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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch. Greb A Stolen next
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Speaker 1: to Greg Corumbus of Radio America and Jim Garritty of
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Speaker 1: National Review. Free Martini's Coming up.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the last call of the week for the
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Speaker 2: Three Martini Lunch. This is our weekly recap of the
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Speaker 2: biggest stories of the week. In this edition, the shocking
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Speaker 2: death of South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham and how we'll
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Speaker 2: remember him. Secretary of State Marco Rubio's excellent denunciation of communism,
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Speaker 2: and California Congressman Rocanna's pr stunt of supposedly being detained
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Speaker 2: in the Middle East. And in our chaser of the week,
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Speaker 2: is Congress about to make Daylight Saving time permanent? But
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Speaker 2: we begin with remembering Senator Graham and what comes next
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Speaker 2: in terms of replacing him in the US Senate. When
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Speaker 2: we discussed all this on Monday, we did not yet
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Speaker 2: know that Graham's sister, Darlene Graham Nordone, would be appointed
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Speaker 2: to finish his term. But of course Graham was also
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Speaker 2: up for re election, So the scramble is on now
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Speaker 2: for the next six years, Jim. Many people woke up
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Speaker 2: to this news Sunday morning. Others woke up to phone alerts,
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Speaker 2: including me in the middle of the night on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: If you had been told that we're going to get
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Speaker 2: news of the passing of a Republican senator, I think
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Speaker 2: most of us know what name we would have expected.
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Speaker 2: And we'll actually talk about how that looks to be
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Speaker 2: getting better a little bit later in today's podcast. But no, unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: it was the shocking news that South Carolina Center Lindsey
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Speaker 2: Graham had passed away suddenly at the age of seventy one.
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Speaker 2: We now know it was from an aortic dissection, and
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Speaker 2: based on the medical explanations that we're getting, and anytime
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Speaker 2: you have any a order problem and it's cracking, you're
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Speaker 2: in big trouble. And that's unfortunately what happened with Lindsay Graham.
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Speaker 2: And so obviously he was first of all scheduled to
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Speaker 2: be on Meet the Press and possibly other shows on
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Speaker 2: Sunday morning, but all the shows of scrambling to adjust
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Speaker 2: their content. President Trump making himself available by phone for
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Speaker 2: a number of shows, but certainly Meet the Press, and
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Speaker 2: of all just talking about how it was very shocking
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Speaker 2: for him to hear the news because he had just
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Speaker 2: talked to Lindsey Kram.
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Speaker 3: So what makes it even strangers that I got a
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Speaker 3: call last night sometime, you know, the early evening, maybe
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Speaker 3: in the sevens, and he called and he said, we're
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Speaker 3: all set for the Save America Act. He was pushing
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Speaker 3: the Save America Act like crazy. He got back, said
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Speaker 3: he just landed from Ukraine. I said, that's a long
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Speaker 3: trip to me, said, he sounded a little tired, but perfect.
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Speaker 3: But it's a little bit tired. I had a right
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Speaker 3: to be.
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Speaker 4: And he was a worker, he was really a worker.
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Speaker 4: But but he sounded great, actually, but he was he
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Speaker 4: was He actually said he was tired, but he wanted
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Speaker 4: to pass the Save America Act. And I said, well,
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Speaker 4: we're going to get it done, lindsay, we're going to
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Speaker 4: get it done.
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Speaker 3: I'll see you like soon. We thought we might even
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Speaker 3: meet today. And then that was it. And that was,
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Speaker 3: you know, very around the time. It couldn't have been
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Speaker 3: much longer. It could have been his last call. I
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Speaker 3: don't know exactly, but I got a message about one
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Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning from one of the people at
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Speaker 3: his office that he had passed away. I said, I
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Speaker 3: just can't believe it. He was like a member of
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Speaker 3: the family. To me, it's very tough. Actually, it's amazing.
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Speaker 2: It's one of the more somber times you'll ever hear
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Speaker 2: President Trump. And he also said to Kristen Walker right
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Speaker 2: after that, what a skilled politician Lindsey Graham was.
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Speaker 3: He was such an advocate. He was, you know, if
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Speaker 3: he wanted to get something, and you know, he had
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Speaker 3: a unique ability. He was able to deal with Democrats
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Speaker 3: and report if I had a problem, a real problem,
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't often ask, but if I had a problem
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Speaker 3: with a Democrat, he could work it out. He was
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Speaker 3: a great He was a great politician.
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Speaker 2: Actually, and so Jim, we'll get to what happens with
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Speaker 2: his seat a little bit later in this first Martine,
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Speaker 2: he just wanted to time to talk about what we
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Speaker 2: saw on what we're thinking, what we're observing. But one
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Speaker 2: more clip before we get there. For most people, the
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Speaker 2: absolute pinnacle of Lindsey Graham's time in more than thirty
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Speaker 2: years on Capitol Hill was this moment during the second
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Speaker 2: round of Brett Kavanaugh hearings, when Christine blazey Ford had
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Speaker 2: come in and the Republicans, throughout her testimony had let
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Speaker 2: the woman criminal investigator ask all the questions, and then
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Speaker 2: the first two senators, Grassley and Hatch, let that happen again.
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Speaker 2: When Brett Kavanaugh came in to testify, Lindsey Graham was
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Speaker 2: having none of that. He wanted the Democrats to get
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Speaker 2: both barrels.
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Speaker 5: If you wanted an FBI investigation, you could have come
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Speaker 5: to us. What you want to do is destroy this
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Speaker 5: guy's life. Hold this seat open and hope you went
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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 1: You've said that, not me.
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Speaker 5: You've got nothing to apologize for. When you see soda
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Speaker 5: Maron Kagan, tell him that Lindsay said, Oh, because I
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Speaker 5: voted for them, I would never do to them what
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Speaker 5: you've done to this guy. This is the most unethical
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Speaker 5: sham since I've been in politics. And if you really
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Speaker 5: wanted to know the truth, you sure as hell wouldn't
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Speaker 5: have done what you you've done to this guy.
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Speaker 6: Are you a gang rapist?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 5: I cannot imagine what you and your family have gone through. Boy,
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Speaker 5: y'all want power.
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Speaker 1: God, I hope you never get it.
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Speaker 5: I hope the American people can see through this sham
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Speaker 5: that you knew about it and you held it. You
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Speaker 5: had no intention of protecting doctor Ford none. She's as
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Speaker 5: much of a victim as you are.
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Speaker 7: God.
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Speaker 5: I hate to say it because these had been my friends,
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Speaker 5: but let me tell you, when it comes to this,
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Speaker 5: you're looking for a fair process. You came to the
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Speaker 5: wrong town at the wrong time.
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Speaker 2: My friend Jim, Lindsay Graham is a little bit of
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Speaker 2: a lightning rit even on the right. Some people didn't
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Speaker 2: like his positions on immigration. He earned the nickname Lindsay
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Speaker 2: grahamnest to other people. Obviously debated pretty fiercely about his
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Speaker 2: thoughts on how much intervention we should do in the world.
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Speaker 2: But first of all, I know we've laid out a
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Speaker 2: lot here, but your thoughts on the shocking news and
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Speaker 2: what you remember about his time in DC.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, first of all, I think you set it
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Speaker 6: up very well that we will talk a bit more
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Speaker 6: about Mitch McConnell in this podcast later. But like I
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Speaker 6: think we're all bracing ourselves when a you know, octagenarian
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Speaker 6: senator has been in the hospital for several weeks, haven't
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Speaker 6: heard much from you, kind of prepare yourself to hear
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Speaker 6: the worst. No one is expecting this from Lindsey Graham
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Speaker 6: at seventy one, Like that's young by us Senate standards.
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Speaker 6: That's young by you know, politician standards, and even I
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Speaker 6: was thinking, you know, even deep into his senate career,
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Speaker 6: he always had this boyish energy. He always had this
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Speaker 6: you know, he seemed much younger than he was. I
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Speaker 6: should probably also should note that the as you said,
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Speaker 6: a aortic rupture, was it aortic.
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Speaker 2: Sexually official term?
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Look, you know, it's very understandable that when an
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Speaker 6: outspoken critic of the Russian regime dies suddenly and unexpectedly.
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Speaker 6: I don't begrudge anyone having suspicions. It sounds like the
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Speaker 6: initial autopsy results do not point in the direction of
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Speaker 6: any sort of foul play. Thinking back to what you
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Speaker 6: just watched about the Kavanaugh hearings, I think it's a
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Speaker 6: very effective demonstration of the power of the effective use
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Speaker 6: of anger in politics. And what made that so powerful
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Speaker 6: is that that wasn't Lindsay Graham's default setting. It was
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Speaker 6: usually jovial and amiable, and he meant it when he
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Speaker 6: said that he had friends on the other side of
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Speaker 6: the aisle, and he generally you know, Today's Morning jolt.
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Speaker 6: I tried to collect a wide range of tributes to him,
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Speaker 6: and not just from Republicans. You know, Amy Globuchark wrote
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Speaker 6: something that was really surprisingly personal about how much you
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Speaker 6: appreciate and enjoyed traveling with them, and how he you know,
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Speaker 6: he apparently described it periodically they go on these codels
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Speaker 6: and he's just going to give this little glint smile
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Speaker 6: in his eye of like, can you believe we get
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Speaker 6: to do this? You know this, he enjoyed his job,
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Speaker 6: He enjoyed representing the United States. He enjoyed the work
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Speaker 6: of being a senator. My former colleague Jay Nordlinger and
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Speaker 6: my current colleague Michael Brendan Dougherty do not see the
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Speaker 6: world very similarly at all. Both wrote these genuine tributes
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Speaker 6: to Lindsey Graham and the notion it was really infesting
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Speaker 6: to see the number of people who disagreed with Lindsay Graham,
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Speaker 6: including let's remember President Trump, who gave out his own
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Speaker 6: his personal self phone number during a rally. Graham does
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Speaker 6: this very funny video of him smashing his cell phone
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Speaker 6: because everybody's calling it. But you saw in Trump's voice.
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Speaker 6: Trump is not a guy who, as you said, usually
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Speaker 6: sounds somber or grief stricken, but he really sounded as
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Speaker 6: saddened as I think we've heard him in this and
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Speaker 6: it was one of today's Morning jolt I go through.
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Speaker 6: There were a lot of ways that Lindsey Graham was
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Speaker 6: easy to mock. You know, he used to be seen
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Speaker 6: as McCain's sidekick, and then it became seen as Trump's sidekick.
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Speaker 6: But Trump kind of alluded to that in a conversation
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Speaker 6: that when he needed an ambassador to the rest of
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Speaker 6: the Senate caucus when there was a disagreement, Lindsey Graham
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Speaker 6: found a way to make himself indispensable. And for a
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Speaker 6: guy who is supposedly this relic of a bygone era,
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Speaker 6: particularly in his forms of his his vision of US
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Speaker 6: foreign policy and national security, won a whole lot of fights.
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Speaker 6: You know, we are bombing Iran right now, we have
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Speaker 6: Maduro in custody, we have you know, we have continued
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Speaker 6: to sell arms to the Europeans, who they turn over
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Speaker 6: to the Ukrainians. Like Lindsey Graham won a lot of fights,
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Speaker 6: not just you know, in foreign policy, but in judicial fights.
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Speaker 6: He was a staunch pro lifer. He really won a
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Speaker 6: lot more fights than he lost. And for this guy
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Speaker 6: who was supposedly, ah, you know, he's a yes man
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Speaker 6: and boy, he sure got a lot of what he
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Speaker 6: wanted done, didn't he. And it's just kind of this
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Speaker 6: recognition that I think the conventional wisdom in Washington it
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Speaker 6: always praises the show horses more than the workhorses. It
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Speaker 6: does not reward the behind the scenes relationship building that
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Speaker 6: often is key to getting cajoling someone to support something
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Speaker 6: they don't want to support. He loved being a senator.
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Speaker 6: He was good at it. He understood the job in
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Speaker 6: a way that I think a lot of other senators
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Speaker 6: did not. And he's not a man who's going to
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Speaker 6: be easily replaced. We'll talk a bit about who's you know,
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Speaker 6: someone's going to represent the south state of South Carolina,
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Speaker 6: and I'll just add one last point of like you know,
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Speaker 6: as listeners know, my parents live in South Carolina. We
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Speaker 6: go down to visit probably twice a year, almost every year,
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Speaker 6: and I often would be down around primary season, and
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Speaker 6: it was very easy to find first tea party types,
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Speaker 6: then maga types, So like ah Lindsay Graham is a squish,
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Speaker 6: he's a sellout, He's.
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Speaker 3: Not, you know.
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Speaker 6: And first of all, most years like four or five
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Speaker 6: ran against him, which already made it tougher you know
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Speaker 6: when you're splitting the anti Graham vote, But the anti
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Speaker 6: Graham vote in a good year would be like forty
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Speaker 6: percent of a Republican primary, and that generally there was
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Speaker 6: always a majority of Republicans like, nope, nope, Lindsay's doing
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Speaker 6: a good job. Let's keep him right where he is.
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Speaker 6: And then of course at South Carolina he would cruise
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Speaker 6: to victory in the general election. So for a guy
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Speaker 6: who was often criticized and mocked and all that kind
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Speaker 6: of stuff, he sure turned out to be pretty darn
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Speaker 6: effective at his job. And I think he's going to
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Speaker 6: be deeply missed, not just by his constituents, by the President,
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Speaker 6: by like a whole bunch of people across the US
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Speaker 6: political spectrum.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned two things that I think are worth emphasizing.
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Speaker 2: Number one, his pro life stands. He obviously got most
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Speaker 2: of his attention for his thoughts on on foreign policy,
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Speaker 2: but he was the lead sponsor in the Senate of
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Speaker 2: the Born and Live Infant Protection Act, basically protecting or
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Speaker 2: trying to protect unborn life at twenty weeks and older.
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Speaker 2: As the pro life movement try to get incrementally younger
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Speaker 2: and younger into the pregnancy period. And then also, you know,
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Speaker 2: even if people don't love your votes on everything, you
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Speaker 2: know what makes up for that constituent service. And I
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Speaker 2: think given his boundless energy on policy, my guess is
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Speaker 2: that he was pretty good at that too. And so
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Speaker 2: what happens next, well, it's kind of a two track thing.
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Speaker 2: First of all, Governor Henry McMaster of South Carolina will
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Speaker 2: appoint someone to fill out the rest of this term
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Speaker 2: for Lindsey Graham. But Graham was also of course renominated
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Speaker 2: for a fifth term in the US Senate, and now
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Speaker 2: they need a new nominee. There will be about a
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Speaker 2: week's worth of people being able to get into the race,
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Speaker 2: and then a special primer will be held August eleventh.
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Speaker 2: If nobody gets to fifty percent, they'll be a runoff
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Speaker 2: on August twenty fifth, and there will probably be a
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Speaker 2: runoff because, Jim, if you are roughly sixty years old
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Speaker 2: or younger in South Carolina, you've had a grand total
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Speaker 2: of five senators in your entire life, including both seats.
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Speaker 2: You had strom Thurman from the fifties up to Lindsay Graham,
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Speaker 2: so that's two. Then you had Fritz Haulings from the
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Speaker 2: mid sixties up to Jim Demnt, who resigned, and then NICKI.
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Speaker 2: Haley appointed Tim Scott, who's been there ever since. So
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Speaker 2: these opportunities don't come around very often. I'm sure plenty
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Speaker 2: of Democrats will get in, the question, though, with so
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Speaker 2: many other Republicans already running for their offices, is who
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Speaker 2: will likely get in. One person who wants in but
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Speaker 2: definitely shouldn't get in is Nancy Mace, who decided to
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Speaker 2: pull a Godfather pun yesterday by saying, oh, just as
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Speaker 2: I'm getting out, they pulled me back in, and everybody
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Speaker 2: is thankfully dumping on her. And so hopefully she's nowhere
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Speaker 2: near Henry McMaster's shortlist or the voters shortlist.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, my first question is who's they? Yes, who are
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Speaker 6: these other people? Nancy Mace, by the way, was one
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Speaker 6: of those Republican challengers against Lindsey Graham a couple of
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Speaker 6: cycles ago before she was elected to the US House.
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Speaker 6: And the other thing that she just came in fifth
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Speaker 6: and a five way primary for governor. There's no one
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Speaker 6: clamoring to see Nancy Mace in another office. For the
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Speaker 6: appointment position. I did see Senator Tim Scott recommending Trey Goudy,
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Speaker 6: the former congressman of turned Fox News host certainly strikes
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Speaker 6: me as a fine choice. We will see what McMaster does. Again,
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Speaker 6: this is just until I believe January third is when
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Speaker 6: the term runs out. Voters of South Carolina should have
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Speaker 6: their say in who the Republican nominee ought to be.
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Speaker 6: As you mentioned, there's probably a lot of long frustrated
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Speaker 6: senatorial ambitions floating around in that state, so we'll see
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Speaker 6: who they end up going with. But again, South Carolina
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Speaker 6: being what it is, you know, it is a near
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Speaker 6: certainty that whoever gets that nomination will win in November
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Speaker 6: and they'll continue to be represented by a Republican in
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Speaker 6: that state.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my friend John Guzzee, noting that the last poll
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Speaker 2: of Lindsey Graham against Andrews, the Democratic nominee, it was
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Speaker 2: only three points, I'm like, yeah, we've seen that before. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Jamie Harrison was supposed to be the next Dinner from
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Speaker 2: South Carolina too, and that didn't quite pan out. So
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Speaker 2: we will see. So, by the way, Maine, you could
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Speaker 2: have a law that actually provides for an unfortunate situation
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Speaker 2: like this instead of scrambling to hold some sort of
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Speaker 2: backroom deal later in the month to pick a new
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Speaker 2: nominee when circumstances require that. But anyway, in South Carolina
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Speaker 2: there is going to be a man scramble.
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Speaker 6: Great, I hadn't thought about that, but that is going
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Speaker 6: to make that contrast with Maine even more glaring. The
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Speaker 6: sense like, well, at South Carolina, these things happened, we
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Speaker 6: appoint somebody, we have this process to pick a nominee
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Speaker 6: really quickly, and the state of Maine is like, nope,
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Speaker 6: gotta left it up to the party. Good luck everybody.
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Speaker 2: Well, the process in Maine is a mess. The candidates
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Speaker 2: in Maine certainly have been a mess, many of them.
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15:56
Speaker 2: State Marco Rubio's excellent denunciation of Marxism and it's many
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Speaker 2: slight variations was very timely this week. As we discussed
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Speaker 2: on Friday, Marco Rubio has always been very good about
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Speaker 2: talking about the evils of communism. As the son of
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Speaker 2: Cuban refugees, he certainly knows what it's like there, has
16:16
Speaker 2: certainly heard from his family members what it's like to
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Speaker 2: grow up in that repressive society, and I think he's
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Speaker 2: stayed very much true to his upbringing. But yesterday, talking
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Speaker 2: about leftism, Marxism, socialism, communism, whatever label you want to
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Speaker 2: give it, he talked about the evils that it brings,
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Speaker 2: and it always brings the same thing. Two longer clips here,
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Speaker 2: starting with this one.
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Speaker 1: This is a distinctive and unique evil.
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Speaker 8: It has always been driven by a hatred above all else,
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Speaker 8: a hatred for civilization itself. It is a revolt of
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Speaker 8: the worst against the best, a revolt of the weak
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Speaker 8: and the cowardly against the strong and the good. It
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Speaker 8: is perpetrated by those who cannot build, who who cannot create,
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Speaker 8: who cannot achieve great things, and take their revenge upon
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Speaker 8: the world for their own inadequacy by seeking to destroy
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Speaker 8: those who can.
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Speaker 1: This is what radical leftism is.
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Speaker 8: It may wear various different slogans and ideologies across place
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Speaker 8: and time. They can call themselves anti capitalists or anti imperialists,
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Speaker 8: or communists or anarchists or Marxists, but the fundamental character
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Speaker 8: is always the same.
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Speaker 1: It's always the same.
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Speaker 8: It is a poisonous resentment cloaked in the language of
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Speaker 8: equality and justice and liberation and overwhelming need to tear
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Speaker 8: down what greater men have built to wreck what is
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Speaker 8: beautiful and what is right on behalf of people who
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Speaker 8: are only filled with ugliness and have nothing else to
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Speaker 8: offer the world. Through violence and through terror, they once
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Speaker 8: again seek to impose their ugliness.
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Speaker 1: The old dogma was wrong. The old dogma was wrong.
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Speaker 1: None of this is.
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Speaker 8: Driven by idealism. It is not utopian. In fact, it
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Speaker 8: is the opposite. One of the criticisms you sometimes hear
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Speaker 8: of communism, for example, is that it sounds good in theory,
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Speaker 8: but it never works in practice. That's actually not true.
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Speaker 8: Communism does not sound good in theory. The world that
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Speaker 8: envisions for all of us is small, flat, gray, leveled
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Speaker 8: of all exception, drained of all that is good and
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Speaker 8: noble in the human soul. The world that envisions is
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Speaker 8: a world without courage, a world without creativity or ambition,
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Speaker 8: a world without heroes or glory or great causes to
18:39
Speaker 8: strive towards, without a world without miracles, without myths, without
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Speaker 8: men who rise above the rest to do incredible and
18:47
Speaker 8: extraordinary things. And the world communism and visions is a
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Speaker 8: world without God.
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Speaker 2: So Jimmy said it so well. I'm not sure how
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Speaker 2: much is left for us to say. But when we
18:56
Speaker 2: see the left embracing further and further and further left,
19:01
Speaker 2: and they dress it up in ways that's about affordability
19:04
Speaker 2: and rising, you know that the people who are downtrodden
19:07
Speaker 2: and so forth, Marc Riubio cutting right to the chase
19:10
Speaker 2: is very helpful.
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Speaker 6: Greg. I try not to say this lightly because the
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Speaker 6: term gets thrown around way too common in our modern politics,
19:16
Speaker 6: particularly for those of a certain age like.
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Speaker 4: You and me.
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Speaker 6: These were the most Reaganesque comments I've heard from an
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Speaker 6: elected official in a long long time. And you can
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Speaker 6: write up a reagan Esque speech. You can get Peggy
19:28
Speaker 6: Unon or my late former mentor Tony Dolan. You can
19:32
Speaker 6: get the old speech writers. You can get the right words.
19:35
Speaker 6: You can practice that, you can put it onto the teleprompter,
19:38
Speaker 6: you can practice the delivery, and a lot of politicians
19:41
Speaker 6: try to do it, and it never quite sounds right,
19:44
Speaker 6: It never quite sounds natural. You think back to all
19:47
Speaker 6: of Reagan's greatest speeches, there was a there's some fascinating
19:50
Speaker 6: combination of obviously, you know, sincerity, but also a sense
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Speaker 6: of conversationalness that on the one hand, spoke about grand
20:00
Speaker 6: and important, big ideas but you never felt like he
20:04
Speaker 6: was coming down from a mountain with two stone tablets,
20:06
Speaker 6: that there was something you could eat. You could hear
20:08
Speaker 6: the exact same words coming from a neighbor across the
20:11
Speaker 6: back fence. There was just kind of this great relatability
20:14
Speaker 6: to it. So you look at Rubio and it's I'm
20:17
Speaker 6: kind of struck. This is the same guy who sounded
20:19
Speaker 6: like the malfunctioning robot on the debate stage in New
20:22
Speaker 6: Hampshire in twenty sixteen, and the one had a lot
20:26
Speaker 6: of time has passed. Rubio was always a good speaker. Look,
20:29
Speaker 6: there's a lot of people who think Marco Ruby is
20:31
Speaker 6: going to run for president in twenty twenty eight. He
20:32
Speaker 6: keeps saying he's not interested if Jdevance wants to run.
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Speaker 6: JD evans. Clearly at this point it certainly looks like
20:38
Speaker 6: JD Evance wants to run. He appeared on Joe Rogan
20:41
Speaker 6: earlier this week. Rubio is an absolute master when it
20:45
Speaker 6: comes to public speaking, and you look at that stuff
20:47
Speaker 6: and you're like, wow, exactly what the country needs. I'm
20:50
Speaker 6: gonna have one minute quibble with what he said in
20:53
Speaker 6: that section. He said that communism and these leftist ideologies
20:57
Speaker 6: represent the week taking on the strong, and I actually
21:01
Speaker 6: don't think that's the case. If you look at the
21:03
Speaker 6: way these movements go. They might be weak at start,
21:06
Speaker 6: but if they all amount to wanting to grab the
21:09
Speaker 6: power of the state and then using the power of
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Speaker 6: the state to take what they want and punish those
21:14
Speaker 6: who disagree, so really it's a philosophy of a bully.
21:17
Speaker 6: It's not a philosophy. Yeah, I see where he's going
21:20
Speaker 6: with that. This is some sort of sense of like,
21:22
Speaker 6: these are people who cannot accomplish in life what they
21:25
Speaker 6: want and want to use the power of the state
21:27
Speaker 6: to take what they want. But in the end, it
21:29
Speaker 6: is not like they're not weak, they're bullies. They are
21:32
Speaker 6: people who like hurting people, They like exerting their power,
21:35
Speaker 6: they like exerting dominance over others. So one minute, quibble
21:39
Speaker 6: on that word choice, but otherwise, just a great speech.
21:42
Speaker 6: And I don't think there's any harm when the Democratic
21:46
Speaker 6: Socialists of America are the most loudest and growing and
21:50
Speaker 6: burgeoning movement within the modern Democratic Party. I don't think
21:53
Speaker 6: there's any harm in tying the difference the leftists overseas
21:58
Speaker 6: and leftists at home and pointing out that it is
22:02
Speaker 6: still illegal to immigrate to the United States if you
22:04
Speaker 6: are a member of a communist party. Why would we
22:07
Speaker 6: want native born communists in US elected office?
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Speaker 2: Not Jim, I think you said it well, and I
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Speaker 2: think your point is well taken as well, and so
22:15
Speaker 2: Ribio saying it well, and I think it's important that
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Speaker 2: the American people hear that as often as possible heading
22:22
Speaker 2: into this election season. I think the Democrats are finally
22:24
Speaker 2: spooked by the Socialists because of what happened with Platner.
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Speaker 2: But that was more electoral politics, I think, than what
22:30
Speaker 2: they actually want to accomplish. So we'll see what happens
22:33
Speaker 2: in Michigan and beyond, like we were talking about yesterday.
22:35
Speaker 2: So let let the warning go out. And Rubio said
22:39
Speaker 2: it about as well as could be. Sad, all right, Well,
22:42
Speaker 2: another thing that happens when the Communists come in is
22:46
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22:49
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Speaker 2: It's been a busy week, but we should not let
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Speaker 2: it end without revisiting the ridiculous public relations stunt by
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Speaker 2: California Democratic Congressman Rocanna as he wailed and moaned about
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Speaker 2: his supposed detention in the Middle East last weekend. All right, Jim,
24:17
Speaker 2: shifting topics a little bit, but staying with a member
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Speaker 2: of Congress here, and that's California Congressman Rocanna, fresh off
24:24
Speaker 2: utterly humiliating himself by standing by Graham Platner when there
24:27
Speaker 2: were ample opportunities to cut the bait. But he stayed
24:30
Speaker 2: with them all the way until everybody bailed on Platiner
24:33
Speaker 2: after the Politico story. But Rocana's not done humiliating himself.
24:36
Speaker 2: He decided it was time to pull a stunt over
24:38
Speaker 2: in the West Bank. So that's what he did over
24:40
Speaker 2: the weekend, basically making sure that he had at least
24:43
Speaker 2: an encounter with the IDF. Here's his explanation of what
24:48
Speaker 2: happened as they tried to get to a spot there
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Speaker 2: in the West Bank.
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Speaker 7: I'm certainly that probably the first American politician has been
24:54
Speaker 7: detained by the IDF and Israeli settlers. I mean, we
25:00
Speaker 7: were at a village that Israeli settlers had destroyed. They
25:06
Speaker 7: had destroyed the school, they had destroyed that village, and
25:09
Speaker 7: we were just looking at it and these hoodlums come
25:12
Speaker 7: in with machine guns and M four, an American made
25:15
Speaker 7: machine gun, and they detain us. They block off the road,
25:19
Speaker 7: and then they call the IDF, and the IDF is
25:21
Speaker 7: on their side, not on the side of the Americans.
25:24
Speaker 7: Being in the West Bank and in Israel is the
25:27
Speaker 7: first time that I have really been acutely aware of
25:32
Speaker 7: being brown. I feel like people have seen me first
25:36
Speaker 7: as brown, second as an American congressman, and third as
25:41
Speaker 7: an American citizen. I saw the arrogance in the eyes
25:44
Speaker 7: of those settlers, twenty one and twenty two year olds
25:47
Speaker 7: with guns, laughing that they had detained us, The arrogance
25:52
Speaker 7: of those young IDF soldiers that my tax dollars are funding,
25:56
Speaker 7: having no respect for the fact that they were detaining Americans,
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Speaker 7: no respect that there was an American congress person in
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Speaker 7: that bus, and laughing when our translator told them that
26:08
Speaker 7: there are Americans there in the American embassy.
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Speaker 2: Is concerned, light up, Francis okay, playing the race card,
26:14
Speaker 2: of course, Jim. As other people have explained who know
26:17
Speaker 2: this way better than me. There are certain places, because
26:20
Speaker 2: Israelis don't like terrorist attacks in their country. If you
26:23
Speaker 2: want to go to certain places in the West Bank,
26:25
Speaker 2: there's going to be checkpoints. The IDF didn't come in
26:27
Speaker 2: and like handcuff them and put them in a lock
26:31
Speaker 2: up or anything. They simply came up to the bus
26:33
Speaker 2: and you know, had a discussion and everything was fine.
26:37
Speaker 2: A little bit of a drama queen act here by Rocana,
26:39
Speaker 2: which is exactly what he wanted.
26:41
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, even Gretethnberg is like, oh, come on.
26:46
Speaker 6: The detail that really got me was when Rocanna said
26:48
Speaker 6: that the settlers yelled this is Maga country and had
26:52
Speaker 6: you know, detained Juicy simolet next to him, a Frenchman,
26:56
Speaker 6: I believe. So. The other detail that I like in
26:59
Speaker 6: this where he says this is the first time in
27:00
Speaker 6: his life he felt so aware of being brown. I
27:03
Speaker 6: will interpret that to me that at no point in
27:04
Speaker 6: this life in the United States of America do you
27:06
Speaker 6: feel like a minority or a pressor or anything like that.
27:08
Speaker 6: So good for you, ro Conna. I'm glad that you
27:10
Speaker 6: appreciate that you're willing to say that like this is
27:12
Speaker 6: the first time in your life it's happened. Finally, if
27:16
Speaker 6: you're smiling when you use the word detained, I'm going
27:19
Speaker 6: to go out and the Lim and say, it was
27:21
Speaker 6: not that hard experience for you. It was really not
27:23
Speaker 6: that bad, and you are absolutely delighted that now you've
27:26
Speaker 6: got your story about how terrible the IDF is, about
27:29
Speaker 6: how terrible the Israeli settlers are. It couldn't possibly be
27:33
Speaker 6: that you walked into a place where it says do
27:35
Speaker 6: not enter, you know, or something like that. I was
27:37
Speaker 6: just taking an innocent walk through Fort Knox. And then
27:40
Speaker 6: these thugs from the government tried to express me whenever
27:44
Speaker 6: somebody goes abroad and their interaction with a government that
27:47
Speaker 6: they have denounced six ways to Sunday, every seven days
27:50
Speaker 6: the week, twice on Sundays, they have exactly the kind
27:53
Speaker 6: of encounter that they would describe if they, you know,
27:56
Speaker 6: in the perfect Your Spidey sense should start to tingle
27:58
Speaker 6: that all seems a little too perfect, a little too contrived.
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Speaker 6: Oh yes, this happens to come after Rocan. It was
28:04
Speaker 6: not just like your garden variety Democratic congressman supporting Graham Platter.
28:07
Speaker 6: He was arguably the guy who was most enthusiastic after
28:10
Speaker 6: the initial accusations about physical abuse. In the New York
28:13
Speaker 6: Times article from Lindsay Fifeld, Rocanna went out to do
28:17
Speaker 6: a fundraiser for him. Right, nobody staked more on Graham
28:21
Speaker 6: Plattner than Rocana, and he desperately needs people to think
28:24
Speaker 6: very differently. Finally, he said, it's apparently one of his
28:27
Speaker 6: exposts or something like that. He said, look, warning to Israel,
28:30
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Speaker 2: Congress on the verge of ending the need to change
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Speaker 2: our clocks in the very worst way possible. All right, Jim.
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Speaker 2: This week the House attaching to a must pass defense
30:04
Speaker 2: bill adding permanent daylight saving time. They want to make
30:09
Speaker 2: sure we don't switch the clocks ever again. So what
30:12
Speaker 2: it is right now, we would not flip back in
30:15
Speaker 2: the fall and so forth, and so people with small kids,
30:18
Speaker 2: people with pets, people who just don't like having to
30:20
Speaker 2: adjust to the time change, that's what they want to do. Now.
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Speaker 2: This is I think a bad idea for a number
30:25
Speaker 2: of reasons. Number one, during the energy crisis of the
30:28
Speaker 2: mid seventies, we tried permanent daylight saving time and everybody
30:31
Speaker 2: hated it, and they went back a few months later,
30:34
Speaker 2: because if you don't switch the clocks in the fall,
30:36
Speaker 2: your sunrises in the winter become very very late. In
30:39
Speaker 2: some places it would be after nine am. And also
30:42
Speaker 2: there are states that do have the same time year round,
30:45
Speaker 2: and they stay on standard time. So I'm not sure
30:47
Speaker 2: why everybody's insistent I'm banging their heads against the wall here,
30:49
Speaker 2: But what do you make of it?
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Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I would love to hear. First
30:54
Speaker 6: of all, do I get annoyed by spring forward? Yes?
30:57
Speaker 6: Do I love that extra hours of sleep during fall back?
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Speaker 3: Yes?
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Speaker 6: I love that too. So you know the end, it
31:01
Speaker 6: all balances out. You know, I've heard you know, in
31:04
Speaker 6: a couple of months we'll be doing the old It
31:06
Speaker 6: was a very good joke for you know, doing the
31:08
Speaker 6: Simon and Garfunkl song. Hello darkness, mile friend, what are
31:14
Speaker 6: you doing here? It's four pm? You know, like, we
31:16
Speaker 6: don't like it when the sun goes down really really early,
31:18
Speaker 6: all of a sudden in the fall. But at the
31:21
Speaker 6: same time, if you do that, if you don't do this.
31:23
Speaker 6: As you said, kids are going to the school bus
31:25
Speaker 6: and it's still dark out, like they try. If somebody's
31:28
Speaker 6: things are different now, if there's a reason we're going
31:30
Speaker 6: to get a different result than we did back in
31:31
Speaker 6: the nineteen seventies, I'm open to that argument, but I
31:35
Speaker 6: don't really think. I don't think anything's going to be
31:37
Speaker 6: any different. I was thinking back to the day, like
31:40
Speaker 6: there was this argument for a long time that you
31:42
Speaker 6: legalize prostitution, problems with sex trafficking, child sex trafficking and
31:47
Speaker 6: abusive pimps and all this kind of stuff that'll go away.
31:50
Speaker 6: You legalize it, you clean it up, everything's good. Wouldn't
31:53
Speaker 6: that be better? Well, I don't love that idea, but
31:55
Speaker 6: I was willing to be open to the idea. A
31:56
Speaker 6: bunch of European countries did it. Unfortunately, sex t afficking,
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Speaker 6: sex abuse and all that stuff did increase. The use
32:02
Speaker 6: of the organized crime did not go away. And what
32:05
Speaker 6: it was was once you legalize prostitution, surprise surprise, demand
32:08
Speaker 6: went up. Demand went up. All kinds of bad people
32:11
Speaker 6: came in to fill the vacuum of that demand. I'm
32:14
Speaker 6: open to you know, it's one of those things. If
32:16
Speaker 6: there are a whole bunch of ideas in life that
32:18
Speaker 6: we think should work, and then we put them into
32:21
Speaker 6: practice and they don't work. I have a sneaking suspicion
32:24
Speaker 6: that when we do this change, we're going to go
32:26
Speaker 6: through the nineteen seventies all over again. You're probably gonna
32:28
Speaker 6: have people having bad accidents because they're driving in the
32:32
Speaker 6: dark in the morning and it's not as bright as
32:33
Speaker 6: they're used to, or God forbid, some issues with school
32:35
Speaker 6: buses kids walk from school. It's probably not going to
32:38
Speaker 6: work out very well. I guess I'm willing to try
32:40
Speaker 6: it again, but I don't expect things to change any differently.
32:43
Speaker 6: And this, also, by the way, comes across as a
32:45
Speaker 6: government that is like, oh, we're not very popular right now, quick,
32:48
Speaker 6: let's make this change. And by the way, also, if
32:51
Speaker 6: you're going to do this, do it in the spring.
32:52
Speaker 6: Don't anoun right. We all like the fall back part.
32:55
Speaker 6: We'll like that extra hour to sleep.
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