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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: All right, welcome, Trapped Souls.
- 0:02SPEAKER_00: I'm here with Elise Megan from Al May Paranormal and Mandy, the ghost sister.
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: Um, how's everybody doing?
- 0:10SPEAKER_01: Good, good, good, good.
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: All right, so we'll wait till a couple people jump on.
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: We're a little late, but that's fine.
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: But and we're talking Bel Air House, and that's the main topic of this podcast here.
- 0:23SPEAKER_00: Uh Mandy was on my show a while ago, and we talked about I wanted to go back.
- 0:27SPEAKER_00: It was drawing me back, draw me back.
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: And then she said she did a walkthrough with her sisters, and it felt a little off.
- 0:36SPEAKER_06: I heard a disembodied voice.
- 0:39SPEAKER_06: So we didn't.
- 0:41SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 0:42SPEAKER_00: So she agreed.
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: I met I reached out to her, she agreed to come and try to get some answers.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: It felt different to me than the first time, first couple times I was there.
- 0:51SPEAKER_00: And I think Mandy agreed.
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: It felt a little different.
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: Um Lisa Megan, first time there, and you guys had some experiences.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: So we'll start with we'll start with Mandy.
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: What was your like first impression when you guys did the walkthrough?
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: What was in there?
- 1:10SPEAKER_06: Well, we probably did that probably about five years ago because we we did an event at the Ross House down the road, and we were able to do a walkthrough, just a walkthrough down, you know, at the bowler.
- 1:23SPEAKER_06: Um, I was like it had a different feeling to it than any other place that I've ever been to.
- 1:29SPEAKER_06: It there was something off with it, especially in the the first room when you walk in where the table is.
- 1:37SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, it had a lot, um, a weird, just uh almost like this negativity energy.
- 1:45SPEAKER_06: You could feel it.
- 1:47SPEAKER_06: It was different than um any house that I I've ever investigated.
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: Now then you went back with me and Nacho.
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: Was it a different feeling then than your first time?
- 2:02SPEAKER_06: Well, yeah, yeah, it was.
- 2:04SPEAKER_06: Um, it wasn't as intense, but it I mean, that still that vibe was there.
- 2:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah, just not as intense.
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, we we did our initial walkthrough, just me and you, just to get a feeling of the place, and really the only feeling that I got was the second floor.
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: I mean, the basement really didn't feel that bad, the attic really didn't feel that bad, but that second floor felt pretty off to me.
- 2:28SPEAKER_06: Really?
- 2:30SPEAKER_00: Yeah, hmm.
- 2:32SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I I can tell you to me that that first floor was the worst.
- 2:37SPEAKER_06: I I thought I did a solo in the basement, and I mean it wasn't that creepy, but it started to get you know creepy down there.
- 2:48SPEAKER_06: But to me, that actually was the first floor and the second floor for me.
- 2:55SPEAKER_06: Yeah, okay.
- 2:57SPEAKER_00: What'd your sisters think?
- 2:59SPEAKER_00: Besides just having a good time, they just those girls just like to laugh.
- 3:03SPEAKER_06: I know.
- 3:05SPEAKER_06: Well, Chassity, you know, she's always saying, I'm afraid of no ghosts.
- 3:09SPEAKER_06: Well, you you heard her scream.
- 3:13SPEAKER_06: That was great.
- 3:14SPEAKER_06: That was great.
- 3:14SPEAKER_06: The herpod goes off and chastity starts screaming.
- 3:19SPEAKER_06: She's like, What is that?
- 3:20SPEAKER_06: I'm like, what do you mean?
- 3:22SPEAKER_06: What is that?
- 3:24SPEAKER_06: Um, she would still say she wasn't scared, but I I don't care what she says, she's scared.
- 3:30SPEAKER_06: Um Bobby, I don't think Bobby was really that scared.
- 3:35SPEAKER_00: No.
- 3:36SPEAKER_06: Um no, they had a good time.
- 3:39SPEAKER_06: They they liked it.
- 3:40SPEAKER_06: They did.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: That was good, that was fun.
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: Um, at least Megan, you guys went for your first time.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: What was your initial feeling of the house when you guys first got in there?
- 3:50SPEAKER_03: Pretty calm.
- 3:51SPEAKER_03: I felt no heaviness, just very like almost felt like welcoming for me.
- 3:59SPEAKER_03: I know Tina was definitely having a different experience.
- 4:03SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the room where the access to the attic was, she could not be in that room.
- 4:09SPEAKER_04: So when we went up to the attic, she's like, I'm gonna run real faster.
- 4:12SPEAKER_04: And we're like, that's fine, just don't trip, right?
- 4:14SPEAKER_04: So um, and then the second floor was the floor that I think Chrissy and Tina and even Lori, who was with us, um, they said that's the floor that felt weird to them.
- 4:26SPEAKER_04: Um, so I mean, I the second floor would be the the one I would pick out of the three levels that I thought felt a little weird, yeah.
- 4:33SPEAKER_04: Um, compared to the rest.
- 4:35SPEAKER_04: So but uh but yeah, I mean, you know, I don't get a lot of feelings, Megan.
- 4:40SPEAKER_04: That's why I was like, Megan, you answer this first.
- 4:42SPEAKER_04: She's the one who has the the feels better than I do, usually.
- 4:45SPEAKER_04: So uh, but every now and then uh a room will get me.
- 4:48SPEAKER_04: But uh but yeah, I think the second floor uh was the one where the majority of us felt the weirdest.
- 4:56SPEAKER_02: So which room?
- 5:00SPEAKER_06: Which room was there a room you guys felt that way in a certain room?
- 5:04SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so when we come up the steps to the left is like the room with the dollhouse and the dolls, that room people felt funky and like tingly, and then um when you go across the way, like that room that would take you up to the attic that had the access up to the attic, that's the room Tina felt terrible in.
- 5:22SPEAKER_04: Like she could not be in that room because she felt like she was on a tilde whirl, basically, like just spinning.
- 5:28SPEAKER_04: Um, and I don't think anybody maybe Chrissy had said that room made her feel a little funky too.
- 5:33SPEAKER_03: Felt kind of fun, housey.
- 5:34SPEAKER_03: Yeah, a little bit.
- 5:35SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so so it was those first two, like the next bedroom, bathroom, and then Edwin's room.
- 5:41SPEAKER_04: We were all fine in those.
- 5:43SPEAKER_04: So it was those first two, right when you get up to the top of the second floor.
- 5:46SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
- 5:48SPEAKER_03: I wasn't a fan of the kitchen either.
- 5:50SPEAKER_03: Oh, I noticed when I would go to the restroom, I would run.
- 5:57SPEAKER_03: And I don't know if it was because the basement steps were right there.
- 6:00SPEAKER_03: Maybe that I was having that like moment of like, oh, don't shut out the lights.
- 6:04SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 6:05SPEAKER_00: Oh so the his we'll go back, not the like history, history of Bel Air, but the history of people investigating it.
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: It has changed, you know.
- 6:14SPEAKER_00: Five years ago, people did not like investigating that house.
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: A lot of people, yeah, a lot of people would go there, leave halfway through, and never step foot back in there again.
- 6:24SPEAKER_00: Some people would make you through the night, but say they'll never go back again because whatever's in the basement is dark.
- 6:32SPEAKER_06: Really?
- 6:33SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 6:34SPEAKER_06: Well, that's where I heard the disembodied voice was down in that basement.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that was five years ago, right?
- 6:40SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: So what has changed?
- 6:46SPEAKER_06: Well, depends on how much the place is being cleansed, you know.
- 6:51SPEAKER_06: Um, when you constantly cleanse a home, that kind of lowers the energy in a place.
- 6:56SPEAKER_06: Um, well, who knows?
- 6:58SPEAKER_06: It depends on what people were doing in there.
- 7:02SPEAKER_06: You know, um, are they doing seances?
- 7:06SPEAKER_06: What type of seances?
- 7:08SPEAKER_06: Um what are they opening up?
- 7:10SPEAKER_06: What are they calling upon?
- 7:12SPEAKER_06: You know, you you just don't know what people are doing in the dark.
- 7:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 7:17SPEAKER_06: What they're saying, you know.
- 7:20SPEAKER_00: I mean, at least can you know you probably got a story a little better than I do, but it was Edwin who lost his sister, right?
- 7:26SPEAKER_05: Correct.
- 7:27SPEAKER_00: Um he did seances in the house to bring his sister back, and he invited psychics from all over the United States to try to bring his sister back in the dining room where we set all our stuff up.
- 7:40SPEAKER_00: So that's where the feeling I got when I was there that Edwin kind of took that house back over.
- 7:49SPEAKER_02: Really?
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the kind of feeling I got because it's always about the demonic, the evil spirit down in the basement.
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: Now, could he be mad?
- 7:59SPEAKER_00: Because that his whole life was about talking to his sister.
- 8:03SPEAKER_00: So is it possible that he said enough is enough and kind of took that house back over?
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: Because the house was not about him anymore, it was about whatever's in the basement.
- 8:14SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
- 8:15SPEAKER_04: So, do you want to hear our theory?
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's why we're here.
- 8:20SPEAKER_04: You kind of like as soon as you said what she said, like kind of like go ahead.
- 8:26SPEAKER_03: You want to start?
- 8:27SPEAKER_03: So after we left, I mean, we heard a disembodied voice of a little boy in the living room saying peekaboo as soon as we woke up in the morning.
- 8:37SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 8:38SPEAKER_03: Like it was nuts.
- 8:39SPEAKER_03: I was like, Did anybody else hear that?
- 8:41SPEAKER_03: And three of us out of the four heard it.
- 8:43SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 8:44SPEAKER_03: Um, and you know, I had seen Elise in the dining room.
- 8:49SPEAKER_04: And that's right when we got there, and we were unpacking.
- 8:53SPEAKER_04: She went to the kitchen to put her whatever.
- 8:55SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 8:56SPEAKER_04: And she comes out to the Sams room, the dining room, and she sees me standing there in that front, um, like the back corner.
- 9:02SPEAKER_03: But her back was to me.
- 9:03SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 9:04SPEAKER_03: So I went outside to grab more stuff.
- 9:06SPEAKER_03: And she's standing at the car.
- 9:08SPEAKER_03: And I'm outside.
- 9:09SPEAKER_03: She was outside.
- 9:10SPEAKER_04: I was in the same clothes, and I was everything.
- 9:13SPEAKER_04: So I asked her, I was like, Well, was I wearing the same thing?
- 9:15SPEAKER_04: She's like, Yeah.
- 9:16SPEAKER_06: I was like, Well, I'm wobble ganger.
- 9:18SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 9:19SPEAKER_06: Oh, wow.
- 9:21SPEAKER_03: We um we had really cool Sties.
- 9:25SPEAKER_03: Like we did a double Sties, and we said to touch Elise, and it touched Elise.
- 9:31SPEAKER_04: Very handsy in the basement.
- 9:33SPEAKER_04: Heard her scream in the basement.
- 9:35SPEAKER_04: Never been touched that much or that fast and hard.
- 9:38SPEAKER_04: Like it didn't get hurt, but it was just like a hand, whoom, right in my back, like maybe five, 10 minutes in to that first Sties.
- 9:46SPEAKER_04: And I like jumped because I was like, holy shit, like I've never been touched like that.
- 9:50SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like you know, the little stuff all over me.
- 9:53SPEAKER_04: Um, but that they were just all over me when I was in SDs in the basement, all over me.
- 9:59SPEAKER_03: So when we first got there, I had the feeling of whatever's here is adapting to whatever we want it to be, kind of thing.
- 10:08SPEAKER_03: Was like what whatever we were looking for, kind of thing.
- 10:12SPEAKER_03: We kept getting reactions to OSR, and we had been at OSR the night before.
- 10:17SPEAKER_03: We'd say we'd be talking, just conversating, and the dead bell would go off.
- 10:22SPEAKER_03: And it was kind of like, what's happening here?
- 10:25SPEAKER_03: Are you wanting our attention?
- 10:27SPEAKER_03: And that's when our equipment would go off, was when we were we we were not asking the spirits any questions.
- 10:34SPEAKER_03: It was more of an ignoring them.
- 10:37SPEAKER_03: We were ignoring them, we were getting the most activity, and uh so it wasn't until the morning that I really I always give them like uh my theory at the end after we're leaving and stuff because I don't want to affect anybody's thoughts or their feelings or discredit what they're experiencing.
- 11:02SPEAKER_03: So whenever we were leaving before we left, we decided to do an Estes in the morning.
- 11:08SPEAKER_03: Never done.
- 11:09SPEAKER_03: Oh wow, okay.
- 11:10SPEAKER_03: So let's do an Estes in the morning.
- 11:12SPEAKER_04: Highly recommend, highly recommend.
- 11:14SPEAKER_04: It was a great experience.
- 11:15SPEAKER_03: Awesome, yeah.
- 11:16SPEAKER_03: And um we got she's not my mother.
- 11:22SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then it started getting very nasty.
- 11:27SPEAKER_03: Cursing at us, calling us names, and I said, Yeah, you guys both say that's not nice to me.
- 11:35SPEAKER_03: I'm the one who's under.
- 11:36SPEAKER_03: We said that's not nice.
- 11:37SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if you don't start being nice, something along the lines of if you don't start being nice, we're gonna leave.
- 11:44SPEAKER_03: And she instantly, I'm trying, I'm sorry, it's hard.
- 11:50SPEAKER_04: It was like peaceful or something was the first word that like was different than all the nasty stuff.
- 11:56SPEAKER_03: It was just kind of like uh retracting everything that it had said and was being super nice and almost having a conversation.
- 12:06SPEAKER_03: She sounded like she was having a conversation with herself, yeah, at that point.
- 12:10SPEAKER_03: Wow.
- 12:11SPEAKER_03: And so whenever we left, I had this theory that they say there's Emily in the attic and that there's you know, all these stories of different spirits that are at the house.
- 12:25SPEAKER_03: And I looked at Elise and I said, the time frame of when he was alive, when he grew up, could it be split personality where he's just feeling lonely and he is whatever's gonna get aroused out of whoever's there, he's gonna give you that.
- 12:46SPEAKER_03: People are getting fearful, he's gonna feed into your fear.
- 12:50SPEAKER_03: But if you're having fun and joking around like we were all night, we wake up to a peekaboo in the morning.
- 12:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, like I I said to be nice, and it was like, okay, sorry.
- 13:04SPEAKER_04: And the other thing that we were starting to do some math on is Edwin Lydie's kid.
- 13:11SPEAKER_04: Because, like, and I started looking find a grave and the family search thing and pulling up the family tree.
- 13:17SPEAKER_04: Elizabeth, their mother, would have been 48 when Edwin was born, and the two kids she had prior to him didn't make it, like they died within the year or right of birth.
- 13:32SPEAKER_04: So I was like, this is crazy.
- 13:34SPEAKER_04: Um, and Lydie, which her full her real name's Eliza, um, she would have been 25 years old, you know.
- 13:42SPEAKER_04: So I was like, Did she get pregnant?
- 13:45SPEAKER_04: Was she a product of some crazy incest thing?
- 13:48SPEAKER_04: And then you hide that in the family by having that kid be the brother and your parents take that kid on, because I mean they did that back then, right?
- 13:57SPEAKER_04: And it was easy, it was easy to there weren't good records.
- 14:00SPEAKER_04: So, like, and when we got the um, like I say, she's not my mother on that morning Estees, because I we had that feeling at night before we went to bed.
- 14:12SPEAKER_04: Like, there's too big of a gap between them.
- 14:14SPEAKER_04: I'm like, how old was his mother when she had him?
- 14:18SPEAKER_04: Like, people died in childbirth in their 20s back in the day, you know?
- 14:22SPEAKER_04: Um, so like deep down, I I think I think I think Lighty was his mom.
- 14:28SPEAKER_04: Um, and I think that's why, and maybe when she because she died in the house, they did find an article that said that.
- 14:34SPEAKER_04: I don't know what she passed away from.
- 14:36SPEAKER_04: I couldn't find that.
- 14:37SPEAKER_04: Um, I need to do a little bit more digging to try and find her death certificate online.
- 14:42SPEAKER_04: I have been able to um pin that down.
- 14:45SPEAKER_04: But like maybe, you know, she was chronically ill.
- 14:48SPEAKER_04: Um, we got some weird like breathing and stuff, um, and you know, trouble breathing and all that through SDs and even just feeling it.
- 14:56SPEAKER_04: You know, a couple of you felt like their chest tightening, tightening up and stuff.
- 14:59SPEAKER_04: Like, did she have tuberculosis?
- 15:02SPEAKER_04: And, you know, when she passed away, she finally told them, Hey, I'm really your mom.
- 15:06SPEAKER_04: Because I mean, they did that too, you know, back in the day.
- 15:09SPEAKER_04: They finally got it off their chest and told them, I'm your mother.
- 15:12SPEAKER_04: And maybe that's what drove him kind of insane to like, I gotta contact her.
- 15:18SPEAKER_04: I have so much I want to tell her.
- 15:20SPEAKER_04: I I feel cheated, like she was my mom.
- 15:23SPEAKER_04: Um, because how old was um Elizabeth, the mother?
- 15:28SPEAKER_04: What did we figure?
- 15:29SPEAKER_04: She was how old when Edwin um was um born, or how old was Edwin when she died?
- 15:35SPEAKER_04: I think he was 20.
- 15:36SPEAKER_04: Okay, so but his he was only like five or six whenever his dad died.
- 15:40SPEAKER_04: So yeah, it was the dad he didn't know who that was with.
- 15:42SPEAKER_04: So, but but yeah, we I mean, I definitely think Edwin's the only individual in that house, and he is in control big time because anywhere we went, um that's where we would have activity, yeah.
- 15:56SPEAKER_04: It would follow us, and then when we were eating pizza in the seance room, the tripwire was losing its mind in the living room behind.
- 16:03SPEAKER_04: So we would just like, okay, you know, we need to we need to eat, and then we had a REM pod in the dining room, seance room with us, and it would go off periodically while we were hanging, you know, out the and eating and stuff.
- 16:15SPEAKER_04: So um, but yeah, where we were is where they were.
- 16:19SPEAKER_04: He was, you know, he he followed us the whole time.
- 16:22SPEAKER_04: So um, and I mean he did kind of split because you did the Sties on in the living room.
- 16:27SPEAKER_04: We did the dual S and I was in the basement.
- 16:30SPEAKER_04: We were like right above each other, but we were literally right, like physically right above each other, you know, the layout in the house.
- 16:36SPEAKER_04: So I mean, it it doesn't take that much energy when you're you're that good at it controlling, you know, whatever power you figured out um in the other world that he's in the spirit realm, that he could easily go between those two levels because we weren't that far apart.
- 16:52SPEAKER_04: But um yeah, we were definitely talking to him, I think at the same time.
- 16:57SPEAKER_04: And we were answering each other, and Lori would ask me questions and Megan would answer her, and I'm like, Lori's asking them to me because she's on the steps in the basement, and I'm not even paying attention, obviously.
- 17:08SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, to her.
- 17:09SPEAKER_04: Um, so I'm more listening to what you're saying and then feeding off a bit, you know.
- 17:14SPEAKER_04: So, but uh, but yeah, I I definitely 100% think it's Edwin in the house.
- 17:20SPEAKER_04: Um, so which is why I can't wait to go back.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: Mandy, Mandy, what was your feeling?
- 17:28SPEAKER_06: Um, well, see, I don't I don't really know the history on the place because I don't like to know anything when I go into a location.
- 17:35SPEAKER_06: So, I mean, I I I've known um I remember Edwin, but I really don't know what happened in the house or anything.
- 17:45SPEAKER_06: So uh when I hear you guys talking about it all, I'm like, oh, I don't know all that because I never we never do the history when we go to a location.
- 17:55SPEAKER_03: I don't either.
- 17:57SPEAKER_03: This is what I was picking up as we were there, and then okay, she does a lot of the history, so she'll like kind of verify.
- 18:06SPEAKER_04: But this time, because I it's not fun when you know everything that happened when you go, let's be honest, because you want to be surprised, right?
- 18:14SPEAKER_04: Um, so this time I just look to see ownership of the house.
- 18:18SPEAKER_04: Um, but then after we were done, I was like, all right, let's see if any of this makes sense with the stuff I can find through, you know, the records and newspaper articles and all that stuff that I like to search in.
- 18:28SPEAKER_06: Well, you know, I used to what I used to do, I would just do some spirit writing when I'd go into a place, take 10 minutes, start channeling with spirit, and uh, you know, and I'd be live and we'd put equipment around me and be 10 minutes of writing, and then I would go out there, we'd be out there investigating to see if anything matched up with what I got.
- 18:49SPEAKER_06: So yeah, I mean I mean, everybody does it differently, and you know, you just don't you just don't know what you're gonna get.
- 18:56SPEAKER_06: I I personally um sometimes I wish I would look up the history, but I'm like, I don't want to know because being a medium, I want to go in and I want to just see what I can pick up on instead of just knowing because there's always so much more there.
- 19:13SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
- 19:15SPEAKER_00: Did you pick up on like did you pick up on any like certain like women or children when you're at the house?
- 19:24SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I can't, I don't really remember.
- 19:26SPEAKER_06: I did we did that walkthrough and I was kind of talking about some of the things that was coming to me.
- 19:31SPEAKER_06: I don't remember everything I was getting because I'm like channeling at that time when I'm doing that.
- 19:36SPEAKER_06: Um I I know I'm pretty sure I did pick up on men, women, and and not so nice, something that's not so nice there.
- 19:46SPEAKER_06: I do recall that.
- 19:48SPEAKER_06: Like I think I was picking up on a shadow figure, and that somebody brought something there.
- 19:54SPEAKER_06: Yeah, second floor.
- 19:56SPEAKER_00: You said something about that in the one room.
- 19:59SPEAKER_00: I forget which room it was.
- 20:00SPEAKER_00: You're like, Yeah, something was brought here.
- 20:02SPEAKER_00: I think it's uh you walked down the second floor, it wasn't the one all the way at the end, it was the one at the end to the right, is when you said something was in there.
- 20:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh it was it was funny, but not funny because the men the women there, you guys kind of got verbally abused a little bit.
- 20:21SPEAKER_06: Oh, they were cussing us out.
- 20:23SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I forgot about that.
- 20:26SPEAKER_06: They were nasty, man.
- 20:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they were nasty to you and your sisters.
- 20:31SPEAKER_06: They're probably getting fired up at them because they were being goofy, and yeah, yeah.
- 20:37SPEAKER_06: But yeah, you're right, they were.
- 20:40SPEAKER_00: A lot of B-word came out.
- 20:42SPEAKER_00: I mean, a lot of stuff came out.
- 20:44SPEAKER_00: I mean they were they weren't happy with you three.
- 20:49SPEAKER_06: I know, I know.
- 20:51SPEAKER_06: Um, well, and oh yeah, and I recalled the energy was affecting me.
- 20:58SPEAKER_06: I had to get away from my sisters, man.
- 21:00SPEAKER_06: They were the energy was just making me get angry.
- 21:04SPEAKER_06: I do recall that.
- 21:06SPEAKER_06: I was heading down into the basement to do my solo, and I was just like, all right, I I can hear these guys up there.
- 21:12SPEAKER_06: I'm like, oh my god.
- 21:13SPEAKER_06: I just know I was getting so frustrated.
- 21:17SPEAKER_06: And the energy, I really think the energy, whatever was there was kind of affecting me.
- 21:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know if they're getting upset.
- 21:25SPEAKER_00: I was the second time I was there, not this last time, the one time before, you know, I over the spirit box, I got the B-word nonstop when we're in the living room.
- 21:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it was kind of just pointed at if a female asked a question, that's what would come up every time.
- 21:44SPEAKER_00: So something there does not like women or just disrespects women.
- 21:49SPEAKER_00: And I think you guys were just having a good time.
- 21:53SPEAKER_00: I think that kind of upset them a little bit.
- 21:56SPEAKER_06: Yeah, like we don't want you to have a good time.
- 22:00SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 22:01SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 22:02SPEAKER_06: But it was definitely active when we were there.
- 22:04SPEAKER_06: I mean, we had like little hits there and actually they said my name during the SDs.
- 22:09SPEAKER_06: I remember that too.
- 22:10unknown: Yeah.
- 22:11SPEAKER_00: But they said your name?
- 22:12SPEAKER_06: They said Bobby's name?
- 22:14SPEAKER_06: Didn't they say Bobby Joe?
- 22:16SPEAKER_00: When she was on the stairs.
- 22:17SPEAKER_00: Who did the stairs?
- 22:18SPEAKER_06: You did the stairs and Chassity did too.
- 22:21SPEAKER_00: Okay, Chassity.
- 22:22SPEAKER_00: Chassity's name came up, I think.
- 22:24SPEAKER_06: Was it?
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: Yes, Chassid or Bobby Joe's one that I think it was Chassity's name came up.
- 22:29SPEAKER_00: Over Nacho's spirit box, and he was in the living room.
- 22:35SPEAKER_00: But no, I mean it's it's a different feeling for me.
- 22:37SPEAKER_00: I don't think whatever was dark, dark there is there anymore.
- 22:42SPEAKER_00: But again, they say there's seven portals there.
- 22:45SPEAKER_00: Well, it started off at seven, now there's like 13.
- 22:48SPEAKER_00: But I mean, it's just I don't know.
- 22:52SPEAKER_00: I mean, I just don't think whatever's evil there is still there.
- 22:56SPEAKER_06: You don't think so?
- 22:57SPEAKER_06: I I I kind of feel like it definitely wasn't as bad as it was the first time five years ago when we went in that place.
- 23:05SPEAKER_06: You're right about that.
- 23:07SPEAKER_06: Um, I think there is still something that is kind of lingering, a little bit of that nasty energy, angry spirit, you know.
- 23:15SPEAKER_06: Um there's a weird vibe.
- 23:19SPEAKER_06: Personally, um, I wouldn't want to investigate that place alone, and I'll investigate places alone, but that one right there, oh I don't know.
- 23:28SPEAKER_06: Because I think these things like to lay dormant, and you know, I think they'll come um when the right person's around, you know what I mean?
- 23:37SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so say, um, well, my buddy Sean Austin was just there not long ago.
- 23:42SPEAKER_01: Oh, was he?
- 23:43SPEAKER_06: He had all kinds of bad stuff happening when he was there.
- 23:47SPEAKER_06: Was he by himself?
- 23:49SPEAKER_06: He was with um a friend of his, a friend of ours.
- 23:54SPEAKER_06: It was just those two, and they had all kinds of crazy stuff coming through.
- 24:00SPEAKER_06: So I it could just be the energy of the people that's there.
- 24:04SPEAKER_06: I think uh a lot of the people, the energy will bring them out, or the energy will block them, they won't want to go near.
- 24:11SPEAKER_06: It's just I look at it like this how you are in this life, and when you're a spirit, and if you're still here lingering, you're the same way, your personality is the same way.
- 24:21SPEAKER_06: So if you don't like to be around a lot of people, they're too loud, it's too much, you won't want to be near them.
- 24:28SPEAKER_06: Um, or certain people, you're just drawn to their aura, you know, their energy.
- 24:33SPEAKER_06: And then there's those people that bring out the dark stuff, yeah.
- 24:38SPEAKER_00: Like my buddy Sean, don't bring him out because he has his portable little he's a demonologist, so yeah.
- 24:48SPEAKER_06: The demonologist is coming in the house, look out spirits, and then the darker stuff comes out.
- 24:54SPEAKER_06: I have I have personally witnessed that.
- 24:57SPEAKER_06: No joke.
- 24:58SPEAKER_06: I have seen that done because I have been to a lot of the locations numerous times, never had nothing angry coming, cuss me out, crazy, demonic stuff coming through the recorders and craziness.
- 25:12SPEAKER_06: But when I would take Sean, then it would turn, they'd come out cussing and being nasty and evil.
- 25:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I told you he has a little portable portal in his pocket, he just pulled up.
- 25:29SPEAKER_06: I don't know, but I told him I said nothing was talking like that to me, and I've been here numerous times, and I bring you, and all of a sudden they're all coming at me, and they're all nasty.
- 25:43SPEAKER_06: Yeah, no.
- 25:45SPEAKER_00: When I was in the basement, I didn't feel bad down there, like a heavy feeling.
- 25:51SPEAKER_00: But when I was doing the S's down there, it felt like people just walking around me the whole time.
- 25:58SPEAKER_00: I mean, I felt like five, six people just walking around me, and you can feel their footsteps on the ground.
- 26:05SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the nighttime Sties, that's how I felt.
- 26:08SPEAKER_04: They were just all all around me and touching me.
- 26:12SPEAKER_04: But the morning SDs, I didn't feel like I was surrounded.
- 26:16SPEAKER_04: But I mean, I was definitely talking to Edwin.
- 26:19SPEAKER_04: There's no no doubt in my mind that's who we were talking to in the morning.
- 26:23SPEAKER_04: But the nighttime, I was I was just encased in spirits, they were just all around me when I was under.
- 26:32SPEAKER_04: It was crazy.
- 26:34SPEAKER_00: Or a question here.
- 26:35SPEAKER_00: Sorry to block your faces, but that's the way it works.
- 26:46SPEAKER_00: Anybody can answer it.
- 26:47SPEAKER_01: Well, there, I don't know.
- 26:50SPEAKER_06: Yeah, go ahead.
- 26:51SPEAKER_06: I just think that there's a lot of people.
- 26:54SPEAKER_06: I think it depends on the spirit.
- 26:55SPEAKER_06: Are they introverts?
- 26:57SPEAKER_06: Are they extrovert spirits?
- 26:59SPEAKER_06: Like just like they would have been in life.
- 27:02SPEAKER_06: To me, I think the smaller the people, the crowd, the more activity you'll get.
- 27:08SPEAKER_06: Because sometimes when there's too many people, I think it's overwhelming for the spirits.
- 27:14SPEAKER_06: I prefer small crowd.
- 27:16SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, do you think the location of the place is a big factor in that though?
- 27:22SPEAKER_06: Um, well, you know what?
- 27:25SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it can be because, say, like the Mansfield prison here in Ohio, um, you know, that's that costs a lot to get in there.
- 27:34SPEAKER_06: So um we would take like 12 people to cover the cost.
- 27:41SPEAKER_06: And a big place like that, that's not gonna affect anything.
- 27:46SPEAKER_06: Heck, you could have 15 people, 20 people, and I think you'd be good to go because so huge.
- 27:51SPEAKER_06: And which I know this because we've taken a lot of people to cover the price, and we got amazing activity.
- 27:58SPEAKER_06: And I've been there with only five of us or six, and got a lot too.
- 28:03SPEAKER_06: So I I think it does depend on the size of the location and what the location is.
- 28:10SPEAKER_00: I mean, what I'm trying to get at is like when you go to a hospital, and I always say this in my podcast, you know, patients are only used to one or two people coming, you know, to visit them.
- 28:22SPEAKER_00: Or you go to like uh, you know, Trans-Allegheny, Lunatic Sale Asylum.
- 28:27SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're by themselves unless a nurse or a doctor comes see them.
- 28:32SPEAKER_00: So when you have six people in one room, they probably shy away a little bit.
- 28:37SPEAKER_00: I mean, I would.
- 28:39unknown: Yeah.
- 28:41SPEAKER_00: So I think like depends where you're investigating.
- 28:45SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you're gonna go to like like a gray hall that had parties, yeah, maybe more people might, you know, start the party up again.
- 28:54SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
- 28:56SPEAKER_06: Yep, and I've been to Trans Allegheny too.
- 29:00SPEAKER_06: It's uh that is a very um active place.
- 29:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love Trans Allegheny.
- 29:08SPEAKER_04: I definitely think it depends on your crowd that you're bringing into.
- 29:13SPEAKER_04: Like our groups are always fun, love and light.
- 29:17SPEAKER_04: We're not looking for anything dark, you know.
- 29:19SPEAKER_04: Um, we want to know who's there, but I don't want the nasty to come and get me.
- 29:25SPEAKER_04: Like that's never my goal, that's for sure.
- 29:27SPEAKER_04: Um, never my goal.
- 29:30SPEAKER_04: Um sometimes it's happened to me once, but uh that's it.
- 29:34SPEAKER_04: So far, only once.
- 29:36SPEAKER_04: Uh but uh, but yeah, I mean, like, yeah, twice three other way.
- 29:40SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, the candy shop.
- 29:41SPEAKER_04: Um, but like we're always coming in positive energy, we laugh a lot, we tell jokes, we're super inappropriate with each other, like with some stuff we say, um, you know, but we're having a great time.
- 29:54SPEAKER_04: So I think we put that positive vibe off, and you know, that attracts spirits to us.
- 30:01SPEAKER_04: Like Megan and I are such a good team together.
- 30:04SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't, we're like a yin and yang when we go out.
- 30:07SPEAKER_04: I don't know what it is about the two of us, but we go places, we get activity.
- 30:12SPEAKER_04: Like, and oh, like I don't want to say always because we were kind of new to doing this, and what it jinxed us, but we're pretty damn lucky when we get out there together.
- 30:20SPEAKER_04: And I don't know what it is about like our chemistry that spirits just like and they they want to come see what's going on, they want to come be part of the party.
- 30:30SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, so so I'm I'm a I'm a full believer in if whatever you're looking for, you're gonna find at probably any location that you know has spirits um that are active um for people.
- 30:46SPEAKER_06: So yep, I agree.
- 30:49SPEAKER_06: It's all about the energy that you bring in.
- 30:51SPEAKER_06: Um, that's how it was with my sisters when they were with me.
- 30:55SPEAKER_06: Um, we brought in that uh that fun, you know, energy, and they're gonna come over where the party is.
- 31:03SPEAKER_06: And you know, but is the party, is it always gonna be nice energy?
- 31:07SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 31:08SPEAKER_06: I I get a lot of angry spirits will come around and they'll start cussing us out, you know, calling us names.
- 31:16SPEAKER_06: It's like, hey, why are you so angry, man?
- 31:19SPEAKER_06: You know, right?
- 31:20SPEAKER_06: But yeah, because um, I don't go out, you know, like you said, I don't go out there looking for it, but there's places I've been to where where those things linger and and people practice those things at location at a location that I've been to.
- 31:36SPEAKER_06: And I've had the dark things follow me here to this house, and it was not nice.
- 31:42SPEAKER_06: And I was like, what the heck?
- 31:44SPEAKER_06: I didn't, you know, it just you never know, you know, because I'm all about the love and light too.
- 31:50SPEAKER_06: But sometimes you'll get them stragglers that'll uh that'll sneak and follow you, and that's what happened to me.
- 31:57SPEAKER_04: Do you think they have they can sense that you know they're there and they can communicate with you better?
- 32:04SPEAKER_04: So that's why they're like, Hey, Mandy, I need to talk, like you know, yes, and they'll bring that to you.
- 32:10SPEAKER_04: Okay, okay.
- 32:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's that's why you guys are getting a lot of stuff going on around you because they can read spirit can read your mind, they understand you, so they know who can feel more, who can hear more, whose clears are more open, you know, your senses.
- 32:25SPEAKER_06: Because when you're you know, when you're well, I I read a lot of people, I do a lot of readings, so when I'm all aligned, you know, everything's aligned with me, all my clears are working good.
- 32:36SPEAKER_06: I get more, I'll get more from the spirits, especially when I'm out there investigating.
- 32:41SPEAKER_06: You know, I'm going to a location tomorrow all alone, they're gonna be all over me.
- 32:48SPEAKER_06: Probably good and bad.
- 32:50SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and but they know that I'm not out there looking for that, but they know they know that I can, you know, I can hear them and see them, and you know, so forth.
- 33:02SPEAKER_06: So it'd be interesting.
- 33:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yeah, so I was very excited to go investigate with Mandy.
- 33:09SPEAKER_00: Like, hey, I'm gonna go with Ghost Sisters or Ghost Sister at first, and hey, you know, your sister wanna come, then Jassy wants to come.
- 33:17SPEAKER_00: I'm like, cool, I get all the ghost sisters.
- 33:20SPEAKER_00: So I'm excited, I'm gonna learn, you know, because she's been out there four or five times a week.
- 33:24SPEAKER_00: She's always out there.
- 33:25SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm gonna learn a lot.
- 33:26SPEAKER_00: We did our walkthrough, it's all good, we're serious.
- 33:31SPEAKER_00: About half hour later, I'm like, what the hell is going on here?
- 33:35SPEAKER_06: I'm the serious one.
- 33:37SPEAKER_06: Those two chastity's been with me the longest, but she just uh she's it's not her passion, it's my passion.
- 33:47SPEAKER_06: I started everything years ago, and she's been with me.
- 33:51SPEAKER_06: I give her credit, but I had to kind of cut the cord from the sisters, and I said, All right, you guys ain't can't go out there as much as me, and I don't want to be promoting something, you know, go sisters.
- 34:02SPEAKER_06: Well, where's the sisters?
- 34:04SPEAKER_06: It's mainly me, and they just go when they can, you know.
- 34:08SPEAKER_06: So, and and so that you know what we're gonna do is just have them come with me every now and then as a special appearance, yeah.
- 34:16SPEAKER_00: So it was funny because Chassie said what four words on the podcast, right?
- 34:22SPEAKER_04: I asked you afterwards, I was like, Did she actually talk when y'all were out?
- 34:25SPEAKER_04: Because she did not talk on the podcast.
- 34:28SPEAKER_00: Broke free during investigation, like yeah, she was hilarious.
- 34:34SPEAKER_06: Because she's got money on her mind, her mind is wandering elsewhere.
- 34:38SPEAKER_06: Me, I'm all about the ghost and spirits, and Cassie's all about money.
- 34:42SPEAKER_06: Where can I make my next?
- 34:44SPEAKER_06: You know, so it's funny because and and she's just not she can't she can't focus that well.
- 34:50SPEAKER_06: She's kind of up in her head a lot, so but yeah, you you gotta watch her when you're investigating with her because you let her loose.
- 34:57SPEAKER_06: Well, you know, Ryan, you you got the experience that I I learned my lesson.
- 35:02SPEAKER_00: Don't give chassis a flashlight.
- 35:04SPEAKER_00: That's all I know.
- 35:06SPEAKER_00: That's all I know.
- 35:08SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 35:11SPEAKER_06: Jeremy nuts with that flashlight.
- 35:13SPEAKER_00: She's getting one.
- 35:14SPEAKER_00: I have one I'm getting made for.
- 35:16SPEAKER_06: Now, see, I can go out with my sister Bobby Joe, and me and her will be like you two.
- 35:21SPEAKER_06: We'll get all we'll we'll do really good.
- 35:23SPEAKER_06: And I can go out with just chastity, and yeah, she'll get on my dang nerve, you know, and I'm I'll I'll just be like, but we'll we'll still get a lot of good stuff.
- 35:32SPEAKER_06: But you get us three together, and then it's just it's just too much.
- 35:37SPEAKER_06: It's just too much.
- 35:39SPEAKER_00: It's a good time though.
- 35:40SPEAKER_06: I mean, yeah, it is a good time, it is.
- 35:42SPEAKER_06: I mean, yeah, say that focus on you know, I want to listen and I want to be able to hear what's going on, you know, around and stuff.
- 35:50SPEAKER_06: And then I got my sisters over here.
- 35:54SPEAKER_06: Crazy.
- 35:57SPEAKER_00: Well, you brought it up, so we'll talk your little venture from ghost sisters to ghost sister.
- 36:03SPEAKER_00: Um, how did that change your mindset?
- 36:05SPEAKER_00: Because you're out there trying to find answers, that's your main goal.
- 36:08SPEAKER_00: Um, I watched your one episode, that's all you got so far.
- 36:13SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 36:13SPEAKER_00: Um, trap trap souls.
- 36:17SPEAKER_00: I'm like, Yeah, she's my name.
- 36:20SPEAKER_06: And the band is school.
- 36:22SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I had uh yeah, I'm learning how to edit things on my own, and I've messed up on a couple of my episodes.
- 36:29SPEAKER_06: There was a couple glitches, and I'm like, what is going on?
- 36:32SPEAKER_06: Because I everything looks good before I upload it, and then when it uploads, there's like a little glitch, and it's like, oh my gosh.
- 36:40SPEAKER_06: So I'm still learning, but I had my friend, he was editing my videos for me, and he kind of was helping me to learn how to do it on my own.
- 36:47SPEAKER_06: And my husband, he's he's pretty good at it too.
- 36:50SPEAKER_06: So between the two of them helping me, I learned like that on my own to do it.
- 36:55SPEAKER_06: You know, I'm not no big timer at it, but I can do it to where I can make an episode and you know premiere it.
- 37:02SPEAKER_00: I mean, Trap Souls was good because you kind of spent like the first, I don't know if it's half, but you just yourself and your camera.
- 37:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the girl that was running the camera, and uh you just walked around and got that feeling, and it was kind of interesting to listen to.
- 37:17SPEAKER_00: Then you guys weren't investigated after.
- 37:21SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I could definitely get you in there, Ryan.
- 37:24SPEAKER_06: I'm really good friends with the owner.
- 37:26SPEAKER_00: What school was that?
- 37:28SPEAKER_06: That abandoned school.
- 37:30SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
- 37:31SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, I'm always game, so and I'll probably get you girls in too.
- 37:37SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we're done.
- 37:38SPEAKER_06: Tiffany's cool.
- 37:40SPEAKER_06: Tiffany, the lady that owns it, she's cool, she's really cool.
- 37:43SPEAKER_00: So what what's the place you're investigating tomorrow night?
- 37:47SPEAKER_06: That's a new location, guys.
- 37:50SPEAKER_06: Brand new.
- 37:51SPEAKER_06: And my friend Tiffany that owns that building, um, this guy works for her because she owns her own business, uh, pizza shop.
- 37:58SPEAKER_06: And the guy is one of her workers, and he owns a huge building, a beautiful building in uh Sugar Creek, Ohio.
- 38:07SPEAKER_06: And um, it's got six apartments above it, but it's uh three levels of his store, the basement, the second floor.
- 38:17SPEAKER_06: Um, no, it's two levels, my bad, but it's big.
- 38:21SPEAKER_06: It's it's three levels because you got the uh apartments up there, and then you got the two levels where his store is and the basement and everything.
- 38:29SPEAKER_06: It's huge, it is very creepy.
- 38:33SPEAKER_06: It's called Hangar 81.
- 38:35SPEAKER_06: Um, he shut the store down because his business wasn't doing too good.
- 38:39SPEAKER_06: He was selling a lot of antiques, a lot of different things.
- 38:42SPEAKER_06: Um, but now he's what he's opening it up for private investigations and it's 250 to go.
- 38:48SPEAKER_06: And I'm I'm helping him, uh, I'm promoting it for him.
- 38:52SPEAKER_06: So he's been really cool with me getting in there and getting it out there for him.
- 38:56SPEAKER_06: So yeah, it's it's very active.
- 38:59SPEAKER_06: Um, I had some weird stuff happen when I was there the first night.
- 39:03SPEAKER_06: So I'm going back this time alone, and I ain't gonna lie to you.
- 39:06SPEAKER_06: I'm a little on the edge, but I'm gonna do it.
- 39:10SPEAKER_00: So you're gonna be doing lives on TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, Rainbow, whatever you're doing.
- 39:14SPEAKER_00: So everybody watch her.
- 39:16SPEAKER_00: Um, if you like it, go go hang out.
- 39:20SPEAKER_00: Hanger 81.
- 39:22SPEAKER_00: Very cool.
- 39:23SPEAKER_06: It's it's a good place, and it's pretty good.
- 39:25SPEAKER_06: Um, 250 bucks for that place.
- 39:28SPEAKER_06: It's pretty big.
- 39:29SPEAKER_06: It's good.
- 39:30SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 39:32SPEAKER_00: All right, I'm not gonna lie, I'm still waiting for this Concorde place to come up.
- 39:37SPEAKER_00: The what the the Concorde place you said he got hooked up by me.
- 39:42SPEAKER_06: Oh, oh, I can get in there pretty much whenever I want.
- 39:45SPEAKER_06: Are these messages the lady?
- 39:46SPEAKER_06: I've I'm just waiting.
- 39:48SPEAKER_06: I'm just waiting on it to get warm.
- 39:51SPEAKER_06: Okay, because it's cold, man.
- 39:54SPEAKER_06: It's cold up in there.
- 39:56SPEAKER_06: I mean, I've I've been out there investigating cold places, you know.
- 39:59SPEAKER_06: Um that place gets freezing.
- 40:03SPEAKER_06: So I'm just waiting on the weather to warm up and then we'll I'll get you in there.
- 40:07SPEAKER_00: Uh well, I mean, let me ask you a question.
- 40:09SPEAKER_00: Cold, hot?
- 40:10SPEAKER_00: I mean, does it make a difference when you're investigating?
- 40:12SPEAKER_00: Besides for you, for the spirits.
- 40:14SPEAKER_06: Um, no, I don't think it does.
- 40:17SPEAKER_06: No, nope.
- 40:18SPEAKER_06: Um, nope, they come around regardless whether you know, hot, cold, doesn't matter.
- 40:26SPEAKER_06: I've gotten the same amount of activity during both times.
- 40:30SPEAKER_00: So um, because Madison Seminary seems a lot more active when it's cold.
- 40:38SPEAKER_05: I've been there when it's cold.
- 40:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it just seems a lot more active for me.
- 40:42SPEAKER_00: I've been there 15 times and it's always been a lot more active when it's freezing.
- 40:48SPEAKER_01: That's it.
- 40:49SPEAKER_00: It sucks.
- 40:50SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's terrible.
- 40:52SPEAKER_00: It's 20 degrees in that building and you're freezing, but it's worth it.
- 40:57SPEAKER_06: That's why you wear your overalls.
- 41:00SPEAKER_06: When I go to these cold places, depending if I know there's no heat, I'm gonna wear my overalls.
- 41:05SPEAKER_06: Um I've got the whole snowsuit gear and I'm warm, except for my nose.
- 41:11SPEAKER_06: The nose.
- 41:13SPEAKER_06: But that's interesting that you you've gotten more when it's cold.
- 41:18SPEAKER_04: That's do you think it's because there's less people there?
- 41:22SPEAKER_04: Because less folks go out in the cold.
- 41:24SPEAKER_04: And we went to West Virginia Penitentiary in November, and like it was the sugar shack was awesome for us because it was warm and it was slightly warmer than the rest of the prison.
- 41:35SPEAKER_04: Um, but there was hardly anybody there because it was November and cold.
- 41:39SPEAKER_04: So, like, I'm thinking in my mind, like the overwhelming, you know, you get too many people in there and they go, ugh, this is like too many people.
- 41:47SPEAKER_04: Or um, sometimes they'll say, like, all these folks will come through and they're just tired and they don't want to come out and deal with you because they're exhausted, you know, and you get to where it's cold and there's less people.
- 41:58SPEAKER_04: Well, less folks are coming to say, hey, what's up?
- 42:00SPEAKER_04: So then they come out because oh, there's people here.
- 42:03SPEAKER_04: We have the energy and the time and the want to interact.
- 42:07SPEAKER_04: Like that's in in my mind, I think maybe that has to play into it too, where the colder months can be more active because less people are coming around.
- 42:16unknown: Yeah.
- 42:16SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay, that makes sense.
- 42:18SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 42:18SPEAKER_06: And you know what's interesting?
- 42:20SPEAKER_06: I've heard the the spirits tell me, I'm cold, it's cold.
- 42:25SPEAKER_06: They always say it's cold.
- 42:27SPEAKER_06: And I just you'd think they'd be used to it, right?
- 42:30SPEAKER_06: They're always saying they're cold.
- 42:33SPEAKER_06: And I'm like, oh no, I don't like that.
- 42:35SPEAKER_06: I don't like hearing them say they're cold, you know.
- 42:39SPEAKER_00: Was it you that just put the meme out earlier today?
- 42:42SPEAKER_00: If you had one question to ask, a spirit, what would you ask?
- 42:46SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that was you or someone else.
- 42:47SPEAKER_06: Oh, that was me.
- 42:48SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 42:49SPEAKER_00: Oh, I was gonna put what's the weather like because I want to dress appropriate.
- 42:56SPEAKER_00: You don't want to be cold.
- 42:58SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know what?
- 42:58SPEAKER_06: That's I'm gonna ask them spirits that tomorrow when I'm investigating.
- 43:02SPEAKER_06: Yeah, what's the weather like?
- 43:03SPEAKER_00: What's the weather like?
- 43:06SPEAKER_00: It's freezing.
- 43:09SPEAKER_00: It's freezing, better put some overalls on.
- 43:13SPEAKER_04: It might be real hot where you're going, so don't worry.
- 43:17SPEAKER_00: I'm sticking around.
- 43:18SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 43:19SPEAKER_04: Oh, you're not leaving.
- 43:20SPEAKER_04: That's true.
- 43:21SPEAKER_04: That's true.
- 43:23SPEAKER_04: He doesn't have a school, he can't go anywhere.
- 43:25SPEAKER_04: Oh, oh, she got you there.
- 43:29SPEAKER_00: Uh, we usually feel cold when spots when we sense spirits or interaction.
- 43:34SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
- 43:37SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 43:38SPEAKER_00: Um, so once cryptid sister coming out.
- 43:40SPEAKER_00: I'm waiting.
- 43:41SPEAKER_00: I've been waiting since our last podcast.
- 43:44SPEAKER_00: Mandy.
- 43:46SPEAKER_06: I'm sorry, my my granddaughter was running by her, and I'm I'm trying to, I'm like, why is she keep running by my room?
- 43:52SPEAKER_06: Um, when cryptid sisters come out, is that what you're saying in the podcast?
- 43:56SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 43:58SPEAKER_06: Oh, you mean when we're gonna go look for Cryptids, yeah.
- 44:01SPEAKER_06: Um, I've been talking to well, I can't say too much what's going on.
- 44:05SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't say too much.
- 44:06SPEAKER_06: Um, but there I am gonna be, I do have um projects that uh I'm I'm uh gonna be involved in and filming, and um it's gonna be if it all goes like they're working on it.
- 44:22SPEAKER_06: Um we got a meeting, we gotta go over everything, and um I can just tell you that it won't it'll it'll be cryptid stuff, it'll be the paranormal, it'll be um ha like homicide cases, it's gonna be a little bit of everything rolled in the one, kind of like that.
- 44:41SPEAKER_04: If it goes, if everything goes, it's what is it mostly gonna be like in Ohio or are you gonna expand to like other places?
- 44:50SPEAKER_06: If this goes, if they if it if it takes off, um they're gonna try to do a series, it it would be it could be all over.
- 44:59SPEAKER_06: It could be in Ohio, it could be in Indiana, it could be wherever the cases are.
- 45:04SPEAKER_06: Um it's hard for me to explain because of what it is.
- 45:07SPEAKER_06: I can just say it's pretty cool.
- 45:10SPEAKER_06: Um it'll it it'll be a I'll I'll just tell you it'll be called paranormal justice.
- 45:16SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so I mean a little hint little hint.
- 45:20SPEAKER_00: And uh you'll be excited about that though, with your law enforcement background.
- 45:25SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
- 45:26SPEAKER_00: To go in that route.
- 45:27SPEAKER_06: I mean, do you know actually me um um appointed judge that a real judge is also might be well he's let's just say he'll be the he'll be in it, he'll be there, but yeah, um I I'm all about the cryptid stuff.
- 45:50SPEAKER_06: I I really am.
- 45:51SPEAKER_06: Um I'm about all the stuff, but the cryptid stuff is really cool.
- 45:55SPEAKER_06: I mean, because I think it kind of goes hand in hand with the paranormal.
- 46:00SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's amazing when I had a couple people out do the like the Bigfoot hunting, how much we investigate the same.
- 46:10SPEAKER_00: Like we kind of investigate the same, those the same way, trying to find the answers.
- 46:15SPEAKER_00: And I found it kind of interesting how we do that.
- 46:19SPEAKER_00: Um, have you ever like gone out and searched for Bigfoot or any other cryptids?
- 46:26SPEAKER_06: We did Bigfoot one time.
- 46:28SPEAKER_06: Did you well I had an encounter?
- 46:30SPEAKER_06: Well, I didn't see it or anything, not an encounter.
- 46:33SPEAKER_06: I can't well, yeah, I got a couple things that happened.
- 46:36SPEAKER_06: Yeah, no, I didn't see you know Bigfoot or anything like that, but we were uh the reason why we went, this is like years ago, like I probably had been in the field for maybe about a year when this happened.
- 46:48SPEAKER_06: Uh my husband and I went um on our anniversary in Athens, Ohio, and we had uh something strange happen when we were hiking, and it was in October, and uh nobody was with us, and it wasn't quite dark yet, but it was kind of getting there.
- 47:05SPEAKER_06: And when we uh we were kind of debating on whether we were gonna turn around and go back or continue down this path, and as soon as we were kind of arguing, debating about it, and next thing you know, when I was like, let's just keep going.
- 47:21SPEAKER_06: As soon as I said that and we started to walk, we both seen this huge rock.
- 47:28SPEAKER_06: I don't know what it was.
- 47:29SPEAKER_06: I remember it was like black or something, it came from above where the trees was, and it hit the tree, broke, and it bounced into the pathway into the water.
- 47:41SPEAKER_06: And my husband looked at me and he said, Mandy, let's get the heck out of here now.
- 47:48SPEAKER_06: And he left me.
- 47:49SPEAKER_06: I ain't kidding you guys.
- 47:50SPEAKER_06: When I say this man left me, he's in law enforcement, he left me.
- 47:54SPEAKER_06: He left me, took off.
- 47:56SPEAKER_06: He he couldn't stop running, he was going down the hill so fast he couldn't stop.
- 48:00SPEAKER_06: He once he gained momentum, he was gone.
- 48:03SPEAKER_06: And I'm like, I'm trying to be careful, like going down the yeah, and I got let's just say when I got down to the end of this path, I was not happy I was going off on him.
- 48:16SPEAKER_06: I was like, You left me.
- 48:18SPEAKER_06: What was that?
- 48:19SPEAKER_06: But we made a video about it because we wanted to like remember everything we experienced, and we the timing of it was weird, you know what I'm saying?
- 48:28SPEAKER_06: And we were getting weird smells because we had been over at the uh oh the the tunnel place right there in Athens, Ohio.
- 48:36SPEAKER_06: Um, you guys heard of the I can't think of what that tunnel's called, but it's a it's haunted over there.
- 48:44SPEAKER_06: Moon the the moon?
- 48:47SPEAKER_06: Yes, okay, yeah.
- 48:49SPEAKER_06: So that's where we had we were over there and we were getting this weird smell, and then we went over to that place which which was about two miles away from there.
- 48:58SPEAKER_06: That's a haunted location, but they had where you can go hiking too, and we were doing that.
- 49:04SPEAKER_06: It was just all the weird timing of it, you know.
- 49:06SPEAKER_06: We wanted to keep going, and it was like I felt like something was like, No, you're not, no, you're not, because what's the odds of that?
- 49:14SPEAKER_06: As soon as you say, Okay, are we gonna leave or we're gonna keep going?
- 49:17SPEAKER_06: And then we started to keep going, and boom, out of nowhere, you know, something throws a huge rock and it bounces and scares us off, you know.
- 49:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something made that decision for you.
- 49:30SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and then so I told my team about it, and I said, Hey, we need to go up there, we need to go up there and look, and maybe we'll find some tracks.
- 49:37SPEAKER_06: Well, we went and sure enough, had two of uh, because we used to have two guys on our team.
- 49:43SPEAKER_06: Um, one was our uh, he was the guy that set up the cameras, and the other guy was the uh history guy.
- 49:50SPEAKER_06: He did it all looked up everything.
- 49:52SPEAKER_06: Well, oh, I'm so sorry for that.
- 49:55SPEAKER_06: Um, anyway, they went down by the water and they found a footprint, and they actually took a picture and we actually shared it on Ghost Sisters, and I I'm pretty sure it's somewhere in the million pictures.
- 50:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's gotta be because yeah, and and I remember when we posted it, all these researchers were on there, and they were like, That's a footprint, that's a big footprint.
- 50:21SPEAKER_06: And I'm like, Oh my god, are you serious?
- 50:26SPEAKER_06: So, yeah, I've had weird stuff happen, and more.
- 50:31SPEAKER_06: There's more, but I won't go into it all.
- 50:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, you don't have to.
- 50:34SPEAKER_02: That's good.
- 50:36SPEAKER_06: Don't get me started on these cryptids now.
- 50:38SPEAKER_06: I love it.
- 50:38SPEAKER_06: I could go on and on with cryptids like I can paranormal.
- 50:42SPEAKER_00: I I mean cryptids are weird, like I would love to go out and search for Bigfoot, but then I'm freaked out about bears.
- 50:49SPEAKER_00: Like, and really, yeah, I don't want to run into a bear.
- 50:53SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's my whole thing, right?
- 50:56SPEAKER_06: Me either.
- 50:58SPEAKER_00: So, like, I I would love to go out at night.
- 51:01SPEAKER_00: I'm for Bigfoot.
- 51:03SPEAKER_06: I'm for dog man.
- 51:05SPEAKER_00: You're oh you're dog man.
- 51:07SPEAKER_06: I like Bigfoot too, but I I'm dog man, he just scares the crap out of me.
- 51:12SPEAKER_06: And I got this thing where I like I I don't know what it is.
- 51:14SPEAKER_06: I I like scary stuff.
- 51:16SPEAKER_06: I windigo is over in Ohio too, right?
- 51:19SPEAKER_06: Yeah, the windigo, yeah.
- 51:21SPEAKER_06: There's there's a quite a bit of stuff.
- 51:23SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you got the windigo, you've got that uh well, I don't know what I can't remember what's called, but it it it's like uh the crawler thing.
- 51:35SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 51:36SPEAKER_06: It's uh it doesn't have no no hair, it's all skin.
- 51:41SPEAKER_06: I can't remember what it's called, but it's a cryptid.
- 51:44SPEAKER_06: My daughter's seen it out here on our road, and it it it terrified.
- 51:49SPEAKER_06: Let me tell you, when I tell you guys it terrified my daughter, it terrified my daughter, and she still is scared to come into this house at night.
- 51:57SPEAKER_06: Wow, I kid you not.
- 51:59SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 52:01SPEAKER_00: I mean there's so much Native American folklore, too.
- 52:05SPEAKER_06: And I'm surrounded by you know the woods and um cornfields.
- 52:12SPEAKER_00: Uh Chupacaba, was it made up to scare kids to go outside?
- 52:17SPEAKER_00: Or is it real because it only came about in 1980s?
- 52:26SPEAKER_06: Uh no, I think it's real.
- 52:28SPEAKER_00: I think it's bigfoot, bigfoot goes all the way back to Native Americans.
- 52:33SPEAKER_00: But you're talking 1980s, Puerto Rico that's when Chuper Cabo came out.
- 52:38SPEAKER_00: I think it was the scare scare tactic.
- 52:44SPEAKER_00: I mean, I could be wrong.
- 52:45SPEAKER_00: I mean, who knows?
- 52:46SPEAKER_00: I'm not going down to Mexico and trying to find out or Texas and Chuper Cabo, but Texas, Mexico, yeah, same thing.
- 52:56SPEAKER_00: Mexico, Texas, it's the same thing right now.
- 52:58SPEAKER_00: So um frog man, frogman, frogman in Loveland, Ohio.
- 53:04SPEAKER_00: I just heard about frogman the other day.
- 53:07SPEAKER_06: Oh, yes, that's up around Athens.
- 53:11SPEAKER_06: That that frogman has been sighted over there where I was.
- 53:15SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I've I've read on that, yeah.
- 53:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's on Facebook.
- 53:20SPEAKER_00: I don't know, whatever.
- 53:22SPEAKER_00: It's frogman.
- 53:23SPEAKER_00: I can't how can like a frog like kind of like suck well?
- 53:29SPEAKER_06: You know, my husband loves toads and and all those things.
- 53:33SPEAKER_06: He loves them.
- 53:34SPEAKER_06: If he came across something like that, he'd be like, get a selfie.
- 53:40SPEAKER_06: Let's capture it.
- 53:42SPEAKER_00: Let's go, frogman.
- 53:44SPEAKER_06: Um right.
- 53:46SPEAKER_06: I'm not kidding, you guys.
- 53:48SPEAKER_00: Um so you started your TV series.
- 53:52SPEAKER_00: I'm on Call of Tv series, that's what it is on YouTube.
- 53:55SPEAKER_00: How's that going?
- 53:56SPEAKER_06: I mean, it's going.
- 53:58SPEAKER_06: Um, I've um I've got one right now uploading.
- 54:01SPEAKER_06: Um, and it'll be my my sixth um episode.
- 54:05SPEAKER_06: I actually like it.
- 54:06SPEAKER_06: You know what?
- 54:07SPEAKER_06: To be honest with you guys, if I if I didn't never have to worry about going live again, I wouldn't worry about going live.
- 54:14SPEAKER_06: It'd all be filming.
- 54:16SPEAKER_06: One day, I hope that I won't have to worry about that, and somebody will be editing and following, you know, following me and editing all my stuff for me.
- 54:27SPEAKER_06: I hope.
- 54:29SPEAKER_06: One can hope.
- 54:32SPEAKER_00: You do a good job.
- 54:33SPEAKER_00: I mean, I like your lives.
- 54:35SPEAKER_00: I mean, because you're old.
- 54:37SPEAKER_06: It's just uh when you're live, you gotta constantly, you know.
- 54:40SPEAKER_06: I I well I tap in the spirit, tap out and out because I'm I'm trying to not be rude and not pay attention to the comments when people are on there, but yet I'm trying to pay attention to what's going on around me.
- 54:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's be hard.
- 54:55SPEAKER_06: When I don't have to worry about the live, it's when we're just filming, because I always film before I go live.
- 55:04SPEAKER_06: I like it so much more.
- 55:06SPEAKER_06: So much more.
- 55:09SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's good.
- 55:12SPEAKER_00: Um we have some investigations coming up too.
- 55:17SPEAKER_00: Well, nothing, I don't think anything major is there.
- 55:21SPEAKER_00: Uh Moundsville.
- 55:23SPEAKER_04: Um, so uh May 1st is Madison, my birthday party.
- 55:29SPEAKER_04: Um, so yeah, we have that one.
- 55:30SPEAKER_04: Although you're not gonna be there for very long if you have to work.
- 55:33SPEAKER_04: Um, and then the Friday after that is West Virginia Penitentiary.
- 55:37SPEAKER_04: We got a good group put together uh for that one.
- 55:41SPEAKER_04: Um, but we're going to Beale Manor um after that.
- 55:44SPEAKER_04: Yumi and Carrie.
- 55:46SPEAKER_04: Um that'll be my first time there, and I think they're their first time there too.
- 55:50SPEAKER_04: I know you've been there before, Ryan, right?
- 55:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've been of course, yeah.
- 55:53SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 55:54SPEAKER_04: Um, we just scheduled the Hinsdale House for November 6th, so that should be an adventure.
- 56:00SPEAKER_04: Um, we're gonna go out in the woods there, right, Ryan?
- 56:03SPEAKER_00: Yes, we'll look for Bigfoot.
- 56:07SPEAKER_04: Oh everything else is out in those woods over there, yeah.
- 56:11SPEAKER_04: So um, but uh I think terrace view is like, you know, maybe the biggest one.
- 56:18SPEAKER_04: Um we heard that story.
- 56:22SPEAKER_04: Heard your story.
- 56:23SPEAKER_06: And see, we get to go back.
- 56:25SPEAKER_06: That's the cool part.
- 56:26SPEAKER_06: We get to go back, but we're waiting until they get everything um to where you can go live.
- 56:31SPEAKER_06: I don't want to have to worry about Johnny Lowell coming up on me.
- 56:34SPEAKER_06: Um I want to be able to go live and stuff.
- 56:37SPEAKER_06: And because of what had happened to us, they've been really cool.
- 56:41SPEAKER_06: And they're we're going to their other location.
- 56:44SPEAKER_06: They're they are um compensating us for what had happened, and we're getting two nights at their one hospital.
- 56:52SPEAKER_06: They have um, I think it's in Nevada, maybe cool, and then that we get to go back to the terrace view for a couple nights.
- 57:02SPEAKER_06: So I'm just waiting.
- 57:04SPEAKER_00: John John and all has been pretty good over there because uh they just busted some people breaking in there, yeah.
- 57:10SPEAKER_06: So yeah, someone just terrace view, yeah.
- 57:13SPEAKER_00: Someone just broke in and they caught the one, the one kid actually came forward, so right, right.
- 57:19SPEAKER_04: So yeah, we're not there until November 7th.
- 57:22SPEAKER_04: So I hope like by then maybe we can go five or two, but we'll see.
- 57:26SPEAKER_05: So that place was cold, girl, when we went.
- 57:28SPEAKER_05: It was but like I said, I was bundled up.
- 57:31SPEAKER_05: I was prepared.
- 57:32SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 57:32SPEAKER_05: That's it.
- 57:33SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna tell everybody make sure you have lots of layers that the break room is heated, but you know, yeah, freezing your tail off.
- 57:41SPEAKER_04: So be prepared.
- 57:43SPEAKER_04: Um we got a huge group, it's like 30 people, I think.
- 57:48SPEAKER_04: This is like our end of the year party.
- 57:50SPEAKER_06: Oh, Lord, my anxiety would shoot up to the roof.
- 57:54SPEAKER_04: No, it's like a laid-back kind of uh, you know, Ryan and I are gonna come up with some crazy challenges and torture a few people, you know, kind of like we did with OSR.
- 58:03SPEAKER_04: So it should be a good time.
- 58:04SPEAKER_00: So yeah, we're uh doing uh a haunted escape room.
- 58:09SPEAKER_01: Oh, cool.
- 58:10SPEAKER_00: Um, some people will be handcuffed and blindfolded, just saying I don't want to give too much information out, but it'll be fun.
- 58:18SPEAKER_00: This is we call it the Fellowship of the Spirits.
- 58:20SPEAKER_00: We started it last year, just a whole bunch of groups get together and have a good time and kind of end of the year talk about what we've done all year and plan a little bit for next year.
- 58:30SPEAKER_05: Wow, that's cool.
- 58:32SPEAKER_00: We'll get hopefully someone to come over.
- 58:34SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking Germany next year.
- 58:36SPEAKER_00: Still thinking Germany.
- 58:37SPEAKER_00: I don't know why it's sticking in my head.
- 58:39SPEAKER_00: Germany, there has to be some haunted stuff in Germany.
- 58:41SPEAKER_06: I know.
- 58:42SPEAKER_06: I want to go to Ireland, and uh I'm uh my husband keeps saying, I'll fly you out there.
- 58:47SPEAKER_06: You can go, you can go.
- 58:48SPEAKER_06: I said you knew you know you better quit saying that because you know I'll be on that plane.
- 58:52SPEAKER_00: That's not bad.
- 58:53SPEAKER_00: I'm going to UK in June 5th.
- 58:57SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm in ghostly gatherings and Emily Paranormal out there and just investigating for five days straight.
- 59:02SPEAKER_06: So there you go.
- 59:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 59:05SPEAKER_00: Again, you live once, might as well go.
- 59:06SPEAKER_06: So might as well.
- 59:08SPEAKER_00: And I'm going solo.
- 59:10SPEAKER_06: I don't blame you.
- 59:12SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 59:13SPEAKER_00: But I'll be that trip's gonna be fun.
- 59:15SPEAKER_00: I can't wait.
- 59:16SPEAKER_00: We're gonna whales, do a whole bunch of castles and all that fun stuff.
- 59:18SPEAKER_00: So scared in I don't even know what the places they got booked, they booked everything already, so that's awesome.
- 59:26SPEAKER_00: That's history there, right?
- 59:28SPEAKER_06: Yeah, the kings and queens.
- 59:30SPEAKER_06: That that's where I want to go.
- 59:31SPEAKER_00: We're going 1300s, 1400s.
- 59:34SPEAKER_00: So excited.
- 59:36SPEAKER_00: I'm excited, and I had to buy the stupid haunted doll for Stephanie from Haunted Havens.
- 59:42SPEAKER_00: I told her I'd buy a haunted doll and bring it back for her.
- 59:45SPEAKER_00: So not excited about it.
- 59:52SPEAKER_04: So you make it back in one piece.
- 59:54SPEAKER_00: I already told her if that plane goes down, I'm haunting her for the rest of her life.
- 59:58SPEAKER_04: So that's that's it.
- 1:00:02SPEAKER_00: Oh, I know you gotta get off here, Mandy.
- 1:00:06SPEAKER_00: I appreciate you coming on.
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_00: Talk a little bit about Bel Air and what's going on in the future for you.
- 1:00:13SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:00:14SPEAKER_06: All right, you're going to New York.
- 1:00:16SPEAKER_00: New York.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_06: So that that will be for paranormal reality TV, and that'll be awesome.
- 1:00:24SPEAKER_00: Are you doing anything else with Sean Austin coming up?
- 1:00:27SPEAKER_00: Or appreciate everybody jumping on.
- 1:00:29SPEAKER_00: Obviously, follow Ghost Sisters, YouTube, Rainbow, TikTok, Facebook.
- 1:00:35SPEAKER_06: See, got too much.
- 1:00:36SPEAKER_06: It's too much.
- 1:00:38SPEAKER_00: All that stuff.
- 1:00:39SPEAKER_00: Follow her on that.
- 1:00:41SPEAKER_00: Um, I'll make paranormal's on YouTube, TikTok, and Facebook.
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_00: Follow them.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_00: Thanks again, and everybody have a good night.