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3 Guys Before The Game - Next Up? (Episode 627) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: It is time for three guys before the game, we
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  Speaker 1: welcome you in. This is episode number six hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven. The title is next up as the search
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  Speaker 1: continues for West Virginia's next head basketball coach. When will
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  Speaker 1: the search in? Who will it be? We'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: Also coming up on the program. WVU women will shoot
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  Speaker 1: tonight Monday evening for the opportunity to go to the
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  Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen of the NCAA Tournament. It won't be easy
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia against the Tar Hills of North Carolina on
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  Speaker 1: their home floor.
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  Speaker 2: Is that going to be about a two and a
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  Speaker 2: half hour segment? Because I had some time, I went
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  Speaker 2: a little deeper probably than I needed to on the numbers.
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  Speaker 3: North Carolina thing, with what happened with the NCAA, now
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  Speaker 3: you got to go there, play on their court, play
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  Speaker 3: North Carolina. It's like an infection, you get it. It
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  Speaker 3: takes about ten days, it might be two weeks to
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  Speaker 3: two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that didn't. Of all the places to play,
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  Speaker 1: this probably would not be the ideal location right now.
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  Speaker 2: A stunning and amazing coincidence that that happens.
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  Speaker 3: Stunning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, we'll get into that. So we're recording early
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  Speaker 1: on Monday afternoon. And as you all know, when coaching
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  Speaker 1: searches takes place take place, they can change hour by hour,
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  Speaker 1: maybe ten minute by ten minute blocks, so anything we
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  Speaker 1: say could be dated really super quick. Really don't have
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  Speaker 1: any inside feel as to how long this will go on.
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  Speaker 1: It's Monday, mean, it'd be a surprised if you didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: By Thursday Friday, the process of elimination has begun to
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  Speaker 1: take place. Ben McCollum out of the mix, staying in
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  Speaker 1: his home state, his hometown for that matter, in Iowa City.
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  Speaker 1: He becomes the next coach at Iowa. Nico Medved's name
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  Speaker 1: had also been mentioned both last year and this year,
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  Speaker 1: but it seemed as though his deal with Minnesota was
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  Speaker 1: done a while back.
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  Speaker 2: He's in a lum And state native right.
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  Speaker 1: Born there was on staff there. So he goes to Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: And so that takes two out of a potential list
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  Speaker 1: for West Virginia. And so, now, like I said, next up,
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  Speaker 1: who is it going to be? Kertieval Obviously you have
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  Speaker 1: some observations.
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  Speaker 3: I have some obvious observations. One is that McCollum, that's
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  Speaker 3: not a big surprise, right Bran Iowa guy, and Iowa
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  Speaker 3: was under tremendous pressure, were they.
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  Speaker 2: Not tremendous pressure?
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  Speaker 3: Tremendous pressure, so that that's understandable. And look, ever, and
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  Speaker 3: Rin Baker knows that, so and we I believe speaking,
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  Speaker 3: we had a lot of faith in Ren Baker and
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  Speaker 3: how he does these searches. And if you're Renn Baker,
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  Speaker 3: you don't have It's not like you have one candidate
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  Speaker 3: and that's the only candidate you're looking at. You're looking
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  Speaker 3: at a pool and you may have favorites in that pool,
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  Speaker 3: but you're still you still have a pool. And certainly
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  Speaker 3: McCollum was in that pool. But you don't put all
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  Speaker 3: your eggs. Let me mix metaphors. You don't mix. Don't
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  Speaker 3: put all your eggs in that basket, knowing what you know.
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  Speaker 3: Number one. Number two is that, like you said, Tony,
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  Speaker 3: I think this is now a matter of a couple
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  Speaker 3: of days because Ren tends to move pretty quickly. These
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  Speaker 3: things happen relatively quickly. And guess what, the portal opened today,
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  Speaker 3: So you got to deal with that. Jered Calhoun, you
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  Speaker 3: would figure he's in the mix along with a couple others,
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  Speaker 3: know Chester Fraser.
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  Speaker 1: Should he should he.
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  Speaker 3: Get a look? I mean he's a guy that is
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  Speaker 3: looking for a head coaching job and a successful assistant
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  Speaker 3: here under Davrees, and you wonder whether he would go
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  Speaker 3: with Devrees. But where's ches, where's Chester Fraser from he's
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  Speaker 3: an Illinois guy.
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  Speaker 1: So was it Illinois Baltimore guy? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, does he want to go to Indiana? So you
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  Speaker 3: know that's you're wondering about that that's out there. I
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  Speaker 3: think that whoever's left at the Basketball office though, needs
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  Speaker 3: to somebody needs to call Isaac McNeely today. Somebody I
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  Speaker 3: don't know who's over there, who's left, Somebody needs to
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  Speaker 3: call the governor wanted to have a news conference about
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  Speaker 3: the NC double. A forget the NC double A call
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  Speaker 3: Isaac mcneelly or send the plane over.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, he jumped right into personnel. We forget about.
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  Speaker 2: Coach on the personnel side of things.
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  Speaker 1: Probably need a coach before you can go get played.
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  Speaker 3: Well okay, but well the programs there. Somebody still got
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  Speaker 3: to be left with the program.
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  Speaker 2: Kerchieval wants Toby, who's over there getting some shots up,
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  Speaker 2: getting ready for his pro career, to call down there
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  Speaker 2: and get some personnel lined up.
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  Speaker 3: But look, the search is I would think that they
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  Speaker 3: still have three, four or five people in the pool. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: and they're doing interviews, they've done the vetting, they're doing
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  Speaker 3: the in person interviews and mccolgum, we know is out,
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  Speaker 3: Medved's out, so something has to come together fairly quickly.
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  Speaker 2: In this process, you also have to you do have
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  Speaker 2: to do your research. You have to talk to folks.
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  Speaker 2: There's not an obvious slam dunk candidate here, so you
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  Speaker 2: want to make sure you get as much information as
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  Speaker 2: you can, and you do that, and maybe some teams
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  Speaker 2: are still playing.
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  Speaker 3: That's the other part exactly.
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  Speaker 2: There's teams that are still having games that you have
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  Speaker 2: to wade through as well. I've said this before and
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  Speaker 2: I'll say it again. I think, especially on the basketball side,
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  Speaker 2: given there's so many more teams that compete at the
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  Speaker 2: Division one level, there's so many more teams that cross
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  Speaker 2: over in terms of playing higher level opponents, I think
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  Speaker 2: your information gathering in some ways becomes easier on the
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  Speaker 2: basketball side than the football side. And oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: just the machine of football is so big, so your
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  Speaker 2: projections of coming from a smaller school to a larger
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  Speaker 2: school can sometimes be a tougher calculation than it is
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  Speaker 2: in So I think again, I think Ren said this, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's a line from John Wood, and be quick, but
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  Speaker 2: don't hurry. Yes, the portal's open. The portal being open
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  Speaker 2: also doesn't need you to absolutely panic and push the
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  Speaker 2: wrong button for the hire. So get it right. Talk
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  Speaker 2: to your folks, who are you most comfortable with, who
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  Speaker 2: do you have the most confidence in, and you make
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  Speaker 2: your offer. But I agree, I would be surprised if
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  Speaker 2: it's not here in a few days.
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  Speaker 1: Just looked up at the big calendar on the wall,
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  Speaker 1: and today was the day that Darren Devreeese was hired
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  Speaker 1: one year ago today at West Virginia. Think about all
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  Speaker 1: that that has transpired.
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  Speaker 3: One thing, you well bred. I think you disagree on this,
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  Speaker 3: but you would like to have as much assurance as
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  Speaker 3: is reasonable. That is not going to be a one
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  Speaker 3: and done and you have to go through it again.
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  Speaker 2: You can't get that insurance. How possibly would you get
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  Speaker 2: that insurance? Here's what I say to that. You do
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  Speaker 2: what you did last time. You thought you had insurances assurances,
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  Speaker 2: you didn't. You had a big buyout, So you take
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  Speaker 2: the money again. I think Ren had a really astuid
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  Speaker 2: comment about that. It wasn't Wren's choice, it was Darren's choice.
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  Speaker 2: Darren chose to leave.
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  Speaker 1: What are you going to do?
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  Speaker 2: It's that person's deal. So you do the same thing again.
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  Speaker 2: You make a good hire. You put a good buy
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  Speaker 2: out in. You hope the person stays so you can
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  Speaker 2: get some traction and momentum started. And if they happen
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  Speaker 2: not to, then you go do this again and you
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  Speaker 2: hire another good coach. I mean, I look no further
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  Speaker 2: than Drake. Yeah, my old high school coach's son, Brian Harden.
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  Speaker 2: What's Brian Harden thinking? Nico was there for one year,
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  Speaker 2: Darren Devrees comes in now, he stayed six which was
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  Speaker 2: an unusually long time at Drake Plucked with Ben McCullum
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  Speaker 2: there for one year. Another great hire. Ben McCollum boom
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  Speaker 2: plucked for one year. Now he's going out to make
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  Speaker 2: another hire. That's what you do. It's not the school's decision.
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  Speaker 2: It's that individual's decision. So you put the safeguards in
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  Speaker 2: to protect the institution as much as you can. You
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  Speaker 2: make a good hire, and if you've got to do
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  Speaker 2: it again, you go do it again. Is it a bummer? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: Does it set your program back? Absolutely, But it's not
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  Speaker 2: your decision to make. When somebody leaves, go make a
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  Speaker 2: good hire. Have confidence at Wren.
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  Speaker 1: Will Yeah, you know West Virginia right now is just
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  Speaker 1: getting bit in the butt and the way things even out.
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia had that incredibly long run with just three
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  Speaker 1: basketball coaches in a span of over forty years. You
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  Speaker 1: go from nineteen seventy eight when Gail Katler was hired
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  Speaker 1: and twenty plus, then Gales twenty two or twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: and then Hugs seventeen, sixteen seventeen, and then throw the
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  Speaker 1: John Blin middle in there as well. You go over
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  Speaker 1: forty years where you had three coaches to a good point,
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  Speaker 1: that's unusual, which is incredibly unusual. We bring this stet
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  Speaker 1: up a bunch that wv was the only school in
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  Speaker 1: the country that had the same football and basketball head
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  Speaker 1: coaches in the nineteen eighties and in the nineteen nineties.
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  Speaker 1: No other school did that. So doesn't make it any
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  Speaker 1: easier to what you're going through right now. But you
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  Speaker 1: had it chunk, and now you just hope you can
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  Speaker 1: get back onto that side and get something here that's
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  Speaker 1: going to go long term, which I think in today's world,
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  Speaker 1: long term is probably five years, right, If five years,
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  Speaker 1: It's part of their fortieth year celebration.
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  Speaker 3: Put that on my deck.
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  Speaker 1: You could do that.
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  Speaker 3: Put for a save up to get the boat. But
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  Speaker 3: let's start with the motor.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes when they check out boat motors they put them
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  Speaker 1: in garbage cants. Put the water return. Oh yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: all your ad around deck chairs all wet. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: could do that. Let's do this so I checked the numbers.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we'll just go right to the numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Spreads on Stats WV women trying to get to
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  Speaker 1: the detailed breakdown on DOUBLEV against North Carolina for the
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  Speaker 1: right to go to the Sweet sixteen. The WV women
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  Speaker 1: looked incredibly impressive against Columbia on Saturday, just played their game.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any of Brad's high analytics, but I
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  Speaker 1: did find it interesting that despite being on Carolina's home
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  Speaker 1: Florida night, West Virginia is a slight favorite point and
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  Speaker 1: a half favorite.
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  Speaker 3: I'm my, my, West Virginia is boiling up. I'm already
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  Speaker 3: worried about the whistle, just just as a West Virginian.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're you're checking all the boxes today he got
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  Speaker 2: he diving into personnel and nil payments. Now he's mad
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  Speaker 2: at officials. The game hadn't even started. You just come
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  Speaker 2: right on over. His best thing is come on over
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  Speaker 2: his best his best thing is to get a player
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  Speaker 2: to sign without a head coach.
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  Speaker 1: That was good. That was a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's also that's also probably pretty indicative of the
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  Speaker 2: times has happened.
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  Speaker 1: He's the craziest stuff is right now, it could happen.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows.
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  Speaker 3: No, Well I didn't say so. I just said, start
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  Speaker 3: making the inquiries. He's available, he's into portal as of this.
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  Speaker 2: Morning, I would think. I mean, that's that's great of you.
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  Speaker 2: The assistance in the in the portal tow excellent hobby.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they're aware whoever they.
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  Speaker 3: Is, who they is.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fairly sure they are aware of that particular entry.
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  Speaker 2: But what I just, as we told you many times, hoppy.
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  Speaker 2: Just because the official announcement comes that the portal is open,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that's the first notice at the portal. Wait
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  Speaker 2: a minute, are you saying I don't mean that specific
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  Speaker 2: to mcneilie, just in general? There's are you saying.
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  Speaker 3: That the young men, maybe some young men may be
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  Speaker 3: U contacted prior to the official.
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  Speaker 2: Portal Things are happening three sixty five.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what fearfully, yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Into portal too.
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  Speaker 1: You so only.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Hoppy, Thanky at this Hopy, at.
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  Speaker 1: This point, thank you, at this point, there's nothing you
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  Speaker 1: could say that will surprise me anymore. Like I'm at
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  Speaker 1: that point now, I'm going like, oh really, okay, fine,
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  Speaker 1: got it.
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  Speaker 3: I just thought you guys would like, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like following the portal. You know, we do. That's
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  Speaker 3: why I said I appreciate that, but you guys are like,
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  Speaker 3: catch up, Hoppy, I started.
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  Speaker 2: In July last year, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been out there for a months. Literally, what
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  Speaker 1: just who's going? Who's not going?
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  Speaker 3: All of it?
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  Speaker 1: All of it? All right? Right, all right, No, we're
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  Speaker 1: not saying we're not saying stop you. It's very good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad we're saying.
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  Speaker 1: That's out there. You hear numbers, You hear what the
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  Speaker 1: number is going to be to keep a player, You
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  Speaker 1: hear what the number is going to be to get
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  Speaker 1: a player. I mean, it's it's just non stop.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you don't have topologize. I'm just letting you
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  Speaker 1: know that's just the world that we're in.
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  Speaker 2: So you're saying we should contact Isaac McNeil, I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: you're probably going to have a lot of open roster spots.
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  Speaker 2: So some young men that would like to play here
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  Speaker 2: at the flagship university of the state, that are proven
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  Speaker 2: winners and can play, would absolutely love to have all
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  Speaker 2: those young men join the program.
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  Speaker 3: Hop there you go. Okay, fifteen spots to fill. I
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  Speaker 3: think I did his game at the state tournament.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe all Collat you did, you did, Thank you gold,
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  Speaker 2: I remember what games you did.
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  Speaker 1: The well of the all time great l on his
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: jumption Jerry West. I mean that Jerry West elevation where
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  Speaker 1: he just absolutely used springs.
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  Speaker 2: I first saw that hop to At at a state tournament.
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  Speaker 2: Jumped out to me, I said, the person I'll stand
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  Speaker 2: next to me, we did it. I said, that's the
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  Speaker 2: single highest jump shot I've ever seen. Term all Throow.
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  Speaker 2: And remember I've spent time with ray Allen. Ray Allen
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  Speaker 2: was an elite jumper. Isaac mcneely's about it could be
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  Speaker 2: a state champion high jumper if you just put the
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  Speaker 2: bar under where he is on the jump shot. And
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  Speaker 2: he's a great career. Oh you didn't mean this to
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  Speaker 2: be an Isaac McNeely podcast here, But he's had a
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  Speaker 2: great Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: What you know what a shooting percentage is from three point?
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead?
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  Speaker 3: Do you know? If you know? Go go ahead? Forty
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  Speaker 3: forty percent from three go make a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: I'm where he had nice year, averaging fifteen points a game,
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  Speaker 3: make a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: He had a very nice year. I'm just discovering all
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  Speaker 2: he will command a nice number on the open market
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  Speaker 2: that he has just apparently entered into.
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  Speaker 3: As of their hobby.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be seven plus.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, Well, you got players. I mean, somebody's
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  Speaker 3: gonna make I mean probably probably in the NL world,
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  Speaker 3: you'll have a player. I mean, depending on how you
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  Speaker 3: do your budget that somebody's gonna make seven hundy, right, mm.
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  Speaker 2: Hmm, yeah, right, somebodies. Yeah, if you're gonna be good, somebody, somebodies.
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  Speaker 3: Are gonna make seven hundred if you want to be good. Yeah, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: it's all gone. You've had a lot, well most of
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  Speaker 3: its emotion. But Brad's got the stats.
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  Speaker 1: All right, We're ready. We'll hitch in the head here.
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  Speaker 2: About Carolina is a really interesting game, I think because
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: if you if you go down a bunch of stats,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: and I won't I won't bore you with all of
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: them really evenly matched from a statistics standpoint. Here and
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: there's I'll get into a couple of them here that
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about. But Carolina is very good. Seventeen and
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: five on its home court this season, incredibly balanced, six
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: players with two hundred and fifty plus points on the season.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: All six of those players have been used offensively on
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: three hundred plus possession So it's not just people balanced scoring,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: it's balanced usage. While five on three hundred plus one
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: at two ninety eight, which will tick over early in
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: today's game, someone ahead and just pushed ahead there tony things.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: That's for sure.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Kind of like the old neighborhood play in baseball that's
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: now outlawed hoppy, you know.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: What that is?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: No old neighborhood play. What's in the second basement or
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: shortstop and you're turning a double play and they flip you.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: You could be in the neighborhood that you have to try.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: So I got in the neighborhood.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: There is what I said.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: It works, Thank you, thank you. Five of those players
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: have made one hundred plus field goals On the year,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: The sixth has eighty one field goals made, with more
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: than half of those being three. They have four players
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: better than thirty four percent from three. Now, they don't
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: just sit and bomb three, So this is you're going
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: to have to defend inside and outside. They have a
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: very nice mix of players Stylistically, a couple things to watch.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Excellent spot up shooters, top fifteen nationally in points per
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: problem possession. Excellent in the pick and roll. It will
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: mostly be the ball handler doing the scoring out of
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: the pick and roll. They're top ten percent nationally in that. Defensively,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: only six opponents have shot better than forty three percent
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: from the field on them. Conversely, or in addition, only
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: one has shot better than fifty percent from the floor.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: That's surprised me a little bit.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Thirty second time out, you said only six teams have
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: shot over forty against them the entire.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Year over more than forty three percent.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, forty three percent, Yeah, okay.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: And so a number to watch there. In five of
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: West Virginia's seven losses, it had a field goal percentage
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: below forty three percent. So what happens in that particular
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: number if you want to watch that from three point range.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Carolina shoots twenty two per game on average and makes
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: thirty four percent. West Virginia shoots twenty two per game
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and makes thirty three percent. Really easy. Three of West
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Virginia's last four opponents have shot better than forty percent
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: from three. But you know what, West Ring's three and
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: zero in those games. Kind of a weird stat. West
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Virginia five and one in game in which the opponent
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: shoots better than forty percent from three, So they must
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: it's an aberration because the points off turnover is the
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: thing with West Virginia. Yeah, that balances out a lot
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: of stats that would normally hold.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I'd like to know what the opponent's shooting in two
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: point shots on those days where they're shooting over forty
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: from three.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I could give it to you, but I can't remember now. Carolina,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: when it shoots it well from three is good nine
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: to one when it's forty percent or better from three,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: which that holds for a lot of teams if you're
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: in that percentage. Here's West Virginia's advantages tonight. Here's what
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: you're watching. WVU gets a steal on twenty percent of
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: its opponent's possessions. That's in the one hundredth percentile.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Pretty good.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: You can't do any better, is that good?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Carolina gets a turnover or a steal specifically a steal
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: on twelve percent of its possessions in the sixty two percentile,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: so you should have your advantage there. Which if there's
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a place for West Virginia to have an advantage, you
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: want it in that one here. This is wild, though.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: There were three opponents that had ten plus steals again
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: sainst the tar Heels three. Okay, okay, Duke did it twice,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: had twelve in their most recent game against North Carolina,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: which was a Duke win. Had sixteen steals against Carolina
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: earlier this year, but Carolina won. I'm out as duke.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: It had sixteen steals in a game and lost the game.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: West Virginia had twenty six games in which it had
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: ten plus steals this season. It averaged thirteen and a half,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: so that would make sense, or almost fourteen per game.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Only twice in the last six games, though, has West
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Virginia had ten plus steals. So that's always something to
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: watch with this team. When it creates steals, that generally
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: leads to those points off turnovers, where West Virginia has
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: been plus ten points per game on the season. So
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: that's something to watch. Hoppy to your nerves about the officials. Yes,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Carolina doesn't get to the free throw line much.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's always a Farepare yourself and say, I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: can't believe this, outliar.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: They had a free throw a TEP rate of ninety
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: eight percent.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Prepare yourself, twenty seven attempts to West Virginia's.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Seven seventeenth percentile nationally for Carolina and free throw attempt
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: rate they do not get to the line just twenty
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: four percent. On that number, West Virginia much higher than that,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: almost six percent higher in the seventy second percent nationally.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: So to your point, and I know you were only
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: partly joking there, but truly watch the whistle. And I
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: don't mean that just because it's at Carolina, but in
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: NCA tournament games you always have questions about the whistle.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And from a West Virginia perspective, it's doubled because you
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: do get to the free throw on and get your points,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: and you do create a lot of steals. And when
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: you create steals, there's going to be swiping and banging
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and physicality and reaching and poking. Like officials down in
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Chapel Hill, just go ahead and swallow the whistle. You're
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: allowed to poke, you're allowed to rake, You're allowed to
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: get in there. Don't be bowling the calls the whistles
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: every two seconds.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: There was two things. I still have PTSD from the
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Iowa game last year, right know what happened there? And
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: then I watched a lot of high school basketball now
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: the last two weeks of the tournament, and I thought
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: the officials and that's tough. The officials do a really
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: for the most part, it did a really good job
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: of letting them play and not just calling all ticki
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: tac stuff. You know it's going to be physical and
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: only when you add a significant advantage disadvantage. So I
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: hope they let them play.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Last two things, so that's what you're watching. Steal's points
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: off turnovers, which is no surprise with West Virginia. And
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: then what's happening at the line, who's getting there? If
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you see Carolina getting there, that's a problem because they
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: just don't normally do it. A couple players to watch
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: number twenty six to one guard Lexi do Narski guard. Yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: six one guard. They've got size too. She's a shooter.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Forty one percent from three, deadly from the top of
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the key three, forty seven percent, oh near fifty percent
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: from top of the key three. So pay attention to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: watch her inside. They've got a post six y three.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I'll probably script the name Maria gakdang. How about this.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: It's a good number. Tell you ready. When I say
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: she scores exclusively inside, I mean it literally. She takes
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: ninety eight point three percent of her shots in the lane,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: ninety eight point three, broadening her offensive game. Has taken
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: five jump shots in the last ten games, has not
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: made one, has not made one. Gets to the line
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: a lot, nearly fifty percent free throw ringoad.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: That name was kind of difficult to look at last night.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I was looking at them, so I went to their pronouncer.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: You did get it, right, I was that close.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: It's really weird. It's almost like you're going to swear
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: it's got dang, it's got dang. Yeah, Okay, yeah, that's
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: what it is. Oh is it got dang? Good?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Keep her off the block, so you're gonna put lane,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So you got you around on the post. You're gonna
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: get some shots. And again, they're very balanced. When you
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: look at their heat chart from a shooting perspective, there's
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of red around three. There's a lot of
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: red and mid range that get it inside the lane.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: This is this is a challenge.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: So how do you read?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: What does coach call?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: You?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Do? Mean? You got to pick your poisoner, right, You
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: can't defend everything.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: What do you do? Well?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: You you're going first of all, you're gonna apply pressure
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna hope to to speed them up and
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: get them out of the game. You're going to give
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: up some you're gonna give up some twos, and they're
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: probably gonna get some open threes. You just try and
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: limit that, right and when you settle into your half
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: court and they go into the post. That's why you've
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: increased your size this season. That's a direct result of
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: playing in the Big twelve. So it's not like you
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: haven't seen really talented postcomers.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: You've seem big.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: You challenge fives, you challenge on the catch, and then
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you rake down. But you got to be careful on
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: who the shooters are. You rake down on some of
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: the shooters that aren't good from outside, and you just
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: and you go play, go play, So there you go.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I have a lot more, but I'll leave it. I
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: think it'd be a really good game. This is about
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: this balance is two good teams.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: That's what I think too. I think this really balanced.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, the line is the line is the line.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: It's a one point game, so flip a coin, right,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: So it's just like who is going to have the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: night where they're more efficient? Like, you cannot have an
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: off night guarding. You cannot have an off night missing
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: open looks, uncovered shots, You got to make shots. Who's
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: gonna do it?
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be strength comes through. This is a team
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: in Carolina that doesn't turn it over very much. They're
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: like in the ninety ninth percentile in turnover. So which
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: of the good on good comes through West Virgingi's ability
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to force a ton or Carolina's ability to not do it?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Which of those comes through? That's the first thing to
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: watch them. Then you can start going down the list of.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Keys advanced wise, I wonder how many teams they've played
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: that have heated him up to the level of WU.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Well, very few, because the just very few do right,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: very few are able to do that. But this is
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: a smart, balanced team playing at home. So this is
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: why you don't need weirdness. You don't need them being
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: extremely hot from three. You don't need a bad whistle.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Just play the thing straight.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Up, lay in the groundwork for the whistle.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what I'm doing.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Coming in Thursday, little post traumatic IOWA syndrome.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Spreads on stats presented by commonly CPA will be about
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: North Carolina's free throw attempt rate. Just mark it down.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Well, they look good on Saturday WV. You did good.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: They were having overwhelmed them. JJ Quinnerley was having fun.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: They were all they all were having fun.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Lined up.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what a job he's done. Kell. Yeah, helps have
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: good players too, but I mean he's done a great job.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: They're just constructed so well too. I mean, yes, there's
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: an element of and luck's probably not the right word
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: because you had to work to keep JJ around, but
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: you keep JJ really remarkable. She stays through three coaching changes,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: an All American Defensive Player of the Year player stays
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: for three, and then you've matched around her extremely well
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: with different pieces. Jordan Harrison has come in and talking
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: about a great compliment. You can take Quinnerly off the
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: ball and you have an elite point guard in Jordan,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and then you have and we do this all the time,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and we say it every time. I probably can stop
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: giving the disclaimer. Kyle Watson doesn't get enough attention for
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: what she does. You talk about ultimate glue and the
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: ability to do different things. And here's guys. We say
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: this all the time, and I think it's important to
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: remember as we get a men's basketball coach named and
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: you're in the portal finding players match in style of
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: play and system is so critical. She's a great match.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Like if you watch her, she's somebody I would pay
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: admission to to just watch a run, Like if she
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: was on the track team, I okay, let's watch Like
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: there's certain people that bounce in goal when they run.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: David Saunders was won in football. I always remember, like
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I used to like to watch him after practice on
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: the sideline gas or sprints. They just glide and she
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: glides and she can move latterly, she's a great fit
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: for this system. So Mark's done a great job of
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: taking what he had and then building around it with
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: a great fit and a great matching of personality and
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: player absolutely.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Mountaineer baseball team had an incredibly memorable weekend series with Arizona.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Back on Friday night, doubv falls behind and then rallies
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: and the game becomes the longest home game in WVU history,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: sixteen innings, It went five plus hours. It wasn't done
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: until after midnight. West Virginia with great opportunities, I think eleven,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: thirteenth and fifteenth inning all had runners on base and
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: couldn't bring someone home, and they lose that game six
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to four. And then Saturday afternoon again Arizona took the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: early lead and then West Virginia lit it up and
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: put eleven on the board and won that game. So
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: you're tied to the game of piece. You go into
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: yesterday's game and West Virginia just had one of those
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: days that happens in baseball. Skyler King was like really
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: really close to a Grand Slam home run early in
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the game. He whacked the ball a couple of times,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and it was just one of those days where you
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: just couldn't get the bounce, the role that you needed,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the extra foot or two feet that you needed. West
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Virginia they were up yeah in the game, four to
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: three I think seven seven.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I think so six or seven.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it looked like, okay, just hang in there,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: hang in there, duck through a couple more of these things,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you're going to get the series. But it didn't happen.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: They exploded and they put eleven up. I think it
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: was eleven five, and so all of that shakes in
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: and out and so and you end up playing two
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of the preseason favorites, Oak State one game, Arizona three games.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: You're two and two against two of the top teams
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: in the conference. And now this week you've got Marshall
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday here and then next weekend coming up, you
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: go to BYU and obviously you don't know what you're
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: going to get their fingers crossed weatherwise because two weeks
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: ago with snow. So then you go to BYU and
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: just a really good team. The one thing you take
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: away from this weekend these guys have tremendous fight. They
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: do not quit. They battle every single at bats, so
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: really fun. So we'll see what happened.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this will be a good season. It'll
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: continue to be a good season already has been obviously,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a fun team
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: to watch.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a question. Do you have something over there? Happy? Yeah,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I've been checking daily the Cardinals Major League Baseball Cardinals
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: box score, and I haven't seen weather Holt in the
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: lineup or getting at bats, although I did a few
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: weeks ago. So is he, you know, already pushed to
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: the miners, do you know? Or is he's going on
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: over there? Anybody know?
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I haven't looked, but he was just drafted.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I just but he was playing.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, don't don't say already pushed to the miners.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll phrase it for me that he was.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Well, it takes a while to get to the bigs,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so I would be surprised if he
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: doesn't start the year in the miners and then has
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: to produce and come through.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: All right, I'm just just asking. I just saw he
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: was getting at bats early.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something that's normal when they go to they
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: just want to give those guys a taste to see
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: what they do. But yeah, it would be it would
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: be very unusual for him to make that leap that quick.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: But he produced in the short season last year. He
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: goes in and produces again this year. It won't be
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: long before he's up high draft pick, just like Manila was.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Right when you got Manila up quickly and didn't didn't
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: have a lot of innings in the minors, so that'd
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: be no hope.
• 30:47
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 2: Before that? There did you say donuts? Were those in there?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Donets, donets done, a little donut. Thanks, they are
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: little chocolate ones. You buy that and again you get
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: a honey bun too. For four to fifty I one
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: get one on pop tarts two for five dollars, Gatorades
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: twenty ouncers. I mean, what in the heck do you
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: want more in life?
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I like those little donuts.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I figured you what, because it doesn't It doesn't feel
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: as guilty going down when you're pounding those donuts.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: You saw me rooting through the snack band and the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: basketball trips, pulling those bad boys out.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: You did.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Now there Gomart on sale, so that you just said, yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Just get the app and you're in business. Plus twenty
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: cents off again and I go, do is play a
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: video game all your.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna use a car to get my gas.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Here a little bit kercheval, I might.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: For all you folks out there who have been yelled at.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Donuts, yelled at donuts donuts, I'm sorry. I was working.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I was doing something for.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: All that have been yelled at, you'll never make you
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: your living playing video games, right, how many kids have
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: heard that? Well, now you can play one and you
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: get twenty cents off again, and you can run back
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and say, hey, I did save money by doing that. Yeah.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: You know, what are the aggravating things about about this job,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: this part time job, about all these things, is you
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: spend in coaching searches in particular, spend eighty percent of
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: your time, eighty percent of your energy refuting or trying
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: to track down stuff that isn't right that's out there
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: on social media. You know, it's just so you just
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: you waste everybody's time. Like there's a fake account out
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: there that Calhoun is the next head coach and it's
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: got all the WVU stuff by it. It looks official, It
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: looks official, but I just double checked it's a fake.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: But no, why did you just check with famil Man.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: You cut me real deep right there, just telling you.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: We'll know sin all right next, Well, no, Sin.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Just telling you. Before the show started today, happy Hoppy
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: was walking out the door and our producer Jake was
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: coming in and crashed in the door, slammed in the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Hoppy's hand and he went back, he didn't fall.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't surprise that doesn't happen more though.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a pretty big thing.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Probably should put some sort of on air mini window
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: or air the order we have an on air light. Well,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: you weren't on on air when you got hit, so
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: why wouldn't it solve that particular.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Copyin the old days, the old days used to have
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: those windows in broadcast. Oh yeah, like a little hole
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you look in there are they coming in? Anyway? My
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: point all that is this that you know, Hoppy was
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: just doing this thing, right, you just walking out the
• 34:22
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• 34:25
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• 34:28
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• 34:30
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  Speaker 2: What well, I think that was a business meeting that
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  Speaker 2: was not intended for podcast content. Again, you did it.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: That's a long way from being done. It was in
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the infancy stage of ideas and you just put it
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: out there four seconds later. It's not done.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'd say we got about ninety nine percent
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: chance and most of these things happening. So as a
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: result of that, I think that we're on our way.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: To Hoppy steps out for thirty seconds, Tony blows another idea,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: product idea. That's all right, hop he's back.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Let's go. What's what you got, Scooter? What do you
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: what do you run off the studio.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: For Again, part of what you do is you chase
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: down things that are that are inaccurate. I mean, the
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: thing that got out there was out there by somebody
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: and made it look like, oh, Calcoun's the next coach.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: That is not accurate? That is I mean, he could be.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: He could be, but he hasn't been hired as the
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: next coach.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: He could be.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: He's one of those that you would think is in
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: that list. And then there was another there was another
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: post social post that said that Rin Baker is in Orlando.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: He's not in Orlando. So again, I'm exhausted. I'm not
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: doing this anymore.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that coaching search stories are the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: hardest to follow.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I think I've said that, maybe you said that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I mean's just they are. Yeah, you could definitely chase
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: your You could definitely chase your tail.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Pete sample he doesn't gets it right, Pete.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Pete probably chased a few Pee could probably tell some
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: stories of being taken one road down the other.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: I would imagine what Pete has that I don't have.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: A lot of people don't have as access to Asians.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and athletic directors and presidents and conference commissions and coaches.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: All right, go ahead, move.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: On Andrew Andrew from mate wand nothing, move on Andrew
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: from mate wand In your guy's opinion, what makes a
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: great basketball coach in today's era? Is it the ability
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: to recognize and recruit skill in different areas to have
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: a well rounded team year to year, Or is it
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the ability to draw plays, get players to run the
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: player plays that you like. Before the portal days, I'd
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: say ability to develop players. But the portal has changed that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, yes, and yes, all of it.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: But we've also over the years, we've seen teams that
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: have great We always say you need play. You obviously
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: need players, but we've seen teams spread with great players
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: that don't get it done. So I think Devrees had
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: a great template that you don't have un You've got
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: good resources, not unlimited resources, but you had great excess
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: no's and great effort.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: It's all of those things. And I say that from
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: this reason, you have got to have elite talent. If
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: you don't, it becomes really hard to get deep. So
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: you've got to have elite. And that doesn't mean all
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: eight guys that play have to be elite, but you've
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: got to have a couple. And we've said, Tony, how
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: many years have we been saying that, Now the formula
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: you've got to have, you've got to have at least
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: three guys that are going to make money playing, make
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: high end dollars NBA guys. If you want to win
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: a national championship, pros at other areas, if you want
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: to go deep, you've got to have that. But you
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: also have to have somebody where these teams are too
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: good and coaches are too good. In this league, you
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: can't roll balls out. You can't just roll balls out
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: and say go get them. So you've got to have
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: somebody that can manage the X and o's and be
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: very good there. And I do think I understand the
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Texture's point about developing players, and I think development in
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: the old sense of the word is not what it
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: once was. But I do think you can take guys
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: even that have played a number of games in the
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: college level and develop throughout the year. And you've got
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: to make them better throughout the year. And I will
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: say Javon Small is in that category. Javon Small was
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: an elite basketball player when he arrived, and he grew
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: into a role that was even better, like he had
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: to do things that he hadn't always done. He developed
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: in to not just a really good basketball player to
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: one of the best in the country. So I think
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: development is important all the way around Hansbury.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: About Hansbury's development, that's.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: A great example. Yes, yes, so all of those guys,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: So I think all not to be flippant to the
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: answer there, but all of that matters. And the more
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: of each of them you have the more the better
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: your upside is or the better chance you have to
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: advance deep. Yeah, there's my opinion.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: But you have to start with something strong, to begin
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: with right. I mean, you can have the greatest skill
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: developer in the world, and if you just don't have
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the absolute basics to be successful, you're not going to
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: be able. I mean, four guy that runs four to
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: nine is never going to run four four. So you
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: have to have the ability to get it. Might not
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: be a finished product, but you've got to be close enough.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Gott to be close enough. One thing we've done, We've
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit in the last couple
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: of weeks, is that we are partnering with WVU Cancer
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Institute as they get ready for their day of caring.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I do you want to give this a little shout
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: out because I don't think I did a good enough
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: job explaining it. I didn't do a good enough job
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: explaining exactly what's going to happen. So let's do this
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: real quick. Doctor Hannah Hazard Jenkins as the executive chair
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and director of the WVU Cancer Institute, and she joins
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: us here on three guys. Hi, Hannah, how are you?
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Hi? I'm well, thank you, how are you?
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: We're doing well? Trying to find a basketball coach? Got
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: any suggestions, we.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Think, Yeah, you don't want me for that job?
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Okay? She stays in her lane.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Right, Okay, yeah, yeah, so hey cured on in the
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: stands without any problem. Beyond that, I'm pretty useless.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Actually most games have about ten thousand people who can coach.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Well, that's just part of the deal.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: So very true statement I did.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: We kind of talked about what's coming up. I wanted
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: to get you on walk us through. We're partnering with
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: you guys Connection three or four through the Cancer Institute.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Tell me what our folks need to know as we
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: get ready for this date.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: So the Day of Giving, which is coming up on
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: March twenty six, is about returning back to the university
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: philanthropic funds that help us meet the goals, the missions,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: and the purpose of the university, and in particular for
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: the Cancer Institute. We really identified a couple of funds
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: we would like targeted donations too, and one of those
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: is Connection three four. And this is a fund that
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: allows us to channel these resources to sort of the
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: most urgent priorities of the Cancer Institute as it builds
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: towards NCI designation, as it builds our network of Cancer
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Institute sites around the state and region, which allows us
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: to provide coordinated cancer care for the patients of our region.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: And so what can our folks do if they want
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: to get involved.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: So if you want to get involved on the day
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: of giving, you would find the w Cancer Institute page
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: and then on that page are three options for donations.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: So Connection three oh four and part of this fund
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: has in the past used money to help support local
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: hospitals partnering with farmers to provide sustainable, high quality food
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: to patients diagnosed with cancer. But that's just one of
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: the few things that we've done in the past and
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: would perpetuate moving forward. But we also have a program
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: called Suit for the Soul, so we feed in Morgantown
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: all of the patients that are in the infusion chairs
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: around the lunch hour, and so that supports that program.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: And then obviously our mobile lung cancer bus called our
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: unit called LUCAS. So those are the three funds. Depending
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: on you know, a person's interest in what they want
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: to support, they could pick. There's a lot of flexibility
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: with a Connection three h four, and we really are
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: looking at advancing programs that not only enhance the quality
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: of life for those that are being treated currently for cancer,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: but then also those that live long beyond that for
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: our survivors want to be able to provide resources and
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: enhance their quality of life as well.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: No, doctor, I think what you're doing is really important
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: because it's not just about oh, someone it comes to
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: the hospital, they get cancer treatment, and then they go
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: home and then they come back. I mean you're talking
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: about a more holistic approach to people who are dealing
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: with cancer.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: So I mean a cancer center is more than or
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: should be more than diagnosed to cancer treat of cancer.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: It's a it's an earth shattering event for a patient,
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: for sure. But as we know, our community, our Appalachian community,
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: our West Virginians are very centered on family and their
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: local community, and so when a cancer diagnosis happened, it
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: sort of rocks the world of the families, the friends,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: the community in which that person lives. And if we
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: ignore the ripple effect, so to speak, of a diagnosis,
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: then we really aren't doing a good job of enhancing
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: quality of life, and not just quantity, but quality of
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: life for those diagnosed and those around them.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, you're doing an unbelievable job over there, and
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: we just wanted to again highlight it, give it attention.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: So we're recording on twenty four so it's this coming Wednesday,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: the twenty sixth, And we ask folks if they feel
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: if they feel driven to do that, to make a
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: to make a contribution, and it does. It pays off
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: unbelievable dividends. So we wish you guys the very best.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Thanks Hannah for joining us. We do appreciate it.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, I very much appreciate everything you all are doing.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: You bet take care.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Rodri thank you.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: There's doctor Hannah hazard Jenkins, executive chair director of wvu's
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Cancer Institute. Again that is coming up on Wednesday.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: There. You know, Tony, I'm doing some work now with
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: WV Medicine and I've gotten to know a lot more
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: about their what they're doing there. It's really amazing. I mean,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: what has happened over the last ten twelve years there
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: and how they've expanded their level of care in so
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: many different areas and also not just again not just
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: at that hospital, but in building the network and reaching
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: out in the commun I think they're doing a fantastic
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: job of trying to improve the health, the healthcare, in
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: the overall health of West Virginians.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Text line. Yeah, Glenn, enough of the conspiracy theories, hawk
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Fan nine to twelve TikTok bands. It's time for the
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: annual transition of the podcast from WV sports to food
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Taking your advice, I've started sam Arizona tomatoes from seed.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I recall you advising about the soil over the years.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: What growing tips do you have to help? And yes,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: the plants look better now that they're standing upright there.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: They are early, they're on early, early on. I got
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I got nothing for you as far as
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: as far as positive suggestions. It looks like you're doing great. Yeah,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: looks like you're doing great. Sun and water. You've got
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: to keep the rabbits out of no, yeah, put them
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: in absolutely text until further notice. I will beginning of
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: my Morgantown road updates from Pete Thammeil, Kevin and Princeton
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: writes the last episode should have a disclaimer for danger.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I was all over the road on the way to work,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: laughing at the paving discussion to buy. I almost drove
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: off into a ditch when Brad finished with worst update
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: in the history of updates. Poor Hoppy. Shout out to
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: the person who sent that question in an all time
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: or rent love the show, Kevin and Princeton.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I was driving back from Charleston after doing the high
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: school games this weekend, as I'm sure you were, and
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: was anxiously awaiting your road update this week. You can
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: just say all of them. You don't have to try
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: and say eight fifty seven, just say all of them.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some bad, bad areas. Yeah, we should talk
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: about the tournament a little bit.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: We will high school tournament. Yeah.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got an nugget too. When you get when
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: you get a chance, but go ahead and I get later.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: You're with us for the whole show.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe you already got up and left ones.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I had to do something. Yeah, I've show.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Let me also do this, speaking of Kevin and Princeton,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: said an all time or rent, So let me let me.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I'll try once and that'll be it to put something
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: into contact. And that was from the last show and
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: when I went off on conspiracy theories. So I've taken uh,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I've taken taken some good blasts and and basically, uh,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: here's my thought. So what I said has now been
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: turned into that I'm calling all the fans dumbasses. Let
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: me try to put in context. One time. What I
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: probably didn't do a great job of saying. Here's what
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I was saying. The whole they shut down, Taylor and
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: the deal was done Tucker in the Bahamas that I said,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: absolutely not. Don't buy it for a second. So then
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I stepped aside and I just went into conspiracy theories
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: is in general, right, and I said, I listened to
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: people's conspiracy theories. So the context wasn't anything to do
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: with WV. I'm talking about the world is hollow, that
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Aliens built Stonehenge, that Elvis is still alive. I was
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: talking about those kinds of like crazy conspiracy theories, and
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I said, those people are dumbasses. So to try to say, well,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I'm calling West Virginia fans dumbasses, that's not the case
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: at all. It was a different topic of conspiracy theories
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: that I was talking about. So if you were taken
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: aback by that, that was not the context that I
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: was giving that in. And I stay with I stay
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: with the whole Bahamas shut down because everything was done,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Like no, not buying that a bit. But as far
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: as the other thing where I just said conspiracy therapy,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: like the crazy stuff, that's what I was talking about I.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Understand, Tony. I appreciate you clarification, and I understood what
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: you were saying. And you would never denegrate West Virginia fans.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: And I think you guys are very close to the program,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: But also for guys who were close to the program,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: you are You're very You're very candid and honest in
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: your evaluations. And if Tucker DeVries had been shut down
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: because the deal was done that Derees was going to
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: go to Indiana and this was just a protective for
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: that year, you all would know. You would know that,
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: that would That's not something you could keep secret. You
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: would know that. And even if you weren't weren't comfortable
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: reporting that, somehow I would hear about it from you
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: guys or from somebody, and it would So that's I
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: rely on your als reporting on that. Because you are
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: around the team and the coach all season, you would
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: have heard that would have been whispered correct.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And in hindsight, now you know the last I
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: think that was the last episode No. Two episodes ago,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: was an all time all timer. I mean, couldn't have
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: named that episode better because the more I think about this,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: absolutely floored with what happened. You talk about not seeing
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: it coming all time, all the time. Yeah, and it
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: will and it will impact me going forward. It will
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: impact me going forward. Can't believe it since we can't.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: The further we get away from it, the more I
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: can't believe it.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's believe it. I went through that last week.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: And I said that. I mean the name of the
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: episode came because I said a tweet out right after
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: it happened, just said an all timer. And I have
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: not changed my thought on that. The more I've thought
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: about things over the last six eight nine months, I'm
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: still flabbering acid. Well.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Rinn Baker was he might not have been, he might
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: not have been fored, but he felt like the athletic
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Department correct me if I'm wrong, felt like they could
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: keep divrees. They felt like they were putting things in
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: place that he would be satisfied to stay here. If
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: they made a mistake, guys, it was probably to not
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: be aware of or underestimate Dvre's interest of lifelong interest
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: perhaps in being at Indiana.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: See, I disagree with that. I'll push back on that,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: because this wasn't Everything's great. We're not talking. We haven't
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: had conversations, this is great, this is great, all of
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: a sudden, oh my god, he left for Indiana. There's
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: been daily conversation about the direction of the program from
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: day one all the way through the minute in which
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Darren said I'm leaving. This wasn't a stop start process.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: This is an ongoing, continuing process of it. So there
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: wasn't again, Darren was very aware of where West Virginia
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: stood and what it was willing to do and how
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: much it liked having Darren Devize as its head coach.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I'll say that, Okay, this wasn't a stopgap process where
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: you had to scramble and come up with, oh my god,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: he might be leaving. It wasn't that necessarily.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: John and Philadelphia, Hello am on my evening walk, feeling
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: down about the Mountaineers. That leads me to.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Turn on Let me clarify that, because that'll end up
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: in three different videos that aren't correct. I think there
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: was surprise at the level of interest in Indiana at
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: the very end, but the conversations about the support that
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: West Virginia was willing to provide and where it was
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: willing to get to and what it was trying to
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: get to had been, had never ceased and had always
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: been ongoing. There was a wide open flow of information
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: and communication going both ways from program to here's what
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: we need in program back. And it wasn't adversarial. It
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: was working in concert together. The batter way to say that,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I think that's the point. I got a more clarified
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: way to say that.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: And I think, as you said, the black Swan was
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: the level of interest in Indiana. Yes, that was the
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: thing that you had. No, you had no idea the
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: level of interest in Indiana.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: If if there was, if there was something missed, was
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: it that he was at the top of the list
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: at Indiana.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he was on the top of
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the list initially he became the top of the list.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: He became the top of the list, right, okay. I'm
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: on my evening walk and feeling down about the Mountaineers.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: That leads me to turn to three Guys hoping for
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: comedic relief about basketball. I crossed the bridge above the
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Schoogl River. I begin to question everything, even life itself.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Suddenly we get an update from Hopy on the eight
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: fifty seven one nineteen or whatever the heck. The dang
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: road that's getting fixed. Such a classic and funny update
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: that reminds me it's not all so bad. Let's go
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: out in here. It's ready to root for a new coach.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: John Anthony from Bridgeport now in Pittsburgh. I just returned
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: from travel listen to Searching Again episode. I feel the
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: need to scold you guys in Mountaineer Nation as I'm
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: very frustrated. Don't get me wrong, I got to know
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Darren just a little bit. I think he was a
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: good guy, great coach. I'm disappointed he's gone. Any of
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: us would do the same thing in our jobs for
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: whatever we thought was a good professional and family opportunity.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Were so quick to judge. But if our coaches or
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: teams behaved the way we are right now, we would
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: be up in arms. Is no no excuses, work harder,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: real or isn't it? Is the blue collar, hard hat
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: lunch pel what we are about in West Virginia or not.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I've never heard so much whining, all this questioning about
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: whether we're a legit program, complaining we don't have the money.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: It's crap. Figure it out. Other current potential coaches and
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: players hear that nonsense. Can you imagine if Darren did
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: what did that? When Tucker was heard? Or rich Rod
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: when we drew Georgia for the Sugar Bowl and six
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: stop it. We've got no freaking idea how much money
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: we have the ability to raise until we try. Do
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you know how much money? Ten dollars a month times
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: even one hundred thousand mountaineers is twelve million a year.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: If you don't like the new era, fine, don't give,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: but stop watching, stop complaining. We are where we are
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and we can win. Get back in the game. Stop
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: being a spectator, no excuses. Move on, act like we
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: are the top program that we are. Anthony from Bridgeport
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: got a lot there And every time you use the
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: word r he just spelled our, didn't write AI.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: This is.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: So there you go. This is kind of neat. A cake.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: This is from a rusty Monroe County, a cake my
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: daughter had made for the NCAA tournament. She's an infectious
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: disease pharmacist at Ruby. Just thought it might bring a
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: little laugh out loud march sadness. True that I laughed
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: because I hurt. Oh that's great.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: No, we still got the women though, Yes, that's right.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I hope they make a run.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, be nice Texter.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: You guys after the Utah basketball game at home this year,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: you had dinner with Angie and Brett Barthelmess, their daughter Meg,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: their future son in law, Drew Nap. I don't know
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: if Drew told you his claimed a fame at WVU.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Great dinner, by the way, fantastic.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was quite a baseball player. Scored the winning
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: run in the twenty eleven Maryland state title game. He
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: didn't quite make the West Virginia team as a walk on,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: but he played club instead. His first at bat for
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: the club team against Pitt bottom of the seventh. That's
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: all they played were seven innings, two outs, bases loaded,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: bases juiced, West Virginia down three. You guessed it. Drew
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: hits a walk off grand Slam, thus securing his place
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: in WV sports history. Jack Fleming would have been proud
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: as I was by Andy in Brookville.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good, Drew. We did not discuss that that night.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I may have that night. I mean I
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: didn't vibe or anything, but that I might might have
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: committed for three guys to do something for Coach Green
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: and women's volleyball yeah.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I think you brought that up earlier. We're finny too, just.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Out there throwing stuff out.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: We're fine.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I love coach Greeney though, whatever it takes.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: I said we'd have like a probably in on that too.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, good, three guys, three guys before the game. Oh dear,
• 58:45
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• 58:48
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• 58:49
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• 58:51
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• 58:53
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  Speaker 2: We had a nice chat in the Motel Tony before
• 1:01:06
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  Speaker 1: Funk think about that song and then think About Bill
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  Speaker 3: Amazing West virginia has an incredible deep. Roster oh yea
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  Speaker 2: State Charles wesley carrying that.
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  Speaker 1: One chucky And. Chuck, chuck by the, way very active
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  Speaker 1: texting me a, lot not, happy not happy of what's
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  Speaker 1: transpired and is waiting with baited breath for the next?
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  Speaker 1: Coach is he?
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  Speaker 1: Now is he? Out and oh, yeah he's out in
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  Speaker 2: Work and he got this. Text it's a good. One
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  Speaker 2: Is Emmett matthews going to be the last player to
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  Speaker 2: be that the last guy to do? So if that
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  Speaker 2: comes to fruition entered the portal? Twice so is that's?
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  Speaker 3: In the portal.
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  Speaker 1: that might be a long time before you see that.
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  Speaker 3: Again remember the stat how many four year players were
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  Speaker 3: there in The big twelve this?
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  Speaker 3: Huh that's a little, surprising isn't.
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  Speaker 1: It, well it tell us just something. Right one they've hung, on,
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  Speaker 1: guys are all over sixty five years. Old it's kind of,
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  Speaker 1: go in the, tournament, right four of them are in
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: The sweet. Sixteen so by, percentage you've got a higher
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  Speaker 1: percentage Of big twelve.
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  Speaker 3: Teams i'm trying to not watch because i'm you, Know West,
• 1:08:27
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• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: BUT i am checking, scores But i'm not. Watching i'm.
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  Speaker 3: WATCHING i, know, well you, guys love you guys should have.
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  Speaker 1: The sole crushing loss For Colorado. State the way that
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  Speaker 1: and then to. Lose those are the kind that if
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: You're maryland, like you'll always remember where you, were and
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  Speaker 1: if You're Colorado state, fans you'll always remember where you
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  Speaker 1: were and it'll.
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  Speaker 2: Hurt Colorado state just had the combo gut punch lose
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  Speaker 2: on a last second show in the nca, tournament your
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: coach leaves twelve hours. Later they just had the double combo.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Similar similar to not making THE ncaa tournament then losing your.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: COACH i read last. ONE i Read hoppy's commentary on
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: the new era of coaches. PLAYERS i fully agree with.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Him you can color me jaded those As i'm losing
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: my enthusiasm for college sports with the new age pay
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: for play for pay and the pure business model that
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: it is built. ON i certainly don't emotionally live and
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  Speaker 1: die with each winner, loss but one has to almost
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  Speaker 1: look at it as if your favorite college team were
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• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: him and all that but don't get wrapped around the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: axle about. It talk of loyalty and, fit. Etc seems
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: to ring very hollow these. Days still a, fan but
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  Speaker 3: Well you just have to if you, again unless you
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: want to be constantly disappointed and constantly, depressed you have
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: to accept that a lot of this is. Transactional you
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  Speaker 3: can still be emotionally involved and should, be but you
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  Speaker 3: have to accept.
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  Speaker 2: That, well here's the thing, too. Guys, listen AND i
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  Speaker 2: won't sit up here and tell people how to act
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  Speaker 2: or think or become. Involved everybody gets involved however they
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  Speaker 2: attending that's, watching it's listening however you want to and
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  Speaker 2: some walk. Away totally understand that. Too BUT i think
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  Speaker 2: it's important to also know this also is this is
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  Speaker 2: about sports is as disappointing it, Was and, Listen i'm
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• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: over the last. Week and at some point that pops
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• 1:10:37
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• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: to be optimism. Around AND i can just tell you right,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: now as bummed out AS i, am and as mad
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• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: going to be next, year or probably before next. Year
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  Speaker 2: i'm going to be emotionally, involved And i'm going to
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: be emotionally wrapped, up And i'm going to live and
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: die with every. Basket and that's just me and everybody
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: else out there listening can can take whatever approach they,
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  Speaker 2: want but that is one of the uties of. Sports
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• 1:11:06
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• 1:11:08
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• 1:11:14
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• 1:11:18
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  Speaker 3: Moments that's that's really well. Stated and did we have
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