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Construcción Plural - Programa 1174 · Construcción Plural - Radio Trend Topic

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Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
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season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts listen
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to it on radio train topic. Our President was an Argentine Nation, Dr
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Rabiero Mirey out Presided Hello. To all there is no stabilization plan, not
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good, but the delay to change. There' s a problem of currency
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arrears here. It is impossible to achieve the zero deficit in the twenty-
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four thousand. Ah well. It' s very little motasia. There is
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already a lot of equatoria, but you are not liberal. There were taxes
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as well as no, but one more three hundred and sixty- five times
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was known and it gives me three sixty s not or if there is no
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video and there is not you who invited me to be fede your noodle Cotuk.
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They want to know how the economy is going to grow, it'
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s going to go up like a diver' s fart. But there'
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s no anchor. Well, because there' s no comprehensive plan. But
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you should set the path. This is not a liberal government because it did
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not release the drug. Not because there is a changed appreciation and there is
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a changing appreciation, but freedom was little. How about, if you estimate
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very but very good afternoon. Here we are in plural construction averaging the week
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a full agenda. How rarely for a subject that is Venezuela. He obviously
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saw it in the singles of television in networks and the tapas of today,
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in the Loban case, which released more than a month the agenda, especially
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in fronts of morning newspapers and cable masters news continues to lose its centrality,
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won since Sunday and by the result of Venezuelan election, the fraud of dictator
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Maduro, as well as in the coup. In this case let' s
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say this of yesterday of the national government against the province of Buenos Aires,
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say quesilo for being tender of pepe or investment and the fall of the dollars
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and how to counterparticipate through the reserves. Today the strong free dro continues to
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grow in one thousand three hundred and seventy. He reached a thousand three hundred
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and sixty. Yesterday it closed in one thousand three novents ninety- five.
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I believe the count with Lik and the recover me a little bit are in
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thousand two seventy- four mints seventy and or respectively. And it' s
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strong and it' s an important fact of the day. It goes away
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at one thousand six hundred points the risk country falls two point eighty- four
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percent. It is in 1, 500 thirteen pois together, says Info here
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at four o' clock in the afternoon the United States and two to the
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conduits for opposition to Maduro isolated at the Argentine Embassy. Fraud in Venezuela,
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the front around quadrant mass, with the posture of mass always quite procio,
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ignored the mature triumph and demanded that the Minutes be published. We' re
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going to talk about it for a little while with Gustavo Carreri Golfelson three day
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and I' m going to tell you a little bit about the menu of
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this Wednesday' s cruel construction agenda, after distributing position of Dr Juan José
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Guaresti, talking about an exit from the ce because he wants to go there.
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We have with some doubt Alejandro Rosman, one two and we will be
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with our correspondents in North America, when he does not like parral Wolfenson analyzing
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Penezuela. It' s inexorable. I say when it is said that the
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minutes are published, as it is also called for in Europe in the United
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States. It' s just that little Brazil. It' s just that
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even though Tibio Lula we' re going to talk to me with punches it
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' s a while. It' s just that Well Cellula proves she couldn
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' t win. Let' s say not why he says evil and the
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meteoric ascent to reach gold in Paris two thousand twenty- four, the story
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of José Torres. We are talking about the only Argentine, this now with
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gold and now the olivestones have bronze gold and silver bronze silver. The big
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thing is to get a gold. Okay. Argentina got one through this athlete
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who has achieved the first medal for Argentina with his bike. I don'
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t even know what sport? What sport? What about volcan? Well,
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well, he won the medal and tells him about the evil one. I
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read a little about his story and other injuries and so on good to see
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what else before I greet him for whatst disputes here if the Milay and Petrona
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are planned. He was told by the president of a good interview, an
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interview that is generous. I' m a dirty Confantino talk. It'
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s been a few Fridays since Febay for Rio Negro. Well PFE and Petronal
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powerless revealed the reasons for the Black River accligion to bury their grave plant denounces
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with help China and that it is very pro- Western and very pro-
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Yankee with help to China. Employees of the TENE, which is the National
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Electoral Command of Groyuela, which matures says it is independent, when obviously you
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do not see it chavista. Apocryphal electoral records are printed, the regime'
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s strength is recorded. Interview, meeting in Argentina, the terrorist group Jamas
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these other news that emerged this morning horarico Argentine confirmed the death of its leader
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Ismail Hanni Jeck in an entire attack well good. Let' s go over
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it. Then you can go over the current situation a little bit. Let
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' s go over to the end of TV and I' m waving at
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him. Dr Watti and protests, repression, arrests and sixteen deaths so far
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generates more nation with few. It has been spoken of seventeen, eighteen and
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nine, sixteen degrees and very cloudy the sky for tomorrow omen of twenty-
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three and beautiful twenty- six by Friday. Enough of this cold. Neither
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will we see thirty- five, but good and less in summer at twenty
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- six degrees. This says that the nation more about Venezuela, chronicle TV,
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is in why federal justice calls Catalina clar are there or LOAN the possible
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escape route with LOAN follows the counter have disappeared. Forty- eight days ago.
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Zero two hours, zero five minutes, one hundred fifty- seven,
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three, fifty- eight, one hundred fifty- nine seconds c five.
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In former Argentina he announces hstigación to the embassy with the program before lamentable Real
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and the other unfortunate of Branca Telli. We are obviously talking about the new
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one in Venezuela, the Argentina pack in Caracas, exclusive to the witness and
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who knows what happened to Loan to twenty- four. He is also not
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with Venezuela and the United States asked Venezuela to approve the safe conduct I told
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him. Just said bae Costa Rica. Also what is political to those aided
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in the Argentine Embassy, etcetera, etcetera. Dr Juan José guarezt and grandson,
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my columnist friend from this program cor and good afternoon du I do very
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well. I was listening and is reflecting on what I want to develop today,
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which is the unfortunately good, controversial look. It' s what I
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think and it' s not going to be too much yocar, but I
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think the disappearance of currency stocks can start now. The geono clearly for through
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its President, said he was going to get it out. I say in
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the nude, but I don' t say the ugly one. I say
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it is now and for me, but to camp Juan José, what effect
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it would have to emerge now from a time that I don' t know.
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I heard Orlando Ferrere is a renowned economist vice minister of economics. We
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both interviewed her here. He said if today the blues stocks, it goes
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to 1 800 pesos. I think he said, for example, and that
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had an inflationary effect. I don' t know if you' re going
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to that or not, but I do know that you should start now.
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And they began to pray important way, because it is not possible that Argentina
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has the time to change or that says, as we all knew, a
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kind of maneuver with imports and contributions, but on the basis that imports are
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few or better said the foreign money that comes from deportations are little by little,
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they are scarce. So it means that the important thing here is not
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what we do in all those maneuvers that seem to be financially said, but
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that we carry more, because the more it means to take all the necessary
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measures to win markets and to produce more. Because there is one thing that
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seems not to be known, but it is known, example I the Serie
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for a long time, because I read the book too much, because if
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written of a thousand eight hundred eighty, if you lower the prices of the
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items that you are going to force, produce less and produce a means exports,
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which is an element that makes the peoples produce more. The more prosporten,
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the more they produce, the less Veneno esporten produces us and the lack
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of Argentine exports has been replicated in everything that is happening in the Argentine people,
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in poverty, in misery, in the closing of businesses, in the
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charity of production, all in the infloration, because inflation is directly linked to
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the amount of export and the lotation must be done correctly, and not on
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the basis of that deception, deception that, that is, we do not
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have these withholdings forgiveness. Let' s think a little bit about what retentions
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are, what the retention has to give, the withholding tax needs of any
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government, but they also stay because there was a flower of evaluation almost one
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hundred and twenty percent that benefit. Let' s say in terms of praise
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price. No, no, no, we' re not gonna lose what
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the word arrest means. We are going to go into language, because ideas
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are communicated with words and if you will give the words of war in ideas,
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subtraction, there is no part of the world in the gene have any
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why, because no part of the world is imposed on better production, when
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I say in one part of the world, it is not accurate, because
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some countries in Africa have it, but they are no, no, not
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computational. So what we have is not retentions, which have nothing to do
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with it. The word" good retention" for not taxing taxes, but
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it' s a way to make something that' s wrong. One taxed
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on chicken. We call myself what is imposed on production, we call it
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pretention and we have to put the true word, to be truthful, to
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be loyal to the public all over the world and to ourselves. We have
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a production tax that is called withholding tax, mocking the significance of the word
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for tribute. So what happens is when you fight a production impostor backs up
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in the amount of what you can fort. Because, as you said,
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as I said before, if you go down the price to something, the
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producer produces less. The price goes up something, the producer produces more.
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He didn' t make that up and talk to them. If you learn
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high school. So that' s it, then we have an organization.
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Let' s say with Luis that wrong. Why is he wrong, because
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we put a series of taxes that gravitate to production? And by gravitating into
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production, what we do that they produce less of course, the companies produce
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less of course, and the companies shut down or shrink or press personal or
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do not take or spend all that. If we, if we were to
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open gradually, but much faster than all of this what they are doing and
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we would produce more, there would be more than that. Our problem is
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that we have no wealth, we have poverty. And why we had poverty.
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Precisely because we are closing down, closing our international trade. When I
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was Argentina. Let' s go to history, when in Argentina we saw
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a lot abroad, let' s put a known historical moment of a thousand
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eight hundred eighty nine fourteen. It wasn' t really Brazil, but much
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more. Then what happened that Argentina produced a lot. Why because it'
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s already going a lot, it produced a lot and this seems to be
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rich. Argentina, in an eyeful moment, had more money to keep forgiveness,
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more gold kept than the British interior. And because, and well it
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doesn' t matter how sorry I had a lot of contributions. And then,
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that' s why people came from here from Argentina. Now they leave
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Argentina and why they leave Argentina, because they don' t see it the
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Argentines don' t just go outside, or they go to buy. On
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the other hand, go see what is happening in San Juan, Mendoza,
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Neucron, that everyone goes to Chile to buy things compas everything is going to
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be food, because it is cheaper than here. Then we don' t
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realize that, so we have to plow more than stop. We have to
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import more, we have to have an appropriate exchange rate to the reality,
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because I am not talking about retention destroys the exchange rate, because it is
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about the type of changes let' s say fixed by the government to bring
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tax to production, to the retention that I am going to call retention,
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when I have always said in class outside it at all times, even in
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rural society, that they have to never talk about the word re union,
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there is retention, has to talk about the parabile import, because that is
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how you understand, you understand in the world. Please, since I'
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m talking that I want you to listen to us, tell me which country
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you have on the important, the export and the carts were gone France,
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euros is that you can that, Mr Cool La. So it has to
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be Europe, in Argentina and the thousands of Argentina to be a country that
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is second on the scale of inflation backwards, first wins Venezuela and we put
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it a country that was very rich because of Argentina we cannot deny that in
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one thousand nine hundred thirty- nine forty was the seventh country for the gross
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product in the world. Then we can deny it because certain exact from other
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parts. We can deny it that in Argentina, from thirty- two to
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forty- three, if the inflation it had at one percent, but not
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one percent per year, one percent in eleven years, because and well,
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by all that it could, that is the truth, and produce everything it
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could still in the midst of war. We cannot forget that the President of
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Castillo, who well, since he was in the Prince President I took over
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Ortiz' s place, bought six, bought forty- two overseas ships.
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Now it seems like the state has jumped badly. I' m not,
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too, it seems like I' m not. It' s a second
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chance. This Mr Castillo bought himself or Dr Castillo, bought himself forty-
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two boats and sweet to the most he put the flag in Argentina and then,
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as it was the band of Argentina, which was a neutral country,
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forced everyone, carried him out double for a kid and carried him to a
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client it seemed and thus ended the war as a mountaineer who at the age
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of four disappeared. It doesn' t go then. In short, I
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think we have to look at all this Mr Haya stuff here, and you
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can leave that one to me. Exporting like this and importing, because Argentina
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has to import more what matters why I say this It' s not that
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it' s against the industa to Argentina or too much ameno. It is
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that I am to your a vor, because the Argentine industry also needs import
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items that are often not easy to get, or not directly. On many
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occasions I can' t get it right now. For example, then it
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cannot produce why, because it lacks decal or that it lacks the other demassian.
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Then there isn' t this one. There is no production of what
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must be produced by the product of duto incarnates. It' s gone down
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that that' s wrong. We' re going to grant ourselves. I
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can give you a heads- up. I can comment to see I say
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philosophically, I think everyone will agree. Someone who needs to lift the sepo,
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The theme is the time, the time, the gap to change and
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the reserves, the jump to change. I' m the one who can
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hit inflation. So the discussion is the momentum, that is, at what
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time. You' re all asking yourself. You say Fernando, you have
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to lift them right now, you have to lift them right now and what
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effects it would have gave The positive is that what you say no, what
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the great pre- lift, but that would have no negotiative effects to put
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together there. It' s okay. This Dora said, it' s
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not okay, but what effect is negative, because not a jump, the
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exchange rate. It is not negative or negative, but I know that the
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most, the most are positive and the forgiveness to see more than at this
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moment in Argentina is a tubor that we call a team the planmores. Let
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' s get two out. Right away, how long the guy' s
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been around, how much better the guy' s been in all these years.
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We do not base this experience to remember forgiveness that the government of Macro,
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the most liberal government, raised it and then gave it to him,
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had to put it again to regulate the Church' s departure chapter. It
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should be forgotten that the Macri Government, unfortunately, had one thing that was
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also scandalous, which is a terrible definifiscal caused by the amount of unnecessary employees
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that the Argentine Republic has and we see unnecessary tasks every day in the newspapers.
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For you to have an idea, there' s an article from a
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colleague of yours cabots that he made a series of calculations about the number of
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employees I' ve seen and I' m going to allow myself to generate
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it because I don' t get used to it. No problem. It
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was the best match to read it and it' s not a factor expense.
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He said that interviewing 1 5 public employees in the national, provincial and
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municipal states was two million five hundred seventy- two six sixty- five,
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he says. In the two thousand and five, in the two thousand and
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twenty- three, the municipal jobs were three million, according to chaos that
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that very different school of his three million nine hundred and sixty- four thousand
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and five hundred and fifty- three, that is, there are two million
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more public employees. Although it seems to them that a country can function that
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way. No no and it' s a topic that you have are the
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two hundred, two million more are people who, in many cases, if
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they were given it was a serious or serious job or if I taught them
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more or if I immediately looked for him how working on something else would be
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fantastic for the country. Yeah, no, no, it' s not
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easy because he' s not trained. And it' s not easy because
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there' s no job generation either. It' s not that easy either.
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But philosophically, or plus it says that even states could, for example,
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right now go out on the street to produce people who would fix things
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that you were technical in fixing divisor offices. Yeah, well, that would
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have to have a state training. No, and you had to put Mr
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Started, did or tomorrow and I' m going to tell him one thing
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that, maybe it was the I don' t know how, how it
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was going to look. Many years ago, two in your France, the
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government fans that I say non- revolutionary, was attacked by the Prussian army
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and stop Austrian. Well, then the government didn' t begin to dissolve
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what I was saying until a man who had a framed heart appeared and said
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his famous speech that I would say in Spanish because but then I had decided
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in French. He said in order to defeat the enemies, gentlemen, it
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is necessary the audacity, still the audacity and always the audacity. Bulle bancle
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megié and it was the author you treated on the spot. It' s
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a bold one and you' re a famous speech. You have to have
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a bit of audacity, too, because when you got into rock man,
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it was fighting with the kids who had less troop than crosis, which was
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that they already had the kids. And, well, there was audacity and
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the son is perhaps also the d fit Decia Argentina had a hard time and
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with that time I said all the independence of forgiveness one thousand eight hundred sixteen
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and already I came in the Spanish army that has recovered there in Spain,
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to fight with us and there I saw that we rose the us we removed
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the independence. Eh or not. And then, well, it wasn'
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t the hardness of Mrs Sas that St Marquín' s plowed her to charrene,
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finally all the peas, everything that were there. Of course, they
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were bold to take off. I knew it was a priori that I had
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fucinated ten minutes later and yet, it was good juice. I don'
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t think he' s gonna just turn up that barbarity. I don'
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t think so. Yes, yes, and Jesus stronger, because for me
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to assume production, because to receive the ability to buy what we are going
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to see a energetic government that says yes, sir I take it there does
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not take here what risk is taken with what is being done to do the
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same thing, the tumor that is so called techniques in that well, technically
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yes or no. If it was recovered this yes we could between us this
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almost how many years we have this guy and the one that has improved in
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Argentina with the egepo. You can tell me someone didn' t find the
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one. Then it means to dimate time and dilate what is wrong and what
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is wrong with correcting it. The sooner the better, Juan José, my
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friend, a taste as always. Lucky we couldn' t have phone problems
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today, so, well, it was a pleasure. We couldn' t
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make it on Thursday, but we supplied it today, so a taste as
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always. We met again a few days in agreement. Why could you talk
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to me? How do you know, why can I talk to her?
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I hear it a long way. I don' t understand. What could
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he talk to me about, I could talk to you yes, yes,
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because he had to, because with h I' m losing it. Now
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you do come the grandiose out of audacity, ah b o ok, for
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now we could speak perfectly. Well, a big goodbye. Dr Juan José
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Guareste here in plural construction.Álvar Don Juan, we put on a first
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audio. So, then we don' t have that tomorrow. In principle,
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we got a long chat. We' re going to spend half an
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hour talking to him. Political scientist Eduardo Fidanza. We put on a first
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Rockman audio with the idea that if we walk well with Gustavo Farrey in a
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little while, we also say goodbye with the second rome. But at least
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now let' s get on top, we go with audio rosma we hit
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batch and then we have surely with Gustavo connected by sums. Here we go
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hello how is Alejandro rock Forman in his babicho column of the highest days of
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the week. I do more because we have read more than usual because for
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me the most burning issue of the current economic region is the issue of the
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Central Bank' s reserves. For three or four days the Bank has been
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losing reserves above$ 100 million a day. It is not necessary to look
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at how much it sold to moderate the rise of a set of exchange rates
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that it wants to be lower, but with what resources our economy counts to
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meet the commitments of the external sector in all the Argentine economic history, but
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more in the last fifty years, when you enter a zone of stress,
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that is, when the negative trends of level of the reserves reach values supposedly
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insufficient to guarantee the payment of the debts and above all the same of fall
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is very big. There is a simbronazo in this extral sector, that is
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to say, the collective fear comes into play. The tendency to extract resources
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that have deposits is accentuated, for example, in the dollar agorro accounts and
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the outcome becomes tremendously dangerous a morning diary of which I read at the wake
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of each day. Today I was running or commenting on the Central Bank'
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s reserves are a colander. It is really very much committed to the situation,
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even more so when following that century of negativity. Today it is estimated
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that net reserves, that is, what really exists in the vaults of the
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Central Bank, as discounted reserves. The debts already contracted in advance, mark
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a negative number that was worth according to the estimation of economists in charge of
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doing so, but that does not base on the six or seven billion dollars
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is very weak. Then the support there is to deal with the credences.
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The Government continues to sell dollars, trying to lower the exchange rate, the
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one with inspiration or the met, and even, of course, the ileal
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dollar, because that has an impact on public opinion and then it is not
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seen out, because the producers of exportable goods, especially the wafers, do
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not deliver in the virtual amount of years past to exporters so that they place
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the product and we receive the resulting dollars. And there are no other items
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that replace them for the time being, especially since in the period July December
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the bulk of the marinzi and soy harvest has already been sold for arrest,
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and there is no replacement until the end of years, where the repertable balances
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of trio usually reinforce the income of foreign currency and there are about eight billion
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dollars to pay from here ay January indefensibly cannot be renewed. They are of
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interest of bond that contributions, they debts contrary to to the top has been
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alleviated the situation of the importers, who are at that moment receiving more than
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what they received until recently. There are courses in dollars to pay for purchases
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abroad and then the panorama looks really dangerous, without the intention of creating unfounded
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terrors, but based on concrete data. The Minister of Economy, who took
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office with the promise to conceive of twenty or thirty zero million dollars. It
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has not achieved five hundred and, moreover, the risk social country, the
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rate at which it could be obtained today credits continue to rise, it is
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about one thousand six hundred points, that is, every loan that is obtained
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from abroad in a hard way to come at this moment interest that increases the
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normal financial operation sixteen points of fullness, that is, it adds a value
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that makes unviable any financial operation of medium term. We do not know in
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the outcome the government continues desperately looking for the price of some dollars, but
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30:02
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30:07
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30:15
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30:21
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30:27
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right, all right. Here we are sixteen, thirty- one and the
31:45
day is still fresh. Let' s see if we can talk about four
31:49
or five spoons. I' m going to ask Don Gustavo Farrar and gross
31:52
you wait online to see if I' m allowed a little bit more brevity.
31:55
So we make it a little bit more dynamic that I want to ask
31:59
you a lot about Venezuela and not make it happen what you see so much
32:01
for these hours in the media. Don Gustavo Farrelly wolfnson my friend and our
32:04
correspondent. So in North America, how it goes, how you' re
32:07
sounding very good afternoon. Where you give the minutes saved. No, I
32:12
don' t have the g Who said the polls are well guarded. He
32:17
said some of his engineers in Argentina exactly gakeri galtiere good. Who any good
32:24
after happened what happened to him. No, so let' s hope they
32:30
don' t keep them that good. We can do a little bit more
32:35
of not say ping pong, but I say mark four or five little things
32:38
that don' t extend so much in each answer it may seem a little
32:42
bit dynamic and a little bit more or an ante. John Paul had told
32:45
me to read it if I don' t remember. If it were last
32:46
week, ten days ago, Fernando said it here in the air, there
32:50
has to be a very broad sun all in favor of the opposition so that
32:52
Maduro does not attempt the mpraude, but it is probable, he said,
32:57
that Chavismo is negotiating more on how they are going to confirm that the polls
33:01
have sixty percent in with another and that selection, that is to say there
33:05
was as a propositional look that good was so hungry for defeat that they had
33:08
no other left but to seek a little impunity or immunity and leave. In
33:14
this sense, you are the ones who surprised him what happened this Sunday,
33:17
or you saw her coming and that of what you believe. Well, this
33:22
regime falls through the polls, it' s not going to fall. It
33:24
falls for a good military uprising. Evidently, I say. I thought there
33:32
was going to be a negotiation process in the face of such an abysmal difference.
33:37
I don' t know if of immediate recognition, because I have two
33:44
experiences very close lived. One was Daniel Ortega at the time, not in
33:47
the last elections. Well, I won It' s a little mature today
33:53
I' m leaving, I' m staying. I don' t mean
33:57
this result. No one' s arguing and I' m saying it and
34:00
it' s like that. And the other, which was a little bit
34:04
Bolivian, the last one doesn' t come from Ebo when I say the
34:09
opposition is the one that made the frauds, not then like that, well,
34:15
I didn' t make fraud. It' s the opposition. Let
34:17
' s say it' s the one that made the fraud and that'
34:22
s where the situation arises, let' s say, and the conflict in
34:28
this case, obviously, I think they took for the great Daniel Ortega to
34:30
say in this is result. The numbers that they themselves give the sum of
34:35
the confidants exceed one hundred percent. They must have told him this good one.
34:40
You won by fifty- one. He didn' t tell you sixty
34:44
- three. We' re fifty- one, that is, half plus
34:46
one guy mouth and from there, well. That' s how we started
34:52
to see how. Obviously, I feel that the international position has not been
35:00
good either, it has been, let' s say, strong, but
35:06
they are not asking for things either. They are not saying recognize the triumph
35:09
of the opposition. Says show the minutes. No, I mean, we
35:15
' re asking you to show the minutes. If the minutes say that you
35:20
are the great triumphant ahead, if you gran, what happens is that today
35:24
you translate euphemisms. If I ask, I ask anyone who asks him mature
35:30
to show the minutes. He' s implicitly telling her how you lost.
35:35
Not exactly good, but notice that diplomacy and diplomacy are very diplomatic and either
35:40
I told you the experience lived back in the nineties, precisely Sandinismo, the
35:47
Chamorro violinist, when the whole dome also went and told Daniel this decided we
35:53
have the souls, we have the militia, we have the street. All
36:01
you say is give us the order and the elections are as we want.
36:07
Evidently, there had been strong pressure from James Carter. I was watching directly
36:15
I had been and said no, Daniel, you have no room for anything
36:21
here. Evidently, there was no pressure or notice that those who go out
36:29
immediately to greet him did not. Daniel Bueno arse from Bolivia, the issue
36:35
of how it is viascanel in Cuba Good Chinese Putin or what to say to
36:44
see us is the environment that we are defending you and not even and the
36:52
other organizations have been inclusive. Okay. I think the most surprising thing for
36:55
the region was the immediate declaration of boris Amo a bor and I tell you
37:00
so, I love management amonos tea the guy can be from the left,
37:07
but I also don' t know how to be a fraudulent. Yeah,
37:10
yeah, no. No. Well, prete voo notice Amlo' s position
37:15
even not that it' s been enough to see what Amlo' s position
37:17
is like. Well, amlo said to also not terribly ambiguous Monday at the
37:23
first press conference. He said good. The Electoral Council has said this result
37:30
based on 80 percent. Let' s wait for 20. Let' s
37:37
wait for the minutes. Yesterday he launched himself totally against the OAS, saying
37:43
what that kind of interventionism had to do, not that they did not respond.
37:47
Okay. The result will be when the minutes are fully counted. It
37:53
is a little along the same lines Claudia Shanban said, not so aggressive against
38:00
the OAS. But there, since we say Andres Manuel went to the jugular
38:05
against the footprint. No, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
38:07
no, It is seen as a very progeny organ, but to be very,
38:10
very gross. Sure. Yes, yes, I remember, but good
38:15
to see, but under the same circumstances ah and told us that he didn
38:21
' t get into internal affairs. Yes, yes, well, the one
38:24
you taught me the stand doctrine, not historical. Well, but under the
38:28
same comments and we started to analyze he got into the result of JAVIERR.
38:34
My law. Not that. That' s why they have to use it
38:37
when it suits you, when you don' t think so. Obviously,
38:38
it is not so that I think it is also a question of what will
38:47
continue in the next few hours. Obviously, the Minutes do. The Minutes
38:53
are not going to be given if they are going to try to accommodate them
38:59
at this time, as we did in the colloquiums, in the examination review.
39:04
I believe that they will directly lose much more credibility. Then we'
39:12
re in the big one. Daniel Ortega, I don' t give a
39:15
damn about a phyto product, I don' t give a shit what I
39:17
do. I won I won I won I won. You' re missing
39:25
a leg that maybe not because I rushed you and militarized everything and I say
39:30
in there' s a chase from what' s clear, but look,
39:35
look at that that I position it up to the guys who go out with
39:37
the bikes to kill ro positos or to liquidate or to fear possible that even
39:42
that' s not armed forces. You don' t, no, they
39:45
' re not state parasites, they' re state- run, because you
39:49
notice the comment. The Sunday I was in a Latin American network analyzing we
39:53
brought you a contact that was inside one of the bunkers. Let' s
39:59
say about the car and he was doing a pretty interesting analysis with respect to
40:08
the armed forces between the dome and the soldiers. Soldadesca in the sense was
40:14
to see those people. Today he also lives in preary, precarious economic situations,
40:22
like any Venezuelan, he is not a party, that is to say
40:28
we return a little to what he was at the time and it happened to
40:34
us who fulfilled or who did the business, in this case the repression and
40:38
those who obeyed orders of the dome. And that same thing is happening Menezuela,
40:43
that is necessarily the fact of taking the army out into the street.
40:49
It would be necessary to analyze which army or which domes are using forces.
40:54
Let' s say military crash, I don' t know that for security
41:00
force. In this regard, no hello, yes, yes, I'
41:06
m listening to you yes, yes, yes, and the role of Brazil
41:08
because I say something happened very log you' re listening to me there you
41:15
don' t, we lost to see Gustavo fell. Ah fell, or
41:20
well he calmed down. Let' s see if we can get back to
41:22
it. I was going to ask Gustavo about the role of Brasil de Luna,
41:24
which was the expected word, which everyone also expected, who nedismo expected
41:28
Cristina. Time she' s gonna have a new masterly classes coming up.
41:34
Many were waiting for Lula, while the gyners were waiting for Cristina, who
41:37
had not so strikingly quiet and repudiated able totally that also Kislov where it is
41:43
more audio. The Nedor front came out with its historical line, as we
41:46
said, but Yankee bought non- American to question mature. But I say
41:51
first in an interview that was a telesur Lula interview, saying no the process
41:52
was a normal and quiet day and then, two hours later, it came
41:58
out of a call that was American President. Vain online a little with America.
42:02
With this I say, when one says that Maduro presents the minutes and
42:06
everything is well telling him, Maduro recognizes defeat, let' s say no,
42:09
but it was quite ambiguous. It was quite rare and pre and also
42:13
the interpretations that were made. First because Lula' s such a bastard.
42:15
In the end Maduro is an accomplice and then playing for the North American side
42:20
with the communique comba and then ah got demanding and is putting against the strings
42:24
matures It is very ambiguous about Lula, which was what he wanted to talk
42:29
to friend Gustavo. I don' t know what happened to this one.
42:32
Let' s see if he' s not a kid, talk or whatsapp,
42:36
but if I died, see, well, let' s see,
42:39
if we take it back, see what we can do, because we have
42:43
plenty of time. Well, let' s see, we do the following
42:46
my friends and I say it Juan, especially we go with a little bit
42:51
with Rosman and if he goes in to Gustavo, to see let' s
42:53
leave Rome, let' s remember that he' s at least three minutes
42:54
old. If between Gustavo we bank or three minutes, let' s not
42:58
cut immediately that Gustavo Banque, but we' re going to buy time with
43:00
that okay, so let' s go with the second audio Rockman and see
43:02
how it goes. Thank you. I would now like to turn to issues
43:07
that have to do with economic developments. I' m not going to give
43:13
many numbers to not reach the audience, but it' s very interesting to
43:19
see how the prospects for productive reactivation are becoming less concrete and more healthy.
43:24
In June there are already fairly widespread data on the dynamics of economic growth and
43:34
it can be said without any doubt whether there is a very accentuated recessive process
43:42
and we have obvious signs of reversal. There are some punctual lights, such
43:50
as the improvement of the real wage for those registered in the months of April
43:55
and May, but even they are not enough to order in tax the sharp
44:01
mismatch of the real wage resulting from the monster devaluation of the December ceres of
44:09
last year was symbolized at the end of the first quarter of that year.
44:15
It has a global fall of the real salaried of twenty percent, less intense
44:22
in the sector of the registered ones because the collective labor agreements in their review
44:27
have moniphered the fall, but very hard, especially the huge informal labor sector,
44:34
whose negative balance of the economic policy of my law in the first months
44:39
of that year has led them to lose intervention to thirty percent of their salary
44:45
level. There are data, for example, of the situation of the industry,
44:52
which has a negative ageing in the month of June of twelve percent according
44:58
to all the private intimations and the unions of the ali companies and there was
45:04
already from already by some loose numbers that twelve percent negative from January to June.
45:10
With regard to the same danger, the previous year will be accentuated in
45:15
July and most likely in the rest of the year. First because in the
45:20
month of July it is already indicated that the fall could be around 17 percent
45:24
and in the rest of the year because it is going to be comparing a
45:30
semester, the second of that year, that it has not seen reactivation,
45:35
with a second semester last year, in which the industry, which had a
45:38
positive behavior is to the data of the sale of automobiles, for example,
45:45
has been forty percent in June. With regard to June last year, the
45:50
data on the sale of agricultural machinery. In a context of reactivation of the
45:55
production in the wet pampa, in some adjacencias of socereals and the thorny hole
46:02
and of the thick harvest, the machinery already agricultural as a whole dropped by
46:09
17 percent in the first semester With respect to the previous year and all the
46:15
indicators that accompany consumption omercio, some additional services key construction in all cases,
46:27
that month closes with negative values and the main commentators of the national economic activity
46:32
enrolled in centers of studies and specialized consultants without exception. Plural construction led by
46:45
Fernando Mauri by radio trained friends if I am here good, perfect, perfect.
46:54
He said when there was just an interruption that he was going to consult
46:58
with you and tell them a little recent about Lula' s very ambiguous position.
47:00
I don' t think he went to Telesur. First a statement the
47:04
night we' re all waiting to see. What Brazil said, which is
47:06
the President of the country Brother Well, it was a normal quiet day and
47:10
two hours later a communication came out that I think came from the United States,
47:15
from his telephone meeting with the President Viden It was good to show the
47:22
minutes, so again show how you predicted or is very ambiguous Lula. Not
47:24
clear, yes, yes, yes, obviously, it is the interests,
47:28
no, but neither he at a time where he is or has tried to
47:37
reverse his own image at the head of the continent' s leadership, so
47:45
he cannot stick to a product of fraud either. No, then it'
47:50
s pretty, let' s say limited or content. Content would be the
47:57
word. As for his position, no, because he does, not even
48:00
the Chancellery does. No, and the pt his party was in favor of
48:06
mature. Not exactly good, as they say the champagne too, but the
48:13
milling rope that the capora disproved it beyond the fact that virtually her little heart
48:15
is there. He' s been denied. Yeah. Yes, yes,
48:17
yes, Mothers, I think he approved. No and some unpresentables don'
48:28
t. I believe it was or something like that. Yeah. Yeah,
48:30
yeah? Yes, yes, including our former ambassador to the OAS. No,
48:36
the old radical Raimundi, Well, Raimundo was an observer. It'
48:40
s a progressive ladi. Let' s say it like that. No,
48:42
as Artemio López said, it is not given by progressives that I believe,
48:47
several. Okay. I think my colleague is also a Carbarian today, unfortunately,
48:54
turned to this situation as Santilio Morón gave us. O. Okay.
49:00
I think in the case of some, it has to do with I'
49:02
m going to be bad, I' m going to be cruel with money
49:05
not. In Borón' s case, it has to do with money.
49:07
It is also possible, well Chido Brasil, ambiguous López Obrador, more or
49:15
less, because I say the pressure more than the United States, which was
49:17
key, which is obvious where it plays. It could be a little bit
49:21
of pincer operation between Europe and Latin America. I say how the movie goes.
49:23
The regime is already repressed with parastatals, not military, as you said
49:27
on the street, but it goes for opposition leaders or to have them.
49:30
I mean, of course, he wanted me to follow the movie. That
49:34
' s why we' re getting back to it. I don' t
49:36
see a scenario very similar to Nicaragua' s two thousand and eighteen. Yeah,
49:42
yeah, yeah, yeah, I stay and I win and I lose,
49:45
but I win and I stay, I lose it again. Then this
49:51
one I won good. I' d say I' d get caught up
49:55
in it. In my own situation. My allies are the three four that
50:00
we already know are there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. China
50:02
will be clear by now. I' m still doing my business, which
50:07
is getting more worn out. I mean, you see, you understand that
50:10
the regime is not going to turn itself in for the elections. Losing a
50:15
selection is not going to be a good motivation, let' s say,
50:19
but I say wear and tear exists. There' s a whole network of
50:22
corruptions and so on. The issue is nothing, I mean, I don
50:23
' t even know, until they turn the military around for something they lend
50:27
it a better deal. That' s why Nicaragua has two thousand and eighteen.
50:32
I mean, I' m still with my army. Not necessarily military,
50:39
but military of sen dores, et cetera. I keep doing my business
50:45
you eat historical allies and I don' t give a shit about anything else.
50:50
I don' t poop him all over the international community. I continue
50:53
like this even as you say good that it really falls like that old novel
51:01
of killing the Lion that appears a new messiah does not and assumes the new
51:09
patronage of the future Venezuela. But that messiah is going to be a post
51:15
- maturism, a post- chavism, or the opposition is going to come
51:17
out. It was such a persecuted position. Let' s say that today,
51:22
under the circumstances, we could say that the Lord God given says good
51:27
mature, you' ve had your time. Now I show you a face
51:30
wash. I am the new no, but that the opposition, through the
51:36
Azurnas can reverse today I do not see it, already tried with a seemingly
51:40
abysmal difference. So which one isn' t. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
51:47
yeah, totally yeah, well, aside you see that, because there
51:52
was a triumph of opposition laundered by some MPs and then shut down Congress.
51:58
It' s an assembly. You agree. I' m not saying admitting
52:00
a defeat like that reversed her looking for a turn. Not like that,
52:05
it is. It' s good. That is why it has been seventy
52:09
- two hours of this ada situation today. It hasn' t been fulfilled
52:14
yet, and we' re a little in limbo. Those who see we
52:20
criticize inwards and his position of criticizing outwards. The issue is how far does
52:29
it stand? Doesn' t it look like it' s holding? Does
52:35
it look like it' s holding? How much we' ll see.
52:37
That is why I think it would be an excellent analysis of here eight days,
52:43
to say again well, ten days after the elections, where we are
52:47
standing and who had to see who was right, but who survived this situation.
52:54
No yes, I can see how I can beat denu I' m
53:01
not a ternational sport. I thought the defeat and transflagante a little bit in
53:04
line with lole that I almost looked at more impunity, immunity and exit bag
53:08
Now, after beating me with reality, sometimes by my own naivety and mixture
53:13
of desire, I also think that the regime is obviously saying, weakened everywhere,
53:19
or being reality by the population and isolated, but also by the population.
53:24
But, on the other hand, as the resources have, the weapons,
53:28
all the stratagems are going to pursue protestor opponents. I saw him yesterday
53:31
at a Farmacity. It was a city form. I took care of an
53:35
Argentine woman. Next door was a versional and they were talking to her and
53:37
your mom how you are. I was telling the Venezuelan girl to the co
53:39
- worker in Argentina. The mother lived in it was done all this I
53:43
deduced. I lived in Venezuela. She' s not sad and depressed and
53:45
she goes out on the street because we' re not forbidden to be.
53:49
I say repression is strong than what I say and I think there' s
53:53
no place right now. Let' s just say something comes up under international
53:58
pressure. I' m not optimistic at all. That' s why I
54:00
don' t know the only one, obviously, but I don' t
54:01
see any optimism on this side. No. No, no? No,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no. No, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:02
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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I don' t see it either, that is, the streets are
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full of opponents, how much you can have it, But and general the
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opposition street until when, because if they have you in songs, that these
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four or goes to Costa Rica or the United States, the positor books or
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if they start to shoot the parapolize them the ones of the motorcycles, that
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is, I say how many you can be in the demanding Mans street.
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The issue of shooting, to say the least, also has a limit.
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I mean, I' d tell you in other times we' re talking.
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Sixty- seventies also had reactions in this case from the United States.
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I don' t remember the experience with Noriega in Patamás and the American invasion
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of Panama. I think you don' t have space anymore, because don
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' t give yourself the strength, let' s say what it meant We
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' re still back in America. Michael bad is still business for Venezuela.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so here' s a whole thing
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about legitimacy, not total legality. So the thing is, it goes on.
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I don' t know. Let' s wait another seventy- two
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hours to see how you say if the opponents get hot, because the moment
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they ask for asylum, the opponents end the civil struggle. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, that' s why, without heads let
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' s say people alone in fear, or unfortunately, that' s the
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way it is. Just like that, well, my friend, we'
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ll continue as if we' re looking forward to things a lot thanks to
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seeing as always huge hug. Gustavo Ferrari and Coupos are ours for responsibility in
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North America, with their particular gaze. Let' s hear what Alexander Rome
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has left in these three four minutes I say goodbye. Tomorrow we have a
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long talk scheduled with one of the best and most profound political scientists in Argentina,
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that cólogo Eduardo Estudianza, the director of the culture of the Rockman Pollarquia.
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Until five o' clock the few rich left and see you tomorrow,
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Bay Bay, Thank you Juan, Thank you Silvia. The cereals and already
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thorny and of the thick harvest. The machinery already agricultural as a whole dropped
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by 17 percent in the first semester With respect to the previous year and all
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the indicators that accompany consumption omercio, some additional services key construction. In all
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cases, the month closes with negative values and the main commentators of the national
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economic activity enrolled in study centers, in specialized consultants without exception predict a great
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difficulty in which in the second semester this trend is reversed because to the day
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there is a lack of a major change in the low wage self and a
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consequent increase in the occupation. Both items do not appear to be windy at
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six months from the first of July. As Anteez says, there are already
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loose and unwelcome data and it must be borne in mind that the problem of
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unemployment is beginning to become a central factor in public opinion, as an element
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that tarnishes government management. There is evidence of a quality of more than two
57:50
points in the first semester and an accentuation of that quality and the recessive effects
57:57
of the imprista of national state departments are produced that pre- announced the new
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Minister, the Strurschinegger, the author, the co- author for those who
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have no memory or do not know the subject of the corsolito because Sculshenegger was
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Secretary of Economic Policy, practically the Vice Minister of Economy. When the end
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horse of two thousand one, it closed all the bank accounts of the country
58:27
and the depositors were unable to extract their resources. That happened in Argentina,
58:30
although many young people do not know. The Schrurzenegger was the second and he
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did not resign, but put his key to the official decision of then not
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really pre- announce good news in fact, and that he returned to the
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public service. If there is no reactivation, if there is no more employment
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instead of less, but it is more salary, it consumes instead of less
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and especially, if there is no demand, the situation will also be complicated
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on that side more because the collective patience will end and end. It'
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s not an agonizing prognosis. I am simply repeating concrete data on economic developments,
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especially well- founded opinions and specialists, such as Orlando Ferreres or Martín
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Redado, who affirm exactly what I end up with, that is,