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LIVE: Sooners Fall Camp Preview | Jim Nagy TRIPLES Down | SEC Questions (S3 E19) · Sooner or Later Sports

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Speaker 1: Fall Camp has come up well reporting sometime this week.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that and more here on the
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Speaker 1: episode of the Sooner Elator Sports Show, me and Coop
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Speaker 1: got a lot of cool things to dive into, like
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Speaker 1: questions in regards to fall Camp. Everything starts on Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: so we've got we got our questions. We'll talk about
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Speaker 1: Jim Naggy's round of as he has been for real
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Speaker 1: like talking, and we'll wrap things up. We'll talk SEC
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Speaker 1: rankings and take all of your questions like we always do.
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Speaker 1: So let's have ourselves once again a really good time. Coop,
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Speaker 1: Happy Sunday. As our guy read Dirt Sports points out,
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Speaker 1: get in the water. It's time to get in the water.
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Speaker 1: How are you feeling? My man?
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Speaker 2: I wish I was in some water right now. It's
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Speaker 2: hot outside. My kid wanted to go. You know, she
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Speaker 2: got a new softball bat and so she wanted to
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Speaker 2: go outside and have that pitch to her a little bit.
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Speaker 2: And man, it is uh, it is hot. It is hot.
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Speaker 2: I would I mean, I have a I have a
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Speaker 2: little ice pack like back here, just behind my back,
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Speaker 2: you know, just just just because I came in just
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Speaker 2: a few minutes ago. So but no, you know, I
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Speaker 2: wish that I had some water to dive into. RDS
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Speaker 2: SA same here. But if you're wondering what heeds, it means, hey, listen,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna make some waves this year. And he is
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Speaker 2: encouraging and I know a lot of people who are
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Speaker 2: pessimistic are encouraging everybody to open your heart for for
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Speaker 2: hurt once again. But man, it's uh, it's it's good
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Speaker 2: because yeah, you said fall camp. I mean it's just
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Speaker 2: it's later this week. Uh, they are going to be
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Speaker 2: reporting and they're gonna get down to business.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, I get a lot of people don't
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Speaker 1: understand the concept of quote unquote getting in the water.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, it you say you wish
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Speaker 1: you had some water today, Let's think about this. It's hot.
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be like getting into a hot a hot
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Speaker 1: to baseball in the weather it is.
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Speaker 2: Today, It's it's better than sitting in uh, sitting in
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Speaker 2: the backyard with the the what do we got? The
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Speaker 2: six o'clock sun beating down on you and nothing but
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Speaker 2: a bunch of grass and sprinklers just went off to
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Speaker 2: It's nice little humid grass. So but yeah, uh oh,
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Speaker 2: I know, Robert, my the mansion does not have an
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Speaker 2: indoor and outdoor pool. We got a seven year old
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Speaker 2: crazy child and uh, I don't. I wouldn't trust him
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Speaker 2: with a sprinkler right now. So no pull yet, coop line.
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Speaker 1: He got a big old pool over there in that
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Speaker 1: massive mansion of a backyard he has, but we won't
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Speaker 1: know about that. What we're gonna jump into is, first off,
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Speaker 1: thank y'all for pulling up hit like buddy duty. Chance subscribe,
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Speaker 1: reate review, give us five. The other thing to point
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Speaker 1: out here, and I love this comment here we have
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Speaker 1: a semi ratio so we can win the Natty in
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Speaker 1: twenty five. Yes, that is true. That is what a
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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of this stuff is measured off of.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna jump into that. But first fall camp does
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Speaker 1: start Wednesday. Players report on Wednesday. So they're probably in
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Speaker 1: town tomorrow today tomorrow, getting the sales acclimated, chilling, probably
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Speaker 1: lifting weights, all that jazz. But fall camp starts, you'll
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Speaker 1: have way in, you'll have all of that stting down.
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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of question that we all have
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Speaker 1: for Oklahoma. There's there's a course we're not gonna be
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Speaker 1: We're not gonna lie to you and say there's no concerns,
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Speaker 1: because you knows, be real, there's always concerns out there.
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Speaker 1: But the other question is outside of the quote unquote concerns, Coop,
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Speaker 1: we need to ask ourselves what what's real that we
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Speaker 1: should be asking about for this team going forward. So
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, Coop, and I have my first
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Speaker 1: ques question and were coming into fall camp. I want
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Speaker 1: to talk defensive line. Who do you think pulls up
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Speaker 1: in that bad boy? Over three one hundred pounds? Yeah, Coop,
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Speaker 1: turn your volume up a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I might just have to talk louder. I was not
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Speaker 2: talking very loud. So there we go. If you can
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Speaker 2: hear me. Now, over three hundred pounds, I mean I
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Speaker 2: think you're in Jackson. Come in over three hundred. I
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Speaker 2: think you're gonna have dom Williams come in right around
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Speaker 2: that action. David Stone, we've already heard, We've heard a
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Speaker 2: couple of different numbers, is hovering right around the three
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Speaker 2: ten range. So you've got him in there. I would say, ge,
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Speaker 2: baby is going to be just slightly under and man,
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Speaker 2: let's see here. I would I would say that that is,
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Speaker 2: you know, as far as like the d tackles, I mean,
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Speaker 2: the guys that I'm you know, probably feeling pretty good.
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Speaker 2: I know Nigel is approaching. I think he's approaching the
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Speaker 2: two ninety to eighty five.
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Speaker 1: The late his way in, he's about two ninety.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's getting up there. I feel like there's
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Speaker 2: somebody I'm forgetting here. Who do you? Who do you
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Speaker 2: think here? Because my brain, my brain shut down. It's
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Speaker 2: it's overheated. Yeah, he was outside three cents.
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Speaker 1: Doing the Lord's work in this heat. You know that's
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Speaker 1: not something I just make as it hot outside. No,
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at I'm looking, of course on the three
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Speaker 1: hundred pound mark on the interior. So we know Stone,
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Speaker 1: we know Trent Wilson is over three hundred. We know
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Speaker 1: that at Ace, Hodge, Dom, David Rewaye, Jade and Jackson
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Speaker 1: as well as Ricky Lolohea are all over the three
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Speaker 1: hundred pound threshold. The ones you have left Grayson Halton
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Speaker 1: too ninety two, Jacob Henry two ninety five, Nigel Smith
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Speaker 1: at two ninety those are the ones that we're waiting for.
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Speaker 1: And I think Jacob Henry comes in over that mark.
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Speaker 1: I think so, And I think Grayson Halton scratches it.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he actually comes in at three hundred.
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Speaker 1: I think he stays in the two ninety ish range
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Speaker 1: with his with his capabilities case Strong's probably the one
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Speaker 1: I think that actually surpasses three. Well, he was three
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Speaker 1: oh three in the spring, but he was down on
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Speaker 1: like two ninety seven when they did the most recent
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Speaker 1: roster on the site. So I'm thinking he probably goes
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Speaker 1: right back over three hundred and maintains that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, the I mean, that's why there's a lot of people.
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Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of names right there.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: It's I remember circling back like two years ago, going
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Speaker 2: into year two, talking about how we decided that there
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Speaker 2: were more than just like five or six different defensive
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Speaker 2: players on the whole side of the ball that we
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Speaker 2: were excited to you know that could you know go
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Speaker 2: out there and not be a liability. Now, this defensive tackle,
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Speaker 2: you know, especially the defensive tackles, I mean that's why
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Speaker 2: a lot of people have them, as you know, maybe
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Speaker 2: the best defensive line in the SEC or maybe even
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Speaker 2: the country is because of the depth. It's because you're
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Speaker 2: rolling in quite a few guys. You know, there's a
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Speaker 2: lot a lot of excitement around Stone. But you know,
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Speaker 2: the the guys answered the bell last year with a
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Speaker 2: lot of people like Nick Saban saying, you know, don't
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Speaker 2: know if they could hold up in the SEC. Well,
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Speaker 2: they obviously did hold up in the SEC that you
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Speaker 2: know that came in there, and you know with the
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Speaker 2: deficient defensive efficiency numbers top fifteen in the country, and
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Speaker 2: so it is going to be Now I'm I myself
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Speaker 2: am not super worried about the defensive tackles. I think
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Speaker 2: up the middle we look gravy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of big move fools into it.
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Speaker 1: The biggest thing is a lot of big move fools.
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Speaker 1: We've got the size that we needed, and this size
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Speaker 1: that we have here is I mean, it's it. It
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Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of what we had coming out,
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Speaker 1: what what BV had at Clemson. Yeah, this is the
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Speaker 1: size of the players that he had as he built
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Speaker 1: upon things and at something, he got to where this
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Speaker 1: is what he wanted, big boys. So, like you said,
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Speaker 1: first year and Bates talked about it. I remember going
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Speaker 1: into year two. Year one they only had like one
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Speaker 1: maybe two people over three hundred there, and then year
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Speaker 1: two they had like seven, seven or eight. And the
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Speaker 1: year three we had roughly I think three when the
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Speaker 1: season started and then increased to like four or five
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Speaker 1: by the season went. But this year we've got all
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Speaker 1: but like three players on the devisive line sold. We've
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Speaker 1: got what's this not the sum undeath the total. We
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Speaker 1: got eleven players. Eight of them are over three hundred easily.
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Speaker 1: That's a massive improved you want in the interior that
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Speaker 1: you won, and then you've got with this one, two, three, four,
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Speaker 1: four dudes for three ten. That's what you need in
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Speaker 1: order to exist in the h or survive the sec
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Speaker 1: if anything, right, to be able to stop the runs
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Speaker 1: and everything. So yeah, I'm pretty excited about size. All right,
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Speaker 1: what's the next coup?
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Speaker 2: I mean, the defensive ends. This is the point where
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Speaker 2: I think the defensive tackles are undoubtedly going to be
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Speaker 2: great playmakers, and I think that they are going to
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Speaker 2: be able to hold up. You're going to be able
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Speaker 2: to rotate guys in. So you know, now I think
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Speaker 2: that it's Bates to be able to have those conversations with,
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Speaker 2: you know, with his guys. You know, what's the rotation
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Speaker 2: look like? How long do you let, you know, a
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Speaker 2: Don Williams sit out there? How long do you let
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Speaker 2: a David Stone, a Jaden Jackson. Jayden's going to be
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Speaker 2: coming back from the shoulder clean up, so you know
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Speaker 2: he's probably going to, you know, need a little bit
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Speaker 2: more time to get that strength back in and that
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Speaker 2: punch back in. So you know, that's that's that's why
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Speaker 2: he makes the good money that he makes. But the
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Speaker 2: defensive ends are where you know, the defensive statistics can
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Speaker 2: take leaps and bounds and push you from top twenty
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Speaker 2: five in the country to top twenty to top fifteen.
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Speaker 2: Is thesive line and so the edges, you know, we
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Speaker 2: saw ar Mason Thomas last year really show up in
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Speaker 2: some really really great moments, some big moments. We saw
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Speaker 2: him not only put chaos in the backfield but absolutely
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Speaker 2: take over multiple games. J and I want to see
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Speaker 2: what can we get on the other side, because God
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Speaker 2: bless Ethan Downs. That guy was just reliable. You knew
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Speaker 2: who he was, who knew what he was, and he
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Speaker 2: was that in and out day in day out. So
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Speaker 2: now who takes the mantle on the other side, and
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Speaker 2: can you develop a very very consistent pass rush Robert
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Speaker 2: put it in here, Taylor Wine, you know, coming in
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Speaker 2: right in the two seventy two seventy five range. Also
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Speaker 2: run also, I believe six or skyvish, so you add
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Speaker 2: some size on that side. Pj at Abare, Danny Akoye.
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Speaker 2: You got a lot of tools to work with on
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Speaker 2: the outside. If this defensive line really wants to go
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Speaker 2: from hey they're very good to this is an elite
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Speaker 2: and the best one in the country. You got to
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Speaker 2: have the multifaceted capabilities from the outside to not only
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Speaker 2: hold the edge and stop the run, but then also
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Speaker 2: to put pressure on the quarterback. You know, when you
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Speaker 2: run four in, you know, when you're only taking you know,
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Speaker 2: only sending four in that way, you can you know,
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Speaker 2: really really, you know, keep the coverage up. So that's
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Speaker 2: one thing that that's a question that I have going
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Speaker 2: in a fall camp because our mason I know kind
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Speaker 2: of what we expect out of him. He told us
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Speaker 2: in the SEC media days he puts some extra weight
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Speaker 2: in because he wanted to be better at the run.
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Speaker 2: What does the other side happen? Because we've been waiting
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Speaker 2: for PJ. You know, he's a five star guy. Taylor
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Speaker 2: Wyane is the up and comer. He's the guy that
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Speaker 2: I I really want a lot of people to keep
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Speaker 2: an eye on him. Danny Akoye, he's a freak of nature.
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Speaker 2: How how can he get in there and mix stuff up?
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Speaker 2: And if this defense really wants to take a step
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Speaker 2: and be, you know, feared, it's going to be because
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Speaker 2: that defensive end.
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Speaker 1: So the next question we have on here is gonna
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Speaker 1: go towards the offensive line. For me, is who steps
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Speaker 1: up and takes that left tackle spot. We know that
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Speaker 1: there are plenty of options on the offensive line for
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Speaker 1: that from Jacob's session to Logan Howland, Michael Fassousi. That
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Speaker 1: left tackle spot is gonna be the most coveted position
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Speaker 1: here on this team. So I'm curious who's the one
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Speaker 1: that's going to jump out. That's we have an idea
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Speaker 1: what the offensive line is going to look like, But
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Speaker 1: that left tackle spot to me is probably the one
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Speaker 1: that has those questions going into fall camp. You look
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Speaker 1: at it or am I wrong?
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Speaker 2: You are absolutely right. Going into last year, there were
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Speaker 2: a lot of concerns are quite not concerns, but questions
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Speaker 2: about the offensive side of the ball. But it all
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Speaker 2: started with the offensive line. And this year, we don't
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Speaker 2: have a Philadelphia State you know, week two to you know,
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Speaker 2: to roll in on. You got Michigan that comes to town,
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Speaker 2: and so you're going to have to have a a
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Speaker 2: group that is you know, obviously they're still gonna be
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Speaker 2: putting some things together. But I think the thing that
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Speaker 2: we can rely on, what's what's the stuff that we
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Speaker 2: can rely on. We don't know what this offensive line
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Speaker 2: is going to look like, but we can rly on that.
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Speaker 2: Number One, You've got experience going in last year, Jay,
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Speaker 2: you brought it up, there's a lot of there was,
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Speaker 2: you know, a lot of guys who had potential, but
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Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of snaps. Now you have a
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Speaker 2: lot of snaps. You said it. You know with Jacob Sexton,
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Speaker 2: this is a guy who you know, going into that
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Speaker 2: Florida State game, everybody was really excited about what he
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Speaker 2: was going to be for the future, and injuries and
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Speaker 2: you know, just rotational issues have really created you know,
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Speaker 2: kind of a pause on his development. So can he
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Speaker 2: take that spot and become that next guy? Logan Howland
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Speaker 2: does the shoulder surgery that he had. Now that he's
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Speaker 2: back in action, how is you know, what is he
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Speaker 2: going to do? Is he going to go out and
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Speaker 2: go no, no, no. I held this down at the end
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Speaker 2: of the season. We showed improvement. This is who I am.
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Speaker 2: And then can they keep Fasousi off the field? You know,
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Speaker 2: I think I set in our discord what's the average
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Speaker 2: snaps that he has per game at you know, twenty
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Speaker 2: and a half because you have an investment in Fasusi,
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Speaker 2: you know what he has got the capability of becoming.
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Speaker 2: And so the offensive line is going to dictate what
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Speaker 2: the ceiling is for this team. I think that that
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Speaker 2: is that I mean, I think that's where you have
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Speaker 2: to start Jay as the offensive line and if they
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Speaker 2: can come together and if you can put together five
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Speaker 2: guys who who can do what they want to do
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Speaker 2: and accomplish the goals that they have in front of them,
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Speaker 2: this team has. This team's limit is is sky high.
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Speaker 1: And I think that when you look at the left side,
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Speaker 1: because I think the right is for the most part established.
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Speaker 1: I think Derek Simmons ends up winning that job. You
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Speaker 1: don't bring him in and him practice the way rumor
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Speaker 1: has it that he practiced. He doesn't really take that position.
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Speaker 1: But you're right. The question truly is how long before
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Speaker 1: you see Fasusi and Foje on the field. Like I said,
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Speaker 1: there's no shade against any other players that we currently
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Speaker 1: have the team. We know that those two are were
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Speaker 1: very highly coveted players that should do something to push
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Speaker 1: themselves into more rotation. And when I look at the
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Speaker 1: left spot, it's tough. Sexton, unfortunately for him, was basically
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Speaker 1: in and out between left tackle and left go our
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Speaker 1: last season, so you didn't really get to see which
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Speaker 1: one he was his strongest at. And remember in twenty
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Speaker 1: three he didn't play until late in the season and
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Speaker 1: he basically played what right tackle for Tyler Geiton because
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Speaker 1: Sex and Tours acl at the Florida State and the
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Speaker 1: Cheeze At Bowl like before the game started, so you
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Speaker 1: didn't even got to see what Sexton really is as
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Speaker 1: he's moved around so much. So that question is, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think the one game. You know, you know he
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Speaker 1: played fully in that Bama game. You got a glimpse,
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Speaker 1: you got an idea of Okay, so this is what
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Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like when he's had his healthiest
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Speaker 1: But you don't know yet, Like you don't know now,
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Speaker 1: Logan Howland had his initial moments of eh, but then
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Speaker 1: he gave you some good stuff as the season progressed.
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Speaker 1: It progressed. Same thing with Jay. But and size wise,
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Speaker 1: when I looked at them, they're all in very good way.
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Speaker 1: Like Sexton's still at the three thirty range and he's
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Speaker 1: still got good mobility and movement. Jake Taylor's at three thirteen,
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Speaker 1: so he's put on a lot of weight. Logan Howland's
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Speaker 1: three twenty two, so he's put on a lot of
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Speaker 1: weight as well. Susie comes in three on nine. That
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Speaker 1: was strong, and you've seen good stuff. So yeah, we
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Speaker 1: got to see what it looks like going forward. But
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Speaker 1: you also remember, though Foge and for Susie are true freshmen,
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Speaker 1: like that's not it's not common for true freshmen to
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Speaker 1: just walk out there and get on the field immediately.
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Speaker 1: Regardless of how good they are, there's always growing pains
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Speaker 1: I mean, Cayden Proctor is considered what the top offensive
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Speaker 1: lineman in the country. His true freshman year was not
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Speaker 1: very good. Look at it. He had a lot of
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Speaker 1: moments where that were not the best. He started and
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Speaker 1: he's a good I mean, he's a good true freshman overall,
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Speaker 1: but the start of the season it was not the best.
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Speaker 1: And you know, he was targeted mainly because he's a freshman.
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Speaker 1: And if you know me, you know I tap about
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Speaker 1: this often. I don't like true freshman starting at the
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Speaker 1: beginning of the year. Mid season, I'm cool with it. Beginning,
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Speaker 1: I have more concerns because freshmen are gonna do freshman things.
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Speaker 1: They're young, They're gonna make mistakes, and a lot of
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Speaker 1: those times you don't want them to make live mistakes,
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Speaker 1: especially a good against good talent. That Michigan game would
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Speaker 1: scare me for a true freshmen, just because I know
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Speaker 1: that that defensive line would completely focus their attention on them.
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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that they won't hold up, but man,
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Speaker 1: that still terrifies me. I don't care what anybody says.
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Speaker 2: And I want to go back because you you were
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Speaker 2: talking about Sexton and you know in that Old miss
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Speaker 2: game when Sexton was in there. He got hurt right
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Speaker 2: before halftime. We were controlling things on the offensive line
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Speaker 2: pretty well, and then that's when Hallan came in and
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Speaker 2: started telegraphing his his drop and they ate the boy up.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, like you said, you know, I think
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Speaker 2: that's you know, speaking to somebody here. You know, we
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Speaker 2: were talking to somebody a couple of weeks ago and
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Speaker 2: they said, you know, really there's one spot that is
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Speaker 2: pretty much you know, set in stone at this point
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Speaker 2: or locked up, you know, on the on the offensive line,
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Speaker 2: and you've got a lot of great opportunities for guys
20:15
Speaker 2: like Jake Sexton, Jake Taylor. Jake Taylor looks like he
20:18
Speaker 2: is pissed and he all the stuff, and he was,
20:22
Speaker 2: you know, frustrated with the injuries. When it all breaks down,
20:25
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a Missouri Uh. You know, mentality with
20:28
Speaker 2: this offensive line. We have heard that they took it,
20:32
Speaker 2: they took it, took it to heart. You hear these things,
20:35
Speaker 2: you know, NFL, college football, basketball, everything. You hear these
20:39
Speaker 2: things all the time. You know, we we we had
20:41
Speaker 2: a bad year. We come together. Uh, you know, they
20:43
Speaker 2: they've we've heard in the off season the offensive line
20:45
Speaker 2: have been in working together as a group, you know,
20:48
Speaker 2: reading the film, taking, you know, steing film together, working together.
20:53
Speaker 2: You've seen the recent pictures. Jake Taylor looks like he
20:56
Speaker 2: uh he got the hook up with the Royd connection.
20:59
Speaker 2: Uh dude, just like a monster. But I'm gonna take
21:03
Speaker 2: the Missouri state of mind. It's it's the show me
21:05
Speaker 2: state and we have to see it. We have to
21:08
Speaker 2: see did all that stuff? What does that amount to?
21:11
Speaker 2: Because if you've been watching film together and you've been
21:15
Speaker 2: working your butt off and you're much much bigger, but
21:18
Speaker 2: you still play like ass, it's not good enough. And
21:22
Speaker 2: you don't want for Susie to be out there out
21:24
Speaker 2: of necessity. You want to you want for him to
21:26
Speaker 2: take a spot, you know, somewhere mid season because he
21:29
Speaker 2: took it from somebody, not because it defaulted and fell
21:33
Speaker 2: into his lap. Because if a Susie is out there,
21:36
Speaker 2: it either means that he is light years above Sexton
21:41
Speaker 2: and Hollan and guys like you know, Autry Denton, guys
21:45
Speaker 2: like who have already been in Rahm for a couple
21:47
Speaker 2: of years, or that they fell off and he was
21:53
Speaker 2: just the next option. But I do wonder what happens,
21:57
Speaker 2: and I think it may have been Gabe and Teddy
21:59
Speaker 2: may have been sooner Scoop. You know, during the summer,
22:02
Speaker 2: I don't listen to a lot of the pods, but uh,
22:05
Speaker 2: while mowing, I plowed through several of them and caught
22:08
Speaker 2: up the other day. But if Sexton, you know, did
22:13
Speaker 2: get unseated because of great play by Fasousi, I think
22:17
Speaker 2: that whoever is right next to Fasusi, it's going to
22:20
Speaker 2: have to be somebody with a lot of experience, because
22:23
Speaker 2: you want some experience sitting next to him. So could
22:26
Speaker 2: that mean a guy? Could that mean a guy slides
22:31
Speaker 2: over there into the to the left that left guard
22:34
Speaker 2: spot like Fabichi wee wu, and you know, maybe an
22:37
Speaker 2: epl on the right guard some spot like you. Those
22:40
Speaker 2: things are going to come around. And Bill being bo
22:42
Speaker 2: likes the tinker and and so the offensive line I
22:45
Speaker 2: still say, Jay is we're hearing all the stuff. Now
22:49
Speaker 2: show us because that's t and God, just you know,
22:53
Speaker 2: sacrifice the live chicken, a giraffe, you know, whatever we
22:56
Speaker 2: need to do to make sure that we keep the
22:57
Speaker 2: injury bug away.
22:59
Speaker 1: That's a good question in there. If they decide to
23:02
Speaker 1: put Fasusi in at left tackle. What experienced person would
23:06
Speaker 1: end up at guard because you know, expectations right now
23:11
Speaker 1: is that EPL takes the left guard spot as we
23:15
Speaker 1: wait to see how healthy heath o Zaida is because
23:18
Speaker 1: he had to have that clean up procedure as well.
23:21
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting one. I wonder how that would
23:25
Speaker 1: be handled and if you would move mean you technically
23:29
Speaker 1: could probably move Weaiwoo over to the left, or you
23:32
Speaker 1: put Ozeida there, put EPL on right and just have
23:36
Speaker 1: waywou be your swing and consistently kind of you know,
23:43
Speaker 1: every so often, give him a break and allow him
23:46
Speaker 1: to go out. That is that's an intriguing thought. I
23:48
Speaker 1: didn't think about it that way, doesn't consider Okay, next
23:52
Speaker 1: question I have is going into fall, who's going to
24:03
Speaker 1: be your first your your two outside wide receivers going
24:09
Speaker 1: into week one and week two. I know BV talked
24:15
Speaker 1: about Giovanni being out of the boot and on pace
24:24
Speaker 1: when it comes to playing. I guess he's on track
24:28
Speaker 1: four potentially showing up at beginning of the season. He
24:31
Speaker 1: never said which game, though I know that he mentioned
24:34
Speaker 1: before that he thought that both the Gibson boys would
24:36
Speaker 1: be ready week one but I don't expect them to
24:38
Speaker 1: make either one of them play anything before Temple if
24:44
Speaker 1: I want to be one hundred percent honest. But the
24:48
Speaker 1: question is who's gonna end up being your outside players
24:53
Speaker 1: in week one? To me, I'm still thinking Lewis and
24:56
Speaker 1: Kearney are your two guys that you go with, bigger
24:59
Speaker 1: size wires, both fast and now we get to see
25:04
Speaker 1: Zk's we're oute running capabilities, how much has he grown?
25:08
Speaker 1: But you'll still have Luckily Burks and Satania in the
25:13
Speaker 1: slot to get stuff done, which I loved hearing. I
25:19
Speaker 1: think Ben said that about Satania that he's the one
25:22
Speaker 1: player that if you want something done right, you have
25:25
Speaker 1: Satanna go out there and do it. So question is
25:27
Speaker 1: who do you think who will be emerged through fall camp?
25:32
Speaker 1: As you're outside wide receivers.
25:35
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to probably say the same as you.
25:38
Speaker 2: I heard the date that Givanni got out of the
25:40
Speaker 2: boot July first, and you know you look at four
25:44
Speaker 2: to six weeks. Four weeks is tomorrow, so that's where
25:49
Speaker 2: you get a chance to start do some work. So
25:52
Speaker 2: how long does it take for him to get out there,
25:55
Speaker 2: go through the post treatments and stuff like that. So,
25:58
Speaker 2: you know, with Illinois State being weak one, and you
26:01
Speaker 2: know we start off the show talking about hot, I
26:03
Speaker 2: will say, start hydrating now for week one because it
26:07
Speaker 2: is going to be hot as quart Ale is going
26:10
Speaker 2: to be bad. Get you some bagmen, some bagman water.
26:15
Speaker 2: I think that that's gonna be Yeah, may J take
26:17
Speaker 2: a drink just talking about it. But I hear, I hear,
26:21
Speaker 2: like you know, zon Kearny is one of my favorite
26:23
Speaker 2: recruits over the past couple of years, and it's it's hot.
26:29
Speaker 2: You know, I would almost say, you know, obviously, like
26:32
Speaker 2: a running back, if you're a running back running through
26:33
Speaker 2: the hole and you have to stiff arm somebody, your
26:37
Speaker 2: your whole bag of tricks after that point are kind
26:40
Speaker 2: of limited because you don't have the full freedom of
26:43
Speaker 2: full range of movement. And I think that the last
26:46
Speaker 2: kind of how this game was played is you know,
26:49
Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of time to do go out
26:52
Speaker 2: and do stuff and then come back to the sideline
26:54
Speaker 2: and you know, get coaching, because they had to be
26:56
Speaker 2: back out on the sideline, back out on the field.
26:58
Speaker 2: You had to have that help happened. And so yeah,
27:03
Speaker 2: you know, I think that I like your two selections
27:06
Speaker 2: whoever it is, Jane inside outside. As far as wide receivers,
27:12
Speaker 2: here's the one thing that I say, make the play
27:15
Speaker 2: in front of you and then go to the next play.
27:19
Speaker 2: It is one play at a time, whether they're blocking assignment,
27:22
Speaker 2: whether it's a route. Too many times last year we
27:25
Speaker 2: saw guys you know, break the wrong wrong way inside
27:28
Speaker 2: when they're supposed to go outside, outside when they gore
27:30
Speaker 2: supposed to be inside. You know, a a three yard
27:35
Speaker 2: dig instead of a six yard dig. You know, there
27:37
Speaker 2: was a lot of that stuff, and I think that uh,
27:40
Speaker 2: you know, kind of just going back to the why
27:43
Speaker 2: the offensive line so important is the same thing with
27:46
Speaker 2: the stiff you know scenario is if the offensive line
27:49
Speaker 2: holds up and is able to you know, give great
27:53
Speaker 2: protection the wide receivers and Materier, they're gonna find openings
27:58
Speaker 2: and you got to make the play in front of you.
28:00
Speaker 2: Because I do think that we have bye bye bye
28:03
Speaker 2: seasons in You're going to have eight to nine guys
28:06
Speaker 2: that are going to be able to run out there
28:07
Speaker 2: at wide receiver with good experience, and so you're you're
28:12
Speaker 2: going to slowly get the health back. You know, Michigan's
28:16
Speaker 2: going to have a good defense and they're you know
28:18
Speaker 2: though they lost to first round. You know, defensiveman, there's
28:22
Speaker 2: going to be some quick stuff. So what do you do?
28:24
Speaker 2: Can you run the routes on the outside or even
28:27
Speaker 2: on the sling because you know, watching Matier and watching
28:30
Speaker 2: some of the you know, some of the film from
28:31
Speaker 2: his highlights from last year, you know, they kind of
28:36
Speaker 2: had a fall off and the Wyoming game was what
28:37
Speaker 2: it was. But you know they lost three three of
28:40
Speaker 2: their last games because two of the two of those
28:44
Speaker 2: games they were also in you know, scoring at forty
28:47
Speaker 2: and Matier will find you and he does not give up.
28:50
Speaker 2: He will continue to you. As a wide receiver need
28:53
Speaker 2: to absolutely, absolutely absolutely just get yourself available and you know,
28:58
Speaker 2: when the ball comes your direct do what you need
29:01
Speaker 2: to do with it. Live to play another down, don't
29:04
Speaker 2: you know, don't be out of the don't go above
29:07
Speaker 2: and beyond yourself, because that's uh. You know, when we
29:10
Speaker 2: did five success on offense last year, Jay, we gave
29:14
Speaker 2: the ball right up. You know, Jackson had nine fumbles.
29:18
Speaker 2: I feel like Taylor Tatum had five or six fumbles.
29:21
Speaker 2: There were fumbles galore. When we finally got some momentum
29:24
Speaker 2: going and So these A wide receivers. You know, I
29:27
Speaker 2: have it written down right here. Make the play in
29:29
Speaker 2: front of you. That's it. That's all you got to
29:31
Speaker 2: worry about.
29:33
Speaker 1: Last question from foul camp. You want this one coup.
29:37
Speaker 1: We want me to throw another one out there.
29:39
Speaker 2: Defensive back Jay And I don't know if you agree
29:42
Speaker 2: with me on this one. And I'm just going to say,
29:44
Speaker 2: on the corners, we got to get healthy. Can can
29:49
Speaker 2: these guys be healthy? Gentry? This is a this is
29:53
Speaker 2: a first round all SEC type of talent that you
29:55
Speaker 2: have in Gentry. If he is able to go out
29:59
Speaker 2: and give us that and bowen after his uh you
30:03
Speaker 2: know his you know, deals with his ankle, he comes
30:07
Speaker 2: back and he's ready to go. Those are your Those
30:11
Speaker 2: your two starters. And with that being said, I think
30:15
Speaker 2: that those could be two of the best defensive backs
30:17
Speaker 2: in the SEC. And that's that's that's I didn't say
30:20
Speaker 2: the best to a best And because SEC has lots
30:24
Speaker 2: of defensive back talent and I don't know how you know,
30:28
Speaker 2: there's not a there's not a massive group of you know,
30:31
Speaker 2: superstar receivers in the SEC. You've got some of the
30:34
Speaker 2: higher ends like the Ryan Williams that Cam Coleman's You've
30:38
Speaker 2: got some of the young guys at Texas. You're you're
30:41
Speaker 2: going to have guys who are going to be able
30:44
Speaker 2: to make plays at wide rister and so you've got
30:48
Speaker 2: to be able to have the defensive backs hold in
30:50
Speaker 2: and whether it is you know, in a press coverage situation,
30:53
Speaker 2: whether it is in coverage. The good news is is
30:56
Speaker 2: I think the defensive line is going to give you
30:58
Speaker 2: a lot of help and there's gonna have to be
31:00
Speaker 2: a lot of quick reads. So you want to keep
31:03
Speaker 2: those those guys out of the out of that realm
31:07
Speaker 2: toward they're covering guys for seven, eight, nine, ten seconds.
31:10
Speaker 2: You got to get the pressure on them. Also, you know,
31:13
Speaker 2: when we do head into the zone coverage, we're gonna
31:16
Speaker 2: the every single one of these corners are going to
31:18
Speaker 2: be faster than what we're thrown out there. Last year
31:20
Speaker 2: with Woody Washington and Malone, those guys were running four seven,
31:23
Speaker 2: four eights. These guys are all faster. So how do
31:26
Speaker 2: you you know, play your quarters, play your section, play
31:30
Speaker 2: your territory in the zone of the zone coverage because
31:33
Speaker 2: I think going back with the defensive edge, if you've
31:36
Speaker 2: got the d tackles, the edge guys and the defensive backs.
31:39
Speaker 2: All you know, at the top end of the league,
31:43
Speaker 2: you gotta recipe for a really, really salty defense.
31:48
Speaker 1: Health is the critical question there, corner Spot Gentry. It
31:54
Speaker 1: sounds like, of course, he, like you said, he sounds
31:56
Speaker 1: like he's healthy. If he shows up healthy, you're good.
31:58
Speaker 1: Eli Bowen still dealing with ankle stuff, it sounds like
32:01
Speaker 1: if he shows up with you know enough, I think
32:04
Speaker 1: you're fine for me. If Eli is still dealing with
32:08
Speaker 1: said problem, you really don't need him until probably SEC play.
32:14
Speaker 1: And I say that because and this is honestly the
32:18
Speaker 1: only question slash concern of in the secondary. Michigan's gonna
32:24
Speaker 1: be a physical game of just tackling because they're gonna
32:28
Speaker 1: run the ball like crazy. I saw one of the
32:31
Speaker 1: reports out there. Actually think you know about Michigan. I
32:34
Speaker 1: don't know who the starting quarterback is yet, which granted,
32:38
Speaker 1: I get it's gonna take time to figure that out.
32:41
Speaker 1: Underwood's a true freshman. If you've just heard me about
32:44
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes ago say this, I not big on starting
32:47
Speaker 1: true freshmen for particular reasons and being the same game
32:51
Speaker 1: of the season. That's a tough game. To have your
32:54
Speaker 1: guy play in a very tough environment at the beginning
33:00
Speaker 1: of within your first two games, that makes me nervous.
33:04
Speaker 1: If I was that was us, I'd be nervous as
33:07
Speaker 1: regardless of how good I think a player is as
33:09
Speaker 1: a true freshman, I would not like a true freshman playing.
33:13
Speaker 1: But I digress. For me, it's do you want to
33:18
Speaker 1: play gentry in a game it's gonna be a just
33:20
Speaker 1: a tuckling. Would you prefer somebody else to play in
33:24
Speaker 1: that game? That would be the alternate question. I'd have
33:27
Speaker 1: to what you asked, because that is a question because
33:31
Speaker 1: I feel like Michigan's gonna be all tackling. It's gonna
33:33
Speaker 1: be us hitting someone constantly. It's gonna be less of us.
33:38
Speaker 1: It's less of us really playing and coverage, more of
33:40
Speaker 1: us coming down heill and stopping a running back going
33:42
Speaker 1: up the middle. Because they're gonna try to bully and
33:44
Speaker 1: push us around. No different than they did against Alabama
33:46
Speaker 1: the two bowl games they played against them, No different
33:49
Speaker 1: than you know they did it against Oht date against
33:51
Speaker 1: him beginning. They're gonna just try to bully you. I'm
33:55
Speaker 1: wondering what does that look like going forward? Especially for
34:02
Speaker 1: the secondary.
34:04
Speaker 2: And you know, I'll wrap it up and say this
34:05
Speaker 2: is you've got guys like Jacoby Johnson who are bigger bodies.
34:12
Speaker 2: Jacoby was you know, had a lot of snaps last
34:16
Speaker 2: year and he did a lot of great stuff. And
34:18
Speaker 2: then you know, we got so bad in the wide
34:19
Speaker 2: receiver a situation that with him over on that side
34:22
Speaker 2: of the ball, Jeremiah Nwcomb hearing a lot of great
34:25
Speaker 2: things over the summer for Nukeomb And you know, again
34:29
Speaker 2: that's another corner that you can throw out there. I
34:31
Speaker 2: see you in there that people are already talking about.
34:34
Speaker 2: Kiddle Dolby, Kindle. Dolby does great job in covering slot receivers.
34:39
Speaker 2: And I don't know if they're going to put him
34:40
Speaker 2: on the outside per se, but Dolby ain't going to
34:43
Speaker 2: be no slack. Yeah, well, he likes to hit people.
34:46
Speaker 2: He does, he does, and you know obviously that's how
34:51
Speaker 2: he got was digging in and he was up in
34:53
Speaker 2: the middle of a pile about seven guys and got
34:56
Speaker 2: rolled rolled up on. So I think that you've got
34:59
Speaker 2: a a lot of great options. And we're at a
35:01
Speaker 2: spot and I was listening to one of the pods
35:04
Speaker 2: and they broke off in mid sentence and they were like,
35:06
Speaker 2: you know, we're so used to not having so many
35:10
Speaker 2: different guys that can go out there and do things
35:12
Speaker 2: at a high level. And that's where this defense is.
35:15
Speaker 2: You know, this is you've got three years under BV.
35:18
Speaker 2: You've got a new crop of guys out there, and
35:21
Speaker 2: to have a lot of the defensive backs, it's not
35:25
Speaker 2: for lack of talent, it's how do you go Because
35:28
Speaker 2: I don't think that we're looking for the defensive backs
35:30
Speaker 2: to go from bad to good. We're looking for them
35:33
Speaker 2: to go from good to great. And I think that
35:36
Speaker 2: that is that's that's where we're going to see a
35:38
Speaker 2: lot this year and a great stat here Georgia one
35:43
Speaker 2: the SEC and finish eighty ninth. We know that, we
35:47
Speaker 2: know that BV is not afraid to to march, you know,
35:51
Speaker 2: let the guys you know, march in and out and
35:53
Speaker 2: you know, stop them down in the gold line and
35:54
Speaker 2: in the red zone. I just want to I just
35:59
Speaker 2: want to see some good stuff from those defensive backs.
36:03
Speaker 2: You hold those big receivers like a Ryan Williams. You know,
36:05
Speaker 2: we saw what Eli did to him last year. And now,
36:09
Speaker 2: granted I think that the quarterback was shook, and he
36:12
Speaker 2: didn't he didn't really want to mess around and throw
36:15
Speaker 2: the in it, throw anything. And once you get to
36:16
Speaker 2: get a quarterback shook, you know it. As a wide receiver,
36:20
Speaker 2: it's hard because you don't know if the guy is
36:22
Speaker 2: going to be running or if he's going to toss
36:23
Speaker 2: the rock. So we got options. That's it. And like
36:28
Speaker 2: I said, you know, if you are out there wondering
36:30
Speaker 2: what's the team's going to be looked like, be looking like.
36:33
Speaker 2: I don't think that we're hoping that the defensive backs
36:36
Speaker 2: are going to be good. I think we're going to
36:37
Speaker 2: see can they be great?
36:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where we're at there. So it's a good point.
36:45
Speaker 1: Well questions. We'll keep talking about foul camp here over
36:49
Speaker 1: the next few days. We'll by that of course, probably
36:52
Speaker 1: during the week. May do something on Wednesday, since it's
36:54
Speaker 1: the first day at camp. You see interviews coming out.
36:57
Speaker 1: I'm correct, the the media gets an opportunity to talk
37:01
Speaker 1: to everybody after that, so keep your eyes open. We'll
37:05
Speaker 1: probably plan something to go live all Wednesday. But thank
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37:15
Speaker 1: Naggi has been doing a press tour basically even more
37:19
Speaker 1: since sec ME. He was on the Darry Nooka show
37:23
Speaker 1: over on k raf Maan. She checked that out. Darry's awesome.
37:25
Speaker 1: I got to interview him as well. He's chopping up
37:27
Speaker 1: with him for a bit. He is dope. Naggi went
37:31
Speaker 1: on there recently and kind of expanded even more on
37:35
Speaker 1: the things that he that we've been talking about in
37:37
Speaker 1: regards to what their game plan is when it comes
37:42
Speaker 1: to recruiting and all of that stuff. He's gone and interviews.
37:47
Speaker 1: He had to meet with Naggi. What was that on
37:49
Speaker 1: Thursday night? Sad that I was on a plane from
37:52
Speaker 1: Oregon coming back so I didn't get to go. I
37:54
Speaker 1: wanted to go, but you know, work called. But that
37:59
Speaker 1: was one that you got even more out of. Is
38:03
Speaker 1: there anything that jumped out to you when you saw
38:07
Speaker 1: and heard Naggy talking with all of those outlets as
38:13
Speaker 1: of Lake.
38:15
Speaker 2: It's not lip service, and I mean I think that
38:18
Speaker 2: that is the ten thousand you know foot view. It's
38:22
Speaker 2: not it's not lip service. I mean he has a plan,
38:26
Speaker 2: is a plan that the coaching staff agrees on. You know,
38:29
Speaker 2: he made the point to go out and say, listen,
38:31
Speaker 2: these guys don't have to go out and coach an
38:34
Speaker 2: SEC football team and dig through hours and hours and
38:39
Speaker 2: hours of film. You know, whether it's a grad student,
38:42
Speaker 2: whether it is a you know, an assistant coach, whether
38:47
Speaker 2: it's you know, ja Veli himself, these guys aren't having
38:50
Speaker 2: to go through and dig all these out trying to
38:52
Speaker 2: figure out and you know, what what what what is
38:56
Speaker 2: going on? And you know that's why him and his
38:59
Speaker 2: staff I did you know we're hired into this position. Yeah,
39:04
Speaker 2: these guys.
39:05
Speaker 1: I think that's the one thing I like the most
39:07
Speaker 1: about this. The way the hiring went, and Maggie pointed
39:10
Speaker 1: that out was we're not we're taking a lot of
39:15
Speaker 1: the work off of the coaching staff's play so they
39:18
Speaker 1: can focus on coaching, which I think as fans, I
39:20
Speaker 1: should appreciate that, right right, One less thing for your
39:23
Speaker 1: coaching staff to have to do is grind tape of
39:25
Speaker 1: high schoolers while at the same time grinding tape of
39:29
Speaker 1: the opposing teams that they prepare for in the season.
39:31
Speaker 1: Having what's that six peep seven people in staff basically
39:36
Speaker 1: do majority of that and line this up based upon
39:38
Speaker 1: what they know the coaching staff likes, or just good
39:41
Speaker 1: players that are good enough. I think that's a great thing.
39:44
Speaker 2: Right I do you really want to be watching Bartlesville
39:51
Speaker 2: Ver's doing, you know, and Bartlesviller's my alma mater, celebrated
39:57
Speaker 2: a twenty fifth reunion. I did not go, but that's
40:00
Speaker 2: a that was last night. So I mean, but you
40:03
Speaker 2: don't want to be digging into that going is there
40:06
Speaker 2: somebody there that we can look at? Because I don't
40:09
Speaker 2: know if everybody here knows this, but anytime that you're
40:13
Speaker 2: a football coach and you feel like you got a stud,
40:17
Speaker 2: you're you're reaching out to schools. You're reaching out to
40:19
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, You're reaching out to Tulsa, You're reaching out
40:21
Speaker 2: to Kansas, You're reaching out to Oklahoma and saying, hey,
40:24
Speaker 2: when you come this way, you need to come through
40:26
Speaker 2: here and take a look at this guy, because I mean,
40:27
Speaker 2: he's just an absolute stud. And to that coach, that
40:32
Speaker 2: may be extremely accurate, But I'm just saying, like I said,
40:39
Speaker 2: if you, if you, if you're Miguel Chavs and you're
40:42
Speaker 2: digging in and you're seeing that you know school A
40:46
Speaker 2: in you know two A Texas or two A Kansas
40:48
Speaker 2: or two A Maryland has this dude who's you know,
40:53
Speaker 2: six foot four, two hundred and ten pounds, and he
40:56
Speaker 2: is just wrecking shop and then you look at him
40:59
Speaker 2: and you're like, yeah, you know it's hard to you know,
41:06
Speaker 2: to go well, let me go ahead and plan a
41:08
Speaker 2: trip up to Maryland just to go see maybe if
41:11
Speaker 2: this guy is somebody. And so now Naggi and that's
41:14
Speaker 2: in the Jay. Has Naggi developed, you know, not not developed,
41:20
Speaker 2: but has Naggy uncovered talent in multiple different arenas in
41:23
Speaker 2: his career? Yes, you know, he.
41:26
Speaker 1: Was questionable, kidding, kidding.
41:29
Speaker 2: He was the guy who was finding folks to come
41:32
Speaker 2: to the Senior Bowl that teams would want to see.
41:36
Speaker 2: He was hooking the the NFL franchises up with the
41:40
Speaker 2: guy from Western Carolina, the guy from Appalachian State, the
41:43
Speaker 2: guy from you know, a Juco. You know, he was
41:46
Speaker 2: go find those because he's looking for the elite traits.
41:49
Speaker 2: And I think that that's one of the big things
41:51
Speaker 2: that he says is, hey, listen, Keyboard Warriors Online, I
41:55
Speaker 2: love you all, and I'm here to make this place better.
41:58
Speaker 2: But without saying it, like I know what I'm talking about,
42:02
Speaker 2: and you have great opinions.
42:04
Speaker 1: I like that way that he kind of he really
42:08
Speaker 1: threw out there the hey, this is why we have
42:11
Speaker 1: a massive staff of people watching film to grind it.
42:14
Speaker 1: And of course he continuously reminded everybody and I think
42:18
Speaker 1: this is kind of what I want to tell everybody
42:19
Speaker 1: here today. He kept reminding everybody that everything he said
42:27
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with him determining if he's gonna
42:28
Speaker 1: have to five stars or not. What he did say,
42:31
Speaker 1: and he said this actually too. He recently said that
42:34
Speaker 1: the last regime did not have very good luck with
42:37
Speaker 1: five stars. You know, some of our favorite players have
42:39
Speaker 1: been three stars so far. But but more so, what
42:43
Speaker 1: he wanted to point out to everybody has been you're
42:47
Speaker 1: gonna have to have a mix like every recruiting class
42:51
Speaker 1: that we've ever seen. Now he's got threes, fours, and
42:53
Speaker 1: fives right now. Our blue chip ratio is that's seventy percent.
42:56
Speaker 1: And this is why I wanted to point this out.
43:00
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty six class, this class, which won't sign
43:04
Speaker 1: until December, officially in February, won't see the won't be
43:09
Speaker 1: on campus until sometime in twenty twenty six, which means
43:13
Speaker 1: in two years, three years. Technically from today, which will
43:17
Speaker 1: be twenty twenty eight, they'll be red shirt, freshman or
43:21
Speaker 1: true so that's probably when you're most likely going to
43:26
Speaker 1: get them to be effective on this roster. So what
43:29
Speaker 1: everybody's doing right now is freaking out about this twenty
43:33
Speaker 1: twenty six class, which has fifteen commits so far. They're
43:37
Speaker 1: freaking out about twenty twenty eight. The today's team is
43:43
Speaker 1: built off of top ten recruiting class twenty two, twenty three,
43:49
Speaker 1: and twenty four. Y'ah do realize that right The team
43:54
Speaker 1: that we're playing this year with this year and next
43:55
Speaker 1: year are built off of those top ten classes. I
43:59
Speaker 1: understand that you want to see the full force two.
44:03
Speaker 1: But the other thing is is that with the instability
44:07
Speaker 1: of college football today, we're still waiting to see what
44:11
Speaker 1: things are gonna getting forced or not. Believe me, they've
44:15
Speaker 1: got a list of kids, and Naggi even said this
44:17
Speaker 1: in the interview I had with them. He said that
44:21
Speaker 1: during me a week he said that on Tuesday they're
44:26
Speaker 1: re implementing and redoing their big board. They have the
44:28
Speaker 1: coloring system, and he mentioned it in another interview. They
44:30
Speaker 1: have like blue for your top players, which I think
44:33
Speaker 1: is blue chips and then other colors for other players
44:36
Speaker 1: to keep their eyes on it that they work with
44:38
Speaker 1: the staff on the staff identifies somebody, they talk about
44:41
Speaker 1: it to add them to the list, and they do
44:43
Speaker 1: evaluations and figure out the risk reward of going after
44:47
Speaker 1: that includes fives, fours, threes, twos, ones, blue zeros. They
44:52
Speaker 1: also coop have a list of players that are going
44:56
Speaker 1: to go after during this year that they feel like
45:01
Speaker 1: a flip candidates. So do not be surprised if you
45:07
Speaker 1: hear about Oklahoma trying to flip kids all season long,
45:12
Speaker 1: because the one thing that makes recruiting easier is winning games.
45:17
Speaker 1: As Georgia, when when Saban was at Bama and started
45:23
Speaker 1: coming up, guess what they used to get. They used
45:26
Speaker 1: to get kids on the Sabans count. Kids would take
45:28
Speaker 1: less to go play for Nick Saban because Bama did
45:31
Speaker 1: not have a robust in il at the time. I
45:33
Speaker 1: remember Saban losing his mind and these recordings always came
45:39
Speaker 1: out Saban quote unquote begging for money, But it was
45:42
Speaker 1: more so Saban reminding the stat reminding the boosters that hey,
45:46
Speaker 1: you wants to keep getting these top kids, y'all gonna
45:49
Speaker 1: have to come in here. And him making them publicly,
45:52
Speaker 1: putting them out there publicly, which helped Saban's case. It
45:55
Speaker 1: made those boosters have to look retro actively into this
45:58
Speaker 1: and looking look into themselves, look in the mirror, and say, yeah,
46:00
Speaker 1: we have to figure something out. Oklahoma's done something similar,
46:03
Speaker 1: which our nil is actually pretty good. We just don't
46:06
Speaker 1: spin just to spin. They try to be smart about it,
46:09
Speaker 1: which is how you win. Players like Michael Fasousi and
46:11
Speaker 1: Ryan Foget, Remember you know they were top players in there.
46:17
Speaker 1: You've got others going back in the other classes. I
46:19
Speaker 1: always have to try to remind everybody of this. Cooks
46:22
Speaker 1: like people forget that we did get top players and
46:24
Speaker 1: we still have a seventy percent blue chip ratio, but
46:28
Speaker 1: we're also going to be living in the transfer portal too.
46:30
Speaker 1: Let's how you get a jay and Ott who's considered
46:32
Speaker 1: quite frankly, it's kind of if you want to see
46:34
Speaker 1: something surprising. When you saw the all SEC teams come
46:38
Speaker 1: out and Jayden Ott was the number two running back
46:41
Speaker 1: in the SEC, transferring from cal a inferior conference, everybody
46:48
Speaker 1: thinks media wise that he's going to be one of
46:50
Speaker 1: the best running backs in the SEC. That should tell
46:54
Speaker 1: you enough, right, and you know he was a four
46:56
Speaker 1: star out of Chino, California, so he was a good player.
47:01
Speaker 1: We'll do that as well. We'll go after those particular
47:05
Speaker 1: mercenary positions, which I think are running back and wide receiver.
47:09
Speaker 1: That will help. So Coop, I liked that he's been
47:15
Speaker 1: doubling and tripling down on his philosophy, especially because in
47:19
Speaker 1: his explanation, granted we only got fifteen players, he's pointing
47:23
Speaker 1: out specifically we got into this downstream. It didn't start
47:26
Speaker 1: till March. We're downstream in twenty six because signing day
47:31
Speaker 1: is going to be December. We've got to ramp things up.
47:34
Speaker 1: But that's what we're doing. So give us the time
47:36
Speaker 1: to do it, especially because I think Lake Dawson was
47:38
Speaker 1: hired what in June? Yeah, yeah, I think he was
47:41
Speaker 1: hired in June.
47:43
Speaker 2: You got it. And you don't just hop in, you
47:47
Speaker 2: just stump in and start these relationships unless it's just absolute. Hey,
47:51
Speaker 2: here's a mask nil check. But these relationships, you know,
47:57
Speaker 2: were started when these kids were sophomores, when these kids,
48:01
Speaker 2: uh you know, were entering in their junior year. And
48:04
Speaker 2: I you know, I will say this is don't don't
48:06
Speaker 2: be surprised if you see guys like you know, Bo Bentley,
48:11
Speaker 2: the Jandreau kids, uh Roux or you don't like watch
48:15
Speaker 2: these guys. These guys are going to actually rise a
48:19
Speaker 2: little bit too. And when you start seeing them putting
48:22
Speaker 2: these elite traits out on the you know, on the
48:26
Speaker 2: football field their senior season, and they're they're gonna they're
48:30
Speaker 2: gonna rise. These things are going to happen. You know
48:33
Speaker 2: Bo Bentley, No, not very many people who knew bou
48:35
Speaker 2: Bentley was before last year. Nope. You do a lot
48:39
Speaker 2: of winning and all of a sudden your name gets
48:41
Speaker 2: a little bit more shining, and uh, you can't look
48:44
Speaker 2: at you know, the Jandrea kids and be like, I
48:47
Speaker 2: don't think these guys are gonna amount to much. They're
48:49
Speaker 2: just three stars. Like these are the guys that you're
48:52
Speaker 2: going to look in here in a couple of years
48:54
Speaker 2: and you're like, do they got another brother that they
48:57
Speaker 2: that we can we can get in here? All right,
48:59
Speaker 2: there's a lot of there's a lot of guys to
49:01
Speaker 2: Corey Smith's another one of those guys that I think
49:03
Speaker 2: is going to be an absolute stud who's going to rise.
49:07
Speaker 2: You know, Derrick Johnson. Dude comes from absolute phenomenal pedigree.
49:11
Speaker 2: Dad play the NFL, you know he was. He's a
49:16
Speaker 2: stud too. Just watch you know, these guys are going
49:19
Speaker 2: to have some rising And then I saw, but I
49:24
Speaker 2: do I you know, I think from a fan perspective,
49:29
Speaker 2: if we don't have a great year, and we had
49:34
Speaker 2: a great recruiting class, right now, it's all gone. But
49:39
Speaker 2: if you go out and you throw a good year,
49:41
Speaker 2: which is what the coaching staff is, they go out
49:42
Speaker 2: and they're expecting a really, really great year. But all
49:47
Speaker 2: these conversations where guys maybe they weren't one hundred percent
49:51
Speaker 2: sure and going, you know, diving deep on. Now they
49:54
Speaker 2: got senior film and there's going to be several guys
49:57
Speaker 2: who are going to have the opportunity to make a
50:01
Speaker 2: second thought about Oklahoma.
50:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lake Dawson was hired June around June fit so
50:06
Speaker 1: the beginning of June. So that's one of the last
50:08
Speaker 1: set of pieces you do to add to your staff.
50:11
Speaker 1: Has been roughly we're about to go in two months,
50:14
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's gonna take some time. Things are gonna
50:18
Speaker 1: look rough right now. And that's okay. We still got
50:21
Speaker 1: to December, folks, keep in mind when it comes to
50:24
Speaker 1: how this recruiting stuff is gonna progress. Thank you out
50:27
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50:33
Speaker 1: us five Coop, I've got some additional questions. We're gonna
50:36
Speaker 1: wrap things up with this. I wanna talk SCC ball
50:40
Speaker 1: and I did not tell Coop what I was going
50:43
Speaker 1: to ask him because I did not want him to
50:45
Speaker 1: be too prepared. I wanted this to come off the
50:47
Speaker 1: top of his head because I want us to have
50:49
Speaker 1: a nice discussion. And then we're gonna pull these questions.
50:51
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of questions start and we're gonna, uh,
50:54
Speaker 1: we're gonna jump in and talk about First off, let's
50:59
Speaker 1: ask this question here, Coop. The SEC last season had
51:12
Speaker 1: five teams finish with double digits. Last year WGIt Wins Texas, George, Tennessee,
51:24
Speaker 1: oh miss Missouri five. If it is the same this year,
51:30
Speaker 1: that there will be five teams that will win ten
51:34
Speaker 1: games this year. Who do you think are the five
51:35
Speaker 1: teams that will win ten games this year?
51:41
Speaker 2: Oh man? I can say that Tennessee and Missouri are
51:46
Speaker 2: probab not going to be in that crew this year.
51:51
Speaker 2: I would uh, I would say I feel good about Bamah,
51:59
Speaker 2: I think Bama is going to Yeah, I feel good
52:02
Speaker 2: about Bama. I myself a Pictou at ten and two,
52:06
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna throw Oklahoma in there. I would say
52:11
Speaker 2: I think Texas. I think Texas has a year to
52:15
Speaker 2: where they're going to be right in that area. I
52:17
Speaker 2: would not be surprised if as a nine and three
52:20
Speaker 2: finish LSU. So is that five Bama, Georgia, OU, LSU, potentially.
52:30
Speaker 1: Texas hmm okay.
52:35
Speaker 2: But I will say this, Jay, I would say that
52:39
Speaker 2: it is more likely that we have a log jam
52:42
Speaker 2: than a bunch of teams with ten wins.
52:47
Speaker 1: The point because looking at it, you had three team
52:53
Speaker 1: that went nine and four Bama, LSU, South Carolina, and
52:57
Speaker 1: then you had two teams go eight five with A
53:00
Speaker 1: and M and Florida. So it's a good point. If
53:04
Speaker 1: I was to pick five teams that I think could
53:07
Speaker 1: win ten games this season, I'm in a similar boat
53:15
Speaker 1: as you. The bigger issue is some of these teams
53:19
Speaker 1: schedules really makes it easy for the point like Missouri's.
53:25
Speaker 1: It is literally lined up perfectly for them to win
53:28
Speaker 1: ten games with them, I think they don't have a
53:31
Speaker 1: road game. They play all home games up until like
53:36
Speaker 1: mid October. I think it's like, yeah, mid to late
53:42
Speaker 1: October is let me go pull up my handy dandy
53:45
Speaker 1: SEC schedule sheet. Missouri has a home game every week
53:53
Speaker 1: up until they play Auburn on the eighteenth. Then they
53:57
Speaker 1: got Auburn and Vanderbilt on the road, and then they
54:01
Speaker 1: wrap the season up on the road against Oklahoma and Arkansas.
54:05
Speaker 1: So four actual road games that could mean that they
54:12
Speaker 1: could honestly win ten games. That they could win at
54:14
Speaker 1: least four games in conference. Question is can they win
54:20
Speaker 1: four games in conference with Arkansas, Mississippi State, Texas, A
54:23
Speaker 1: and M, Vanderbilt, Auburn, and Alabama. I don't think that
54:29
Speaker 1: they hit ten wins this year either. I actually think
54:31
Speaker 1: that Kansas pop knocks them off because I think Jalen
54:33
Speaker 1: Daniels actually plays that team actually plays better than they're
54:35
Speaker 1: supposed to think that that's probably what it's going to
54:37
Speaker 1: be tough. But if I was to pick five teams,
54:40
Speaker 1: I am with you. I think Bama gets ten. I
54:43
Speaker 1: do think LSU gets ten. I'm on the fence that
54:55
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance that South Carolina ends up
54:58
Speaker 1: with ten. There's a very good chance that Georgia still
55:05
Speaker 1: wins ten, and there's a very good chance that it's
55:10
Speaker 1: Texas or Oklahoma that also wins ten. So if I'm
55:13
Speaker 1: gonna pick them, I'm gonna say Alabama l s U.
55:17
Speaker 1: I think South Carolina ends up doing it. I think
55:20
Speaker 1: Oklahoma does it as well, and I think Texas as
55:25
Speaker 1: of right now gets the other ten wins.
55:28
Speaker 2: Here's let me let me let me say this. I
55:32
Speaker 2: think by week five we will know who Alabama is. Yep.
55:36
Speaker 2: Because Jane, if you don't know, if you realize this week,
55:41
Speaker 2: one very very hot day down in Tallahassee, they go
55:45
Speaker 2: to Florida State.
55:47
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a fun game. I don't care nobody
55:48
Speaker 1: say it's.
55:49
Speaker 2: Gonna be a It's gonna be a thick game. And
55:51
Speaker 2: I know that Florida is an sec special. To quote
55:56
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti with a in the words of the Rock,
56:03
Speaker 2: shut your mouth and know your damn role. Yea, you
56:06
Speaker 2: you played, you played, uh, the one of the weakest.
56:10
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear crap from him anyway. So
56:12
Speaker 2: you got out Florida State, Louisiana, Monroe, Wisconsin at home
56:17
Speaker 2: at Georgia. Those are their first four games. Well, you
56:25
Speaker 2: get Grubs back as the O C, and I will
56:28
Speaker 2: say that they were tied last year. You couldn't come
56:31
Speaker 2: in and it would almost be like Lincoln Riley coming
56:39
Speaker 2: into Oklahoma and having you know, Jalen Hurts as his
56:42
Speaker 2: quarterback year one. It's it's all the stuff you like
56:46
Speaker 2: to do. It kind of off the table. So I
56:50
Speaker 2: you know, so I think that whoever comes out as
56:52
Speaker 2: their quarter right now, I'm guessing uh and uh our
56:57
Speaker 2: boy here sharp shooters, but he is in in the chat.
57:01
Speaker 2: Let us know what you think, because right now, I mean,
57:04
Speaker 2: I guess if the season starts today, it looks like
57:05
Speaker 2: ty Simpson yep.
57:07
Speaker 1: And I think that that's a smart pick. He's a
57:10
Speaker 1: former five star. He was number twenty five in the country.
57:12
Speaker 1: He was the number two quarterback in his class. Yeah,
57:14
Speaker 1: Ty Simpson's most likely going to be your starting quarterback.
57:17
Speaker 2: But Alabama gets those four going, then they got Vandy
57:22
Speaker 2: and Home, and I have a feeling that they may
57:25
Speaker 2: be a little upset with what happened last year. So
57:28
Speaker 2: I think that Vanderbilt may get their brains beat in
57:33
Speaker 2: that game, especially coming off at Georgia you got Vandy
57:37
Speaker 2: at Missouri, Tennessee at home at South Carolina, LSU at home,
57:43
Speaker 2: Oklahoma at home, you get the cupcake. Eastern illanois Auburn.
57:48
Speaker 2: So I think that they better do some really really
57:51
Speaker 2: good stuff to get some going in that first four
57:55
Speaker 2: we'll know who they are. And then I want to
57:57
Speaker 2: point out South Carolina because South Carolina kind of the
58:01
Speaker 2: same situation except for the middle of their schedule is
58:03
Speaker 2: an absolute beast. They got Kentucky at home at LSU,
58:08
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma at home, Alabama at home at Ole, Miss
58:11
Speaker 2: at Texas A and M. And the end of the season
58:14
Speaker 2: with Clemson.
58:15
Speaker 1: Yep.
58:15
Speaker 2: So they you got some teams in here that the
58:20
Speaker 2: schedule looks a little a little tricksy, And I think
58:25
Speaker 2: that that's one of the big things that where I
58:27
Speaker 2: like our schedule is I like how the games are
58:29
Speaker 2: set up. You know, with us going uh. You know
58:32
Speaker 2: Texas has to go to the swamp the week before
58:35
Speaker 2: coming to coming to see us in UH in the
58:38
Speaker 2: Red River. That that that's going to be a tough
58:43
Speaker 2: game at the Swamp. No matter what Florida ends up
58:46
Speaker 2: being this, I think that that's just tough going down there.
58:50
Speaker 2: They're going to be absolutely riotous. So so jay I,
58:55
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Georgia has a
58:59
Speaker 2: you know, has a year to where they kind of
59:01
Speaker 2: stepped back and you heard Gave and Teddy two weeks
59:04
Speaker 2: in a row. They said, you get kind of the
59:08
Speaker 2: You get either either Kirby Smart is uh is playing
59:12
Speaker 2: possum or he's trying to prep people for Hey, guys,
59:16
Speaker 2: we got a lot of young folks on this team.
59:19
Speaker 2: Now they're all five stars and they all drive fast.
59:22
Speaker 2: But that was a jab of Georgian just in case
59:25
Speaker 2: you didn't catch that one. But how does this thing
59:29
Speaker 2: start happening? Because if you don't have all that age
59:31
Speaker 2: and all that experience to kind of lean back into,
59:33
Speaker 2: if you're Kirby Smart, if something starts going sideways, do
59:38
Speaker 2: people start yelling at Kirby Smart for maybe it's time
59:41
Speaker 2: for you to hit the road, jack, because that's what
59:44
Speaker 2: they did to Mark rickt.
59:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, fans are ridiculous. So of course there's already fans
59:50
Speaker 1: saying that that Kirby Smart no longer basketball. Hell, there
59:54
Speaker 1: were fans that were saying that Nick Saban didn't have
59:55
Speaker 1: his fastball anymore. Before you even retired, then you go
59:58
Speaker 1: went out. I think he won a Natty that year
59:59
Speaker 1: when really was all over him. And I mean, you know,
1:00:02
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Fans are gonna be ridiculous,
1:00:04
Speaker 1: but you're right. There's gonna be some voices. It's gonna
1:00:07
Speaker 1: be some louder voices in the back about Kirby Smart
1:00:09
Speaker 1: not having this team at ten wins and yeah, Gave
1:00:12
Speaker 1: and Teddy talked about it on the pod at Kirby's
1:00:16
Speaker 1: sounds like and this is kind of what and Chuck
1:00:18
Speaker 1: pointed it out. Kirby sounds like he doesn't sound feel
1:00:20
Speaker 1: like his team's gonna be as strong and or of
1:00:23
Speaker 1: a you know, you gotta see what you get at
1:00:25
Speaker 1: Gunner Stockton. You know, the Carson Beck experiment was solid,
1:00:28
Speaker 1: but it didn't end up being the way that they
1:00:30
Speaker 1: wanted it to go. And now you're waiting to see
1:00:33
Speaker 1: what what does Gunner give you this year? Like you
1:00:39
Speaker 1: don't have the big five star arm like you're usually
1:00:42
Speaker 1: traditionally have there at Georgia that everybody realizes is probably
1:00:47
Speaker 1: is as good as you want. And then you have
1:00:48
Speaker 1: the walk on guy. It walks up and takes over.
1:00:51
Speaker 1: We ain't seek that when don't we have that, But
1:00:54
Speaker 1: we'll see what Gunna stock then looks like. And I
1:00:56
Speaker 1: get where Kirby is on that. So I honestly think
1:00:59
Speaker 1: that they may with nine wins this year. They's still
1:01:02
Speaker 1: gonna be strong on defense. There's still gonna be a threat.
1:01:04
Speaker 1: There's not much for me to look at them and
1:01:06
Speaker 1: say that they're not gonna be great. But I don't
1:01:08
Speaker 1: think Old Miss gets to ten wins this year. I
1:01:10
Speaker 1: think that they get at most is to eight. But
1:01:14
Speaker 1: the Florida one you pointed out is very interesting one.
1:01:16
Speaker 1: Like I initially thought that Florida could sneak and get
1:01:19
Speaker 1: themselves to ten wins. But the question I have about
1:01:21
Speaker 1: Florida is this, what does Lagway shoulder look like? Now, granted,
1:01:26
Speaker 1: they've basically said that he's good to go, he's gonna
1:01:29
Speaker 1: be bawling, he's fine, blah blah blah. He didn't have
1:01:31
Speaker 1: a procedure, they just let it heal. But what the
1:01:34
Speaker 1: heck does that shoulder look like when we get into season.
1:01:38
Speaker 1: That is where I have nothing but questions about Florida
1:01:41
Speaker 1: going forward. I don't know what the shoulder looked like.
1:01:44
Speaker 1: If I knew what the shoulder looked like, I totally
1:01:46
Speaker 1: bel like they got this, but I don't know what
1:01:48
Speaker 1: they show to look like.
1:01:50
Speaker 2: Jay dude didn't throw for months. Didn't throw for months,
1:01:57
Speaker 2: and from a guy who has a destroyed shoulder. You know,
1:02:03
Speaker 2: I didn't throw my senior season in high school. And
1:02:06
Speaker 2: as I mean as a picture, it's a different, different game, right,
1:02:09
Speaker 2: didn't throw. But once I got hurt my freshman year,
1:02:15
Speaker 2: I didn't have surgery and then it didn't take long
1:02:19
Speaker 2: and my sophomore year before it was done. And football
1:02:24
Speaker 2: and this is a and he's a big dude. This
1:02:26
Speaker 2: is a big, big dude.
1:02:27
Speaker 1: He's when he will buy me. I was just like this, Yeah,
1:02:31
Speaker 1: he's he's unreal cute. I didn't realize he was this big, wide,
1:02:35
Speaker 1: broad shoulder that he was. He looks like a quarterback.
1:02:38
Speaker 2: Yes, Now, I absolutely love the running game. I think
1:02:44
Speaker 2: that if you're Florida, you need him to go out
1:02:49
Speaker 2: and be all SEC quarterback. You don't need him to
1:02:53
Speaker 2: go and throw the ball out over the yard. You
1:02:57
Speaker 2: need him to care for the football three yards in
1:03:00
Speaker 2: a cloud and dust if you have to, and let
1:03:03
Speaker 2: your team. If Florida ends up at ten wins and
1:03:06
Speaker 2: everybody is making fun of them and saying that is
1:03:08
Speaker 2: the ugliest ten win team in history. It don't matter.
1:03:12
Speaker 2: That's a winning recipe for Florida. This year ten is
1:03:17
Speaker 2: ten and you've got Long Island University. Don't know if
1:03:22
Speaker 2: that's a drudge football team, but that's Week one South Florida.
1:03:28
Speaker 2: A little bit of a test, right, It's not a scrub,
1:03:30
Speaker 2: but not a rollover. Then you're at LSU at Miami,
1:03:36
Speaker 2: Texas at home at A and M. You get to
1:03:40
Speaker 2: come home and play Mississippi State and then Georgia. This
1:03:44
Speaker 2: schedule is tough at Kentucky, at Ole, miss Tennessee, and
1:03:49
Speaker 2: then Florida State at home. So again, kind of like
1:03:54
Speaker 2: I said, you're gonna know what Bama is by week five.
1:03:56
Speaker 2: You know, week five rolls around, we're gonna have a
1:03:58
Speaker 2: pretty good idea. You know, do they have the juice
1:04:01
Speaker 2: to go out and do some damage? And again, injuries
1:04:06
Speaker 2: change everything. I think that you're putting a lot on
1:04:10
Speaker 2: that shoulder of Lagway and it's l s U, Miami, Texas, Texas,
1:04:17
Speaker 2: A and m that's a four week span with a
1:04:20
Speaker 2: buy right right between Miami and Texas. But I just
1:04:25
Speaker 2: I just yeah, absolutely, so you're going to if you're Florida,
1:04:31
Speaker 2: muck it up, win ugly, because if you can go
1:04:34
Speaker 2: out and put ten wins, I mean, hell, Florida's gonna
1:04:37
Speaker 2: love they win nine games. If you can go do that,
1:04:41
Speaker 2: you're you're pointed up, especially with that schedule. And just
1:04:43
Speaker 2: like we're talking about with US, I think us in Florida,
1:04:47
Speaker 2: if you go nine and three, you're gonna get talked
1:04:50
Speaker 2: about for the playoff because that is going to that's
1:04:55
Speaker 2: gonna be a I mean, that's gonna be a that's
1:04:57
Speaker 2: gonna be a tough that's gonna be a tough out
1:04:59
Speaker 2: to to say. Now, if it's a mucky SEC and
1:05:03
Speaker 2: there's not a you know, some of these teams are
1:05:05
Speaker 2: not as good as they looked, maybe it's a different conversation,
1:05:09
Speaker 2: but still it's gonna be nine to three in the
1:05:10
Speaker 2: SEC and you're gonna be able to point toward all
1:05:12
Speaker 2: those teams unless you lose to the three best ones,
1:05:15
Speaker 2: and then maybe maybe it's not the same conversation.
1:05:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, And for them. The sucky part for Florida is
1:05:20
Speaker 1: they got Miami and Florida State every year out of conference.
1:05:24
Speaker 1: So whenever you hear the big ten, people gaslight everybody
1:05:28
Speaker 1: about playing you know, a stronger non con. There's a
1:05:33
Speaker 1: lot of SEC teams that play a lot of P
1:05:36
Speaker 1: four teams non conference every year, guarantee. You've got Georgia,
1:05:40
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. You've got Florida, Florida State and Miami. You've
1:05:45
Speaker 1: got who is this. You've got South Carolina plays Clemson
1:05:52
Speaker 1: every year this season. You've got teams that match up
1:05:56
Speaker 1: against rivals non con every single year, guaranteed. So I
1:06:01
Speaker 1: was like, Eh, let's not pretend like they don't battle
1:06:05
Speaker 1: each other. It's there's some games that are always in there. Now.
1:06:08
Speaker 1: I mean, you mix in some other nomine and I
1:06:10
Speaker 1: saw sell somebody talking about that. I think Barry Turnal
1:06:12
Speaker 1: talking about it recently, and I will have to talk
1:06:14
Speaker 1: about that in another video. I don't want to take
1:06:16
Speaker 1: it up too much. I want to continue to talk
1:06:17
Speaker 1: SEC ball because he had some points, but there were
1:06:22
Speaker 1: some things that was complete when he talked about it.
1:06:25
Speaker 1: But got another one for you. Coop Vender built can
1:06:31
Speaker 1: Vender built win nine games this.
1:06:34
Speaker 2: Year, Diego Pavia. This was another game in seedy comment
1:06:40
Speaker 2: and I still remember because I was clearing out more
1:06:43
Speaker 2: poison ivy in between the fence right when they were
1:06:46
Speaker 2: talking about this focus, because I didn't want to end
1:06:48
Speaker 2: up in the same situation I was in. Homeboy goes
1:06:51
Speaker 2: out and says he came back to win a NASH
1:06:53
Speaker 2: Championship at vender Bilt. I will say this, Vanderbilt's not
1:07:04
Speaker 2: sneaking up on anybody again. This year. They kind of
1:07:07
Speaker 2: came up on folks. Uh, you know, after the Bama win,
1:07:10
Speaker 2: they go to Texas. Texas pretty handle them pretty well,
1:07:15
Speaker 2: the Vanderbilt and I'm gonna pull up their schedule here.
1:07:19
Speaker 1: No, I don't think they've got They got vo Tech
1:07:22
Speaker 1: since Charles in count game one, VY Tech second, South Carolina, third,
1:07:29
Speaker 1: Georgia State, Utah State, Alabama, LSU, Missouri, Texas, Auburn, Kentucky,
1:07:34
Speaker 1: and then Tennessee. I'll pull up the full schedule and
1:07:36
Speaker 1: pull on the screen so everybody can see it.
1:07:40
Speaker 2: It's it's gonna come down to this Jay. They're gonna
1:07:45
Speaker 2: have to get a couple of these teams Alabama, LSU, Texts,
1:07:55
Speaker 2: and then at Tennessee the end of the year. I
1:07:59
Speaker 2: don't think that Tennessee is going to be what they
1:08:03
Speaker 2: were even last year. But at the end of the
1:08:06
Speaker 2: year they come into you know, at Tennessee. That could
1:08:12
Speaker 2: be you know, that could be a there we go.
1:08:16
Speaker 2: That could be a pretty a telling game for you know,
1:08:18
Speaker 2: positioning in the SEC at that point. I don't think
1:08:23
Speaker 2: they got dk R and win. I don't think they
1:08:26
Speaker 2: go to Alabama. I think that Alabama game could be
1:08:29
Speaker 2: a that could be an ugly, ugly, ugly game. So
1:08:33
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that we get to see
1:08:35
Speaker 2: a lot from Vanderbilt. What do they do in Week
1:08:38
Speaker 2: three against South Carolina. If they can go out and
1:08:41
Speaker 2: win that game, or you know, be in a position
1:08:44
Speaker 2: to win that game, that may be able to tell
1:08:48
Speaker 2: us what is Venderbilt. But I think that they snuck
1:08:51
Speaker 2: up on a lot of people last year. I don't
1:08:54
Speaker 2: necessarily think that that's going to be on the table
1:08:57
Speaker 2: this year.
1:08:57
Speaker 1: I got an argument to make on that. Then that
1:09:00
Speaker 1: Alabama game, you say could be a blood bath, totally
1:09:02
Speaker 1: get you. Vanderbilt's hosting Utah State the week before, right
1:09:08
Speaker 1: the Aggies Nate Dryling's former team. He was the interim
1:09:12
Speaker 1: head coach there and they didn't want to give him
1:09:13
Speaker 1: the job, so he ended up at Arkansas State down
1:09:15
Speaker 1: here in Alklahoma. But Vanderbilt plays them the twenty seventh
1:09:19
Speaker 1: after playing Georgia State, so back to back, pretty solid,
1:09:22
Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote games, then they played Bama. Who
1:09:26
Speaker 1: does Bama played the week before they play against Vanderbilt.
1:09:29
Speaker 2: Coop Ray Charles Georgia.
1:09:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, they played Georgia the week before they played Vandy.
1:09:38
Speaker 1: So if you got Bama playing Georgia at Athens, then
1:09:43
Speaker 1: they get to come home and play against Vanderbilt. Do
1:09:46
Speaker 1: we think that there is a chance because that's gonna
1:09:49
Speaker 1: be a physical game and Georgia got revenge in their
1:09:51
Speaker 1: mind too after the way that game, would that that
1:09:55
Speaker 1: may be beneficial to Vanderbilt more than it is for Georgia.
1:10:01
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I mean absolutely yes. But I still think
1:10:05
Speaker 2: you come home no matter what happens, because if they
1:10:09
Speaker 2: go to Georgia and they lose that game to Georgia,
1:10:14
Speaker 2: who I think, Like I said, Georgia, I fully believe
1:10:17
Speaker 2: is taking a step back this year. I think that
1:10:20
Speaker 2: they're gonna have talent all over the field, but do
1:10:22
Speaker 2: they have a team. But regardless of how that game goes,
1:10:28
Speaker 2: you either get to lack your wounds and come home
1:10:30
Speaker 2: to play Vanderbilt or you're feeling pretty mighty fine about yourself.
1:10:35
Speaker 2: And then you get to come home and take some
1:10:37
Speaker 2: revenge out. I'd say typically that was a trap game.
1:10:41
Speaker 2: I think if Alabama comes somehow makes it comes back
1:10:43
Speaker 2: and wins that game, maybe can Bandy could get them
1:10:45
Speaker 2: this year. But I think that with the way that
1:10:48
Speaker 2: they at that game went down, because I mean, what
1:10:51
Speaker 2: was it forty to thirty five? I believe last year
1:10:54
Speaker 2: hold on.
1:10:56
Speaker 1: For Vanderbilt versus vander Bilt versus yes.
1:10:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty forty thirty five Alabama. And I mean and
1:11:05
Speaker 2: they also came off of a bye. You know, Vanderbilt
1:11:08
Speaker 2: came off of a bye after a doublet loss against Missouri.
1:11:13
Speaker 2: They had a bye before Bama.
1:11:15
Speaker 1: They had a bye before Bama, which now they play
1:11:17
Speaker 1: Utah State, which is quote unquote aub bye. And guess what.
1:11:20
Speaker 1: Guess where Bama came from the week before Vanderbilt last year.
1:11:24
Speaker 2: Playing Georgia at the Crib Georgia.
1:11:28
Speaker 1: You see you see now now one hundred As as
1:11:34
Speaker 1: my boy Brinsky would know Sharphooter, Sharp Shooter Sports Talk,
1:11:38
Speaker 1: you know, check them out here on YouTube. He will say,
1:11:43
Speaker 1: you know, you know, people say, hey, you know they're
1:11:45
Speaker 1: gonna be locked in for this one. But that's kind
1:11:46
Speaker 1: of the thing out here is that Vanderbilt came off
1:11:49
Speaker 1: that bye and then they play, you know, at the Crib,
1:11:53
Speaker 1: and Bama came off that big time game against Georgia.
1:11:58
Speaker 1: I think that these schedulers were some a holes by
1:12:02
Speaker 1: doing that a second year in the row. I don't care.
1:12:05
Speaker 1: Nobody say that's rude, that's rude, it's disrespectful, and it
1:12:09
Speaker 1: felt pointed they did that. But Diego Pabby is talking
1:12:13
Speaker 1: a lot of that yin yang, and I actually appreciate
1:12:16
Speaker 1: the fact that he's doing that. He was the star
1:12:19
Speaker 1: at Media Day's dog Like he was the star.
1:12:24
Speaker 2: When I would I would definitely I'd say this is
1:12:31
Speaker 2: gave me. Teddy said it. If Pavia played for Tennessee,
1:12:35
Speaker 2: if Pavia played for Missouri A and m anybody else
1:12:39
Speaker 2: and he came back and he said that, people would
1:12:40
Speaker 2: have lit him up. Pavi is kind of untouchable, pretty untouchable,
1:12:48
Speaker 2: and you know, it's I even saw somebody put out
1:12:51
Speaker 2: there on Twitters like I can't remember who who the
1:12:54
Speaker 2: talking head they were tweeting at, but like the it
1:12:56
Speaker 2: factor or like the he was like we need a
1:12:59
Speaker 2: stat for like you know, for like Diego Pavia for
1:13:01
Speaker 2: guys that just get things done. I mean, they still
1:13:07
Speaker 2: lost six games last year and uh, South Carolina they
1:13:14
Speaker 2: only scored seven points LSU seventeen, Tennessee twenty three. So
1:13:20
Speaker 2: I mean Pavia is a gamer. Dude averaged one hundred
1:13:24
Speaker 2: and sixty some passing yards one hundred and seventy passing
1:13:27
Speaker 2: yards the last six or seven games this season. I
1:13:31
Speaker 2: just I think that we get a little enamored because
1:13:33
Speaker 2: if that's a you know, they go six and seven,
1:13:37
Speaker 2: if they lost to that Alabama team. And I don't
1:13:39
Speaker 2: think people are talking about him as much, but fair,
1:13:45
Speaker 2: he's a he's just one. He's uh. I mean, he's
1:13:49
Speaker 2: like a super super super water down you know, Baker Mayfield,
1:13:54
Speaker 2: it's he's he's he's got the coach, you know, talking
1:13:58
Speaker 2: about those things too. I just wonder, I just just wonder,
1:14:04
Speaker 2: can they sneak up on anybody or somebody saying, hey, man, Vandy,
1:14:09
Speaker 2: back in your place, chief, back in your chief.
1:14:12
Speaker 1: I mean people are saying that. But I think what's
1:14:14
Speaker 1: funny as we talk about this more is Pavey has
1:14:21
Speaker 1: got all of the all of the sauce right now,
1:14:26
Speaker 1: Like he he cares a lot about winning for this program,
1:14:34
Speaker 1: which is a big deal. Like I don't think people
1:14:38
Speaker 1: understand how big of a deal to me that is
1:14:40
Speaker 1: that you've got a quarterball coming in here with this
1:14:42
Speaker 1: much confidence you want to fail.
1:14:44
Speaker 2: In the social media's, fill in social media's and feeling
1:14:46
Speaker 2: this that's your goal.
1:14:48
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that out of him, and
1:14:50
Speaker 1: he actually got me excited about watching watching Vanderbilt this season.
1:14:56
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna tune into them like crazy because another unknown,
1:15:00
Speaker 1: fat or little little nugget for everybody. Clark Lee last
1:15:04
Speaker 1: year was the defensive coordinator for the team, and he
1:15:11
Speaker 1: did it for one full season. Brought in Tim Beck
1:15:13
Speaker 1: to run his offense. So he left tim Beck do
1:15:15
Speaker 1: his thing, which we saw success out of. I think
1:15:17
Speaker 1: when seven and six, don't get it twisted that success
1:15:20
Speaker 1: for Vanderbilt, that going seven and six, he now is
1:15:26
Speaker 1: passing that mantle down to one of his assistants who
1:15:29
Speaker 1: was underneath him while he was calling said plays. That
1:15:32
Speaker 1: kind of is a thing that makes me think about
1:15:34
Speaker 1: how what I think Brent Vinibles is gonna end up
1:15:40
Speaker 1: doing next season. That this year he's gonna run it,
1:15:45
Speaker 1: we'll see success from it, and then he's gonna pass
1:15:48
Speaker 1: it down to Nate Dryling and Wes Goodwin and let
1:15:53
Speaker 1: them run his defense. But that's kind of crazy to
1:15:58
Speaker 1: see that. That's what Clark had to douse. Remember, he
1:16:00
Speaker 1: came out, he's he comes in and takes the job.
1:16:02
Speaker 1: He's two and ten his first year, five and seven,
1:16:07
Speaker 1: the next season, two and ten, the third year, and
1:16:10
Speaker 1: then last season they go to a bowl game and
1:16:12
Speaker 1: they win in the Birmingham Bowl. Seven and six. It's
1:16:14
Speaker 1: pretty darn good. When everything was just falling apart for him,
1:16:18
Speaker 1: you saw a little success in twenty two. I mean,
1:16:19
Speaker 1: you go five and seven, two and six in conference,
1:16:21
Speaker 1: you went to conference games. It's a big deal. But
1:16:23
Speaker 1: you have your goal is to get to what James
1:16:26
Speaker 1: Franklin got you back to back nine and four seasons.
1:16:29
Speaker 1: Granted Pavia has only got one year left, so you
1:16:32
Speaker 1: you've only got one opportunity to do that. But the
1:16:36
Speaker 1: Pavia thing, to me is very intriguing that if he
1:16:39
Speaker 1: can get them the nine wins, dog, I mean, he's
1:16:45
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt's done it. It's just not common.
1:16:47
Speaker 2: Yeah no, And you know, and we'll see this going
1:16:49
Speaker 2: into last year. I think that we saw a lot
1:16:52
Speaker 2: of the coaching rankings, you know, going in and clark
1:16:57
Speaker 2: Lee was right back there with Jeff Levy and the
1:17:00
Speaker 2: you know which one is the most successful coach and
1:17:02
Speaker 2: that was dude who hasn't done anything yet. So, I mean,
1:17:07
Speaker 2: clark Lee throws out nine wins. I would venture to
1:17:11
Speaker 2: say he's probably not at Vanity anymore. I would say
1:17:15
Speaker 2: that he is getting looked at by several other programs,
1:17:19
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, somebody's gonna somebody's gonna gonna poach
1:17:23
Speaker 2: him off. Somebody's gonna pay that. That's what's gonna happen.
1:17:27
Speaker 2: But again, Diego Pavia and Clark Lee have two guys
1:17:32
Speaker 2: in Oklahoma talking about Vanderbilt on July twenty seventh.
1:17:36
Speaker 1: Amen, that's the beauty of this conference dog top to bottom.
1:17:39
Speaker 1: This conference has got a lot of intriguing storylines to
1:17:43
Speaker 1: really dive into last one. And I saw somebody point
1:17:46
Speaker 1: this in here, madnim jump on. We're gonna jump into
1:17:48
Speaker 1: these questions that I've had start on here.
1:17:51
Speaker 2: Uh.
1:17:51
Speaker 1: Chuck asked the question about Scott d. Bindto wrote an
1:17:58
Speaker 1: article about John matt Is his pro football analysis on
1:18:03
Speaker 1: him on draft Wire at USA Today. This was intriguing.
1:18:07
Speaker 1: This is what he basically said. Uh, he says, of course,
1:18:11
Speaker 1: materis smaller six one two four but allows him to
1:18:14
Speaker 1: be shifty. His awareness in traffic is just average, as
1:18:16
Speaker 1: he'll let pocket compress and in gold film, but there
1:18:19
Speaker 1: is a flash of brilliance when he finds daylight in
1:18:22
Speaker 1: tight spaces. He thinks his pass is below average, and
1:18:27
Speaker 1: that's because the air raid was very much quicker and
1:18:29
Speaker 1: in rhythm. He rarely had legitimate dropbacks or whatnot. His
1:18:33
Speaker 1: arm strength and accuracy are average, with the latter barely
1:18:36
Speaker 1: getting there. He his adequate zip from a clean pocket
1:18:39
Speaker 1: with a solid base. His accuracy is barely average. Uh,
1:18:45
Speaker 1: and he's a highly effective ball carrier. So overall is
1:18:49
Speaker 1: an excellent college football college quarterback who makes things happen
1:18:52
Speaker 1: in chaos and is a threat with average tough to
1:18:55
Speaker 1: imagine his game translated in NFL or even the SEC.
1:19:04
Speaker 1: I like that he said he's an exciting college quarterback,
1:19:12
Speaker 1: But Chuck, I think this dude's all over the place
1:19:14
Speaker 1: when it comes to this statement that he didn't think
1:19:17
Speaker 1: it's going to translate to the SEC when we've literally
1:19:21
Speaker 1: seen other quarterbacks do that. Hell, Diego Popia just did,
1:19:24
Speaker 1: and we just for like the last twelve minutes. Cool.
1:19:27
Speaker 1: What you think about all the stuff I just told.
1:19:29
Speaker 2: You, Well, my coworker, mister Scott, I may have to
1:19:33
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I'm have to try to get him
1:19:35
Speaker 2: on on the on the podcast too. Here I listen,
1:19:43
Speaker 2: I work for this company, right, this is USA today.
1:19:48
Speaker 2: You are you gotta you gotta do hot takes, and
1:19:52
Speaker 2: it's here's a hot take right now or the other.
1:19:55
Speaker 2: Whether you're gonna take take a shot at him or
1:19:58
Speaker 2: you're going to prop him up. I will say this
1:20:03
Speaker 2: is he was the I mean, he was one of
1:20:08
Speaker 2: the top two, two or three whatever it is, uh
1:20:10
Speaker 2: top you know, depending on whatever you're looking at quarterbacks
1:20:13
Speaker 2: in the transfer portal this year he was. He was
1:20:18
Speaker 2: the one that I wanted out of everybody. I would
1:20:20
Speaker 2: take him every day in the week over Carson Back.
1:20:23
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, I've got It's there are some
1:20:27
Speaker 2: conversations around who he played last year. Washington was number
1:20:33
Speaker 2: twenty eight and overall defense, Yeah, he played a lot
1:20:36
Speaker 2: of guys, you know, right in the forty to fifty
1:20:39
Speaker 2: Tech Boise State, Fresno State, Oregon State. Like those guys,
1:20:43
Speaker 2: those were all decent defenses. Leave it was the Boise
1:20:48
Speaker 2: State game to where he it was a massive, massive
1:20:52
Speaker 2: comeback and say this is I think that he has
1:20:58
Speaker 2: dude squat six hundred pounds. He reminds Jay You've said it.
1:21:02
Speaker 2: He reminds you of Jalen Hurts. You know, whenever he's
1:21:05
Speaker 2: running the ball, he also is going to and I think,
1:21:10
Speaker 2: what's going to happen. We're going to see it. This year.
1:21:14
Speaker 2: He didn't have I mean, he had Ryan Williams, who
1:21:17
Speaker 2: was a you know, wide receiver or Kyle Williams, sorry,
1:21:19
Speaker 2: Kyle Williams wide receiver. Chris he went third rounds in
1:21:24
Speaker 2: in a draft. Chris Hudson, another guy five eleven, one
1:21:29
Speaker 2: seventy four. He transferred to Arizona. He's going to have
1:21:36
Speaker 2: better everything around him this year. Yeah, that's that's I mean,
1:21:39
Speaker 2: it's just true and simple. I will say that where
1:21:43
Speaker 2: we saw Jackson Arnold in his inability to make up
1:21:47
Speaker 2: a play at any point in any time. If you
1:21:50
Speaker 2: going to watch the material film, he is he is
1:21:53
Speaker 2: a guy who he's going to look like he's about
1:21:57
Speaker 2: to be sacked. And he had on three a different
1:21:59
Speaker 2: occasion and the Dylan Gabriel to Nick Anderson to win
1:22:02
Speaker 2: Texas type of pass where he takes you know, takes
1:22:05
Speaker 2: two steps towards the line, looks like he's gonna duck
1:22:08
Speaker 2: and take a sack, and then pops up and throws
1:22:10
Speaker 2: a phenomenal pass. He sees dudes wide open. I think
1:22:15
Speaker 2: that the you know, the conversation on him this year
1:22:18
Speaker 2: is you don't have to actually go out and win
1:22:21
Speaker 2: everything for this team. You need to take advantage of
1:22:23
Speaker 2: the opportunities in front of off the show by saying,
1:22:26
Speaker 2: the world wide receivers need to make the play that's
1:22:27
Speaker 2: in front of them. I think John Mattier is a
1:22:30
Speaker 2: guy who is going to You're gonna see him grow
1:22:33
Speaker 2: up and he is going to polish up a lot
1:22:36
Speaker 2: of that. I think he was sixty four percent completion.
1:22:38
Speaker 2: That's got to go up. He averaged nine yards of
1:22:42
Speaker 2: nine yards of completion, you know, so that's not super awesome,
1:22:46
Speaker 2: But I think you've got the capability of talents around him,
1:22:50
Speaker 2: whether it's guys on the outside like Jovanni Gibson, whether
1:22:53
Speaker 2: it's a guy like Dean Burt's, it's a middle Jaden Ott.
1:22:58
Speaker 2: He's got forty some on cas. I think he's got
1:23:00
Speaker 2: almost one hundred catches in his career and that's with
1:23:03
Speaker 2: an injury shortened you know year, you're going to have
1:23:06
Speaker 2: a lot of options for him. Where I think that
1:23:09
Speaker 2: Materier cannot be measured is his just ability to make
1:23:13
Speaker 2: things happen when nothing's there. And we had, you know,
1:23:16
Speaker 2: coming off a year to where we had a guy
1:23:18
Speaker 2: who couldn't make something happen when it was standing staring
1:23:20
Speaker 2: him right in the face. We're all gonna love it
1:23:24
Speaker 2: is he gonna throws to make you go. That may
1:23:27
Speaker 2: have been the stupidest thing I ever seen. I think
1:23:29
Speaker 2: he makes a few of them, and I think that
1:23:31
Speaker 2: you got to live with it. It's just like Baker,
1:23:34
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta take the good with the bad.
1:23:36
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, our friend here all over the place,
1:23:40
Speaker 2: and it's it's a hot take, you know. Like I said, Matiers,
1:23:45
Speaker 2: a lot of people are pouncing on him, like, hey
1:23:47
Speaker 2: watch out. Some people are saying Heisman, some people are
1:23:50
Speaker 2: saying offensive player of the year in the SEC this
1:23:54
Speaker 2: dude took the other.
1:23:57
Speaker 1: Next question I think is really good leads right into this.
1:23:59
Speaker 1: Do you guys think we are well prepared if we
1:24:02
Speaker 1: have another wide receiver health crisis like last season? Caleb?
1:24:07
Speaker 1: I do I what one hundred percent think that wide
1:24:11
Speaker 1: receiver wise, we are in a way better situation than
1:24:13
Speaker 1: we were last year because we're not gonna have to
1:24:17
Speaker 1: play a whole bunch of true freshmen this time around.
1:24:22
Speaker 1: We've actually got dudes that's been out there, and I
1:24:24
Speaker 1: think that Jones now has guys that he's had to
1:24:27
Speaker 1: develop and actually focus on to make this happen. I
1:24:33
Speaker 1: think that when you get you throw an ivan carry
1:24:36
Speaker 1: on out there. Of course, Jacob Jordan is gonna get
1:24:39
Speaker 1: some run. He supposedly he's been doing really good in
1:24:42
Speaker 1: a camp over the summer or whatnot in spring. Josiah Martin.
1:24:47
Speaker 1: There's another young wide receiver, but who also has experienced
1:24:49
Speaker 1: he played a cow. Those are guys, I'm telling you
1:24:51
Speaker 1: that aren't even in the tops of your depth chart yet,
1:24:54
Speaker 1: like a lot of didn'tink he's a true freshman. It's
1:24:56
Speaker 1: gonna be like ridiculously good. So he's gonna be up
1:24:59
Speaker 1: there at the top of your your sheet. Same thing
1:25:01
Speaker 1: with the many choice. But for me, I think that
1:25:07
Speaker 1: we are one hundred percent in a much better position
1:25:10
Speaker 1: in preparation for knock on wood. If anything happened to
1:25:12
Speaker 1: the wide receiver spots, with not but having two guys
1:25:15
Speaker 1: in the slot, with Seitania and Berks, having four guys
1:25:19
Speaker 1: on the outside with Kearnie Lewis and both Gibson's play
1:25:24
Speaker 1: or not. But you still got additional pieces with with
1:25:28
Speaker 1: j Mike also being a part of those outside guys.
1:25:30
Speaker 1: As five dudes on the outside, you feel comfortable with
1:25:33
Speaker 1: an Elyjah Thomas, who makes it six And I haven't
1:25:35
Speaker 1: even touched on all of the other sophomores that we have.
1:25:38
Speaker 1: I think we're in a way better position.
1:25:40
Speaker 2: Coop, what do you think statistically incapable of happening again?
1:25:46
Speaker 2: It's just last year was so was so damn detrimental
1:25:53
Speaker 2: to just the you know, the psyche of in between
1:25:56
Speaker 2: the offensive line and the wide receiver. I mean, last
1:25:59
Speaker 2: time we saw anything injury wise and it wasn't this deep,
1:26:03
Speaker 2: it was just keep components was two thousand and nine
1:26:06
Speaker 2: when Bradford and Gresham both get hurt. So I will
1:26:12
Speaker 2: say this is if Elijah Thomas has to play early,
1:26:17
Speaker 2: that's not the same thing as Ion Kearney. I think
1:26:20
Speaker 2: Elijah Thomas has the capability of being a sterling shepherd.
1:26:23
Speaker 2: Ryan Broyle's Clayton Typo wide receiver, a guy who's gonna
1:26:27
Speaker 2: come in here and throw three years together. I think
1:26:30
Speaker 2: that you get guys back in waves. You know, again
1:26:32
Speaker 2: with Andrel Anthony, it being a knee thing for a
1:26:35
Speaker 2: speed guy. You know that that was a tough pull
1:26:38
Speaker 2: because due to it right in the middle of the season,
1:26:42
Speaker 2: couldn't do anything. It just never came back. It's just
1:26:46
Speaker 2: not gonna just don't see it happening. But Jay, I
1:26:50
Speaker 2: agree with you because I think Kearney is a a
1:26:53
Speaker 2: really really big sleeper for everybody. Everybody keep keep your
1:26:56
Speaker 2: eyes on it. But if you just look at guys
1:26:59
Speaker 2: like Satania ses Lewis six two hundred pounds, you got
1:27:03
Speaker 2: Giovanni Gibbs and Jaden Gibson, Elijah Thomas, Josion Martin again
1:27:06
Speaker 2: with a lot of time, many choice. If you get
1:27:10
Speaker 2: down to many's choice, that's the bottom of the barrel.
1:27:13
Speaker 2: And he was a highly recruited guy and he's a freshman.
1:27:17
Speaker 2: You still got kJ Daniels. You still got carry On,
1:27:20
Speaker 2: who is a guy who I think is going to
1:27:22
Speaker 2: help out with having a quarterback who knows how to
1:27:24
Speaker 2: find you. But remember, please, guys, remember this. No one
1:27:29
Speaker 2: was scared of our offense. At all. Nobody did anything.
1:27:34
Speaker 2: They punked our dudes at the wide receiver spot, right
1:27:36
Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage. They dared us they couldn't.
1:27:39
Speaker 2: We knew they couldn't. Everything knew we couldn't run the ball.
1:27:42
Speaker 2: They knew we couldn't throw the ball. So the entire
1:27:45
Speaker 2: defense was with fifteen yards of the line of scrimmage,
1:27:50
Speaker 2: and we couldn't. We couldn't pull him out of it,
1:27:52
Speaker 2: couldn't pull him out of it. I don't think that
1:27:54
Speaker 2: that's even a nash here. So I think you're going
1:27:56
Speaker 2: to have more opportunity for these wide receivers.
1:28:00
Speaker 1: Exactly. Last good question we had in here to address,
1:28:05
Speaker 1: David asked a good one. No, a lot of y'all
1:28:07
Speaker 1: think this. Watched the podcas yesterday that Rodney and Calebs,
1:28:11
Speaker 1: Rodney Anderson. It's keleb Kelly put on this one Oklahoma
1:28:15
Speaker 1: basically who put the pot out. This team is going
1:28:18
Speaker 1: to be very special this year. We'll react to that. Oh,
1:28:26
Speaker 1: there are one hundred percent spot on in what they
1:28:29
Speaker 1: were saying. I'm gonna just tell you that right now.
1:28:32
Speaker 1: When we talked about Oklahoma having a chance to really
1:28:36
Speaker 1: be competitive for playoffs and all of that stuff, and
1:28:43
Speaker 1: now a lot of you won't remember this, but we
1:28:45
Speaker 1: talked about this in twenty three, had a feeling that
1:28:48
Speaker 1: Dylan Gaber was not gonna come back. Twenty twenty five
1:28:51
Speaker 1: was the year that was because when you get to
1:28:56
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, which is the season that's dudes with
1:28:59
Speaker 1: three three to four years in the BV defensive system.
1:29:03
Speaker 1: Your class of twenty two guys are now I've been
1:29:06
Speaker 1: in here for three years, they're your veterans. They're the
1:29:08
Speaker 1: ones that will be built up. And that's kind of
1:29:11
Speaker 1: the trajectory that our bent Venable's defense has always taken.
1:29:14
Speaker 1: Most of the staff, remember, came with him from Clemson,
1:29:17
Speaker 1: except for b Hall and Vly, but they basically had
1:29:21
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of dudes with them from Clemson, and
1:29:23
Speaker 1: the way they did things there was roughly by the
1:29:26
Speaker 1: time the fourth season came up, his defensive line and
1:29:30
Speaker 1: his defenses were top ten easily. Well. Last year efficiency wise,
1:29:33
Speaker 1: we were top fifteen in everybody's and in some top ten,
1:29:37
Speaker 1: So that tells you that we're at that point. We're
1:29:40
Speaker 1: at that trajectory. We expected well twenty five now and
1:29:49
Speaker 1: basically Rodney and Caleb were saying, hey, they got all
1:29:52
Speaker 1: the pieces on defense that they need. We added the
1:29:56
Speaker 1: offensive pieces that we probably needed to make sure that
1:29:58
Speaker 1: we're not worse than we were last year.
1:30:00
Speaker 2: Year.
1:30:01
Speaker 1: There's a very good chance baseball on the blue chet
1:30:03
Speaker 1: ratio is also does confirmenter nine in the country. But
1:30:07
Speaker 1: this team can compete as long as they don't fall
1:30:11
Speaker 1: apart throughout the season. I agree with them. This team
1:30:14
Speaker 1: is gonna be a lot more special than people expect
1:30:16
Speaker 1: or understand because the talent is already there. Yes, I
1:30:19
Speaker 1: understand the twenty six recruiting isn't going the way y'all
1:30:21
Speaker 1: want it to, But I'm telling y'all now, twenty six
1:30:24
Speaker 1: class recruiting matter until twenty twenty eight, when they're actually
1:30:27
Speaker 1: probably gonna have to be on the field. So, Coop,
1:30:30
Speaker 1: how do you feel about those comments from Rodney and Caleb?
1:30:34
Speaker 1: But do you think this team has a chance to
1:30:35
Speaker 1: be special?
1:30:37
Speaker 2: So you're telling me Rodney Anderson, whose brother got punked
1:30:41
Speaker 2: by the team and left the team, thinks this team's
1:30:44
Speaker 2: gonna be really, really good.
1:30:45
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, based upon what it is that
1:30:47
Speaker 1: you know yeah this, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:30:51
Speaker 2: Caleb Kelly, you know he has I think he's still
1:30:56
Speaker 2: around the team quite a bet. I know that he
1:30:58
Speaker 2: went to the ministry route. Listen, you're it's it's happening more
1:31:03
Speaker 2: and more and more. And I think that the fact
1:31:06
Speaker 2: is is you got It's not just the fact that
1:31:10
Speaker 2: this team has stepped up and filled a lot of
1:31:12
Speaker 2: the holes that that were going on everywhere else. It's
1:31:16
Speaker 2: the fact that this team also has a great opportunity
1:31:20
Speaker 2: because what's going on around the country. You got newness
1:31:23
Speaker 2: absolutely everywhere. And asterisks don't mean a damn thing to me.
1:31:28
Speaker 1: Jay.
1:31:28
Speaker 2: So if it's a weaker field this year and this
1:31:30
Speaker 2: team goes out and does something crazy and somebody says, yeah,
1:31:34
Speaker 2: but I don't care. Everybody gets to field the team
1:31:37
Speaker 2: in twenty five, what did you do with that opportunity?
1:31:40
Speaker 2: And so I just go with this is this defense
1:31:44
Speaker 2: is going to be special and with an offense that
1:31:48
Speaker 2: can hold its own, the defense has a lot of opportunity.
1:31:51
Speaker 2: Materier is going to have a lot of short fields.
1:31:53
Speaker 2: You're you're going to be able to offense. And Jay,
1:31:59
Speaker 2: I don't look had a team on this schedule. I mean,
1:32:02
Speaker 2: tell us in the chat, tell me what you think
1:32:03
Speaker 2: about it. Is there a team on the schedule that
1:32:06
Speaker 2: you're like zero chance that we can win against that team.
1:32:09
Speaker 1: Bavai said it perfectly. There's not a single team on
1:32:14
Speaker 1: this schedule where they feel like they don't have a chance,
1:32:19
Speaker 1: not any single one. And I agree.
1:32:28
Speaker 2: It's it's you got to figure that this. I say,
1:32:33
Speaker 2: the new quarterbacks, the new quarterbacks are all all throughout
1:32:36
Speaker 2: the entire schedule. The only two returning guys you have
1:32:40
Speaker 2: are Lenora Sellers. And that game was over before the
1:32:44
Speaker 2: offense ever had to do anything. And Neusmeyer well Nessmeyer
1:32:50
Speaker 2: also lost the best parts of his offensive line from
1:32:53
Speaker 2: last year, you know, the first alignment off the board
1:32:57
Speaker 2: in Will Campbell. And so you've got all those situations.
1:33:03
Speaker 2: I just I and the schedule sets up. The names
1:33:05
Speaker 2: on the schedule are daunting, but if you really dig in,
1:33:10
Speaker 2: you know the opportunity is there. So when someone says, hey,
1:33:14
Speaker 2: eight and four is the is the floor for this team?
1:33:18
Speaker 2: I can't even see. I can't see eight and four.
1:33:20
Speaker 2: I don't see four losses on this schedule. And it's
1:33:24
Speaker 2: not not a fan speaking, that's just someone who looks
1:33:28
Speaker 2: at the statistics and looks at everything out here. Now,
1:33:32
Speaker 2: what is the top end. What is the team top
1:33:35
Speaker 2: end capable of having Because they and a lot of
1:33:38
Speaker 2: these guys on defense, they've done a lot of good
1:33:41
Speaker 2: winning for their part. This offensive side, they've not gone
1:33:45
Speaker 2: out and won things yet. Point and so I just say,
1:33:50
Speaker 2: is the it's fair to say, is what can the offense?
1:33:54
Speaker 2: What's the ceiling for the because if the ceiling for
1:33:56
Speaker 2: the offense is significantly high, we're in the playoffs and
1:34:00
Speaker 2: where And that's what's gonna happen. And it's not only
1:34:05
Speaker 2: the SEC J It's everywhere. It's everywhere. Oregon starts a
1:34:09
Speaker 2: new quarterback, Ohio State starts a new quarterback, any of
1:34:13
Speaker 2: the big the big time guys. It's it's new quarterbacks everywhere.
1:34:16
Speaker 2: And yes, Materier is a new quarterback. But how many
1:34:20
Speaker 2: of these teams with new quarterbacks are looking at a
1:34:22
Speaker 2: guy who is, I mean, significantly better than what they
1:34:30
Speaker 2: had last year. I just don't. I just don't see it.
1:34:34
Speaker 1: And there's not a lot. There's not a lot. The
1:34:36
Speaker 1: SEC is dealing with a lot of quarterbacks since the
1:34:39
Speaker 1: change or whatnot. Like you mentioned, there's only really two
1:34:41
Speaker 1: teams bringing back a former starter, and everybody else is
1:34:44
Speaker 1: breaking in new guys, and you don't know what they're
1:34:46
Speaker 1: gonna look like until later in the season. You know,
1:34:48
Speaker 1: for us, we'll see a lot of the you'll see
1:34:51
Speaker 1: like a bow Pubulah from Missouri, you won't see him
1:34:54
Speaker 1: until one of the of the close the last games
1:34:57
Speaker 1: of the season, so you'll find out what he is
1:34:59
Speaker 1: then Ty Simpson, you know, Joey Aguilar or Jake Mex
1:35:07
Speaker 1: Slinger for Tennessee. Like the list of them, there's a
1:35:10
Speaker 1: ton of them that we're dealing with. But the good
1:35:14
Speaker 1: thing is this defense should improve, like you said from
1:35:16
Speaker 1: last year, because they're not gonna have situations where they were.
1:35:20
Speaker 1: They're getting the ball back immediately every single time you
1:35:23
Speaker 1: do something. So there's a bunch of good things lining up.
1:35:28
Speaker 1: But I actually believe one hundred percent what what Caleb
1:35:36
Speaker 1: and Rodney seeing because there's a lot of opportunity there.
1:35:40
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot there. There's a lot of
1:35:42
Speaker 1: opportunities there. So good stuff, good stuff, all right about
1:35:47
Speaker 1: of here, one more question here from k R. J
1:35:54
Speaker 1: Arsenal and night with Naggi. He said, we are still
1:35:58
Speaker 1: going after guys who are minute elsewhere? Do you who
1:36:01
Speaker 1: do you think flips to us if we start stacking wins.
1:36:06
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be one hundred percent honest. I have no clue,
1:36:13
Speaker 1: mainly because I know that they redid the board and
1:36:19
Speaker 1: the board focus starts on started last Tuesday of you know,
1:36:23
Speaker 1: with their color system and everything that they've introduced the staff.
1:36:26
Speaker 1: Of how they're gonna do it, I ain't got a
1:36:28
Speaker 1: clue who they decided to keep on there who's not.
1:36:33
Speaker 1: I am completely flying blind, but I'll tell you this,
1:36:36
Speaker 1: there's a lot of top players that they are gonna
1:36:38
Speaker 1: go after that they feel like will be worth it.
1:36:40
Speaker 1: Because if there's one thing that Naggie did tell me
1:36:42
Speaker 1: that I thought was very intriguing, he mentioned to me,
1:36:48
Speaker 1: and he's at this in the interview with me, that
1:36:51
Speaker 1: fans aren't privy to what the asking price is for
1:36:53
Speaker 1: a lot of these players. Sent right, we're not privy.
1:36:57
Speaker 1: We don't know he does, because he of course talks
1:36:59
Speaker 1: to all these ages and stuff. But what he said
1:37:03
Speaker 1: was the bigger problem you run into is that if
1:37:05
Speaker 1: you're going to a lot that much of your rev
1:37:08
Speaker 1: share to that player, they better be playing. You don't
1:37:11
Speaker 1: want them sitting on your bitch. Is there anybody in
1:37:15
Speaker 1: the freshman class for twenty twenty six that you think
1:37:18
Speaker 1: should be starting in twenty twenty six on your roster.
1:37:22
Speaker 1: I don't know yet. I don't I haven't dug that
1:37:28
Speaker 1: deep into it. But that's where their question is. But
1:37:30
Speaker 1: I do think, yeah, they do flip some guys cool.
1:37:34
Speaker 2: And I say this, Jay is yeah, I've heard look
1:37:38
Speaker 2: the line. I think that wide receiver is probably a
1:37:41
Speaker 2: conversation that gets had. But I will do I will
1:37:46
Speaker 2: say this. If you go out and you pay somebody,
1:37:51
Speaker 2: let's go with a big defensive lineman this year or sorry,
1:37:56
Speaker 2: coming for next year. This defensive line is young. You
1:38:01
Speaker 2: lose Gbaby and Don Williams and that's it from this
1:38:04
Speaker 2: this year unless somebody just you know, ghost pay day.
1:38:09
Speaker 2: So you would be paying close to three quarters to
1:38:13
Speaker 2: a million dollars for defensive lineman. And you run into
1:38:18
Speaker 2: the David Stone situation where David wasn't bad, he just
1:38:21
Speaker 2: had a lot of traffic out in front of him,
1:38:24
Speaker 2: and so you pay it, dude, massive chunk your rev share,
1:38:27
Speaker 2: which means you can't go after somebody else. And then
1:38:31
Speaker 2: year two you try to have the conversation, hey man,
1:38:34
Speaker 2: we gave you this money this year two money is
1:38:38
Speaker 2: x because you didn't have much last year and potential
1:38:42
Speaker 2: is there for you to go up and then due
1:38:45
Speaker 2: says I'm out. So now you just paid a guy
1:38:48
Speaker 2: a bunch of money for one year just to see
1:38:50
Speaker 2: him exit in the transfer portal. Yeah, those are the
1:38:53
Speaker 2: situations that you're seeing. Those are what you're dealing with.
1:38:56
Speaker 2: You look at guys all across the place, and that's
1:38:58
Speaker 2: that's what's gonna happen. So if you go after for
1:39:01
Speaker 2: a guy for twenty six, is it a guy that
1:39:05
Speaker 2: you think is going to be able to come in
1:39:07
Speaker 2: and play for the dollar that are asking And you
1:39:10
Speaker 2: hear it all across the board all these other podcasts,
1:39:13
Speaker 2: it's the same situation. Jay, very very plain and simple.
1:39:17
Speaker 2: Is you know Taj Overton, Taj Overton wanted a dollar
1:39:22
Speaker 2: figure from us that we were not willing to get.
1:39:26
Speaker 2: Wasn't going to see the field next year. So I
1:39:30
Speaker 2: would just say this is there's a lot of conversations
1:39:33
Speaker 2: and a lot of negative recruiting that's going on. You
1:39:36
Speaker 2: go with listen to PG. You go listen to guys
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Speaker 2: who really just do recruiting, heavy, heavy, heavy, Josh Josh question,
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Speaker 2: Brent Venables ain't going to be there a lot of
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Speaker 2: the stuff that they're being told. I think that if
1:39:51
Speaker 2: that conversation wasn't happening with cruel, I think he's in
1:39:55
Speaker 2: the fold. So you go out and put it on
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Speaker 2: the field, and all of a sudden, every bit of
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Speaker 2: that negative recruiting that kind of just kept guys from
1:40:05
Speaker 2: pulling the trigger and coming to o you. They're back
1:40:08
Speaker 2: on the table. And I will say this just on
1:40:12
Speaker 2: the absolute other side of the coin. You go out
1:40:15
Speaker 2: and it doesn't work this year, and you throw out
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Speaker 2: seven wins, I don't it doesn't matter anyway because you're
1:40:23
Speaker 2: gonna have to have more negative recruiting. You know, he
1:40:28
Speaker 2: did it again, now what? And I will just say this,
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Speaker 2: let's take away year one because we all know that
1:40:33
Speaker 2: you're coming in and just hoping that there's something left
1:40:36
Speaker 2: in the cupboard at that point. But year two you
1:40:39
Speaker 2: go ten and two, year three you have injuries galore.
1:40:44
Speaker 2: If Brent Vnnibles is who we all think he is,
1:40:47
Speaker 2: he's done the things that we think that he's done.
1:40:51
Speaker 2: There's a lot of happiness that's going to be happening.
1:40:53
Speaker 2: And there's a lot I know that I've already seen
1:40:55
Speaker 2: it here in the chat Jay, there's a lot of receipts.
1:40:57
Speaker 2: A lot of folks have receipts because it's not just
1:41:01
Speaker 2: the fact that we struggled last year. It's the fact
1:41:03
Speaker 2: that we struggled and Texas did so well, and now
1:41:06
Speaker 2: Texas is getting that hype. You go out and you
1:41:08
Speaker 2: put it on the field this year, and now it's
1:41:10
Speaker 2: the conversation back again to where this team belongs, where
1:41:13
Speaker 2: they're at, and I think that this is a year
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Speaker 2: that you have a lot of great opportunity in front
1:41:18
Speaker 2: of you.
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