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The Late Debate | 20 January · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late General, Welcome to the Late Base.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and thanks for joining us on the
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  Speaker 2: Late Debate. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up tonight, the New Zealand Parliament is set to
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  Speaker 2: grant a mountain the same rights as human beings. You
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  Speaker 2: think we've got problems here in Australia not being able
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  Speaker 2: to tell the difference between a man and a woman.
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  Speaker 2: Well across the ditch, they don't know the difference between
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  Speaker 2: a pile of rocks and a person.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to that a bit later.
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  Speaker 2: Plus, when we look at the papers, the number of
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  Speaker 2: businesses going out of business in Victoria reaches record levels.
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  Speaker 2: And an interesting story on the front page of Tomorrow's Australian,
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  Speaker 2: a violent former immigration detainee claims he's not a threat
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  Speaker 2: to the public right after being released from prison having
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  Speaker 2: been convicted of fighting in public.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to that one.
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  Speaker 2: Shortly, but you know, on the Late Debate we love
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  Speaker 2: to make fun and have a laugh at local councils
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  Speaker 2: doing dumb things, and to be honest with you, every
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  Speaker 2: week we are spoilt for choice.
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  Speaker 3: Normally it's fun stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they fly the pan sexual flag over town Hall,
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  Speaker 2: or install the kid's playground with no kids play equipment
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  Speaker 2: in it. But we want to draw your attention tonight
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  Speaker 2: to the City of Melbourne where they used ten million
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  Speaker 2: dollars of pandemic recovery money to bankroll forty kilometers of
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  Speaker 2: bike lanes through the CBD. Now you should immediately be
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  Speaker 2: able to see the problem with this. The money, partly
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  Speaker 2: provided by the state government, was meant to help small
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  Speaker 2: businesses by kickstarting the city economy that was dilapidated by
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  Speaker 2: the pandemic lockdowns. Well what did the city councilors do?
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  Speaker 2: They thought, you know what, nothing will help inner city
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  Speaker 2: retailers more than removing cars from the city and replacing
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  Speaker 2: them with barely used bike lanes that serve no practical
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  Speaker 2: purpose aside from scratching an ideological itch in town Hall.
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  Speaker 2: The Herald Sun got hold of freedom of information documents
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  Speaker 2: that revealed the recovery fund there was one hundred million
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  Speaker 2: dollars in total, but they used well over ten million
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  Speaker 2: dollars for things like street projects and the bike lane rollout.
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  Speaker 2: There was also a two point six million dollar program
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  Speaker 2: for streetscape improvements at the southern end of Elizabeth Street.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest spend, of course, from the fund was ten
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  Speaker 2: million dollars for as I said, that ideological fetish that
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  Speaker 2: so many councils have for bike lanes, Liz, bike lanes
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  Speaker 2: are not going to help revive the city center.
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  Speaker 3: That's what the money was for.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a Victorian business person, it's just one hit
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  Speaker 2: after another.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, this adds insult to injury.
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  Speaker 5: Not only are you against the wall, many of them
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  Speaker 5: did not survive as we well know. Not only are
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  Speaker 5: you against the wall because of the tyranny of this
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  Speaker 5: state government, but now you find out councils have also
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  Speaker 5: got their fingers in the pie of what is supposed
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  Speaker 5: to be government money to help you get back on
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  Speaker 5: your feet revitalize the CBD. Bike lanes do the exact opposite,
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  Speaker 5: and the council admits in this report. Or because it
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  Speaker 5: was pandemic and everything, we didn't have time to liaise
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  Speaker 5: with the public as to whether they actually wanted them
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  Speaker 5: or not. The fact that in any CBD here in
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  Speaker 5: Australia bike lanes are given precedents over cars is absolutely nuts.
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  Speaker 4: Unless you are let's say.
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  Speaker 5: Between fifteen and forty five years of age, you're able bodied,
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  Speaker 5: the weather's nice, you don't have much luggage to take
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  Speaker 5: to work, and you live close by.
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  Speaker 4: Because you're not going to cycle.
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  Speaker 5: What twenty k's either way, then you're going to need
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  Speaker 5: a car.
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  Speaker 4: Or public transport.
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  Speaker 5: Those should be the two priorities in any CBD. The
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  Speaker 5: amount of times I'm in Sydney CBD because I'm blessed
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  Speaker 5: enough to live not too.
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  Speaker 4: Far away, I never see anyone in the bike lanes.
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  Speaker 4: Where are the bikes? This isn't Holland.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, So City of Melbourne that have tracked out forty
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  Speaker 5: k's of this stuff to the tune of ten million dollars,
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  Speaker 5: I bet even the cyclist in Melbourne is like, what
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  Speaker 5: a flip and waste of money.
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  Speaker 6: Well, see, it's not really about the cyclist. It's more
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  Speaker 6: about the hatred of cars. And then they know they
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  Speaker 6: are not actually going to be any cyclists on.
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  Speaker 4: These biplanes a gender.
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  Speaker 6: It's put the bike lane there so that it's difficult
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  Speaker 6: for you to then drive your car through the Melbourne
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  Speaker 6: CBD and then you crack it and say, well I'm
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  Speaker 6: not going to do that again. But of course, in
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  Speaker 6: order for the Melbourne CBD to operate, cafes, restaurants, shops, etc.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, all the things in these places they get
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  Speaker 6: there somehow, and I'll give you a tip. They don't
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  Speaker 6: come on the back of a bike. Actually, well, that's
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  Speaker 6: not entirely true. There are such things as by couriers,
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  Speaker 6: but most things get delivered in a van or a truck,
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  Speaker 6: and the vans in the trucks have to get around
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  Speaker 6: the CBD in order for the CBD to operate, and
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  Speaker 6: they need somewhere to park as well. They had quite
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  Speaker 6: large vehicles, and it's almost impossible to do that in
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  Speaker 6: most capital cities now because they either can't get a
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  Speaker 6: park because all the parking space has been taken up
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  Speaker 6: by by lanes. All the by plane takes out an
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  Speaker 6: entire lane of traffic, which means that it's now essentially
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  Speaker 6: one lane of traffic and then one lane of parking.
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  Speaker 1: And so when a.
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  Speaker 6: Truck decides it needs to reverse parallel park, everyone's backed
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  Speaker 6: up to Wilson's Promontory in Victoria waiting for this track
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  Speaker 6: to be able to park because you cannot get past them.
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  Speaker 6: And I want to know two point six million dollars
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  Speaker 6: spent on quote unquote beautifying improving the streetscape of the
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  Speaker 6: southern end of Elizabeth Street. Now I know you were
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  Speaker 6: in Melbourne over Christmas. I don't know whether you went
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  Speaker 6: to that end of Elizabeth Street. But I lived in
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  Speaker 6: Melbourne at this time, and I looked at that end
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  Speaker 6: of Elizabeth Street almost every day. I would walk from
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  Speaker 6: South Bank through the underpass, you know, over the river,
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  Speaker 6: through Flint of Street Station and there would be Elizabeth Street.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't remember doing anything to beautify it. I
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  Speaker 6: just remember it being full of more homeless people and
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  Speaker 6: drug users than it was when I arrived in the city.
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  Speaker 3: Well you know what they did there.
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  Speaker 2: They closed off one side of Elizabeth's and.
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  Speaker 1: They put down fake turf.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but then it and it became a gathering point
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  Speaker 2: for drug addicts.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I was almost anti social behavior. So I thought,
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  Speaker 3: they can't do that. So the council came back.
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  Speaker 2: They took away the plants, they took away the park benches,
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  Speaker 2: they ripped up the artificial turf. They left that section
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  Speaker 2: of street block to traffic, which goes to your point.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't about bikes or any other things, about time
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  Speaker 2: to remove cars from the city, which does the exact opposite.
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  Speaker 4: And yet the Council.
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  Speaker 5: The coun still keep saying this was quote as people
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  Speaker 5: change their travel habits during the pandemic, You mean as
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  Speaker 5: you forced them to change their travel habits because it's
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  Speaker 5: more of a nightmare than ever to have a vehicle,
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  Speaker 5: whether a car or a truck in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 4: CBD, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 5: They always all always put across their agendas as oh no,
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  Speaker 5: this is what the people want. That was written in
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  Speaker 5: the same report where they admitted with in liaise with
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  Speaker 5: the community regarding this, and it makes just out and
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  Speaker 5: out lying, and it.
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  Speaker 6: Makes even less sense considering the city that Melbourne has
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  Speaker 6: now become what the CBD has now become, which is
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  Speaker 6: an entertainment place on the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: People don't go there to work during the week.
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  Speaker 6: The numbers of people in Melbourne during the week are
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  Speaker 6: below what they were before the pandemic. On the weekend
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  Speaker 6: they're much higher than they were during the pandemic because
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  Speaker 6: people are at home working during the week, and then
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  Speaker 6: on the weekend they decide, well, we're going to go
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  Speaker 6: into the city and have some fun. Then you can
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  Speaker 6: maybe justify riding your bike to work during the week
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  Speaker 6: because you're just going to go there and then come
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  Speaker 6: home at the end of the day. But you're not
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  Speaker 6: going to get on your bike with the kids, go
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  Speaker 6: into the city, have six pints over lunch and then
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  Speaker 6: ride the bike back home, are you.
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  Speaker 1: It just does not make any seat.
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  Speaker 6: Speaking of things that don't make any sense, unless, of course,
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  Speaker 6: you have the lefty hive mind, the woke mind virus.
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  Speaker 6: As Elon Musk likes to talk about the Australian Classification Board.
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  Speaker 1: This is the mob that looks at books and movies
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  Speaker 1: and video games and cassettes.
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  Speaker 6: Well, actually we don't have cassets. How did I come
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  Speaker 6: up with cassetts? I don't know where that came from.
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  Speaker 4: Look you're too young to rememberchanic, no, no no.
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  Speaker 6: I had cassettes in the boomboxer record songs off of
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  Speaker 6: FM radio and whatever. When I was a kid classic FM.
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  Speaker 6: I was recording music off.
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  Speaker 1: Of it should be. I don't know how I came
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  Speaker 1: up with casseets.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I haven't used a cassette v years nor
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  Speaker 6: a CD mind you, but I do have lots of
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  Speaker 6: old radios. Maybe that's where my mind was going. But anyway,
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  Speaker 6: they look at the cash hets if anyone still makes them.
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  Speaker 6: The CDs the albums that get released and put a
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  Speaker 6: rating on them. You know, you go to the movies,
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  Speaker 6: it's G or it's PG, or it's M, or it's
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  Speaker 6: M A fifteen or.
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  Speaker 1: It's R or whatever.
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  Speaker 6: That mob now wants to take their responsibilities even further.
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  Speaker 6: They want to go into the past and reclassify movies.
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  Speaker 1: And books, et cetera.
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  Speaker 6: Because, wait for it, there might be something in a
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  Speaker 6: movie or a book that was made written fifty sixty,
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  Speaker 6: seventy eighty years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Wait for it, it reflects the time it was written.
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  Speaker 6: Who would have known, I mean, imasion making a movie
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  Speaker 6: about the eighteen hundreds or the seventeen hundred, it's got.
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  Speaker 1: Slavery in it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, we must now go back and reclassify that movie
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  Speaker 6: so that you know before you watch it that it
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  Speaker 6: has slavery in it. I mean, for goodness sake, what
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  Speaker 6: we are talking about here is not the classification board.
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  Speaker 6: It's the trigger warning board. They have to now, They
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  Speaker 6: want the power now to go back and look at
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  Speaker 6: everything that has ever been made to say, oh, well,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the standards have changed, so we must now
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  Speaker 6: apply to dose standards to the old product. As if
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  Speaker 6: you didn't already know when you were watching Gone with
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  Speaker 6: the Wind that it wasn't made yesterday. This is from
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  Speaker 6: the Australian. The federal government agency that is the Classification
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  Speaker 6: Board wants to reclassify publications every ten years. It's told
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  Speaker 6: her view of Australia's classification scheme. They cite the British
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  Speaker 6: Sensor's reclassification of classic children's film Mary Popp'in's For Heaven's
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  Speaker 6: Sake last year. The Australian Senser needs says that it
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  Speaker 6: needs new powers to proactively reclassify our cake and out
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  Speaker 6: of step movies. I'll repeat that our cake and out
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  Speaker 6: of step.
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  Speaker 1: Movies, books and TV shows.
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  Speaker 6: That no longer a line with the current guidelines or
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  Speaker 6: community standards, as if we don't already know that when
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  Speaker 6: we're watching it or reading it. We know that slavery
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  Speaker 6: is bad, We know that many things that happened in
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  Speaker 6: the past are no longer the standards of today.
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  Speaker 1: Do they really think people are that dense that they.
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  Speaker 6: Put on an old movie or pick up a Dickens
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  Speaker 6: book and they're.
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  Speaker 1: Like, heavens, that's how life should we live now? I
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  Speaker 1: can't believe it. Like we know, we.
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  Speaker 2: Don't need to be told I mean, the next thing
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  Speaker 2: they want is the power to hold public book burnings.
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  Speaker 2: But we've s where this goes because they've done this
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  Speaker 2: in the UK, whether it's in Enlightened Doctor Seuss, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's Role Dal. They've put warnings on those books. Some
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  Speaker 2: of them have been withdrawn from shelves, episodes of Friends
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  Speaker 2: have been changed, trigger warnings outed because people have been
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  Speaker 2: upset by modern sensibilities. Mary Poppins, when it was released
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty four was rated universal. That rating was
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  Speaker 2: repeated in twenty thirteen, but last year it was reclassified
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  Speaker 2: as PG because it uses the word hottentots I've never
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  Speaker 2: heard of before, but apparently that refers to an African person,
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  Speaker 2: but they used it for chimney sweeps whose faces were
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  Speaker 2: covered in soot, and of course that's very racist. There's
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  Speaker 2: a fatal flaw with what the Australian Classification Board is
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  Speaker 2: doing here, and that is the assumption that our morality
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  Speaker 2: is improving, that somehow we are more enlightened than our grandparents' generation.
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  Speaker 3: I would argue that that is a big call.
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  Speaker 2: We are the generation that can't differentiate between a man
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  Speaker 2: and a woman, and we suppose that sense of morality
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  Speaker 2: is superior to our grandparents. I think the world was
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  Speaker 2: a much more moral place when my grandparents were alive
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  Speaker 2: than it is these days. So the arrogance of the
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  Speaker 2: Censorship Board to believe that somehow they are superior to
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  Speaker 2: previous generations and should go back and reclassify and mop
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  Speaker 2: up the mess of our grandparents, for instance, is just astonishing.
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  Speaker 5: Well, thankfully this doesn't have a snowflake's chance in the
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  Speaker 5: hell of getting up.
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  Speaker 4: Let's all be angry that they tried.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, but given we are currently in the environment just
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  Speaker 5: off a few months after the comprehensive defeat of the
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  Speaker 5: Combating Misinformation Disinformation Bill, I was watching Minister O'Neill on
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  Speaker 5: Sunrise just this morning and she was shooting this down
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  Speaker 5: the woman best known as she who would fail finger
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  Speaker 5: painting in Albanesi's cabinet. Even she was like, no, no,
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  Speaker 5: this is a terrible.
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  Speaker 4: Idea, not going to happen.
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  Speaker 5: Barnaby Joyce was saying, there's no way the Communications Minister
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  Speaker 5: Michelle Roland would allow this. I'm thinking I still remember
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  Speaker 5: how purple in the face jug yellar veins sticking out
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  Speaker 5: that woman was frothing over her amazing Combating Misinformation Disinformation Bill.
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  Speaker 5: But I take Barnaby's point, even she would have learnt
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  Speaker 5: her lessons. So I don't think this is going to
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  Speaker 5: get up by any stretch of the imagination. But I
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  Speaker 5: always encourage everyone every time.
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  Speaker 4: Stuff cut like this comes up.
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  Speaker 5: Remember what they tried on that bill that we're talking about,
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  Speaker 5: perfect example. Imagine if they got their way. What these
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  Speaker 5: guys are trying to do is edit history, which is
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  Speaker 5: indeed straight out of nineteen eighty four, the famous quote,
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  Speaker 5: who controls the pass controls the future, Who controls the
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: present controls the past. So those who are in power
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  Speaker 5: today are trying to make out like, oh, slavery never existed,
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  Speaker 5: Blacks were never subservient to white Oh, and men were
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  Speaker 5: never really really masculine, and women were never really really
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  Speaker 5: feminine and actually really liked men being really masculine. Now
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  Speaker 5: we just pump out movies where it's always.
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  Speaker 4: A strong female lead. All the guys are pathetic.
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  Speaker 5: Have you noticed that every single male in your average
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  Speaker 5: Hollywood film is just an absolute loser. He's down on
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  Speaker 5: his luck, he doesn't earn as much money as her,
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  Speaker 5: he's not as good looking as her, he's got a
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  Speaker 5: really bad self esteem. They have cast men for decades
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  Speaker 5: now as complete losers. Hollywood didn't about face and made
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  Speaker 5: all the women the strong, you know, kick down the door,
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  Speaker 5: real ball buster types, and people look at that and
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  Speaker 5: admire that and think it's something so something else. You
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  Speaker 5: can be sure these people would be editing out of
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  Speaker 5: history is a time of the John Waynes, the type
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  Speaker 5: of man who slapped women's butt sheets, who were like
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  Speaker 5: ultra ultra like masculine, really rough and something, and all.
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  Speaker 4: The chicks loved it.
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  Speaker 2: But they want to reach classify movies that are quote
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  Speaker 2: out of step with current standards.
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  Speaker 3: What is out of stepman?
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  Speaker 4: And I hate.
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  Speaker 2: Hypocrisy from the Australian Classification Board who while they want
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  Speaker 2: to go back and put trigger warnings on Mary Poppins
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  Speaker 2: and Gone with the Wind, just last year they approved
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  Speaker 2: a novel that depicted pedophiles gang raping children and a
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: comic book that had basically violent pornography. They approved those
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  Speaker 2: works because of their literary, artistic and educational merits. These
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  Speaker 2: same people want to go back and edit versions of
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  Speaker 2: Friends and books by land Blab.
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  Speaker 4: They're out of step.
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  Speaker 1: James, the fox trot wrong?
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  Speaker 6: Didn't you know that but you took me about you know,
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  Speaker 6: John Wayne slapping women on the barmers.
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  Speaker 1: What happened to Benny Hill? Right?
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  Speaker 6: This is something I don't know what they did with
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  Speaker 6: the classification of Benny Hill, but I remember as a
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  Speaker 6: kid watching Benny Hill on Channel seven on a Saturday
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  Speaker 6: nightgel I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean most of it went.
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  Speaker 6: Over my head, the sexual innuendos, but I thought Benny
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  Speaker 6: Hill was the best thing ever. They don't show Benny
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  Speaker 6: Hill anywhere anymore.
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  Speaker 3: That's what's wrong with the I wouldn't be able to
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  Speaker 3: watch the Pull Home.
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  Speaker 1: I mean imagine all that.
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  Speaker 6: You could not make a lot of the films and
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  Speaker 6: comedies of the sixties, seventies, eighties, particularly the UK ones.
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  Speaker 6: You know on the buses. Are you being served? I
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  Speaker 6: mean I think of Missus Slocum walking in on a
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  Speaker 6: cold morning saying that her puts it was frozen solid, right,
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  Speaker 6: and as a kid, that straight over the top of
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  Speaker 6: my head. But you couldn't make that stuff anymore, And
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  Speaker 6: they reckon, we haven't got new Puritanism.
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  Speaker 4: Get and they don't.
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  Speaker 5: They won't let us show it either, because then people
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  Speaker 5: would wake up to the fact that we are being
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  Speaker 5: robbed and TV was actually way better back in the day.
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  Speaker 4: We haven't progressed, we've regressed.
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  Speaker 5: Moving on now, President Trump is about to get a
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  Speaker 5: whole lot more popular with the younger demographic in America.
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  Speaker 5: You may recall TikTok was set to be banned in America.
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  Speaker 5: One hundred and twenty million American TikTok users, especially the left, were,
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  Speaker 5: of course, completely losing their mind.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: Normally, when something happens, I would get on TikTok.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: It's a complaining and I can't even do that. We
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: learned so much about things we didn't know about, opportunities,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: places to eat, movies to watch, books to read.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: I just seen the video of the girl that made
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: the renegade dance and crag because I read a comment
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: that was like the algorithm saying good bye?
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Does this app was literally supposed to be my way out?
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: Well after and in executive order, Trump has managed to
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: extend not it's the band's not completely off the table.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: He wants to do a deal with TikTok.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: So earlier this weekend, TikTok users melted down when they
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: saw this on their screen.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Sorry, TikTok isn't available right now. A law banning.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: TikTok has been enacted in the US. Unfortunately, that means
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: you can't use it now.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: We are fortunate that President Trump has.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: Indicated that he will work with us on a solution
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: to reinstate.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: TikTok once he takes office. Please stay tuned. Well this
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: was true.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: It turns out TikTok early ended up going dark for
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: just twelve hours in the United States of America, and
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: then Trump announces this is his idea for reinstating it.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: How do you like this?
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: As of today, TikTok is back. I said, I'll approve,
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: but let the United States of America own fifty percent
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: of TikTok.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: So, whether you like TikTok or not, we're.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Going to make a lot of money.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: We're gonna have TikTok's availing our people.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: We want to avail them. True, we want all that
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: data on them. China can't have it by themselves. We
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: won in on this, Thanks very much. That's my read
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: on this. It's quite hilarious. But the lefties don't care.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: They're drying their tears because next time they logged into TikTok,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: they saw this wondrous message welcome back, Thanks for your
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: patients and support.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: As a result of President Trump's efforts, TikTok is back
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: in the US.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: You can continue to create, to share, and discover all
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: of the things you love on TikTok while we harvest
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: your data like you wouldn't believe good thing or bad thing.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: Well, look, I am troubled by the idea that TikTok
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: and Elon Musk was pointing this out yesterday, that Twitter
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: cand or x as it now is, can't operate in
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: China because of course China wouldn't allow any sort of
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: Western outfit to go and set up shop over there,
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: but we do allow a company that has inextricable links
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: to the CCPs all companies in China do to.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Set up shop in the US.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: And then we say it's a free speech argument, Well,
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: how far does your free speech go when you literally
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: just hand opportunities to foreign powers to come over and
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: start inserting things that are so discord et cetera.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: And we know from the way that TikTok.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: Is presented in the US and Australia and the UK
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: the Western world, compared to the version of TikTok that's
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: handed up in China, to kids. I mean over there
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: are chosen science experiments, very homework stuff, and what they
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: can only use it for forty minutes a day, et cetera.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: They're using TikTok to fill their kids' minds with things
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: that actually matter. Over here, of course, the algorithm just
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: fills kids' minds with brain rot. But that's what China wants.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: If you can make weak Chinese sorry we Western children
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: and strong Chinese children, that's exactly what China wants. So
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: it makes total sense that you would want to go
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: for a band. What Trump has done here is sort
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: of taken what was the original proposition, which was that
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: Byte Dance, the owner of TikTok, would have to divest
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: its US version essentially to someone else want a continue operating.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: He said, well, why don't we come to an agreement
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: where we have fifty percent of the bargain. Now, whether
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: or not they can actually do that remains to be seen,
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: but he's shown his card and said, look, we'll let
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: you operate, but you've got to play by our rules.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I don't see a problem with that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: It's a good business decision.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: TikTok is worth an absolute fortune. I mean, it's eighteen
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: billion dollars in advertising revenue last year. It's a good
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: political decision because, of course Republicans have never exactly been
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: popular with the younger demographic, although Kamala Harris failed miserably
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: in that regard at the last election, attracting only about
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: fifty four percent of young voters compared to well I
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: was sixty percent by.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Previous Democrat candidates. But Trump now is the hero. We
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: saw all those lefties having meltdowns.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: They'll wake up today thinking thank God for our Lord
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and Savior Donald Trump, which is the first time I
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: left he has ever said that. So politically it's good
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: for him. But as you say, TikTok is like it's
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: like cultural cancer. And Congress had agreed to ban this,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: the ban had been enacted. I know Trump is pro
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: free speech, but is there a point at which you
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: say this is a malignant force that is destroying our
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: younger generation.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Added to that, there's the security concerns, let's ditch it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Sure it's a political when sure he can say he
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: really is the free speech, but are their bigger concerns?
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: But you see, is it about free speech because obviously
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of other social media platforms. You've got Instagram,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: you've got all metas, you've got X.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: There are other places that.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: These same people can go that aren't CCP owned and controlled.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: We know that byte dancy is, as he pointed out, Caleb,
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: So is it actually a freedom of speech issue?
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: That is my big question?
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: Like you say, X can't operate in China because they
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: do not want that influence on the Chinese people.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: They know what's good for them, and they're making sure.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: That happens the way simply hasn't done the same by
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: their own kids. And if I'm taking something off you
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: that's actually quite damaging the vast majority of an impure brain.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: Rot Am I really limiting your freedom of speech? Or
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: am I ensuring that you're going to spend your time
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: doing a lot more intelligent things in the future.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: And sure you may stick with what you're.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Doing, but go onto those other platforms and use those
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: to do the exact same thing. Anyway, So I don't
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: know that it is restrictive of freedom of speech. But
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: something else Trump has promised to do, and I am
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: beyond ampt for this, is release the files on the
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: rfk jfk MLK assassinations check it out.
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: As the first step toward restoring transparency and accountability to government.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: We will also reverse the overclassification of government documents, and
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: in the coming days, we're going to make public remaining
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: records relating to the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy,
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: his brother Robert Kennedy, as well as doctor Martin Luther
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: King Junior, and other topics of great public and Jesse
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: do it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: I never get tired of being right about absolutely everything.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: If he genuinely does this, and we don't get a
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: redacted pile of crap. If he actually does this, this
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: is going to change the game in terms of how
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: massive sways of particularly the Western world, relate to their government,
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: particularly the CIA.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: This is going to do. This is why they haven't
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: released it. They're all like all national security concerns. Yeah,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: of your own.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Concern You guys are the ones that are going to
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: look absolutely terrible if and when this is revealed.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, I can't tell you how excited I am.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Well will you suppose that?
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, none of us have read it, so
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: I don't know what's actually in it will be the
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: case we have.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Outside of these files, the stuff that we have put
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: together in the succeeding decades. I mean, the proof is
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: just mountainous at this point.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: This will just be a final nail in the coffee.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: The question was whether or not he goes through with it,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: because last time he said he was going to do
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: this and then he backed off.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Exactly, which is why I keep saying if.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: So, we'll wait and see if he follows through.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: But it would be a huge step in rebuilding trust
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: between the public and the government, which is completely eroded,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: especially after the COVID.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Stuff fixing estimate all that. I love this.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: This is what Trump can do, right because he's an outsider,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: So no one's expecting someone like Trump to come in
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and suddenly say, you know what, let's open the windows,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: open the doors, let the.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Light shine in.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: But of course, this is just one of about two
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: hundred things he's planning to do on day one. It'll
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: take the news media a week to cover just the
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: things he's going to do in the first twenty four
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: hours after inauguration. If he follows through, particularly on this one,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: you might even find out about the moon landing.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: I already know about the moon landing. I already know
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: about Well done, you guys, to I know that you're
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: not literally taking this apart. He's by piece. Why isn't
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: the flag moving? They've taken a part of the pot
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: the photo.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry you'll miss James.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: The amount of chime the winders, I know it's pretty easy.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: But the amount of time that has passed since these
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: events occurred, there's very little reason now to say that
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: we shouldn't be able to see those dogs. And the
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: difference in terms of him last time not releasing it,
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: and the difference to this time, I think is it
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: last time he came to the with no political experience whatsoever.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: He walked in completely green, and then of course people
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: got in his ear and told him what he could
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: and couldn't do, or should or shouldn't do. Forereas this
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: time he comes in with total knowledge of how to
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: do the job, how the system of government works, how
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: the cogs work within the wheel, and so he will
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: be much more confident to be able to make more
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: decisions and other decisions and whatever that will allow him
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: to do this, if he doesn't have to be scared anymore.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is literally his last throw of the dice.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: He can't run again after this, so hell if he
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: wants to get anything done, now is the time to.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Do it now.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: I don't know whether you've been watching the tennis that's
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: been going on, of course in Melbourne, the Australian Open.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: If you're watching US, of course that's much better. Don't
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: go changing any channels.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Watch the late debate, but we will give you the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: process of.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: What has been going on in the tennis, not necessarily
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: the game going on on the court, but some of
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: the going goings on around it. I don't know whether
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: you've ever seen Tony Jones over on Channel nine TJ.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: As they call him, Chompers, they call him.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: He's on the Sunday Footy show during the al season,
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: fills in all over the shop, he reads news, he
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: fills in on the three a W Mornings, which he's
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: doing at the moment, and he is one of their
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: sports broadcasters, so he has been reading the sport at.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Night on Channel nine. He's also been involved in some
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: of the coverage. Well.
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: On Friday there were Serbian supporters behind him when he
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: crossed in to do his sports segment on nine News
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: in Melbourne and they were charting away and having a
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: good time and well this is how TJ took it.
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: The Novak Djokovic fan's there in full voice. Yeah, the
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: chances are quite a surety Novak, he's overrated Novaksa has
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: the Novack kick him in.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Boy, I'm glad they can't hear me.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Boy, I'm glad they can't hear me.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: Oh, forgot about the TV camera in front of me
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: going out to all of Melbourne Live. That will then
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: get put on social media and go around the world,
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: which it did, which is why this happened. Novak Djokovic,
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: to winning a match, went to do the normal interview,
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: so you win the game, the interview the winner, except
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: he didn't do the interview.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: He walked off.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: He took the microphone and he said thanks for the fans,
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: thanks to the fans, sorry, and handed the microphone Matt.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: He was like, hang on, why did Jokovic not do
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: the interview? Well, he explained that old Mat TJ had
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: insulted his country and his fans and until old Mate
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: TJ and his Channel nine apologizes for it, he won't
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: be given no interviews.
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: Well, I was hoping he's going to apologize in public,
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: which he hasn't done yet.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Native into the Channel nine so That's.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: The only reason why I didn't do the interview.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: It was, of course not a great feeling for me,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and it was quite awkward on the court.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: Now. Of course, Jones in that early eclip mentioned you know,
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: no kick him out, which is a reference to a
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: national disgrace, which was the deportation of Novak Djokovic in
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: twenty two twenty two when he came out to play
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: in the Australian Open. It is a stain on this
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: country that we kicked him out. But he just had
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: to bring it up, just to rub the salt into
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: the wound a little bit more. Not forgetting, of course,
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: the fact that Djokovic came back the year later in
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty three and won the Australian.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Open, just to prove the point. But TJ rolled over
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: and gave his apology. Well apology, I don't know you ever. Listen.
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: The comments were made on the news on the Friday night,
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: which I considered to be banter. I considered it to
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: be humor, which is consistent with most things I do.
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: That the Jokovic camp was not happy at all with
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: those comments.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: As such, I immediately contacted the Djokovic camp and issued
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: an apology to them. So this is forty eight hours
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: ago for any disrespect that Novak felt that I had caused.
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: And as I stand here now, I stand by that
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: apology to Novak.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: So here we are twenty days is it's the twentieth
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: of January. They were twenty days into twenty twenty five.
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: I did not have on my twenty twenty five bingo
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: card an international diplomatic incident caused by chompers on Channel nine.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Jack.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: There's so many problems with his First of all, I mean,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: he says it was banned it was a bit of
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: humor because that's what he does. Well, he needs to
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: find a different job, because it was so funny, it
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: was cringe worthy. Beyond that, it was just stupid. You
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: pointed out his comment. You know, lucky they can't hear.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: He's on television. That's his job.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Of course, it's going to go not just locally but internationally.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: And of course, if you're going to make a joke,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: don't make a joke of Novak Dokovich, the man who
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: was persecuted by our government for the crime of standing
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: up for bodily autonomy during the COVID pandemic, and then
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the apology. It's the first apology I've ever seen where
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: someone says, I stand by my apology.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Is that you know why apology?
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: It was forty eight hours ago, and to be honest,
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: I've reconsidered you might.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Want to reissue it. He should have said, you know what,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: it was a stupid thing to say.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking. It wasn't funny. It was a dumb
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: thing to say. I apologize unreservedly. Dokovic is an absolute champion,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm really sorry for you.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: He completely wasn't sorry, though, he was completely not sorry.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: That apology had all the charm of a colossomy bag
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: hitting a windshield. This guy just stood there making excuses, going, oh,
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: I just I thought it was being funny, insinuating the
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: team Djokovic were actually just precious little souls. They couldn't
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: take it.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: He was cracking a joke, and.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: They've cracked the UNO once because they don't have thick
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: enough skin. That is genuinely, he just piled on the
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: insult in that apology. It wasn't an apology at all.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: They of course have taken the apology. They want to
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: get on with the game. Good on them, But the
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: fact that Channel nine would have written that out word
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: for word and thought, oh yeah, this sad excuse of
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: an apology with all the genuine of a vanity license plate.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Let's go live on it. This will really, you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: get rid of the international stink.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: This is caused because once again Australia we are in
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: international headlines for treating this guy like dirt, for doing
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: absolutely nothing wrong. Every year he rocks up nearly every year,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: he wins ten times the Australian Open, and this time
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: we've got the official partner of the Australian Open, the
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: official network covering it. Their guy decides to call him
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: has been a loser, Kick him out the thing.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: There's no excuse for this whatsoever.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: The other weird thing about that apology is instead of
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: looking straight down the camera and saying you know what,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I regret what I said or whatever, they filmed the
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: apology where he's being much sort of like talking about
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: and we just kind of are listening in, which is
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: a really odd way, I would.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Say, genuine way.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: But can I just say, master stroke of Djokovic just
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: taking to Twitter. That video that you saw of him
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: just there has over sixty six million views.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: So Channel nine could get stuffed. Beat that fat cats.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: He just bypassed the nasty media posted by himself filming
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: himself onto his own Twitter account and the world was watching.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: So who needs these nasty media types anyway? It's just like,
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: you know what, you want to insult me after I've
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: come all this way. Novak has already talked at length
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: about the fact that he's genuinely traumatized coming back.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Into Melbourne because he was locked up like.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: A criminal in Chrisportation at Christmas sent home. He said,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: even the food apparently got some sort of lead poisoning
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: from it. We did so atrociously in terms of looking
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: after him, not looking after him at all.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: And this guy's joking about it for shame.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: All right, before we go to a break, I want
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: to get your opinion on a coalition policy. Peter Dutton
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: has come out and said that if elected, he will
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: legislate mandatory sentences for people who commit terror offenses and
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: for people who display terrorist symbols. Now, this is an
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: interesting move because Anthony Alberenezi appointed a special Envoy for
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Anti Semitism to advise him and the government on what
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: they should do will She advised that they should implement
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: mandatory sentences, and Anthony Alberanzi said no to his specially
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: appointed envoy, but Peter Dutton is saying yes to Anthony
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Albanese specially appointed envoice.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: So Dutton is proposing.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: One to five year minimum mandatory sentences for anyone who
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: displays a terrorist flag, has bala Hamas or a terrorist
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: symbol including the Nazi symbol Caleb good move or bad move.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: I'm going to have to pull the splinters out of
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: my ass on this one because I am in two minds,
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: because part of me says that anyone who has any
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: sympathy for a terror organization ought to be deported fly.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: The flag even more so.
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  Speaker 6: The one thing I worry about, though, is that when
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: you ban or outlaw certain ways of thinking, as a
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: borring as they might be, they don't disappear. They just
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: go underground, and it then potentially becomes even harder to idea.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: What type of mandatory min sentences are you saying it
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: shouldn't even be illegal to waiver has bluff?
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: The idea troubles me to some degree because I just
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: worry that the ideology doesn't go away. And if you
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: tell someone that the way they think is bad, they
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: actually have less reason than to do anything about it.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: You don't deradicalize that.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Their organization is to kill certain people. Isn't waving the
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: flag incitement to violence?
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Quite illegal?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Quite quite possibly.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, I just worry that if you cannot identify
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: clearly idea.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, you look, if you feel like you come out.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: Way there's a black blake, we know the bloke to
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: keep an eye out, or we know the bloke you
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: need it ought to be in a deradicalization program. But
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: they're not going to stop saying these things. That's the
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: only thing that worries me is they will do it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: They will just do it in places where you don't
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: know they're doing it, which I think makes it more
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: difficult to identify them and potentially do something.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm on that as a as a free speech absolutist,
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: as a free expression absolutist, even if I think you
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: hold the most abhorrent views in the world, I want
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: you to express them so the authorities know your name,
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: know your address. It actually helps them out exponentially. And
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: I think there's a lot to be said. I just
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: do not like banning things, period. And as we discussed
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: last week. Mandatory sentencing. Minimum mandatory sentencing.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: That is an absolute can of worms.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: Because it does away with the situations in which people might.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Be when they commit these acts.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: Also, I do think this is quite a bit of
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: window dressing by the Libs here, because the vast majority
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: of flags flown at the rallies that we've seen are
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: not Hamas or Hezbla flags. They are the Palestinian flag, period,
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: So it sounds great. They're probably trying to get votes
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: from certain people in the community. Makes sense coming up
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: to an election, but I think that's all that is.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Essentially.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I'm going to disagree.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: If you're waving a terrorist flag, you're inciting violence against
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: a particular grip in the community.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Not only that, but you're harassing, bullying and threatening them.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: It should be bad.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Look at the papers in just a moment, welcome back
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: to the late debate. Let's take a look at what's
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: making news in tomorrow's papers and Liz Donald Trump is
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: dominating tomorrow.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: In more ways than one. Check out these headlines The Courier,
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Mail and New Dawn get It instead of Dawn It
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: says Donald Trump has promised the blitz of executive orders
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: he will sign after taking the oath of office as
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: US President for a historic second time today, will fix
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: every single crisis. This is a direct quote, fix every
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: single crisis facing our country end quote and Herald.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: In a new golden age for America.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Talk about talk and beg but if there's one guy
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: who can deliver on it to the advertiser. Now, Don
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: goes for woke, kicking it all out, ready to launch
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: his conservative revolution. Newcastle Herald They've all got this picture
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: of him doing that iconic YMC hag dance Don's Party,
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: the headline reads.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: And lastly the Herald's.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: Son Maachroman Trump back as president.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Tail to the chief. Love that also on the front
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: page of The Herald's son.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Business sick in Vic, Victorian businesses are collapsing at a
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: nation leading rate. A soaring operating expenses, coupled with cost
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: of living pressures and an aggressive taxation offers crackdown on
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: unpaid debt force.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: An alarming number to close.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: It says. The state had a seventy one percent increase
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: in insolvency appointments in the six months to December.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: My goodness, these numbers.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: Are eye watering, but oh well, Melboyne, at least you've
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: got ten forty kilometers of bi planes.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: In your CBD.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Any minute now, they're going to lift these businesses from
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: the dust. Being the ten million that should have been
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: spent on keeping these guys in business.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: The city just decided now by Clanes instead. I'm sure.
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know it all comes out in the
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Welsh at the end of the day.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Not We really surprised. So many businesses are going bust
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: in Victoria, and today simple Hellen announced her big plan
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: to revive the state was to force the state's fifteen
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: hundred petrol stations to lock in their prices for twenty
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: four hours each day. That's going to save some pennies,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: but people really need pounds in Victoria and property taxes.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: You're not allowed to drill for gas, which means the
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: price of energy is through the roof.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: We could go on and on the cost of security
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: because of crime. There's a million things she could do
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: that would make a difference. She's tinkering with fuel prices so.
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: They may not need pounds because they've certainly taken a
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: pounding in Victoria and it says here that this has
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: made up a lot of these numbers by the hospitality sector,
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: which it says he had a sharp increase on this
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: time last year in terms of insolvencies, because of course,
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: you know, in a cost of living crisis, what's one
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: of the first things that you say, okay, well i've
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: got a four go that it might be takeaway or
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: going out for dinner, or buying a coffee in the morning, etcetera.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: They're the things that you cut back on, and so that's.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Good for you.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: It means you've got some more money in your pocket.
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: But more than likely the person running that place where
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: you went for dinner was a small business owner and
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: now they have no business at all.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: They've gone to the wall.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: Their business may well have been attached to their house
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: mortgages collateral, they may have lost the house. I mean,
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: the follow on effects of all of this are really
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: serious when we talk about businesses going under. Let's go
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: to the Australian Now interesting story here says seeds of
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: positivity for Albanezi Trump relationship X envoy. Former Australian Ambassador
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: to Washington, Dennis Richardson says the early signs are positive
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: for the establishment of a good working relationship between Anthony
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: Albanizi and incoming US President Donald Trump. He made the
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: comments as former form she is current. That was wishful thinking.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: I'm just hoping later in the year she will be
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: former Foreign Minister Benny Wong. She touched down in Washington
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: to attend the inauguration, and of course she'll be going
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: there with Kevin Rudd, and she flagged a meeting with
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: the incoming Secretary of State Marco Rubio, noting his recent
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: endorsement of the Orcist Security Agreement. But as you read
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: on in this story, I didn't come across anything that
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: told me why we should have any positivity about the relations.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Dallas. What are we basing this positivity on? Because I'm
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: genuinely confused.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I think he says seeds of positivity. Pennywong touched
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: down in the US, so that's the positive for.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: She made it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: She was not more than she's done that.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: So whether those seeds will actually bear any fruit.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Can't see anything. Yeah, yeah, Germany.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I thinks Dennis good to know the seeds.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: If only if wishful thinking underground, then we wouldn't have
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: to listen to it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: For heaven's sake. Oh the seeds are there. She's touchdown.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: It means that her visa hasn't been canceled.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: So I suppose that's a positive, right. How is this
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: three yard where no threat?
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: Violent former detainee? Sears a violent former immigration detainee convicted
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: of kidnapping and breaking into and freed under the High
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: Court in did y Q ruling has been quote unquote
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: set up for failure and claims most detainees are not
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: even threats to the public. Well, if there is anyone
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: I'm going to take that advice from, it's definitely going
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: to be here.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: My favorite part of what he says is he says,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: you know, the money is spent on you know, electronic
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: surveillance and tags and ankle bracelets and that.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Sort of thing. It should have been spent on rehabilitating me.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Oh better that I need rehabilitating.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Game, But you know, you could have done some rehabilitation.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: What's rehabilitation these days?
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: About these detainees, And it turns out we were wrong
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: all along.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: They're completely harmless. To worry according to one of them. Wow, yeah,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: compelling and rich Right.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I'm ons from prison having been convinced it's got out
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: fighting in public.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I kidnapped. There's no problems, all right, Let's go.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: To the Northern Territory News.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: The headline reads defense dollars experts call for mega spending boost.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: As Australia's top strategists.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Brainstorm how to improve national security. Well, we could have
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: a military or a navy or something like that might help.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: A submarine or.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Two would be good.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: A group of experts is calling on the government to
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: lift defense spending to three percent of gross domestic product
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: by twenty twenty eight twenty nine. Our current defense spending
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: is just slightly under two percent. I think of gd REPEA,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: which is virtually nothing, and you would think, the way
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: the world is now, with the geopolitical situation, that three
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: percent of gdp G you might have to cut back
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: on or I don't know, flagpoles on the Sydney Harbor Bridge.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe cut back on a referendum here or there. That
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: would divide the nation.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Some things like that. Some bike lanes, not.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: The bike lanes, where are the.
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: That's just not three don't you know that the soldiers
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: rolled in on the bike.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's what it is.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: If we've just got bike lanes everywhere, no one's going
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: to want to invade.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: That's a very good point, though.
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: They can just remove the barriers and turn them into
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: nice little roads when the Chinese rock up. But because
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: if you want to go right back to the start,
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: you've actually got to create a country that people want
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: to sign up to the defense force to defend. But
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: were we not last year talking about somewhere up in
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: fan North Queensland, at a military base where you couldn't
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: even have multiple people going to the toilet because it
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: climbed up the sewerage system. If that's the military bases
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: we've got in this country, and we've got strategists, top
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: strategist sitting around, Oh, what can we do to improve
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: the national security? Have toilets for maybe give soldiers working toilets.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: As a good basis.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: We're sitting, Oh God help us, we're going to go
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: to a break when we come back. The New Zealand
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Parliament is about to give a mountain the same rights
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: as if it were a person.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Talk about that.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Well, if you think things are weird here in Australia,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: get a load of what they're doing in New Zealand.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: The Parliament is about to grant the rights to a
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: mountain as if it were a human being. Mount Taneraki
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: on the North Island of New Zealand will be classified
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: legally as a person, which means tourists who quote mistreat
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: the mountain whatever that means, will be liable as if
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: they have mistreated an actual person. Clearly they don't do
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: science in New Zealand, but they do do Maori spirituality.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: The mountain is regarded as an ancestral mountain, which means
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: on that basis it can be classified as a human
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I have questions Calebin this. If someone dies on the
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: mountains due to the negligence of the mountain, the mountain
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: charged with murder. All the mountain used male or female toilets?
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Will this New Zealand mountain answer if you call him bro?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: And how long before this mountain is on welfare?
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: Well, the mountain may not identify with Bro. The mountain
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: may well be gender fluid, James or gender neutral.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: For all we know.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: I think it puts a new spin on having rocks
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: in your head, doesn't it.
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: Now?
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: This is the Union of the year. I mean we've
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: been waiting for this.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: You've been waiting for this like I have four years
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: like literally since Donald Trump started playing YMCA, I have
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: wanted to see it, and finally it has happened. The
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: Village people Donald Trump together on his victory lap in Washington, DC,
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: performing as they will again tonight in the morning. If
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: you're awake for it, that is inauguration here it is.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: It's fine to stay. I mean, how good is this stuff?
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: Right? I mean, who would have thought you would ever
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: get Donald Trump and YMCA together. That man has led
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: such a massive boost in their royalties.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: They owe it to him to rock up and from
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Florida they do.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Who would have thought Donald Trump would be the best
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: thing to happen to the village people or vice versa.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, the inauguration is going to be
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: something to watch it live on Sky News three am
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: tomorrow morning and just a few hours. It will be
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: well worth watching, a historic moment. And who knows whether
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: village people going to be part of that again?
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, the village village people.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: If I think Snoop Dogg performing as well as I've
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: seen that, I mean, you know, she Trump struggled a
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: bit to get before. He struggled to get people to perform,
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: because of course, you know, most artists are lefties, et cetera.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: But I think he's got Snoop dogg. He's got the village.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: But what more do you want? Seriously, the d O
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: double G.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll all be watching at three a m. Maybe
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: you will be too. But stick about courture right now
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: is read The Pendent