Latest / Divas That Care Network / Art SPEAKS

Transcript

Art SPEAKS · Divas That Care Network

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's Divas That Care Radio.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_00: Stories, strategies, and ideas to inspire positive change.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Divas That Care, a network of women committed to making our world a better place for everyone.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: This is a global movement for women, by women, engaged in a collaborative effort to create a better world for future generations.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_00: To find out more about the movement, visit DivasThatCare.com after the show.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right now though, stay tuned for another jolt of inspiration.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for joining Shiva Shares, a part of the Divas That Care Network.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's such an honor and a privilege to have amazing women on the platform to share what they're doing, to share their gifts, their abilities, their talents, to share their advice, their experience, just to make the world a better place.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: So I have the awesome honor and privilege of introducing and interviewing Miss Zyda.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: So Zyda, thank you so much for being on the show.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: today.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: How are you?
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for having me.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm good.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_02: How are you?
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm doing very, very, very well.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_02: To be honest with you, you are at this point the youngest person that we've interviewed, but it's so good.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: I thought that it would be amazing to have you because obviously we know one another personally, but we know one another professionally as well because you have done Quite a few illustrations for me for my children's books.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: And so I thought it'd be perfect to have you on the show.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: So just share a little bit about yourself, you know, who you are and what do you do?
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_02: I
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: guess I would say I'm a very free-spirited person.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you are.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: I try not to let certain things hold me down.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: And what I would normally do is art-based related work, such as graphic design or painting.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: Anything else?
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: I guess I'm very headstrong if I put myself towards something.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I guess you are.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_02: Are you kidding me?
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, you are.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_02: You are.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_02: You are.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_02: So that's great.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_02: So as you all may know, or maybe you don't know, the topic of our show is titled Art Speaks.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_02: Now, as a fellow artist, you know, I mean, you know, they say art is life.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it was so cool.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_02: I thought it was so cool.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: But I was like, you know what?
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: Art definitely speaks from my own personal experience.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_02: My apartment here, the vision was for it to be almost like a art studio.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_02: And so I've had people in the past, you know, that come and they really give the interpretation of the many art.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, in some regard, it probably looks...
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_02: clustered and all over the place, but to an artist, it's beautiful.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's inspiring.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, and it just, to me, it just empowers me.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_02: It makes me feel safe and comfortable.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: So then Zyna, what does art do for you?
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: For me, I'd say art just helps me express the random thoughts I have in my head throughout the day.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so Shia, what are some pieces that you have done?
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_02: Do you name your pieces?
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: I know some artists just kind of flow and then it's it.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_02: Or if you're anything like myself or other artists that I know, I mean, everything has to have a name.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_02: So what about you?
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: What is your experience when you're creating art?
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: For me, I actually do not name the pieces.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_01: I just have a vision in my head already.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I try to put that on paper as best as I can.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: And once it's done, there's still no name.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: It just remains that way.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_02: And so where do you get this artistic ability from?
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: Does it run in your family?
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_02: Are you, you know, kind of this new, you know, almost like, well, where did this come from?
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_02: So what do you think that you get your ability from?
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'd
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: say I get my ability from my family because it definitely runs in the blood.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_01: Both my grandfather and my uncle are very artistic artists.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_01: And they're very good with their hands.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's amazing.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_02: So do they do art or do they do like other forms of, you know, do they actually paint or, you know, sketch or things like, what type of art do
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: they do?
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: For my uncle, I'd say he does both animation and sketching.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: While my grandfather, he's more of hands-on, creating sculptures and paintings and drawings.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's so amazing.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_02: Has any of them seen your art?
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: My uncle has seen my art and so has my grandfather, but I don't think they've seen anything recent.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: And what was their reaction?
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: My grandfather was very surprised because what I had shown him was a doll exhaling smoke that was running through a pipe connected to bones and flesh and
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so what type of art is that?
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_02: Is it a modern day art?
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like what type of art was that?
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_02: Is it abstract or, you know?
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'd say it was like
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: a contemporary
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_02: abstract art.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_02: Good, good.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_02: So what's your favorite medium?
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_02: Do you do multiple mediums or do you have one niche?
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_02: Which one is your favorite?
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's hard to say which one is my favorite, but my top two would be painting and drawing with markers.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because for me, it helps with the detail.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: Gotcha, okay.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: And the fine lines here and there.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's so amazing.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_02: So you mentioned before something about the random thoughts that come to your mind in a day, right?
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: So let's think about it through the mind of an artist, right?
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_02: So what does that look like?
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_02: What does that look like to be in the mind of an artist or illustrator?
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_02: Again, the topic of the show is Art Speaks.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, it's something I guess that has to speak to you then you translate it into some type of masterpiece.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_02: So what, like in a typical, just a general, you don't have to go through every specific or, you know, detail, but so in a general day, what does that look like?
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_02: Or what does that sound like?
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: Or, you know, feel like?
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_02: What does that look like?
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: Back when I did used to paint frequently, the general day, I just think of different ways in order to enhance myself a piece I'm currently creating because I still kind of consider myself a beginner.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: So it's difficult to touch upon the realistic aspects of art, but whenever I can, I'd always try to just fill in the details here and there for whatever piece I'm working on at the moment.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I'd even, usually the inspiration would come at around maybe one in the morning.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, that's a perfect time.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, that's the part, like those weird, everybody's sleeping and your mind as a creator or an artist, sorry, your mind is just going, you know what I mean?
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's the craziest thing ever.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_02: You're like, settle down, settle down, settle down, settle down.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: But okay, so there was one thing that you mentioned as far as, you know, just adding on or building on to a piece that you started.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think that art is a process?
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_02: And if it is, what does that mean to you?
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think that there's ever a period, if I can say, or is it more of a comma and it just continues to flow?
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think about that?
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_02: I
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: think it's a process because for me at the moment, I'm currently not really doing any art and it's been that way for a while because the motivation would come and go.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: So it's as though the water is flowing and then it just stops abruptly.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_02: Did you notice in your personal art journey that what you mentioned as far as like the spark or the interest, do you notice what is their connection to that?
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like what connects you to that?
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like for instance, I know I've heard this, right?
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm still trying to dissect it to see if I think that it's true, right?
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_02: But sometimes people say that one of the biggest inspirations for artists is love.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: So whatever that be, maybe that'd be, you know, song art, so forth and so on.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_02: So for you, you know, what is your biggest inspiration as it relates to art?
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_02: What, what is that factor that causes you to, you know, kind of pick up and keep moving or running or, you know, I don't know if that's maybe the right way to explain it, but do you understand what I'm saying?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what is that inspiration?
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_02: What does that spark?
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think I understand what you're saying.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: And for me, the inspiration would have to be the person, the peculiar parts of life.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's what I tend to draw.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like in one of my pieces or in a few of my pieces, I'm very obsessed with eyes because it's sometimes weird when people are just constantly staring at you.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: I
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_02: agree.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: And eyes are the gateway to the soul.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: So I always like to input them in my piece because It can mean anything, really.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, it's funny because with a lot of our pieces, people say, like, I have a signature.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_02: what that's I mean I guess I can sort of kind of see what they're saying is something with the stroke or something you know whatever and I'm like you know what maybe you're right you know maybe maybe you're right I don't I don't really know um but mine just has you know it's a lot of just what I feel in the moment I don't know um so you said there's like this reoccurring of eyes in your pieces right it's like in most in most instances or if not all instances you'll definitely see eyes in your artwork but I agree though you know eyes are a gateway to the soul.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know, this is why I really try my best to always look people in their eyes.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: It speaks.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: It says a lot, you know?
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_02: So that's excellent.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: So now your life, right?
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: Because, I mean, even though sometimes, and I think a lot of artists or creative people, we tend to do this where we dumbed down, right?
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: Or we just kind of like, okay.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: In other people's eyes, it's like, hello, wake up, wake up, sis.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like, do you understand what you just accomplished?
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like you were, I mean, on our professional journey, right?
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_02: As my illustrator, that's what Zyda is.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: You were 18 or you were turning 18 or something, you know, like, and I'm just like, who knows, Zyda, you want to do this for me?
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: And you're like...
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_02: No, but seriously, I mean, if you think about it at this point, you would technically, technically be like a published illustrator, you know, for two pieces to two, sorry, for two books rather.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then of course, you know, we have, well, it's going to be three soon and, you know, and it just continued.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, even how does that feel?
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, I know it's easy to bypass it, but it actually is a huge accomplishment.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like you're turning 20 in May.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, listen, there's some people who don't, you know, who don't accomplish those things until, you know, later in their life.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: And just to know that you're picking up speed.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, you've done, you know, work with me and you know that you're like my person, you know what I mean?
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like, so we will work together and be connected forever.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then you have other opportunities that are emerging as well.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, when you, when that, when that accomplishment, and it wasn't just my accomplishment, it was your accomplishment too, because girl, your name is all over copyrighted.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta make sure that you give honor where honor is due and pay homage.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: And so what did that feel like now that you're a published illustrator?
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: Does it feel like anything?
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: At first, it didn't really feel like anything.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: But the other day, mom had showed me the Just Like God book.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: And when I saw it, I was immediately hit with...
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: the wave of anticipation for what's next
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: yeah yeah because It's okay.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, my, our, our, our children, they are definitely a part of our interview.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: So it's okay.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: People understand we make this thing happen, but you know, it's funny because your mom, if she knows I'm going to big up your mother, I will always just love her.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_02: I tell her, thank you for birthing.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, but seriously, because you're a huge, just, you know, person in my life.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, She did.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_02: And it's true, though.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, wow, Zahida is real.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you may consider yourself to be a beginner, but I'm just saying like, wow, she really, really grew.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_02: And then even the book that's going to be coming out, whoa in august i was no i would when i tell you i was blown away i was like what because in my opinion it shows like this diversity right so sometimes as an artist or illustrator or a creator right you start with one thing and then it's so easy to just branch out and expand to other different things but as you said before it's all about inspiration it's all about you know like what's currently happening which And then it could be nothing's happening either, you know?
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: So it just, it just, it just all depends.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it was, I'm telling you, you're doing amazing.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: You're doing amazing work.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_02: You're welcome.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_02: I dare.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: Do you, do you have a mentor?
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I do have a mentor, actually.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: You have a mentor?
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: Her name is Sheba.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: Look, I didn't know you was going there.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_02: Look, thank you.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody else posted on Instagram was like, oh, my mentor.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, this is what I'm talking about.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: No, I'm kidding.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's amazing.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: I really appreciate that.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: But as far as art, let me reframe the question now.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: As far as art, do you think that it's necessary to have a art mentor so to speak or do you think that you know it's art you can just kind of flow you know what i mean or does it depend on um let's see or does it depend on where you see yourself you know or where you where you and if i can say envision your art to be i
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: i think it may
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: be
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: depend on the route that I choose.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: If I just choose to do random art, then I don't really, I think I might need a slight mentor, but with illustrations, I'm still fairly new to the game and it's sometimes difficult to think of what comes next with each page.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: So to have a mentor there would be nice.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's excellent.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well, okay.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: You know what?
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: Let's get to the question, right?
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: Because we said art speaks, art speaks.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: So in this present moment, right?
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_02: As an artist, as an illustrator, as a graphic designer, I mean, you're like, just your style in itself is art.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, seriously, you know, like, is that a dull moment from the hair up to the lisp?
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, this girl got it.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: For Zayida's art, just in general, just take a moment, take a moment to just think in general, maybe not a specific piece that you've done or something that's maybe brewing in the moment, but in general, Zayida's art, we say that it speaks.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: So what does Zayida's art, what does it speak?
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: What does it say or what does it have to say?
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: If you were to say to the world, this is what I want my art to say, what would you say?
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think, not I think, I just want my art to say, be free with what you do.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just better to have things free form without the constraints of reality and such.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: So if you can go outside the box, think outside the box because that's what I normally do.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: I
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: concur.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_02: I agree.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: As they say, Ashe, amen.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: And all of that other, all of those other good things.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: So great.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: So one last thing before we wrap it up.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_02: And again, I want to thank you so much for just being a part of Shiva Shares.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: You know, people ask me, well, why did you name it that?
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: Because we're sharing this time.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: We're sharing this space.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, just to share, this is what we're doing.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: You know, a lot of people, you know, are not aware and so this is just another tool to bring awareness on this international platform so now people across the world will literally know your name you know um and hopefully maybe maybe they may want to connect with you to do further work to um collaborate to do partnerships you know you just never know to teach a class you know you know you never know where the pieces to this puzzle called life, where it would lead you to.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_02: So as we wrap up, the only, the last thing that I would say is where can people find you?
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_02: Where can they find you meaning on social media?
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: Let's say if they did want to reach out to you, say, Hey, listen, Zyde, I have a book coming up and you know, I want to, I want to solicit your services.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: Where would they be able to find you?
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: Though I have not been on it.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: recently you can find me on instagram at one dry day 2.0 or even drier my facebook um which i think is also just one dry day no it's your first and last name oh it's my first and last name
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: completely forgot it's okay it's okay so say that one one more time so instagram is one one dry day 2.0 Okay, one drive, D-R-Y-D-A-Y 2.0, right?
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_02: Excellent.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_02: And or if you want to, you feel free to reach out to me on any of those platforms.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: They're all a part of, you know, the link and the link and website.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: If you want to connect with Zyda, which I highly, strongly, passionately love.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if excitedly, I don't know, whatever.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, so excited, just with great honor and respect for your art, for your energy, for your gifts, for your talent.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: I highly recommend her, even though she says she's a beginner, but listen, if beginners have phases than, hey, she's definitely far than, because I mean, it's not like a tree with little sticks and, you know, you're a little bit, you're a little bit past, I'm kidding, little birds with two little lines.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, we're not, that's beginner.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway, so yeah, so definitely if you want to solicit Zayden's business as an emerging illustrator, listen, if you have any opportunities for her, if you say, you know what, this girl can use a mentor, listen, you can find her again.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: on Instagram at dry1, sorry, 1dryday2.0 and or you can definitely hit me up and we will make that connection for you.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: So Zaida, my dear, thank you so much for being on Sheba Shares.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, it was an honor.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, art is just, as you know, one of my favorite things ever.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: And it was good just chatting and sharing this time, hearing what your art speaks to the world, which is freedom is fluid.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: Be you think outside the box, live outside the box, stay outside the box, you know, true to who you are.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you so much again for all the listeners.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you can definitely check us out at the divas, the divas that care network.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and if you want to be a guest, reach out to me, I would love to interview you on Shiba shares.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: Take care, everyone.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: Bye-bye.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for listening.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: This show was brought to you by Divas That Care.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: Connect with us on Facebook, on Instagram, and of course on DivasThatCare.com where you can subscribe to our newsletter so you don't miss a thing.