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ITB: Updated Eagles Offensive Depth Chart Evaluation · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on everybody? Jeff Mosher,
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Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan, And we're gonna talk a little Eagles because
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Speaker 1: it's been It was a very big weekend in sports,
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Speaker 1: just not NFL wise, Adam. I mean, you had Opening Day,
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Speaker 1: Phillies home opener and all that, you had the NCAA
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Speaker 1: tournament going on, But we can't forget that. We got
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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft right around the corner, and we're like,
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Speaker 1: at this point, knee deep in free agency. As we've
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Speaker 1: said a lot, there's not a ton of game changing
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Speaker 1: free agents left during that you know, one year, proven
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Speaker 1: deal bargain basement, which we expect the Eagles will still
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Speaker 1: continue to be active in. But thought this would be
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Speaker 1: a good time right now to look at where the
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Speaker 1: Eagles are at from a depth chart perspective, and this
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Speaker 1: will help us. We'll do a two part podcast series.
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Speaker 1: This will help us kind of put the additions into
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Speaker 1: perspective where they fall in the chart. But then also, Adam,
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Speaker 1: and this is a big thing. It's gonna help us
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Speaker 1: realize where they're deep, where they're not, and where there
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Speaker 1: are moves still need that need to be made.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when we do this particular show.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes I look at a little like you learn something
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Speaker 3: and go, Okay, you know what I forgot?
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Speaker 2: This guy could play this position.
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Speaker 3: So maybe they don't have to address it in free
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Speaker 3: agency because the draft is always about the future.
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Speaker 2: Right, But yeah, they look these they they've.
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Speaker 3: Signed ten unrestricted free agents to one year deals who
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Speaker 3: were not Eagles previously, and this has been them really
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Speaker 3: the last three years, particularly the last two. We obviously
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Speaker 3: Saquon deal was a massive one a few years ago,
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Speaker 3: but it's this is just this is just.
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Speaker 2: What they're doing now.
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Speaker 3: They're kind of how he's he actually said this very
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Speaker 3: clearly and best he's probably said it.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna build through the draft.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna sporadically get involved in free agency, and that
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Speaker 3: was it used to be the opposite man, to be
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Speaker 3: honest with twenty twenty ten, and once he got control,
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Speaker 3: he wasn't.
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Speaker 2: It was kind of mix and matching.
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Speaker 3: He's very good at free agency, we know that, but
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Speaker 3: he's got to do better with these one year deals.
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Speaker 2: They got to get more out.
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Speaker 3: Of them, for sure, production and it would be nice
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Speaker 3: if they would like resign one of these guys.
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Speaker 1: Great point, who's other than Zach Bond, who was sort
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Speaker 1: of an accidental overnight amazing story. I'm trying to think
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Speaker 1: of a one year guy, because we call those prove
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Speaker 1: it deals. Who's a one year prove it deal guy
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Speaker 1: that actually proved it and hung around over the last
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Speaker 1: few years. Most of them have been on defense, right.
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Speaker 1: You think of Mike Mackai Becton proved it, but they
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Speaker 1: didn't resign him. Yes, I'm trying to think here. You know,
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Speaker 1: none of the wide receivers. We're gonna talk about this
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Speaker 1: when we get to wide receiver. They've really struggled on
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Speaker 1: the veteran wide receiver market. They've had, you know, guys
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Speaker 1: try to come and revive their careers over the last
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Speaker 1: few years. Hasn't worked. Trying to think, Yeah, I guess,
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Speaker 1: I guess if you want to count the addition, Well,
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Speaker 1: this is weird of CJ. Gardner Johnson who was a
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Speaker 1: trade but was on the last year of his deal.
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Speaker 1: He didn't get for whatever reason he and the Saints
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Speaker 1: weren't and you know, we talked about that. He did
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Speaker 1: prove it, but the Eagles didn't resign him. He wound
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Speaker 1: up going to Detroit. Then he got hurt and the yeah,
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Speaker 1: they did.
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Speaker 2: They did get together Brad Burr, Yeah, yeah, he did.
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Speaker 2: Isaiah Rodgers did.
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Speaker 3: That was a real good one and nobody knew what
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Speaker 3: to expect because he They didn't resign him suspended. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: they they They actually tried, but Minnesota gave him a
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Speaker 3: second year with some guaranteed money. But not They're not
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Speaker 3: a lot of them that that have worked out.
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Speaker 2: I look at two years ago.
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Speaker 3: Just during their Super Bowl run, c j Uzama didn't
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Speaker 3: work out. They tried, The Gates was on the roster,
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Speaker 3: he didn't have to play Paris Campbell. You know, you
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Speaker 3: know it worked out and he's back again. Fred Johnson,
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Speaker 3: to be honest with you, I remember when we talked
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Speaker 3: about this a couple of years ago. Well, he's sort
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Speaker 3: of a young journeyman. It hasn't worked out. And then
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Speaker 3: Stout in This is something we talked about. When Stout
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Speaker 3: decides to step away, we'll wait a little bit. We'll
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Speaker 3: learn more about Chris Cooper as you go along. But
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Speaker 3: that's just something like that you mentioned. You mentioned Mackai Beckton. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean that's like an all time coaching job to
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Speaker 3: put a guy he didn't play at a pro bow level.
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Speaker 3: We played an acceptable level, in fact, a good enough
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Speaker 3: level that he got a big deal, although only had
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Speaker 3: a one year structure. The Chargers cut him after one year,
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Speaker 3: which I kind of expected at the beginning unless he played,
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Speaker 3: Grady wouldn't see the second year with all the cash.
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Speaker 2: But what a story. That's a great one year deal
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Speaker 2: for sure.
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Speaker 1: Yep. It's also should be mentioned the Eagles, and I
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Speaker 1: think we talked about this in a recent pod. Howie
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Speaker 1: even brought it up, where their day one and day
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Speaker 1: two picks have been very successful over the last three years.
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Speaker 1: I believe it was like fourteen of fifteen to become
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Speaker 1: the starters, the only one with Sidney Brown. He's now gone.
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Speaker 1: So even if you do come to the Eagles and
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Speaker 1: play well for a year, it is hard to then
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Speaker 1: turn that into something longer in a starting position because
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Speaker 1: most of the Eagles starting positions on offense defense are
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Speaker 1: filled by guys that they've drafted and they've done a
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Speaker 1: good job with. So there is a part of that
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Speaker 1: that is a good thing. So let's get this two
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Speaker 1: part series started right. This is gonna be part one.
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Speaker 1: Here is the offense. We're gonna look at the offensive
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Speaker 1: depth chart and the first position we're gonna look at
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Speaker 1: is quarterback. And like you mentioned, whenever we do this
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Speaker 1: show each year, there's something that sticks out that makes
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Speaker 1: us think deeper about the position. And when you look
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Speaker 1: at quarterback right now, the depth chart itself is very obvious.
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Speaker 1: Your starters, Joan Hurts, your backup for as long as
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Speaker 1: he's here, is Tanner McKee, and they trade to bring
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Speaker 1: in Andy Dalton, so that gives you three. But the weird,
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Speaker 1: the interesting thing right at him is that Andy Dalton
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Speaker 1: has been a good quarterback in this league for a while.
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Speaker 1: He's made a lot of money, he's started a lot
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Speaker 1: of games. It is backed up for a while. It's
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Speaker 1: you have the contract numbers in front of you. He's
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Speaker 1: making kind of a weird salary for a number three quarterback,
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Speaker 1: and that's kind of strange. That's when you look at
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Speaker 1: the depth chart.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's he'll make two million of his
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Speaker 3: four million, four guaranteed. He's three point nine million salary
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Speaker 3: and one hundred thousand dollars workout bonus. So the question
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Speaker 3: will be will they approach him to take a pay cut.
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Speaker 3: But if he's the backup, I would accept it. I mean,
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Speaker 3: if they wind up trading McKay. That's why they that
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Speaker 3: he would be advised to wait, and they're not. They're
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Speaker 3: not playing games until September. I'm trying to camp till
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Speaker 3: late July, so they don't have to do anything right now.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's it's Dalton last year was deal.
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Speaker 3: Mcke last year's deal, and Hurts to sign for a
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Speaker 3: while longer. Now, let me throw this at it, because
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Speaker 3: the part of this why they're doing is it gives
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Speaker 3: you an idea of what they're looking at for the
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Speaker 3: future in the draft. Yes, hurts to sign for a
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Speaker 3: while longer. Would it surprise you if they drafted a quarterback.
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Speaker 1: No, not at all, Not at all, And that factors
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Speaker 1: into this equation. It wouldn't surprise me. I think people think, well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: if you trade Tenner McKee, it would make sense to
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Speaker 1: draft a quarterback. I think that it would just make
6:53
Speaker 1: sense for what you just said two minutes ago, which
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Speaker 1: is the only quarterback they have under contract in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and twenty seven would be Jalen Hurts McKee no
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Speaker 1: matter what happens, is the last year of his deal.
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Speaker 1: Same thing with Dalton. The Eagles love to have developmental
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks right, and they need one because they tried to
7:11
Speaker 1: get one last year in Colin McCord. It didn't work out,
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Speaker 1: didn't make the team. He's with the Packers now, so
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Speaker 1: they have nothing in that cupboard. And this is a
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Speaker 1: team that will tell you and beat you over the
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Speaker 1: head with it about how important it is to have
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Speaker 1: those young developmental quarterbacks like Tanner McKee once was in
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Speaker 1: the chain. So McKee, no McKee. They're going to draft
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Speaker 1: the quarterback. I truly believe that it could be as
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Speaker 1: high as round two, like a shocker like they did
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Speaker 1: with Hurts. It could be something Day three. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: don't know.
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Speaker 3: I'm just you know what, you know what, it would
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Speaker 3: not be because Hurts is coming off two subpar years. Yes,
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Speaker 3: they did win a Super Bowl with him and he
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Speaker 3: was certainly part of that, but he's been on the
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Speaker 3: downward trajectory.
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Speaker 2: So it would not surprise me.
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Speaker 3: Actually, maybe I'm in the minority, but I would not
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Speaker 3: surprise me if they drafted a quarterback as high as
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Speaker 3: the second round.
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Speaker 1: Yes, wouldn't surprise me at all. But as we uh
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Speaker 1: and I should have tease this at the start of
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Speaker 1: the show. You know, we started our shows with Greg
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Speaker 1: cosel our NFL Draft breakdown shows. I believe we've already
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Speaker 1: put the quarterbacks out, the running backs out, So the
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Speaker 1: next two will be starting tomorrow Tuesday wide receiver and
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Speaker 1: then Thursday tight end. Right, as we discussed in the
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Speaker 1: Quarterback show, this is a really good quarterback class to
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Speaker 1: get a developmental guy because there's not a lot of
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Speaker 1: pro ready guy. There's already questions enough about Fernando Mendoza,
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Speaker 1: but so and then obviously the number two guy, Ty Simpson.
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Speaker 1: We have no idea. He could be mid to bottom
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Speaker 1: first round, he could go out of the first round altogether.
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Speaker 1: And then after that there's a lot of guys that
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Speaker 1: Greg liked but felt he'd liked them as you know,
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Speaker 1: starting off their careers with a little seasoning, you know,
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Speaker 1: as a backup and then getting you know, two or
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Speaker 1: three years down the road, getting in Taylor Green. It's
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Speaker 1: an interesting one. Everybody's got to check out that. But
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Speaker 1: so my point is you're right, Adam, it could be
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Speaker 1: anywhere in as high as to it could be later,
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Speaker 1: but it is a good draft to try to find
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Speaker 1: the developmental guy.
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Speaker 3: It's a lot of good trade honestly, So we haven't
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Speaker 3: talked about this in wow, almost six years. When they
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Speaker 3: drafted Hurts, their thought process was, Okay, Wentz is our guy.
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Speaker 3: We just extended his contract in June of twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 3: They would never think it would go south. We know
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Speaker 3: Wins didn't haile it well, but the point is that
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Speaker 3: they thought that if Hurts would play a little bit,
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Speaker 3: they could want to flipping him for who knows what
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Speaker 3: if whatever tape you put together preseason, a regular season
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Speaker 3: fillading for Wentz would be good. We know it went
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Speaker 3: south for Wentz, but that how.
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Speaker 2: He's thicking ahead.
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Speaker 3: It was certainly in our this is our ninth year,
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Speaker 3: this is the bigger That was the biggest shock of
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Speaker 3: our of us doing it. The show is at that.
9:43
Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to go back and see you.
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Speaker 3: I have no idea what we said. We'd have to
9:47
Speaker 3: we had to have something to say after that.
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Speaker 2: That to me was like hair raising.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why you don't now the difference. Yes, Hurts
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Speaker 3: is signed for a bunch of years, but Wentz, he's
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Speaker 3: downward spirals he ironic. It was the Sun's extension in
10:04
Speaker 3: June of twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, he started to regress
10:09
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, he was really bad and then he
10:10
Speaker 3: went it out and the rest is history.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, even twenty eighteen, the second half of it was
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Speaker 1: a little I know, he he led them. Yeah, you
10:19
Speaker 1: were starting to see twenty eighteen some struggles as well.
10:21
Speaker 2: And you know, as you know, it's funny. I remember
10:24
Speaker 2: asking Greg, I said, why is he throwing?
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Speaker 3: Because his accuracy went way up, but his yards pass
10:30
Speaker 3: attempt I believe without looking at it went down because
10:33
Speaker 3: the back fractory became more accurate. He certainly didn't look
10:36
Speaker 3: like himself because major knee surgery then a back fracture. Okay,
10:41
Speaker 3: he's not the same guy. But when it comes to
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Speaker 3: the quarterback position, this football team, you brought it up
10:47
Speaker 3: at the start here nothing.
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Speaker 2: With surprise me.
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Speaker 3: We've learned our lesson in twenty twenty that gave us
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Speaker 3: the roadmap for this.
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Speaker 1: There you go. So regardless of what happens that though
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Speaker 1: the depth chart set, you know who you're number one is,
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Speaker 1: you know who your backup is at running back? Pretty
11:01
Speaker 1: similar here, oh bit. I do want to make one
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Speaker 1: more point in quarterback. If they did keep McKee and
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Speaker 1: draft a quarterback, that would give them four they have
11:09
Speaker 1: not had four quarterbacks on the fifty three uh in
11:14
Speaker 1: quite a bit. And if they draft the guy to
11:16
Speaker 1: your point, second round, third round, even fourth round, that
11:18
Speaker 1: guy's making a fit. It's not gonna be a a
11:20
Speaker 1: sort a cord where you can cut a sixth round pick, right,
11:23
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna make it.
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Speaker 3: So well, I'll say this, if they draft a second
11:27
Speaker 3: third round, you would have We're not big percentage of people,
11:30
Speaker 3: but the percentage of their trading. McKee would have to
11:32
Speaker 3: go up because McKay's death. Not that any would come
11:37
Speaker 3: back anyway because he wants.
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Speaker 2: To start, but he walks.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they get if he gets, if there's a team
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Speaker 3: or two out there that loves him, they could want
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Speaker 3: to get a.
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Speaker 2: Third run compensatory pick for him.
11:48
Speaker 3: If he signed a big deal and Dalton again is
11:51
Speaker 3: not signed after the season, you just you'd rather not
11:54
Speaker 3: keep four quarterbacks.
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Speaker 2: But if they have to, they have.
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Speaker 1: To, right, and there is always a quarterback market. People
11:59
Speaker 1: think you have to do it by the draft. Now,
12:00
Speaker 1: we've seen in training camp and preseason games quarterbacks get
12:03
Speaker 1: hurt all the time. And you know that's how we
12:06
Speaker 1: went from Carson Wentz not Carson Wentz Sam Bradford straight
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Speaker 1: to Carson Wentz with no Chase Daniel in between, because
12:13
Speaker 1: they had drafted Wentz, they still had Bradford. The Vikings
12:16
Speaker 1: was a Bridgewater who got hurt and then they wound
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Speaker 1: up training for.
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Speaker 3: Sam Bradford. Yeah happens. Yeah, Yeah, that's it. That's the leverage.
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Speaker 3: Play by Howie with Rix Spielman's the Vikings had a
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Speaker 3: playoff ready team. It's just funny how things work out sometimes.
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Speaker 3: And the twenty sixteen right, it was twenty sixteen, yes, sixteen,
12:40
Speaker 3: right before the season started. That's the leverage because they're like,
12:42
Speaker 3: all right, you need someone who could start. Bradford for
12:47
Speaker 3: the name went totally south. He did have some good
12:49
Speaker 3: games there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way that I have a great flat.
12:52
Speaker 1: I was working at the Fanatic at the time, doing
12:54
Speaker 1: a shift on that day and I happened to get
12:59
Speaker 1: a message from a good source of mind, and it
13:02
Speaker 1: was just that eyeballs, you know, like to watch the
13:05
Speaker 1: like eyeballs, something happened. You never say that on exit Twitter, right,
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Speaker 1: And it was a smart enough smoke signal to me
13:13
Speaker 1: because I you know, you knew what was going on
13:14
Speaker 1: at the time, you knew the Vikings needed a quarterback,
13:17
Speaker 1: and then I started saying, all right, listen, we gotta
13:20
Speaker 1: be ready. There might be something about to go down
13:22
Speaker 1: here with h you know, with with the Eagles, with
13:25
Speaker 1: Viking and something like that. And then it was like
13:27
Speaker 1: five minutes later it happened.
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Speaker 2: So I was, well, it's interesting, is the two sides
13:31
Speaker 2: to talk to in the week.
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Speaker 3: But there was no resolution. And then the the urgency
13:37
Speaker 3: comes that Spilman had to do something. They're not throwing
13:39
Speaker 3: their season away, as much as it might have hurt them.
13:41
Speaker 3: Everyone that with Tady's injury which was almost almost career ending,
13:46
Speaker 3: and he went back to the lines this year, which
13:49
Speaker 3: is interesting.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, the.
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Speaker 3: Quarterback position, man, it's just it's a wild thing. Man
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Speaker 3: and Vegles are in a very interesting position going forward.
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Speaker 2: Here.
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Speaker 1: There you go, all right. The running also pretty set
14:01
Speaker 1: in stone. Sakuon Barkley is gonna come back. He's your
14:03
Speaker 1: bell cow. I think you and I both went into
14:06
Speaker 1: last year, even before they acquired Tank bigsby, thinking that
14:10
Speaker 1: after the year he had in twenty twenty four, they
14:13
Speaker 1: were probably gonna try to lighten his workload. Well we
14:16
Speaker 1: were wrong on that. Lightened his workload at all. I
14:18
Speaker 1: mean he had. He was still top five in the
14:20
Speaker 1: NFL and in touches and carries, so he is their
14:23
Speaker 1: their bell cow. Now I'd like to see Bigsby get involved.
14:27
Speaker 1: I think there he is a nice change up runner.
14:29
Speaker 1: He gives them a little extra dimension. It'll be interesting
14:33
Speaker 1: to see if Shipley at him in year three, can
14:37
Speaker 1: you know, compete with Bigsby to maybe see a different role,
14:40
Speaker 1: a pass catching role in this offense. But those are
14:42
Speaker 1: your top three.
14:43
Speaker 2: All right, here's what happened last year.
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Speaker 3: So they make the tray for Tank Bigsby, right yep,
14:47
Speaker 3: Well they use him as a kickoff returner.
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Speaker 2: Didn't work.
14:52
Speaker 3: We kept saying, like every week, we kid folks that'd
14:54
Speaker 3: intra him just to be a kickoff returner. They're not
14:56
Speaker 3: giving up what they did just for kick reck turning.
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Speaker 3: He's going to eventually carrey to the football. But it
14:59
Speaker 3: took so long and to the point where once he
15:02
Speaker 3: got in he looked great. We're like, okay, why did
15:04
Speaker 3: you do this five weeks ago? But it is what
15:06
Speaker 3: it is.
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Speaker 2: So that is why Barkley had way too much work.
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Speaker 2: That's part of it. Shipley. He's got some juice. They
15:13
Speaker 2: didn't throw him a lot in the pass game.
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Speaker 3: Yes he's a kickoff returner, but he did not have
15:18
Speaker 3: the role that they probably thought he would have, so
15:21
Speaker 3: he didn't get on the field.
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Speaker 2: And that's it. That's why Barkley got all that work.
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Speaker 3: They just didn't. It's a confetive thing. The coaches tell
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Speaker 3: you what they think when they don't play these guys, right,
15:29
Speaker 3: didn't have any concert at that.
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Speaker 1: Point, and the Eagles have been pretty I would say
15:33
Speaker 1: fortunate in that Barkley has always had an injury history,
15:37
Speaker 1: but since coming to the Eagles, despite the big workload,
15:40
Speaker 1: he has stayed healthy for two straight years, which, you know,
15:42
Speaker 1: you knock on wood, but that was certainly I wouldn't
15:45
Speaker 1: have predicted that, you know, I would have thought he
15:46
Speaker 1: would have missed a few games here and there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I Biggsby to me.
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Speaker 3: I would absolutely look to bring him back if he
15:58
Speaker 3: continues to play at this level. And do you remember
16:00
Speaker 3: the game with McKee, I think it was against Washington
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Speaker 3: that that that checkdown?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, incredible.
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Speaker 3: How he his explosion is in. He is a really
16:12
Speaker 3: good backup running back.
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Speaker 2: He saw it.
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Speaker 3: He was terrific that that trade was interesting to give
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Speaker 3: up a lot for him, but to me, I would
16:17
Speaker 3: love to bring him back from Howie.
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Speaker 1: All right, So also I agree at this this is
16:22
Speaker 1: a weird position for the Eagles because we just mentioned
16:25
Speaker 1: their top three that really should be enough, but for
16:27
Speaker 1: whatever reason, a couple of times over the last few
16:29
Speaker 1: years that Heals have kept the fourth running back and
16:31
Speaker 1: basically let that guy collect dust. We saw that happen
16:35
Speaker 1: were shot Petty in twenty three, and then we saw
16:37
Speaker 1: it happened last year with a J Yeah, AJ Dillon.
16:41
Speaker 1: I mean, they're taking up a roster spot, but they're
16:43
Speaker 1: they're not being used at all. And there were so
16:46
Speaker 1: many transactions Eagles had to make last year we would say, well,
16:51
Speaker 1: what's the corresponding move?
16:52
Speaker 2: Is it?
16:52
Speaker 1: AJ Dillon? Because you could probably bring him back a yeah,
16:55
Speaker 1: and then he never would cut him. It was very odd,
16:58
Speaker 1: and so that's why I look at the these two
17:00
Speaker 1: guys that they bring in in the off season. Here
17:02
Speaker 1: Carson Steele, who you know, whether it's running back or
17:05
Speaker 1: fullback or not sure yet, and then Damian Pierce because
17:08
Speaker 1: you know, Ali has to have a guy from Florida.
17:11
Speaker 1: So those guys are competing for a fourth running back.
17:13
Speaker 1: I think you and I would say there's no need
17:15
Speaker 1: for either of these guys to make the team unless
17:17
Speaker 1: they're amazing, and you can't, you know, for whatever reason
17:19
Speaker 1: you feel like you can't. But I can't rule it out.
17:22
Speaker 1: For the Eagles, they keep four running backs sometimes.
17:25
Speaker 3: Well, it is amazing to me they never cut Dylan.
17:29
Speaker 3: They just would have him an active He's now with
17:30
Speaker 3: a Panthers on a one year deal. Yeah, but when
17:34
Speaker 3: you look at it again past the season, as we
17:36
Speaker 3: finish this off, it's kind of barren. So yeah, I
17:41
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if they took a running back as
17:42
Speaker 3: high as a third round. I've got a lot of picks,
17:45
Speaker 3: and you know how he's he just generally doesn't stay
17:47
Speaker 3: pat but Bigsby, as we move on here, he's a
17:51
Speaker 3: guy that he's really intriguing as a number two running back.
17:55
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. And so the only guys would be under
17:58
Speaker 1: contract going forward after this year Barkley and Shipley.
18:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, third year yes, yeah.
18:05
Speaker 1: All right, wide receiver, we kind of have to have
18:07
Speaker 1: two separate conversations about the depth chart. It's the with
18:10
Speaker 1: AJ Brown depth chart and then without AJ Brown depth chart.
18:13
Speaker 1: So let's start off with AJ Brown I think the
18:18
Speaker 1: Eagles are and this is probably the one position where
18:21
Speaker 1: you say the Eagles are better now than when they
18:25
Speaker 1: ended the year. There's not a lot of positions you
18:27
Speaker 1: can say that about. They're either the same or a
18:30
Speaker 1: little bit worse. Again, it's early. You know, we're not
18:33
Speaker 1: not making any value judgements on that. But receiver, I
18:36
Speaker 1: think you could say you lose Johan Dotson as your
18:39
Speaker 1: number three, but you do pick up Marquise Brown. You
18:43
Speaker 1: know you're taking a flyer here on Elijah Moore. So
18:47
Speaker 1: your your top three guys are aj Brown, DeVante Smith,
18:51
Speaker 1: Marquise Brown, and then you got some some battles over
18:54
Speaker 1: the Cooper.
18:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Cooper's in the mix now.
18:57
Speaker 3: The key for as we talked about at the of
19:02
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore, nobody has any idea of Elijah Moore, though
19:05
Speaker 3: he's still young at twenty six, is anything left right.
19:08
Speaker 3: He's been in such a downward truck since he left
19:09
Speaker 3: the Browns, where he played his best ball in terms
19:11
Speaker 3: of target rate and total production. I mean, it's been
19:17
Speaker 3: a disaster since then. He just is not He just
19:19
Speaker 3: can't stick anywhere, true, So we don't know if he
19:22
Speaker 3: could play anymore. It just you know, he wented out
19:24
Speaker 3: that the Jets didn't want to play with Zach Wilson.
19:27
Speaker 3: M believe let he put some numbers up, didn't bring
19:30
Speaker 3: them back. Son elsewhere hasn't been able to stick. So
19:33
Speaker 3: that that's concerning.
19:34
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. Andrew Dicheco made a great point
19:36
Speaker 1: on one of his Dicheco Daily podcasts. Right when you
19:39
Speaker 1: look at your fourth and fifth and maybe sixth receiver,
19:41
Speaker 1: you always look at special teams. That's not an area
19:44
Speaker 1: Eli Moore has a whole lot of impact or even
19:47
Speaker 1: experience with. So if a J. Brown is on this
19:49
Speaker 1: team and you have a J. Brown, DeVante Smith, Marquise Brown,
19:54
Speaker 1: then now you're talking about who you're four and five,
19:56
Speaker 1: and special teams has to factor in. I believe Cooper
19:59
Speaker 1: did play special team for the Eagles last year. Johnny Wilson,
20:01
Speaker 1: we know because of that big body can play it
20:04
Speaker 1: he has. He'll be trying to come back from the
20:06
Speaker 1: injury that he had last year. I think it makes
20:07
Speaker 1: it tougher for Eli Moore to make this team. I know,
20:10
Speaker 1: I know there's this thought process that you and I
20:12
Speaker 1: have already debunked that they brought in Eli Moore because
20:15
Speaker 1: he's friends with AJ Brown and he's gonna no, no, no.
20:19
Speaker 1: And in fact, if AJ Brown's here, it is going
20:21
Speaker 1: to be more difficult for Elijah Moore to make the
20:23
Speaker 1: team because of that lack of assuming everybody's healthy and
20:27
Speaker 1: what they are supposed to be, because of his lack
20:28
Speaker 1: of them.
20:29
Speaker 3: So before we move on to toight end, if Brown's here,
20:31
Speaker 3: it's Brown, Smith, Hollywood, Brown three, more could be five,
20:36
Speaker 3: Cooper gild be six, Wilson seven.
20:37
Speaker 2: So you got they've kept six before. I believe at
20:40
Speaker 2: some point, Yeah, fifty three. It's not ideal.
20:44
Speaker 3: It's not ideal, right, but I'm telling you Elijah Moore
20:48
Speaker 3: as an inside receiver, it's very intriguing. If he's even
20:51
Speaker 3: close to what he was with the Jets of the Browns,
20:54
Speaker 3: we just don't know. Nobody knows, you know. No, he
20:57
Speaker 3: just has not been able to get a foothold back
20:58
Speaker 3: on his career. But yeah, Cooper deserves to be on
21:02
Speaker 3: this football team. He's Scott. You saw last year they
21:06
Speaker 3: he picked up some of the slack for Johnny Wilson
21:08
Speaker 3: in the red zone to block or overall on the block.
21:10
Speaker 3: He was a great story of development out of coming
21:12
Speaker 3: out of training camps. An untracted free agent certainly not
21:15
Speaker 3: a lock to make the team, but he's got a
21:17
Speaker 3: good shot. So a lot of this comes down, as
21:20
Speaker 3: you said, whether aj Brown is on the team or not.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go take a look at tight end.
23:42
Speaker 1: Before we get into it, I want to direct everybody's
23:45
Speaker 1: attention if you haven't read it, or I'm sorry, read
23:47
Speaker 1: it if you haven't seen it or listen to it yet.
23:49
Speaker 1: Andrew de Checo has started doing interviews with draft prospects
23:53
Speaker 1: and he had won recently with Eli Stowers out of Vanderbilt.
23:56
Speaker 1: He is probably the second or third best tight end know.
24:00
Speaker 1: We know Kenyon sadik Is is the number one prospect
24:02
Speaker 1: in the first rounder, but Stours is a really good
24:06
Speaker 1: prospect out of Vanderbilt, and he had an awesome discussion
24:08
Speaker 1: with Andrew. Eli did have a formal interview at the
24:12
Speaker 1: combine with the Eagles. He got to know Ryan Mahaffey,
24:15
Speaker 1: so he gave some people our listeners a little insight
24:18
Speaker 1: onto what it was like to talk to Mahafey and
24:20
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of I don't know if any
24:22
Speaker 1: other outlets have had, you know, anybody anything on Ryan
24:25
Speaker 1: Mahafey because none of the coaches of new coaches have
24:27
Speaker 1: talked to the media yet. So definitely worth checking out.
24:30
Speaker 1: And obviously a guy Adam that's on on the egos radar,
24:33
Speaker 1: as you should, because this tight end position is probably
24:37
Speaker 1: the most complex one to figure out.
24:39
Speaker 3: Well, got our one year deal, Kakuta won your deal,
24:42
Speaker 3: mont smart lots in the final year. Jenkins, I believe
24:47
Speaker 3: got a multi year deal because they typically.
24:49
Speaker 2: Do this with the future deals.
24:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, and jaheem Bell, but it's Barren passed the season.
24:54
Speaker 3: This is this is a this is a quality year
24:58
Speaker 3: to do it. I mean, this is the deepest inten
25:00
Speaker 3: years at tight end. This draft a good year to
25:02
Speaker 3: do it. It's top having terms of the best guy,
25:06
Speaker 3: it's not it's not close, he's he's I mean, when
25:10
Speaker 3: you look at that tight end position, it's it's one
25:12
Speaker 3: guy from Oregon, yep, and it's everybody else. But Stours
25:16
Speaker 3: is really good. It's Cidique. You got Stours Claire, Yeah, yep.
25:22
Speaker 3: Trigg is interesting. Oh, by the way, that show's coming
25:25
Speaker 3: later this week. With Cosell on tight ends for the draft.
25:28
Speaker 1: Looking for Yeah, that'll be Thursday, I believe, Okay, cool
25:31
Speaker 1: wide receivers Tuesday, tight ends Thursday. So yeah, we expect
25:34
Speaker 1: the Eagles to absolutely address this position. Would be surprising
25:38
Speaker 1: if they don't. Uh. And again listen to that Eli
25:40
Speaker 1: Stowers interview with the Checko. As far as you know,
25:44
Speaker 1: like we talked about why they brought in Mont because
25:47
Speaker 1: he's played you know, he was last with Jacksonville. I
25:49
Speaker 1: think it was a one point in Minnesota, so he's
25:51
Speaker 1: played in these McVeigh O'Connell offenses. But he was already
25:55
Speaker 1: cut loose by Jacksonville. So I mean he's got to
25:58
Speaker 1: make the team still play. Yeah, So I just this
26:05
Speaker 1: position to me is still under major, major operation. But
26:08
Speaker 1: if you had to play a game today, obviously you're
26:10
Speaker 1: your top two guys are Goddard, Calkatara and Mont. I
26:13
Speaker 1: guess would have to be there because if you're in,
26:15
Speaker 1: if you're trying to run block, you need a guy
26:18
Speaker 1: like Mont.
26:19
Speaker 3: They have to have somebody a lot too. Will We'll
26:22
Speaker 3: have to see what mffey thinks of him.
26:24
Speaker 2: And he's still here.
26:25
Speaker 3: He count blocked. There's no question about that. A former
26:27
Speaker 3: third round pick for the Niners. So it's smart to
26:29
Speaker 3: move tight end. Yeah, Jackets to keep giving him a
26:32
Speaker 3: try to keep bringing them back. Jahan Bell is an
26:34
Speaker 3: undersized tight end, so we shall. We shall see what
26:38
Speaker 3: happens here. It's going to be interesting.
26:39
Speaker 1: Who originally drafted lots of the Niners, right, So, okay,
26:44
Speaker 1: another guy at this position who has experience in a
26:47
Speaker 1: McVeigh slash Shanahan style offense, and I think you and
26:51
Speaker 1: I are in agreement in this. We would like him
26:53
Speaker 1: to see him get some real good opportunity to show
26:56
Speaker 1: what he can do in this offense as both a
26:59
Speaker 1: blocker and even a little bit of a pass catcher
27:01
Speaker 1: because he was able to he was an athletic guy
27:03
Speaker 1: at Alabama.
27:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're really draft in a specific if he can
27:09
Speaker 3: only do one thing lotto in terms of blocking.
27:11
Speaker 2: It's a little bit rich to draft a blocking tight end.
27:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's now twenty six, he's a third rounder
27:18
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty three, and he's been with the Niners,
27:22
Speaker 3: the Browns, and now the Eagles.
27:22
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens, all right.
27:24
Speaker 1: So that's tight end. Let's get to the old line.
27:27
Speaker 1: Adam let's go inside out. We'll start at center, all right,
27:31
Speaker 1: I had a chance. I don't know if you saw it,
27:33
Speaker 1: but Cam Jurgens appeared on the Busting with the Boys
27:36
Speaker 1: podcast Okay, and he described the injury he had at
27:41
Speaker 1: the end of the Super Bowl season. You know, remember
27:43
Speaker 1: he didn't start the NFC Championship game. Dickerson started because
27:46
Speaker 1: Cam was really hurting in the back area. And he
27:49
Speaker 1: said on the podcast that his disc had fully broken
27:54
Speaker 1: off and wrapped around his sciatic nerve. I can't imagine.
27:57
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine the type of paint this guy
28:00
Speaker 1: was in. And the fact that he played in the
28:01
Speaker 1: Super Bowl is pretty amazing. But he said, look, you
28:05
Speaker 1: have surgery like this and you don't just snap your
28:08
Speaker 1: fingers and come back from it and a year or so. Yeah, yeah, So,
28:12
Speaker 1: I mean that could partially be well, it could probably
28:16
Speaker 1: be a reason for his twenty twenty five season. Interestingly,
28:20
Speaker 1: the Eagles gave him that contract extension in between them
28:24
Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl season, knowing he was going to
28:26
Speaker 1: have that surgery.
28:28
Speaker 3: Yeah they knew it. Yeah, I mean, they knew where
28:30
Speaker 3: he's at. But you know, you bank on your medical
28:32
Speaker 3: team saying okay, he'll be good. It's going to take
28:35
Speaker 3: a while, but he'll be good around this time whatever
28:37
Speaker 3: month that they could pick. So, yeah, it's it's concerned.
28:40
Speaker 3: I look with a Dickerson thing. At the very least though,
28:44
Speaker 3: they they need Lane Johnson's replacements.
28:47
Speaker 2: To rather than later.
28:48
Speaker 3: You don't want to force anything. That's that's when you
28:50
Speaker 3: start framing picks. You don't want to frame picks. But
28:52
Speaker 3: it's sure like he use a developmental guy in back
28:56
Speaker 3: of Dickerson and Stein. That to me right now, because
29:02
Speaker 3: they tried. They tried a couple of years ago with
29:05
Speaker 3: Trevor Keagan out of Michigan and he was cut. The
29:08
Speaker 3: Cowboys cleon off Waivers with Matt Hennessy you might remember
29:11
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. Yeah, fly but Atlanta and
29:13
Speaker 3: the Niners, and it's just they haven't been able to
29:16
Speaker 3: find that guy.
29:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the They had another day three center that
29:20
Speaker 1: the Rams took from him.
29:22
Speaker 3: Uh, Dylan McMahon was way too small. Andrew and I
29:25
Speaker 3: are a training camp. I remember two years ago.
29:27
Speaker 2: I thought he was a fullback. Yeah, got center?
29:30
Speaker 1: Yeah crazy?
29:31
Speaker 3: Uh.
29:31
Speaker 1: And then obviously, as you just said, depth behind them,
29:34
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about the second year for Drew Kendall,
29:37
Speaker 1: who was able to get in in that season finale
29:39
Speaker 1: and some decent reps. Jake Majors is a guy who
29:42
Speaker 1: is uh, they brought in. He's not played obviously in
29:46
Speaker 1: the NFL. He had thirty seven starts of Texas though.
29:48
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy with a lot of college experience.
29:51
Speaker 3: He does, I mean, but again, he was not drafted,
29:54
Speaker 3: just like Willie Lampkin, who could play center, he wasn't drafted.
29:58
Speaker 2: He was cut. It was the Eagles claim off Waivers
30:00
Speaker 2: is way injured by the Rams.
30:02
Speaker 1: YEP.
30:02
Speaker 2: So there's just and and and Drew Kendall.
30:04
Speaker 3: There's a lot of personal people we spoke with about
30:07
Speaker 3: Kendle least over the last year, would tell us that
30:10
Speaker 3: he's really at this level center. You could question a guard.
30:13
Speaker 3: We know the scheme has changed, which might favor him
30:15
Speaker 3: because he's smaller, but you got a block and it's
30:20
Speaker 3: it's tough when you're smaller in the interior.
30:22
Speaker 1: Yeah. So this this one is really to me. This
30:25
Speaker 1: depth chart is incomplete from two ways. Right, Probably the draft,
30:28
Speaker 1: like you said, a good developmental guy, but also you
30:32
Speaker 1: need a veteran inside guy. You need a veteran center
30:34
Speaker 1: guard here that you know, maybe they'll have one of
30:36
Speaker 1: those post draft may signings. Doesn't count against.
30:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't do anything now. You could wait till
30:41
Speaker 3: training cap it. It doesn't matter. The time is not
30:44
Speaker 3: the issue. The issues about the season, right, you want
30:47
Speaker 3: to have that guy when they brought in Nick Gates,
30:48
Speaker 3: who that's a perfect example of just having an insurance
30:51
Speaker 3: policy if somebody gets hurt.
30:52
Speaker 2: You want to have that done.
30:54
Speaker 1: There you go, let's go to guard where you'll have
30:57
Speaker 1: Tyler Stein and right guard, and Landed Dickerson the left guard.
31:00
Speaker 1: And Landon actually took a recent trip to the same
31:05
Speaker 1: I forget. I think it's called Biogenesis Lab in mid Eyen,
31:09
Speaker 1: Columbia that your center went to Jurgens went to. It's
31:13
Speaker 1: never good when you have to have guys going to
31:15
Speaker 1: foreign countries. I mean, it's good for them that they
31:17
Speaker 1: get these treatments, but I'm saying it's always a little
31:20
Speaker 1: bit concerning when you have to have two guys on
31:22
Speaker 1: your offensive line both kind of seek that medical treatment.
31:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're trying to get a better quality of life.
31:28
Speaker 3: It's not just for now, it's about for your future.
31:30
Speaker 1: Yep.
31:31
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's tough man.
31:33
Speaker 3: When you I can't remember an interior offensive lineman, maybe
31:37
Speaker 3: you could remember that has had more work done than
31:40
Speaker 3: Dickerson going back to his college days.
31:41
Speaker 2: It's just remarkable.
31:43
Speaker 1: Uh good, No, No, not as much as Dickerson because you,
31:45
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, I think he had three surgeries. I
31:48
Speaker 1: know you have four injuries, three surgeries in college. Then
31:50
Speaker 1: he's been banged up.
31:51
Speaker 2: You know.
31:52
Speaker 1: The only thing I can kind of think of is
31:54
Speaker 1: is Seoan Andrews. They drafted him, he missed his first
31:58
Speaker 1: year because he broke his bone. He's broke his like left,
32:00
Speaker 1: I forget which which broke. He broke a leg, and
32:03
Speaker 1: then he came back and the emergence are one of
32:05
Speaker 1: the best guards in football for a couple of years.
32:07
Speaker 1: They were going to move him to tackle and then
32:09
Speaker 1: that's when the back injuries just stop.
32:14
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just couldn't stop.
32:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. So depth wise, behind Steen, behind Dickerson, you're looking again,
32:21
Speaker 1: they've got Kendall, who your sources have said is really
32:24
Speaker 1: more of a center than a guard.
32:25
Speaker 3: I'd still play guard, but I question it. Basically we've
32:28
Speaker 3: heard we'll.
32:29
Speaker 1: See right, Uh, and then really again there when you're
32:33
Speaker 1: looking at backup guard here there's Eagles always seem to
32:35
Speaker 1: have a guy that they're ready to put in there,
32:38
Speaker 1: and it might be a guy who's been a second
32:39
Speaker 1: round or a third round pick. But right now, Barren
32:42
Speaker 1: empty cupboard.
32:43
Speaker 2: Don't have anyone.
32:44
Speaker 3: No there, this is where again you you'd rather get
32:47
Speaker 3: a center slash guard. Just have the history of getting
32:50
Speaker 3: multiple positional interior alignement. Right, It's something I would look
32:54
Speaker 3: for towards training camp.
32:57
Speaker 1: There you go sign somebody all right at tackle. The
33:00
Speaker 1: Eagles have done a better job with at least making
33:03
Speaker 1: sure to bring back Fred Johnson for death. Yeah, that's huge.
33:06
Speaker 1: You got Jordan myy Allot at left tackle, You got
33:08
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson at right tackle for at least one more year.
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Speaker 1: You bring back Fred Johnson. So you feel good about
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Speaker 1: your swing, Well, you feel good about your your right
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Speaker 1: tackle situation. I know Fred did play a little bit
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Speaker 1: of left tackle last year as well. If I'm not
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Speaker 1: mistaken a couple of snaps. I think my a Lota
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Speaker 1: came out of one game and he played, or maybe
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Speaker 1: is the resting starters game at the end of the year.
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Speaker 1: I think Fred played left tackle and then somebody else
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Speaker 1: played right tackle.
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Speaker 2: Oh, Cam Williams Cameron.
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Speaker 1: Williams came in, right, Yeah, so that so so there
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Speaker 1: you go, he can be a swing tackle. But everybody,
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Speaker 1: you know, Cameron Williams is a guy who I think
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Speaker 1: what we what we said was and Greg Cosell broke
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Speaker 1: it down. He had good snaps in that game, in
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Speaker 1: that resting starter season finale, but that was because the
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Speaker 1: expectation was very low for him. It was a project
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Speaker 1: Day three pick. It wasn't a great game. It was
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Speaker 1: just that he was able to show he could handle
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Speaker 1: some snaps at that level.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a project, but man, it was very intriguing,
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Speaker 3: Like he leaves you wanting to see more, Like it
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Speaker 3: was that good, Like you go, wow, okay, we can
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Speaker 3: work with this. But Stout's gone, right, so now the
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Speaker 3: techniques may change a little bit with the new offensive
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Speaker 3: line coach. Show that's that's kind of the unknown here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and remember, you know, we'll talk about this with
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Speaker 1: Cameron Williams, with the other guy that drafted last year,
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Speaker 1: Miles hitting a tackle with Holland Pierce, the Rutgers kids.
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Speaker 1: These guys are enormous, mauling wingspan guy Holland Pierce has
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Speaker 1: an eighty eight and like one quarter inch wingspan. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's gigantic, but that's the formula. That's the template that
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Speaker 1: Stoutland really liked. He liked the big mauling road graders,
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Speaker 1: and he figured he would be able to get to
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Speaker 1: them in past pro if they had slow feet, he
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Speaker 1: would help them figure it out, but they would maul
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Speaker 1: in the run. You're now talking about a new type
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Speaker 1: of blocking scheme and system, and you do have to
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Speaker 1: wonder if some of these guys are going to adapt
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Speaker 1: well to a horizontal ish blocking scheme.
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Speaker 3: Cam Woyens, by the way, six five and three quarters,
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Speaker 3: he's got great length, three seventeenth the combine last er
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Speaker 3: thirty four and a half inch arms, eighty four and
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Speaker 3: a half inch wingspan, but biggest hands of any offensive
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Speaker 3: lineman eleven and three ace, which is massive. So he's
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Speaker 3: just got ideal length. I mean, really, what you what
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Speaker 3: you're looking for? You?
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Speaker 2: It's very rare.
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Speaker 3: Length is probably the term. And he did put some
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Speaker 3: intriguing STAPs out against watching. He's a guy that wait,
35:32
Speaker 3: year two is gonna be big for him in this offseason.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, So that's it. That's that's your depth situation.
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Speaker 1: That's your depth chart for the entire offense, and in
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Speaker 1: the next episode we'll go through defense, unless, of course,
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Speaker 1: Ego starts signing a bunch of guys and we might
35:47
Speaker 1: do a breaking news type pod then and then get
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Speaker 1: back to us, But for now, that's gonna do it
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