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NFL Week 6 NFL DFS - MNF | Bills @ Falcons | Bears @ Commanders | DraftKings Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all system's going clear the left.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know if I could do this. Look
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  Speaker 2: at this guy. What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberline here aka
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  Speaker 2: to Tagging Tambo and we're back. It's a two game
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  Speaker 2: Monday Night Football edition to wrap up week six. We
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  Speaker 2: got Hoopster here with me. Like always, I'm to tagging Tamba.
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  Speaker 2: We got Crop Top and Title Town. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: breaking it all down today with you guys. The bet,
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  Speaker 2: no title I'm going to you first is Judkins versus Warren.
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  Speaker 2: He either did anything, but Judkins lost the seventy eight
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  Speaker 2: and a half prop got you. The plot turned into
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  Speaker 2: the crop. Now look at the guys. Crop Top got
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  Speaker 2: spaghetti straps and all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and this is how my Sunday went.
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  Speaker 3: If you really want to know, what is my own
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  Speaker 3: DFS play? Yeah, yeah, I got my teeth kicked in
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  Speaker 3: and every which way. Judkins did absolutely nothing. And yeah
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  Speaker 3: that's a bet man. Yeah, most it doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people watch yesterday's show. Yeah, I lost
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  Speaker 3: a bet and I paid my bets. So I gave
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  Speaker 3: Hoop three options. My sister laid out some options for
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  Speaker 3: me and a hoop of course picked the one that
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  Speaker 3: was like this, so yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 4: If you're going to offer that up as payment. I
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  Speaker 4: mean the first one was like a you know, a
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  Speaker 4: little girl's T shirt, something i'd probably find in my
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  Speaker 4: daughter's closet. The second one was like a little stripe
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  Speaker 4: thing similar, but it was a V neck. And then
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  Speaker 4: you show me that option like a literally a spaghetti
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  Speaker 4: strap tight ass belly. Sure, I'm of course gonna pick
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  Speaker 4: that one. I do appreciate the quick payment, like you're
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  Speaker 4: not gonna have to do this the entire show, that's
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  Speaker 4: for sure, So appreciate the quick pain. And I was
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  Speaker 4: prepared to pay up to I have a lot. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: there's no excuse like the the uh you know, it
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  Speaker 4: took me a while to do the shoey, I admit that,
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  Speaker 4: but it was good and I got there, got the
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  Speaker 4: video That takes some planning, But the belly shirt painting,
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  Speaker 4: it would have been easy for me. I have a
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  Speaker 4: wife that is relatively small inside, or that a small
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  Speaker 4: in size, I have a daughter that a small in size.
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  Speaker 5: I would have been able to pay up with a
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  Speaker 5: lot of options. I don't know if I would have
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  Speaker 5: gone the spaghetti strap route. I'll be honest with you,
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  Speaker 5: but I give you credit for paying up right out
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  Speaker 5: of the gate. And you know, I wish I could
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  Speaker 5: have victory lapped.
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Wren over Buttkins, but you know, I really I
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  Speaker 4: really can't. But that's a bet and you paid up.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate it one thing.
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  Speaker 2: So I will say this, so titles like the most
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  Speaker 2: humble person in the plant on the planet. He crushes
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  Speaker 2: everything he does. He's the best plus ev finder in
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  Speaker 2: the world. I could talk about him for days on
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  Speaker 2: this level. He's amazing. But I am pretty good at
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  Speaker 2: betting against hoop and getting my way on them. I
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  Speaker 2: would say this, there should have been a minimum requirement
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  Speaker 2: in there of like, at least do something, because it's
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  Speaker 2: not like Wren did shit. This guy did nothing and
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  Speaker 2: we still got to see this man pay up. He's
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  Speaker 2: got his He looks like Jackson Dart who picked up
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  Speaker 2: his daughter's necklace and put it on. You know, skat
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  Speaker 2: got the big chain and then Darts like, oh I
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  Speaker 2: just found my my my sister's little necklace and I
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  Speaker 2: threw it on. I kind of liked it. Now I
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  Speaker 2: run with it. You got the Jackson Dart. Someone's at
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  Speaker 2: a farm boy. This is incredible. Man, this is nice
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  Speaker 2: cruption over there. He picked croption number one. Stand up
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  Speaker 2: Badlands said, they're gonna give him the.
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  Speaker 3: Full I want someone to stand up. Hoop said. Once
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  Speaker 3: I go dust off my fan, we're gonna get a
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  Speaker 3: hole from last year to this year. I'll dust the fan.
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  Speaker 3: You get to see the back and then Hoop gave
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  Speaker 3: me an out that I can then put on a
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  Speaker 3: different shirt. So now's the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fair. I honestly, I can't look at you
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  Speaker 4: wearing that all show. I mean, oh look at that.
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  Speaker 2: That is Oh yeah, a little dust up there. I
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  Speaker 2: backed the camera when you come back to don't get
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  Speaker 2: to give it a little camera boost on the action there.
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  Speaker 4: Look at this, there we go. The man's ripped. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I seriously think that he kind of wanted to show
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  Speaker 4: show show off. You know his you know, his body
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  Speaker 4: and his physique, so I think he secretly enjoyed this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, this is we appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: And like my mama title back and she helped appreciow
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  Speaker 4: Mama title helped him put this on because he couldn't
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  Speaker 4: get it on.
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  Speaker 3: Her back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, that's amazing. But he said, whoa the
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  Speaker 2: time to turn the street. What are we doing over here?
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  Speaker 2: But incredible stuff. You gotta love that, and paid his bet.
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  Speaker 2: He's good to go. So what the hell, big Drigs.
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  Speaker 2: You know what it is. You've been here supporting forever.
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  Speaker 2: We appreciate you. Guys. Make sure give Title that thumbs
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  Speaker 2: up today because that that's all for Title on this one.
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  Speaker 2: I won't even ask for more. That's too good, the
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  Speaker 2: man of the people, you got the job done. He
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  Speaker 2: paid his bet more all set.
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  Speaker 4: Titles, cash, plays and content is going to be switching
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  Speaker 4: over to his only fans page here real quick.
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  Speaker 3: I meant in the castets too, So I need some
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  Speaker 3: only fans of money to help me out.
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  Speaker 4: I got you get that to get that text from Title. Sorry, boys,
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  Speaker 4: I'm discontinuing my time here at Ship and I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to you know, only fans backslash Title town.
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  Speaker 2: They lose something, not discontinue. They thought his shoulder was
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  Speaker 2: popping out on that little removal piece there.
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  Speaker 3: I had to lift my hands up. My mom had
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  Speaker 3: to do it. But yeah, you can't lose money on
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  Speaker 3: only fans, can you.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so?
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  Speaker 2: In Oh god, all right, Well that was amazing. Hopefully
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  Speaker 2: everybody enjoyed that. I know I certainly did. And congrats
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  Speaker 2: again to hoopster on by the way, congrats again to
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  Speaker 2: Hoopster on the six and oh run in ship at Games.
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  Speaker 2: So the head to head battle continues. M Philly did
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  Speaker 2: battle with him and did not come through. So Hoopster
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  Speaker 2: is now six and oh in ship at Games and
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  Speaker 2: we are all the other Sad part is, though it's
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  Speaker 2: oh and six on share ship, so far we haven't
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  Speaker 2: been able to have a member come through and get
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  Speaker 2: a lineup over the cash line. And the five fifty
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  Speaker 2: five million maker is back this week, so maybe we
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  Speaker 2: will get a bigger one. But what we have not
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  Speaker 2: seen yet hoop get it, get a cash in the
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  Speaker 2: ship of game streets A.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it just takes one though. I mean that's
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  Speaker 4: the big that's the nice one. We just need something,
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  Speaker 4: something big. And man, I've heard this every week, like
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  Speaker 4: every single week. You go, it's ending this week, it's
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  Speaker 4: ending this week. I mean six and oh at some point,
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  Speaker 4: I mean we're on pace for undefeated season. I mean
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  Speaker 4: you might see it here. It might go seventeen and
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  Speaker 4: O sixteen actually tends before that. So how many weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Is it fifteen that wound up doing this fourteen sixteen sixteen? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so sixteen weeks. It's sixteen and oh's on the table.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there's been some a couple close ones. But
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  Speaker 4: I mean when when you start out, you guys send
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  Speaker 4: big neads to the table and he gets dusted like
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  Speaker 4: it's not things things started on the wrong on the
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  Speaker 4: wrong foot, Call.
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  Speaker 2: Him buddy, call him buddy.
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  Speaker 3: Maid's always taken strays.
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  Speaker 4: You're the man. Maids got to you many big strays, big strays,
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  Speaker 4: big aids.
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  Speaker 2: We got a two gamer to get to. Let let's
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  Speaker 2: do this. I'm sure we'll have a ton of fun throughout.
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  Speaker 2: But just to break it all down, it's not your
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  Speaker 2: standard showdown slate. It is the staggered games again. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, next week staggered too, and it's like a
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  Speaker 2: super late for the secondary one. It's Houston at Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's like ten o'clock Eastern is when it
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  Speaker 2: starts next week. But anyway, it's just a little bit
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  Speaker 2: later than this week. So, by the way, happy Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 2: to all my Canadian friends as well. I should say
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  Speaker 2: that it's Thanksgiving here, you guys know, I like selling
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  Speaker 2: American Thanksgiving more than that, but I still want to
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  Speaker 2: say it. Everybody out there had some people wish it
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  Speaker 2: to me this morning, and I certainly appreciate that. So
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  Speaker 2: a lot to be thankful for and very thankful we
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  Speaker 2: got to start the show that way. I have a
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  Speaker 2: few laughs to kick off this show. Hill's at the Falcons.
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  Speaker 2: Then we got the Bears at the Commanders. Probably the
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  Speaker 2: most quarterback friendly two gamer and we've seen in a
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  Speaker 2: long time, because it's usually just like Josh Allen and
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  Speaker 2: scrubs say, we want about these guys, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: think they're all complete scrubs, And I also think it
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  Speaker 2: matters the entire lineup and how you're playing. So Hoop,
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  Speaker 2: I'll go to you first here you're the all victorious leader.
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  Speaker 2: What do we got for your grand scheme? Overview on
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  Speaker 2: this two games, like.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it is a good one. Out of curiosity though,
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  Speaker 4: what's on the schedule for the Canadian Thanksgiving. It's the
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  Speaker 4: same setup as like a American where you know, family food,
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  Speaker 4: all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It is like that. We always do it on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: So it was yesterday and there was football that Someone's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: the American one's good. They always have football Day. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's we got football day. I'm just having a stupid
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  Speaker 2: family dinner right now instead of at home in front
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  Speaker 2: of my TVs. But being nice about it, I went
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  Speaker 2: to my sister's wedding in week two, so I actually
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  Speaker 2: canceled the family plans to go away this weekend and
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  Speaker 2: everyone that was doing the rest of my family went
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  Speaker 2: and did stuff and we stayed back.
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  Speaker 4: So it's all, okay, gotcha a good game? I mean, so,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the nice thing about our good games, I
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  Speaker 4: should say, the nice thing about these two games is
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  Speaker 4: a lot of fantasy relevance on every team. It's not
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  Speaker 4: like some of these slates where we just had some
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  Speaker 4: you know, dusty teams on these two game slates where
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  Speaker 4: like the you know Tennessee Titans are involved, which, by
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  Speaker 4: the way, they finally fired their head coach, which I mean,
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  Speaker 4: why the hell did it take him so long to
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  Speaker 4: do so? Some of these coaches in the NFL. Man,
• 8:54
  Speaker 4: it's like it's just still shocking to me. And like
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  Speaker 4: the tweet or the that just submerged of the Panthers
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  Speaker 4: guy saying he doesn't know if Rico I'm calling him
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  Speaker 4: Dodo I'm sticking with it because it worked out well yesterday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he got us well. I mean it depends how much
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  Speaker 4: you played him, if you had the right combination, but
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  Speaker 4: if you went all in, he got you the dough yesterday. Like,
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  Speaker 4: just how dumb can you be? Like the dude is
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  Speaker 4: beating every NFL team in rushing in the last two weeks,
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  Speaker 4: and to not say like he's our guy, like I
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  Speaker 4: hope Chubba Hubbard comes back and they use him over Rico.
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  Speaker 4: That would just show like the level of you know,
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  Speaker 4: how dumb some of these coaches are. That's a side
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  Speaker 4: note though, how do I get distracted off? So anyway, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: two really good games in terms of well, we have
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  Speaker 4: four teams that have relevant fantasy pieces and four teams
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  Speaker 4: that can score points score fantasy points, so it makes
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  Speaker 4: it good for the slate. We have some very good quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there's good plays basically at every position. I
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  Speaker 4: will say, you know, running back, maybe a little weak,
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  Speaker 4: tight end probably a little week, but you look at quarterback,
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  Speaker 4: you look at wide receiver. We have a lot of
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  Speaker 4: options on the slate, so I'm looking forward to it. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: you can play the showdown as well. We'll kind of
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  Speaker 4: talk through it, and a lot of the stuff we
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  Speaker 4: talk about is applicable for the Showdown slates. We'll have
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  Speaker 4: the content for that for the feature one. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. It's four playable teams for fantasy. So I
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  Speaker 4: think it should be a good slate tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, title, What are you thinking here? What's sort of
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  Speaker 2: cropping up in your mind as you're thinking about this slate?
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  Speaker 3: It couldn't be any more different than the two games
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  Speaker 3: slate we had two weeks ago. We like, you could
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  Speaker 3: even almost spend all the money if you wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: What the highest quarterback was, like five point seven k,
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  Speaker 3: like a Chan Chase like people didn't even like Chase,
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  Speaker 3: but you had the money to spend there. Completely different slate.
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  Speaker 3: You have a lot of the best football players like
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, Jaden Daniels, Bijon, James Cook. Receiver is kind
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  Speaker 3: of lower price, but you have enough people to spend
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  Speaker 3: on where you leaving salary is one way to get
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  Speaker 3: different where you could have built a forty seven eight
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  Speaker 3: line up two weeks ago and still played really good plays.
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  Speaker 3: What I like, though, is like the Daniels, Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 3: kill Williams. These guys can run a lot. They also
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  Speaker 3: have so many different guys they spread it out to,
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  Speaker 3: so you're gonna be able to play Josh Allen of
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  Speaker 3: course will be own, Jaden Daniels who will be owned,
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  Speaker 3: but they have so many pass catchers they rotate that
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  Speaker 3: they're pass catchers. A lot of them will be pretty
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  Speaker 3: low owned. So it's a slate where you can still
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  Speaker 3: play a lot of the best plays, and naturally you
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  Speaker 3: can get correlation with guys that are pretty low owned
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  Speaker 3: just because they're gonna be rotating receivers, and these guys
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  Speaker 3: spread it out a good bit. So I think it's
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  Speaker 3: a really good two game slate.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely a really good two game slate for the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to ship, get to get it all out right,
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  Speaker 2: like what we talk about on Showdown. I'm talking with
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  Speaker 2: the two gamer like for the chance that are unique tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen a two gamer more likely to have
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  Speaker 2: it because it's gonna be is it? Casey Washington, Ray,
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  Speaker 2: Ray McLeod key, on Coleman, Joshua Palm, Are Burden, the
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  Speaker 2: third Lane, McCaffrey, you name it, like, there's literally everyone,
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  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be something like that, and then the
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  Speaker 2: same at tight end Roulette. I think the running backs
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  Speaker 2: are kind of a tighter group and it's more sound
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  Speaker 2: of what you're gonna end up on there. The quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: just a product of what the rest of your lineup
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  Speaker 2: looks like. But to your point, you could even build
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  Speaker 2: it with Josh Allen and just leave a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: money because it's any of those backups to him or
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  Speaker 2: the like the wide receiver twos and threes, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: with these other spots. So it's good from that perspective.
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  Speaker 2: I know some dislike that, but it's definitely a site
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  Speaker 2: that seems a lot more sound at running back, and
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  Speaker 2: then everything else is kind of a free for all
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  Speaker 2: because even those quarterbacks, like I said, yes, Josh Allen first,
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  Speaker 2: and then you see people say, okay, we'll go to
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  Speaker 2: Daniels and that's pretty close. I think even Williams Pennix
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  Speaker 2: Junior will be the lowest zone for sure, because people
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  Speaker 2: are on Bijon, But it probably works out that way,
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  Speaker 2: like you don't really necessarily need that, You've got other
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  Speaker 2: ways you can get there. Bijon might be eighty five
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  Speaker 2: to eighty eight percent home by the time we get
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  Speaker 2: the final numbers in to end the day. It just
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: he fits. It's easy, it's always going to be there.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's fine. He's very likely to be optimal
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  Speaker 2: on this slate. So I don't know who. I'll kick
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: it over to you to start, but we usually go
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  Speaker 2: game by game for these two gamers. Do you want
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: to do that or you want to go position by position?
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  Speaker 3: Mute?
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  Speaker 2: He was really letting this one apply.
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  Speaker 4: He still is, well, I told you I gotta stay.
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  Speaker 4: I told tell the title. I got to go a
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  Speaker 4: lot of mute today, had got some My basement is
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  Speaker 4: getting refinished due to a water league. So there of course,
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  Speaker 4: rolled in here like an hour ago and started going
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  Speaker 4: to town so get I get the free past today
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  Speaker 4: on the mute a little bit. But I think, what
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  Speaker 4: tell you like going by positions? I think it's easier
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  Speaker 4: to I.
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  Speaker 3: Think it's easier on these two.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, and you can hit the
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  Speaker 4: ownership stuff. So yeah, let's let's go positions, and then
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  Speaker 4: we can obviously can be applicable for the showdown sites
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can apply all that for sure, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: have all the content up over at ship a Nation anyway,
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  Speaker 2: for that, and if you want more, it's easy to
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  Speaker 2: get in. It's less than twenty bucks. It's basically the
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: same price as Titles only fans nineteen bucks. But you
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  Speaker 2: get five days here for super Nation, So I mean
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: that's you already got a little free be up front.
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  Speaker 2: You should feel like that. What's that law of reciprocation?
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  Speaker 2: Like we gave you shit titles gave a free show
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  Speaker 2: nineteen bucks, and you're gonna get a bunch more for that.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll kick it to you first hoop the the
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  Speaker 2: immedia gets.
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  Speaker 4: The sit I wish that was the case. Unfortunately, it's
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  Speaker 4: like not like so far from that. It's not even fun.
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  Speaker 4: Like a water leak from the fridge and destroyed my
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  Speaker 4: hardwood floor and my finished basement that I just did
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  Speaker 4: four years ago. So it's ah. And now dealing with insurance,
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  Speaker 4: like dealing with insurance on a home issue is the
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  Speaker 4: worst experience of my life. Like these guys, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how it works, but these people must get commissioned
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  Speaker 4: by trying to fuck you out of money. That's the
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: only thing I can can come up with on this
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: whole situation. Like these insurance agents have to get commissioned off.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Of It's like reverse commission the lead. The less amount
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: they give you is what you've paid on. You're like, okay,
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: you have a budget of eighty thousand for this guy's basement.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: They're like, all right, we'll give you twenty Yeah, like
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: what and then they get paid.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: On the sixth test. Dude, It's the only thing makes sense.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: This guy is fighting me tooth and nail about like
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: a two thousand dollars thing. I'm like, dude, like, what
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: in the what in the world is your benefit here?
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: Just give me the damn money and let's get the
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: hell on with this thing.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: You can get him some title videos and seduce him,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: get them, get.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Them, might have to. Yeah, you like, you know men
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: in their how old are you? Thirty? Upper twenty twenty seven?
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: So close to thirty? In spaghetti stress.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Close to thirty. No, don't be saying that that's a
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: long way away. Don't be saying close to thirty.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: And you're right there, buddy, You're right almost a thousand
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: days if you look at it that way. Yeah, you
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: got a lot more sleeps before then, but it'll be
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: here before you know it. Sure, But yeah, I'll see
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: if I could Yeah, maybe, uh, sweeten up the pot
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: for the insurance guy a little bit with a couple
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: of screen grabs of title.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, take us into quarterback hoop is you're
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: up first?
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Yes? I mean we have good ones, really good ones
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: on the slate. I mean Josh Allen seventy seven hundred,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels sixty nine, Kleob Williams fifty six, and then
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: PENNYX Junior five k uh. For me personally, this could
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: be one of those slates where I just kind of
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: take one out and just roll with the three and
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: it would definitely be pen X. I mean, the problem
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: is on these two not the problem, but the thing
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: is on these two games slates, you just most likely
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: need the highest score at each spot, and salary really
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter a ton. I mean it matters a little bit,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: but on this slate it really doesn't matter a ton.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: So in my eyes, like for pen X to be
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: the guy, he has to beat either Caleb Williams, Josh
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: Allen or Jayden Daniels. Now he is quite a bit
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: cheaper than Josh Allen, so maybe it could work where
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen gets twenty five and pen X gets twenty
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: and it just works out with some of the other
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: positional stuff. But I'm just going to bank on one
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: of those other three beating pen X, and I'll probably
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: be axing him out. And you know a lot of
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: people say, oh, that's not really doing anything. He's only
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: ten percent owned or whatever. He is seven eight, nine,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: ten percent. Oh well it does. That's you know, when
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: you make these little fades on these two games slates,
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: it can be substantial. You're eliminating ten percent of the
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: pool potentially if it's not Penex that you need. So
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: kind of leaning that route, it looks like Jaden Daniels
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: is going to be higher on than like Josh Allen.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I'd be fine, like totally flipping that and getting more
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, then Jadeen Daniels and then Caleb Williams. I
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: like quite a bit too. Fifty six, Like you could
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: easily be the highest scoring guy on the slate if
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: they're playing from behind. I mean, there's what five and
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: a half six point underdogs. Their offense is capable of
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: moving to football and you get a little bit of
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: the rushing upside as well. So I'm good with those
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: three probably out on pen X and then like for
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: me personally, if it's looking like jayd and Daniel, which
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: it is looking like that's NBA case, it is going
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: to be higher owned than Josh Allen. I'll probably just
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: try to find a way to flip that in my
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: builds where I have more Allen than Jaden Daniels.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many reasons, and you said a couple
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: of things that I want to hit on to. The
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Penix thing is like what it usually is is if
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: you like you see yes, or like with the Jacoby Brissett,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: like if you can just play him at forty two,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: but that's a main slate with ten games, and there's
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: gonna be a bunch of different ceiling scores. We don't
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: even know how many guys you're gonna have to have
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: on this slate that have these big scores. So when
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: you go to him, you're like, Okay, that would be
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the only way you can get five of these guys,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: let's say. But then you for six hundred bucks more,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you could just play Caleb Williams. And that's part of
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: the control as well. And you have the stone, you're
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: able to see the optimal rates, You're able to see
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: everything and that's clearly why Caleb Williams is owned more
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: than Pennix, but also why it kind of makes more sense,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: like it's definitely more likely that that happens. There's also
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: nothing saying that you need to even spend the full
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: fifty K, because we don't know. If you can't just say, oh,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I have all the best guys, they're all gonna max
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: out how many times on these slates that we've seen
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: where that's not the case at all, And it comes
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: down to like a forty five six hundred lineup that
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: has whatever just has the nuts, it has the best spot.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: So title, I'll kick it over to you. I think
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: everything Hoop said was pretty solid and the same way
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of thinking about it. I actually like Caleb
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Williams quite a bit, but I like Alan over Daniels
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: as well, So that's kind of how I'm seeing it.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: And then I'll kick it to you for your thoughts.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not too like I probably will x Penix two.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I just man the rushing prop on the other three
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: guys twenty six and a half for Caleb, thirty four
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: and a half, Josh forty six and a half Jaden
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: their passing yards prop is all pretty similar, and yeah, like,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: what does Penix need to do to be optimal today?
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Three touchdowns probably minimum, and even then it's not guaranteed
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: because all those other guys can put up thirty plus
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: if they rush one in or something. And then just say,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: you do get Penix right, and obviously this is common sense,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: but you need to get the pass catchers right, which
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: is pretty difficult. There is no Darnell Mooney. They're going
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: to be rotating a lot more guys. I think I'm
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: just gonna hope, and you're looking at the stone nine
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: and a half percent, we still do have him that
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: negative optimal or negative optam that we're talking, so I think, yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I just hope they pay the rake. I probably won't
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: play Penix. I'll play those three. I like caleble Lot.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if he outscored these guys in
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: a vacuum. He can do it with his legs if
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: they get behind garbage. Heine counts the same. Don't really
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: have a strong lean between Jade and Josh. I think
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: it just really depends on what you think the ownership
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: will be. We have it right now. Thirty two thirty
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: with Jayden slightly ahead. I wouldn't be surprised if the
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: gap was a little wider if you're telling me it's
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: those If that is the exact one, I don't know.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I think I probably would then take eight hundred savings
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: for pretty much the same ownership. But I guess I
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: gotta give Hoop another victory. Lap. I was wrong on
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: the Herbert stuff, the Keenan, the Lad it was like
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: eight percent, sixteen Lad thirteen Keenan, So Whoop, what do
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: you think it'll be? You have a better read on
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: this than me.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I guess I think people will look for the same.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think it's going to be massive
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: where it's like ten percent or anything like. I think
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: it's probably like if I had to guess right now,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen thirty three ish and then.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Like Jayden Daniels maybe.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Thirty seven ish. I bet it's within five four or five.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: We may kil of my favor probably then, because that
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: means he's got to get squeezed it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he does get squeet or Yeah, he's
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: going to get a little bit less than I think
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: those other ones. In my eyes, I think he's probably
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: low twenties, is kind of what I'm thinking, because it
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: is easy. It's still easy to play those guys. There's
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: not many salary constraints. We don't have a ton of
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: spends on the slate like we have Bijon at eighty
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: two hundred and then that's pretty much it. I mean,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: James Cook seventy one and o'dun'say sixty five. So I
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: think you're going to be able to get one of
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Jaden or Josh Allen easily, and most teams will do it.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: If you're playing Caleb Williams, you're probably going to be
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: leaving some money on the table. And the one thing
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: we know about people when they build teams, they don't
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: really like leaving money on the table. So I think
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: it's just naturally gonna push those more expensive quarterbacks up
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: a little bit. But yeah, I think it's probably within
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: five one way or the other. So it's probably not
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: a huge decision making maker for me. It just comes
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: down to preference, and you've got to be thinking who
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: has more fantasy points because salary really doesn't matter that much.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: And you know, in my eyes, I think it's usually
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen in the spot, so I want more of him.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: But I like Jayden and I really like Caleb as well.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: The main thing you got to make some sort of
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: play at this position, and like to me, is not
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: playing pen X, which I think we all kind of
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: agree on and it doesn't seem like a big move,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: but when you're talking a two games slate, it is
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: a big move because it's it's ten percent, and that's
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: essentially the rake right there. If it is not, if
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: you're right and it's not penex, you have an advantage
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: and it's a ten percent advantage and basically you're playing
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Rake free. Kind of.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean he'll probably come down some, but I
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: still think it's close enough to say that and for
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: sure agree. And I think the other thing duo, like
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the title said, that's what I love land Caleb, and
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I hope Colston Loveland plays because I think Caleb's already
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: in a good spot anyway, and I think it allows
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you to fit a lot more already gave my six
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars example. I care more about that, and I
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: think the ownership's right actually in that, like, yeah, he
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: should be five times Penni's in this spot based on
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: everything else that goes with it and what it allows
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: you to do for the rest of the stuff. It's
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: just I think others will find that out as well
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: the more they build and get to it. And I've already
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: done some of that stuff. So I think what ends
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: up happening is Caleb gets a little bit more, Panics
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: comes down to like seven, and then it's that's a
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: small number to spread out. But then it's it's more
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: interesting like the Allen versus Daniel stuff, but it's you
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: can kind of play whoever because you'll see it's it's
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: hard to spend the money on this slate, that's the
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: biggest thing. It's really hard to do it, and so
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: handbuilders are just gonna be able to go up to
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen. That's where I actually think we could see
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: it sort of be pretty close in the end with
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: him and Jadeen Daniels. And I think like the best
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: lineups look like when you go Caleb Williams, because they
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: stack nicely. You can get a run back in there
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: if you want it, and then you can still fit
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: like Bijon Cook or both. But I think it's more,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: you know, playing those Josh Allen lineups just as a
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: way to get different because I think that game, people
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: are gonna want Bijon a lot more, which they are.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: We know he's gonna be like almost ninety percent. I'm
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: interested to see what happens with Cook though outside of
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the you know the fact that he's easy to fit
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and a ford. So we'll go to a running back title.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I'll go with you there. But what do you think
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: about Cook? Because we already know what Bijon is on
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: this slaveh for sure?
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Cook. I like Cook a lot, especially,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Like the thing is, you can play cook with Josh Allen,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: you can play Croxy with or I'm gonna call him Bill.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: It's a lot easier with Jayden. Now that's my least
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: favorite one to pair with their quarterback. I think it'll
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: be a little different. The reason that's my least favorite
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: is like James Cook can catch pass out of the backfield.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: It can be so condensed with just Josh James Cook
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: scoring DeAndre Swift can catch passes Dijon obviously as well,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: whereas Bill's just more of the traditional he's first second
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: down guy, and then they bring in McNichols for third down.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Now talking running back, though c Rod is gonna be out,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: it looks like for the Commanders, and he was getting
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: some early down work. Bill took it over last week,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: but just another guy out of there. I'm interested to
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: see who they call up more so for Showdown, but
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Bill massive game early down back. He's my least favorite
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: to pay or with the quarterback. I love James Cook
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: though I'm only probably gonna play four guys. If it
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: was the fifth, it would be Tyler L's here. I'm
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: not sure I can click that name today. I'm not
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: sure there's a need to with Swift only eight hundred more,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Croxy Merit only nine hundred more. But I'm going to
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: play a bunch of these guys. I think I can
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: get overweight on almost every single one, and just get
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: overweight on three running back builds when a lot of
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: people are going to play two tight ends because of
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: what it saves and you could allows you to spend
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: up allow It'll also allows you to get Josh and
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Jaden a lot more. Two tight end builds will have
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: them at quarterback, when if you go Caleb Williams, you
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: will see more of the three running back stuff there.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I just want to play a bunch of these guys.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Who's my favorite, Probably Bill for the sense of I
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: can leave money easier like Bill can outscore Bijon, Bill
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: can outscore James Cook, and you get a good amount
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: of savings down there. So in really chalky lineups doesn't
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: have to be a one v one pivot. But at
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, I would be fine with it,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: especially from James Cook. If you look at our projection
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: sixteen point seven to one Cook thirteen point seven to
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: six Bill, you can throw Swift in there too. You're
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: giving up three or two projection points and you can
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: save a lot of money from Cook down to those
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: two guys. So I have no hot take at the
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: running back room. Besides, I hope Nick Nichols gets played
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: a bit, Alzier gets played a bit, and I hope
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: that's what pays the rake. And I just want the
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: four main guys.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a few thoughts and I'll kick it
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: to you who. But one is like I don't fully
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: get the four and a half points spread. I know
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Bills are on the road, but man, it feels like
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like Atlanta, are they that good or
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: like I have no idea, but it just seems odd.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I thought it would have been more anyway. I either
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: or I would still say, like I think that James
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Cook people forgot about this. They've been talking about saving
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: him and all this shit. The Georgia Bulldog going back
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: to Atlanta, going into his spot. I think this is
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: gonna be a good James Cook spot. I like him
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: quite a bit. You can play them without Bijon to
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: get different in some ways. You can play him with
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Jeon in that same game, get him in those other
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: lineups with these other quarterbacks. So I actually like James
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Cook quite a bit on this slate. I like Bill,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: who you talked about. I like everyone likes Bijon. I
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: think the most interesting though, are our first up Swift.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that ownership will be right, but
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: it's probably close, and that's fine either way, but not
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: many people will want to I don't think a lot
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: of people like playing him with his quarterbacks, so that's
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: where I think it could come down a little bit
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: even But either or I'll still take it. He's close
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: right now to the optimal and just slight negative leverage
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: on the Stone. And but again, if I think it
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: comes down a little bit, I'm fine, because then he's
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: gonna be positive leverage too, but I also like using
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: him with Caleb. If I'm going backups, I think it's
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Algier first, the spread, everything that goes with it, and
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: just thinking about how that could go. And somebody said
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: it this on a two game slate. I think you
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: can play, especially when it's who knows if it's Bill
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: or Nick McNichols, who I was gonna mention a second
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: might not need Swift. Maybe it is James Cook getting
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: stuffed and saved and whenever people are saying about Himcginness
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: doesn't have a good game. It could be where they
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: just try and keep that off and the Bills just
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: get ran all over. So if you have that feeling
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: or your lineup tells that story, I would actually be
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: okay with that. But James Cook is up there for me,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the backups would be Algier and McNichols. Because the commanders
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: switched their mind all the time on this ship, I
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: don't care what the numbers fully say. You would just
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: have to adjust that in your stuff and do it
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: that way, and then Swift, especially with Williams, as a
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: way to build out differently. But I really think it's
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: all gonna come down to wide receiver anywhere, but who
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I'll let you talk about running back first.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought some really good points are talking about
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: running backs. But I did want to was that an
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: official Tambo bet or just like the line looks a.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Little off real, like I actually thought our stuff.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I was thinking the same though. I mean it's down
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: to like three and a half in some spots, which
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I thought was crazy. Just it seems like just ah.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: That's an official bet. Yeah the record, I lost my
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: last one, but I'm saying, like that's yeah, that's gonna
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: be for sure. I don't want to understand what like.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: What they get at Oliver back too, and that's huge
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: for that. Bill's defense seemed very strange to me as well.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: It almost seems like trappy almost. It almost seems like
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: it's like too good to be true, because how are
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: they not favored byeth Like was my initial thought.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I like to, yeah six and a half to try
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: and love that way, but it doesn't.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was thinking as well, and it just seems
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: weird to me, And it seems like, yeah, it's like
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: three and a half in some spots, which is crazy
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: to me because like I don't think the Falcons are
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: great and the Bills are it could be the best
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: team in the NFL. And I get it's like a
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: primetime game and on the road, and maybe and they
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: they're coming off a loss, but the fact that they're
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: coming off a loss just leads me to believe they're
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: going to be more focused in winning this game. So
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: I might, I might join you and bet on some
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Bills And it just doesn't seem right. But in regards
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: to the running back stuff, yeah, it's like nothing crazy.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like there's anything out there to
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: come up with some crazy hot take. We've been looking
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: at this. But the one thing I do agree with
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: you on and you kind of touched on, I think
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: it's the main point probably at this position is DeAndre
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Swift because there's just no way he's going to be
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: the third in everyone's eyes. People are gonna want Bijon,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: people are gonna want James Cook, and then people are
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: gonna want to play Bill. I think he could get
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: squeezed a little bit. You know, it's a two game slick,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: so he's still gonna have substantial ownership, there's no doubt
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: about it. But I think he definitely is third and
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: fourth in line in terms of ownership, and he has
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: a very good role. He is a pass catching role.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: If if this position ends up busting, or if Bijon
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: doesn't have a massive game and you know Josh Allen
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: does it all on the ground instead of James Cook,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: like Deandres Swift going out there and getting fifteen could
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: be enough. And I think he can do that like
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: kind of in his sleep. I mean he can. He
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: can rack up a lot of reception. So I think
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: he's a very interesting piece tonight. But the other ones
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I'm good with. If I was playing one of the backups,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: it would probably just be Algier forty seven hundred. But
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I just don't love the pricing where he's just like
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: right there, like not much cheaper. It's not like he's
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: three thousand or something. He's forty seven. He's right there
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: with DeAndre Swift and Bill. But yeah, he would probably
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: be the one I would go to next after those four.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: But nothing crazy for me. I mean, Bijon is going
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: to be what like eighty percent.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: No one's fading Bijeon, Like I mean it's like it's
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: like someone said earlier, like the Chubb slate that year,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: where it's like yeah, like there's people fading him somewhere,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: but for the most part, we're talking about playing Bijeon
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and Algier together and hoping this thing is right. Like
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I don't I mean our man, Sean, he's the man.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But like, how are the Falcons good? They lost to
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys. They they got shut out by Carolina. They
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: lost to Tampa Bay, who beat Carolina the week before. Like,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I don't see anything good here about them at all?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: What did they do? They beat up Minnesota team once,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Like how is Buffalo not a big favorite here?
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: Maybe I'm just a beat So they beat Washington and
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: that was with without Jaden, Right, that was the week
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: that Mariota started, right, yeah think, yeah they did beat
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: at home, but yeah, Mariota started that game seven.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, their asses beat by the Panthers, smoked by the Panthers.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: They lost to the Vikings, and they lost to uh
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: the Bucks. So what are they?
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I thought they beat the Vikings it with JJ McCarthy
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: led Viking. Like it's like this is not like they're crazy.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Tell me about the Falcons being good, but they ain't good.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: So maybe tonight they're good and we find out. But
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: there's arguments to be made like the Bills beat a
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: shitty Ravens team which forty one to forty and they
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: both gave up a million points, and technically the Ravens
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: are beat up. But either way, don't really care who's
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: good or bad. I just thought that was the most
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: interesting thing to meet thing to me. But from a
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: DFS perspective, if you're gonna do that, imagine if it
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: was a showdown slate and that was the featured slate,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I would definitely be considering some stuff with that. So
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: you can apply that to this main slate just as much.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I just that was my takeaway from it all. So
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: teach your own if that's the route you want to go.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I just think there's so many other ways you can
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: go on this slate.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: But that's guess what yours touched on, propis?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: What is it? Something bad?
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: An he guesses it's it should be like plus two
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: fifty to three. It's probably like plus hundred's.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Plus two hundred, Yeah, But when you hear that at
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: forty seven hundred, I don't know. I'm sorry. I guess
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: the problem is receivers. You need to get the receivers
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: right today, like you keep saying that there's just a
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: million different guys like that's the position. So I don't
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: know if I'm gonna get cute at running back with
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: all the ear because even if our ear scores one
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and gets eleven points, like what percent let's say that
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: we know I was here scores eleven today, what percent
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: would you give them to be optimal.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Getting eleven? I mean they're strong. I don't know, it's good,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: probably be like twenty percent or something. Maybe.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes me know, like, man, you.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Got Bill Swift Cook Bijeon, you can there's gonna be
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: why this is also like a wide receiver tight end
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: in the flex type spot even with money on the table,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know. If I don't think eleven's.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Doing much, yeah, I'm probably gonna X.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I hope that they do. Like
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: everything I'm thinking, like more you need like three tds
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: from the falcons and they're all from those two guys
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to pull that off or something. I don't know.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: So Fanatics has it down to three and a half
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Bill's minus three and a half. That just seems I
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: don't know, it seems crazy.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I will say any time it seems that, like I
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: always know the other way.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: It's probably this. I mean, it's got in favor of
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: the Falcons, Like, yeah, it definitely seems fishy, and a
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: lot of times when it seems too good to be true,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: it is too good to be true. I'm not a
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: professional sports better and I'm a donkey, and I will
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: be firing on the bills tonight and I'm sure the
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Falcons will win this game.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, either way, we'll see.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: We're gonna find this to night. But I mean again,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: play accordingly. I think the biggest thing that matters most
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: is moving to wide receiver now is that you can
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: easily build a lineup and I know, like the de
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Debo sorry, questionable stuff, but it's like deep, like you
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: can play Drake London Rome and whoever your favorite third is.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: And I don't remember a two game slate in my
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: career playing DFS where that ever worked, where it's like
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: the oh, I got the nut three wide receivers in here,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna win all the money. It's like if it did,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: it was a billionway chop and if it didn't hit,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: which it never does, there was a ton of reasons
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: why and other stuff hit instead. So just because you
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: can fit those guys. Doesn't mean it's the nuts. It's
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: like a cash game thing. Of course you do that.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: You play the best projection, the best TV, like, everything's
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: gonna be in your favor. But when you're playing a
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: tournament with five hundred kop top and trying to win
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: all the money, you don't have to be stupid. There's
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: gonna be lineups that win that like, oh why did
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I just think of that? Well, it's like you don't notice,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: but they left eighteen hundred on the table and played
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: a wide receiver in the flex. It's like, oh, I
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: kind of got really good receivers, good correlation, left money,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: but they win and maybe even it's duped like it's
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: might not be. But I'm just saying that's kind of
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: how I think about it. Title what do you got
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: at wide receiver? And then going to some of your options?
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Oh man, yeah, the receiver is where like this is
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: what makes or break the slate. So I just like
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: going team by teams. So for the Bills, like when
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I'm playing Josh Allen, yes he can get it done
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: with his legs, but I'm definitely more likely to pair
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: him with pass catchers and a lot of them when
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I'm playing the quarterback, So Shakir Coleman, Joshua Palmer, Curtis Samuel.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Now we have to monitor, like the Curtis Samuel is
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: he going to play when Elijah Moore? Because it was
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: the showdown slates with New England and Elijah Moore was inactive,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Curtis Samuel got a big bump. He had a good
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: game too, So I'm hoping we get Samuel active again. No,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Elijah Moore. All four of them are very much in play,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: and like what I like about it. Curtis Samuel two
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: percent owned, Joshua Palmer four percent, thirty six hundred, thirty
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: two hundred. These are the guys you can leave zero dollars.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: You can play a lot of chalk. When I'm playing
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, I'm a lot more likely to play Palmer
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: and Samuel. My favorite of the bunch, I think's Keon
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: because I think he's just most likely to get a
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: touchdown and have a one hundred plus yard big game.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: So if Shakiir Coleman, I'm good more as one offs Palmer, Samuel,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: and I'm playing josh That's a way to get different
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: in those teams for the Falcons, no Darnell Mooney, I mean,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: very difficult season for him so far. Drake London clearly
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: the best receiver on the slate will be Chalky can
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: use him one offs. Hasey Washington's the name that people
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: are probably like, who the heck's that guy? He's mid
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: price three K. He's the one that fills in for
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Mooney directly, Ray Ray and the Clouds a slot guy.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Washington plays on the outside. We can see in Week
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: one when Darnell Mooney missed, he played ninety five percent
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: of snaps. Rey Ray played seventy five in the slot.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: It's clearly those three that run a lot eleven personnel.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I'm good playing all three of them. Washington will be
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: low owned, Ray Ray will be low owned. Guys that
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: can get in the box, get five six catches and
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: be a difference maker on your team. Bear stuff, it's
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: a Dounsa, It's a Keys, it's Dj Moore. I'd say
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Dj Moore is probably my least favorite because he has
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: a real price tag and he just it's clearly a
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Dunzay's team. It feels like I also think I don't
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: know if I'm gonna get to Luther Burden he showed
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: he has the upside, but off of the bye week,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: like Burden Loveland, I do expect Loveland to play. Ben
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Johnson's been talking about getting these guys more involved. Burden
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: a home run hitter. Probably would only play him with Kleb,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: but another guy that a completely difference maker. And I
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: think the keyst is fine too. Thirty five hundred, he
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: can get you a five for fifty something like that.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Ten could be enough Washington. This is why even if
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels is the chalkiest option, we're showing all of course,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Debo is gonna get some ownership. We expect him to play.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: He's fine at sixty four. I definitely prefer London if choosing,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: but Jalen Lane, Chris Moore, Luke McCaffrey, all these guys
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: will be very low owned. When I'm playing Jaden. I
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: want to probably play one of these guys in a
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: lot of teams because you can play chalk. One of
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: those guys get in the box that helps you separate.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if I really have too many
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: strong takes. It's just I'm gonna be probably fading Pennix,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: so maybe I will be the lowest town on like
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: a ray ray. But when I'm playing Daniels, I want
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Elaine Amore McCaffrey. When I'm playing Josh, I'm more likely
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: to play Curtis Samuel Palmer. And I'm fine playing four
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: receivers on this play too. But this is the position
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: that's by far the hardest. But I think I want
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: to lean into this low ownership because they're going to
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: be on the field.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to really take this with a grain
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: of salt, but I would say for sure with wide receiver,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: it's like on the slate like this, it's the whole slate. Remember,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: it all adds up. But I'm saying, like I'm thinking
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: about everything under one roof. We just talked to the quarterbacks.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: We rent running backs, like clear like we've seen stuff
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: there that we're saying like that's just the setup. You
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: are gonna have to put yourself in the position to
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: get lucky with wide receiver, And like I mean your
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: builds and stuff, you're optimizer, how are you using it
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: and see it like you can see it on the
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: stone what's good and what's bad. But it's like if
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I land on a lineup that doesn't have odonsay and
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: has burdened the third and that just leaves the money
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: like I might just leave that in some spaces because
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: it's like everyone will have odoonsay in that lineup. That's
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: why it looks so good is because it also has rome,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: and for me, I just know that I'll be chopped
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: up a million times more, and for me, I want
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: it without that. So it's all to each their own,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: but I definitely leave more room more subjectiveness on that
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: stuff where I'm like, maybe I'm wrong and it only
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: chops fifty times, but I would still want like the
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: one or two way chops. I'll just do it this
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: way instead. That's how I do it. Everyone does it
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: their own, But I just will note that I think
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Ned's made a good point. It's like all these olds
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: by the way back to my thing too. If you're
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: the title, you got a you got one in the
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: oven over there. So I mean, when you're raising your kid,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: forget like, teach them they gotta play sports, but then
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: teach them how to coach sports. This man yesterday is
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: getting forty nine million dollars from a college football firing,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: and he's getting Gruden is on freaking barstool sports collecting
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: millions of dollars that money. It's like we talked about
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Klingsbury speaking of Washington. You got all these guys now
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: that people are putting on the hot seat, more coaches
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: today for Tennessee getting fired. They just get paid and
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: they get.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: And then they'll get another job somewhere else. It's it's
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: honestly insane.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: That's why all these old heads do is they go
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: on the bye week and they sit around, have a
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: few cookies and milk like Santa Claus, and sit back
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: on their fat ass and like, you know what, we
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: gotta get that rookie involved this week coming up. Yep,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: all right, let's do it. Let's work out a few
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: plays for them. Boom. It's like rookies off a bye
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: is kind of a thing.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like yeah, I get that point. But Nate's
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: trying to victory victory lap the Golden dude, like he
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: had what three catches yesterday? Like dude, I mean, what
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: was it?
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I think he really hurt like a Craft and the
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Dobbs and stick up for my guy Naids. One time.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: You can't victory lap. You can't victory lap eight three
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: for eighty.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Six maids you missed the buddy on this one. You
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: said you should have said not Victory lapping ship buddy.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Oh Maids. Maids knows I love him, man, it's just
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta take your shots at him as
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: often as possible, or at least I do. And my guy.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: I look mad at your count Danny, but man, like
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: you know you're my boy. I'm never going to be
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: mad at you. But like eight this year, big dog,
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: it is not this year. Last year I took the
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: l all season long for you and your vikings. This year, no,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: it's not. The Vikings. J. J. McCarthy is not very good.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: They're they're in big trouble. So uh not taking the
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: alt but also not Maddie, you could never be mad
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: at you. In regards to wide receiver, I think you
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: guys covered it well, like this is where the slit's
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: going to be one or loss. I mean the clear
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: plays at quarterback, clear plays at running back. Wide receiver
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: is wide open and it could just be random dudes.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: They get the job done. I mean, every team for
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: the most part, has a well two of the four
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: have a pretty significant injury situation, starting with the Falcons
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: without Mooney and a great breakdown by by title talking
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: about this Casey Washington. He was out there the entire
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: time and he is three K price, three K Rayry
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: McLeod's going to be out there a ton thirty five
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: hundred and then obviously Drake London should get a lot
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: of targets. That's one team right there. You go to
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: the Bills. No one wants to play the Bills wide receivers.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: But let's say you know Josh Allen's passing the ball
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: today he can't run it. Then you got a lot
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: of guys Kean Coleman, Palmer, Curtis, Samuel all pretty darn cheap.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: The Bear situation. You know who it is. It's the
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: three main ones o'doonsay, DJ Moore, which yeah, I mean
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: it's definitely Odoonsday's wide receiver room at this point, he's
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: the main guy. Then as DJ Moore, A Zakiyas and
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: then Burden for the deep stuff. I do want some
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: burden specifically on the Caleb Williams teams. Like if you're
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: playing a lot of Caleb Williams, I'd mix in this
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Burden guy. I mean, he has big play upside. He
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: can get you fifty yard touchdown pass and then he's
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: probably on optimal and then the commanders are without McLaurin
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: and Noah Brown, so obviously Deebo's fine. I think Diebo's
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: officially listed as questionable. I'd assume he's gonna play. I
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: think there was someone that asked in the chat.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, and all these guys are we expect a
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Kinkaid like I'd be surprised if any of those guys
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: sat today.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna play. And then you know, Deebo, Chris Moore,
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: Luke McCaffrey has done some stuff. I mean, these aren't
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: sexy plays, but we're talking to two games slates, so
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: you at least need to consider it. I mean McCaffrey's
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: had targets. I mean he's had a fourteen Fantasy Point game,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: a ten Fantasy Point game, so you know he's done something.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Jalen Lane, if you want another cheap guy like this,
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: I think when we look back at this late and
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: look at wide receiver, it's going to be not something random,
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: but there's going to be at least one name here.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh wow, this guy's on the on the optimal.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Something wild could happen at this position for sure. We
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: have so many cheap guys that are have legitimate projections,
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: you know, looking at Zakias, we have him at eight
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: and a half. That's probably a little bit aggressive. We're
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: a little lower on Chris Moore, but he has a
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: real projection. Casey Washington real projection. Luke McCaffrey has a
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: real number next to his name.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Lane.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: McLeod, Josh Palmer. All these guys have like five, at
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: least five or six fantasy point projections, and they're all
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: super cheap, and we're at a position where one play
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: can make the difference. So probably gonna be mixing in
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: a lot of these guys just because there's so many
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: of them. If I told you I had the answer,
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: i'd be lying to you at this point. So I'm
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: just gonna, you know, mix and match as many as possible.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I got a mid show, mega mind. It's just coming
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: to me now. I think it's all coming together clear,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: So I think I'm actually gonna be underweight Josh Allen,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: overweight Pennix Junior, and then more Jaden Daniels. Pennick Junior,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: by the way, will still be my least own quarterback.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I'm just getting this all out. So the thoughts are there.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I think there's an interesting spot here where if it
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: is that fishy line or somehow they do come through.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I like James Cook so much, and I know not
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: everybody will be for that either, So teacher ow and
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I'm playing in my own lane, but I'm saying like
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: if I'm doing that. When we did the Leverage Lane
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: show a couple of weeks ago, Alex brought up about
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: the James Cook chalk slate. He was like, he really
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: needs something to push him to make him stay involved.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Twenty seven point team total on the road in Atlanta,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: So maybe it is like the Casey Washington, Rey Ray McLeod.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: They just do this stuff and if he gets enough
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: time out there to get it done. So in those builds,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I think that's the case. The other thing is about
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen is we got Jade and Daniels there for
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit cheaper. Jadeen Daniels squad has like injuries
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: and guys that are banged up. It's like am to me,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: it's like a much tighter tree. It's not super tight,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: but it just feels better with no McLaurin already, and
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: that's already set up versus on the Bills side, it's
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: always a million things, man, it could be anything for them.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: It's like the Mahome stuff, and usually Mahomes on short slates.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: By the way, cannot wait for this upcoming week when
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: everyone just jams Mahomes against the Raiders on the main
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: site with all those games. That's gonna be phenomenal for me.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: So I'm excited for that. When he's not on the
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: winning million Maaker again, I'll say that right now.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: You don't.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: You don't think it's a different, a different year, a
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: different I think.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I think your points in the discord last night were good.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I read them all. I think they were solid. Like
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: he is running more, it has been different, and yes
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: he's getting rice back and that's kind of the key ingredient.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: You added that these are those are super valid points.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I just don't. I still won't believe that it like
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: he's it's still it's more options, it's more thing. I
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: think he's an amazing quarterback. People always take it the
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: wrong way.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you never have said that. You've never said that.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: I just I don't see how it's like even tonight,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: why I'm having this mega mine mid show it's like
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: if Josh Allen, Okay, there's Cook, Johnson, Shakir, Coleman, Palmer,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: if Samuel's healthy, we expect kin Kid, Dawson, Knox, what's
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: that other guy's name? They got a third tight end
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: or whatever this guy is Like, Man, it's hard to
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: get that right. And if James Cook, who I like,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: has a good game, I think it's because the other
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: side pushed it. You could just put Bijon in there.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: But you can play Pennix Jon London and pick one
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: or whatever you want to do, or you can just
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: be on the secondary game with James Cook and some
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: other stuff there. So I just want to bring that
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: up mid show. But I think they're the other interesting
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: thing to Penix is if you do have the right
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Penix stuff, you are you took the one hundred people
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: in the room or the one hundred thousand in this case,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: and told ninety thousand of them to take a hike,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: and we're down to this mini line that are now
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: fighting for the top prize just in one swift move.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: We'll see if Swift is involved that maybe you want
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: to put Swift into those lineups because you're not playing
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams who makes the most sense. And I'm starting
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: to feel like the more I talk through the show,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Williams is gonna get boosted up here like it's Rome.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: It's people are talking about more. You talked about Lovelndon
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Burden coming off the buy and things like that. I
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: just I think that's gonna be.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: The The only reason I don't think that's the case
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: is because of the salary and how easy it is
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: just to spend up and people aren't. People don't feel
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: comfortable leaving chunks on the table. And the only way
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: that he gets up there in you know, talking about
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, is if people are willing to leave big
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: chunks on the table. I just don't think people will
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: do it. It's just easy to get to Alan and
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't disagree. I guess it's kind of
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: like the Pooka comment yesterday. I shouldn't say like gets
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: up there. I think like it gets. I think it
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: is that the more accurate number, whereas like Pennix could
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: end up being like six or seven, and it's not
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: a big difference in that gap. I'm saying like I
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: think because the cook Bijon Bill stuff is so common
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: you're already naturally forced into and then you like Rome,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: who's gonna fit you, like London with injuries and who's
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: gonna fit like you're already at your salary spent so well,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: there will be love for Alan and like Allen and
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Daniels could still be sixty five percent of the lineups
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: out there starting with them, and that's still a bunch.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying the pie side. After those two, that
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: thirty five remaining starts to feel like it could be
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: like a lot of that belongs to Caleb Williams as
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: opposed to Pennix. But if these Atlanta Falcons do, like
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: if for Alan to go off, and kind of you
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: think it's anything can happen in a bow up, But
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I feel like if they're gonna actually be involved in
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: this game and we are gonna get this interesting, weird
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: close spread thing and it's in Atlanta, it's in a
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: dome and all these other factors, could we see where
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: it's like Bijon, London, Casey Washington, Pennix and Cook and
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: then fill in the stuff. I could actually start to
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: see that a little bit more so. Midshew Mega mind,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: probably wrong, but still interested in testing it out and
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: a good site to test it out on because you
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: will be in a unique spot if you're going that route. Again,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: he'll still be my lowest owned quarterback. But just talking
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: it through for people, I think that's kind of a
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: different way of looking at it. Anything else, who at
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: the wide receiver? If not, you can go to the
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: tight ends.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: Nothing really to add I mean just we do have
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: a lot of plays at that wide receiver position and
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: a lot of different ways to play them. A lot
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: of cheap options as well, so it's going to be
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: interesting definitely at wide receiver tight end. You know, Kyle
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Pitts should benefit as well with with Mooney out, I
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: think he's a fine option. Zach Ertz another guy that
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: should benefit from the injuries in the passing attack, and
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: he's been pretty stable. And then kin Kaid has actually
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: had a pretty solid start to the season. If they
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: are passing, you know, he's right there in the conversation.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: And they're all cheap, so I mean, they're not spending
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: at the tight end position. After that gets a little dicey.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: A majority of the ownership's going to those guys. There's
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: been some Loveland Talk. I think he's a fine option,
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: should be very very low owned. Just need to make
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: sure he's playing. I'm assuming he's in. I think we're
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: all kind of assuming he's in. So I don't hate
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: getting some of him Comet Knox. I just don't know
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: if you really need it on the slate. So I
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: don't love double tight end builds. I don't think they're
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: gonna be very popular. I would definitely if looking to
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: play a cheap flex option, it would be the wide
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: receivers over these cheap tight ends for sure. But you're
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: gonna see a large majority of the ownership going to pitts,
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: Ertz and Kincaid. I do like the love one call.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: I know a lot of people have been talking about
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: it in the chat, and our guy Kenny is on
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: the level and stuff too. I think it's fine. Assuming
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: he's in. He's got the Q tag, it's going to
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: keep the ownership in check. I think he plays. I
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: think he's fine. He's the lowest own real tight end
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: on the slate. So yeah, good with that one too.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Title Yeah, yeah, I guess I'm more fine with double
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: tight end. I don't know exactly how much I'll have
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: but Ertz is one of Jayden Daniel. He's probably his
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: second favorite target right now with all the injuries. Kyle
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Pitt probably second favorite target. With how beat up they are.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: We know Kincaid's upside, and yeah, I'm just buying on
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: the leveland I mean five percent ownership or what we're
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: showing people like they the Bears took Loveland over Tyler Warren.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: They invested a lot of draft capital into this guy
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: coming off the bye week, and he was starting to
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: get going. It felt like in week five before he
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: got hurt or week three.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Excuse me, what.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Am I talking about? Week five was by he didn't
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: play Week four, but he had to catch. I mean,
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to call the guy soft. He's definitely
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: not Tyler Warren hard. But if he stays on the
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: field all game, it doesn't get hurt. Like in Caleb
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Williams' stuff. Five percent owned starting tight end that I
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: think we'll see his role expanded. That's something I want
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: to be early on. And we're talking to two games sleep.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Tyler Warren hurt. Yeah, this guy's fired up today. I
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: The best was Tyler Warren was like half his ownership
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: yesterday after the week before, everyone loved him, nothing changed
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: really at all. Was like, eh, guy sucks, now, let's
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: move away from him, and he just crushes again. So yeah,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: it was like it was the best of all of them,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think, but in general, just another good day
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: for him. So that's the way it goes though in
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: these games. I don't have too much else to add.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: I was just looking at something on here quick, just
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: to see like the money spent. I was talking about
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: this earlier hoop, like if you put bijon Cook Rome London,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: you know, random defense, whatever, it's like you can still
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: get to those guys easily. But I don't know. It's
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: it's hard to say what the ownership does there on Caleb,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: but I got a feeling it's still going to be
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: like twenty five to thirty and that's right now.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Also interesting, you know, correlation stuff really doesn't matter at
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: all on these two game slates are not at all
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: for the most part. But you have three quarterbacks. I
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: think that most people are fine playing without a pass
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: catcher Jaden Daniels, Josh Allen, Caleb Williams. On main slates,
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: people are fine playing those three without pass catchers definitely
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Alan and Daniels. So I think it opens up more
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: sorts of roster construction builds that we see tonight because
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: of the fact that those guys will be played and
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: it is hard just naturally to play a quarterback naked
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: on two games slate. But I think it would be
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: more in play for people when they go to build.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: One more question on that, because we're kind of wrapping
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: it up anyway. It's like defens as we talked about,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: like you can play your defense against quarterback it's a
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: two game or all those factors or whatever, But what
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: about the Josh Allen James Cook factor? Like James Cook
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: is still showing sixty to sixty five range ownership, but
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: do people want to play him with Josh Allen as much?
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Obviously there will be lineups that exists like that. I
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: mean more if you go Josh Allen, for example, what's
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: in the next step for you? It's probably like Bijon
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: and Bill and put those two in and like skip
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: over Cook to start with. I don't know. And then
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: when we go Rome London, pick a guy. Let's say
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: your guy is Shakir. I'm not gonna build the whole
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: thing but I'm just trying to get to like an
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: idea here, like where people could end up. Maybe it's Kinkaid.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: That's that's where it's interesting, because then you kind of
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: land on a two tight end build almost if you wanted.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: And I should go back and say, I'm fine with
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: the two tight end builds, but I want it to
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: be with the main dudes. I don't want it to
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: be like uh Ertz and then one of those ship
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: balls like I don't know, Dawson Knox or something like that,
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: Like I'm fine, no, no, no, I'm fine, Like if
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: it's the main guys like Pits and Ertz or Erskincaid,
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: I don't want it to be like with the low Yeah,
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: with a random I guess. So I'm fine with the
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: main dudes in there, because I mean Pits and ERTs
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: are probably option too on both their teams in terms
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: of pass catchers tonight, So I'm fine with those sort
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: of double tight ends. I just don't want a tight
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: end and then one of these random shitters.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I definitely am interested in Loveland. We're getting Tyler Warren
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: medium for thirty one hundred for soft pricing, lower pricing,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: so we'll take that. I mean, that's certainly interesting, and
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: you could pair him up with Caleb as that's going
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: to really cut into anything that happens on the Caleb side. Anyway,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: the number one thing I know is Swift will be
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: much lower on than the other three Cook Vijon then
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Cook then Bill, and I know the ownership show is
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: kind of close right now. We'll have updates to Locke.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I think I definitely think you'll end up coming in
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: a little lower just from everything I'm seeing then, I
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: think Caleb kind of is right in that range twenty
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: five to thirty. But Loveland will will definitely slice and dice.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Anything you're doing with Odoonsay with Whaley, like odoj is
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: gonna be owned for sure. So anything you're doing there
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Loveland is a nice way just to cut into that.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: And that's why I call it slice and dice, because
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: you're kind of just mixing it in to make it
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: lower owned that as a combo throughout, and I think
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: that's probably the way title is. Anything else you have
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: that you want to mention at defense or anything else
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: from that.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Standpoint, well, yeah, just a slice and that like why
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: I'm fine not playing Panics. You're playing Jaden Chalk or
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Josh Hawk and all that is. They're like every team
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Curtis Samuel, Josh Palm or the McCaffrey. There's just so
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: many pass catchers that are going to be under ten
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: percent that are going to be on the field of tons.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: So you can play Chalk Chalk, Bijon, James Cook, Jayden
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Daniels that then you play Luke McCaffrey. Well that four
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: percent right there, you talk about like in one hundred
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: thousand people, you just limited so many. I'm gonna be
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: whatever quarterback I'm playing, I'm so much more likely to
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: play these sub ten percent cheap wide receivers on that
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: same team. Could you get the touchdown correlation? Now, I
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: want you guys to try and sell me on something
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: from defense, because we talk about on main slates like,
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: well this week it didn't show a million maker at
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: four at defense because you got Booty right or whatever,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: even though some defensive scored, but usually like you'll need
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: the right defense today, and it's the most volatile position.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: It's so annoying. I want almost X one and then
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at him. It's like, do I just x
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: falcons because Josh Allen's a beast, but I don't know,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: like they're going to be low owned. I can't get
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: a grasp on defense. I'm either going to be boring
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: and be somewhere around the field on all because I
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: want to make stands at other positions I feel better at,
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: or maybe you guys can convince me on hoping one
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: of these pay the rake and I can fade so
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: on all ears. In terms of d I.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Guess like go ahead, hoop.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Oh, I was gonna say it's it's definitely tough. I
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: mean the obvious one would be the Falcons. I mean
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: going against Josh Allen, he runs the ball a ton,
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: doesn't make many mistakes. But then it's like, all right,
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: it's a two game slate and one play. If some
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: random thing happens where you know, wide receiver drops the ball,
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: they pick it up and run it in for a touchdown,
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: then you like need them. So I'm always hesitant to
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: make the big stands at defense just because it's literally
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: one play and they're optimal, Like, yes, it's it's tough.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: Like with the quarterbacks, you make the standout quarterback, it's
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: four quarters of play and they have to continue to
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: pile on the points and all that with defense literally
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: one play and you might just need them. So yeah,
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know. My favorite is going to be the Bills, though,
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, it looks like Washington's more popular because they're cheap,
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: But like the I like the Bills. I'm sticking with
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: that and the three and a half. I don't give
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: a shit if I lose money betting on the Bills
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: favored by three and a half in Atlanta. Cool, Like
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: we move on and I'll find another way to blow
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: some money. But I am gonna bet on the Bills
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: tonight at minus three and a half for sure.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the bets still, I'm sticking with that.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: But titled like the other thing is the speaking of
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: the slice and dice, Like it's right there, ninety percent
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: bijon and what ten percent Atlanta Falcons like cut into it,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: like let's just hope that's the way it goes, or
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: however you want to set it up. But it's the
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: opposite of probably the most popular defense. I guess Washington
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: could be up there, but I honestly still think the Bills.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: People just have the money and that and that's where
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to get to it, and it's
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: two hundred bucks more than Washington. They're against the Falcons.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I just assume that's what people will do. We'll see
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: ownership right now shows that the commanders could have a
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: little bit more, and that's possible. But yeah, either of
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: those two are gonna be popular anyway. I like Atlanta
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: on the opposite side. Four cheaper and as a way
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: to cut into it. Plus, you can have like a
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: James Cook two touchdown game and it's like, and the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: defense is not for a shutout here. There's not going
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: to be a shutout, is my bold statement for tonight.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: With these two games the way they're setting up, I
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: don't think we're seeing a shutout.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: Can we parlay that with the Bills?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is minus twenty like, it's not the odds
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: are going to be out there, So I think that's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: an interesting way to look at it as well. But yeah,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I think Atlanta is the one that is a little
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: more standout. From that perspective. You could say the same
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: thing about the Bears, but like, imagine a Bear Swift
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: combo tonight that is like the third sorry, the fourth
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: owned running back, I would say, And then it's the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: probably eighteen percent owned defense or something. It's like what
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing, So I think, like, that's another fine way
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: to do it and get different in that combo and
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: then be focused in on that first game. Hope that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: we do get the back and forth and it'll be
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: the back door cover hoop. It'll be you know, thirty
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: one twenty eight, there's something like that, and like, oh,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: we got the win, but only by three.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: I do like that combo, though, the swift swift bears
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: because you're you're talking about definitely the fourth highest stone
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: running back with three clear plays above him, and then
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: a defense that, yeah, probably third in ownerships. I think
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: that's it is appealing.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe I didn't bring this up because it's not affecting
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: any of my builds. It gets yellow. Kevin Roth has
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: a ten to fifteen mile an hour, wins, decent chance
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: of showers. But again it's all baked into everything. But
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: that alone. Maybe, I mean, Caleb can make mistakes, so
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: maybe it's the chalkiest defense right now. It's showing in commanders,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: but I guess if I had to pick one right now,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: it's maybe them. But yeah, you've talked to me out
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: of just making a dumb move at defense and being
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: stone dead. So I'll be playing all four.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the way on the slate. I
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: like that. I just looking at some of the stuff
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: you can do, like yeah, the the Josh allenline I'm
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: sorry are different for sure, so I wonderab we'll see
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: how it actually shakes out. Obviously you can. You'll put
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: all the tools. Go over to ship in Nation if
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: you want to check it out. Use code ship nineteen.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: That's a way to try it out. Getting the discord,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: start chatting with the community. All these conversations carry on
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: after these shows, which is nice if you are just
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: joining us. Hopefully you enjoyed title in a crop top.
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  Speaker 2: Make sure to hit the like hoop. Do you want
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: to do any extra for Showdown? Is there anything you
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: brought up for that or anything else you want to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: add to it.
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  Speaker 4: The one thing that stood out was the the these
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: wide receivers, for sure are going to be even cheaper
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: for the Showdown slate. Let me. I haven't pulled it
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: up specifically, but I know some of them are like
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: two hundred bucks. Yeah. Any own man Yeah, and he's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: one of those guys that has a real projection I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: mean he's going to be protected between what five and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: seven fantasy points. So we haven't really had a ton
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: of showdown slates where there's a clear two hundred dollars
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: play And they're the one thing I will say about those.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: People think they're going to get all the steam and
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: get so popular. They don't. It's always held in check
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: because when you play them, you're still leaving a lot
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: of money on the table. So it's never going to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: get to a point where you have to fade it.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: Like a lot of times we think these cheap, cheap
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: guys that have real projection, they're going to get so
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: high in ownership, and it never it never fully gets
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: there because you're gonna have to leave a lot of
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: money on the table and goes back the same thing
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: we're talking about the two games, like people don't like
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: doing that. So that's one thing that definitely stood out there.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so many cheap options like salaries so super soft.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: I mean you're talking a lot of guys with real
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: projections under three point five k's. The key is from
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: that Loveland Lane McNichols. You can go on and on.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: So that was also Jade and Daniels Caleb Williams like
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: a doing's say, it's gonna be a lot more concentrated
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: at Captain because you have the money to do it.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: So that's that's the easy breakdown I think for that game.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Yep, we'll have it all covered. It'll be on the
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: site so you guys can check it out. I know
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: the slate plan will go up shortly. The projections ownership
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: the stone for the featured game. I think it's a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: what is it two or fifty kp top of that
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: one tonight or is it two.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Hundred and it was fifteen dollars forty seven thousand people.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: I don't I had the other one. It's pretty good. Yeah,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: let's see.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Five hundred k and then the showdown on slate for that.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: So the first one's the stupid hunter K has two
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: hundred k for fifteen dollars? Is that one for tonight?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, hoop any final thoughts from before
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: we get out of here.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: No, Sirtain, Yeah, good luck to everyone. I mean there's
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: two game slate. It's a little bit different change of pace.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: I like them. Hopefully we can get some of these
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: shiping nation logos at the top of the leaderboard. Feeling
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: good about tonight Play.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: To Win title. Do you want any final thoughts because
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: you you opened up the show with the crop top.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: I know I kicked your way already, but anything else
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: you want to say about that? Because some people are
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: just joining now and they're seeing the beginning thing what's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: going on. At least they stayed at the end, they'll
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: get a final rebuttal.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I lost a bat, I lost a lot of
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: cheese yesterday and I'm hoping this two gamer can help
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: me get some back. Good luck everybody.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's the outro, all right. We appreciate you
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: guys for title, for hooping for myself to tack and
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: tambo let ship it ust to hand ends