speaker 5: of started in three different, three different ways. The first
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  Speaker 5: way was, you know, kind of what we're going to
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  Speaker 5: be talking about tonight was you know, health and fitness.
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  Speaker 5: That kind of first opened the door for me. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I had struggled with my weight you know, throughout most
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  Speaker 5: of my young adult life, and you know, by the
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  Speaker 5: time I was twenty years old, I decided that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I was going to do something about it, and I
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  Speaker 5: was going to do something about it the right way.
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  Speaker 5: And that kind of led me down a lot of
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  Speaker 5: different interesting doors. And you know, one of the biggest
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  Speaker 5: questions I started asking myself at that time is, so,
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  Speaker 5: let me get this straight. All the organic food and
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  Speaker 5: the healthy food that you're supposed to be eating that's
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  Speaker 5: supposed to be good for you is hella expensive and
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  Speaker 5: barely affordable for the common person. But you look at
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  Speaker 5: all of this cheap food that they say you're not
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  Speaker 5: supposed to be eating, that's chock full of chemicals, dies, preservatives,
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  Speaker 5: everything like that, it's hella cheap and really affordable for everybody.
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  Speaker 5: So that always kind of, uh, you know, made the
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  Speaker 5: light bulb go off from my brain, made me kind
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  Speaker 5: of think, you know, what's going on with this at
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  Speaker 5: the same time too, Like, so you were talking about
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  Speaker 5: religion earlier. I grew up in the middle of the schism.
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  Speaker 5: My mom's side of the family's Roman Catholic, my dad's
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  Speaker 5: side of the family's Greek Orthodox, so I literally grew
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  Speaker 5: up in the middle of the schism. I'm not joking
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  Speaker 5: when I say that. And you know, I always had
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  Speaker 5: a belief that there was some kind of spiritual aspect
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  Speaker 5: to this reality. I always felt that modern religions and
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  Speaker 5: organized religions had wrong, but I did think there was
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  Speaker 5: something there. And that's where I kind of started uncovering
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  Speaker 5: things like Taoism, Buddhism, gnosticism, hermeticism, things like that. You know,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of different spiritual philosophies that kind of take
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  Speaker 5: into account the great in this world. They're not super
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  Speaker 5: black and white. And then it was also funny because
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  Speaker 5: back in two thousand and eight was the the time
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  Speaker 5: of the recession, and you know, young twenty year old me,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, man, you know, like I should learn how
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  Speaker 5: our financial system works, Like I should learn this, you know,
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  Speaker 5: because I'm an adult now, Like I should know this
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  Speaker 5: kind of stuff. You know, So why is it always
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  Speaker 5: so fucked up? And I go ahead and I, you know,
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  Speaker 5: start doing some research, and I find out, well, no,
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  Speaker 5: wonder why it's fucked up. We have no physical assets
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  Speaker 5: backing our currency, and it's just, uh, it's loaned out
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  Speaker 5: to us at a thin air with interest. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that could definitely be it. But that you know, started
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  Speaker 5: the the evolution. Man, I don't like calling it a
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  Speaker 5: path because it does not have a definite ending point.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you will always come back to things you
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  Speaker 5: might have looked at like two three years ago. I
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  Speaker 5: mean you might it might be two three years before
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  Speaker 5: you you come back and look at it again. But
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  Speaker 5: at that time, you know, you have a fresh perspective.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you've grown a little bit, you know, in
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  Speaker 5: the way that you think, in your perspective and your
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  Speaker 5: perception and all of that. So and then, honestly, man,
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  Speaker 5: like you know, the show for Bgcast first came into
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  Speaker 5: being in twenty twenty. It had a very small stint
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  Speaker 5: because you know, that incident was going down and I
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  Speaker 5: had kind of looked at a lot of what I've
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  Speaker 5: talked about for the past twelve years at that point
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  Speaker 5: starting to kind of come into fruition. So that was
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  Speaker 5: kind of a little bit of a fire under my
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  Speaker 5: ass at that point, So I started the show. It
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  Speaker 5: didn't really get anywhere at that point in time, but
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  Speaker 5: then I revamped it back in twenty twenty two. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I one of my first guests ever on the show
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  Speaker 5: was if you guys know Ben Davidson of Suspicious Observers,
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  Speaker 5: He was one of my first guests on the show,
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  Speaker 5: and then got up with Chris and you guys and
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  Speaker 5: that's all she wrote. Man, here, I am doing the
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  Speaker 5: thing and looking to take it to the next level
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  Speaker 5: like you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting that you talk about organic food because
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  Speaker 2: that always hit a little.
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  Speaker 1: Nerve with me.
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  Speaker 2: Like just the fact that in grocery stores that there's
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  Speaker 2: an organic section that you can pick from and buy
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  Speaker 2: tells you everything that you need to know, like what
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  Speaker 2: is the other garbage?
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  Speaker 1: Then?
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  Speaker 2: You know, But that was just a really quick point
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  Speaker 2: that I wanted to make there. What has been your
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  Speaker 2: experience through working with you know? Because in the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: like I said the beg I started my showing in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty as well, it's been going for four years now,
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  Speaker 2: so but what has been your experience with like spiritual
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  Speaker 2: like spiritual people within this spirituality community? Because what I
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  Speaker 2: really realize and why I kind of like shifted gears
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  Speaker 2: from that is because a lot of these people are
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  Speaker 2: just full of shit and they say a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: things and they don't actually practice them. And that's Another
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  Speaker 2: issue is that people they want the shortcut, right, they
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  Speaker 2: want the thing that is going to like a magic
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  Speaker 2: pill or a magic hat that's just going to come
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  Speaker 2: out of nowhere and then automatically change their lives forever.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not the way that anything works. Me and
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  Speaker 2: you have talked before about you know, like breathwork and
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  Speaker 2: like meditation, Like you just can't sit down and lay
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  Speaker 2: down and do a little bit of meditation and expect
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  Speaker 2: your entire life to change us. Not the way that
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  Speaker 2: it works. You know, you have to keep doing it
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  Speaker 2: every single day. And we were talking a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about DMT earlier and you were mentioning how you know
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  Speaker 2: you can unlock natural DMT in your brain, and you
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  Speaker 2: can because I've come really, really close. I think I've
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: unlocked the binzo diazepine, the natural benzodazipine, because that is
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  Speaker 2: also a real thing. When you do it at a
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  Speaker 2: certain time of night and you do the right breathing exercise,
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  Speaker 2: you can literally like completely relax your body like you've
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  Speaker 2: taken a like a benzo Like yeah, it's just natural.
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  Speaker 2: And it took me a really long time to get
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  Speaker 2: to that point. I told you that it took me
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  Speaker 2: three months of doing breath work every single day and
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  Speaker 2: doing meditation every single day. There was no breaks in
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  Speaker 2: between all that to even get to the point to
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  Speaker 2: where I felt like that I could some like I
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  Speaker 2: was on the cusp of getting outside of my body,
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  Speaker 2: getting outside of like the into the astral realm. It
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  Speaker 2: took me that long, and that was the only time
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  Speaker 2: that I had experienced it or even come close. And
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  Speaker 2: a lot of these gurus and a lot of these
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  Speaker 2: these people, they I mean, for the lack of the
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: better word, they want to they want you to pay
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  Speaker 2: them to to have you take a course that you
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  Speaker 2: don't really even learn anything out of, because it's like
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  Speaker 2: the contact the community, like a lot of the people
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  Speaker 2: that are claimed to be in contact with extra trest
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  Speaker 2: trials and ets and channel ets and extra trest trills.
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  Speaker 2: They'll give you a course. I'll take my course for
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  Speaker 2: you know, four hundred and forty four dollars, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: teach you how to do this blah blah blah blahlah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah.
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  Speaker 5: They'll channel the asketar command for you for five hundred bucks.
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  Speaker 2: That also, and I'll put a caveat on that. I
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  Speaker 2: do know one person that I legitimately trust that does
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  Speaker 2: do really good healing work remotely and by channels. I
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  Speaker 2: actually do believe. But that's besides the point a lot
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  Speaker 2: of these people. I've never heard one case of an
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  Speaker 2: individual taking a remote viewing course and being able to
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  Speaker 2: remote view after the course is over. I've never heard
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  Speaker 2: of one person taking an extraterrestrial contact E course and
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  Speaker 2: being contacted by aliens at the end of that course.
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  Speaker 2: It never seems some one take a psychic medium course
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  Speaker 2: and then was able to contact the dead. So what's
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  Speaker 2: going on here?
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  Speaker 5: Well, man, you know, just like you, I have my gripes.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I call them the conscious community, and that's
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  Speaker 5: what I've labeled it as of now, even though I'm
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  Speaker 5: not a huge fan of labels, but for the sake
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  Speaker 5: of it making sense, that's what we're going with at
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  Speaker 5: this point in time. Yes, man, we got a lot
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  Speaker 5: of talk and no walk. That is the number one
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  Speaker 5: thing I can totally agree with you on. I can't
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  Speaker 5: tell you how many spiritual podcasters do you that I
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  Speaker 5: listened to. You know, they'll be talking about the Fourth Way,
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  Speaker 5: They'll be talking about Kundalini awakenings, they'll be talking about
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  Speaker 5: self remembrance things like that, but not a single one
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  Speaker 5: of these people are actually putting it into practice. And
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: that's where I at least try to come along and
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  Speaker 5: I try to change that. But you're absolutely right, man.
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  Speaker 5: You know this, like you were saying with breath work
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  Speaker 5: and we're saying with meditation. I thinking one thing is
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  Speaker 5: a society that we are very tied to is something
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  Speaker 5: called the instant gratification factor. It's what we've been conditioned to,
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  Speaker 5: you know, accept as progress or to accept as a reward.
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  Speaker 5: There's a dopamine response that is correlated in the brain
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  Speaker 5: with the instant gratification factor, and that's really where it
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  Speaker 5: kind of comes from.
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  Speaker 8: Man.
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  Speaker 5: Is a lot of people, just like you said, they
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  Speaker 5: want to sit down and meditate for a month tops,
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  Speaker 5: and then after that, you know, they're like, oh, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't experience anything, and I'm like, that's that's not the point.
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  Speaker 5: That's like you need to keep going and mastering it.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, and the other big thing a lot
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  Speaker 5: of the spiritual community likes to you know, they describe
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  Speaker 5: meditation all wrong. And that's something that kind of grinds
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  Speaker 5: my gears a little bit, because meditation is not just
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  Speaker 5: quieting your mind. You will get there, don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 5: But what it is in truthfulness, at least in my opinion,
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  Speaker 5: is you're watching your thoughts pass by objectively and you're
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  Speaker 5: not attaching yourself to any of those thoughts. It's just
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: like you're sitting there, you know, and looking at a
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  Speaker 5: stream in the mountains, and you see this leaf pass
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  Speaker 5: down the stream. That's your thought. Are you reaching out
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  Speaker 5: and grabbing the leaf? No? Are you doing anything to
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  Speaker 5: disrupt the flow of the leaf. No, You're watching it
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  Speaker 5: pass by. And you know that is essentially what meditation
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  Speaker 5: is in the beginning. And then yes, eventually, what will
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  Speaker 5: happen is as you get good at objectively watching your
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  Speaker 5: thoughts pass by and not attaching yourself to them, then
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  Speaker 5: you will quiet your mind. It's kind of like a
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  Speaker 5: step by step process. But again I'll digress. Like I
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  Speaker 5: was saying, Man, a lot of it's instant gratification factor,
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  Speaker 5: and a lot of it is be fad. It's not
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  Speaker 5: really a way of life. It's not, you know. That's
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  Speaker 5: That's the one thing I'll say is, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: try to live that way of life the best I can.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: I'm very Eastern in the way I live in my philosophy,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Like you know, I get up train, do my rights
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: every morning, things like that, kind of clean up you know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: my space, door, my space like you know, meditate like
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: you know, it's it's it's a whole different process when
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: you actually attempt to live the life and you know,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: you attempt to actually do the healing kind of what
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: we're talking about tonight. The other thing about a lot
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: of these spiritual community is a lot of them are
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: just very unhealed, you know, like and one of the
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: biggest premises in the spiritual community is, you know, we
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: have to step into a new way of being. We
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: have to step into a new way of life. That's
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: that's kind of what we need to do in order
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: to kind of achieve what we're looking for or to
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: you know, live that more spiritually sound existence that I like.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: This guy said, meditation always gives me homework to do
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: in the assignment, get harder every time. That's a good one.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: That's a good one, fireflies in the lighthouse. I like that,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: And yes, that happens to me as well. But you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: I'll digress. You know a lot of people don't want
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: to do the inner work a lot of people don't
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: want to heal themselves, man. You know, it's it takes
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: true bravery to go within yourself and open up that
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: closet full of skeletons. Man, And you might open that
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: door and you might like look up and you might
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: see that these skeletons are piled fucking high, dude, and
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: that quite a lot of skeletons in there, and that's
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: going to take years to work through, you know. Excuse me.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: Same thing with your demons. You know, I look at
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: demons as part of the ego self. You know, they
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: can manifest themselves outwardly, don't get me wrong, but demons
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: are part of the ego itself. And it takes bravery
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: to sit down with your demons and to put them
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: in their place and to you know, try to gain
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: and understand for those aspects of yourself. And the spiritual
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: community doesn't like doing that, man. They're they're all about
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: the love and the light. They're about bypassing, at least
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: at this point in time. Now, that's not everyone. There
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: are some people who are actually doing the work, you know.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: And I've kind of started to shift gears of my
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: show a little bit too. I mean, even though I
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: talk about spiritual topics, I've you know, I'm having a
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: political guest on tomorrow night. I'm trying to expand my
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: horizons as well, because at the same time, you know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: you can only beat the horse dead so much, you know,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: I've I've constantly tried to relay this message to a
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: lot of my listeners that you know, we need to
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: be doing the work. We need to be talk walking
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: the walk, not just talking the talk, you know, and
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: we need to start putting a lot of this into
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: practice and training. Man. And you know, like people have
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: just become so hypnot tied by tarot cards oracle cards,
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: you know, the New Age train of thought. And I
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: kind of this is what I was saying in the beginning.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: I'm kind of Old Age man, because in a lot
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: of the Old Age beliefs, when you're in very intense
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: emotional states, whether positive or negative. And this is actually
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: a very Taoist philosophy, when you're in these intense emotional states,
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: you're closest to the core of your true divine nature
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: at that point. So why would you negate these why
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: would you try to bypass this? If when you're dealing
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: with this and you're sitting through this, you're actually getting
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: in closer and getting more in touch with that divine
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: aspect of yourself. So you know, I feel you, man,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: it's caused me. I'll digress and say it's caused me
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: a good bit of frustration as well. I think it's
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: a frustration that both you and I share on a
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: level also, you know, because me like you know, especially
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: with with some of the conspiracies in the news community
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: as well that they have going on. I can't tell
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: you how many times I've seen you know that there's
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: going to be intervention if the there's going to be
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: non human intervention, if we did the one tenth of
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: the planet does not wake up or vice versa. It
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: just it just perpetuates a nonsense. Man, So so that
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: you and I both agree on.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: But that's just the weird thing is like, though the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: massive amount of people that is supposedly quote unquote waking up,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: we haven't hit this the prime number yet to ascend
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: into the fifth dimension. You would think that by supposedly
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: more people waking up that things would change, but it
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: doesn't and hasn't regardless of what happens. It's like, it
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: doesn't really matter, because nothing actually changes. It just creates
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: this echo chamber of people that are preaching to other people,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: and then new people are coming.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: In and then they're having to learn all.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: This stuff, and then it just becomes this like this
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: fest of nonsense and perpetuation of old ideas on top
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: of semi old ideas, combined with information from people that
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: have come two hundred years, you know what I mean.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: It's just like a it's a regurgitation in a revolving
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: door of things that have already been talked about with
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: something new that's just been spliced in there to make
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: it a little bit more spicy. And along with the buzzwords.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: You got to put the buzzwords in there. If you
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: don't have the buzzwords in there, then no one is
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: going to listen to you. They're not going to understand
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: which a saying, Like, if you speak it to them plainly,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you get a lot of backlash, like people start coming
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: after you. But if you say something like mk ultra
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: or antarctica or a softball or directed energy weapon or
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: some you know, catch all buzz phrase, then people are.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I wont hundred percent.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Agree, it makes no logical sense, but I think in
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: the in the beginning, I guess what I really meant
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: by Spirituality was more of a philosophical and theology type
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: of show. That's really what I what I wanted to be,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and I love philosophical and discussions and discussing theology is
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: some of my favorite discussions to ever have. But it's
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: actually hard to have them nowadays because people get so
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: butt hurt and think that you're like arguing with them
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: when you aren't. You're just actually making them think, and
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: that's the way that a conversation is supposed to go.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: It's challenging each other's ideas, like with you know, some
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: of my favorite conversations that I've ever had on the
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: show has been with Wayne Stagger and with Robert Falco,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: and the one with David Whitehead was really good too.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: But Robert Robert Falco is a psychotherapist, and I get
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: along really well with psychotherapists or any kind of therapist
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: because they actually listen and respond based off of your reply.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Any kind of therapist I've ever had a conversation with
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: is really the best type of people to have a
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: solid theosophical conversation with. But you mentioned obesity earlier and
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: this is a really important topic. Is because America is
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: in the and I believe the top three or five.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I would have to look it up statistically, but we're
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: in the top countries with the least healthy countries and
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: obesity is were like in the at least in the
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: top five of most abese countries in the world. And
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I looked up a statistic earlier because I figured we
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: were going to talk about this, and it said that
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: women's obesity increased twenty one percent from nineteen ninety to
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two at forty three percent, and for men
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: it decreased sixteen percent to forty one percent in twenty
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: twenty two. In twenty twenty two, every US state and
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: territory had an obesity rate of over twenty percent. Just
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: think about that for a minute. Every single state in
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the United States had an obesity rate of over twenty percent.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: And you know, one of the one of the biggest
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: things because you brought it up in the kind of
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: the beginning of the show. Because when it comes to food,
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: this is something not a lot of people know about.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: So I'll kind of start here and we'll kind of
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: expand and we'll build off of this. So you talked
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: about the organic food section at the grocery store, and
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: a lot of people don't really understand how this all began.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: So in the late fifties early sixties, the World Health
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Organization they embarked on creating this Food and Safety Act
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: called Codex Elementarius, and the US became a member of
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Codex Alimentarius in nineteen sixty three. So what Codex Elementarius
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: is is, you know, like I was saying, it's a
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: food Safety and Handling Act. So basically what this means
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: is that it gives guidelines for what the World Health
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: Organization considers a safe food handling practices and packaging practices. Right.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: But here's the thing about Codex is Codex gives the
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: guidelines to monocultures, which is one of the things you
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: don't see in nature. I mean, you could if we
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: could take a time machine and go back two thousand years,
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: we would never see acres of corn growing side by side.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: We would never see two to three thousand cows packed
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: in maybe a fifteen acre want we would never see
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: any of this. So that's kind of where the first
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: thing kind of opened the door to what we would
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: call factory farming in industrial farming, and I'll tie into
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: where this kind of gets intoday at this as well
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: and how it ties into obesity. So with that, also,
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Codex Elementarius put in their guidelines that you have to
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: use neonicotinites for pesticides on your industrial crops. We've seen
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: a lot of the information in the evidence on you
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: nikotsonides and how bad they are for you also as well.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: This is what gave the guidelines to give antibiotics growth
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: hormones to the meat as well as imposing fines on
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: farmers that did not want to follow the Codex guidelines
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: and the USDA guidelines that were adjunct with the Codex guidelines.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: So you wonder why organic food is so expensive, it
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: is because those farmers are paying fines because they do
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: not want to follow the Codex Alimentarius and the adjunct
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: USDA guidelines that go along with it. So what this
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: ended up doing is this ended up blowing up factory farming,
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: and then after it blew up factory farming, it started
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: to dec grease organic farming, which is why we saw
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: the price go up for foods that are labeled organic.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: And that is when the organic label started to be
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: put on foods at that time. So so, and what's
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: funny is if you look at the meatless propaganda that's
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: going on right now, how they're saying that, oh, factory
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: farming is blowing up greenhouse gases, it's increasing our fart
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: carbon footprint, all of that. They're the original proprietors of that,
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: and they did so back in the early sixties. So
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: it's kind of an interesting you know, coming full circle
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: when you look at it from the broader spectrum of
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: everything that's going on that you know, a lot of
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: the stuff that's going on with the food they had
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: a hand in and they made it so in the
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: early sixties. So and the reason why I think obesity
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: rates are starting to increase, well this this is kind
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: of you know, one thing I think that you and
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: I agree on. I don't think everything is an infiltration.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: I do think there are organic instances where you know,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: these things can happen in certain people or certain groups
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: in the population due to whether it be human nature,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: human psychology. You know, we have those things that we
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: deal with as human beings. But where I think the
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: obesity started to come into play was the convenience factor.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, you look at you know, if.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: We agree to grow fast food. Dude, fast food.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: That's a lot of people, exactly, man, exactly the convenience factor.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: So I mean, if we look at.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Freaking TV dinners, bro, like getting a TV dinner and
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: some mac and cheese or whatever those mac and cheese
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: packs are or whatever and going home and making it
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're cooking a meal. Okay, that's not cooking
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: a meal.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: It's not it's not. Man. And also too, you know
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: you heard about the whole fat sugar thing that happened
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: in the fifties. You know, obese was rising, you know,
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: we were we were starting to see an increase in
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: cancers as well in the fifties. And what ended up
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: happening was is the sugar lobbyists got to congress first
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: before the fat lobbyists. And as we know, fat's very
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: healthy for us, I mean, even saturated animal fat. If
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: some people don't know what saturated fat does, it's essential
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: to building hormones and neurotransmitters and actually coating your nervous
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: system so it functions properly. So like, saturated fats are
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: something that we do need. And and so they the
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: sugar lobbyists in the fifties ended up making fat the
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: enemy instead of sugar. So we have this whole low
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: fat craze right now, you know, or that kind of
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: started to gain momentum. I think, I want to say
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: the late sixties into the seventies is when it started
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: to really gain momentum. It started to get really big
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: in the nineties because I remember my household being full
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: of low fat things or you know, fat free things,
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: vice versa. But if you look at the sugar content
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: and a lot of these fat free r low fat products,
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: it's grossly a lot larger than if you were to
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: get the full fat product. And here's the thing too,
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: is like couple that with the sugars, the extra intake
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: of sugars and artificial sweeteners. So we all know about
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Donald Rumsfeld and him trying to push the asperteam. I
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: think it was originally pushed if I'm correct, in the seventies,
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: and it got denied by the FDA at first because
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: of the side effects. I mean, there was clinically documented
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: side effects that Asper team does cause brain lesions, It
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: does have a offense a effect on the insulin system.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: It does still spike your in insulin and have an
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: insulin effect in your body despite it being quote unquote
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: sugar free. And then we know Donald Rumsfeld lobbied and
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: ended up getting aspartein passed. I think it was an
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: eighty four during the Reagan administration is when it officially
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: got passed. And you know, we have a couple that
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: the extra sugar, the artificial sweeteners, and then the seed
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: oils as well. So like I did a whole episode
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: on this, if anybody wants to check it out, it's
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: called Deconstructing the Propaganda the Food, and I kind of
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: went through a lot of the what I'll call pop
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: propaganda science articles that are stating that seed oils are
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: not bad for you and you can eat as much
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: of them as you want. But at the same time,
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: I'm holding up an nih study right next to it
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: about the omega three to omega six balance. So this
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: is something that not a lot of people understand, and
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: they're not you know, savvion. So we have a ratio
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: that we eat when it comes to fantty acids. So
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: we have omega threes omega six is is what we're
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: going to talk about now, But we have omega seven's
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: omega nines. They have their own different purposes in the body.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: In fact, you're trying to boost testosterone eat more omega nines.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of clinical studies that kind of help
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: that show that omega nine such as an avocado and
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: olive oil actually do help contribute to testosterone production in
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: the human body.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: You know what's really weird too. Not to cut you off,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I want to I want to pick back up on
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: your thought.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: So remember remember exactly where you are.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: But it's so funny because if you get on the internet,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: like you'll have people saying that one thing is good
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: for you, and then you'll scroll down a little bit
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: further and then they'll have another person saying that that thing.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Is super bad for you.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's like this confusion type
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: of thing that people don't really know what to believe
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: because there's so much information out there. One side is
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: telling you that it's okay for you. The other side
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: is saying that it's not okay for you. So what
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: is it supposed to be? You can literally get on
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: a social media site and scroll through it and someone
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: will be like, make sure and eat, make sure and
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: eat all of your fruits. Whenever you blueberries are amazing
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: for your skin, and then scroll down a little bit
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: and they'll be like blueberries calls rashes on your genitals. Like, dude,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: it's so crazy, bro, it's so crazy. I've literally seen
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: that happen several times, Like, Oh, the thing that I'm
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: looking at is telling me one thing, and then I
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: scroll down a little further and then it's somebody saying
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: the complete opposite.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: It's unbelieving on that, man, I'm with you. So there's
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: a lot of contradicting information. The best thing I could
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: tell you is if you got to cook it and
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: make it from scratch, it's okay for you. Or if
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: it comes from nature, it's okay for you. The one
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: thing not a lot of people talk about, though, in
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: the plant based communities, they don't talk about oxalate and
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: oxalate poisoning. So oxalate poisoning it's a very slow effect.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: There's it's a compound that's picked up in the soil.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: It's from the pollution, but it's absorbed quite a bit
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: by leafy greens, beats. Certain berries of a affinity for
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: it as well. I don't know if blueberries are on
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: that list per se, but that's the other thing too.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: You know, as you have a build up of oxalates
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: in the body, and what this will do is this
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: will cause nervous system issues. This will cause kids meat
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: kidney stones. You'll get calcium oxalate stones. And I've had
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: a kidney stone before in the past. Let me tell you,
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: you don't want one of those. It is not a
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: fun time. And but that's the other thing too, is
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: you know, to kind of clear up that confusion, I
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: would say that if you have to cook it and
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: you have to make it from scratch or it's fresh
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: to eat right off the tree, it's okay for you.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: It's good because one of the things that I talk
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: with a lot of people are whole foods. Okay, like
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: and what I mean by whole foods. You go to
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: the store, you buy some eggs. Those eggs are a
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: whole food. You know. You go and you buy some rice.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: That rice is a whole food. Now. I know there's
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: a lot of carbohydrate freaks out there, you know, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: I'll just go on the whether they are anti carb
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: or procarb or whatever. Your carbohydrate intake should be tailored
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: to your daily activity. That's the number one thing that not.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: If you're a very sedentary person and you don't work out,
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: you're sitting at a desk a lot, or you know,
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: you're not very active, then yeah, you can get away
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: with a ketogenic diet absolutely, you know, or a paleo diet,
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: something that switches your body into ketosis. They said fake
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: eggs from China, which they do exist, but in the
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: comment section down here. But you know, and that's fine.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: But if you're an athlete of any kind or you train,
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: uh like I, do you need carbohydrates. Those carbohydrates fuel
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: the activity. And one of the biggest debates I've had
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: with people on the whole carb thing is they talk
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: about paleo and paleo and how we didn't eat these
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: grains at the time. My biggest thing is this, we
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: now have evidence for agriculture in human civilization that could
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: potentially date back at this point in time to five
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: hundred thousand plus years. These are I'm talking new discoveries
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: at this point. You know that maybe what we know
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: is human civilization has been agriculturally inclined and has been
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: a little bit more privy to how the world works
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: longer than we have known or what I guess you
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: could say popular science wants to admit. So my question is,
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: you know, if that's the case, if we're now talking
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: about five hundred thousand plus years with some kind of
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: agriculture and harvesting, you know, crops and things like that,
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: how far we move it is the true paleolithic man
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: at this point? You know, micro evolution is the thing.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: Guys like you know, if there's any kind of evolution,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you has loads of evidence micro evolution. Does
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: you know? Animals and mammals can make small changes to
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: their genetic structure over time to be able to handle
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: different and stimuli from the environment. So that's that's the
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: whole thing, you know, with the whole paleo thing. But
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: we'll digress back to the point. But you know, like
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: I was saying before, the omega three to omega six
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: ratio with seed oils. So the ideal ratio for you
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: want six to one six omega six one omega threes,
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: and this is the ideal ratio that you want to eat.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: But right now we're looking at twenty to one in
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: American society, so we're looking at twenty omega six is
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: one omega threes. So the difference between omega three and
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: omega six fats is omega three's or your anti inflammatory fat.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: So when you ingest uh threes, it released something called
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: an anti inflammatory prostaglandin. And what a prostaglandin is, it's
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: a hormone that takes care of inflammation in the body.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: So you're looking at the omega threes kind of like
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: being your advil or your insid of the food world.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Like they help with these inflammatory issues, they help with
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: heart health. There there's not really much bad I can
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: bad I can say about omega threes, but then you
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: get to omega sixis now omega sixes are inflammatory fats.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: So when you know, yes, we do need inflammation, Inflammation
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: is an important process in the body. I'm not saying
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: that we have to be completely anti inflammatory, but this
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: is another thing that's causing the obesities. We have a
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: freaking massive amount of inflammation going on because of these
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: increased amount of omega six fanny acids. So I mean
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: inflammation itself will cause leaky gut, cause biofilm, cause all
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: of these things that cause these digestion issues. And another
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: thing a lot of people don't really talk about when
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: it comes to obesity is the thyroid problems that we
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: have here in America. And I'm going to go on
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: a limb and say this, A lot of it has
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: to do with the fluoride. And the reason why I'm
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: saying that is not a lot of people will understand this.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: But what fluoride does is it attaches to receptor sites
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: on your thyroid. And when the fluoride attaches to receptor
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: sites on your thyroid, it causes it to not function properly.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: And what we can do to alleviate this is take iodine.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: That's the number one thing that we can do to
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: help alleviate that issue, is if that is the issue
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: with obesity, because iodine will actually work with the thyroid,
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: knock the fluoride off of the receptor sites on the
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: thyroid and actually start to help it function normally and properly.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: And I mean, you look at the American diet writer,
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: we barely have any iodine. Barely, I mean, and you
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: can see in some salts you'll have iodie salt and
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: it's got maybe five percent of your daily intake of
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: iodine in it. But we look over at a lot
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: of the Eastern countries in China, and in Thailand, and
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: in Japan they eat loads of seaweed, like you know,
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: they eat tons of seaweed over there, and seaweed is
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: very high in iodine. And this is why when we
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: go over to you know, despite Japan not having the
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: healthiest diet right now, they've kind of imbibed themselves in
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: the fast food industry and all of the convenience factors,
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: we don't really see. Yes, it's growing, but as of
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: right now, we don't see so much obesity in Japan.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: Same thing with Korea, same thing with China, because their
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: diets have a higher intake of iodine than the American
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: diet has. So I'll digress and say this man, obesity
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: has a multifaceted issue. It has I mean, if I'm
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: were to sum it up, it has to do with
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: the sedentary lifestyle, the technology. It has to do with
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: the convenience factor of foods. Getting something when you want
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: something that tastes good freaking might not be the best
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: for you. What they're putting in the foods, the food
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: handling processes. It's just a shitfest all round. And I'll
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: leave it at that. Very nice, Your MIC's soft broa
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: I can't hear you.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I was concentrated on you actually figuring out, but yeah,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: the federal court rules against EPA and lawsuits of a
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: fluoride and water Federal re Court in California rule tuesday
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: against Environmental Protection Agency offering officials to take action over
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: concerns about potential health is from currently recommended levels of
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: fluoride in American drinking more supply. The ruling by District
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Court Judge Edward Chan, an appoint you of former President
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Barack Obama, deals a blow to the public health groups
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: and growing debate about whether the benefits of continuing to
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: add fluoride to the water supply outweighs this risk. This
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: is an article from CBS News. Environmental nonprofit Food Water
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: in water Watch and the handful of anti fluoride groups
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: like Fluoride Action Network have been in court for nearly
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: a decade after the EPA denied the petition against local
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: water utilities adding in the mineral. While Chan was careful
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: to say that his ruling does not conclude with certainty
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: that fluoride and water is injurious to public health, he
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: said that the evidence of the potential risk was now
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: enough to warrant and forcing the EPA to take action
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: now and all. There is substantial and scientifically credible evidence
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: establishing that fluoride poses a risk to human health. It
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: is associated with reduction in IQ of children WHICHE, and
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: is hazardous at doses that are far too close to
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: fluoride levels and the drinking water in the United States.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: The judge wrote in his ruling, so I don't really
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: know what they're what's going to come of that, if
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: anything is going to change, but they just ruled against it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think that that actually means that they have
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: to completely take.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Out fluoride out of the water.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: I think that it just means that they have.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: To lower the level of fluoride that's currently in the water.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Hold on, let me find it here.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Which is better than nothing, because high levels of fluoride
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: is very dangerous.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Fluoride rules out water by Congress. No Congress has not
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: ruled out fluoride in water, but a federal court in
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: California has ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to strengthen regulations
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: of fluoride and drinking water. On September twenty seven, federal
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: court rule that the EPA must strengthen regulations of fluoride
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: and drinking water. The court found that the current recommended
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: level of fluoriding and drinking water is zero point seven
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: milligrams per leader poses an unreasonable risk the children's health.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: The court order the EPA to take regulatory action estimate
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: to eliminate the risk. So it doesn't mean that they're
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: completely taking the flooride out, but they have to lower
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: the levels to a substantial amount. I don't know how
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: much it is currently in there. I'm guessing a lot,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: because I mean, we got.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: A lot of.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Wacky people running around. But I don't think that that's
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: just the cause of the fluoride. The fluoride is definitely
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: a part of it. But there's also pharmaceutical medications in
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: the drinking water.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: I agree with that as well.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Man, Uh, there's birth control in the drinking water. There's
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: there's freaking hormones in the drinking water, you know, Like
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: there's all that stuff because it's recycled water. It's not
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: coming from a natural awqua for so the stuff that
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: you flush your toilet with and using the sink is
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: recycled right back into your in your sink.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, man, and and no, and you made me think
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: of Alex Jones and the frogs turned gay. That's why
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: it started. But but but dude, he got proven right
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: on that. He got you know, there there was something
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: that came out. I guess there is a some kind
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: of pharmaceutical or some kind of chemical that's in the
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: water supply that does feminize men. So I mean, fuck,
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's funny to think about. But no,
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: you know, if somebody because what fluoride does, man, is it?
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we a lot of people in
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: the community know about calcifying the peneal plan so I
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: think I'll kind of expand on that a little. So
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: what fluoride does is it draws excess calcium to wherever
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: it attaches on receptor sites. So like you know, like
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: I was talking about your thyroid earlier, Uh, you know,
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: when fluoride starts to attach to the receptor sites on
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: your thyroid, it starts to attract calcium. And you know,
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: and what this can cause when you have this access
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: of florid, aside from the IQ issues and the hormone problems,
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: it causes fluorosis of the bones. And that's something not
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: a lot of people talking about. Fluorosis is actually when
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: your bones become so brittle from the excess amount of calcium,
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: because your bones have a mineral balance. This is why
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: if anybody who's taking a calcium supplement, they already know
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: they have to take calcium with magnesium and vitamin D
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: in order to balance out that ratio that works for
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: your body. But when you have an overabundance of calcium
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: and you don't have that balance from the other mineral
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: and vitamin D to go hand in hand with that,
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: what it does is it ends up weakening bone density
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: and it causes fluorosis of the bones. And there was
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: actually a news story maybe while I'm talking to you,
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: if you got time, but I guess there was. They
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: were It was either somewhere in the Midwest. It was
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: either I want to say, Minnesota or Indiana. They were
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: having issues with children getting fluorosis of the teeth because
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: of the amount of fluoride that was in their drinking water.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: So fluoride is a bad thing, man, I mean, we can.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: I mean even what you were saying with children. Every
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: time I walked through the grocery store, they still have
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: the water for babies with fluoride in it. And you know,
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: every time I look at that, I'm just like like,
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: why is this still here? Like this should be gone?
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: But you know, but nonetheless, that's that's a little known
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: problem to the obesity. Not a lot of people know
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: about here is because you know, yeah, we talk about
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: how fluoride calcifies the neo gland and all that, but
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: it fucks up your thyroid man, and causes it to
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: not act right and causes it to not act and
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: work as efficiently as it could with processing the nutrients
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: that you would take through food. So it's a big issue.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely it is. And I hope that.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand why they just why would
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: they just lower the amount that they put in there?
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Why don't they just completely eliminated. I don't understand why
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: it's in there to begin with, Like why are they
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: actively putting fluoride in anyone's water? That should be the question. Like, well,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: then they raise that to the freaking judge, the district
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: court judge, like why is it in there at all?
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what they'll say.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: They'll say it's because of your teeth and that. But
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: that's what you go to the dentist for. You go
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: to the dentist, they use fluoride on your teeth. You
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: don't need it to be drinking it every single.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Day, exactly man, And not a lot of people understand.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: So expanding on that, we literally, if you're not aware
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: of it, the human population is in taking what I
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: would call, at this point in time, concentration camp levels
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: of fluoride. So I mean, yeah, you have it in
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: the drinking water, but then if you're using a toothpaste
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: or if you're using a mouthwash that contains fluoride, like, yes,
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: you're swallowing little bits, but we're talking about total build
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: up here, so it doesn't stop there. So you have
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: your your water from public services, you have your toothpaste,
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: which you swallow little bits of, and then you guts
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: your mouthwash which you swallow a little bits of. You
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: can't help it. That doesn't even start to scratch the
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: surface of teflon and what teflon is. So teflon is
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: a fluoride carbon compound. And there was a documentary about
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: the teflon plant I think it was up in the
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: East Ohio West Virginia border of the people who were
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: working there who were having severious deformities and birth defects
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: and their children from the teflon, And so I mean
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: you have to think do teflon stays in your body
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: for life for a very long time, because we're talking
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: about a slow build up. So you have not only
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: the water, the toothpaste, the mouthwash, you have the pans
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: that you're cooking with. You have the liners of cans
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: and popcorn bags now that also have a teflon included
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: in them. So I mean we are kind of getting bombarded.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: And microplastics, garbage. Like when I'm saying like, even if
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: you have a filter, because I filter my drinking water
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: through a filter that is supposed to take out ninety
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: nine percent of like everything, which it does make it
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: taste a lot better. But it's like, Okay, well we
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: can take it out of the drinking water, but we
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: still shower with the same water. We still wash our
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: clothes in the same water, you know, So you're getting
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: it regardless, it's still absorbing into your skin through the shower.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: You're still get hitting your skin. So it's like, but
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: I'm with you. Yeah, one of the best things we
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: can do is get a whole home filtration system. And
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: the only thing that's going to remove is the fluoride,
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: the microplastics, the pharmaceutical medications out of the water. As
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: a reverse osmosis filter, that's the only thing that's going
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: to take all of that out. And if you do
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: get a setup, you put it right on your cold
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: water shut off. It's not super hard. It comes with directions,
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: shows you how to do it all of that. But
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: and you'll get remineralization tablets because not a lot of
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: people tell you is you do need minerals in your
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: in your drinking water or you know, hyponatremia is a
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: very fucked up thing. And a lot of people who
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: swear by reverse osmosis water or distilled water that do
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: not remineralize it. I always ask how you feel in
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: feeling a little tired, feeling like your head hurts. Yeah,
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: I can tell you why that is. But no, that's
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: really the best route man. And you know, taking iodine
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: every day too, that's something I can't say enough about.
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: You know, one of the biggest hacks I have for that.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: If you guys want to hear it, go get kelp.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: Kelp is very high in iodine. It's cheaper than food
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: grade elements. Until iodine and it works just as good.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: So I mean, you can go to the the vitamin
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: store and get a Nature's Way Help supplement for thirteen
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: bucks and that'll last you three months, as opposed to
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: if you go order an elemental food grade iodine supplement,
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: you're looking at paying thirty to forty to fifty upwards
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: of sixty dollars for just eight month supply. So that's
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: that's what I would say. Man, it's it's it's you know,
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: it's an investment. Some of the whole home filtration systems
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: are like two hundred bucks. But however that it'll, it'll,
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: it'll help alleviate most of that. And I mean in
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: my household, we kick we cook with stainless steel and ceramic,
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: and uh, you know, we we try to alleviate. We
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: try to jar our own things. We try to use
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: the least amount of can goods. We pop our own popcorn.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: We get popcorn wholesale that's not in the bags, and
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: we just do a popcorn popper and it works just
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: just as good. It's great stuff. You can put much butter,
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: cheese powder or whatever whatever you want. And then at
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: that point too that na.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Your cheese powder is my favorite for the popcorn.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: And dude, you can't beat it. You can't beat it, man,
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: And but that's that's the way, man, And like, yeah, no,
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: I'm glad we brought this up because this is something
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: a lot of people overlook. I mean, not even just
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: for the decalcification of the pineal gland, but all the
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: other I mean, the hyperthyroidism thing is big, and it's
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: a very huge thing that most people overlook when it
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: comes to that.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be wild if like you did all of
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: these these things and you spend all this effort and
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: time to like and the money to buy like everything
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: that isn't going to cause your body damage, but then
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: you just end up dying the exact same way in
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: the exact same time. It didn't increase your life inspectancy
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: at all. You just it was just going to be
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: the same regardless. Well, you know, I think about sometimes
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, well, am I really doing anything?
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I don't really know.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: Well, the best way to put it is this man
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: with a lot of this health stuff, you know, And
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: that's kind of where like two, the instant gratification factor
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: can come into play a lot of people when they
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: do this stuff they expect like this dramatic I guess
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: you could say, this dramatic new feeling to overcome them,
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: like holy shit, like freaking like I've been drinking non
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: fluoridated water and bathing and non floridated water for two days.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: I feel fucking amazing and all of that. Like it's
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: when it comes to health, man, the best way I
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: can describe it is this, you will not notice it
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: very much while you are doing it, but the minute
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: you stop, you are going to notice it. And that
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: is something, at least in my own subjective personal experience,
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: I've encountered when it comes to certain things. I mean,
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: like what we were talking about with Omega threes earlier,
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: Like there will be times where, like you know, I
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: can't get to the store to go grab some because
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: I'm busy at work or whatever, and I have to
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: wait to the weekend. So I got to go a
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: few days without it. By about day three, I start
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: to notice that I have not been taking my own
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: Mega threes. It's just a very it's it's it's very
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: interesting way to explain it, but you know, I just
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: feel like I'm very big on biofeedback. You know, your
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: body tries to tell you things. Your body speaking to
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: you a lot. It just letting you know what's wrong.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: You just got to learn how to listen to it
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: in your own way. But I just did my I
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: can just tell my inflammation goes up. A lot of
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: nagging injuries or nagging pains that I've gained throughout the
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: years start to increase. It just becomes my mind starts
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: to not be as clear and as sharp. But but
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: this again, like I'm saying, man like you know, it's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: it's a very interesting thing with health and supplements. There's
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: certain supplements you'll feel, don't get me wrong. Like if
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: you get on a new tropic that's supposed to give
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: you energy. Fuck yeah, you're going to feel that new
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: tropic and you're going to have a lot of energy
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: from it. But when we're talking about general health, you know,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: as far as like things that go with the body,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: you're you're you're only going to notice it slightly while
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: you're taking it, and while you're doing it. If you
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: are very perceptive and you understand your body and you
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: know your body well, you'll feel it a little bit.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: You'll notice the difference, but you'll really notice it when
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: you stop taking it. And you know, of course, like
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: we have genetics that come into play, like you were
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: saying too. But then again, we have the field of
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: epigenetics now, you know, which kind of shows us that
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: we can rise above our genetic condition through our habits
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: and we can you know, choose certain gene expressions based
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: on our habits. So I mean, it's it's really all
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: about perspective, man. I mean, don't get me wrong, Like,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: is the whole home you know, filtration system going to
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: alleviate every source of fluoride that you can take? Absolutely not.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: I mean you know you're going to I mean, what
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: if you go to a friend's house and they're cooking
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: with tap water or you know, which actually concentrates the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: fluoride when you boil it, you know, or things like that.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: Then that's where you know, you do the best you can.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: That's where the iodine comes in. You know, you're making
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: all of the right choices. I mean, you don't have to.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: One of the biggest things I think a lot of
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: us in this community do is we turn into these
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: hypercritical freaks about a lot of things, you know, like
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: they like this person will not drink water. It doesn't
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: matter if they're dehydrated, but they will not drink the
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: water if it has fluoride in it. And it's like, dude,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: if that's the only source of water you have and
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: you're fucking thirsty at that point, drink the water. You're
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: taking the iodine, you're doing it. Anything else that you
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: need to do, you know, to do the best that
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: you can. And yeah, man, with health, it's not what
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: I would call a instant gratification. Like you know, you're
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: not going to you're not going to immediately see these
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: effects or experience these effects. And that's why a lot
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: of people more often than not fall off of their
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: health journey prematurely because dude, I'm gonna tell you this.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: Like another thing too, man, I mean, for working out,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: I didn't really start to see true and real results
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: until about six to eight months into it. And you know,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: we see all of this stuff where people see these
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: these what I call fad programs. Oh, you'll get ripped
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: in ninety days, like you know, and you don't have
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: to do anything else or this this. But again, man,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: like one of the biggest problems we have in a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: society is chasing the instant gratification factor. You know what
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: I mean. It's the it's the dopamine. It's because we've
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: become so addicted to our own endogenous dopamine, and that's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: really the only way that we consciously feel something or
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: rewarded or like something's working is with that height of dopamine.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: It's not that delayed gratification process.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Well, that's also been you know, exemplified by our technology
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: as well. You know, like now we can just order something.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: From Amazon and it'll be here tomorrow.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: We can get coffee delivered directly to us. We can
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: uber eat, we can we can door dash whatever we want.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: And I just had a statistic.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Up here and.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: I missed it, but I think I accidentally exited out
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: of the statistic. But I was typing in how many
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: people eat out rather than cooking at home, because I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: was looking at that statistic really interestingly. And a lot
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: of these studies are really skewed because they're thinking that,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: like I was mentioning earlier, that going to the store
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: and buying some pre made thing and then coming home
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: and warming it up is considered cooking it home. But
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, like actually going to the store buying the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: things that you need and coming home and making a
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: meal with ingredients, you know, And.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I had a really good one here. I don't know
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: where it is.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I'll tell you a story. I'm not
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: going to go into details on who they are, but
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: I know two people right now who are very obese.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: There.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: Doctor has basically gone to the guy and says, you
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: need to lose weight or you will not make it
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: into your forties. Is pretty much what the doctor verbatim
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: said to him. And you know they're family members of mine,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: and you know, but their solution is to eat out,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: but only eat out healthy things. And I'm just like,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: I'm sitting there and I'm just like I want to
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: fucking like shove my palm through my face at that point,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: because it's like, dude, like, yes, it could be quote
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: unquote healthy, but what kind of oil are they cooking in?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: What else is going in there? Like you know, So,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: I mean it is. It's a huge statistic thing man, that,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: you know, especially with the busy, you know, spread thin
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: lives most people are living nowadays.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, I found it. It says that the research found
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: the seventy percent of customers ordered food delivery in the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: past month, seventy percent picked up takeout order in the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: last month, while slightly fewer sixty eight percent at a
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: restaurant in the past month. Like that's wild. That's such
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: a wild And I've been running into more people every
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: day that just like don't know how to cook. They
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: just don't know how.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Here it is, Yah, got it?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Where did you go? Okay, that's not it? Okay, no, okay,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: here it is. The researcher also found the seventy percent
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: of customers order food delivery in.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: The past month.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Right here. I just wanted to show that some people
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: don't see them just making stuff up. So that's that's
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: the current state of affairs that we're in, is that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: people would rather order food to their house than actually
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: cook the food themselves. And they're missing out on a
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: really and I understand, and I understand, Okay, like a
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: lot of people don't have time, like they're just working
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: all the time, like twenty four to seven. And the
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: people that have like a family, it's a lot easier
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: just to order food and have them eat it. But
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: they're missing out on a lot of things. They're like,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: I'm a one hundred percent believer in like energy and
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: like the energy that you put in the things, and
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: the love and the attention that you put into things
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: like come back to you, you know what I mean.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: So if you're like cooking food and you're putting positive
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: and good energy into that the cooking that food, the
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: food is gonna taste one hundred times better. It's going
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: to be incredible for you to eat. And you don't
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: know what these other people, because we're talking about before
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: the show, is how people work a lot of jobs
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: that they hate, that they don't want to work, you know,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: especially in fast food and like restaurants. I mean, there
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: are some restaurants where you know, people love where there's
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: an actual chef in the back and he loves cooking
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: and then he's going to cook you in an amazing meal.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: But for the most part, especially with the fast food,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: like those people.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Do not care about their jobs.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Because it's not meant to be a career. But they're
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: they're looking at it as like a career, like I'm
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: gonna stay at McDonald's for fregging thirty years or whatever.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll become the manager, maybe I'll move up one day.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: But that's those types of jobs are not career. Types
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: of jobs, but people have turned them into career types
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: of jobs and they hate every single minute of it,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: every second of it. I haven't which I had. I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: don't eat fast food. I have any fast food and
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: like I don't know, maybe once or twice in the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: past six or seven years. Nice, but what I did,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: what I did whenever I did go to fast food restaurants.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: So it's people look like they hated their lives. But again,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: like people, they don't have enough time to cook a
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: proper meal. I mean, even if I lived alone, I
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: would still cook my own I wouldn't order out because
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: that's just what I've become accustomed to and what I've
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: become used to, and it's actually fun. It's fun to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: cook your own food.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: Absolute cooking is a skill man, and I think everybody
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: should know that. And you know, there's a lot of
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: really good options for a lot of the people that
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: you talked about. So I have certain quirks with them.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you there's certain things you probably shouldn't
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: eat from them, like don't eat their bread or their rolls.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: But everything else is pretty pretty sound is hello fresh man,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: And no, I'm not being a paid spokesperson. By them.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong. This is just something I've used,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: and you know we still currently use it here and there.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: But what it does is it basically is you pick
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: out these meal plans. You pick out these meals, right like,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: you look at whatever's good. And what they do is
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: they send you this box. They send you all the ingredients,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: They send you the meat, they send you the veggies,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: they send you the carb all that stuff, and all
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: of these are in these little brown bags and they're
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: organized and separate. So I mean, and basically, the grocery
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: shopping's done for you. The picking of the meal is
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: done for you. All you need to do is just
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: chop the stuff up and cook it. At that point,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: so like it opens up a door, you know, for
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: people who do feel very spread thin, those people have families,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: those people who work a lot of hours and those
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: dead end jobs. I totally get it. But this this
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: opens an option for people, so you know, they can
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: learn to cook. I think cooking is a very valuable skill,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: Like you know, I mean, some people like me, I've
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: taken it to the next level. I make cheese, I
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: make pickles, I make wine like I do, you know,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: like a whole bunch of different things that you know
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: that are good skills to learn and you can always
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: kind of keep yourself. You know, as an adult, we
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: get different hobbies, right like when you know we're kids,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: we have these different hobbies we do when we're adults.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: You know, I don't call them boring hobbies. I think
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: they're kind of fun. You know, you learn how to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: make cheese, you learn how to make wine, you learn
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: how to make pickles. Like you kind of expand your repertoire.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: You know. It's great about that too. Is like you know,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: I love pickled green beans. You go to the store,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: they're like ten dollars a jar, but I make them
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: for a dollar fifty and freaking you know what I mean.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: And it's good or whole stuff. I'm not putting sul
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: fights or carbon or carbines in it. If my pickles,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: it's just vinegar, salt, sugar, and pickling spice. So like
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: you know what.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: That, Dude, I love some pickled eggs.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: I'll make you some pickled eggs next time you come
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: out here. Man. Hell yeah, dude, I love the eggs. Dude.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you, bro, it's it's good stuff. Man.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: But pickled eggs and pickled beets.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, dude, dude, don't even get me. Dude.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: Have you ever made beat eggs where you soak the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: eggs and the beets and the juice and you let
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: them soak.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, Yeah, pickled eggs, pickled eggs, get the make
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: the jar of beads, make the bee juice, and then
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: dump the horribleed egg into the bee juice and let
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: it soak for a couple of days.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: Oh dude, it's that's that's the best ship in the world. Man,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: Like that is underrated. But yeah, the same thing, man.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: And as you were saying too about these these dead
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: end jobs also, man, and I think, so this is
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: kind of I didn't get a chance on this, so
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: we do have to talk about consumerism. And I agree
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: with you, Tim, that's that's that's a very good point, man.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: You should be able to cook yourself a decent meal
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: and eat good.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: But I've also ran in the people to Steve that
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: don't know how to wash their own clothes. Legitimately, he's
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: not lying here, like I've literally ran in the people that.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Have never washed before and that don't know how to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: wash your clothes.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Or operate a washing machine unbelievable.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: It's it's you know, this is the two things I
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: want to address real quick. So first, you know, we
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: have the consumerism, the number one thing that's that's pushed
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: in our society, especially in American culture. We have consumerism,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: and the consumerist mindset is kind of what's put on
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: a pedestal, like you know, consume, consume, consume, bye bye bye,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: things like that. And you know that also gets tied
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: into you know, food as well. You know, like I mean,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: you look at a lot of these food commercials for
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: these try to make things look really appetizing, and that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: also plays into the consumerist mentality that you know, we're
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: dealing with in American society. The other thing about these
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: dead end jobs, too, dude, is the fact that real
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: skills are no longer talked about. They're no longer pushed
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: by people. You know, even when you're saying about the
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: washing machine, the truth be told. I had to teach
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: my brother how to do laundry when he was twenty
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: years old because my mom already my mom pretty much
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: did it all for him, so like he knows how
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: to do it now, dude. It's it's it's well, you know,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: we have to take a look at a lot of things, man,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: So like, you know, real skills are not pushed, like
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: I'm an electrician my day, you know, and I'm and
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: I'm grateful that I did get into this career at
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: least for the most part, because it is a practical
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: skill that you know, I can take with me anywhere
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: and that this world needs. Right now, what's being pushed
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: is going to And then I'm not saying college is worthless.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: If you have a plan to get into a lucrative
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: career that is skillful in college, then by all means,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: go to college. But what I'm seeing pushed a lot
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: of nowadays are these useless and pointless, pointless degrees that
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: a lot of people are are. I mean, I hate
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: to say it, I'm not hating, but women's a woman's
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: studies major, Like what what are you? What are you
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: going to do in the real world with a women's
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: studies major? Like it's like that's that's just that, that's in.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: You're in.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: You're you're forking over. I don't know how much forty
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: thousand dollars for tuition per semester or sometimes less or more,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: you know when we're talking about this. So that's what
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: seems to be being pushed by a lot of the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: mainstream is going to college and getting a degree in
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: something that's absolutely pointless, at least in my eyes.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Oh it's either pointless or it's something that people don't
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: really even want to do, but they're doing it because
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: they feel like they have to or that is going
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: to make them money in the future. You know, they're
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: not doing it because they actually want to do it
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: or that they like to do it. They're doing it
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: for ulterior reasons, and that is putting a hole in
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: their soul. It's making them very unhappy with their lives
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: because they're doing something that they necessarily don't want to do,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: but they're doing it either because their family wants them
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: to do it or they think that it's societally acceptable
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: for them to have to do it. You know, there's
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of that's a really big issue as well.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: It's like these things are just pushed on people when
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: they don't want to do them, or they don't feel
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: like they should do them, but they do them anyway,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: and that creates a really unhealthy society.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: I would agree, man, and I think you know what
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: we're also looking at, and when we talk about the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: sickness in the society, it's conformity, and that is something
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: I think that you know, we all have to address.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying overall conformity is a bad thing. I mean,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: when we're talking about it from a sociology standpoint, there
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: has to be some degree of conformity in order for
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: society to function properly. So so you know, but what
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: we've what we're encountering is it's become out of balance,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: this conformity. It's almost become a hyper conformity to where
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: you know, you're even touching on your posts about authenticity
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: right on how you know authenticity is being stifled right now,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: and I completely agree with that it is because of
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: this hyper conformity. And uh, this this is something too
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: like you're saying they're doing it because they feel like
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: they're supposed to. I mean it all ties down into
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: a lot of different factors. I mean, you have you're
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: coming out of high school. You got all your friends
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: going to college, and they're taking all of these weird
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: majors that are not going to get them real jobs
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: out in the real world. And you know, you want
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: to be part of that gang. You want to be
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: part of that group. And you know, I mean, we
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: look at what a lot of the mainstream as far
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: as politics pushes and stuff like that. They tell you
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: to go to college, you know what I mean, and
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: don't just go to college. It doesn't matter what you
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: do there, just just go to just go to college.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: And that's basically you know, the thing that's uh, that's
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: pushed quite a bit, so you know, and that also
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: kind of falls into play is you know, you have
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: people who are doing it because they feel like they're
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: supposed to do but that that even kind of one
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: of the biggest things at least in my opinion, that
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: is wrong with our society when it comes to stuff
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: like this, is we have a couple of different things.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: We have what I would call oxymoronic societal norms, and
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: we have oxymeronic stereotypes that this society and it's not
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: just American society. I know there's other developed countries kind
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: of do it as well. But they place these oxymoronic
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: norms and they place these oxymeronic stereotypes on pedestals in society.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: And what this kind of does is this breeds mental illness,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: This breeds mental instability. I mean, a very good example
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: of this is this. I mean, nowadays, it's changed. Now
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: the ideal man is completely skinny, fat and wears bras
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: and female's clothes, and the ideal woman is extremely obese.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: But back in the day before a lot of that
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: took over, you would see a man or a woman
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: that was presented as like the ideal man or woman,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: and they were what I would call the uh rare
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: genetic outlayers of the human population. Very rarely do you
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: see a woman who is a size zero and stacked naturally.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: Very rarely. That's not something that you gaze upon very often.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: Same thing with the men. You don't really find a
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 5: lot of men who have like a thirty inch shoulder
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: span with a twenty six inch waist, like you know
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: what I mean, that's that's not that's not something you see.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: And I mean even even with a lot of the
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: oxy neuronic norms. And this is one thing I've said
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: in a lot of my episodes. We are metaphorically in
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: American society jumping off a bridge because everybody else is.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: We might not be, we might not be physically doing
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: it because you remember when your mom was when you
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: were a kid and he did something bad with your friends,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: and your mom would go, well, if Jimmy jumped off
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: a bridge, would you And you're like, no, Mom, I'm
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: not gonna do that. But this is what Americans do
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: in American society on a day to day basis. They
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: metaphorically figuratively jump off a bridge because everybody else is
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: doing it. And it comes down.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: Com Bro, get on, oh zimpeg with me, dude, let's
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: get super skinny dog.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: I got a dude, I can't afford that. I got Lizo,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: I got.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: I got, give me some lizo, dude.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna get some diabearities. Hopefully man, I can get
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: the oz epic ben. But it is.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Interesting what you're talking about, though, is like because it's
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: the exact opposite of the spectrum. So they prompt up
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: the in the beginning, they propped up these ridiculously unachievable
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: types of people that an average person will never be
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: able to look like or uh be like. Then now
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: it's the complete opposite of that. They've flipped the script
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: and now it's just the extreme opposite. Now it's like.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: It is, dude, Now we're all right, because we're not fat.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: That's basically what they're trying to say. Yeah, but go ahead, no, no, no,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: go ahead you personally no.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna go to a completely different topic,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: but I want to stay on this.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: So no, you're good.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: No, Well the thing too, man, the thing too, Like
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying that, I mean, this is
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: this is because a good example, like there's a we
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: we follow a lot of these oxymoronic norms in our
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: society and we have no idea where they came from.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: We have no idea who made it a norm. Like
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: one of the one of the weird norms that I've
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: heard throughout my life is is by the time you're thirty,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: you should be in your dream career. You should have
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: already bought in a house, and you should you should
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: already have kids. And I'm like, who the fuck said that? Like,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: do you know who said that?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: Okay, do you know when this was instilled as a
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: norm or an ideology in American society?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: So, so then why the fuck are you following it
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: like that? That? That's like the biggest thing. I mean,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: that's part of you know, I guess even saying you know,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: being a critical thinker, you know, when you're looking at
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: everything that's happening around you. Another, one man, a lot
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: of a lot of people is a norm proposing to
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: the society that a man should be have short hair
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: and be clean shaven. Okay, who said that? Who instilled
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: that as a norm? And I saw somebody in the
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: comment session said impose norms, which I completely agree on
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: because they in my eyes, they were imposed. They have
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: no origin date they were they were thrown into the
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: mix somewhere down the line. You know, somebody famous kind
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: of said it, or a politician said it, or something
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: like that. And this is what also causes a lot
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: of mental illnesses. Writer, you know, these oxymuronic stereotypes and
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: these oxymuronic norms. I mean, you know, another women were
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: considered a spinster, if not exactly, you know what exactly.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: So like, you know, and because a lot of us
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: are constantly a lot well I'll say the general collective
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: are in a state of autopilot. They they don't take
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: a look at this, and they don't understand this, or
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: and they just continuously figuratively jump off the bridge with
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 5: you know, the rest of the American population because they're
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: all following this stuff and this is kind of you know,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: we're we're now diving into the psych psychological issues behind
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: the sickness in this society. And in my eyes, at
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: least in my opinion, like I was telling you in
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: the beginning, we have organic instances and we have instances
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: that are imposed. And I do think it's a combination
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: of both. I do not think that it is completely
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: an entirely governments or you know, intelligence agencies trying to
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: you know, craft humanity in a certain way. I mean,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: they that is definitely an aspect of it, at least
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: in my opinion, But there's majority we've done it to
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: ourselves exactly. It's it's organic. It's organic, dude. And like
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: that's even kind of the stuff that you know, we
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: talk about with the conspiracy community, and you know, kind
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: of even tying into that a little bit, the gross
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: amount of the the infighting and the in the bullshit
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: and the the belligerence that goes on. It's organic in
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: a lot of ways too. Man. I mean, you, we
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: as humans have psychological schemas that we have dealt with
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: since the time we've been walking upright, and we've been
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: originated as human beings, and you know, these things are
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: something that humanity struggles with, you know, and that's that
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: also comes into play here as well. I do agree
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: with you on that. I'm on that the half and half,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: but but it is there's organic instances for sure, and
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: we can't negate that.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: Well, you bring up a really good point in saying
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: because a lot of people feel like I feel like
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: that everything is just kind of rushed, Like a lot
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: of people think that their life is just over when
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: they turn thirty, like if they haven't achieved what they
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: what they're set out to achieve, like they're just not
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: going to do it by the time they're thirty. Like
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: that's the biggest lie ever, Like you don't need to
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: cram all this garbage into a very short span of time.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: You don't like you can spread it out. And I
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: think that that's been a really big problem with the
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: colleges and these people in education because they've made it
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: so expensive for people to like, let's say you wanted
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: to go be a doctor or like be a medical professional,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to be in school for at least
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: eight years. You know how much school debt you've accumulated
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: over those eight years. You're not going to pay that
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: off until you're like fifty fifty five. Some people still
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: haven't paid it off, you know. So the incentive is
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: there because they think that they have to get a
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: head start and a jump start on it because it's
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: so freaking expensive that they actually want to have some
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: kind of retirement or some kind of you know, period
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: of their life where they're not doing something they can
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: just kind of relax and like take care of their
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: family and all that. But that's been something that's been
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: been pushed by them. And also they want to get
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: their their money right. So if you go through public school,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: public school is basically free besides the lunch is you
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: got to pay for your lunch, and you know, that's
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: free education. So by then you're done with freaking you know,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: since you were if you went to preschool, you know,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: twelve years of freaking schooling from the public school system,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: like you weren't really paying them any kind of money.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: That's all government and state funded and the public school system.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: Then you got to turn around and pay them thousands
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: and thousands of dollars to get into profession, to get
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: a career. So they're like, oh, where's our money, give
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: us our money?
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: You oh it is man. And well so the other
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: thing too, you brought up, you know, the rushed thing.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: And this, I would say, is kind of like an
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: imposed norm. And this is something that happens in American
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: society quite a bit, is it's what's next. You can
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: never take the chance. Like, for instance, like you know,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: you're asked what you want to do with your life
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: when you're fucking twelve and thirteen years old. I want
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: to know what twelve or thirteen year old kid like
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: truly deep down knows exactly what they want to do
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: in life. I there's probably one or two out of
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: the you know, the whole spectrum of children that might
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: potentially have some kind of sound idea of what they
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: want to do for the rest of your life. But
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: then you know, you get out of you get out
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: of high school, it's like, oh, where you're going to
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: work or are you going to college? And then when
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: you're in college, it's like when you get in a girlfriend,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: when you're getting married, this, this, and this, it's always
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: it's always what's next, what's next, what's next, what's next,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: what's next? And you know, we as human beings don't
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: get to have the chance to. And this is something
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: I think is really big, and I'm even going to
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: kind of get into Graham Hancock about this a little bit.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: It because human beings need to be able to focus
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: on the present, like we need to be able to
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: presently know, enjoy, and appreciate where we're at. If we're
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: constantly always focused on the next thing, what this does
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: is this kind of causes a dissatisfactory detriment within our
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: mental sphere, and we're never happy. We're never We're never
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: because we're always focusing on what's next, and we always
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: think that, you know, happiness is found in what's next,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: it's never here now and a choice, I guess is
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: the best thing I can explain with that, or.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: That happiness comes from money and success means money, when
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: that's not the case. That's a complete opposite. Success means
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: that you're that you're happy with yourself, you're happy with
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: your decisions, you're happy with how far you've come. Success
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you have a lot of money, but
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: for a lot of people that's what it means. They
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: confuse being successful with money or having a high paying
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: job that's not what being successful means to me. I'm
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: sure that's not what successful means to you. Give us
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: your definition of being successful, Stephen.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: My definition of being successful would be to have a
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: nice house on a decent bit of land, living my
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: spiritually sound life where I chill in my backyard, work
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: on my garden, and play with my zen garden. That's
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: pretty fucking I know some people might look at me
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: and go, that's fucking success to you, and I'm like, absolutely, dude,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: that is fucking success to me. In my eyes. You know,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: success is having a you know, I call it a
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: spiritually sound life, but you know a lot of people
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: a happy life, one that you desire. I mean, to me,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: that's the ultimate success, man. And if there's something I've
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: seen is it's more, more money, more problems. Okay, And
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 5: like this, the more money you have, the more money
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: you're going to spend, the more issues that are going
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 5: to arise from that. And you know it's a very again,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: it's that dissatisfactory mentality. You're placing your happiness on physical
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: and material objects. I really like that if you can't
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: find happiness within, you won't find it without. That's a
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: good one, Tim, thanks for that. And but you know,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: I'll digress, and I'll say, you can't have that dissatisfactory mindset,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: you you, Nina, we all want backyards with zen gardens.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: A lot of us do that. That's a good thing
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: to have. And uh, but again, man, like, you can't
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: always be looking you know, you can't also define yourself
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: from the expectation of others. I think this is this
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: is something that you know happens in American society a
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: lot is we live on a lot of other people's
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: expectations and this also destroys our authenticity, you know, and
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: who we are and what we truly appreciate in life
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: as well. And you know, constantly thinking success is around
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: the corner and not within your control at this point
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: in time, I think is one of the biggest things
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 5: that we we as a society have to understand. And
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: you know, success is within our reach. I mean my
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: of course, you know, my definition of success might not
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 5: be yours, writer, or it might not be anybody else's
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: in the chat, but that's what success is to me.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: And that's me tapping into my authenticity and being like, yeah,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't need a mansion like you know,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 5: a nice you know, I'll say, like two thousand square
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 5: foot home on a on a plot of land with
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: my zen garden. Yeah, it can even be single level.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: I don't need to don't even need it to be
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: three levels, you know what I mean? Self frick And
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: it's it's like, it's it's you know, it's definitely you know.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: And that's that's part of the thing we have to
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: do as Americans, and at least in this society. I'll digress,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: and I'll say this is that you have to find
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: your own meaning of success, your own meaning of happiness.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: If you are writing on the expectations of others and
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: you're destroying your authentic self and the process, you're going
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: to constantly be miserable. You're never going to be happy,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 5: and you're you're you're always going to be looking for
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: the next best thing. And you don't want to be there,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 5: my friends, because I know people who are there, and
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 5: I feel really fucking bad for them at this point
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: in time.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And a lot of that comes from, you know,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: stamping down that that authenticity very young and hitting you
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: with a traumatic thing or being made fun of when
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: you're really young for being your true authentic self and
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: getting put on some kind of medication because your teachers
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: think that you're some kind of unruly kid when you're
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: just being a kid. You know, let kids be freaking
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: kids like that. That's what they are.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: Any other expectation you have from them is not correct.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: They are kids. They're kids, and they're going to do
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: kid things. Okay, you can't be mad at kids for
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: being kids. It's like being mad at a dog for
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: being a dog. The dog rights. You can't be mad
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: at the dog. A dog's a freaking dog. Bro. But
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: seventy percent of you know, when I'm talking about you know,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: pharmaceutical medications here and putting children on pharmaceutical medications, seventy
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: percent of the adults in the US are on at
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: least one pharmaceutical medication, forty percent or on two or
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: more pharmaceutical medications, and half the population with all genders
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: and ethnicities.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: All combined, are on some form.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: Of pharmaceutical medication. And also, annually in the US, twice
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: as many people die of overdoses than the Afghanistan War,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: the freaking Vietnam War, and the Iraq War all put together.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that one more thing annually, meaning yearly
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: in the United States twice as many people die of overdoses.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: Then the Afghanistan.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: War, the Vietnam War, and the Iraq.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: War put together, and mental illness comes along with that
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: illness and mental health problems. We've seen a steady rise
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: for years and years and years now. Mental health gets
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: worse every single year, and particularly pertaining to children, children
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: have been on the rises, I mean many mental health problems.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: And listen, the statistics, don't want and those are the statistics.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: And something is wrong with our culture on a fundamental level.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: When you look at all the things that I just said,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: you couple that with the obesity rate that we've already
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: talked about, something is horribly wrong. Something somewhere got really
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: screwed up along the way.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: Oh, I would agree, And I think I think, you know,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: kind of touching based on what you said in the
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 5: beginning a little bit. You notice how when we're growing up,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: they they always tell us to be unique, be creative,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 5: and all of this stuff, and we get slapped down
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: for it like it's it's it's at least when you
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: know you and I were growing up as kids, we're
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: about the same age. You know, one thing that was
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 5: constantly kind of you know, pushed on us is to
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: be unique, be yourself, be creative. But you know, when
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 5: we would we would be this way, we would constantly
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: get shipped for it, whether it was you know, we
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: were bullied by other kids, or we were told bullied,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: or you know, other adults tend issue with it. And
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: it seems like now that it's that's not really what
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: they want you to do. They want you to keep
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: your head down a phone line. I mean, that's exactly.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: And yes, pharmaceutical medications man, And I think what was
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: that Nina said that drugs are the real epidemic. I
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 5: was looking in the comments. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: go ahead and agree with that. And what I really
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: think kind of happened with the whole shift and mentality
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 5: towards health, at least in that aspect. A lot of people,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: you know, talk about the Rockefeller campaign with the petroleum
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: based pharmaceuticals, you know, whether or not that's been entirely substantiated.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 5: What we do sees at the turn of the twentieth century,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: we see a lot of natural medicines that were used
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: in the pharmacopeia for many, many, I'll say, I'll even
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: go on women say thousands of years were then labeled
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: as alternative and as something that was secondary, as opposed
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 5: to pharmaceutical medications, which are now considered the primary route
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: of treatment. And you know, the thing about pharmaceutical medications,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: and you know, I feel like a lot of people
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: have heard this, but I'll bring it up at least
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: this one time, is that you got a cure for
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: one ailment, but it comes with thirty other side effects,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: and you know, then you start taking these other medications
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: to alleviate the side effects, and then those medications have
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: side effects, and then.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Before you know, you're on fifteen different.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 5: Medications exactly exactly. I think due to a lot of
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: conditioning that happened at the turn of the century. One
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 5: thing that's happened is we've been conditioned to think a
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: lot of things are hyper complex, you know, especially in
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 5: the area of health. You know, when it comes to
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: this and stuff like that. We've been conditioned to think
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: that our health is so hyper complex, we don't know
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: anything about it more than these doctors and these scientists.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: So we're going to hand over you know, our at
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: least in that aspect I'll say sovereignty. We're going to
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: hand over our sovereignty to these doctors and scientists because
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: our health is so hyper complex, you know, we we
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: we don't know how to take care of it our own,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: when in all reality, it's actually quite simple, and it's
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 5: quite simple to be healthy. It's quite simple to take
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 5: care of your health. It's just a matter of having
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: the will to do so and not having other people
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 5: do the thinking for you. And I mean you kind
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: of take a look at a lot of the stuff
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 5: we've talked about in this episode. Man, you know, you
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 5: couple the very spread thin lifestyle, you couple the oxymoronic
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: norms and stereotypes the way we are to each other
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 5: as humans in general, that breeds addiction, you know, when
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 5: you have There was a huge study, and this is
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 5: actually a well known study, man, you might know this.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 5: So they had these rats and they did a study
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: with drugs with them. And what they did is they
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 5: took one set of rats and they put them in
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 5: this very hyper cramped, really fucked up environment and I
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 5: mean like not a good environment for a rat. I
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: mean it was. And so they had two water bottles.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: They had one that was water and sugar, and then
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 5: they had one that was water and cocaine. Well onont
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 5: you know, when the rats were in this real fucked
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: up environment, in this real fucked up predicament, they were
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 5: chugged down that water in cocaine. Dude, they were they
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: were all about it. And then what they did is,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: after a little bit of this, they took this very
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: same rats and they put them in this very nice environment.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 5: They put it very nice, very open, very spacious. I'm
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: sure they had a couple of little wheels they could
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 5: run on to burn off their energy, lots of food,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 5: lots of things to entertain themselves with. And man, would
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: you know that within a day of doing this, the
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 5: rats stopped drinking the cocaine water completely and they moved
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: into just drinking the sugar water. So I think this
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 5: scientific experiment it can kind of lay out what's going
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: on here, I mean, at least a little bit when
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 5: it comes to human society in the aspect of drugs.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: You know, that.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: Experiment was called the rat park, I believe.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: Is the rap park.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: It was called, Yeah, And that tells you a lot
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: about people's environment, like how big environments play a role
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: in people's mental health. In there and also trickling down
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: into their physical health as well.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, man, And that's kind of the case and point here.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: You know, we look at the current environment of especially
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 5: our country where we're at, and I know Shane feels
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: it where he's at too, up north, and you know,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 5: we're looking at uh, you know, these predicaments and this,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: this explains a lot of it, Man, explains the hyperfixation
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 5: on drugs. It explains the you know, the the attitude
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 5: towards it. I mean, people just want to be I mean,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 5: especially you know, I the whole fentanyl thing too. Man,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 5: that's a you know, a part of me wants to
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: think that's a little bit organic. But somebody who has
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 5: the history with drugs that I do, I'm a recovering
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: opiate addict. Don't worry. I've been recovered for a long time.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: I'm doing real good. We're talking about a decade plus
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 5: at this point, almost two decades of not touching that shit.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 5: So but you know, for me and what I know
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 5: about that, the nightazines and fence andyl man, that those
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: should not be out on the streets because if you
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 5: if you know what they are, I mean, we're talking
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 5: about opiates that are meant to take down elephants. Okay,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: we are talking about drugs that are meant to take
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 5: down like nine hundred pound animals, Okay, that have now
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 5: now started to circulate in the streets. And that uh
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 5: thanks for the wrap Park article. Man, I appreciate that writer,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: but freaking but but that that that to me, that
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: instance is an interesting one because you know, I I'll
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 5: never say that I am a master in pharmaceuticals or pharmacology,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 5: but you know, it was something I did want to
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 5: pursue pharmacology and things like that when I was a
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: younger child, because you know, I used to research all
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 5: the drugs I would put in my body in what
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 5: they did. And but yeah, man, like even the whole
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 5: thing with the the ninazines and the fentanyl hitting the streets,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: that's just a very weird thing to me.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: Well that's the problem too, is the finanyl is a
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: white powder, and it can be disguised as whatever. It
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: can be in your cocaine, it can be in your pills,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: you know, the street pills people are selling. You can
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: go get a you know, you think that you're getting
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: some pain medication and it's not in the super high
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: dose of fentanyl and you just die. Even blood pressure pills,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, shoot, dude, and benzos, the press pills, like
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: they're just pressing finanyl and putting finnyl in everything. They're
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: putting it in the mouth. And the cocaine. It's just
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: gotten wild and it's so so concentrated in there that
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: you just don't know what you're getting and you do
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: a little bit of it and you're gone. You know,
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: that's happened in sixty What blows my mind, Stephen, is
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: that sixteen thousand people a year. That's the rough estimate
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: of people that die of overdoses in the United States.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: If that was anything else, if that was anything else,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: let's say a freaking well we did go to war
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: over the Taliban, but a random organization, If a random organization,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: let's say freaking cocoa pebbles was killing sixteen thousand people.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 5: A year, we'd be hearing something about it.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: They would do something about that. That would be it
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: would be instantly gone, like that completely. But it's not.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: Because there's so much money that's being made off of
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: illegal drugs. That's why they're still illegal. That's why that
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: all this stuff is happening. Is because there's a lot
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: of money that's being generated from it.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: Well you know the thing about like I was kind
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 5: of then there's so yes, there's the thing. There's there's
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: some organic instance to this, because this is the one
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 5: thing I'll add. Human beings have been taking drugs and
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: ingesting substances for I think in recorded history now at
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 5: this point where like at the eighty thousand year mark,
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, we've been we've been We've been taking drugs
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: and drinking alcohol for a very long fucking time. So,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: like I mean, humans are always going to want to
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 5: do drugs. It's just a human thing. You know, whether
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: they move they stay in the soft drug department, like
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 5: with cannabis, a little bit of alcohol are in there,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: some psychedelics here and there, and that's one thing, or
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: they move into the hard drug department, which you know
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 5: some people do that that portion of it, it's that
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 5: portion of it's really hard for me to say it
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 5: could be organic, especially with the fentanyl and the ninazines,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: like you know, I mean, like I said, we're talking
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 5: about opiates that are meant to take down nine hundred
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 5: plus pound animals, dude, that are circulating in the streets
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 5: right now. Like I remember too when they they brought
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 5: it up. There was a little new snippet I saw
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 5: on X like probably like a year ago. And I
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 5: agree with you, Fireflies in the Lighthouse. I'm pretty much
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 5: sober for the most part myself. I don't really. I mean,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: I have a glass of the wine I drink to
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 5: try it and that's it. And I occasionally take a
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 5: bull hit in the evenings. That's pretty much all I do.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: But but like I was saying, man, you know, like
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: when I saw the new snippet freaking come out about
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 5: the ninazines, I knew immediately what they are, and I'm like,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 5: why the fuck is this out on the street, Like
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: like why we were looking at this shit back in
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: the early two thousands on research chemical websites and it
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: had giant warning symbols all over it that was like,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: do not take this. This is not for human consumption.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 5: And like, so I mean with you know the we
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: know the illegal drug trade is a big money maker.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: I mean you know that that's also too. Where it
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: comes down into playwriter, I think, is I you know,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 5: when whether we the government does profit off llegal drugs,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 5: whether it's through the prison system, whether it's through leaking
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 5: certain kinds of compounds onto the street. Uh you know,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 5: we we do know the we. I mean, let's talk
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: about the whole cracket academic in the epidemic in the
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 5: early eighties, you know, and how the CIA was involved
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: with that too. I mean, so like again, like you know,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 5: there there is in.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: The heroin trade during Vietnam.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 5: Like exactly so wild, bro exactly man so wild.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: And there's no other explanation for it than I don't know.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: I don't really want to go there with it. But
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: it's like, why why would they want to put this
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: thing that can kill you unless there's an agenda behind
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: you know where I'm going with it, I don't say,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: But there's an agenda behind that, because there there's no
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: other explanation. Why would you want to put something that
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: can kill you into cocaine, which cocaine is supposed to
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: do the opposite of kill you, supposed to pick you
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: up and make you, you know, excited and get a
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: little wild or whatever, have a good time, yeah, or
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: something like that. Terry Crews you turn into Terry Crews
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: real quick. But like, why would they put that in there?
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: And there's only another one explanation that it's an agenda,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: And that's all that I'm going to say about it, because.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 5: You know, I know we don't have we don't have proof,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: you know, but I'm with you on that. But no,
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 5: and that's the same thing as it like like do
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: like you know, the thing with drugs is you want
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: repeat customers.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 9: Like you want you want to like you want you
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 9: want them to come back and buy more drugs. And
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 9: it's like, like, why why are you going to put
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 9: something in there that makes it so you don't know
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 9: if they're gonna.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: Come back and buy more drugs from you? And I
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: And I'm with you on that, man, And part of me,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 5: even though I'm speculating on this, I do think it's
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: some kind of weird form of population control. I do.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: And the reason why I think that, and that's my
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: theory is because if you look at the population, it's
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 5: affecting what they call the undesirables, the homeless people, a
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: lot of the low income people that it's affecting and
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 5: that are losing their lives because of this stuff. And
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 5: like you know, and I'm with you on that, man,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: Like I said, you know, like we we don't have
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: any hard evidence, but when you look at the fact
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: that we have things that are meant to knock out
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 5: nine hundred plus pound animals flooding around the streets. Man',
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 5: that's a weird thing to look at.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: Sounds like an agenda to me. And then when you're
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: bringing up the crack academic too, I think that that
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: was put there for the distraction of the nuclear family.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: I think that that's what that whole thing was set
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: up to do. It was to split apart the African
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: American communities, you know, make it to where they can't
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: do anything about their situations. They have to live in
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: squalor and live in the hood and keep living in
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: the hood, and they don't see any way out. So
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: they made it to where the the men you know,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: would rather chase this drug than take care of their.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Family or take care of their wife or their girlfriend
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: And that trickled and rippled out into you know, other
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: communities as well. Now it's just a full fledged, like
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: nobody's safe type of scenario. Doesn't matter where you come from,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you're in a super rich, well off
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: family or you know someone. I think every single person
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: at least knows somebody that's dyed from an overdose. That
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: is a wild statistic.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: Dude, I beg shit, man, So back I lost I
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 5: lost a friend of mine from high school back in
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: twenty nineteen. And you want to know what's funny is
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 5: he was the clean cut kid in high school. He
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: used to give us shit all the time for like
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: drinking beers and smoking weed, and like, you know, we
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 5: used to like kind of give him shit for that. Man.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 5: But then I got a call from an old buddy
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 5: of mine, you know, like Brent died from a fentanyl overdose.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 5: And I'm like what what? And I'm like, Brent, clean cut,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 5: Brent like fucking went to church every Sunday, like freaking
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 5: gave us shit for partying. That kid died from a
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 5: fentanyl overdose. So you're absolutely right, man, like it. There's
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 5: there's no discrimination, you know when it comes to experiencing this,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: you know, and for the people who has for the
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: people who it has a effect, did I mean? It's yeah.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: I can think of at least three people I know
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: off the top of my head that have died from
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: overdoses one hundred percent. Man. And it's it's sad when
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: you think about it, because you know, I mean I
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 5: saw someone in the comments earlier say like, you know
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 5: what happened to good old heroin. But at the same time, dude,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 5: like you had to really try to od off heroin,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 5: you know, like with with fentanyl, you're literally it's like
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 5: it's not even about getting hig anymore. Dude, It's like,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: let's go play Russian roulette. We might die today or
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 5: we might get high. You know. That's kind of a
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: where it's all come down to, man. And you know,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 5: even drawing back to the you know, the the rat
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 5: experiment I was talking about, man, I mean, it kind
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: of sums it up perfectly that you know, we're not
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: in the best mentally sound environment that we should be.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: And not only that that out of the sixteen thousand
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: people that die every year of of overdoses, that's just
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: not sixteen thousand people that's lost, Like you could probably.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: Double or triple that amount.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: Of lives that it affected because all those people had friends,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: they all had family, they all had loved ones, A
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: lot of them probably had kids. So not only are
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: they no longer here, it is a negatively affected all
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: of those people's friends and family as well. So it's
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: not just those people that are affected. It's like this
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: whole network of people that it's also negatively affecting.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 5: And that's and that's where it's like, you know, a
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 5: lot of people say drug use is a victim's crime,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 5: and I'd say that's a half truth, half true statement,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 5: because when we're talking about alcohol has its victims, don't
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 5: get me wrong, but the the the there're certain ones.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'll say, I mean cannabis, like, you can't
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: abuse cannabis, and you can and it can make you worthless.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: All one hundred percent agree that. I would agree with that.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: I do think people lift it up a little too
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: much and try to make it seem like it has
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: no cons to it. But yes, if you abuse it,
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: it'll make you worthless, it'll make you unmotivated. But as
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 5: far as taking your own life, taking your life and
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 5: affecting the life of your family and friends, it's not
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 5: going to do that. I mean. But you know, like
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 5: when we look at these hard drugs, you know, like
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 5: we're talking about and they're not victims crimes because on
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 5: the person ods I mean, like somebody said in the comments,
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: you are the victim. And on top of that too, dude,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: you just cut off your time with your family. You
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 5: just cut off your time with your friends, people who
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: love you like you know, and and it's it's that
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 5: in and of itself. Man, Like you said, like you know,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: you said sixteen thousand people, I mean, we could even
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 5: guestimate that somewhere around sixty to eighty thousand have been
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: affected in totality from that, if you know, we're talking
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 5: about family members and friends groups and things like that. Man,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: It's it's a tragic thing, you know. And I could
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: have ended up there. And yes, the od's are from
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: the fake pills, Tim, They're from the fake roxies that
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 5: people think are real but they're not, you know, But
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 5: it is, man, it's sad. And that's why, man, Honestly,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 5: one of the biggest reasons I'm big into self help,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 5: you know, like and trying to change the game on
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 5: that a little bit and by living it, dude, Like
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 5: I said, I'm up at three o'clock in the morning,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 5: I'm at the gym by three thirty four am. Every
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 5: day I come home, I meditate, I freaking you know,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: try to try to live a very positive, healthy life,
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: and you know, I try to show people that it's
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 5: possible dude, like it's it's it's not something impossible, you know,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 5: And I think that maybe you know, and this is
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 5: something that's they say it is, and in ways it is,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 5: but in ways it's not happening way i'd like to
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: see it per se. They say mental health is becoming
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 5: a bigger priority here, but in some ways it is.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: In some ways it's not, because a lot of the
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 5: things that are still affecting our mental health as humans,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 5: you know, uh, they're they're still here and we're still
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 5: dealing with them. And I'm like, yeah, they might have
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 5: given us more resources. They might have given us like
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 5: things like betterhelp dot com or you know, more places
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: to go talk to people, but as far as having
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 5: a mental mentally sound environment overall for the human population,
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: we don't have that. And that's where I kind of
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 5: bring up this one. I don't know. I don't know
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 5: if you're a Graham Hancock fan, but in his early
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 5: days when I was a fan of him, he had
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 5: a band ted talk called The War Unconsciousness, and if
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 5: you ever get the chance to watch it, it's a
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 5: great one. I don't know if you can still find it,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 5: but you know, he talked about and also to the
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 5: the hyper productivity in the workaholism that's placed upon us
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: And that's another addiction, dude, that people don't even realize,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: Like workaholic is an addiction, going to the gym can
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: be an addiction. Shopping is an addiction, Gambling is an addiction.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: It's not it's not even just a drug addiction that
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: is a price. It's like, there's so many other addictions
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: that people don't even realize that they're even addicted to.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean, body dysmorphia is a real thing.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, people got people get like you know, I mean,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 5: I can't tell you how many people I like, I'll
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 5: be working out. I mean one of the things you
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 5: got to do to beat that is, you know, self
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 5: love and just understand that you're you're being the best
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 5: version of yourself and you know, to compare yourself to
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 5: anybody else. That's kind of be the thief of joy
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 5: at least in that endeavor. But you know, it.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: Sounds like a healthy addiction.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 5: Off the hook, Off the hook, bro off the hook, man,
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 5: But no, it is man too. Like when you know,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 5: Graham was saying how we needed these periods of unpredicted productivity.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 5: We need these periods of creativeness, you know, to explore
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 5: our creative you know, faculties in our mind, you know,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 5: explore ourselves in that manner in order to be truly
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 5: happy in healthy human beings. And that's something I'm still
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 5: not seeing a lot of just quite yet, you know, like,
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 5: and that's why, Like I don't know if you've ever
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 5: seen the documentary with the Blue Zones, you know, where
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 5: they talk about longevity. It's on Amazon Prime ifrom correct.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 5: I got to think of the name of it, and
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 5: I'll get to you. But you know, they go to
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 5: a lot of these Blue Zones around the world where
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 5: they they see these extreme cases of longevity, people living
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 5: to be like one hundred and ten, one hundred and twenty,
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 5: like straight looking up like almost a little bit older
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 5: than you and I still thinking, straight, still walking, like
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 5: all of their wits about them at one hundred and ten,
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty years old, things like that. And
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 5: one of their biggest things is mentality on work that
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 5: contributes to their longevity too. So they'll get up real
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 5: early and they'll work from like five to new and
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 5: then they'll take the rest of the day off and
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: they're allowed to at that point, they're allowed to go,
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 5: you know it explore their creative pursuits, you know, any
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 5: kind of hobbies they might have, you know, or they
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 5: can spend time with their family, whatever works for him.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 5: But this is kind of the way it's set up
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 5: in these blue zones, and I personally think that's that's
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 5: something we can take and use as a model in
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 5: order to help kind of fix a lot of the
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 5: mental health issues that we have in our society day.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 5: Because it don't get me wrong, man, like hard work's
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 5: good for you. It is like it builds discipline and
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 5: builds character, and you know, it helps you learn how
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 5: to support yourself and like, you know, be a self
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 5: sustainable human being. But it's the it's all about balance,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And that's one thing we
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 5: can we can say about a lot of things, is
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 5: a lot of things have fallen out of balance, you know. So,
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 5: like I mean, I was stoked here. I mean, they're
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 5: doing it in Golden they haven't implemented it Colorado wide,
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 5: but they're they're testing out the four day work week
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 5: in Golden, Colorado right now, and apparently it's getting really
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 5: good feedback and really good results, and it's like I'm like, okay, so,
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 5: like what are we gonna When are we going to
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 5: move it on to the rest of Colorado at this point,
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 5: because you know, we're seeing a lot of positive feedback
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 5: from this test run, and you know, people are happier,
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 5: like they're in getting more time to explore themselves, their
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 5: relationships there, you know, creative pursuits, their hobbies in life,
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 5: and they're more energized and ready to go to work
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 5: when they go back to work because you just gave
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 5: them that extra day off to where they could do
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 5: all of that. Now they're like okay, cool man, Like
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 5: I can go back and I can work harder now,
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 5: like you know, I feel like I want to go
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 5: to work and things like that. Man. It's it's all
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 5: about just just you know, understanding the condition that we're in,
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 5: and I mean, you know we're we're imposed by pretty
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 5: much every single avenue that you know, we got to Like, dude,
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 5: have you ever noticed that they they they literally put
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 5: the the most overworked, like sick and tired people on
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 5: a pedestal in the society. If if this, if this
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 5: person worked one hundred hours, bro, They're gonna put you
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 5: in a throne. They're gonna give you a crown. You know, dude,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 5: if anybody's ever worked a hundred hour week, you know
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 5: how brutally, I've done it like twice in this scope
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 5: of my like almost now set of seventeen year career
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 5: as an electrician, I've done it twice. And dude, you
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 5: are fucked up after that. You're worthless, like you, I mean, yeah,
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 5: you got all this money, but with the you're too
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 5: fucking exhausted to to fucking go do anything with it,
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 5: or you know, or go spend it. But like, these
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 5: are the people that they put on the pedestal. Man.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 5: Oh and then you know.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: You gotta be like this guy. You gotta work yourself
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: to death every single.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 5: Week, bro, dude. And the other thing too, it's like, go.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: On in him a ploque. He's employee of the.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 5: Month exactly, man. And then you have and the other
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 5: thing too is like again the organic instances is we
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 5: in the humans and the collective we perpetuated. Dude. We
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 5: start bragging to each other, but how many hours we worked?
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 5: Oh well I worked, you know, seventy hours last week?
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well I worked eighty. And it's like it's
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 5: this fucking pissing contest competition, you know, when it when
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 5: it comes down to at least I mean, I've seen
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 5: it in my line of work, and I've seen in
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 5: other people's want to work too.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 5: It's like like the more you work, like the more,
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 5: the more, the better you are. Like, oh, you just
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 5: worked a forty hour week. Fuck you, like you ain't shit,
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 5: that's a part time job. And that's like the mentality
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 5: with like a lot of people, you know, when it
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 5: comes to that what we were talking about.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: Especially in laboring labor jobs, Like that's the way that
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: it goes, you know, in construction working and like you know,
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: manual laborer jobs.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: That's the type of rhetoric that you get.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: If you're not putting in at least sixty hours a week,
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: then you're a loser.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's like it's like dude, like especially like
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 5: you know, like cause before I got into being an electrician,
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 5: I worked those fucking jobs. And you know, I'll tell
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 5: you what did you do in sixty hours a week?
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 5: Freaking as a mason, hauling fucking block freaking hauling bags
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 5: of gravel, wheelbarrels of cement, digging holes for sixty fucking
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 5: hours a week. Dude, Yeah, you're you're you're not going
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 5: to be feeling too good after about a couple of
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 5: months of doing that, you're and you're not. And the
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 5: people that say they don't not feel good are fucking
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 5: lying about it. They're they're fucking lying about it. They
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 5: are like, dude, I'm I'm in pretty good physical condition,
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 5: but doing shit like that for sixty hours a week, bro,
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 5: I'd be dead, like I you know, I I'd be dead.
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 5: So that that's also too man, you know, like the
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 5: rhetoric that kind of gets thrown around when it comes
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 5: to that, and you know even that, I mean, dude,
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 5: in the trades, bro drug addictions rampant. I can't tell
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 5: you how many people that I've worked with, BROB walked
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 5: in on my form men and my super doing cocaine
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 5: off a prince table okay like freaking like a pay
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 5: where they were reading blueprints. I walked in, saw I
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 5: was a gone, immediately said what I saw what was
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 5: going on? Immediately said I saw nothing and.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 10: Turned around and walking the bunk out like I was
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 10: like holy shit, like did I just see that? But
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 10: like it is, man, it gets you know even alcohol, like,
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 10: you know, alcohol even you know, going back to Graham
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 10: Hancock's band Ted talk, this society tolerates drunkenness, but that's
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 10: pretty much all it'll do.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 5: And it doesn't even tolerate it at a you know,
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 5: at a level where you know, getting sloshed is acceptable,
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 5: but you know you want to go home. I mean, dude,
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 5: I can't tell you how many people like I I've
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 5: worked and you know, i'd be working on a job
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 5: or I'm working on a homeowner's home and they're like,
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 5: you want a beer. I won't tell anybody. And I'm
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 5: like fucking looking. It's like fucking eleven o'clock in the morning,
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 5: Like dude, what like, no, I'm good, thank you. I
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 5: I I appreciate it, thank you, and uh, you know.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 5: But but that that norm right there with alcohol. And
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 5: that's the thing, man. You know, for a lot of
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 5: you know, recovering addicts who are we're addicted to alcohol,
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 5: and I feel for them because the ship's in your
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 5: face all the time, Like and.
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  Speaker 2: You get hit with commercials at the grocery store, you like,
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: people asking.
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  Speaker 1: You to go out and do things.
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  Speaker 2: It's wild.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel really bad, really bad for.
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  Speaker 2: Them as well. And I think that that is that
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 2: type of industry has created the the weekend warrior type
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: of mentality. You know, can't wait until Friday so I
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: can go drink and just smash with my friends until Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: What I mean.
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  Speaker 2: It's created that kind of like that kind of culture.
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  Speaker 5: And dude, that I ain't no way you want to live, man,
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 5: for for somebody who who lived it and who did
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  Speaker 5: do that. Ship, Man, I ain't know where you want
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  Speaker 5: to live, man, because like it's it's just yeah, instant gratification,
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 5: dopamine releases. That's pretty much what you fill your weekend with.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 5: Its instant gratification, uh, dopamine releases. And you know, like
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 5: if you're having you know, I mean, I'm not I'm
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 5: not a hater on sex, but if you're having promiscuous
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 5: sex with all fucking kinds of people too, you know,
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 5: and all that, like that's that's not good for for
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 5: you as well. I know some people might give me
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 5: ship for saying that, but it is, you know, and
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 5: and that's kind of what what you know that that's
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 5: the lifestyle that a lot of these people live. Man.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 5: They work freaking hard weeks, They go out and they
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 5: they they get you know, eight balls and hookers and
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 5: fucking bottles at the club Saturday and fucking the Martian
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 5: hookers too. That's the upgraded that's the upgraded level of
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 5: of hooker nowadays, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: But Bro, they got a whole red light district on Mars. Bro,
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  Speaker 2: you didn't know.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's I'm telling you, Bro, it's like that though, man,
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 5: And it is, and I mean and it is. All
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  Speaker 5: you're doing is pissing your life down the drain. And
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  Speaker 5: uh yeah, and as somebody who used to live and
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you, and that's what you're doing, man, Like,
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 5: you know, go fucking go outside like you know, you
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 5: have two days off, go outside, go spend time and
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  Speaker 5: nature like you know, or go do something you haven't
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 5: done before. You have a kayak, you haven't paddle boarded,
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 5: or you haven't rode the mountain coaster an sts fucking park,
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 5: which I highly suggest. All you do is fun of shit,
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 5: but I mean you haven't you haven't done any of
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 5: that stuff. Like, go do something you haven't done, man, like,
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 5: go crave experience, go crave life. I mean, I know,
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 5: if it's it's tough, you know because you feel so exhausted.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 5: But dude, get yourself up and do it. You'll thank
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 5: yourself for it and it'll get you out of the
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 5: swing of living that way.
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  Speaker 2: Bro, we have all of the information in the world
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  Speaker 2: at our fingertips. How anybody is bored is beyond me.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: How is anybody bored? You should never be bored. We
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 2: have never lived in a time like this in the
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: history of the world.
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  Speaker 1: Never has it ever been like this.
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  Speaker 2: And people should embrace that and just research. Look into
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: something whatever tickles your fancy, look into it and figure
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: it out. I mean, you have literally all of it
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: at your fingertips. We no longer have to go to
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: a library to learn something new. We don't have to
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 2: go to a library and read and we can't find it,
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: and then we asked the librarian, and then the library
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: and says, oh, maybe it's over there, and then you
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 2: spend three or four hours looking for the thing that
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: you want to find out. You know, you no longer
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: have to hope that somebody knows about something. You can
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: just look it up now.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 5: I did I joke like this because like even with
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 5: like you know, like spiritual reading material, like I kind
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 5: of use the same analogy. It's not like back in
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 5: the old days where you had to get on a
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 5: boat voyage that would like last a month and then
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 5: like you'd get to the plateau, then you had to
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 5: hike up this giant, you know, twenty thousand foot tall
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 5: peak just to get to this monastery just to look
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 5: at this one and one like scroll or just to
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 5: look at this one book. Like you're absolutely right, man,
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 5: we have all of the we live in a day
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 5: and age, you know where we have all of this
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  Speaker 5: and our fingertips and you know, there's and I agree
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 5: with you. I don't understand how other people could be bored,
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 5: you know, especially doing what we do. And I mean
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 5: it's it's all about though I think it also destroys
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 5: the will of human beings, like you know, I mean
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 5: we look at you know, there's a huge mental thing
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 5: that takes place, you know, with a lot of stuff
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 5: or a lot of what I would call the scientific
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 5: theories in the mainstream. I mean there's a psychological effect.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 5: I mean you tell people that you know, when I'm
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 5: not disagreeing with this, I mean this very well could
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 5: be the case, but this is what it does to
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 5: a population mentally you tell people that they're on this
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 5: little tiny blue rock floating through this abyss and their
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 5: existence is coincidental and by chance. And you you sit
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 5: there and you make this the norm. You make this
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 5: what a lot of people think. And what this does
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 5: is this kind of plays on the psychological faculties of
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 5: the human being. And you have almost this rise of nihilism,
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 5: which you know, we all go through our nihilistic phase. Like,
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, like it's it's a phase though,
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 5: like you're not you buy a plane ticket there, you
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 5: buy or you know, you you you buy a time
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 5: share there. You don't. You don't stay there like you know,
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 5: you go visit and you're you're like cool, like you know,
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 5: this was okay, I needed this. I'll move on to
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 5: the next thing. But but you don't. You don't buy
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 5: a home there, and you don't you know, at least
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 5: in my opinion. But but what that does, man, is
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 5: it caused this rise of nihilism. And I almost call
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 5: it it's almost like almost a negative form of it,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 5: like because you know, nihilism can have a positive aspect
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 5: to it, don't get me wrong, but it's almost like
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 5: a negative form of it. And it causes the mentality
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 5: of people, you know, like well, like I don't have
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 5: to you know, my life is meaningless, or you know,
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 5: my life is by coincidence or by chance. I don't
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 5: need to live it the way people are telling me
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 5: to or the way that I should feel. And you
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 5: know that's also something that you know, we encounter today.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 5: You know, we have almost this negative form of nihilism
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 5: that's kind of started to showcase itself in people, which
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 5: could definitely explain if that is what's going on when
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 5: a lot of these behaviors that people are experiencing as well.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: I agree, absolutely, nihilism has become a really big quality
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: within the community. I've spoken about it so many times,
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: and it's really wrecked people's a way of bettering anything
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: or creating any positive outcome for everything, because it's all
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: just you know, we should just give up and not
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 2: do anything, you know, like things are going to happen
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: no matter what, Like the call is going to come
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 2: in and do whatever they want. Like no, that's not
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 2: the way that it works, like, but that's really hit
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: the community hard. But I think this is a really
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: good point to wrap it up. Thanks so much, Steven,
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 2: appreciate your time this evening. Man, can you let people
• 2:13:40
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• 2:13:42
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• 2:14:31
  Speaker 5: being on your show for the first time. Man, I
• 2:14:32
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• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: And appreciate it. I would like to talk to you longer,
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: but I really got a freaking pee dude.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 5: It's okay, I got to get to bed. That's totally understanding.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks everyone for being here in the chat. I
• 2:14:44
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