Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Grant Webster: Tourism Holdings Ltd CEO on the impact of Trump's tariffs on bookings in the US division
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Net profit will be significantly lower than expected. For one
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the first locally listed companies impacted by the US
- 0:06Speaker 1: tariff regime, Tourism Holdings Limit, has sent a dramatic slowdown
- 0:09Speaker 1: in bookings by its US division. Its share price fell
- 0:12Speaker 1: more than ten per cent after announcing it was downgrading
- 0:15Speaker 1: its earnings outlook. Tourism Holding's chief executive, Grant Webster, is
- 0:19Speaker 1: with me now, thanks for your time, Grant, good morning,
- 0:22Speaker 1: good morning. How much is the political issues happening, the
- 0:27Speaker 1: volatility to blame for people not buying and renting? Are these.
- 0:33Speaker 2: It's pretty hard to get into the psyche of all
- 0:35Speaker 2: the individuals, but certainly the tour operators that we work
- 0:39Speaker 2: with out of Germany certainly say their customers are saying
- 0:43Speaker 2: just not interested in going to the USA at the moment.
- 0:47Speaker 1: How big of a reduction have you seen in the US?
- 0:50Speaker 2: So look, in recent weeks our booking intakes for the
- 0:54Speaker 2: rentals division into the US are down forty to fifty percent.
- 0:57Speaker 2: So that's it's obviously prett not quite as dramatic as
- 1:01Speaker 2: COVID when borders closed, but it's a big downgrade.
- 1:05Speaker 1: So is the slowdown reflected anywhere else?
- 1:09Speaker 2: No? In fact, from a consumer confidence perspective on vehicle sales,
- 1:14Speaker 2: it is. But in terms of tourism and people actually
- 1:17Speaker 2: traveling and wanting to rent our products, all other markets
- 1:20Speaker 2: are actually up and probably realistically experiencing some benefit from
- 1:24Speaker 2: that USA situation. So people still want to travel, but
- 1:27Speaker 2: I'll go somewhere else. Yeah.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say that it's not that
- 1:30Speaker 1: people aren't traveling, it's as they're choosing to go somewhere else.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, So Canada is probably the greatest beneficiary out
- 1:37Speaker 2: of that. You know, similar time frame, similar flight costs,
- 1:41Speaker 2: so forth, and so on. So luckily we've got the
- 1:43Speaker 2: business there in Canada that can get some benefit from it.
- 1:47Speaker 1: So, Grant, how has the company reacted to this? As
- 1:49Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, you've been through this before. We've
- 1:52Speaker 1: had the GFC and COVID and things.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Yeah, so look, the key thing for us is because
- 1:58Speaker 2: that vehicle sales under is down, we basically have to
- 2:02Speaker 2: adjust what we buy to replenish the fleet. So we've
- 2:06Speaker 2: already got that stock there. We're going to make sure
- 2:07Speaker 2: that we manage that well, manage our balance, you well,
- 2:10Speaker 2: which is in a good position. So really it's about
- 2:13Speaker 2: pulling back on investment. And you know, we're one company,
- 2:16Speaker 2: one very small company in the USA terms, and we're
- 2:19Speaker 2: pulling back our USA fleet investments significantly. So when you
- 2:25Speaker 2: talk about possible recessions in the US and you think
- 2:28Speaker 2: about that as one more example, it has to be
- 2:30Speaker 2: being felt more broadly across the economy now.
- 2:33Speaker 1: But grant, you're not going backwards a You're more just
- 2:35Speaker 1: making moves to sort of stay steady.
- 2:39Speaker 2: And yeah, around the rest of the world will continue
- 2:42Speaker 2: to grow, but in the USA, when you're down forty
- 2:45Speaker 2: to fifty percent at the moment in bookings, it doesn't
- 2:48Speaker 2: mean that's where we'll end up, because domestic is picking
- 2:50Speaker 2: up a bit as well. But you definitely have to
- 2:53Speaker 2: reduce your total fleet size and tighten it up. So, yes,
- 2:56Speaker 2: the net investment in capital that we have in the
- 2:59Speaker 2: US will go down in the next twelve months as
- 3:03Speaker 2: as a result of this situation.
- 3:05Speaker 1: How long until you're expecting things to pick up again?
- 3:09Speaker 2: All that is, that is a crystal ball that it is,
- 3:13Speaker 2: so you just.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Worrying about, right, just worrying about today.
- 3:18Speaker 2: No, to be to be fair, we are running scenarios
- 3:22Speaker 2: and I guess again a little bit like COVID, but
- 3:24Speaker 2: but not. It's a very very different situation. But we
- 3:27Speaker 2: are running scenarios for the for the medium and long
- 3:30Speaker 2: term from a Canada perspective where we're getting impacted by
- 3:34Speaker 2: the tariffs because all our vehicles are purchased in the US.
- 3:38Speaker 2: We have processes there where the industry is looking to
- 3:42Speaker 2: apply for an exemption to the tariffs, so forth and
- 3:44Speaker 2: so on. So we've really got a number of things
- 3:46Speaker 2: to play out yet.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Grant Webster, thank you so much for your time this morning.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Appreciated for more.
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