Latest / The APAJ Hard Charger Podcast / Algorithms Fueling Division, FBA VS. DBI Episode #3
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- 0:25SPEAKER_00: When confronted with hate, we as human beings sometimes fear the unknown or its outcome.
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: Beloved sisters and brothers, I'm an old schooler.
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: One who looks in life in a spiritual sense.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: I believe in the adage live and let live.
- 0:48SPEAKER_00: This episode is another effort that highlights the ongoing black-on-black differences that are continuing to be played out on social media feeds.
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: Nevertheless, we must believe in ourselves, not as self-haters or as the subject of being futile, but as the courageous leaders and as a desperate people with candor and civility.
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: Welcome.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: I am your host, APAJ, also known as Apache, and this is the APAJ Hard Charger Real Charl Podcast Show.
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: Today's episode is the third of the final series of three parts, which I was totally unaware of the FBA and the diaspora at odds.
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: Well, we'll cover five segments followed by my commentary.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: First one will be social media foundational black Americans and the diaspora of black immigrants.
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: So we would have also the social media that autonomic incentives.
- 2:24SPEAKER_00: What are they getting out of it?
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: The catering or tater rhetoric and propaganda.
- 2:32SPEAKER_00: America descendants of slavery, ADOS, diaspora, black immigrants, DBI, and economic contribution.
- 2:44SPEAKER_00: And of course, my commentary.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: So let us start with segment one.
- 2:49SPEAKER_00: There are several main ways that social media adds to the these tensions.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: Does social media in any way contribute to the tensions between the FBA and that of the DBI?
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: Now the DBI is a diaspora of black immigrants in their community, their families.
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: On YouTube, at least subjects that might be considered quite benign that can be removed.
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: But in general, the platforms are quite permissive and allow both the FBA and DBI communities to create their own space in their public eye.
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: Is this intentional or simply the way the platforms are?
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: The structure of the platforms combined with identity, politics, and economic dimensions provides a forum for open criticism.
- 3:55SPEAKER_00: There is a perception out there that the economy based on the DBI group is significant.
- 4:06SPEAKER_00: Whereas there are some who would say 5.1 million black immigrants in the United States, which is approximately, allegedly, I should say as well, 12% of the total blackslash African American population.
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: And to get this point, a large proportion of the DBI are considered well educated.
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: And in their prime working years, according to the Pew Research Center.
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: They noted that 79% of black immigrants in the United States have legal status.
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: Folks, this means that they have legal status such as being lawfully admitted to the United States.
- 4:54SPEAKER_00: Wood specific legal rights, protections, and duties under the Immigration and Nationality Act, better known as the INA.
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: How do I know?
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: Well, spent shy of four or five, six months of being an immigration official.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: So that's important to know.
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: So here's here's some key details I like to share with you about this FBA and D FBI's infighting.
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: That's what I call it.
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: As for the diaspora black immigrants having authorized status in the United States, again, it's around 79% and holding.
- 6:03SPEAKER_00: However, not all is gravy for them because based on my findings and my team knowing this immigration, there are some unauthorized status information.
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: For example, our study revealed that there are approximately, approximately 21% of black immigrants who are considered unauthorized or undocumented, which is less than 27% of the total U.S.
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: immigrant population.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: Again, the DBI population is about 5.1 to 5.6 million black immigrants who reside in the United States and make up between the 11.4 to 12% of the total black population.
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: Let's pause right there and say to ourselves, whoa, right?
- 6:59SPEAKER_00: Whoa.
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: And I and I'm a we just recently retired immigration person and personnel or former insider, put it that way.
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: Let's move on to a quick segment of section two, and this is basically talking about the social media and then authoric incentives.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: So have a question for everybody.
- 7:23SPEAKER_00: Do any of you think that based on the power of the of their algorithm, uh incentives, PAI, as you call it, is considered an outrage platform for profit?
- 7:36SPEAKER_00: I mean, with such social media platforms like TikTok, ex formerly Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube, some of you out there have mentioned that these organizations use well-vetted others and increase engagement by promoting contents that sparks anger, resentment, and outrage.
- 8:03SPEAKER_00: And if you agree with that or disagree with that, hey, at APAJ Hard Charges, uh, we have a YouTube, we have the Buzz Sprouts, and we out there.
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: Drop us, you know, a line or two and let us know what you feel about it.
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: Because I must admit, you know, I've been so tired up 42 years with federal government and combined armed forces and all that, and we had each other through.
- 8:30SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get to that.
- 8:31SPEAKER_00: So let's look at a small out-of-context and character, I might add, to be frank.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: I mean showing videos of African Americans or black Americans, FBA criticizing each other, right?
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: Or uh with the BI, DBI, which often, I mean, this is really deep, goes viral.
- 8:59SPEAKER_00: This can make it seem like there's more conflict than people experience in their daily life.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: I personally believe it's a joint clickbait scheme on both sides.
- 9:12SPEAKER_00: Some of some of the language, the vernacular, if you will, the things people say on both sides, if you check and balance and vet it, it's just out there.
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: You have to call it what it is, clickbait.
- 9:26SPEAKER_00: So please leave a real talk, a dark comments.
- 9:29SPEAKER_00: I don't entertain, you know, craziness.
- 9:32SPEAKER_00: I don't do crazy.
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: I really don't.
- 9:36SPEAKER_00: So let's be with gentlemen, ladies, you can agree to disagree.
- 9:41SPEAKER_00: Okay, now let's take a hard look at this delineation versus Pan-Africanism on YouTube and X discussions, which is seemly the FBA's entire framework.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: The term FBA began on the social media around 2019 as a hashtag to identify black Americans' descendants from U.S.
- 10:07SPEAKER_00: childhood slavery.
- 10:11SPEAKER_00: You know, and so setting them apart from black immigrants who arrived after 1965, allegedly.
- 10:20SPEAKER_00: However, it is said that an online figure, if I said his name, Nasheed, Nasheed, might be screwing that up, sorry, brother, have promoted this idea, if you will, using social media to push for delineation.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: Again, I'm all new with this.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: I wonder, did he contact the office?
- 10:44SPEAKER_00: I want you to hear me out, of management and budget, O and B, all right, federal agency.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 10:53SPEAKER_00: Well, based on our findings, the team I have, they handle all the recognition when it comes to those who want to be recognized in the United States.
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: This is why they have us down as, I kid you not, as black slash African Americans, of course, other groups as well.
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: So if you want to be recognized, you go through them.
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: And what they're doing now is charting and an agreement of federal agencies where they have to turn in by 2028 a list of, I guess, employees or whatever they're gonna forms they have.
- 11:30SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna get that wrong, and it'll all be looked at in 2028 and somehow they acted upon in 2029.
- 11:38SPEAKER_00: So you may have black people with multiple ethnicities.
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure if that's the case, but you can go out there and read it yourself.
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: So it's listed based on all the OMB's racial slash ethnic classification authority, whereas the Office of Management and Budget, OMB, does not have a specific statute that explicitly grant it the power to deny or recognition of a group as indigenous people of America.
- 12:11SPEAKER_00: Instead, its authority comes from administrative rules and federal policy directives that sets the categories the federal government uses for statistical administrative purposes.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: And I do believe that's how they summarize and characterize, right?
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: So let's take a pause here and elaborate.
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: The key legal policy sources is the us they are statistical policy directive number 15, issued by the OMB on May 12, 1977.
- 12:50SPEAKER_00: That's how long and later updated in 1994.
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: You see the variation.
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: It's the primary federal policy that standardized racial and ethnic categories for federal statistics and administrative reporting.
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: You would think that the Census Bureau would do this, right?
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: So this directive is not a law passed by Congress, but it is rather a binding federal policy because of the OMB is an executive agency responsible for coordinating federal data collection.
- 13:25SPEAKER_00: Very interesting.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: You are trying to be recognized maybe as FBA or Pan-Africanists or whatever, you know, ADOS.
- 13:42SPEAKER_00: Yet these people, individuals, uh have the say so.
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: They're not a big organization at all.
- 13:49SPEAKER_00: So let's move on to segment three: the titter or tittering rhetoric and propaganda.
- 13:56SPEAKER_00: Black's dictionary states that a titter is in modern online culture slang, tittering or calling someone a titter.
- 14:10SPEAKER_00: Most commonly refers to a person from a non-foundational black American, often a black immigrant or a person of another heritage who adopts claims or benefits from the uh FBA culture, civil rights history, or social political movement, such as reparations, without sharing that specific historical lineage.
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: Let me let me let me stop right here.
- 14:43SPEAKER_00: As as an immigration official who's know that this is just smoke, all right.
- 14:51SPEAKER_00: I I don't see this being a tangibility, credibility at all.
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: Just just a lot of propaganda and rhetoric.
- 15:02SPEAKER_00: And no disrespect to, you know, I I can follow FBA.
- 15:06SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm black, I'm an American, but I'm not gonna follow stupidity because you're gonna see what I'm saying as we go down here.
- 15:17SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 15:18SPEAKER_00: Key aspects of the slang term, its origins and polarization.
- 15:22SPEAKER_00: The term gained traction through, of course, online commentary and social media discussions associated with figures like Mr.
- 15:31SPEAKER_00: Nashi.
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: I hope I'm saying your name right, brother, no disrespect.
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: So this concept describes uh attaching one's present-day identity, community standard, or claims to the specific struggles and systemic achievements of black Americans while sometimes uh disassociating from or disrespecting.
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: Now, I have the foundation.
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: I agree with that.
- 16:01SPEAKER_00: If you come in our country and I don't care who you are, you disrespect us as black, white, red, yellow, and brown, you know, you don't need to be here.
- 16:13SPEAKER_00: Because that's not going to be tolerated and shouldn't be tolerated.
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: But that's not the problem.
- 16:20SPEAKER_00: So this tendering thing is not only, you know, I saw some change with a like a noose or something.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: I'm not quite sure what I was seeing.
- 16:28SPEAKER_00: I was like, what is this?
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: And then they say the black dictionary says go on about some cryptocurrency.
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: I mean, who who dug this up to use this as a catch-all or the premise for which they the the further rhetoric on social media?
- 16:46SPEAKER_00: The FBA supporters often use negative terms, you know, like tetering towards the DBI uh in his family.
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: But again, uh the DBI does the same.
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: You guys out there, and you know if you're an immigrant, there's certain things that you can't say, and I can only tell you now, those defenders, the new positions immigration have, they will be looking at your information online.
- 17:16SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if you think they're gonna just go get you right away.
- 17:22SPEAKER_00: I can tell you, as an insider, been there, done that.
- 17:27SPEAKER_00: Hey, stack whatever.
- 17:29SPEAKER_00: And it's all about you making these comments.
- 17:32SPEAKER_00: And some of these comments by the DBI, all right, that diaspora uh black immigrants, you make some crazy statements, unfounded.
- 17:43SPEAKER_00: If you want to know about black America, aka African American uh people, Smithsonian for African Americans, it's a slew of information out there.
- 17:53SPEAKER_00: You know, and and I just don't like people you guys should think that our the American black subculture is American mainstream.
- 18:02SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, and no, not at all.
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: I can assure you, I have nothing to do with that type of mess that's happening with our subcultures today.
- 18:16SPEAKER_00: So if that's what you're mixing up, I don't blame the FBA for being upset because that's not true.
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: A lot of them get up, go to work, and do what they have to do, just like every one of us.
- 18:27SPEAKER_00: So enough of the name calling all around the table.
- 18:31SPEAKER_00: They came, they claimed that black immigrants, they being, I'm assuming, the FBA, to be African Americans or economic or political reasons while secretly looking down on Native Black Americans.
- 18:48SPEAKER_00: So, in other words, you put this little, you know, this image that you are a part of the black American concept, but yet you look down.
- 19:00SPEAKER_00: I have never ever interviewed whatever you want to call it, anybody and that was black or looked black, even didn't want to be black, and said anything negative.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: Now you can say about black people.
- 19:19SPEAKER_00: Now you can say, well, use an authority predicament or position.
- 19:23SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
- 19:24SPEAKER_00: And I wouldn't have tolerated that, nor with my colleagues, even today.
- 19:28SPEAKER_00: I still got eyes and ears and reach.
- 19:30SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure they would say the same thing.
- 19:32SPEAKER_00: Well, no one has said that to us.
- 19:34SPEAKER_00: Is this infighting about reparations?
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: Who should get what?
- 19:39SPEAKER_00: I got a good feeling that no one is gonna get anything.
- 19:43SPEAKER_00: And all of this time, and I'm a elder, and I can tell you that right now.
- 19:46SPEAKER_00: I don't see if someone is not recognizing you, no matter what you are, pan-Africanist, FBA, ADOS, or whatever, chances are that's not gonna happen.
- 19:57SPEAKER_00: I hope it happened, and I have a little commentary if it does.
- 20:01SPEAKER_00: So the pan-Africanist or African backlash, yeah.
- 20:08SPEAKER_00: The critics and black immigrants creators respond to, of course, the pla these platforms the FBA shoots out, vice versa.
- 20:17SPEAKER_00: And they talk about xenophobia, right?
- 20:21SPEAKER_00: Uh, how FBA is encouraging that and the separation or separate whatever, you know, bathrooms or whatever.
- 20:29SPEAKER_00: I'm only joking, but that's what it sounds like.
- 20:31SPEAKER_00: It sounds like it's part of a 1950s and 60s all over again, but the these players are black.
- 20:38SPEAKER_00: And so from the global African liberation effort, debate over tangibles and reparations, all of this sounds like the so-called house Negro to me and the field Negro for lack of better terms.
- 20:55SPEAKER_00: Reflection, does this make sense?
- 20:59SPEAKER_00: Anyone hear this?
- 21:01SPEAKER_00: Does any of this make sense?
- 21:05SPEAKER_00: Whoa.
- 21:06SPEAKER_00: Let's move on to segment four.
- 21:09SPEAKER_00: American descendants of slavery.
- 21:12SPEAKER_00: I'll call them ADOS, ADOS.
- 21:15SPEAKER_00: Now comes the American descendants of slavery.
- 21:18SPEAKER_00: Whereas this group look at the resource allocation, social media has brought the U.S.
- 21:25SPEAKER_00: reparations debate into focus.
- 21:27SPEAKER_00: FBAs and similar groups like the ADOS, American uh descendant of slavery, I'm just gonna use the acronym, use hashtags like tangibilities to argue that political and financial platform benefits should go only to people who prove that they have direct descendants, they are the direct descendants from the U.S.
- 21:53SPEAKER_00: slavery.
- 21:54SPEAKER_00: Okay, who's gonna prove that?
- 21:57SPEAKER_00: You better hope it doesn't come from OMB, because they're not.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: Not trying to prove recognize you for who you are.
- 22:04SPEAKER_00: Folks, honestly, what do you think of all of this foolishness, all of this talk?
- 22:11SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm a military type guy, and I just don't see it.
- 22:16SPEAKER_00: So please leave us a real talk, adult comments.
- 22:22SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: I'm waiting for someone to say, hey, there's some exclusionary policies on YouTube and similar uh platforms people discuss having non-FBAs out of uh policy talks.
- 22:41SPEAKER_00: They argue including immigrant weaknesses, political power, and take resources from descendants of free men.
- 22:52SPEAKER_00: Really?
- 22:54SPEAKER_00: Well, don't mention that to a lot of immigration officials, right?
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: Because I don't think so.
- 23:03SPEAKER_00: Cultural grievances and podcast culture, the cultural wars, the rise of viral podcast panels has a worsened division.
- 23:15SPEAKER_00: Black American creators often share clips of black immigrants on TikTok or their podcast repeating negative stereotypical things like calling them lazy or saying they have no culture.
- 23:37SPEAKER_00: At the same time, the global uh popularity of Caribbean and African music fashion and food on social media, lest immigrants show pride in their culture.
- 23:49SPEAKER_00: Online, these celebrations can turn into arguments about history and influence, adding more attention.
- 23:59SPEAKER_00: All right, I'm gonna pause right there and I'm gonna say this.
- 24:02SPEAKER_00: That's because you don't, if you don't, you upset at immigrants and immigrants, you are upset at at the black Americans.
- 24:10SPEAKER_00: That's your fault on both sides.
- 24:14SPEAKER_00: I I've been I've been to Africa four times.
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: I lived in Europe, I've been to the islands, so I don't see any of this.
- 24:24SPEAKER_00: I hey, food smells good, I'm gonna eat it.
- 24:27SPEAKER_00: I'm a cultural person.
- 24:29SPEAKER_00: I love different cultures, especially when they look like me.
- 24:33SPEAKER_00: I've been that way all my life and always be that way.
- 24:37SPEAKER_00: We're not a monolithic people.
- 24:40SPEAKER_00: You the people live on your block, FBAs, don't like you.
- 24:46SPEAKER_00: The people on your block, Pan-Africanists, don't like you.
- 24:51SPEAKER_00: Do you understand?
- 24:53SPEAKER_00: It's not the culture, man.
- 24:56SPEAKER_00: Because games are not my culture.
- 24:58SPEAKER_00: I come domestic domestic terrorists, right?
- 25:01SPEAKER_00: We can go all the way over, seize, and kill so-called terrorists, but we can't do anything about what's happening here.
- 25:09SPEAKER_00: Not to say we can't, but it's like, hey, needle and haystack.
- 25:14SPEAKER_00: So where is this all of this?
- 25:17SPEAKER_00: Because I don't care if you speak, listen, you're black.
- 25:21SPEAKER_00: First and foremost, you're black.
- 25:24SPEAKER_00: You speak a different language, all right?
- 25:27SPEAKER_00: Your culture.
- 25:31SPEAKER_00: When I was in Ethiopia the first time, I remember seeing people, I'm thinking, you know, they from the same trial, but they're not.
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: Now, do are they to the to this point?
- 25:45SPEAKER_00: That's they're fighting for social and stratification and all of this other stuff, political.
- 25:51SPEAKER_00: Hey, isn't that what's happening right now?
- 25:53SPEAKER_00: But the bullets are not flying.
- 25:55SPEAKER_00: But you guys say in the military, you actually actually in a preparatory posture.
- 26:01SPEAKER_00: You guys better end this because it sounds like a Rwanda type thing.
- 26:07SPEAKER_00: 5.1 million DBIs or black immigrants.
- 26:14SPEAKER_00: Seriously, segment four.
- 26:17SPEAKER_00: The diaspora black immigrants, DBI, economic contribution.
- 26:23SPEAKER_00: Oh, we're gonna have to we're gonna have to look at this.
- 26:27SPEAKER_00: So the black immigrant population, we went over that, and the United States comprises roughly of 5.1 million to 5.6, right?
- 26:37SPEAKER_00: So the reason why it fluctuates like that, because the the I'm the type of person I go out and get some information.
- 26:44SPEAKER_00: I'm doing a research.
- 26:46SPEAKER_00: Certainly when I was doing my doctoral program, I I would like to get multiple leads and just don't stick with one, right?
- 26:55SPEAKER_00: And it can be time consuming, but sometimes I may agree with an opinion, and if you drop drop that down, then you find out, oh, that was there was a contrary, right?
- 27:07SPEAKER_00: So you want to be able to make sure you get multiple, you know, readings on what you're looking for, the type of data you're trying to collect.
- 27:16SPEAKER_00: So again, it's accounting for 12% of the black total population, these DBIs, all right.
- 27:26SPEAKER_00: So, and well educated and disproportionately prime working age demographics.
- 27:34SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 27:35SPEAKER_00: So, what about the annual GDP contribution from the DBI?
- 27:40SPEAKER_00: The broader economic footprint of the black immigrants helps generate approximately 180 billion to 200 billion annually, and overall, that's a lot of money, folks, right?
- 27:56SPEAKER_00: Economic output.
- 27:58SPEAKER_00: So, annual spending power after tax uh base income, the standalone spending power of the DBI community sits at approximately 140 billion.
- 28:11SPEAKER_00: You know, Uncle Sam won't get his right.
- 28:13SPEAKER_00: And that their tax contribution, they contribute roughly$35 billion in federal and payroll, right?
- 28:22SPEAKER_00: Taxes and$25 billion in state.
- 28:27SPEAKER_00: And wow, and local taxes.
- 28:30SPEAKER_00: That's interesting, isn't it?
- 28:32SPEAKER_00: Annually, workforce anchor, roughly 3.5 million DBI individuals are actively in the workforce.
- 28:41SPEAKER_00: They are highly concentrated in crucial high-demand sectors.
- 28:46SPEAKER_00: For example, nearly 30% of the subharin African immigrants work in healthcare, providing heavy stability to the U.S.
- 28:57SPEAKER_00: medical infrastructure.
- 28:59SPEAKER_00: You see that, right?
- 29:00SPEAKER_00: You go into the hospitals now, young Nigerian sisters, you know, oncologists and heart specialists and all these, not just regular MDs, right?
- 29:13SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 29:14SPEAKER_00: So let's look at the homegrown foundational black Americans.
- 29:19SPEAKER_00: And I I don't like, because I'm not an FBA by no means.
- 29:25SPEAKER_00: But I'm going to say this to those DBIs.
- 29:31SPEAKER_00: You need to really recognize black people here in America, you know, we we have set an example at the same time we have destroyed that example.
- 29:45SPEAKER_00: Just like in your countries or your islands.
- 29:47SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 29:48SPEAKER_00: So you have to understand you guys talking on both, you know, ends of this issue and both have the same systemic issues back home or here in America.
- 29:59SPEAKER_00: Similar in likes, as we used to say, in a union.
- 30:03SPEAKER_00: So as a historical lineage uh base of Black America Foundation, make up vast majority, roughly 88% of the 48 million black people living in the United States.
- 30:16SPEAKER_00: No joke.
- 30:18SPEAKER_00: Because most economies and their data sets, the information they extrapolate, they collect African American demographics, FBAs, figures, and it's drawing from a major share of total black domestic metrics.
- 30:36SPEAKER_00: Imagine that.
- 30:39SPEAKER_00: So the annual GDP contribution of homegrown black Americans, I'm saying it like that for a reason, and their contribution estimated at 1.8 trillion.
- 30:50SPEAKER_00: You hear me?
- 30:50SPEAKER_00: With the T, big T to$1.9 trillion annually.
- 30:55SPEAKER_00: Now I know some people say it's going to$2.1 or$2.2 trillion by year's end.
- 31:02SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
- 31:03SPEAKER_00: So this is to the U.S.
- 31:05SPEAKER_00: gross product domestic product.
- 31:08SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 31:09SPEAKER_00: So annually spending power, buying power, the standalone spending power of native, indigenous black people.
- 31:18SPEAKER_00: I have a problem with that word to indigenous to the United States.
- 31:24SPEAKER_00: Although I, you know, I is that based on these so-called Native American, which I have blood, more than less than 10, but quite close.
- 31:34SPEAKER_00: Black food and Cherokee, but I'm black, first and foremost.
- 31:38SPEAKER_00: So Americans says at approximately 1.96 trillion.
- 31:43SPEAKER_00: So the market drives FBA consumers, historically dictates mainstream global and domestic uh market trends, right?
- 31:53SPEAKER_00: They act as primary indicators or economic drivers in industries like entertainment, digital uh commerce, beauty, of course.
- 32:03SPEAKER_00: We beautiful people, streetwear, fashion, and media, right?
- 32:08SPEAKER_00: So labor force, the FBA community spans every standard industry sector of the domestic uh economy, holding a massive footprint in transportation, public, administration, education, and heavy manufacturing.
- 32:26SPEAKER_00: So the synopsis part of this, the joint spending power, you better believe it, force when the domestic cultural leverage of FBA and the high earnings workforce traits of the DBI unite.
- 32:42SPEAKER_00: The combined economic force of black America, regardless to what side of the table you want to call yourself, is staggering.
- 32:53SPEAKER_00: Wake up.
- 32:55SPEAKER_00: Wake up.
- 32:57SPEAKER_00: All right, y'all acting foolish, immature, childish, like you're black.
- 33:07SPEAKER_00: It doesn't make a difference the Turan you are traveling through or living on.
- 33:13SPEAKER_00: You're black.
- 33:14SPEAKER_00: You know how I know?
- 33:16SPEAKER_00: Because I'm black.
- 33:20SPEAKER_00: And an mixture of some of everything.
- 33:22SPEAKER_00: And a shout out to my Nigerian brothers, I'm 76% of Nigerian blood, some Cameroon blood.
- 33:29SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
- 33:29SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, I got that European, you know, thing too.
- 33:32SPEAKER_00: But that wasn't consensual, was it?
- 33:35SPEAKER_00: You 1526, you know that.
- 33:38SPEAKER_00: All right?
- 33:39SPEAKER_00: You 1619, Johnson, know that.
- 33:42SPEAKER_00: The DBI spending power, 140 billion, plus the FBA spending power, 1.96 trillion.
- 33:55SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's some money, baby.
- 33:57SPEAKER_00: There you go, equals 2.1 trillion buying power of you blacks combined.
- 34:05SPEAKER_00: Could you imagine the 14th or 15th global economy?
- 34:11SPEAKER_00: Combined.
- 34:12SPEAKER_00: Can you do this as a standalone?
- 34:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 34:15SPEAKER_00: DBI, look at Russia and China's budget.
- 34:19SPEAKER_00: And let me elaborate on this.
- 34:22SPEAKER_00: If treated as a standalone nation, 2.1 trillion in annual buying power would rank 15th.
- 34:31SPEAKER_00: Some some our findings will say as 14 of the world's economy.
- 34:36SPEAKER_00: It's 195 countries, folks.
- 34:40SPEAKER_00: Are we the 196 combined?
- 34:45SPEAKER_00: Because here's what's happening.
- 34:47SPEAKER_00: Those DBUIs are going to become citizens sooner or later.
- 34:50SPEAKER_00: So they're going to fall into that pool because that's a ratio of those who are immigrants slash who became citizens.
- 35:00SPEAKER_00: So that money is going where?
- 35:03SPEAKER_00: I hear a young brother on social media outlet, and he was talking about, you know, I think it was YouTube.
- 35:10SPEAKER_00: Well, we got this and we got that.
- 35:13SPEAKER_00: Well, where is it?
- 35:15SPEAKER_00: Show me the money.
- 35:16SPEAKER_00: What are we doing with it?
- 35:18SPEAKER_00: But giving it back or giving it away.
- 35:20SPEAKER_00: Got enough man to build our own empire.
- 35:24SPEAKER_00: Man in the mirror, woman in the mirror.
- 35:26SPEAKER_00: You don't like each other because you don't like yourselves, probably.
- 35:31SPEAKER_00: That's been the outcome.
- 35:32SPEAKER_00: Most people, if you kill somebody who looks like you, I'm not advocating you go out and kill somebody that don't look like you, but that means you don't like yourself.
- 35:40SPEAKER_00: You can take a young sister and a young brother or an elderly or a baby's life rob, right?
- 35:47SPEAKER_00: Kill, murder, whatever.
- 35:50SPEAKER_00: You don't like yourself.
- 35:51SPEAKER_00: You can't.
- 35:53SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna go kill yourself?
- 35:56SPEAKER_00: You kill innocent, you rob innocent?
- 35:59SPEAKER_00: Does that happen in a diaspora?
- 36:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 36:02SPEAKER_00: United States?
- 36:03SPEAKER_00: Of course it does.
- 36:05SPEAKER_00: Europe and every Asia, everywhere else.
- 36:08SPEAKER_00: 2.1 trillion in annual buying power.
- 36:12SPEAKER_00: Ranked the 15th largest economy in the entire world.
- 36:17SPEAKER_00: Well, folks, this collective spending force places us.
- 36:23SPEAKER_00: Us.
- 36:25SPEAKER_00: I'm a pan-Africanist to the heart.
- 36:28SPEAKER_00: All right?
- 36:30SPEAKER_00: American born and raised, serve my country, love my country.
- 36:34SPEAKER_00: But I'm gonna love, I don't like calling it Africa.
- 36:37SPEAKER_00: You you brothers know you're not real Africans, and we are not real African Americans.
- 36:43SPEAKER_00: People giving us those names.
- 36:46SPEAKER_00: All right?
- 36:47SPEAKER_00: So we have it.
- 36:48SPEAKER_00: It's sending us together.
- 36:52SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're saying genetically there's an 84% percentage of our connection with Africa or Ekabulin or Ecoboan.
- 37:03SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't, I don't, I get that.
- 37:06SPEAKER_00: But we don't act like it.
- 37:08SPEAKER_00: Because right now we're on the verge of stupidity.
- 37:12SPEAKER_00: The white European American racists, I'm not talking about my sisters, or brothers, white sisters and brothers who are not, they are loving this fight.
- 37:23SPEAKER_00: They're eating steak.
- 37:26SPEAKER_00: I mean, you guys are doing the best PR they could ever run.
- 37:32SPEAKER_00: And you bragging about 2.1 or 1.9 or whatever trillion dollars, but where's the money?
- 37:40SPEAKER_00: Why do we have homelessness, black homelessness?
- 37:44SPEAKER_00: Why do we have our black children, you know, unnourished?
- 37:52SPEAKER_00: Why do we have illiteracy?
- 37:56SPEAKER_00: A brother was talking about some, I believe, I don't know if the other, you know, FBA was talking about some African brother who he seemed to be African, and was talking about some linguistic issue and all of this.
- 38:11SPEAKER_00: And I was saying to myself, what are you talking about?
- 38:14SPEAKER_00: I don't want to put his name out there, but brother, I sent you something.
- 38:17SPEAKER_00: Read that, okay?
- 38:19SPEAKER_00: Because that's like I I I feel you on some things, but the that that answer you gave was total disconnect.
- 38:29SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 38:30SPEAKER_00: So we're moving down the line here.
- 38:33SPEAKER_00: This collective spending force places us ahead of the entire gross domestic product of oh my goodness.
- 38:44SPEAKER_00: All right, a sovereign nations like Saudi Arabia, don't they have a lot of oil?
- 38:49SPEAKER_00: South Korea, Spain, Australia.
- 38:53SPEAKER_00: It's intuitional and commercial leverage.
- 38:57SPEAKER_00: Underserved market.
- 39:01SPEAKER_00: It's just crazy.
- 39:04SPEAKER_00: So major consulting institutions, not that black consumers represent a massive 300 billion underserved market opportunities.
- 39:15SPEAKER_00: Companies that deliberately build and tailor equitable solutions for dual demographic, see instance, explosive growth.
- 39:25SPEAKER_00: Run, but you can't hide.
- 39:28SPEAKER_00: At the six-hour leverage paradox, currently, the primary economic challenge is retention.
- 39:36SPEAKER_00: Remember, I say where's the money?
- 39:39SPEAKER_00: That indicates that 98% of the black dollar leaves the community within just just six hours.
- 39:51SPEAKER_00: Six hours and our money's gone.
- 39:56SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 39:57SPEAKER_00: Of being earned.
- 39:59SPEAKER_00: The power of a one percent shift because the joint capital base is so in immense it shifts.
- 40:12SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 40:12SPEAKER_00: Shifting just one percent of this collective two point one trillion spending power or twenty-one billion to intentionally recirculate within the black owned institutions and banks, systems, and real estate developers, networks would generate hundreds of thousands of jobs and immediately close historical wealth gaps.
- 40:43SPEAKER_00: Do you guys understand what I'm saying?
- 40:49SPEAKER_00: Despite online messaging driving divisions, the numbers of, you know, demonstrated that the FBA and the DBI and ADOS, you know, populations are twin engines of a singular massive economic powerhouse.
- 41:07SPEAKER_00: I got commentary.
- 41:11SPEAKER_00: Yes, I have commentary.
- 41:13SPEAKER_00: Who?
- 41:16SPEAKER_00: All right, based on the fives, letter W's, plus that H, you know, who, what, where, when, why, and how.
- 41:26SPEAKER_00: Apache, me, APAJ Hard Charger, real talk broke as you.
- 41:33SPEAKER_00: I want to know who are considered black OB in America, Subharan African ancestries.
- 41:46SPEAKER_00: This is the largest part, usually making up 73 to 70 to 82, and I read 84.
- 41:55SPEAKER_00: What happened to those sisters and brothers back in 1526 whose descendants were among other enslaved Africans who fought and died against their oppressors?
- 42:09SPEAKER_00: Who what, when, where, why, and how?
- 42:12SPEAKER_00: Where the Maroons of Jamaica, Suriname, and other Caribbean regions show the same core patterns of resistance, several and adaptations as early black communities in the north move and travel about.
- 42:32SPEAKER_00: Historical facts that the same ancestral, historical foundation with shared ancestral and historical foundations, so they it's no similar life, they are the same.
- 42:48SPEAKER_00: When our story in history has suggested that Africans participated in the 1526, I don't want to screw this name up, San Miguel, they got that G-U-A-L-D-A-P-E.
- 43:04SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, if I butchered that, the revolt of rebellion, and those who established the Maroon communities in Jamaica, such as the Windward and the Leeward Maroons, came from the same West and Central African regions.
- 43:24SPEAKER_00: So they arrived together.
- 43:27SPEAKER_00: And all hell broke loose, and people, you know, fighting and killing and trying to survive, and they said, Well, we're gonna go down this road, or we're going over here.
- 43:37SPEAKER_00: And they did they done just that.
- 43:39SPEAKER_00: So they was here.
- 43:42SPEAKER_00: All right, Lavron Bennett before the Mayflower 1865, interesting book to this day.
- 43:48SPEAKER_00: He's no longer with us, but the brother, I remember that book, you know, that that is that was hey, that that was profound, how he registered things.
- 44:00SPEAKER_00: In that book.
- 44:01SPEAKER_00: So we're talking about these people was transported along the same transatlantic enslaved trade, you know, personal trade routes.
- 44:13SPEAKER_00: In fact, history shows that both groups aggressively oppose enslavement by fleeing into intriguing ecosystems such as the swamp lands down in the deep South America.
- 44:31SPEAKER_00: And for those not acquainted with this part of our story that we're talking about, the areas like Jamaica, mountainous regions, you know, they form alliances and also fought against those indigenous people.
- 44:49SPEAKER_00: Could you imagine that?
- 44:52SPEAKER_00: And ultimately, populated and established autonomous, self-governing societies, much like what's happening in the United States territories at that time, right?
- 45:07SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 45:09SPEAKER_00: Well, the European colonial borders were fluid, allowing people and ideas to move.
- 45:16SPEAKER_00: The 1526 expedition in South Carolina, for example, originated in the Caribbean, specifically Hispaniola.
- 45:28SPEAKER_00: Let's be mindful of the that historic fact and you know about the colonizers, right?
- 45:37SPEAKER_00: And what has been ha had happened in the United States, Brazil, Central, South America, the Korean, uh, Caribbeans, I should say.
- 45:49SPEAKER_00: Those are people.
- 45:53SPEAKER_00: And because they didn't want to stay in this Turan and move on, and they fought on their way out.
- 46:00SPEAKER_00: I'm sure they had left families here, and I'm sure they have descendants here.
- 46:07SPEAKER_00: Don't you think?
- 46:08SPEAKER_00: Doesn't that make sense?
- 46:11SPEAKER_00: I I I just don't get you guys that's out there on social media tearing each other apart for what reason.
- 46:20SPEAKER_00: So, the how did all of these people set out to misguide us with their issues on social media platforms?
- 46:30SPEAKER_00: Did they just do that to clickbait, whatever you they call it, and forget about what would happen as a result if some crazy on both sides get to go out there and do crazy things?
- 46:47SPEAKER_00: Did they forget?
- 46:50SPEAKER_00: Well, they shouldn't.
- 46:52SPEAKER_00: Because we are tied up.
- 46:55SPEAKER_00: It's okay to be black FBA or Pan-Africanist or whatever you want to be.
- 47:02SPEAKER_00: You're black.
- 47:04SPEAKER_00: All right, the Achilles, everything says about you, you're black.
- 47:10SPEAKER_00: You may not want to be the man and woman in the mirror syndrome.
- 47:14SPEAKER_00: You don't want to see yourself, but you are.
- 47:20SPEAKER_00: I don't want to be a pessimist about this, but reparations, they don't care if you're light complexed, dark complexed, right?
- 47:30SPEAKER_00: They don't care if you're male or female, gay or straight, you know, skinny or large, they don't care, man.
- 47:43SPEAKER_00: But here's what I would do if I had leadership and I was seeking for our people, I would ask for reparation, and not in a monetary sense, because I know they're not going to try to give that to us.
- 47:54SPEAKER_00: That type, you know, go around.
- 47:58SPEAKER_00: Because of who want to admit that their ancestors was a part of crimes against humanity?
- 48:05SPEAKER_00: Isn't that what the United Nations declared?
- 48:09SPEAKER_00: Our sisters and brothers out in Ghana with that initiative, as others.
- 48:14SPEAKER_00: So, how about higher education, trade facilities, scientists explorations in sickle cell anemia, cancer, obesity, heart disease, free education for up until you get to at least your bachelor's?
- 48:32SPEAKER_00: Huh?
- 48:32SPEAKER_00: How about that?
- 48:35SPEAKER_00: So that's what I would be asking for, and more.
- 48:40SPEAKER_00: Here's what Brother Brown, you know, peace be upon him, who was under uh President Clinton, he was the uh Secretary of Congress.
- 48:50SPEAKER_00: You know, he was a military guy like myself.
- 48:53SPEAKER_00: I'm enlisted and he was a captain, I believe.
- 48:57SPEAKER_00: But Mr.
- 48:57SPEAKER_00: Brown was trying to do something tremendous.
- 49:01SPEAKER_00: Could you imagine if he was living today and he had that type of tenacity to him about the trade, investment mission he was on?
- 49:09SPEAKER_00: A lot of people said because he was trying to draw ties with South Africa and other parts of the diaspora, that you know, he met his demise.
- 49:19SPEAKER_00: I can't say one way or another I wasn't there.
- 49:22SPEAKER_00: But to know that South Africa and Senegal was on his radar with business transactions, you know, he played a major role in the with the United States keeping the door open for companies to re-enter and invest in South Africa immediately after their part-time.
- 49:41SPEAKER_00: So the fact that this brother didn't, you know, utter a word that he felt that he was African-American and he had no connections to Africa, but he was a strong advocate of the growth because he sees what I see in a lot of us see working together, not fighting each other with that type of spending purse.
- 50:09SPEAKER_00: Hell, where's the leaders?
- 50:11SPEAKER_00: Call them eating.
- 50:13SPEAKER_00: But get rid of those people who, first of all, can't talk, throw out stupid stuff, no research, no premise whatsoever, just violently going after one another.
- 50:26SPEAKER_00: Now I'm talking about on both sides.
- 50:29SPEAKER_00: I'm not anti-FBA or anti-DBI.
- 50:34SPEAKER_00: I'm anti-both of you when it comes to hating yourselves.
- 50:39SPEAKER_00: That's crazy, man.
- 50:42SPEAKER_00: And you as in the military, you know what I'm talking about.
- 50:45SPEAKER_00: Numbers.
- 50:47SPEAKER_00: If some of these crazies get together, you know, Klu Kluck Clans, Aryan Nation, Supremacy and stuff, and you kicking out each other, who you gonna call?
- 50:57SPEAKER_00: You're gonna knock on Africa's door and say, we need help.
- 51:01SPEAKER_00: Where's your ships?
- 51:03SPEAKER_00: They more closer to things than we are.
- 51:07SPEAKER_00: Look around you in your neighborhoods.
- 51:10SPEAKER_00: Huh?
- 51:11SPEAKER_00: National Guards.
- 51:13SPEAKER_00: Where where what do we have?
- 51:16SPEAKER_00: You think you have those little pop guns on the street?
- 51:19SPEAKER_00: You think that's gonna stop if that ever happened?
- 51:23SPEAKER_00: But you are going at each other, raggedy, being accusatory, inappropriate behavior.
- 51:33SPEAKER_00: Children are listening to this.
- 51:36SPEAKER_00: People feel that they can't be have pride and be black anymore.
- 51:41SPEAKER_00: What European is talking about they hate Europe.
- 51:45SPEAKER_00: What European is walking around right now, a European American is walking around.
- 51:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can say that, right?
- 51:51SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna call me African American, I'll call you European American.
- 51:53SPEAKER_00: You know, just respect, much love, much respect is given it as it is received.
- 51:59SPEAKER_00: Folks, I'm just that type of guy.
- 52:01SPEAKER_00: All right?
- 52:02SPEAKER_00: I've been that way all my career, you know, in the armed forces as well as the Department of Defense, U.S.
- 52:08SPEAKER_00: Customs, Legacy, INS, and CIS.
- 52:12SPEAKER_00: So I make no qualms about how I am and the way I look at things.
- 52:17SPEAKER_00: Not to say they're the best, but I'm on the winning teams.
- 52:20SPEAKER_00: And the winning teams is the FBA, the winning teams is the uh Pan-Africanists, DBI.
- 52:28SPEAKER_00: Those are the winning teams, the real leaders.
- 52:32SPEAKER_00: All right?
- 52:33SPEAKER_00: Not just trumped up, fabigated, because some fabigated bull crap that somebody feels that they can get some little money from YouTube if they keep up the rhetoric and the propaganda's nonsense.
- 52:48SPEAKER_00: I don't get it.
- 52:52SPEAKER_00: I would love to talk to someone.
- 52:53SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna debate me.
- 52:56SPEAKER_00: I've been following black concepts all my life, and I've been on this earth for decades.
- 53:02SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna debate you about your blackness, whether you feel you don't want to be black, then whatever.
- 53:10SPEAKER_00: You know the logic of you telling certain people that uh, and I mean this on both sides of the aisle, that they're not black enough or cultural, you know, whatever, and that whatever it is.
- 53:25SPEAKER_00: And at the same time, if that person, European racist person, American racist, and I'm not saying all white people are all white people are racist, but I'm saying if they attack you, you think they're gonna ask you to pull out a card and see if you're FBA or a DBI?
- 53:45SPEAKER_00: Do you honestly think they're gonna do that?
- 53:48SPEAKER_00: Seriously?
- 53:49SPEAKER_00: They're not gonna do that, sisters and brothers, they're not gonna do that.
- 53:52SPEAKER_00: They're gonna kill you like they would kill any other one of us.
- 53:57SPEAKER_00: Sadly so.
- 53:59SPEAKER_00: And I hope they get their mess together because we're not going anywhere.
- 54:04SPEAKER_00: This is our country.
- 54:07SPEAKER_00: You know, and another thing I've been noticing how this temperament is going between the blacks on YouTube and stuff about, you know, the blacks against the whites and all that stuff.
- 54:21SPEAKER_00: Man, man, man, this is why other countries, I should say, get so upset, you know, at the fact that we can't get our mess together.
- 54:33SPEAKER_00: And what I mean by that, well, they can't do business with us, or we in fighting.
- 54:39SPEAKER_00: So the easiest thing to do, in my humble opinion, is come to a conference table.
- 54:47SPEAKER_00: Who's gonna get what?
- 54:49SPEAKER_00: Well, how FBAs, how are you gonna what are they gonna give you that they're not gonna give anybody else?
- 54:55SPEAKER_00: Or DBIs, what do you think you deserve that that uh the FBAs think you you shouldn't have?
- 55:04SPEAKER_00: I mean, I just read some historical facts that if it's true or not, hey, like I said, the fact that if you got that type of spending, Perge, you don't need that money.
- 55:18SPEAKER_00: You're making money now.
- 55:20SPEAKER_00: We're doing what do you need as leaders?
- 55:23SPEAKER_00: Leaders who can sit down and pull us up by our bootstraps out of this mess.
- 55:28SPEAKER_00: Did you hear not hear 14 to 15 percent of the ranking files, nations?
- 55:35SPEAKER_00: Black immigrants alone with China and Russia and United States, your your, I mean, look at the spinning purse.
- 55:42SPEAKER_00: You think I got a slew of uh citations?
- 55:46SPEAKER_00: So if anyone would challenge that, if those citations are wrong, then hey, but I can tell you something, I don't operate without them.
- 55:55SPEAKER_00: So I say to you, all of us, let's stop the fighting, let's get on our off our high ends and start talking about, okay, sister, okay, brother, you know, let's come to a common ground.
- 56:14SPEAKER_00: What do you think we can do with this money?
- 56:17SPEAKER_00: So you got to look up where's the money?
- 56:21SPEAKER_00: Six hours after you drive from your house to give all your money away elsewhere, right?
- 56:31SPEAKER_00: Giving your money away to elsewhere.
- 56:35SPEAKER_00: Man, you know how many malls we could have.
- 56:41SPEAKER_00: I don't want nobody identify our people just as entertainers and all of that.
- 56:46SPEAKER_00: You good at what we do regardless of what we do.
- 56:50SPEAKER_00: You know, the fact that you got some people, and this is my opinion, and my opinion alone, who love that type of, you know, vernacular.
- 57:00SPEAKER_00: All we do is, you know, how we do it and all of that.
- 57:04SPEAKER_00: You know, you can get on social media and call yourself the N-word, you know, with impunity.
- 57:13SPEAKER_00: This is crazy.
- 57:16SPEAKER_00: This is really madness in 2026 going into 2027.
- 57:21SPEAKER_00: Can we make 2027 with that projectory of 2.1 or$2.2 trillion of combined effort between the DBI and the FBAs?
- 57:34SPEAKER_00: Because there's some people within both parties don't agree with you.
- 57:40SPEAKER_00: I don't care how you say, well, the immigrants we've done, black immigrants or immigrants in general, we've done so much.
- 57:46SPEAKER_00: Uh we're talking about black people now, right?
- 57:48SPEAKER_00: Ow.
- 57:50SPEAKER_00: They're not gonna care.
- 57:52SPEAKER_00: Because they're gonna say that foolishness you guys carried out on, you know, you think I'm on social media, I'm gonna put my monies into that, my hard-earned money.
- 58:03SPEAKER_00: You can't speak for everybody.
- 58:05SPEAKER_00: You both sides of you guys, stop this generalization and polarization.
- 58:09SPEAKER_00: You're speaking well, black people.
- 58:11SPEAKER_00: No, no, you don't ask me.
- 58:12SPEAKER_00: That's like what white people used to say.
- 58:15SPEAKER_00: European Americans, they will say this, well, you know, generalizing us, and we get upset at that, right?
- 58:23SPEAKER_00: Don't do that to each other.
- 58:24SPEAKER_00: And it's really sickening when it comes from us, right?
- 58:28SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm gonna tell you this.
- 58:30SPEAKER_00: My hour is up.
- 58:32SPEAKER_00: I really appreciate you.
- 58:34SPEAKER_00: Much respect is given as it is received.
- 58:37SPEAKER_00: I'm new at this podcast thing.
- 58:40SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be doing some shows with immigration about immigration, uh, interviewing some retirees and people who walked away from immigration.
- 58:48SPEAKER_00: Stay tuned for that.
- 58:50SPEAKER_00: And know that if you love yourself, you can love anyone.
- 58:56SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 58:56SPEAKER_00: This is APAJ, better known as Apache.
- 58:59SPEAKER_00: Take care of yourself, be safe, and until next time, peace.