Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 17 November
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- 0:11Speaker 1: Is the bold reform it.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Tonight the Albany's of Government's Britney Higgins cover up now
- 0:17Speaker 2: protecting Labour's mean girls and China's new robot weapon robot Wolves,
- 0:24Speaker 2: and why they should scare Australians. And in Victoria another
- 0:29Speaker 2: Liberal leader bites the dust and how much longer will
- 0:32Speaker 2: Federal leader Susan Lee last? But first I've got to
- 0:38Speaker 2: say the Prime Minister was right. Today. Voters do now
- 0:42Speaker 2: have a choice. It's between the divided Liberals with a
- 0:47Speaker 2: new record low in the polls today and all over
- 0:50Speaker 2: the shop over global warming policy, or on the other hand,
- 0:55Speaker 2: a labor government absolutely united behind a target of slashing
- 0:59Speaker 2: aromas since the net zero by twenty fifty.
- 1:03Speaker 3: They've got this, this blomonde, this mess. My government has
- 1:08Speaker 3: one policy now.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Alben Easy obviously thinks that's an obvious choice and is
- 1:14Speaker 2: wrong because I put the choice like this. On the
- 1:17Speaker 2: one hand, you have the divided Liberals struggling to ditch yes,
- 1:20Speaker 2: a disastrous policy that will ruin Australia. And on the
- 1:24Speaker 2: other you have a labor government absolutely determined to give
- 1:27Speaker 2: it to us good and hard, and then you united
- 1:29Speaker 2: behind wanting to do that that's frightening. Now it's true
- 1:34Speaker 2: to the Liberals that yes they are in a mess
- 1:36Speaker 2: and facing massive attacks, including hysterical ones from the ABC.
- 1:40Speaker 2: I'll show you that later for deciding to ditch the
- 1:42Speaker 2: net zero target. And let's start with that side of
- 1:46Speaker 2: the issue before we look at something Labour's Penny Wong
- 1:50Speaker 2: said yesterday that explains everything about why it still is
- 1:53Speaker 2: a labor not the Liberals who are the greatest danger
- 1:57Speaker 2: to our future. Now today red Bridge poll confirmed everything
- 2:01Speaker 2: the newspoll said two weeks ago. The Liberals down to
- 2:05Speaker 2: a new record low, humiliating of just twenty four percent
- 2:09Speaker 2: of the vote. Can you look at one nation up
- 2:12Speaker 2: so much to a record eighteen percent, that's twice the
- 2:15Speaker 2: Green support and at a level now rivaling the coalition. Now,
- 2:22Speaker 2: the key problem for the Liberals seems to me not
- 2:26Speaker 2: that it's stitching that zero, much as many on the
- 2:28Speaker 2: left will want that to believe that, because the voters
- 2:32Speaker 2: that it's lost seem to switch directly to one Nation
- 2:35Speaker 2: which is even harder on that zero and mass immigration
- 2:39Speaker 2: as well. Now the Liberals Achilles Heels obviously the division
- 2:45Speaker 2: and the voter's turning right off. Opposition leader Susan Lee,
- 2:49Speaker 2: who's a nice woman but unfortunately has no cut through
- 2:52Speaker 2: or authority. I mean, she struggled today to even drive
- 2:55Speaker 2: in a screw properly, which is sort of like was symbolic. Meanwhile,
- 3:00Speaker 2: the papers, of course are full of talk that of
- 3:03Speaker 2: some of her left wing supporters in the Liberals switching
- 3:06Speaker 2: to the very conservative Andrew Hasty instead is the new leader. Hasty,
- 3:11Speaker 2: of course being the sas captain. Look, he still lacks polish,
- 3:15Speaker 2: still has improved. He can argue fluently on economics, for instance,
- 3:19Speaker 2: or without snapping at reporters, but at least he is
- 3:21Speaker 2: a fresh face. Now, this report about the move to Hasty,
- 3:28Speaker 2: it was so damaging that two other liberal left wingers
- 3:31Speaker 2: who support that's the faction that supports Lee and Rusten
- 3:35Speaker 2: and Maria Kovsick issued a press release, both claiming the
- 3:38Speaker 2: report was wrong but unfortunate, at the same time confirming
- 3:41Speaker 2: it by saying Lee's factions strongly supported her leadership, only
- 3:46Speaker 2: to qualify it by saying, well, a majority of a
- 3:48Speaker 2: faction at least, So that's all the mess, and it's
- 3:52Speaker 2: going to stay a mess, I'm afraid for a long
- 3:56Speaker 2: while until, of course Hasty or the other Conservative challenge
- 3:59Speaker 2: anger Taylor, who was out there on the weekend promoting
- 4:02Speaker 2: himself unless one of their ends leads misery with a challenge,
- 4:07Speaker 2: which I don't think they'll want to do for a
- 4:09Speaker 2: little while because they're blokes and it's probably safer to
- 4:13Speaker 2: let the liberals first woman leader fail under her own
- 4:18Speaker 2: steam without some man cutting her down before her time.
- 4:25Speaker 2: But that wasn't Lee's only problem today. Mean while the
- 4:28Speaker 2: ABC yet again showed it's almost hysterical bias against anyone
- 4:34Speaker 2: threatening its global warming faith. Here is Sarbra Lane, presented
- 4:39Speaker 2: of ABC radio's Marquee Am program this morning, again implying
- 4:44Speaker 2: and falsely, in my opinion, that little Australia could change
- 4:49Speaker 2: the temperature of the whole world. You well, it really
- 4:54Speaker 2: changed the temperature in some meaningful way seriously, and that
- 4:57Speaker 2: Australians twenty five years from now will be stunned by
- 5:02Speaker 2: what Lee's Liberals have just done by saying no to
- 5:04Speaker 2: net zero.
- 5:06Speaker 4: Your message to future at generations who may look back
- 5:10Speaker 4: in twenty fifty and think what on earth happened?
- 5:13Speaker 2: And then Lee started heckling, or Lane started heckling Lee.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Can you believe it? I mean so listen to Sarbra Lane,
- 5:21Speaker 2: it sounded really like an ABC climate zealot, frightened that
- 5:25Speaker 2: voters might actually now back the Liberals ditching then it's
- 5:29Speaker 2: zero manners. Listen to this aggression.
- 5:33Speaker 4: The CSIRO gen cost found that renewables remain at the
- 5:37Speaker 4: lowest cost new build electricity generation technology in Australia.
- 5:41Speaker 5: Well, if that's the case, Sarbra, why has the price
- 5:43Speaker 5: gone up forty percent? Because what people made misunderstand is that.
- 5:47Speaker 4: But you're air brushing out things like to the Ukraine
- 5:50Speaker 4: War and hangover from COVID.
- 5:53Speaker 5: We've moved well past that and the point I want
- 5:56Speaker 5: to make is that renewables have that play those things
- 5:59Speaker 5: pushed up in flame.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Now, just the fact check here that ABC presented pushing
- 6:05Speaker 2: the gen costs report as a bible is relying in
- 6:08Speaker 2: fact and a highly controversial report criticized for its global
- 6:12Speaker 2: warming spin and cherry picking. And then she went on
- 6:15Speaker 2: to parrot Labour spin on oh, it's the Ukraine War
- 6:18Speaker 2: that's responsible for how higher power prices, when in fact,
- 6:22Speaker 2: the gas prices which did shoot up at the start
- 6:25Speaker 2: of the Ukraine War have long since fallen back to
- 6:27Speaker 2: the normal. And what's more, the nation's top electricity and
- 6:32Speaker 2: gas supplies just today that admitted in a joint report
- 6:36Speaker 2: that years of higher power prices are now locked in
- 6:41Speaker 2: under Labor and its net zero policies. They said most
- 6:45Speaker 2: CEOs expect energy prices to rise in the coming years
- 6:48Speaker 2: as investment spending on new generation infrastructure increases sharply, talking
- 6:54Speaker 2: particularly about new transmission and network costs. Because of course,
- 6:58Speaker 2: as you know, all those new wind and solar farms
- 7:01Speaker 2: actually need very expensive wires strung out all over the
- 7:04Speaker 2: country to hook them all up to the grid, plus
- 7:08Speaker 2: the backup of course, and then when you add all that,
- 7:11Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's claim today looks more and more dishonest.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Australians know the cheapest form of new energy is renewables.
- 7:21Speaker 2: Yeah, for all this new wind and solar are the cheapest,
- 7:23Speaker 2: why have your bills instead gone up? So for all
- 7:28Speaker 2: the chaos on the liberal side as they change policies,
- 7:33Speaker 2: challenge the global warming culp, Labor still is the greater danger,
- 7:39Speaker 2: and even more so because it is united in doing
- 7:43Speaker 2: the wrong thing. I mentioned Pennywoe. Some of the foreign
- 7:49Speaker 2: ministers said on the ABC yesterday, I tell you what
- 7:52Speaker 2: it says so much about why labor is the danger,
- 7:57Speaker 2: why it has given us this asked that she was
- 8:01Speaker 2: asked on the ABC about the government's push to host
- 8:06Speaker 2: next year's massive United Nations Global Woman Summit to hold
- 8:09Speaker 2: it in Adelaide, even though the government's own costings warn
- 8:13Speaker 2: that could cost US two billion dollars two billion for
- 8:19Speaker 2: a talkfest. But listen to Wong's response yesterday.
- 8:24Speaker 6: Obviously South Australia wants to host your hometown, but is
- 8:29Speaker 6: it true the cost is more than two billion dollars.
- 8:32Speaker 2: I'm not going to comment on the costs of a
- 8:35Speaker 2: conference that we haven't got, we haven't won the bid
- 8:38Speaker 2: for yet. I mean, that is just stunning. Here is
- 8:43Speaker 2: Wong saying, ah, we'll first get this conference and only
- 8:47Speaker 2: then will we tell you what it will cost. I mean,
- 8:52Speaker 2: that's exactly the wrong way round under normal business practices,
- 8:59Speaker 2: that is. But that is exactly Labour's position all the
- 9:03Speaker 2: time where its net zero global warming policies. It has
- 9:05Speaker 2: never once told you first what they will all cost
- 9:10Speaker 2: or even what difference they will make to the climate.
- 9:14Speaker 2: I mean, as the government told you the cost of
- 9:17Speaker 2: net zero or the benefit, and you're supposed to say, yeah, okay,
- 9:22Speaker 2: spend whatever it takes. Who cares if it cost trillions
- 9:26Speaker 2: to make about little or no difference at all overall
- 9:29Speaker 2: to the climate. Now, oh no, no, it can't be so.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Because Penny Warm she speaks so reasonably and calmly factually,
- 9:40Speaker 2: maybe we should trust her, and I say, remember her form.
- 9:46Speaker 2: She was our first climate change minister under Kevin rud
- 9:49Speaker 2: and Julia Gillard, when she told you all sorts of
- 9:52Speaker 2: things that turned out false, like oor labor. Don't worry
- 9:56Speaker 2: that they're not going to give you a carbon tax.
- 10:00Speaker 7: We know that you can't have any environmental certainty with
- 10:03Speaker 7: a carbon tax.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Wong also told you it's climate change minister, global warming
- 10:10Speaker 2: that's going to destroy the Great Barrier Reef, when in
- 10:13Speaker 2: fact official studies suggests coral cover is now above average.
- 10:18Speaker 2: And Woe also said rainfall southern Australia that'll be cut
- 10:23Speaker 2: by a quarter by twenty fifty seventy years after she
- 10:26Speaker 2: said that, well, actually we still see rainfall in Southern
- 10:29Speaker 2: Australia after above the levels of the first half of
- 10:32Speaker 2: last century. Before we then got a couple of decades
- 10:35Speaker 2: of good rain and now it seems back to what
- 10:37Speaker 2: appears to be normal and now look at what labor
- 10:42Speaker 2: has done to us to stop the global warming that
- 10:44Speaker 2: hasn't actually delivered the disasters or all of the disasters
- 10:48Speaker 2: one predicted billions and green hydrogen schemes that have failed
- 10:53Speaker 2: or frozen, plans for massive new offshore wind farms, oh,
- 10:59Speaker 2: that have been scrapped, power prices soaring, smelters and heavy
- 11:04Speaker 2: industry driven out of business or needing such big taxpayer
- 11:08Speaker 2: handouts that the Tomago smelter owners said on the weekend,
- 11:11Speaker 2: well even one billion dollar of government handouts relief for
- 11:16Speaker 2: rescue package, that's not going to be enough. And taxpayers
- 11:19Speaker 2: now look like having to subsidize the electricity too. So
- 11:24Speaker 2: this is this is Labour's net zero disaster. And if
- 11:30Speaker 2: you tell me, oh, but for Liberals they're not united,
- 11:35Speaker 2: I say, at least the party is changing its mind
- 11:40Speaker 2: challenging this nonsense. It was never going to be easy
- 11:44Speaker 2: to make such a u turn. It was always going
- 11:47Speaker 2: to take time to work out a totally new policy
- 11:49Speaker 2: with all the details. Of course, there was going to
- 11:53Speaker 2: be some disagreement and lack of unity in making such
- 11:58Speaker 2: a change, but at least we do now have a choice.
- 12:04Speaker 2: On the one side, some hope at lasts for change,
- 12:09Speaker 2: and on the labor side, more of the insane, say,
- 12:17Speaker 2: joining me and Michael Kroger former president of the Victorian Liberals,
- 12:19Speaker 2: Steve Conroy, former Labor senator and cabinet minister, Michael Kroger,
- 12:25Speaker 2: who's going to be the next federal Liberal leader. And
- 12:27Speaker 2: when well Andrew.
- 12:32Speaker 8: Obviously, in a period after election you've got the defeat
- 12:36Speaker 8: that we suffered, you're going to have a lot of
- 12:37Speaker 8: dislocation and a lot of unhappy people, and a lot
- 12:40Speaker 8: of people who think they can be a leader or
- 12:43Speaker 8: should be letter and have been brutally overlooked, their brilliance
- 12:46Speaker 8: overlooked over the years. So that normally happens after election.
- 12:51Speaker 8: Things take a long time to settle down. Obviously, the
- 12:54Speaker 8: concern is that we're on twenty four percent and that's unsustainable.
- 12:58Speaker 8: That's to state the bleeding of you. So things have
- 13:01Speaker 8: to improve, and you know, we're very hopeful. I will
- 13:04Speaker 8: now as you say, we now have a significant point
- 13:07Speaker 8: of difference. The challenge, as I've said over the weeks,
- 13:10Speaker 8: is to sell this policy and to make it clear
- 13:14Speaker 8: how how are we going to reduce power prices under
- 13:19Speaker 8: a liberal government? To me, that's the biggest challenge confronting
- 13:22Speaker 8: the opposition because we've been sprooking net zero since twenty
- 13:26Speaker 8: twenty one. So as for the other matters, Susan's weather
- 13:31Speaker 8: a terrible political storm over the last six months and
- 13:35Speaker 8: she's holding her head high and I hope she succeeds.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Stephen. You must have noticed that I did that. Michael
- 13:42Speaker 2: is very diplomatic and doesn't want to upset anyone and
- 13:45Speaker 2: so it hasn't actually said anything there about who will.
- 13:50Speaker 2: But who's your call?
- 13:53Speaker 9: Well, Look, I think if Susan lay last or Christmas,
- 13:57Speaker 9: she will have done well only one more sitting week.
- 14:02Speaker 9: If she performs poorly, the knives will be out. But
- 14:07Speaker 9: no one should be locked into just thinking that Parliament
- 14:11Speaker 9: is the only time between now and Christmas that she
- 14:14Speaker 9: could be in trouble. Well, it takes is a couple
- 14:16Speaker 9: more resignations, the crisis will beyond and she'll be challenged.
- 14:23Speaker 9: Now is it hasty? Is it Taylor? Have they worked
- 14:27Speaker 9: out an accommodation between themselves? Who knows? At this stage? Hasty?
- 14:33Speaker 9: You know is younger fresher? Look, Taylor had a disaster
- 14:37Speaker 9: selection campaign where he opposed a tax cut and then
- 14:43Speaker 9: was profoundly uninspiring during the key moments of a federal
- 14:47Speaker 9: election campaign. So if they want a new look, they
- 14:50Speaker 9: go Hasty. If they want more of what failed last time,
- 14:53Speaker 9: they go Taylor. But at least the tint of the challenge.
- 14:59Speaker 9: I think you've put it fairly well. But I think
- 15:01Speaker 9: Hasty still needs to show that he can sell a
- 15:04Speaker 9: policy and by the way, also not lose his temper
- 15:07Speaker 9: with journalists so much. And it's got to, I think,
- 15:10Speaker 9: learn to smile and joke and relax a little. People
- 15:13Speaker 9: need to feel that it's one of them, particularly because
- 15:16Speaker 9: of the Christian thing. I think, Michael, an easier one
- 15:21Speaker 9: for you, I know, a put you on the spot
- 15:23Speaker 9: before the polls. Yes, as you say, shocking for the Liberals,
- 15:27Speaker 9: but almost all the support they've lost is in fact
- 15:30Speaker 9: seems to have gone directly to paul En Hanson and
- 15:32Speaker 9: won Nations. It's still on the right as it were.
- 15:35Speaker 9: Labour's extra support seems to have come mostly from the Greens,
- 15:38Speaker 9: not exclusively, but mostly at the cost of the Greens.
- 15:41Speaker 9: And despite all that, then what we end up with
- 15:44Speaker 9: Labor on primary votes alone still doesn't seem that popular
- 15:48Speaker 9: when it's against such weak opposition, what does that tell you, Well.
- 15:53Speaker 8: Again and do the Labor Party playbook is now pretty
- 15:56Speaker 8: obvious to anyone that observes politics. Just offer free stuff
- 16:02Speaker 8: in the months before the election in a cost of
- 16:04Speaker 8: living crisis, just off of stuff that's free, and if
- 16:07Speaker 8: you go through in a nothing terribly intellectual, don't worry
- 16:11Speaker 8: about debt. Don't worry about the increase in debt to
- 16:16Speaker 8: you one point two trillion in a couple of years time,
- 16:19Speaker 8: don't worry about the deficit. Just offer free and discounted
- 16:22Speaker 8: stuff to an electorate which is suffering under a cost
- 16:26Speaker 8: of living crisis. That's their playbook. Free tape, discounted medicines,
- 16:31Speaker 8: free medicare, wiping off student debt, cheaper medicines, everything, and
- 16:38Speaker 8: some of the things are very good policies, by the way,
- 16:40Speaker 8: but there's always a cost to the national debt and
- 16:42Speaker 8: there's a balance which Labor don't seem to care about.
- 16:46Speaker 8: And so that's their playbook. The challenge for the opposition
- 16:49Speaker 8: is to match that playbook with an economic, the responsible
- 16:53Speaker 8: way forward, because sooner or later someone's going to have
- 16:55Speaker 8: to pay for the recklessness of Jim Charmers, and it'll
- 17:00Speaker 8: be our kids. When schools and hospitals and universities can't
- 17:04Speaker 8: be fully funded in the ndis, et cetera, because Australia
- 17:07Speaker 8: can't keep running up these deficits and debts. You know,
- 17:11Speaker 8: one of the great cris criticisms of Donald Trump is
- 17:14Speaker 8: that has increased the debt in the US from thirty
- 17:17Speaker 8: six to thirty nine trillion US dollars. That's unsustainable too,
- 17:22Speaker 8: So that's one of the great challenges for the coalition.
- 17:24Speaker 8: The sooner they get back onto economics, the better they'll be.
- 17:29Speaker 2: I think so too. But I don't think they should
- 17:31Speaker 2: run away from the climate change one try to hide
- 17:33Speaker 2: their own policy as they do policy. You've got to
- 17:37Speaker 2: sell a policy. Well, that's exactly correct, That is exactly correct.
- 17:41Speaker 2: But Stephen, I mean the Liberals really do seem to
- 17:46Speaker 2: have problems with leadership, and including in Victoria. The opposition
- 17:51Speaker 2: leader there, Brad Batton, has finished. He had his faction
- 17:56Speaker 2: march into his office today to tell him, look, sorry,
- 17:59Speaker 2: but you're new Treasury spokesman Jess Wilson. She's from the
- 18:03Speaker 2: Liberal Left. She's only been in Parliament for about three years.
- 18:06Speaker 2: This is extraordinary. She now has the numbers. I guess
- 18:10Speaker 2: you know, women against the female premier. Maybe I don't know.
- 18:15Speaker 2: So Brad Batten will probably be out in Nazia on Tuesday.
- 18:18Speaker 2: It seems that just hammering Victoria's astonishing crime Cristi is
- 18:23Speaker 2: a former policeman, was not enough, was it. You do
- 18:26Speaker 2: have to talk economics in the end.
- 18:29Speaker 9: Look, that's absolutely right. He was just seen as a
- 18:32Speaker 9: one trick pony, and not a very impressive one trick pony.
- 18:37Speaker 9: So I'm a huge fan of Jess's. I think she's
- 18:41Speaker 9: very talented, like you, the point of age years inexperience
- 18:47Speaker 9: in a parliamentary sense. But this mob are so hopeless Andrew,
- 18:52Speaker 9: I can't even get the timing of a leadership ballot.
- 18:56Speaker 9: You don't do it in advance of a couple of
- 18:59Speaker 9: weeks since your parliament. You do it at the end
- 19:01Speaker 9: of it. I mean, she's now got to pick an
- 19:04Speaker 9: entire new front and she'll have unhappy people. You'll have
- 19:08Speaker 9: you know, question time with people who are in experience,
- 19:11Speaker 9: and what questions to ask. She'll be expected to ask
- 19:13Speaker 9: a string of questions. This is just like this is
- 19:18Speaker 9: the keystone Cops. You don't do this announce it before
- 19:22Speaker 9: the sitting. You do it at the end of the sitting,
- 19:24Speaker 9: just before the last sitting on Christmas. If you're going
- 19:27Speaker 9: to do this, I mean they've actually set her up
- 19:30Speaker 9: to fail in the first two weeks. This is going
- 19:33Speaker 9: to be a terribly difficult period for her trying to
- 19:35Speaker 9: establish her or her authority, her identity, and they just
- 19:41Speaker 9: put her behind the eight ball to start. As I'm
- 19:43Speaker 9: a huge fan. I think she is a big part
- 19:45Speaker 9: of the future of the Victorian Liberal Party and I
- 19:49Speaker 9: just can't believe that's stupid they've been in doing it now.
- 19:54Speaker 8: Michael Kroger, Well, I don't know that the time is
- 19:58Speaker 8: all that important. It's done a very good job on crime,
- 20:02Speaker 8: but as for what the Palamtry Party does, it's an
- 20:05Speaker 8: entirely matter for them. They're too good for me. For
- 20:08Speaker 8: those that don't know Jess Wilson, though, I have to say,
- 20:11Speaker 8: she's extremely formidable, very formidable. I've known her for all
- 20:16Speaker 8: her life. Her father was a distinguished member of Parliament
- 20:21Speaker 8: and she's done an excellent job since she's been there.
- 20:24Speaker 8: She worked for Freedenburg, which is you don't get to
- 20:27Speaker 8: work for him unless you are formidable, because he's rather demanding.
- 20:31Speaker 8: So she wins tomorrow it'll be a different style, but
- 20:36Speaker 8: for those that don't know her, she is very very formidable.
- 20:41Speaker 2: Well, the Liberals desperately need to make to win in
- 20:46Speaker 2: Victoria because that is such a hopeless, hopeless, spend thrift
- 20:51Speaker 2: government that's got a crime wave that can't control on
- 20:55Speaker 2: his hands and all that. If they can't beat that government,
- 20:59Speaker 2: then as really may as well jump into the sea.
- 21:03Speaker 2: What a joke it'll be. So it has to win,
- 21:06Speaker 2: and if they do that, they've got a springboard for
- 21:09Speaker 2: a federal win as well. So we shall see. Steve Conroy,
- 21:12Speaker 2: Michael Kroger, thank you very much to you both. After
- 21:16Speaker 2: the break Robot Wolves, China's new war weapon revealed and
- 21:21Speaker 2: why Australia can't even compete, and honestly you can blame
- 21:27Speaker 2: in part net zero, I'm going to show you something
- 21:35Speaker 2: that should make you even more alarmed that our own
- 21:38Speaker 2: army is sort of even ammunition being bled dry by
- 21:41Speaker 2: the Albenezy government. It's also something that should make you
- 21:45Speaker 2: even more worried that this government is also making electricity
- 21:48Speaker 2: supplies so shaky and expensive that there is no way
- 21:53Speaker 2: that we will get ahead in artificial intelligence, which needs
- 21:58Speaker 2: so much electricity that companies like Microsoft, which you're getting
- 22:01Speaker 2: into it planned to have their own nuclear reactors. Now
- 22:07Speaker 2: you might have thought it cute when China revealed it
- 22:12Speaker 2: had dancing robots. I mean, it's so advanced, but did
- 22:17Speaker 2: you really think that China was developing robots just to dance.
- 22:22Speaker 2: This year, a Chinese company unveiled a robot that can
- 22:25Speaker 2: also do kung fu, that potentially can fight. And last
- 22:31Speaker 2: week's China's People's Liberation Army released the video of army
- 22:35Speaker 2: exercises and look at the stars, robot wolves armed and
- 22:41Speaker 2: fighting alongside human soldiers. Now, China first unveiled the early
- 22:47Speaker 2: version of this new weapon a couple of years ago,
- 22:49Speaker 2: but this latest bodel looks more rugged and advanced. It
- 22:52Speaker 2: is still steered by pilots. But wait until these robot
- 22:56Speaker 2: wolves get artificial intelligence so that they can find independently,
- 23:02Speaker 2: identifying and targeting their own targets using their independent judgment.
- 23:08Speaker 2: And if you think talk of Chinese attacks, well it's
- 23:12Speaker 2: all alarmist, you know, warmonger. Check out the warning posted
- 23:17Speaker 2: by China's Foreign ministry just last week after Japan's Prime
- 23:22Speaker 2: minister suggested Japan would defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion.
- 23:27Speaker 2: I'll translate it for you. It was actually in Japanese
- 23:31Speaker 2: warning Japan any attempt to provoke the bottom line of
- 23:34Speaker 2: the Chinese people will inevitably be met with a severe
- 23:37Speaker 2: counter attack from China. Their heads will be split open
- 23:42Speaker 2: and they will be covered in blood. A Chinese consul
- 23:46Speaker 2: in Japan even warn Japan's leader on x that China
- 23:51Speaker 2: wouldn't hesitate to cut off a dirty neck. I really
- 23:56Speaker 2: don't think miny Australians realize how threatening our neighborhood has got,
- 24:01Speaker 2: you know, the way I sometimes see politics, it's like, oh,
- 24:04Speaker 2: it's all being played for domestic games, you know, like
- 24:07Speaker 2: the rest of the world doesn't really exist. We can
- 24:11Speaker 2: just muddle them on, you know, little playground fights in
- 24:15Speaker 2: Canberra and it doesn't have any consequence. Joining me back
- 24:18Speaker 2: at last from his break the country's top foreign affairs
- 24:21Speaker 2: run Greg Sherian of The Australian, Greg, great to see
- 24:25Speaker 2: you back. Isn't it extraordinary to have the world's second
- 24:29Speaker 2: biggest superpower threatening to cut off the head of Japan's
- 24:33Speaker 2: female prime minister and to split Japan's head wide open
- 24:37Speaker 2: and cover it with blood. What kind of country acts
- 24:41Speaker 2: and talks like that.
- 24:44Speaker 10: Well, Andrew, it's great to be with you, and you're
- 24:46Speaker 10: right to highlight this. When the Chinese talk to each other,
- 24:50Speaker 10: or talk to the Japanese or the Koreans or sometimes
- 24:53Speaker 10: the Filipinos or sometimes US, they speak in very harsh tones,
- 24:58Speaker 10: very very harsh tones. Jim Ping routinely tells his troops
- 25:02Speaker 10: to prepare for war now, Andrew, you're right to highlight
- 25:05Speaker 10: this robot capability. We've been discussing, and I've been writing
- 25:10Speaker 10: for years about the absolute hopeless position of the Australian
- 25:14Speaker 10: defense force in terms of drone capabilities. We're seeing in
- 25:19Speaker 10: Ukraine what drones can do and how adaptable and fast
- 25:23Speaker 10: they are. They're kind of, in a sense primitive robots
- 25:26Speaker 10: and they're not yet powered by AI and we're nowhere
- 25:30Speaker 10: in this. We're just, you know, on the tiniest friege.
- 25:33Speaker 10: We're doing almost nothing in drones because all of our
- 25:37Speaker 10: defense budget has taken up with the Orchest subs, and
- 25:39Speaker 10: the Alberanzi government won't spend any significant money on defense,
- 25:42Speaker 10: so we have almost no missiles and almost no drones,
- 25:46Speaker 10: certainly nothing that could counter the Chinese. We just depended
- 25:51Speaker 10: entirely on the Americans. So the Alberanza government is winning
- 25:54Speaker 10: the politics at the moment, but you couldn't imagine a
- 25:57Speaker 10: government doing a worse job across every of Australian interest, military, economic, social,
- 26:04Speaker 10: the whole lot.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Well, one of them is, of course, climate change policies,
- 26:11Speaker 2: global warming policies. And I want to segue from exactly
- 26:14Speaker 2: this point the electronic walls, which I highlights something as
- 26:18Speaker 2: I said, Look, in another decade, can you imagine they'll
- 26:23Speaker 2: have war robots that are going to have artificial intelligence
- 26:26Speaker 2: so they can fight without even operator You just check
- 26:28Speaker 2: them out the battlefield and they'll go and sort it
- 26:30Speaker 2: all out themselves. Meanwhile, we don't have enough electricity for
- 26:35Speaker 2: an artificial intelligence industry of our own to sort of
- 26:38Speaker 2: combat that capability, And with the labors that zero policies,
- 26:43Speaker 2: I doubt we'll even have enough electricity for our existing economy.
- 26:47Speaker 2: What do you make of the zero argument given that
- 26:50Speaker 2: sort of context, Well.
- 26:52Speaker 10: I think you're absolutely right, Andrew, and I want to
- 26:55Speaker 10: congratulate the Liberal and National parties. They've taken a big
- 26:58Speaker 10: step and it's a good step. You know, we're so
- 27:01Speaker 10: used to the Liberals make a mess of everything. We
- 27:03Speaker 10: should recognize a moment when they do something right. I've
- 27:06Speaker 10: got a column in tomorrow's paper pointing out that the
- 27:08Speaker 10: Liberal National Party policy is now far more in step
- 27:13Speaker 10: with what's happening internationally the whole world, including the Economist
- 27:17Speaker 10: magazine as recently as August, has said, basically, net zero
- 27:21Speaker 10: is a fiction, it's a folly, it's a fantasy, and
- 27:24Speaker 10: it'll never happen, and trying to get there imposes ludicrous
- 27:28Speaker 10: costs on an economy. Therefore, let's dispense with net zero.
- 27:32Speaker 10: We still try to reduce emissions a bit, although China
- 27:35Speaker 10: and India and the big emitters are not doing that,
- 27:38Speaker 10: but nonetheless we'll still try to reduce emissions a bit.
- 27:41Speaker 10: What you're seeing is the addition of enormous amounts of
- 27:44Speaker 10: renewable energy on top of fossil fuels. The International Energy
- 27:48Speaker 10: Agency just released its World Energy Outlook for twenty twenty four.
- 27:52Speaker 10: In twenty twenty four, emissions global emissions went up, so
- 27:55Speaker 10: the world is not decarbonizing.
- 27:57Speaker 2: The world derived more.
- 27:58Speaker 10: Energy from coal in twenty twenty four than it ever
- 28:01Speaker 10: has in the history of the human race. The use
- 28:04Speaker 10: of coal has doubled in the last couple of decades.
- 28:08Speaker 10: Everything the Albaneze government tells us is baloney. Everyone knows
- 28:12Speaker 10: except Official Australia, that fossil fuel energy is much cheaper
- 28:16Speaker 10: than renewable energy. But the Labor Party has been so
- 28:19Speaker 10: successful in setting up all of these climate quongos which
- 28:23Speaker 10: exist only to produce pro maximum climate change action propaganda.
- 28:30Speaker 10: All of their modeling is based on the most ropy
- 28:32Speaker 10: possible assumptions. It doesn't gel with the studies and modeling
- 28:37Speaker 10: that has done overseas, and the Liberal National Party policy
- 28:41Speaker 10: today is much more in line with what's happening internationally
- 28:45Speaker 10: and much more realistic than Labour's policy. The big question
- 28:48Speaker 10: is whether the Liberals can actually wage a successful political
- 28:53Speaker 10: fight over this. I mean you yearned for Tony Abbott
- 28:56Speaker 10: to be there because this campaign for the Liberals to succeed,
- 28:59Speaker 10: it's not going to be about their policy. It's got
- 29:01Speaker 10: to be about Labour's policy. It's got to be a
- 29:03Speaker 10: very tough negative campaign. Net zero means job losses, net
- 29:07Speaker 10: zero means inflation, Net zero means industry fleeing Australia and
- 29:11Speaker 10: going to China. The debate is there for the Liberals
- 29:14Speaker 10: to win, just as it's been one in Britain and America.
- 29:18Speaker 10: But whether they can do it, who knows.
- 29:21Speaker 2: Well. It requires conviction, it requires deep knowledge of the
- 29:26Speaker 2: policy and it must have been Susan Lee has surprised
- 29:29Speaker 2: me by showing some knowledge, more, far more than I
- 29:34Speaker 2: gave a credit for. So give her that. But you're
- 29:38Speaker 2: also going to turn defense into attack. They've got to
- 29:41Speaker 2: attack because the ruins of labours and net zero policies
- 29:46Speaker 2: are all around us. And I don't know why it
- 29:48Speaker 2: seemed to be a big tick that the United in
- 29:52Speaker 2: pursuing God, that's the illusion. Greg Sheridan, I'm so glad
- 29:57Speaker 2: you're back and I urge viewers to read your column
- 30:00Speaker 2: in The Australian tomorrow. Thank you so much a d
- 30:03Speaker 2: for your time. Thanks after the break. Labor protects its
- 30:09Speaker 2: mean girls. In the Albanzer government's Britney Higgins scandal, this
- 30:13Speaker 2: is astonishing. More developments in the past few days in
- 30:21Speaker 2: probably the grubbiest scandal of the Albanzer government reported in
- 30:24Speaker 2: The Australian, the scandal how the government paid two point
- 30:29Speaker 2: four million dollars in compensation to a former Liberal staffer,
- 30:33Speaker 2: Britney Higgins, after she claimed the Morrison government, especially her
- 30:37Speaker 2: then boss defenseman Sir Linda Reynolds had treated her badly
- 30:41Speaker 2: and tried to cover up her rape at Parliament House
- 30:44Speaker 2: by another staffer. Now, as you know, Labor used Higgins's
- 30:48Speaker 2: claim to destroy the Morrison government and then, after winning power,
- 30:53Speaker 2: it paid Higgins that compensation, but only after banning Reynolds
- 30:58Speaker 2: from giving evidence in the mediation that higgins claims of
- 31:02Speaker 2: a cover up and bad treatment by the government were
- 31:05Speaker 2: utterly false, which two judges have since confirmed yes, Higgins
- 31:10Speaker 2: had lied. Reynolds is now suing the government and its lawyers,
- 31:14Speaker 2: who was supposedly defending her ha but the government last
- 31:18Speaker 2: week demanded she first scrub any mention in her claims
- 31:22Speaker 2: of two of Labour's so called mean girls Finance Ministerkator
- 31:27Speaker 2: Gallaher on the left for mister Pennywong on the right,
- 31:31Speaker 2: two women who treated Higgins's claims of a cover up
- 31:35Speaker 2: as true and bullied Reynolds so viciously that she had
- 31:40Speaker 2: to check into a mental health facility. Let me remind
- 31:45Speaker 2: you of how appallingly mean Wong and Gallaher were in
- 31:52Speaker 2: weaponizing Higgins's false claims against Reynolds before the government. Then,
- 31:58Speaker 2: in my opinion, in rewarded Higgins with two point four
- 32:03Speaker 2: million dollars of your money. Let's be clear it is
- 32:06Speaker 2: part of a cover up.
- 32:08Speaker 5: I did answer your questions to the point that you
- 32:10Speaker 5: ground me to the ground and ended me.
- 32:12Speaker 2: Ended up in hospital. But I'm bad.
- 32:14Speaker 6: I'm answering questions.
- 32:17Speaker 2: I'm answering questions, and I'm.
- 32:19Speaker 11: Just that we put you in hospital. You just let
- 32:21Speaker 11: I put you in hospital. Senator Reynolds, Well, if so,
- 32:27Speaker 11: you're the big.
- 32:29Speaker 2: Order, Senator won.
- 32:31Speaker 11: Nobody questions, nobody takes pleasure.
- 32:38Speaker 5: I'd like to respond to having two yell at me
- 32:42Speaker 5: at the same.
- 32:42Speaker 11: My final question, Senator Reynolds, was it your decision to
- 32:46Speaker 11: send miss Higgins to Perth for the duration of the
- 32:49Speaker 11: election campaign?
- 32:49Speaker 12: Senator Gallagher, again, that's.
- 32:52Speaker 11: Also subject please to investigation.
- 32:53Speaker 13: How has that was your final question?
- 32:56Speaker 7: Saor Gallagher? That was beneath you.
- 32:58Speaker 11: Well, don't give me a lee in that.
- 33:01Speaker 2: Please don't use me honestly, the next time they're casting
- 33:08Speaker 2: parts for Wicked, I can nominate two people that would
- 33:12Speaker 2: be walk up starts. Joining me are Lisa Goddard, former
- 33:16Speaker 2: foreign correspondent and founder of Adoni Media, and Joe Hildebrand,
- 33:19Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph writer and Sky News regular Lisa. That wildly
- 33:26Speaker 2: generous payment to Higgins always struck me as politically corrupt.
- 33:31Speaker 2: But why is the government now so strong in protecting
- 33:33Speaker 2: Penny Wong and Katie Gallagher from scrutiny? I mean to me,
- 33:38Speaker 2: I mean, if there were ever was a cover up
- 33:40Speaker 2: in this whole affair, this looks like it. Andrew.
- 33:47Speaker 11: It's interesting, isn't it.
- 33:48Speaker 12: You watch that footage again from quite some time ago
- 33:50Speaker 12: now and it is quite shameful what happened to Linda Reynolds.
- 33:54Speaker 12: And you think about they took parliamentary privilege and they
- 33:56Speaker 12: basically put her out there, covered her and mud and
- 33:59Speaker 12: she a political assassination. And yet now you've got taxpayer
- 34:03Speaker 12: funded Commonwealth lawyers in their fighting to keep their names
- 34:07Speaker 12: out of the court. So while on one hand they
- 34:09Speaker 12: were all out for damage control, to create political damage
- 34:12Speaker 12: by using parliamentary privilege, now when they may be put
- 34:15Speaker 12: into a situation or could have been put into a
- 34:17Speaker 12: situation where they may have had to answer some questions,
- 34:20Speaker 12: they're all about political damage control and guess who's paying
- 34:23Speaker 12: for it?
- 34:23Speaker 2: We are scurry back under the rock. It looks like
- 34:28Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrand.
- 34:30Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got to say, this is the ugliest face
- 34:33Speaker 6: of the modern left. This is the Left at its
- 34:36Speaker 6: most grotesque, disgraceful, bloodthirsty, and we are seeing now the
- 34:42Speaker 6: come up and from what happens when you get suckered
- 34:45Speaker 6: into that kind of mob mentality, when you just have
- 34:49Speaker 6: baying hounds and you want to see the corpse of
- 34:52Speaker 6: your enemies dangling from the nearest tree. This is part
- 34:55Speaker 6: of a number of things that I suppose that the
- 34:59Speaker 6: modern left, maybe it's not so modern. Have you know
- 35:03Speaker 6: which ones that they've engaged in, where they've you know,
- 35:06Speaker 6: things that would previously have been out of bounds in
- 35:08Speaker 6: terms of being a fair and free political football, or
- 35:12Speaker 6: that would be considered a criminal matter and not to
- 35:15Speaker 6: be politicized, not to be used as a political weapon,
- 35:18Speaker 6: has just.
- 35:18Speaker 2: Been thrown out.
- 35:19Speaker 6: I think it's part of the mob mentality of social
- 35:23Speaker 6: media which has fueled this, and Labor did not initiate this,
- 35:28Speaker 6: but it has been sucked into this mentality by people
- 35:31Speaker 6: around Britney Higgins, who, frankly, I think, have exploited a
- 35:35Speaker 6: very vulnerable young woman who had something terrible happened to her,
- 35:39Speaker 6: and they all decided that they were smart enough to
- 35:41Speaker 6: gain the system and that they could you know, make
- 35:44Speaker 6: this a kind of great salutary political campaign for the
- 35:48Speaker 6: ages and labor. Got suckered into that, and for being
- 35:52Speaker 6: so stupid and naive they now look very, very stupid
- 35:56Speaker 6: and naive.
- 35:57Speaker 2: Indeed, I'm not quite sure they were suckered into it.
- 36:01Speaker 2: It seemed to me like Lolly's for a greedy person
- 36:05Speaker 2: they grabbed them. Yeah, well, the win, certainly, that's a bit.
- 36:13Speaker 2: I should point out that that two point four million
- 36:16Speaker 2: dollars of our money that went to Higgins were not
- 36:21Speaker 2: just for oh, you know, the trauma of my bad treatment,
- 36:25Speaker 2: not the bad treatment, but also medical expenses and lots
- 36:29Speaker 2: of future earnings because of another falsehood that she would
- 36:32Speaker 2: probably never be able to work again. The doctor Marta
- 36:36Speaker 2: believed that but the time, but she that's turned out
- 36:39Speaker 2: with only the passing of a year or two not
- 36:41Speaker 2: to be true. Lisa, I don't think commentators should skip
- 36:47Speaker 2: over the massive support now in two poles for Pauline
- 36:51Speaker 2: Hanson and a one Nation party, because I think the
- 36:53Speaker 2: numbers are astonishing. You think how much support the Greens
- 36:57Speaker 2: get from the media, especially from the ABC, and how
- 37:00Speaker 2: One Nation gets, you know, buckets poured on its head. Well,
- 37:04Speaker 2: One Nation now has twice the Green support and the
- 37:07Speaker 2: latest Red Bridge pole eighteen percent to nine and about
- 37:10Speaker 2: the same support as the Liberals if you slip out
- 37:12Speaker 2: the you know, the Nationals vote from the codestion figures.
- 37:15Speaker 2: Here's Pauling Hanson today.
- 37:17Speaker 1: I'm excited by it and it's just a general feeling
- 37:19Speaker 1: I'm you know, I get with the public when I'm
- 37:21Speaker 1: out in the public. People are fed up. They want
- 37:24Speaker 1: change and they want their country back. They don't like
- 37:27Speaker 1: the direction we're heading in. You know, the change is
- 37:29Speaker 1: happening also, mass migration, huge impact on the people getting housing,
- 37:35Speaker 1: having rental accommodation, and I think the other thing is
- 37:38Speaker 1: cost a living. It's people are saying we want change.
- 37:41Speaker 1: They have no faith or confidence in the major political parties.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Judit deliver what they want back.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Lisa, how do you explain the massive rise of support
- 37:50Speaker 2: for One Nation.
- 37:53Speaker 12: There's a few things, Andrew, they said that once you
- 37:54Speaker 12: were sick of saying something, people are only just starting
- 37:57Speaker 12: to hear it. So Palling Hanson has been saying this
- 38:00Speaker 12: same thing now for about twenty seven years and she
- 38:02Speaker 12: hasn't changed her tune despite being attacked, despite being ridiculed,
- 38:05Speaker 12: despite even being sent to prison. So I think people
- 38:08Speaker 12: are looking at her and saying, look, she has conviction,
- 38:10Speaker 12: she actually stands by what she says. And you look
- 38:12Speaker 12: at the other major parties and perhaps it's policy by polling,
- 38:16Speaker 12: so you look at what's ranking. Okay, well the coalition
- 38:19Speaker 12: for example, Well we'll address net zero next, Susan Lee says,
- 38:22Speaker 12: we'll look at immigration. Paulind Hanson has been hitting all
- 38:24Speaker 12: of those issues for decades now, and I had a
- 38:28Speaker 12: phone call earlier this afternoon to talk about one.
- 38:30Speaker 2: Are the actual figures.
- 38:31Speaker 12: They're seeing a six hundred percent increase in membership in
- 38:34Speaker 12: Tasmania alone. They were averaging about twenty nine every twenty
- 38:39Speaker 12: nine seconds, so we're getting a new membership sign up.
- 38:41Speaker 2: So that shows you.
- 38:42Speaker 12: You can see the Red Bridge polling. You could look
- 38:44Speaker 12: at all of the news polling, but when you look
- 38:45Speaker 12: at what the membership base is, how it's growing, and
- 38:48Speaker 12: they've opened sixty five branches around this country in the
- 38:51Speaker 12: past few months alone. That's what's showing the real growth here,
- 38:54Speaker 12: and that's showing I think people driving this with their
- 38:57Speaker 12: feet and where they're planting their vote.
- 38:59Speaker 2: Potentially Joe, of course, is more than two years ago
- 39:03Speaker 2: before the next election, and you know where range to
- 39:06Speaker 2: day could be dropped tomorrow. You don't know where one
- 39:08Speaker 2: nation will be. But what do you make of it all?
- 39:11Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I'm not surprised at all. Many many years
- 39:14Speaker 6: ago I wrote about this phenomenon when you know, the
- 39:16Speaker 6: mainstream parties were just knifing their leaders every single parliamentary term,
- 39:21Speaker 6: and I said, say what you're like about one nation.
- 39:23Speaker 6: At least it's had the same leader for as long
- 39:26Speaker 6: as it's been a parliamentary force. It has been consistent
- 39:32Speaker 6: in his policies. As Lisa said, you know, whether you
- 39:35Speaker 6: disagree or agree with Pauline Hanson, you're in no question,
- 39:39Speaker 6: no doubt as to what she stands for. But again,
- 39:42Speaker 6: that was many, many years ago when one nation was
- 39:44Speaker 6: riding high. They since sort of collapsed. It's very much
- 39:47Speaker 6: a boom bust kind of party and a boom bust
- 39:50Speaker 6: kind of political movement. When things are tough and people
- 39:53Speaker 6: are blaming a high cost of living on things like
- 39:55Speaker 6: high immigration or net zero. Obviously that is just pure
- 39:59Speaker 6: red meat for one nation, and that is it's a
- 40:00Speaker 6: real kind of it's real heartland kind of territory. When
- 40:04Speaker 6: things get a bit better and life's not so bad,
- 40:06Speaker 6: people are probably a little bit less angry and they're
- 40:09Speaker 6: more happy to go for more moderate parties. And the
- 40:11Speaker 6: other thing is, of course, that all these votes are
- 40:14Speaker 6: coming at the expense of the coalition. They are not
- 40:16Speaker 6: taking votes away from Labor or the left, and so
- 40:21Speaker 6: it actually doesn't increase the prospect of a conservative government,
- 40:25Speaker 6: be that from one nation or the Libs or the Nats.
- 40:29Speaker 2: Lisa got Joe Hildebrand, thank you very much to you.
- 40:32Speaker 6: Thank you mate.
- 40:33Speaker 2: After the break. Labor leaves the door open to neo Nazis,
- 40:38Speaker 2: but Labor in Britain shuts it. They're going hard against
- 40:41Speaker 2: mass immigration. You heard paul In Hanson just before saying
- 40:49Speaker 2: mass immigration is a huge issue. That helped to explain
- 40:53Speaker 2: her big jump in the polls. Now, Labor isn't doing
- 40:56Speaker 2: much to cut this massive immigration historically high over the
- 41:01Speaker 2: last few years, and the Liberals claim they will, but
- 41:04Speaker 2: still having said how or what or announce exactly what
- 41:08Speaker 2: big cuts they intend to make. Now, when big parties
- 41:11Speaker 2: don't deal with mass immigration, smaller parties are not just
- 41:14Speaker 2: one nation. They will fill that void. And most worrying
- 41:18Speaker 2: at the moment is that neo Nazis scum are filling
- 41:23Speaker 2: that vacuum created by Labor and the liberals. They're even
- 41:27Speaker 2: talking now about forming a political party of their own,
- 41:30Speaker 2: and you know people demanding, oh they better be banned.
- 41:33Speaker 2: Well look, sorry, that's not just anti democratic, but it's
- 41:37Speaker 2: dumb because it's likely to create an even bigger backlash. Now.
- 41:41Speaker 2: Cutting mass immigration when it is causing such tension and
- 41:46Speaker 2: hardship like a housing shortage, is actually it becomes the
- 41:50Speaker 2: duty of a responsible party to do something about it.
- 41:55Speaker 2: Right And in Britain, even the Labor government there is
- 41:59Speaker 2: now finally getting tough in the legal immigration especially so
- 42:01Speaker 2: they're saying asylum seekers will have to wait twenty years
- 42:05Speaker 2: before they can get citizenship and we'll have to go
- 42:08Speaker 2: refugees will have to go home. In the meantime, if
- 42:10Speaker 2: their countries are deemed safe, more people will be deported.
- 42:15Speaker 2: So here is Britain's Home Secretary, Shaban and Mahmoud, and
- 42:20Speaker 2: remember she is Labor.
- 42:23Speaker 7: It is important that we deal with illegal migration into
- 42:26Speaker 7: this country. It is an issue that is dividing our
- 42:29Speaker 7: country and I see this polarization all over the country,
- 42:32Speaker 7: including in my own constituency. We have a system that
- 42:35Speaker 7: is out of control. It's unfair and it's putting huge
- 42:38Speaker 7: pressure on communities. So it is important that we restore
- 42:41Speaker 7: order and control to this system so that we can
- 42:44Speaker 7: retain public permission and public confidence in having an asylum
- 42:48Speaker 7: system at all.
- 42:49Speaker 2: Join me from London is writer broadcast the commentator, it's
- 42:53Speaker 2: the krag Wu. It's the great to see you again.
- 42:56Speaker 2: Why has your Labor government seen the life? Is it
- 43:00Speaker 2: all just because Naja Varajan is anti immigration reform party?
- 43:04Speaker 2: Why are you head in the polls?
- 43:07Speaker 13: I think so, and I think Reform are so ahead
- 43:09Speaker 13: in the polls that it's basically calcified. It's now given
- 43:12Speaker 13: that Reform is somewhere double in the polls at any
- 43:15Speaker 13: given moment, with where Labor and Conservatives are sometimes even combined,
- 43:21Speaker 13: they are still leading in the polls over both the
- 43:24Speaker 13: two major parties. But listen, I will see it. I
- 43:27Speaker 13: will believe it when I see it. When it comes
- 43:28Speaker 13: to the Labor Party, Shabana Mamood was always supposed to
- 43:30Speaker 13: be Kirstama's hard line on immigration, and she has decided
- 43:35Speaker 13: to use Denmark as the model for hardline immigration for
- 43:39Speaker 13: a reason because actually it's Denmark's left wing party that's
- 43:42Speaker 13: brought in these strict almost anti asylum laws. You know,
- 43:46Speaker 13: deemon country safe, so asylum is not a permanent state
- 43:49Speaker 13: of affairs. Asylum is basically like lending your couch to
- 43:51Speaker 13: a friend until they can find a place to stay,
- 43:54Speaker 13: so kind of reconfiguring our relationship with asylum in the
- 43:57Speaker 13: first place. She's also going to announce it visa ban
- 44:00Speaker 13: apparently on countries that refuse to take back failed asylum seekers,
- 44:04Speaker 13: which could be a complete game changer. And the problem
- 44:06Speaker 13: is which countries will be on our list is another question.
- 44:09Speaker 13: One of the major countries that we see a lot
- 44:10Speaker 13: of asylum seekers come from are places like Afghanistan and Sudan.
- 44:13Speaker 13: We don't have a returns agreement with Afghanistan. Germany has
- 44:18Speaker 13: that and has started sending people back by the UK.
- 44:20Speaker 13: Apparently that's too much for our middle class left wing
- 44:25Speaker 13: liberals in the cities, so we'll have to see if
- 44:28Speaker 13: she's successful there. But look, Labor is learning that the
- 44:30Speaker 13: whole immigration debate, legal and legal is extremely toxic, extremely radioactive, and.
- 44:36Speaker 2: It's just completely unfair.
- 44:38Speaker 13: I mean, the amount of taxes that we pay in
- 44:40Speaker 13: Britain to see people coming off a boat, getting put
- 44:43Speaker 13: up in a hotel, being given a stipend every week,
- 44:46Speaker 13: a mobile phone, getting dental and healthcare, being sent to school,
- 44:49Speaker 13: and all these privileges that people have had to pay
- 44:52Speaker 13: taxes for for generations, and the fact that their own
- 44:55Speaker 13: children are not even benefiting to the degree that these
- 44:57Speaker 13: asylum seekers are is completely obscene and it's deeply offensive. So,
- 45:02Speaker 13: you know, other than the fact that it's clearly losing
- 45:04Speaker 13: labor a lot of votes, it's just completely unfair. You're
- 45:07Speaker 13: seeing neighborhoods have literally been filled up with strange men
- 45:11Speaker 13: from god knows where. In housing units. You see dozens
- 45:17Speaker 13: of men in one house at the end of the
- 45:19Speaker 13: street that's not being policed by anyone. You see them
- 45:21Speaker 13: lingering around schools. You see in the case of the
- 45:24Speaker 13: Bell Hotel and epping one of those asylum seekers from
- 45:28Speaker 13: I believe it was in Theopia he assaulted sexually assaulted
- 45:31Speaker 13: a fourteen year old girl. It's just not acceptable anymore,
- 45:34Speaker 13: and not just the fact that you have people gaming
- 45:37Speaker 13: the system. Why are communities being expected to take in
- 45:40Speaker 13: waves of predominantly fighting age men from countries and cultures
- 45:44Speaker 13: that we know are not particularly friendly to women's rights.
- 45:46Speaker 13: These are not people that respect our laws, because if
- 45:49Speaker 13: they did, they wouldn't come into the country on a dinghy,
- 45:52Speaker 13: which is an illegal way to enter the country by
- 45:54Speaker 13: the way. So the whole thing has just become ridiculous
- 45:56Speaker 13: and it's just got to a tipping point where we're
- 45:58Speaker 13: sick of seeing story to story every single day of
- 46:01Speaker 13: an asylum seeker stabs someone on an asylum seekers you know,
- 46:04Speaker 13: sectually assaulted someone on asylum seeker has been given a BMW.
- 46:07Speaker 1: I mean, it's just ridiculous.
- 46:10Speaker 2: It's such a con as these people get so many
- 46:13Speaker 2: getting benefits that British taxpayers don't get and British taxpayers
- 46:17Speaker 2: have to pay for it. And when you say men
- 46:20Speaker 2: of fighting age, those things are more than not filled
- 46:24Speaker 2: with young men rather than women and children, who, if
- 46:27Speaker 2: they're genuine refugees fleeing genuine danger, you would think women
- 46:31Speaker 2: and children first. They're not. They're not. It's a con,
- 46:36Speaker 2: but it's there to something else. I've said many times,
- 46:41Speaker 2: you know, global warming, the global warming scare is actually
- 46:45Speaker 2: more dangerous to people than global warming itself. And you've
- 46:48Speaker 2: provided him from Britain. Another example a government report same
- 46:53Speaker 2: fear of global warming could turn people to drugs. That
- 46:57Speaker 2: is the fear the pain and I actually think could
- 47:00Speaker 2: be true is.
- 47:02Speaker 13: Oh yes, apparently this report has been citing anxiety and
- 47:05Speaker 13: panic attacks and people having to use drugs to be
- 47:09Speaker 13: able to cope. I mean, it's absolutely preposterous that at
- 47:13Speaker 13: the most prosperous time in human history, you have people
- 47:16Speaker 13: having to turn to drugs because they're so scared of
- 47:18Speaker 13: the climate change gods. This just shows a failure and
- 47:21Speaker 13: education system. The fact that the world's most infamous truant,
- 47:24Speaker 13: Greta Tunberg, has been able to get a foothold in
- 47:26Speaker 13: our generation and basically torpedo their mental health in this way.
- 47:31Speaker 13: It's just an indictment to the fact that this whole
- 47:33Speaker 13: movement has gone too far. There is no rational discussion
- 47:35Speaker 13: or rational debate. No one is grateful for the things
- 47:37Speaker 13: that we have, or for running water or for constant electricity.
- 47:41Speaker 13: Now we just have young wingy people who are living
- 47:43Speaker 13: in the best time in history talking about having to
- 47:46Speaker 13: take drugs to deal with their climate anxiety.
- 47:48Speaker 2: Can you believe it? Well, I can, because we have
- 47:52Speaker 2: had young women say that they can actually justify bringing
- 47:59Speaker 2: children into this world when the planet's about to you know,
- 48:03Speaker 2: burn them to a crysp or something. It's extraordinary.
- 48:08Speaker 13: It's it's absolutely incredible, and it's completely detached from reality.
- 48:11Speaker 13: I mean, but you see these these kind of psychotic
- 48:14Speaker 13: movements all the time where you can see the mentally on. Well,
- 48:17Speaker 13: just congregate some people. Some women are not having children
- 48:19Speaker 13: because they don't want to have children in Trumps America.
- 48:22Speaker 13: Some people are not having children because you know, they
- 48:24Speaker 13: can't put them on a vegan diet without without repercussions.
- 48:27Speaker 13: Some now women are not having kids because of climate anxiety.
- 48:29Speaker 13: There will always be a reason for these people to
- 48:31Speaker 13: not have kids, even they're realistically to begin.
- 48:34Speaker 2: With crazy times, it's the correct Thank you so much
- 48:38Speaker 2: for your time. That's it for me, Sherry Maxon next
- 48:42Speaker 2: good Night,