Latest / Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast / The Intel With Greg Cosell: Evaluating The Drafts Of Eagles NFC East Rivals

Transcript

The Intel With Greg Cosell: Evaluating The Drafts Of Eagles NFC East Rivals · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another episode of The Intel with Greg Gosell.
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Jeff Moser here with Adam Kaplan and of course Greg
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Cosell and has promised he's going to recap the rest
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: of the NFC East. We already did the Eagles recap
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: of their draft. Now we're going to recap the NFC
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: East rivals of the Eagles and their twenty twenty six
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: NFL Draft. And Greg, we'll start with the chief rivals.
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: One of three teams in the division that had two
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: first round picks, the Dallas Cowboys. Somebody asked me, Greg,
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: what would be a nightmare scenario for an Eagles fan?
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: This is before the draft, and I said, I don't
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: know if like Caleb Downs fell to the Cowboys, and
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: he did. He did, Yeah, he did, so obviously the
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: Cowboys get Downs and then later Malachi Lawrence, the edge
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: rusher in the first round. What do you think of
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: these two guys?
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: Well, we know Christian Parker is now there DC and
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: he comes, you know, from the Eagles where there's the
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: vic fan Joe school. So one of the things you
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: really want, and that defense is safeties that are really
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: smart and savvy. Because you start all out with that
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: quarter structure, but you do a lot off of that,
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: so your safeties have to be really smart and aware.
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: And Caleb Downs, you know, besides the physical traits, that's
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: probably you know what he is. He's just a really smart, aware,
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: savvy player sees things well. We all know that from
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: everything that we've heard probably and read and from and
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: personally from conversations, is that he just killed the pre
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: draft process with how he you know, talked about the
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: game and talked about each team's defense when he went
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: to visit each team. So you know, it's it's a
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: really really good pick. He'll be a Day one starter. Uh.
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: The thing that Greg when we look at the Cowboys
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: is that you know, they've had problems on defense, discipline, tackling,
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: all sorts of things. But to me, getting a guy
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: like Caleb Downs, it was such a good football player. Yeah,
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: you've you've talked about it before, like Russian cover, you
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: have to be good on the back end as well.
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: You got to tackle. Two safeties have to tackle these days,
• 2:07
  Speaker 3: and he's good at that one. You got, you got
• 2:09
  Speaker 3: you gotta fill it. To me, this is a foundation
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: player where you could feel, you know what, we've got
• 2:13
  Speaker 3: one here.
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing, if you want to nick pick
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: is you wouldn't say he's an exceptional, superlative athlete. But
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: he's just a really good football player. And like I said,
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: he'll start from day one. And then you go to Lawrence,
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: who was a player I really liked. And he's got
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: good size. He's six y four plus over two hundred
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: and fifty pounds. He can play four three D n
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: you know. I think that he showed both a desirable
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: combination of some strength and power. He could knock back.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: He had some knock back power, he could redirect. I
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: thought that he showed some counter moves as a pass rusher,
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: that's one thing you always look for. A lot of
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: guys can win with their initial move. But if they
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: can win with with their initial move, which will happen
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, what's next. You know a lot of
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of edge pass rushers come in the league
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: and they have to learn what's next. He had a
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: pretty good feel for that. I thought he had enough bend,
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: enough flexibility to clear the edge and flatten his rush
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: path without impacting his burst and closing speed. I thought
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: he was a really good prospect. It did not surprise
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: me that he got into the first round. You know,
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: he's he was one of those guys that I didn't
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: know much about. Watched his tape and thought, oh, I
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: kind of like this guy.
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and what made about his college coach now being
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: the defensive line coach for the Cowboys. So the familiarity
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: of that scheme there.
• 3:33
  Speaker 3: Well, they're going to thirty four member Christian Parker's coming in,
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: so they're going to go to Fangio. Yep, he'll be
• 3:39
  Speaker 3: a stand on bed show, which.
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: He can be.
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: Right, He's going to have to be because that's what
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: they're doing, you know. But Jeff, it's interesting. They're going
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: to this new new defense and typically you want to
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: have guys who fit the scheme. It's gonna be interesting
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: to see how Lawrence because there was a knock on him.
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: He's very talented, but you need to see from a
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: game out came out basis with him. So guy's the
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: first round pick, he's got to play early, Like that's
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: the responsibility when you drafted player the first round, and
• 4:11
  Speaker 3: you know their edge their edge group. Despite having a
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: lot of them last year, they didn't get the pass.
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: Now they didn't get it done. So look, Adam just now,
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: did he drafted him in the first round. He's gonna
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: be from day one. He's gonna line up as a starter.
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: He's gonna have to play himself out of that. You know.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: If he's not good enough, he's going to line up
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: with the first team. Yeah.
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: Now this edge group, Greg, because we're gonna get into
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: their next guy. And they picked it starts. It looks
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: pretty deep and talented. Now, Ezerraku, Adam had a surgery, right,
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: he's got to come back.
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but their hope is he'll be ready for training
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: caple to see.
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But so so let's just I mean, he'll play
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: this season. And you know, he was the second round pick.
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: So they trade for Shaun Gary, they draft Malick Hi Lawrence,
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: and then in the third round they go get a
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: kid from Michigan who I think you liked, right, just
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: Shan Baram.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now the question is are they going to play
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: him on the edge or are they going to play
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: him at stack backer? Because two years ago in Michigan
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: he was a stack backer and this year he was
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: played on the edge. He's an explosive athlete. Bar him.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: You know again, I haven't heard you know, what they're
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: going to do with them. So I don't know the
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: answer to that. But you know, uh, I thought at stackbacker,
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: and like I said, I did him for two years.
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: So it's so I've seen him play both positions. He's
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: he's a guy you know that I that I really
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: thought is just going to get better and better if
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: you kicked them on the edge. But I don't, you know,
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: like I said, I don't, I don't know what they're
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: gonna do with him. I mean, I mean, you guys
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: heard it all.
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: It sounded like they were talking about both inside or outside.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: You know, I was just reading Tea leaves and thinking
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: maybe Parker was looking for his version of a sim
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: pressure guy like Nikobe Deem where he's an inside backer,
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: but he'll be the fourth rusher, you know, whenever they
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: want to go to their sim packages.
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: Because don't forget if they're going to go with the
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: five to two is their base front. You know, he
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: certainly can line up on the outside. I mean, he's
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: he's two ford. But you know, think of the Eagles
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: with Nolan Smith. You know who's right around there. You know,
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: Barhm six three and a half two forty you know,
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: he doesn't have the arm lane you'd ideally like for
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: that kind of player, So it's very possible they could
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: play him as a stackbacker. Yeah. I know.
• 6:14
  Speaker 3: A scout that has an area told me that he
• 6:17
  Speaker 3: this is it's all about projection with him, because yeah,
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: he's gonna have to play one position and as an
• 6:23
  Speaker 3: edge rusher. He said, he's got a long way to go.
• 6:25
  Speaker 3: You see the tools in his body. He's explosive. Yes,
• 6:29
  Speaker 3: he wants to see further development. He needs more time.
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: And the good thing is if they're gonna play him
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: at edge, they have enough players now. They're like, they're
• 6:36
  Speaker 3: gonna have plenty of guys that could play in front
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: of them. But there's something here. I mean, there's definitely
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: something with this player.
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't forget you know Houston and Sam Williams.
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, those guys contributed at times. Williams had the injury,
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: but they've got a stable of guys that if three workout,
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: that's pretty good for them.
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if he starts off,
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: and again I don't know this, it wouldn't surprise me
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: if he starts off. It's for this reason because they
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: have they have edge players now and they have her
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: Shawn Garry, so you know, I think he's gonna start out.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: You know, they also traded for de Winters to play
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: stackpacker over shown his back. They like him. Shamar James,
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: who they drafted last year out of Florida, got meaningful
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: snaps last year. I don't know what they think of him,
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: but it wouldn't surprise me if he starts off at
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: stackbacker for them.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: All right, very very curious to hear about your thoughts
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: on their fourth round picks, because I know you liked
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: one of their guys a lot, and as I did,
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: the cornerback for Florida, Devin Moore. And also they picked up,
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: surprisingly to me, offensive tackle out of Penn State Drew Shelton.
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: Who I did not particularly like on tape. And I
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: don't know you, I know you watch Penn State every week.
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: I think he struggles.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: He struggled at Penn State. He wasn't consistent the starter.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: There, no, no, I mean I again, you know sometimes
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: that's a fourth round pick, right, yes, so you start
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: to get to the fourth round, you see him more
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: as when you get to old alignment in the fourth round. Sure,
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: if they're good enough, you know they can start, no question,
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: but I think you start to get into the point
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: where you see him as kind of a rotational guy
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: and you can teach him and coach him and maybe
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: down the road. But I thought he really had a
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: hard time in pass protection against good you know, pass rushers.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: And if you're shaking your head because you know that's
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: the case, you watch Penn State. I remember, I forget
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: who was against because I watched so many Penn State
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: games because of IONI I probably watched eight or nine
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: Penn State games. So I saw a Shelt and a
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: Ton but and I can't remember what game. I didn't
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: make the note of what game because normally I don't
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: do that when a guy is bad. But like early on,
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: he just like the first ten plays, like four of them,
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: he just got beat. Like you know, he wasn't really
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: good in past pro.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: And I believe Greg he arrived at Penn State is
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: a big time recruit too.
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: Was he was actually a tight end to start his
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: football career.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: Then he's from.
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: Here, very athletic.
• 9:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, from the Jersey area.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you in a sec. Let's see,
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: he came out of Downing Town, yeah.
• 9:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, yeah, actually, p I'm sorry. Yeah, downtown is
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: Chester County. Well, I know he's from the area. I
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: could remember, well he was.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: He was a big lunger at that you know, where
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: you bend at the waist, and that's that's a big
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: problem when you get to the NFL. But anyway, getting
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: to Devin Moore, and it's funny that you you texted
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: me he actually ran a four or five forty nine
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: of four to six.
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: But Devin sometimes the scouts, Yeah, I specifically asked and
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: he told me for six, so maybe they clocked him differently.
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: Out of Devin Moore is a fascinating guy to me
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: because he's he's been hurt a lot, and that's the
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: big deal. Now. You know, the guys who've been hurt
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: a lot, you, unless they have just special special talent,
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: are not usually high picks. They don't usually go in
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: the top sixty. But More's six y three plus it's
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: a position of need for the Cowboys. I really like
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: his traits a lot. I mean, I'm very curious. Maybe
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: I'll be dead wrong, but I'm very curious to see
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: how that plays out, because I mean, right now, if
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: we start the season now, who are their outside corners?
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: Bland Well, they they signed Kobe Durant from the Rams,
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: who you know, obviously the Rams played him outside corner,
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: but he wasn't a full time starter, So you know,
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: I think there's probably a competition there for the for
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: the outside corner position.
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: They're wide open a corner. I mean, they need they
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: need help at the corner position. You know.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: The other issue is is Caleb down is going to
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: be their slot because he can do that because they
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: did sign Jaylen Thompson from Arizona and he's a pretty
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: good football player. So now Jalen Thompson, they still have
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: Malik Hooker. They signed PJ. Lock from Denver who's played
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of snaps for Denver. So I think Downs
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: is gonna end up being their slot corner.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's no question that with all
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: the moves the Cowboys made through the out the all season,
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: they're deeper on defense and they've been in which they
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: needed to be. They're more t a but they're also deeper.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: They've got more optionality, so Christian Parker's got something.
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: To work with.
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: You thought Blandos better as a nickel, right.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: I did, But I think with the players they have,
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: he's gonna play on the outside.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, All right, let's move on to the Commanders.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have Greg evaluate three of their picks, starting
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: with first rounder Sunny Styles. Very curious. How how you'll
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: think Styles fitting into dan Quinn's defense or I should
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: say Deronte Jones defense now right?
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because now, I mean it's he comes from Minnesota.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting. And which is we I
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: don't know the answer to this. What is going to
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: be the mix? Is Jones gonna have free reign to
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: run what he wants to run, which I would think
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: would be, you know, pretty much similar to where he
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: came from with with Brian Klories. Or is dan Quinn,
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: who's a defensive guy, who are going to be a
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: mix and match.
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: I'd heard Quinn wanted to give up the the play calling.
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: He want wanted to He just wants to get a
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: better overview with football team. So he's going to hand
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: it off to him. And I'm it's gonna be whatever
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: more whatever Jones takes from.
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: Well Jones, then if he's gonna run you know a
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: lot of what you know Flora's ran, then Styles in
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: that defense could really become kind of a multi positional
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: kind of player, because there were times in Ohio State
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: he lined up on the edge as well. So you
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: know you're dealing with a guy that's six five, two
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: forty five, you know, who's kind of a freakish athlete,
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: so you know he'll be The moves they made too
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: suggests to me that they'll probably be more of a
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: Flora's defense because Leo Chanal is one of those guys.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: Frankie Louvo's one of those guys. I mean, think of
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: what Andrew van Ginko was in Minnesota. You know, Shanal
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: and Louvu sort of fit that that mold Nick Cross
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: I thought was a really good signing. He's a really
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: good safety. So you know, styles, I would imagine because
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: of everything you hear about the young man, he's going
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: to be a day one starter.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and listen, I think we all know that
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: there's there's no coach who does a better job of
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: getting free rushers at the quarterback than Brian Flores. So
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: if Deurante Jones can get free rides for sunny styles,
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: just watch out quarterbacks because that'll be pretty dangerous.
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you look at all. The They have major
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: problems with the edge last year due to injury, but
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: you now ad Dafaielway Chanell can rush the passer. Styles
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: is great. Talk about chasing a Mata who's brought up
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: for depth. They're getting Whys and Armstrong back from major injuries.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: But now the Commanders actually have depth at edge. They're
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: much better at linebacker now with Chanal, with styles, Frankie
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: Luvu could rush the passer.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like now they can finally use Frankie
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Luvu to your point, at him the right way and
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: not have to play him like in coverage and play well.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Frankie Lugu was an edge rusher in their dying package
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: the last two years, right, So I don't know if
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: they'll continue to do that. But because obviously they've got
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Away now and they've got Chase on so I don't know.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: You know, again, we don't know this stuff until things
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: start to develop. But Adam's points correct. Now they've got
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of options, all right.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: Then in the third round they took the Clemson wide
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: receiver Antonio Williams. Yeah, yeah, I feel like he wasn't
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: talked about enough by the mainstream.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: YEP. I could couldn't agree more. See, there's a perfect
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: example of a guy that you have no idea how
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: teams thought. I bet teams liked him because.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: Oh I do. Yeah, Jeff and I did a show
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: for the draft, and this is one receiver's coach. One
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: receivers coach told me, he goes he's my top like
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: not first round pick receiver. He I guess he the
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: draft process, he met with him, super smart, detailed cares.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: You just want this guy in your football team. So, gohad,
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: what did his tape look like to you?
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Greg loved his tape, you know, predominant slot receiver in college.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: But again that doesn't mean that's what he'll do in
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: the NFL. But that's what he was. He's natural quick,
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: He's incredibly loose. He's very fluid. He's got a gliding
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: feel to his game. I thought his route quickness and
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: his separation quickness were high level. He had that sudden
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: burst out of his brakes, which is exactly what you want.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't call him explosive, you know, in terms of
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: like verticality. So so you see him and you go, wow,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: he's really smooth. Though there's a loose and slippery feel
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: to him. You know, I really liked him a lot
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: and I did him less. He was a big, big
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: time recruit. He was a top one hundred prospect in
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: the nation. And you know, he led the team in
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: receptions and yards as a true freshman at Clemson. So
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: he stepped right in and was a force in college football. Now,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: he may be seen by many as a conventional slot
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: you know, again, we don't know how, you know, how
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: they're going to run their offense, but I think he
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: can work outside. You know, he's a pre snap movement
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: guy and he's all that. But he showed nuance and
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: subtle in detail as a route runner. He's got that quickness.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: I really like Antonio Williams.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they need him to be a good player,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: greg because you know, outside of McLaurin, who needs a
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: bounce back year, you're banking on guys like Brooks and McCaffrey.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: That's tough.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: So they really need a playmaker on that offense.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: No, No, and he's he's he's one of those guys
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: that probably is not gonna like he's not gonna you know,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: be sixteen yards or reception or anything like that. But
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: he's just a good football player.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Right, and then their fifth rounder was Josh Joseph.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I struggled a bit with him. There were times
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I thought that he looked like he could rush the
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: quarterback from the edge, and then when he played against
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: good offensive tackles, I thought he just got eaten up.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: And that's why it's a fifth round pick, because the
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: traits are present. Like when he looked good, he was quick,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: he was explosive, he had some suddenness to him, and
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: you felt like, oh, there's a lot to work with there.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: But too many times he just got eaten up. You know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember, was it against Alabama? You know,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: with snaps against proc or you know, and again Proctor
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: was obviously a high pick, but hey, in the NFL,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: that's you know, that's what you're playing against. You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: So I you know, like I said, you watch him
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: and you think, oh, this guy has a chance. But
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: too many times I thought he just got stuck. He was,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: and I think one reason he was he's very straight
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: line linear, like there was not a lot of bend.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: There was some coarse stiffness to him which limited his
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: bend in flexibility. So if he couldn't win right away.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it just didn't work.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Hey, Philly fans, game day is stressful enough. Parking, traffic,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: long lines, We've all been there, But when it comes
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: to your cannabis, Camden Apothecary makes it easy. This is
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: the dispensary for sports fans, just minutes outside of Philly,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: with plenty of free parking. You'll be in and out fast,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: no hassle, no waiting, and they don't just care about convenience.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Camden Apothecary is all about the guest experience. Their staff
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: makes sure you feel taken care of every time you
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: walk in. Plus, they carry only the best quality cannabis
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: at the fairest prices, so whether you're stocking up for
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: the tailgate, the watch party, or celebrating a big win,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: you know you're getting the good stuff without overpaying. They
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: even show love to the community with specials for fans, students,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: service members, and healthcare pros. Cammed in Apothecary. Top quality cannabis,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: great prices, and an experience made for Philly fans twenty
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: one and up. All right, let's finish it off with
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: the giants, Greg and they are getting praised universally for
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: their top three by everybody except for renowned draft analyst
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors. Everybody else seems to really like their picks
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: of Rvel Reese in the first round, and then Francis
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Mally Noah in this first round, and then Colton Hood
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: a top corner prospect in the second round.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And so I guess, Mylak Neighbors, did he retire and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: move into personnel?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: What did he say he was?
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: He was on like a pod kind of like questioning
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: why where would fit in the defense with all their
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: other pastors?
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, come on, yeah, yeah, I guess he didn't see
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the tape or talk to anyone, but.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe retired moved into personnel. Well I think, well, obviously, look,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: you know how I feel about Reese. We've we've discussed him.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I you know, I think he's just a really good player,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and he's twenty years old, so he's only going to
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: get better and better. Denard Wilson is their new defensive coordinator.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: He's he's a nobs guy, Dinard. So I mean it's
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: going to be really interesting and uh uh and and
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: now we know what he's going to start at right guard.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the bottom line. Because they have.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: You know, it'll be interesting if this old line can
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: stay healthy because if the on line can stay healthy,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: ilumin Or and Thomas are solid offensive tackles. You know,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Thomas can be very good. He just hasn't been able
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: to stay on the field. So Mali Nogan is going
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: to move into right guard, which myself and other O
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: line coaches I've spoken to and I know Adam you've
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: done that as well, feel that he could be an
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: all Pro offensive guard. You know. So we'll see how
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: they feel about the two of those guys. But you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: it's you know, obviously they feel that he's a plug
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: and play guy, which he will be, you know, And
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: then they drafted duck fields and Notre Dame receiver as
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: well in the third round. See, I think there's nothing
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: not to like about him except he's not fast. But man,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: he's competitive, he catches everything. He's really long. He's just
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: not fast. So how do you factor that in with
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: a guy like that? You know, I mean, can he
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: be a boundary X given that he's six', FOUR i,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: mean neighbors can line up. Anywhere you, Know neighbors is,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: great so he can line up. Anywhere probably you know
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: two under their eight ar signings at receiver Are moodey In.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Austin but they're not, superstars but THEY'RE nfl. Receivers and you,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: know you could probably make the point that The giants
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: probably haven't had a lot of those guys in recent.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Years those GUYS arefl. Receivers, yeah don't.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Forget they brought in Likely, Isaiah like they still Have Theo,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: johnson who's you, know got talent as you, Know jeff
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: being A Penn, stater you, know he's not a.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Stiff he's got some. Talent.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, YEAH i think they have a more diverse That
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: we were saying this about The eagles, too but The
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: giants have a more diverse set of weapons now to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the use and then good.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Running oh, yeah and probably the key to The giants
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: in their entire season will Be Patrick. Ricard oh it's,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: right that's.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Right with with the card coming, In, yeah that's, right
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: that's right as a. Fullback, yeah they're gonna actually a fullback.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: So they can line up with a lot of different personnel,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: packages which is probably what they. Want.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah one thing ON rfl Race Greg so obviously he's
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: a linebacker, first but it could do edge he's gonna
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: play next to guy you did not like his, Tape
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Tremaine edmonds last. SEASON i mean you were very.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: HONEST i did, not AND i think that there are
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: others who don't as. Well let's leave it at. That
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: okay in THE.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Nfl, okay, Okay but what Could rees do from an
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: inside backer? Perspective in the?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Look the bottom line is At Penn state under excuse,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: me At Ohio state Under, matchatricia he played almost an
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: equal number of snaps stacked and on the. Edge he
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: can be a great. STACKBACKER i mean, AGAIN i loved
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: him as an age rusher down the, road AND i
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: think he could be a, dominant dominant. Player doesn't mean
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: that won't, happen but right now they see him as
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: a stack. Backer and by the, way With edmunds And,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: reese that is tremendous size inside at. Stackbacker both guys
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: are over sixty. Four you, Know edmunds is not what he,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: was but he's you, know he's going to. Start And
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: reese is a truly explosive. Athlete he's very good at.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Stackbacker it's not that he's only good on the. Edge
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: he's very good at stackbacker as. Well so you, know believe,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: ME i commend The giants if that's where they want
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to play. Him line them up there from day one
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: when you start your mini, camp WHICH i know starts very,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: soon let him really learn that from the you, know THE,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: nfl and let them let him. Go and then down
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the road if you feel, like, hey this guy can
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: really rush the, quarterback you, know kind of the guy
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: that's lost in the Whole giants deal is Cave On.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Thibodeaux you, know you, know he hasn't really turned out to,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: be you, know a top five pick in terms of, production.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: RIGHT i Then Colton Hood Greg, Finally.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Colt HUD's good. Player you, KNOW i liked him a.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Lot he's, long he's, athletic he's. PHYSICAL i think he'll
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: eventually be a starting corner for, them because right, now
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: if you look at their starting, CORNERS i assume a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: debo will start at ONE. G they've Got, newsom who
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: has also played a ton of. Slot, Now Drew phillips
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: is not a bad. Slot but If Colton hood develops,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: quickly and we don't you, know, again that's an unknown
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: as we speak, today but If hood develops, quickly it
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: would not surprise. Me if the outside corners became a
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: debo And hood And newsome moved inside where he's played
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: a lot in THE nfl and his and is, good
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: good at.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: It, no and Then drew would be a. DIMEBACK i guess.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: YEAH i, thought, yeah tell you what THIS Nfc east
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be because pretty, interesting so much, change, chef
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: and this is really fun Hearing greg talk about all these.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: PLAYERS i Know eagle fans don't want to hear, this
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: BUT i think that in, FACT i know the division's
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: improved how.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: MUCH i mean it starts with, coaching. Right you Get
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: parker with The, cowboys you Get Deronte jones with The,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: commanders you Get hardball with The, giants and and all
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the guys he brought in. There there's THERE'S i think
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: there's some better coaching which is gonna lead to most
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: likely better development uh of players in the.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Division and we will bring you.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Back of, course YOU wi will always do OUR Nfc
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: east preview as we get into the, summer and you
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: always break down and tape for us phenomenally for. That
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: but that is gonna do it for this season's worth
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: of intel With Greg. Cosell thanks again To greg For Adam.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Kaplan I'm Jeff. Mosher you've been watching The intel With
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Greg cosell on inside the burd