Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Sheri Few: ChatGPT Helping Kids Transition Behind Parents’ Backs?
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- 0:00Hey friends, welcome. Very important topic today. Parents, if you've got kids in school,
- 0:05perk up. Listen to this. A recent investigation has revealed that OpenAI's chat GPT has provided
- 0:13guidance to minors as young as 12 and 14 on how to obtain gender affirming products and
- 0:21services without parental knowledge, that's next. Welcome to World View Matters, discussing
- 0:31controversial issues, discerning current events, defending biblical Christianity. No topic off
- 0:40limits. And now, here's your host, David Fierrozzo. Alright family and Christ, this is a very
- 0:47important topic. We've got Sherry Fiew back with us. She is the president and founder of United States
- 0:54Parents Involved in Education. It's uspi.org. Very important website. You're going to need to know uspi.org. Sherry,
- 1:05welcome back to World View Matters. Good to see you. Thank you David. I appreciate you having me
- 1:10back on. Yes, good to hear from you again and get an update on some of this. I don't know whether
- 1:16to shake my head or scratch my head or just throw something against the wall when I hear stories
- 1:20like this. But before we get into that and what's going on, you've got a new podcast called Unmasking
- 1:27Government Schools with Sherry Fiew. How can people watch it and listen to it, tell us about it.
- 1:34Hey, so I appreciate you bringing that up. Yes, our podcast began in January, so it is fairly new.
- 1:40And you can go to our website, which you mentioned earlier, is uspi.org. And you can find it on the
- 1:48podcast tab and you can listen through podcasts, Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. So we have some
- 1:56really exciting traveling though, guest on the show, some really high profile issues that are
- 2:05affecting parents and children across the country. And what's so sad about this is there's so
- 2:11much material to cover that it's just never ending with the drama we're seeing. And really,
- 2:18quite frankly, David, it's evil that's happening in government schools. And that's what we discuss
- 2:22on the podcast. Yes, agree. It is evil. So what would you say? I wasn't planning on asking you
- 2:30this, but what would you say to some people that might lean a little naive, thinking that because
- 2:35the Trump administration is doing some great things and they're trying to quote dismantle or
- 2:41restructure the Department of Education, there's not as much to worry about then. Schools are doing
- 2:47better. They're more safe and they don't realize how deeply entrenched the evil, the radical
- 2:54ideologies are. How do you respond to someone like that? Well, I think that's a valid concern. There
- 3:00are many people that have become complacent because the President Trump has issued several executive
- 3:07orders. He's taken action. But the problem is the liberal leftists and the eduocrats, as I like to
- 3:13call them, have doubled down and they are just entrenched and they're finding ways around the
- 3:21executive orders. They're defying executive orders. We've seen news stories, of course, in higher ed
- 3:27where the President threatened to withhold funding and California in response filed a lawsuit
- 3:35against the federal government. And so there's a battle going on. And the battle has been raging
- 3:41for some time, but it is ongoing and they're not giving in. They're finding, like I said, ways
- 3:48around the executive orders, the laws. They're outright violating federal law. And until there's
- 3:56some real adjudication of these issues, I think it will continue and parents need to remain
- 4:02ever vigilant if they have their children and government schools, especially.
- 4:08Thank you, Sherry. I want to mention your Facebook page as well. People can connect with you in
- 4:12many different ways. That is another place you can look up US or United States parents involved in
- 4:18education on Facebook. I just typed in USPI and it came right up in the search. So please connect
- 4:25with them. There's a lot of work still to be done. In fact, more work than we really are aware of,
- 4:29I think. One more thing before we jump into the topic that truth in lies in American education,
- 4:35the film. Last time we had you on, we talked about that. I think you can get DVDs now. Tell us
- 4:40about that briefly when I give the website truth and lies film dot US. That's truth and lies film dot US.
- 4:51So Sherry, tell us about that. Okay. So it's another good resource for parents who have children
- 4:58in government schools or even grandparents that might be concerned about their grandchildren.
- 5:03It is an expose and it's very relevant today. Everything that's discussed in this film
- 5:10is happening in classrooms across America. A lot of people that live in quote unquote red states
- 5:17like the one where I live in South Carolina. I think it's not happening in their schools,
- 5:20not in their backyard, but it's absolutely happening everywhere. So we discuss things like
- 5:27critical theories, LGBTQ agenda, the fake history that's being taught. What's being taught in
- 5:35government schools today is sheer indoctrination. And they've just totally escaped the basics,
- 5:42teaching children how to read, write and do math. And we see all across the country,
- 5:48scores have just plummeted, the national scores. I think the latest data shows that 40% of
- 5:55fourth graders are below basics. So they're not even basic. They're on the lowest wrong. 40% of
- 6:02children in fourth grade are struggling with reading. So they've abandoned academics for indoctrination.
- 6:09The film lays it all out. It's a great resource. You gave the website, but you can also find it
- 6:15easily at our website uspie.org. There is a tab there for the film as well. Well, where they can
- 6:22access it. They can either stream it or purchase the DVD. So it seems like American education that
- 6:29public schools are bottoming out when it comes to results and test scores. And it just,
- 6:33it's a head scratcher shared because they always get more money. And they seem to say more
- 6:37money is the answer, more money for the teachers, the teachers unions. But back in, I think it was
- 6:41like 1979. We were leading the world, you know, in so many different categories. And then they,
- 6:48the US Department of Education came on the scene. But that's for another podcast. Let's jump into
- 6:53the topic today. And I want to just reiterate what I said at the very beginning, where a recent
- 7:00investigation, this was done by the daily wire, revealed that open AIs chat GPT provided guidance
- 7:08to minors as young as 12 on how to obtain gender affirming products and services without parental
- 7:16knowledge. Specifically, it directed a hypothetical 12 year old to activist groups offering free
- 7:23chest binders, explained how to purchase and ship them using prepaid cards and a trusted
- 7:29adult address. And even offered tips on measuring and writing letters requesting support. And it
- 7:36goes on. But Sherry, tell us about this because this is just another thing with technology today
- 7:42that parents have to be concerned about, isn't it? It is. And this is a very serious concern because
- 7:49we know there's a lot of talk about AI and the advancements of AI. And we know that it's going
- 7:55to be a big part of education going forward. So this, you know, children can access this obviously
- 8:02with any device. They don't have to access it through school. But we know again that schools
- 8:07are going to be adopting AI as a tool in learning. Our organization doesn't think that technology is
- 8:15such a wonderful thing for children in education. We think that it was a huge mistake, you know,
- 8:2115 or 20 years ago when they decided that every child needed to have a laptop or a Chromebook.
- 8:27And we knew then, and even today, it's the medical community says that children should limit
- 8:34their screen time. And they have, they have altered their opinion, the medical community,
- 8:40community, they usually defend the liberal agenda. So they used to say that two and a half hours
- 8:46should be the limit of all screen time for children. But then once they recognize that in education,
- 8:53they're on, you know, their screen time all day long, they had to modify that. So now they're saying
- 8:59that you should only get two and a half hours outside of the classroom. So it's absurd to think
- 9:05that it's okay to be on screens all day for eight hours a day during school. And then, you know,
- 9:12nearly every child has a phone. They have access to screen time constantly. It's not good for
- 9:17children, for their mental health, for their physical development. It's bad in all sorts of ways.
- 9:23So technology in general, we think is a mistake in the classroom. We really believe that
- 9:28K through A children should have books and paper and pencil and not be online. In fact, most
- 9:35education now is online and teachers are relegated as facilitators. We, you know, teachers are
- 9:43always wanting higher pay and, and all of these things. But, you know, they're not even teaching
- 9:48anymore, basically. In so many ways, they're relying on online platforms and programs. And parents
- 9:58don't have a clue what's in these programs. You know, used to be kids would come home with their
- 10:03backpack and their textbooks and parents could look through what they're learning. But when they're
- 10:07learning online, they have no clue what these children are learning and parents cannot access that
- 10:12information. And the other big concern about technology is that they're constantly accessing data
- 10:18on a child. And in their print post tests, they're asking personal questions about them and their
- 10:24family, you know, whether they have guns in the home, whether they're parents drink alcohol,
- 10:30all sorts of things that are none of their business. And data collection is a big concern
- 10:35about technology. But with AI, it's especially dangerous. And we know, you know, the example you
- 10:42provided from the daily caller that did, did a wire, excuse me, that did this investigation.
- 10:47It's just unfathomable that they are telling 12-year-old children, you can get this,
- 10:53you can get advice even on surgery and hormone therapy without parental consent. They show them how
- 11:00to do it discreetly, how to even receive free products from them and mail it to a safe person's
- 11:08address, avoiding their parents. It is just unconscionable that this company thinks it's okay
- 11:19to do that. And of course, I'm sure they would deny it, but that's why it was so important, this
- 11:24investigation went in pretending to be a 12-year-old, because they said, you know, you have to have
- 11:30parental consent or something like that on the website. But then when you actually went and did it,
- 11:35it was not true. So the other thing about AI that's really a concern, David, there's been,
- 11:41there was a study that was put out by MIT. It was published not long ago. And it found that
- 11:48in they had separate groups that they tested, there were children that used the traditional
- 11:53methods of learning and writing essays, and then they had children on GPT chat. And so the
- 12:00children that were on GPT chat, they studied their brains and they found consistently that they
- 12:06underperformed the other groups. And eventually, they just ended up copying and pasting. And the
- 12:12author of this study who really believes in this technology and this is her area of expertise,
- 12:18she was so concerned about the findings that she published the conclusions of the report before
- 12:26it's actually peer-reviewed, because she's so concerned about the advancement of AI in education.
- 12:32She's even quoted saying she's concerned that some policymaker will come up with GPT chat for
- 12:39kindergarten and she says for younger students in particular, it's very troubling because
- 12:48they have developing brains. And so if they're not using their brains, if they're being lazy
- 12:53and just using AI, their brain will not develop correctly. And so this AI thing is really a big concern.
- 13:03Parents need to be concerned and need to be speaking out about this and do their own research and
- 13:08understand that all of this technology is very harmful to children. And especially if this AI
- 13:15gets into the classroom, kids' brains will be affected in their development.
- 13:20Yeah, parents, please, even if you think you are being diligent, be even more diligent with all
- 13:27that's coming out the kids now today. Sherry, we could take a brief pause in a minute, but you
- 13:32mentioned data collection. I work for organization Freedom Project, Media Freedom Project Academy,
- 13:3815 years ago in 2010 when Common Core was being rolled out. There was something in there about
- 13:45collecting data with either I don't know, little cameras in the classroom or something that we
- 13:50were concerned about that back then. So now it's even more concerning. But before we pause here with
- 13:54Sherry few, one of the reasons we are concerned even more about this is many staff members and
- 14:02teachers of school districts across the country have been keeping students gender transitions or
- 14:10preferred pronouns, a secret from the student's parents. So now enter AI chat GPT and there are
- 14:19other ways that kids can find how to do this. So this is why we have programs like this. I hope
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- 14:54Sherry few FEW is the president and founder of USPI that's United States parents involved in
- 15:09education. USPI.org. It's great to have her back on the podcast. If you missed the first one we
- 15:15did with her, you can go to worldviewmatters.tv and in the upper right there's a search, the
- 15:21magnifying glass, just type in Sherry FEW. So Sherry, the AI even recommended YouTube channels with
- 15:29graphic reviews of prosthetics, promoted further medical transition options like hormone therapy
- 15:37and surgery via organizations such as WPath and Gender GP. Stop right there. What is WPath
- 15:48and Gender GP? Well I'm not going to have the answer to that unfortunately. I didn't look at
- 15:57what that was but I can imagine from the context that these are LGBTQ organizations that support
- 16:07children who feel as though they're in the wrong body as they like to say. And so there are
- 16:14several organizations like that so they're referring them to these websites so that they can access
- 16:21medical information. So it's referring them literally to access hormone therapy and surgeries
- 16:30and the like. And so yes and this is happening as you mentioned before we went to the break.
- 16:36This is happening in classrooms across the country, especially in the more liberal states of
- 16:42course. I'll give you an example in Rhode Island and I interviewed on my podcast a gentleman
- 16:49who's involved with the lawsuit. They're calling it the Jane Doe case because the mother
- 16:55in fear of reprisal is not identifying herself but they have filed a lawsuit against their state
- 17:01Department of Education in Rhode Island for guidance that required the schools to keep this
- 17:09information from parents. If a child felt as though they were say a girl felt she was a boy then
- 17:17whatever name she chooses at school, the pronouns, whatever advice they're going to all of it
- 17:24is the policy in the school district was you are not allowed to tell the parent it is confidential
- 17:31information. So what happened in this case is just so saddening. So this girl who thought she
- 17:39was a boy, Jane Doe's daughter, for two years she was transitioning behind her parents back
- 17:47with the advice of the school, the school told her to lie to her mother about this and the mother
- 17:54had no idea. So you can imagine the girl is a boy all day long at school and she comes home and
- 18:01pretends to be a girl. And so that culminated in so much stress in this young girl's life that
- 18:08eventually how the mother found out was the daughter attempted suicide right in front of her mother
- 18:15and her younger brother. And so they in the hospital is when the mother learned about this transition
- 18:22that had been happening for two years behind her back. And of course she was livid. And then the
- 18:27hospital staff even supported the school's perspective and said you know you need to affirm your
- 18:35daughter, you need to use the proper pronouns right there in the hospital room. They're encouraging
- 18:41the mother to affirm the child quote unquote affirm. And so it's a really really sad case. I'm so glad
- 18:48that the mother had the courage to join this lawsuit even though it's you know as a pseudonym.
- 18:56It's so important because this is happening to other parents I'm sure. Yes.
- 19:00But and you know the irony and it's irony is probably not even the right word. It's just so sad that
- 19:09what the left tries to say about keeping it from parents is they want to keep children safe
- 19:15because if the parent doesn't approve of it then the child somehow becomes unsafe if they try
- 19:22to help them get some kind of counseling because it's obviously a mental health disorder. And so
- 19:28they talk about safety and they even talk about you know children that are this way that have
- 19:35this mental disorder we we need to prevent them from committing suicide because they're going to
- 19:41be having suicidal ideations if we don't affirm who they think they are. And yet in this case we have
- 19:49a girl who actually attempted suicide because of the pressure the school is putting on her
- 19:55causing her to live a double life. And and and and the mother has lost everything. The mother
- 20:00has lost her job because she worked for the school district and the daughter is now living with
- 20:07her father you know they were separated or divorced and the father is affirming her identity so she's
- 20:16gone to live with her father so she's even lost her daughter. And and this all falls squarely in
- 20:22the lap of that school district and I'm so proud of the Rhode Island group that has taken this on
- 20:29and filed this lawsuit and and the mother you know has has taken the bold stand that she has.
- 20:36But this is not an isolated incident. No. And so the parents do need to be extremely vigilant and
- 20:42understand if their children are in government school they are prey. And and and and the other part
- 20:48of this that really infuriates me is somehow they want to address this mental health disorder
- 20:56that they have actually perpetrated on the child because young children would never think of
- 21:01these things had they not put the thoughts in their head through their their social emotional
- 21:07learning their surveys their their books and and you know it's it's the propaganda that it's
- 21:15laced into every subject. And so they have caused this mental health crisis in our country
- 21:23and now somehow they want to be the solution. And you talked about money earlier that's another
- 21:28thing is now you know the school districts and the federal government under Biden was wanting to
- 21:35put more and more money into school districts to address mental health concerns which of course
- 21:41they blame on covid like it was covid's fault that schools were shut down when they made the choice
- 21:47to shut down schools they have perpetrated these mental health problems and and they're trying to
- 21:52train teachers who who have no qualification to be mental health counselors but that's what's
- 22:00expected of the teacher today and they want to put more and more money in to put actual counselors
- 22:05into every school. Wow I want to talk about counselors for for in a second but I want to
- 22:11mention WPATH WPath stands for World Professional Association for Transgender Health and that's
- 22:20where a chat GPT is leading these kids but so Sherry my father was a high school guidance
- 22:25counselor for many many years for decades 60s 70s in the 80s he would never stand for this but here
- 22:32I'm reading that this AI model encouraged people young kids to seek help from school counselors
- 22:42or LGBT youth groups instead of parents if they're confused or if they needed guidance and so
- 22:50this is the assumption that school counselors are all on board with this chat you know AI is
- 22:57programmed right it's not it doesn't think on its own could you speak to that for a moment please
- 23:04well yes certainly so yes because AI is programmed we know that those who are programming it
- 23:11may not share the same values as we do so if they view the world and you know that fits right in
- 23:16with the name of your show world view matters if if they're not of our world view they're going to be
- 23:22programming this information in a slanted biased way that will create more indoctrination so yes
- 23:31it's it's untrustworthy most people that are involved in the tech industry with the education
- 23:39programs that I've seen are very left-leaning I mean Bill Gates for example I mean he's been at the
- 23:46the helm of most of these liberal agendas I mean with Common Core you mentioned it earlier
- 23:53you know he was a big funder of Common Core and and he's also a big proponent of
- 24:00transgender transitioning and so these organ private organizations and tech companies
- 24:07are flooding these programs with more indoctrination and we like you said like I said earlier we really
- 24:14don't even have a clue parents don't know what all is in these programs and they never will know
- 24:20because they're not allowed to access this information and even even some of the teachers are
- 24:25unable to access like the content of the surveys and the answers to the surveys the teachers don't
- 24:31even know that information the only person that sees it is the child so Sherry last question I
- 24:36knew this would go by fast with you today how do you hold big tech companies like open AI
- 24:43how do you for bypassing parental rights how do you hold them accountable well you know that's
- 24:51that's an important question it's one I get asked a lot on all of these topics one of the topics
- 24:57we were talking about recently was how the federal government was weaponized against children if
- 25:02you remember and this just came out last week there was they have solid evidence that the Biden
- 25:08administration and the DOJ was in cooots they colluded with the National School Board Association
- 25:16remember when they declared they were domestic terrorists well they have all the evidence now
- 25:20to prove that that was actually a fact and so when I when I'm talking about this topic and people
- 25:27want to know well well how are we going to rectify this you know all these parents were harmed
- 25:34where is the justice in this so it has to be adjudicated these things people have to be charged
- 25:41with crimes and prosecuted and that's the only way they're they're going to be able to put a stop
- 25:46to this so thank god we have Donald Trump in the White House and Pam Bondy in the Department of
- 25:52Justice and you know we've seen them already take action against universities against the
- 26:00universities you know allowing boys to compete in girl sports so we're hoping that we're going to
- 26:05see more and more action like this and even in this situation where they're going to hold these
- 26:11individuals accountable for usurping the parental rights to direct the upbringing of their children
- 26:19so really quick we got a minute left there's a blog over on your website Biden DOJ sought federal
- 26:25hook to go after parents as domestic terrorists I got that link from your Facebook page and
- 26:32the White House is facing pressure from over 60 organizations that want to fund AI
- 26:38in America's classrooms what could this be about control demonic agendas yes yes and yes so
- 26:45Sherry thank you for all your work I want to give the website again uspi.org also friends check out
- 26:51the film truth and lies in American education Sherry we appreciate all the work you do Lord willing
- 26:59we'll do this again thanks for your time today again there's a lot of information to cover but it's
- 27:03a warning to parents keep doing what you're doing thank you so much and god bless you all right thank
- 27:10you're most welcome so great to talk about this but it's not like I enjoy it but it has to be
- 27:17discussed because a lot of parents really don't know how deep this goes and what's happening right
- 27:22at their own local school friends god bless you thanks for sharing the podcast and as always
- 27:28keep speaking the truth about things it matters