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Mac & Bone Hour 4: Defensive Issues · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:15
  Speaker 1: There are going to be questions about the scheme. Is
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: this the right scheme for this?
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: They can question the scheme. Ain't nobody coming here doing that.
• 0:23
  Speaker 3: Monday through Thursday but us.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, we're going to go to work, clean
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: up what needs to be cleaned up, and then we're
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: going to get back to work.
• 0:32
  Speaker 4: That is Derrick Brown telling you what you can do
• 0:35
  Speaker 4: when you question the scheme. You ain't around Monday through Thursday.
• 0:40
  Speaker 4: He's speaking to a lot of you on the text line.
• 0:43
  Speaker 4: Mack and Bone with you. We've got to talk through
• 0:46
  Speaker 4: this as Panther fans. I don't blame you for being mad.
• 0:49
  Speaker 4: I feel like, Bone, there are two names. One of
• 0:53
  Speaker 4: two names are going to come up when one side
• 0:55
  Speaker 4: of the ball plays bad. If it's the offense, Bryce
• 0:57
  Speaker 4: Young is going to be the name that comes up.
• 0:59
  Speaker 4: If it's the defense, it's going to be a zero
• 1:01
  Speaker 4: of arrow. Now, I think that's awful simplified. I think
• 1:04
  Speaker 4: that's awful easy, lazy.
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: A little bit, too. But don't get me wrong.
• 1:09
  Speaker 4: If a zero of arrows unit keeps going out there
• 1:11
  Speaker 4: and getting punked like that, We're going to have a
• 1:13
  Speaker 4: problem on our hands, especially considering the money they spent
• 1:16
  Speaker 4: in the offseason and the offseason before that. Now, it
• 1:20
  Speaker 4: does suck that Turk Wharton's not out there, Bone. It
• 1:22
  Speaker 4: does suck that Skorton's not out there and that Pat
• 1:26
  Speaker 4: Jones isn't out there. That needs to be said. Those
• 1:27
  Speaker 4: are guys that Dan Morgan brought in to help that defense.
• 1:32
  Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong. Bears' offense is ridiculous.
• 1:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, the way Caleb Williams played, the running game,
• 1:38
  Speaker 4: that was my biggest fear coming in is their running game.
• 1:40
  Speaker 4: Ben Johnson's brilliant.
• 1:42
  Speaker 5: But.
• 1:43
  Speaker 4: 59 points is an absolute, utter embarrassment. So we got
• 1:48
  Speaker 4: to be mad. But the question is, like, where do
• 1:52
  Speaker 4: we put our anger? Do we call out specific mistakes
• 1:55
  Speaker 4: by the players? Or do we just go blanket statement
• 1:58
  Speaker 4: and call out Avero and call out Scheme and stuff
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: like that?
• 2:01
  Speaker 5: Or was it just a perfect storm of all of
• 2:03
  Speaker 5: it coming together at once? I thought Gamecock Kevin in
• 2:06
  Speaker 5: the Pulse of Panther Nation brought up an excellent point about,
• 2:10
  Speaker 5: you know, This defense is a lot of moving parts
• 2:13
  Speaker 5: that a lot of these guys are new together, didn't
• 2:15
  Speaker 5: play in the preseason, and who are they playing back
• 2:18
  Speaker 5: on offense? A well-oiled machine led by Ben Johnson where...
• 2:23
  Speaker 5: Maybe if they play weeks down the line, it's not
• 2:25
  Speaker 5: quite as bad as it was yesterday. That's not an excuse,
• 2:28
  Speaker 5: but it could also be just a terrible timing when
• 2:32
  Speaker 5: you're trying to get used to the season, used to
• 2:34
  Speaker 5: each other, and you're running into a potent offense in
• 2:37
  Speaker 5: the Bears who were clicking on all cylinders yesterday. So
• 2:40
  Speaker 5: it could also just be just wrong team at the
• 2:44
  Speaker 5: wrong time type thing as well.
• 2:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But that was real wrong. No, it was. Wrong
• 2:48
  Speaker 4: team at the wrong time, you give up 38. We
• 2:50
  Speaker 4: weren't ready for the battle, so we'll figure out who
• 2:53
  Speaker 4: that falls off. Wrong team at wrong time, 59. That's different, man.
• 2:56
  Speaker 4: This is supposed to be a PlayStation score. This score
• 3:00
  Speaker 4: is supposed to happen on video games. It ain't supposed
• 3:02
  Speaker 4: to happen in NFL and the Big 12. Video games
• 3:05
  Speaker 4: are the Big 12, Bo. Maybe the WAC. It's not
• 3:07
  Speaker 4: supposed to happen. So I do believe, and that's why
• 3:11
  Speaker 4: I was shocked how many people wanted to call in
• 3:13
  Speaker 4: during the Pulse of Panther Nation and say, That defense
• 3:16
  Speaker 4: is going to be all right. Let's celebrate the Panthers
• 3:19
  Speaker 4: offense because ultimately, and the reason I told you that's
• 3:22
  Speaker 4: Wednesday or Thursday for me, dog, is because it makes sense.
• 3:26
  Speaker 4: But allow me a day to call out the eyesore
• 3:29
  Speaker 4: stuff that I saw. Allow me a day to talk
• 3:32
  Speaker 4: about the lack of, and that's the thing is, I
• 3:35
  Speaker 4: saw so many things that were individual players making individual
• 3:38
  Speaker 4: mistakes that I can't sit here and just tell you
• 3:41
  Speaker 4: that a Giro of Arrow personally is the sole reason
• 3:44
  Speaker 4: for the loss of the game. Like, I saw Princely
• 3:47
  Speaker 4: over and over again lose contain, get pushed inside, and
• 3:50
  Speaker 4: there goes Williams outside. I saw Princely get shoved on
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  Speaker 4: that Menungai long run, the 61-yard run, but I saw
• 3:56
  Speaker 4: other guys get shoved, too. Hell, I saw Derrick Brown
• 3:59
  Speaker 4: get shoved by Wright and moved on a run touchdown
• 4:04
  Speaker 4: from the one-yard line.
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  Speaker 3: But I saw, like.
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  Speaker 4: on those two capability touchdown runs, I saw DBs that
• 4:12
  Speaker 4: didn't put, not Derrick Brown, but the defensive backs, that.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't put up any fight when being blocked in the
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: end zone.
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  Speaker 4: Merrick so much so that he got blocked and just
• 4:22
  Speaker 4: turned around and ran out the back of the end zone,
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  Speaker 4: away from the play. So I just saw so much,
• 4:26
  Speaker 4: Derrick Brown, uncharacteristic penalties. So we can have a conversation
• 4:30
  Speaker 4: about Avero and scheme. There were plenty of times, Bone,
• 4:33
  Speaker 4: that I noticed, oh crap, Ben Johnson just schemed that
• 4:36
  Speaker 4: guy open. Third down, Avero blitzes Scott. Nobody is over
• 4:41
  Speaker 4: there to pick up the area he came from. Cole
• 4:44
  Speaker 4: Komet's wide open. I mean, there are so many times
• 4:49
  Speaker 4: that it's like, oh, we just got out-schemed there. So
• 4:52
  Speaker 4: I just think it was a whole lot of crap, man.
• 4:55
  Speaker 4: And everybody deserves to be called out. There was some
• 4:58
  Speaker 4: chatter in the preseason and in camp. from people that
• 5:02
  Speaker 4: we know that Merrig may have came into camp a
• 5:06
  Speaker 4: little out of shape. Remember, Mac, when he was getting
• 5:08
  Speaker 4: toasted by Jimmy Horn off the line and drills? It
• 5:11
  Speaker 4: wasn't that concerning then because we said, well, why is
• 5:13
  Speaker 4: he on him anyway? But there was some thought that
• 5:16
  Speaker 4: overall Merrig did not come in in the best football shape.
• 5:19
  Speaker 4: And I will say, the way Merrig played yesterday, it's
• 5:22
  Speaker 4: a little concerning that he might not be at his
• 5:25
  Speaker 4: best still right now because he didn't really do anything yesterday.
• 5:28
  Speaker 3: I hardly saw him out there yesterday. Well, that's what
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: I was saying earlier. If you would think of how.
• 5:31
  Speaker 5: Many times we saw the back of Panthers' defensive jerseys,
• 5:34
  Speaker 5: we would have saw him out there somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: I said earlier, did you even know he played other
• 5:38
  Speaker 4: than the time people are like, why is he running
• 5:40
  Speaker 4: away from the play in the back of the end zone? Like,
• 5:42
  Speaker 4: it was a disappointing game from him. There's no doubt
• 5:45
  Speaker 4: about it. I thought he made no difference. Like, at
• 5:47
  Speaker 4: least Devin Lloyd. Like, Devin Lloyd, I thought, had some
• 5:50
  Speaker 4: rough moments. The coverage play was tough, although he was
• 5:53
  Speaker 4: pretty close on it, but he didn't get his head
• 5:55
  Speaker 4: around to the ball like Will Lee didn't.
• 5:58
  Speaker 3: But Devin Lloyd had plays. Devin Lloyd blitzing, I thought,
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: was a heat-seeking missile.
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 6:04
  Speaker 4: But apparently, according to the Weatherman, our guy Weatherman Mark,
• 6:08
  Speaker 4: I did not listen to Luke Kuechly and Jake DeLome,
• 6:10
  Speaker 4: but Weatherman was saying that Luke was like, it's a
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: little bit too much blitzing against a guy like Caleb Williams.
• 6:16
  Speaker 4: PFF had them blitzing 54% of the time, which is
• 6:19
  Speaker 4: very high for them. Maybe that's a mistake, you know?
• 6:23
  Speaker 4: But he lit up. If we didn't blitz, he lit
• 6:26
  Speaker 4: us up. If we blitzed, he lit up every aspect
• 6:30
  Speaker 4: of the defense. I also think you can question, I
• 6:33
  Speaker 4: said it earlier, should Will Lee be out there playing
• 6:35
  Speaker 4: that many snaps? Did we try to rush the horn,
• 6:38
  Speaker 4: play 20 snaps in the slot? thing or should we
• 6:41
  Speaker 4: have kept horn outside and played the veteran shaw smith wade.
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: More at slot and not and not force the the
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  Speaker 3: willy issue that's that's a zero in a position should
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: cam jackson have been should cam jackson have had a
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: helmet we got run for for over seven yards of
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  Speaker 3: carry many of it right up the gut he had
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: a good camp i know he got a little injured
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  Speaker 3: there towards the end Could he have helped?
• 7:02
  Speaker 4: So I do think there's definite questions with Averro. I
• 7:06
  Speaker 4: guess my biggest problem bone with the Averro questions are
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  Speaker 4: the overall, like, I hate the 3-4.
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  Speaker 3: The 3-4 sucks.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, you know how many good-to-great defenses or the
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  Speaker 4: last two Super Bowl winners? Like, so many good defenses
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  Speaker 4: play 3-4s.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, that's not the problem. You've got to
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  Speaker 3: play it well.
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  Speaker 5: I will say, Avero's seed is getting hot. If not
• 7:27
  Speaker 5: Avero going relatively soon, could there be... some changes that
• 7:32
  Speaker 5: position coaches on defense, because it is not just Averro
• 7:36
  Speaker 5: that coaches these guys up. There's also position coaches responsible
• 7:40
  Speaker 5: for a lot of fundamental things as well. And if
• 7:42
  Speaker 5: the fundamentals simply aren't there, well, that's going to fall
• 7:45
  Speaker 5: on somebody, if not Averro, that may fall on position
• 7:48
  Speaker 5: coaches at some point.
• 7:49
  Speaker 4: I think to your point earlier, though, Bone, like I know,
• 7:52
  Speaker 4: I know, I understand we just want to fire people.
• 7:56
  Speaker 3: I understand, Bone.
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  Speaker 4: Ask your friend Shaqued Bartell if we just want to
• 8:00
  Speaker 4: fire people as sports fans.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he tried to fire Brian Sticker on the Braves
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: during the World Series. Exactly. But they were leading.
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  Speaker 4: So I get it. To me, it doesn't always have
• 8:10
  Speaker 4: to be one bad week.
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  Speaker 3: And it was horrible. One atrocious week, and we're firing.
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  Speaker 4: I think the hope is that the quarterbacks we're going
• 8:17
  Speaker 4: up against here the next couple weeks, that the defense
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  Speaker 4: gets its footing. And that maybe we can chill out
• 8:23
  Speaker 4: a little bit on firing. I mean, last year, Bone,
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: the offense ranked, what was it, 27th, 28th in the
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  Speaker 4: entire NFL while the defense was 16th? I know we
• 8:34
  Speaker 4: had five losses last year where we gave up 20
• 8:37
  Speaker 4: points or less.
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  Speaker 3: Do we want Canales fired? Do we want Idzik fired
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: last year?
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  Speaker 4: Because the offense clearly was the worst unit. I don't know.
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: Let's just see where it goes. We play some hideous quarterbacks.
• 8:52
  Speaker 4: If these two hideous quarterbacks, whoever we're seeing, I don't
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  Speaker 4: even know. It's like quarterback roulette, bone, the next two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Spin the wheel. Who are we going to get?
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  Speaker 4: But if they light us up, we've got a serious
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: problem then. Then we can start talking about pink slips.
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  Speaker 5: Let's let it play out for the first four weeks,
• 9:06
  Speaker 5: and then there's a bye week, and we'll see what
• 9:07
  Speaker 5: happens there. And I bring that up because I would
• 9:10
  Speaker 5: expect the defense to, what you're saying, play better the
• 9:13
  Speaker 5: next two weeks. And then who is it, Mac? Well,
• 9:15
  Speaker 5: it's the Lions. That's the next explosive offense they play.
• 9:19
  Speaker 5: Do they improve by then and put out a good
• 9:21
  Speaker 5: showing in that game at home on Saturday Night Football?
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: No.
• 9:24
  Speaker 5: Is it another game where Jared Goff and Gibbs go off? And, oh,
• 9:28
  Speaker 5: my God, it's a nightmare again. Maybe not to that level.
• 9:31
  Speaker 5: But let's just see the next two weeks against bad teams, offenses.
• 9:35
  Speaker 5: And then I think that Lions game could tell us
• 9:38
  Speaker 5: a lot. Do they look a lot better? And then
• 9:41
  Speaker 5: there's a bye week. And if they look a lot better,
• 9:43
  Speaker 5: you know, that's all right.
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: If it goes horrible.
• 9:46
  Speaker 5: Maybe there's changes of some sort made then, but let's
• 9:49
  Speaker 5: just let it play out the first four weeks. Get
• 9:51
  Speaker 5: to the bye week, and I really want to see
• 9:53
  Speaker 5: them play that Detroit offense to see how far they
• 9:56
  Speaker 5: come the next couple weeks.
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: Definitely, but they've got to perform these next two weeks first.
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: If they don't perform well against these teams, then it's
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: a major problem. And you've got B.
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: John Robinson against a run defense who just gave up 291. Now,
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: the difference is you don't have Cooper Rush ain't going
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: to be running around all over the place or Penix
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: or whoever we're getting. um like caleb williams and also
• 10:15
  Speaker 4: i don't think they're you know i don't think you're
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: near as afraid of their arms by the way this
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: is the list for people who don't like three fours
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: uh the broncos the seahawks the patriots the eagles these
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: are some of the defenses the packers these are some
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: of the defenses that play three four bone i have
• 10:30
  Speaker 4: a list right here chargers were a good defense last
• 10:33
  Speaker 4: year pittsburgh has obviously done it for years the ravens
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: have done it for years like so the rams So
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: it's just like, I don't think the three, four is
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: the problem. Now, the other thing we're getting is Mac,
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: it's not the three, four, it's the soft zones. It's,
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: it's just, it's, it's, it's the Vic Fangio mindset. It's
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: the umbrella coverage. It's the keep everything in front. Now, ironically, yesterday,
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: what got us is the big plays were designed bone
• 10:58
  Speaker 4: to give up the short stuff. And yesterday we gave
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: up eight plays of 22 yards or more. But a
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: lot of them were when Caleb Williams got out of
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: the pocket. And a lot of them are runs. Four
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: runs of 22 yards or more. You can't blame giving
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: up 291 yards on the ground to soft zones, though.
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: That's just you're getting your tail whipped up front, isn't it?
• 11:20
  Speaker 5: The run, and it wasn't, look, 291 is bad no
• 11:24
  Speaker 5: matter what, especially the yards per carry for the backs
• 11:28
  Speaker 5: and Caleb Williams. But it was the ease, Mac, in
• 11:30
  Speaker 5: which they got those yards. It wasn't like DeAndre Swift, Mac,
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  Speaker 5: and Menungai were dragging tacklers for extra yards. They were,
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, Caleb Williams' run, untouched. They were running right
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: up the middle like it was a Sunday stroll. That's
• 11:44
  Speaker 5: the problem. There wasn't much resistance on their runs. That's
• 11:47
  Speaker 5: the problem. There wasn't like they were juking guys and
• 11:51
  Speaker 5: going Barry Sanders. They were just straight runs up the
• 11:53
  Speaker 5: middle most of the time. PFF had us with only
• 11:54
  Speaker 5: 12 missed tackles.
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: I would have thought it would be higher than that. So, like,
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: I know Lloyd and Lee missed one on Swift on
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: a long run the first half. But a lot of times,
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: to your point, we weren't even credited with a missed
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: tackle because we weren't necessarily close enough. We weren't getting
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: off blocks. So I don't know, man. There's a whole
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: lot going on. You've got to be a lot smarter
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: than me, too, to figure out 100% about schemes.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I ain't so damn X
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: and O genius, and none of us are. Husky Pantsback
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: is very upset this morning. You know why?
• 12:25
  Speaker 5: He doesn't understand why people are freaking out. We're a
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: few miscues away from being in that game. We played
• 12:30
  Speaker 5: great yesterday, and we're tied for first. I will say
• 12:32
  Speaker 5: that tied for first, I love that. We haven't said
• 12:34
  Speaker 5: that enough today. You would have thought Homer Mack would
• 12:36
  Speaker 5: have said that 60 times. I will say there's something
• 12:39
  Speaker 5: to be said for the handful of mistakes. The game
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: was 31-31. I messed things up by tweeting out, this
• 12:46
  Speaker 5: is a freaking great game. And from that point on, Bone,
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: it was not a freaking great game for the Panthers.
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: We got outscored 28-6. But if you break it down,
• 12:54
  Speaker 5: the Derrick Brown play, the game was tight when Derrick
• 12:57
  Speaker 5: Brown had his roughing to passer. If they have third
• 13:00
  Speaker 5: and 20 and we hold them to a field goal there,
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: it's 34-31. So then when we go down and we
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: drive the other way, Maybe we don't. Maybe we kick
• 13:10
  Speaker 5: the field goal there, Bo. Maybe we don't go for it.
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: Where we go for it on fourth and three, try
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: to throw the corner route to TMAC incomplete.
• 13:20
  Speaker 5: It was a very deflating penalty by Derrick Brown. That
• 13:22
  Speaker 5: defense thought they were, you know, it's getting later in
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: the game. They're probably getting a little tired. They probably thought,
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: all right, we're getting off the field. All of a sudden,
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: they got to defend that offense some more. You could
• 13:35
  Speaker 5: feel the body language back was like, oh, boy, here
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: we go. We got to run around and try to
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: get Caleb Williams again.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: It was brutal. That was kind of it.
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: I think when they scored a touchdown there, instead of
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: a field goal, I think then we felt like, oh,
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: we can't possibly kick a field. What yard were we
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: at when we went for it on fourth and three?
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: Were we even in field goal range or am I
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: saying something dumb?
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly.
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: I have to look that up. But then you just
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: keep talking about it. The TMAC fumble bone, we're down
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: 14 and we're driving. We can cut this back to
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: a seven-point game. TMAC fumbles. Hell, even the damn Derrick
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: Brown offside penalty is killer. You get that ball. Now, granted,
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: Bobby Brown ran it, tried to run it out instead
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: of touch it back. So we would have been at
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: the one. But, Philly, at that point, we're still only
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: down 14. So it does feel like there's about four
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: plays that really led. Plus, I do think we wore
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: down defensively. I think they pounded the football at us
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: with a lead late, and it was 90-something degrees defensively.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: And they won time possession by almost 10 minutes. I
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: do think we wore down there.
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: At the Chicago 39, did that sound about right? So
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: if it was, we probably couldn't kick a field goal there.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that becomes one of 56 yarders.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he might be able to hit that.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: But you're probably still going for it as aggressive as
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Dave was. That's the only possession that says downs. So
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: I think that's it.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: And it was a game that maxed. Like a field
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: goal was going to, you were making a one possession game,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: a one possession game.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: But I was saying at that point, if you give
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: up only a field goal, then maybe you feel like
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: I can tie it. When you give up a touchdown,
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: you probably feel like we got to get it. But
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: that's probably too far to kick. Plus, Canales was a
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: fourth down. animal last year, so they're probably going for
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: it anyway. But I do think there's a point there, Bone,
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: of how did it get from 31-31, even-Steven shootout, get
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: your popcorn ready, to a demolition that quickly?
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: It happened very quickly.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the score got so lopsided, but it may not
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: be indicative of how close that game was. It was
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: a great back-and-forth game for a while, and then it
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: just completely imploded.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: It just collapsed all around us. We were eaten by
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: live bears.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: What? Is it bad to say I'd rather, I would
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: rather get eaten by a lion? No, I can't say that,
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: can I? That's going to be slightly more painful to.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Watch in that defense.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: I would rather fight a Kodiak bear than see a
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: Ben Johnson offense again.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: What is this thing texters are talking about? You know
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: about this. I completely missed this. What Caleb Williams said
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: about our defense to Dave Canales?
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to tell if he's being snarky or
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: is he just trying to come up with something. When
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: did this happen? I missed this completely.
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: Right after the game on the field, Dave Canales says
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: something to him, daps him up, they hug. And Caleb
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: Williams says, you have a great defense, man.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: He gives him a check. Oh, he being a smart ass. 100% smartass,
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: don't you think? Y'all are a great defense. Gabe McDonald
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: has the footage. Y'all are a great defense, man.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's smartassery. Like, if he said, man, we went toe-to-toe.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Your offense, you know what I mean? Your offense pushed me.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: That would be genuine, I would think.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, he deadpanned. He didn't smile. Oh, that's genuine.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Boom.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: You're the master of deadpan and smartassery. I'm watching. You
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: don't think he's capable of that, too? Yeah. Damn Williams.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Why would anyone after that game say you have a
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: good defense unless you're being a damn smartass? God, it
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: makes me even more mad we let him just kill us.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: It didn't make a lot of sense when I read
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: it the first time.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Okay. So that didn't make the broadcast. That was.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: That was Gabe McDonald right there. Gabe McDonald had the audio.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: E-I-E-I-O. And on that audio, Caleb made a smartass comment.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Should I just stop? Yep, please. I didn't really progress
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: as well as I had thought. We got an EIEI
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: go right now before Colin whips our ASS. We got
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: EIEI go.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: All right, we come back. It's weekend conclusions, college football style.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: I think you've got something about NASCAR. We've got Charlotte FC.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: And we've got to give some praise back to Charlotte
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: 49ers not getting beat by a million.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Since today, we really played well for three quarters and
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: then didn't play well enough in the fourth quarter.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: That's the bottom line.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: And we stalled on some offensive drives. I felt we
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: had them on the ropes and didn't finish. So we
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: had to go back and figure out why that was.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: That happened, and they sustained some drives, and then converted
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: those four downs, kept us on the field on defense,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: and then certainly had a chance to keep the field
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: goal to make it a two-score game, and didn't do that.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, this one hurts.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I think that was the message to the guys in
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the locker room. We won the first two quarters and
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: did not obviously win the fourth quarter. We know that
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: that's the biggest part of the season. We have to
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: win the fourth quarter, especially on the road. So, you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I can't really sit here and tell you exactly. I
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: know why that happened. But, you know, we all got
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: to take accountability and get these things corrected and fixed.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Ryan Day. The haters are back, by the way. The
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: haters are back. Ryan Day bought a little bit of goodwill, Bo. Obviously,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: with a national championship run. But you can't blow a
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: 20-point lead in a game like that and not get
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: the blowback. And he's feeling it. And listen, in the
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: playoff era, Bone, I mean, I don't think it took
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: away from the atmosphere of the game. I mean, big
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: college football games to me are still great. I don't
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: think it takes away. from the atmosphere and the excitement
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: of these games but obviously both teams there could be
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: a rematch in the playoffs at some point but that
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: is a horrendous way to lose a football game I
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: say this bone being very happy that the hated buck
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: that a team I can't stand did that and I
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: like it for Arch Manning he seems like a genuine
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: good kid and he has not really had that moment yet, Bone.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, I do think I like the way he
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: rebounded a bit late in the season last year, but
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: I still think he's been kind of more last name.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: you know, then substance to this point. And the way
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: he drove them back, the way he improvised and made
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: things happen, the way he hit big time passes on
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: fourth down over and over and over again. I love
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: it for Arch and I love it for the Buckeyes.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Buckeye fans. Yeah.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: And you talk about.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Maybe the trajectory of a program changing in one quarter,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: we were looking at maybe the end of Sark and
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden they get that win. And it's amazing, Mac,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: how fast a team can go from looking like changes
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: will have to be made to, oh, Texas found something now,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: and can they continue that momentum? As of right now, Matt,
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: they still have one, two, three, four. Texas still has
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: seven ranked games on their schedule, so we're going to
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: see a lot more big games out of Texas, but
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: now they've got confidence in beating Ohio State, which they
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: didn't have last year.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: And Ohio State's schedule, Bone, is pretty tough by their
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: usual standards.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Although we don't know about Oregon, no doubt.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: But the Oregon game doesn't look like the big, horrible
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: game that it was before the season. My God, I'm
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: telling you, Bone, I have not, the last two years,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: my national championship picks, and we'll see, Oregon's not... Dead yet,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: but the defense certainly looks like it's not national championship good.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: And their offensive line, my God. My two national title
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: picks the last two years, Clemson loses week one, and
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Oregon almost loses week one this year and loses in
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: week two.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Rough starts. You and Brandon Walker both lost your champions.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: And last year, Brandon Walker had Penn State and Clemson
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: in the championship game, like I did.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I was going to say. I've got Notre Dame-Miami. I'm
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: holding strong so far. Good start to the season for you, man. Mack,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: who lost containment worse over the weekend? The Panthers trying
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: to contain the Bears and Caleb Williams? Or Holly Rowe
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: trying to contain Steve Sarkeesian in the postseason? see he
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: was not happy with something going he had to wait
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: a while or something i.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Don't know what was going on he i missed this
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: thing because i turned it all i turned that game
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: off went to other stuff like immediately but i saw
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: that it went viral or whatever looked like it was
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: all i saw the next morning was everybody talking about
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: sarkeesian running away from holly road i can you believe
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: the buck guys bone uh the buck guys left uh
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: in the early fourth quarter two in the middle of
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: the game that was i can't believe that Hey, just left.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Just stop playing. It's a long flight back to Columbus.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: That kicker, too.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: That poor kicker had a chance to put the game over,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: and even he gagged.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Even he was feeling the pressure, man. Oh, my God.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Matt, can we talk about Akron this weekend? Why are
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: we talking Akron here? In conclusion, it was their home
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: opener against Robert Morris, where they had the fan that
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: won the contest that was allowed to call the first
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: series in And it resulted in a fumble, Mac. The
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: guy called a nice play all the way down into
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: the red zone, I believe. I think it was. And
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Akron fumbled. But nonetheless, Joe Moorhead, the head coach of Akron,
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: gave the game ball to the fan.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Marty.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: That's your boy, Marty. I forget what his last name is.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: He's a local CEO in Akron.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and Joe Moorhead, the head coach, said when he
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: first heard about this idea, he thought, This is horrible.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: I don't even let my coaches call plays other than me.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: I don't want to let a fan do this, embarrass
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: the game. Then he saw the traction. It went viral.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: And they said, this is going to generate revenue for
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: NIL and revenue sharing. We're the second lowest budgeted team
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: in all FBS. Now Joe Moorhead is all completely in.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Now Joe Moorhead says, hey, let a fan call every
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: day and play. Here's the deep philosophical.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Can a fan call the Panthers defense? Here's the question.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: They had one doing that yesterday.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. The text line.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: The text liner should get the call of defense one week.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, I never knew.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: We had so many brilliant defensive minds out there on
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: the text line.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: What a lucky show we are. But anyway. Did you
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: see Canals back there? Our defense has fun, Matt Martin.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Come on to play. So here's the question, Bone. Here's
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: the question. Are we blaming... the coach or the player
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: for fumbling? Are we blaming the play caller bone Marty
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: and the Arby's hat? Or I guess, I guess their
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: play caller was sponsored by Arby's.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: That was kind of weird. Are we blaming Marty to
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: play caller bone or are we blaming the player? Is
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: he scheme? Marty had them moving. Marty's play calling had
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: them moving on that first series. I think that was
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: a player letting the play caller down. You know how
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: the college sports are.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: How long until Wayne Kiffin back hires Marty to his staff?
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: As a senior advisor.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Bro, considering they were leading 13-7 at the half against
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Louisiana Tech, he might do it any minute now. But
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: was that not the perfect lead-in, by the way, to
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: the Ole Miss game for Lane Kiffin?
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Like, they were asleep at the wheel. The....
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Louisiana Tech had negative yards in the first half, but
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: was only down six, 13-7, because of a pick six
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: that was thrown in the end zone. It was like
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: a 100-yard pick six. But Lane Kiffin, after the game,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: was able to say, oh, they believed all their hype.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I couldn't get their attention last week. Couldn't tell them. Like,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: that's the perfect lead-in for the Mississippi showdown. Because he's
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: going to rip the crap out of them, and they're
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: listening now. That is going to be the primetime game.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: It's a pretty good weekend, Mac, all the way through
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: of games. That's going to be the headliner. John Talti
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: will join us tomorrow. who just wrote the book that's
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: actually out tomorrow on Lane Kiffin. So we're looking forward
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: to that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: By the way, LSU Mackers, as I struggle to speak here, LSU,
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: I believe, opened as a– yes, LSU is the favorite
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: at Oxford.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: By three points. Three-point road favorite. All right, there you
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: have it. There you have it, man. We also got
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Virginia-West Virginia here at the bank.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: That's right, a little Duke's Mayo game at the bank.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: What are West Virginia fans going to do with Duke's Mayo?
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, I shudder to think, Bone, what partying West
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Virginia fans may do with the sponsor's product.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: That's the ultimate contradiction, Mac, of fan behavior.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I could see Virginia fans, Mac, taking a little dollop
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: of mayonnaise and... A little dollop of daisy. Not bad.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: West Virginia fans.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's Dukes.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: They're going to end up with all over their heads.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: How disgusted are Virginia fans going to be by the
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: behavior of West Virginia?
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: In their dockers with the sweaters tied around their necks. Oh,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: my God. They're heathens, Buffy. They're heathens. What did I
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: want to say?
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Charlotte. So Ole Miss is coming in, Bo. Ole Miss
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: is coming into this game as underdogs against Lane Kiffin
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: off a 41-9 win. against Charlotte. I don't know how
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Niner fans felt watching that game. I know how one did.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: AC was texting me about that game, and he said, man,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I feel better about this team, the fight they showed.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: But when they came out in the third quarter, moved
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: the football multiple times. Now, they couldn't finish drives. They
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: kept having to settle for field goals. They actually got
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: a couple stops there in the third quarter as well.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: I thought they acquitted themselves pretty darn well, considering they
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: got lit up defensively bone the week before and could
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: not tackle a running back for the Citadel. I thought
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: that was a pretty good performance. Now, we'll see. Does
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: it carry over? Does it give them a little bit
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: of confidence for this App State game? I still don't
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: know what to fully expect. I'll say this about the defense, too,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: of Charlotte. That kid, Gavin Willis, number 13, was absolutely
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: all over the field. He was absolutely playing like a
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: man with his hair on fire. Two and a half
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: tackles for loss, seven total tackles against that group of players.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: I thought Charlotte fans could hold their heads certainly higher
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: this week than the first week, I think.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, then they have Louisiana and Memphis after that. So
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: I was wondering maybe. Louisiana just scored 30 on USC,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: so I don't know. They lost 49-30 to the Trojans,
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: but I'm trying to figure out where wins may come
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: from on the schedule. They certainly did not get demolished
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: as bad as we thought, but I can't see them
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: winning against this app team. I don't know. I'm rooting
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: for them to get a few. I'm just trying to— unless Mac—
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Third to last game of the year, Charlotte.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Once again gets the East Carolina Pirates. What could go
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: wrong for the Pirates this year? Oh, that's right. We've
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: already seen what can go wrong. Where did Salty Pirate go?
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Salty Pirate is hanging out with the Ohio State fans.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: There's a party involving ECU fans and Ohio State fans. And, well, honestly,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Panther fans should have gotten an invite. Where's my invite, fellas?
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: We should have gotten an invite, too. is your over
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: is hanging out there too bone everybody to have rough
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: weekends is hanging out together uh 704-570-9610 if you want
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: to jump in here if you have comments about college
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: football we're throwing our final college football conclusions out there.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: People are coming uh coming forward including bagel guy that
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: they also won money off picante's picks this weekend.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Picante's a machine, man. He's a damn machine.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: And he makes picks that you're like, the Nebraska one
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: I definitely liked when he made that one. Nebraska, because
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Bowling Green lost to Tarleton State the week before. Nebraska
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: routed Bowling Green this week. The faith in the Oklahoma
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: State-Oregon over-under. Like, he still kind of had faith in
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma State's offense.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: He did. I don't know how he did that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: And Drew Mestemaker, after looking really bad the week before,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: goes out there and has 426 total yards, and John
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Elway helicopters his way into the damn end zone.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Crazy. I didn't know he had wheels like that. He
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: had one down the side. where he was just, I mean.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: They said he ran for more yards in that game
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: they did all last season.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Had no idea. Ran for 100 plus yards. Who was
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: trying to chase him? The Panthers defense? 704 number says,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I have a conclusion. You guys owe me and all
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: the Michigan fans in Charlotte an apology. Maybe. Maybe.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: I think the whole country, though, probably owes you an
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: apology then.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I thought that game said a lot more about what
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma isn't capable of being.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Everyone knew Michigan was going to bounce back and play inspired.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I've tried to defend Mateer, but, Mac, he was bad.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: He got no hand injury to use as a shooter.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: That interception at the end was brutal, man.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Horrible.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: In a game like that.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Where you're 10-10, it's a defensive struggle, and any turnover
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: in your own territory can mean ballgame. Why are you
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: trying to force that thing in there? And the guy
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: runs it back to the doorstep, and they score a touchdown. Yeah,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: I'm off the material Oklahoma bandwagon. Because that offense is
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: just challenged. And I was one of the many in
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: the media that subscribed to the fact that early season
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Mateer is the real Mateer from last year. And that
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: he just wasn't right down the stretch because of his injury.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: You can't use the injury excuse there. And you're going
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: to have to play good defenses in your SEC schedule.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Their schedule is brutal, by the way, in conference.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm with you.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: That offense is a joke. Michigan, though, showed heart. I
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: think we all thought, though, Boney, it would be a low-scoring,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: close game. I just didn't think Michigan would win. But
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I don't think we were on here saying they were
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: going to be blown out, though. Mack, I'm also jumping
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: off the Wagner Seahawks bandwagon.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, man, no.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Did you see what happened to them when they took
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: on Billy Napier's James Madison squad this weekend?
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: They were beaten 87-3. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Billy Naper,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: you Sunbelt bully, you. Back to where you belong, isn't it? Bro,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: when you give up 20... Who gave up all the points?
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Wagner.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Wagner gave up 87 points.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Was that Jack Wagner, the actor playing by himself on D?
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, how could you be that bad?
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Bro, when you give up a Panther spot, a Luke spot,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: plus 28... You had yourself a brutal afternoon.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: What would the Bears do to Wagner? 59, probably. Finney,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: do we want to do a really quick update here?
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Are you ready to go? Yeah, get the fit dog
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: in here. Now that he's got a girlfriend. Finney and
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: his girlfriend sitting in a tree.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: How's it go after that? How's it go after that?
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: It's all right to be a little fitty.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: A little hometown or a big old city.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Might as well share. Might as well smile. Life goes
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: on for a little fitty.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: I vote it goes like this. Fitty his girlfriend sitting
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: in a tree. He's heating a value meal for Mickey D's.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: That's how it goes.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Had that for breakfast on my way in before Panther
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: pregame yesterday. Me too, me too. This update brought to
• 32:32
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• 32:35
  Speaker 1: something doesn't look right with your roof or your gutters,
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• 32:40
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• 32:43
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• 32:45
  Speaker 4: 704-334-9934. 704-334-9934.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: 9-9-3-4. Mack, the drought continues. An American man has not
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: won the U.S. Open since Andy Roddick in 2003.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: After Ben Shelton fell to Sasha Zverev yesterday in four sets.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Sasha got two major titles this Grand Slam season. He
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: won the French title. And he won the U.S. Open,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: but we are now up to 23 years and counting
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: since a U.S. man has won the U.S.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Open. Do you think we need to do a segment tomorrow, Bone,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: about the state of American men tennis and how we
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: turn this thing around, how we get these guys to
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: win a U.S.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Open? You in for that, Bone? On our show? Did
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I not sell that good to you? No, I'm not in.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Anything else, Finney? Kyle Larson won, though, Finney.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Look out.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Up from seventh to second in the points. Y'all better
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: look out, you Yotas. You Yotas and you Blue Ovals.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: You better look the hell out.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: What's happening during this? You have just revved up right now.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: I'm so excited about Kyle Larson.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: They finally got it these last couple weeks, man.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: I think you're trying to bury the Panthers a lot.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: I see it in your eyes, Mac, right now. You're
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: starting to feel we got the Falcons on Sunday, aren't you?
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: We're going to get back on Sunday. I'll get there.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: I'll get there. I feel it right now. You're starting
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: to turn that corner. I'll get there, man.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Not after a 59 burger at home. Like, you've been
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: a bit on the road, maybe.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Do you not see how fired up Mac is right now?
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: But at home?
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: No.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: At least until Wednesday. We've got to sit in this
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and we've got to wallow.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, you want to wallow tomorrow too, Finny? Two days
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: of wallowing? You're doing two wallows?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going home today to re-watch the game. Oh, yeah.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I want my own.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Gripe sesh tomorrow. You're going to go home and watch
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Sons of Anarchy. You're not watching this game.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: That's on Wednesdays, Moe.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: I re-watched the game, Finny. It doesn't get any better
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: the second time. although you do realize when you watch
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: it the second time you're like holy crap this went
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: from 31 31 to 52 31 really quick like bing
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: bang boom you know what i mean.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Was that good breakdown? Was that genius breakdown? Bing, bang, boom?
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: That's how Kendrick started his Drake diss.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: All right, we come back. If you say so, Fit.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: We come back. It's the wrap-up.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: We wrap up the show, whatever we just did today,
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: and get you set for Monday Night Football of the Night,
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: Broncos Chiefs Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: There's a squirrel on the pitch.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: This game has it all.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: I was about to say, we've now gotten everything.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, now he can't get off. There's so many boards
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: around the field.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: I was about to say, he is trapped.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I am so glad I don't have to deal with that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Squirrels freak me out.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: They don't freak you out.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I'm okay with squirrels. It's the raccoons I don't like.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, all of the above for me.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Squirrel is still.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Deer? I could do a deer.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: I don't like.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: They're scared of you.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I don't like deer.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: What do you not like about deer?
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I don't like what they can do to my car. Right.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: That's the problem. You know, usually you find deer when
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: you don't want to find them. If I'm walking and
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I see a deer, I have no problem.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: But if.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: A deer in a car. Of course. Of course. Finney started.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: I like the way Finney did it. Finney just started.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Let's just pot Willie down here. It's enough of Willie
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: on animals. Is he still talking, Vinny? Is that Willie's
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: demo tape? Willie and Anna's demo tape for Animal Planet?
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: They want to host a show on Animal Planet.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Willie, the way he said raccoons was really interesting. A raccoon.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: That was very interesting. Very proper, the way he said that. Well,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I would argue very incorrect, the way he said it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Is it not a raccoon?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Or have I been out to lunch all these years?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Who are you fooling? Willie may have
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: the proper pronunciation, though, for all we know.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: So you thought that was the proper, the elitist pronunciation
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: of raccoon.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I don't really do well with raccoons.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: My neighborhood is so upscale that they don't have raccoons.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: We have raccoons. Anyway, that is Willie. It's like a
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: raccoon that wears a beret and drinks tea. Willie and
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Anna Witte, if you were not watching the match the
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: other night, Charlotte FC, 3-3 draw, entertaining. Honestly, they were outplayed,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: but dang, they had a 3-2 lead late and gave
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: up a goal. But anyway, a squirrel runs out onto
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: the field in the middle of the match. A guy
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: runs out with a bucket trying to scoop the squirrel up.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: That ain't going to work.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Luckily, that's what Bonte earlier said.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: The guy running after the squirrel with a bucket is
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: like the Panthers running after Caleb Williams.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it looks like.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: That's Prinsley on the pitch.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: It was actually Prinsley out there. Oh, my God.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Anyway, eventually he ran into the tunnel, the squirrel.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: DC this week, right? D.C. on the road. Third straight
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: road game this week for Charlotte. How's D.C. been doing?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Do we know? I mean, they're D.C., so it can't
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: be that good, right? I don't know. Were they around
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: 9th or 10th in the conference, I feel like?
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Everything is great.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: No, not you. No, we know that's not going good.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Charlotte F.C. did move up, though, Bone. D.C. 's 11th
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: right now in the conference. Yeah, there you go. Charlotte F.C.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Did move up to 4th, though, with the draw. Chicago
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: has one less game played, though. They're a point behind
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: us in 5th. But we're right there. We're three points
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: out of third. So we're in this mix, man. We're
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: in this mix for a nice seed going into the playoffs.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Let's get some of these texts. Do want to mention
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes returns tonight. Chiefs and Broncos. Pretty damn attractive
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Monday night game. And you have the Braves and the Cubs.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Is that tonight? Yes.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: They are starting tonight, right? That series? They are, yep.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Braves won two out of three over the weekend. So
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: they're in a good spot, man. They're up four now
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: over the Phillies. They're in a very good spot. Yankees
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: won two out of three, and they still end up
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: in a French maid outfit.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Did you see the text from your friend Doug Ropp
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: about it? What did he say?
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: He reacted to Bone having to wear a French maid
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: outfit as a result of a Mets-Yankees bet.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Yikes, shnikes. I may wear some Nike.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Granny Pat, by the way, I asked her back if
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: she had a French maid ensemble I can wear. She
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: said no, but she's got an old nursing outfit I
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: can borrow. Hey, do we want to pivot to that?
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: You and Granny Pat's old nurse outfit? That might work
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Fit uh let's see here why someone text her his
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: name's fitties gf fitties is that fitties girlfriend is your
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: girlfriend texting in she is not squirrel is probably a
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: better option in midfield than luca de la torre.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, dear God.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: All right, anyway, let's continue here. Let's continue. We need Westy.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: We're getting Westy back. We need Westy back.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Panther Steve wants Fitty you to send him a photo
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: of your girlfriend.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: That's just creepy.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: That is.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: That is a little, huh? Panther Steve dancing his hiney off, though,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: before the show, man. No man has ever danced outside
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: a glass window with the intensity that he does for
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: me and KB in the pregame.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Did the dancing guy eventually show up yesterday?
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: No, dancing guy never showed up. Got in dances for hours.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: And that's why we got our ass kicked yesterday.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: That's it right there. That's it. Maybe that. Or maybe
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: something I said. Did I say something?
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: We did all pick the Panthers to win the game
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: and only give up 23 points or something like that.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but the good news is that no one's going
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: to tweet out the scores right before the game to
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: embarrass us further, right?
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: No.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: It'll be there Sunday at about 1250 right before kick.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Well, as soon as that popped up, I said, Finney just,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Finney put up the graphic, man.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Hey, we're trying to be more social as a show.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I want everyone to know that we picked the Panthers
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: to win.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Do you have to put it up at like 1157?
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Can you not do it at like eight in the
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: morning so we can all maybe just view it? You
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: put it up right as the game starts at like 1257.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Turd Ferguson says squirrel on the field, call XL and
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: he can finally get a catch in Charlotte.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. XL got spared today.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Um he and jimmy horn both had rough ones xl
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: dropping the wide receiver screen lets it get all the
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: way into his body for the seven zillion time and
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: then jimmy horn gets fooled by what they're calling a
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: banana punt apparently yeah in chicago we think it's their
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: version of our tornado uh punt or whatever um yeah
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: not good for those guys no wide receiver had a
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: catch other than coker and t-mat.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Celebrity text, Mac. You call that a squirrel? I call
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: that breakfast. Sincerely, Ashley Terline.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, damn.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I thought she was only into the squirrel gravy. I
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: didn't know she got down and ate the squirrel itself.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I guess it's part of the breakfast, I guess, though, right? Still,
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: you got to find the squirrel for the gravy. How
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: about this text we got?
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Texter says, I've been a Bryce doubter since drafting him
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: over Stroud. While I still believe Stroud will have a
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: more decorated career, I'm late to the game, but finally
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: comfortable with committing to Bryce. If he can continue to
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: put together performances like he did yesterday.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: The offense is in a good spot. Look at Bryce.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: He winning people over. Is he one bebop over bone?
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Check those texts.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: No.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: How about where bebop said, I blame Bryce Young.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, how's that possibly through for 361 and
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: three touchdowns? We scored 37 points. He says, because it's
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: his fault. They traded so much for him that they're
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: unable to fill the rest of the roster.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: It's like this dude.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because missing on guys like Trevor Wallace is not
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: an issue.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: This dude is a psychopath.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: This dude's either a psychopath or a complete fraudy pants fraudster.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: This fraud psychopath. This is a bit. Or he's a
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: fraudy fraudster psychopath.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: All right, we're out of here, man. We are out
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: of here. Appreciate everybody weighing in. We even found some
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: positive callers that are more psyched about the offense than
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: worried about the defense. That was a pleasant surprise. I'm
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: going to continue bitching about the defense until maybe tomorrow's show.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: All right, we're out of here, y'all. More on the Panthers.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: We got you locked in here. You want Panther conversational reaction,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: you got it all day on a Panther Monday on WFNZ.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Colin Hoggard, Charlotte Sports Today, coming up next.