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- 1:28Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, but first the special Crime
- 1:31Speaker 1: Online dot Com End of the Year Review. Twenty eighteen
- 1:34Speaker 1: was a year of scientific advances that help crime fighters
- 1:37Speaker 1: catch bad guys, new strategies for using DNA, better tracking
- 1:41Speaker 1: of cell phone signals, and improved use of digital evidence.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Was also year of unexplainable crimes husbands, fathers, stepparents, killing
- 1:50Speaker 1: spouses and their children. The top six crime stories of
- 1:53Speaker 1: twenty eighteen is covered by Nancy Grace. Number six the
- 1:57Speaker 1: disappearance of Jamie Class, thirty year old girl who vanished
- 2:01Speaker 1: as both parents are shot dead at their Wisconsin home
- 2:04Speaker 1: in October. Baron County, Wisconsin. Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald says a
- 2:09Speaker 1: mysterious nine one one call made from a cell phone
- 2:12Speaker 1: inside the home is a major clue in the case.
- 2:15Speaker 1: The nine O one call was given that night from
- 2:17Speaker 1: the residence on a cell phone, but no contact was
- 2:22Speaker 1: made with somebody that was on the other line. And
- 2:24Speaker 1: that's what's unusual about that nine O one call. There
- 2:26Speaker 1: was no one communicating with our disbet. Jamie is still
- 2:29Speaker 1: missing and the murders of her parents unsolved. The tip
- 2:33Speaker 1: line for anyone with information on Jamie's whereabouts is one
- 2:37Speaker 1: eight five five seven, four four three eight seven nine.
- 2:41Speaker 1: See details at crime online dot com. Crime story number
- 2:45Speaker 1: five for twenty eighteen the kidnapping and murder of Iowa
- 2:49Speaker 1: college student Molly Tibbots. The twenty year old woman vanished
- 2:52Speaker 1: on July eighteenth, triggering a major search and investigation that
- 2:56Speaker 1: ended nearly five weeks later with the arrest of Christian Vera,
- 3:00Speaker 1: who led police to where he dumped her body. Iowa
- 3:03Speaker 1: Division of Criminal Investigation Special Agent Rick Ron she was
- 3:07Speaker 1: found in a cornfield and there were cornstalks placed over
- 3:11Speaker 1: the top of her Ravero was charged with snatching Molly
- 3:14Speaker 1: as she jogged on a Brooklyn, Iowa street, then killing
- 3:18Speaker 1: her and dumping her body in a cornfield. An autopsy
- 3:21Speaker 1: concluded she died from multiple sharp force injuries. Crime story
- 3:26Speaker 1: number four the arrest of a suspect in the Golden
- 3:28Speaker 1: State killer cases. Intended to help trace genealogy. California investigators
- 3:33Speaker 1: identified seventy two year old Joseph James DeAngelo as the
- 3:37Speaker 1: men believed to have murdered at least thirteen people and
- 3:40Speaker 1: committed more than fifty rapes from nineteen seventy four through
- 3:43Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six. Jane Carson Sandler was the fifth victim
- 3:47Speaker 1: of what was then known as Sacramento's East Area rapists.
- 3:51Speaker 1: She joined Nancy Grace for a crime stories podcast at
- 3:53Speaker 1: Crime Con just days after DeAngelo's arrest. My husband, Roger
- 3:58Speaker 1: and I we cried and we sobbed, and we laughed,
- 4:02Speaker 1: and we jumped up and down and just could not
- 4:06Speaker 1: could not believe it. And I've said before, I think
- 4:08Speaker 1: we could have woken up the hotel. We were just
- 4:11Speaker 1: so joyous. Crime Story number three for twenty eighteen the
- 4:15Speaker 1: disappearance and murder of Mom Kelsey Bareth, a flight instructor
- 4:19Speaker 1: who vanished from Woodland Park, Colorado, on Thanksgiving Day, but
- 4:23Speaker 1: it was two weeks before her mother reported or missing.
- 4:26Speaker 1: A major clue came as investigators realized her cell phone
- 4:29Speaker 1: pinged eight hundred miles away in Twin Falls, Idaho District
- 4:33Speaker 1: Attorney Dan May, Yes, her phone did end up in Idaho,
- 4:37Speaker 1: and we're still working to recover that phone. And that's
- 4:41Speaker 1: about all I can comment. But that phone information was accurate.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Her phone did end up in Idaho, and we were
- 4:47Speaker 1: working to try to recover that fiance, Patrick Frazy, was
- 4:50Speaker 1: arrested on a first degree murder charge just before Christmas.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Detectives concluded that he killed Bareth in her home, but
- 4:57Speaker 1: where he hit her body remained a mystery. The number
- 5:00Speaker 1: two crime story of twenty eighteen was the disappearance and
- 5:03Speaker 1: death of little Lucas Hernandez, a five year old who
- 5:06Speaker 1: vanished from his Wichita, Kansas home in February while under
- 5:10Speaker 1: the care of stepmom Emily Glass. It was North Carolina
- 5:13Speaker 1: private investigator David Marshburne who coaxed Glass into leading him
- 5:17Speaker 1: to where she dumped Lucas's body under a rural bridge,
- 5:20Speaker 1: and he recorded Glass as she began to confess to
- 5:23Speaker 1: harming her stepson. Emily Glass took her own life on
- 5:40Speaker 1: June sixth in the same home where Lucas is believed
- 5:43Speaker 1: to have died. And The top crime story of twenty
- 5:46Speaker 1: eighteen was the disappearance and murder of pregnant Colorado mom
- 5:49Speaker 1: Shenan Watts and her two young daughters. It began in
- 5:53Speaker 1: August when the mother and kids vanished from their Denver
- 5:56Speaker 1: area home. Husband and father, Chris Watt, spoke to a
- 5:59Speaker 1: Denver television reporter in the first days, Shenan Bella, Celeste.
- 6:05Speaker 1: If you're out there, just come back, like if somebody
- 6:08Speaker 1: has heard, please bring her back. I need to see everybody.
- 6:12Speaker 1: I need to see everybody again. This house is not
- 6:14Speaker 1: complete without anybody here. But it didn't take long for
- 6:22Speaker 1: detectives to realize there was something wrong with Chris watts story.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Security video from a neighbor showed the husband loading what
- 6:28Speaker 1: turned out to be his family's remains into his truck.
- 6:31Speaker 1: A mistress came forward to police. Finally, a confession from
- 6:35Speaker 1: Chris Watts, who led police to where he stuffed his
- 6:38Speaker 1: daughter's bell and Celeste in oil tanks and where he
- 6:41Speaker 1: buried his wife in a shallow grave. Watts took a
- 6:44Speaker 1: pleae deal to avoid a death penalty trial, and he
- 6:46Speaker 1: was sentenced to serve the rest of his life in
- 6:48Speaker 1: prison and transferred to Wisconsin for his own protection. Crime
- 6:58Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy. In two thousand and seven, at the
- 7:04Speaker 1: age of seventy five, Casey Cason was diagnosed with a
- 7:07Speaker 1: Parkinson's like disease called Louis body dementia. It closed them down.
- 7:13Speaker 1: They can either get rigid or shaking. It may sometimes
- 7:19Speaker 1: affect their speech. In two thousand and nine, he gave
- 7:23Speaker 1: up his beloved radio show and signed off for the
- 7:27Speaker 1: last time. Now one more time, keep your feedom the
- 7:30Speaker 1: ground and keep reaching for the stars. Here Casey would
- 7:35Speaker 1: have no financial worries with an estate valued between eighty
- 7:39Speaker 1: and one hundred million dollars. But around that time, Genie
- 7:42Speaker 1: claims his children became focused on one thing. It was
- 7:48Speaker 1: all about the money. We became the bank of CASEM,
- 7:51Speaker 1: the personal ATM machine. You're hearing the widow of legendary
- 7:56Speaker 1: Casey Cason. That's a gene case m accusing his chill
- 8:00Speaker 1: and focusing on nothing but money. Being interviewed by CBS
- 8:04Speaker 1: Peter van Zand, Well, the plot thickens listen. Around twenty twelve,
- 8:10Speaker 1: According to Genie, Casey was fed up and cut them
- 8:14Speaker 1: off financially. Gennie says the kids were furious, but instead
- 8:17Speaker 1: of getting mad, Genie claims Carrie and the others did
- 8:21Speaker 1: something almost unimaginable. I believe that Carrie Kayson did kill
- 8:28Speaker 1: my husband, that it was a long term, premeditated plan,
- 8:33Speaker 1: and he's gone. It's just light after light after life
- 8:37Speaker 1: without any evidence. You are hearing reporter Peter van Zand
- 8:41Speaker 1: with CBS interviewing Casey Kayson's widow, I Meancy Grace, this
- 8:46Speaker 1: is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. What
- 8:48Speaker 1: happened to legendary star Casey Kayson? Right now? In a
- 8:52Speaker 1: bizarre twist, his widow claims his three children from his
- 8:57Speaker 1: first marriage, not her bio children, conspired to murder him
- 9:02Speaker 1: for his money, but they say she is the one
- 9:07Speaker 1: who killed the radio star. With me right now, Alan
- 9:12Speaker 1: joining me from La Alan, just give me a bear bones.
- 9:16Speaker 1: What happened this legend of radio It was diagnosed with
- 9:20Speaker 1: Louie body disease, which is a parkinson like disease that
- 9:24Speaker 1: is degenerative. He deteriorated over the next seven years, and
- 9:29Speaker 1: there was some serious family feuding going on between the
- 9:33Speaker 1: three children from his first marriage and his then wife,
- 9:37Speaker 1: his widow now Jean Casum he'd been married to for
- 9:41Speaker 1: about thirty years before his death, and each say it
- 9:45Speaker 1: is all about the money. Well they're both saying that,
- 9:47Speaker 1: but right now, the question is what happened Casey Cason
- 9:51Speaker 1: listened that move that night was to get him out
- 9:54Speaker 1: of the drama and to keep him safe and secure.
- 9:58Speaker 1: We had had enough. Genie, Casey's wife of thirty four years,
- 10:03Speaker 1: says she was convinced her husband's life was in danger.
- 10:07Speaker 1: What were you thinking, Genie, I was thinking, and it
- 10:12Speaker 1: was time to protect my husband. You're hearing her explaining
- 10:16Speaker 1: why she took Casey out of a Santa Monica care
- 10:20Speaker 1: facility and took him on a quote road trip in May.
- 10:25Speaker 1: He's ailing, He's suffering from this syndrome. She thought she
- 10:29Speaker 1: had to protect him, so, she says by taking him
- 10:31Speaker 1: out of a care facility the legendary DJ Casey. Case's
- 10:35Speaker 1: widow claims his three grown children conspired to kill him
- 10:39Speaker 1: for the one hundred million dollar estate, but they blame
- 10:43Speaker 1: her Gene Casum, his second wife. She says, the children
- 10:48Speaker 1: tricked their father into signing overpower of attorney to them,
- 10:52Speaker 1: and they are the ones responsible for his death. But
- 10:57Speaker 1: what really happened? Joining your now, Troy Slayton, defense lawyer
- 11:02Speaker 1: out of LA high profile defense lawyer. You're very close
- 11:06Speaker 1: with the children. Have just spoken recently to Carrie. What's
- 11:09Speaker 1: your understanding of what's happening, Troy? Is that everything that
- 11:12Speaker 1: Gene is saying is completely belied by the facts. Where
- 11:18Speaker 1: she claims that Carrie killed her husband by essentially pulling
- 11:25Speaker 1: the plug. What happened was hydration and nutrition was removed
- 11:33Speaker 1: by the order of or at the recommendation of three doctors,
- 11:38Speaker 1: an internist, a hospitalist, and an ethicist, and the judge
- 11:44Speaker 1: in Los Angeles gave Carrie Caseum that those that authority
- 11:49Speaker 1: to allow the doctors to do what they thought was basta. Wait,
- 11:54Speaker 1: let me understand this. So it's the daughter who made
- 11:58Speaker 1: the decision to pull the plug? It was it was
- 12:01Speaker 1: the daughter following the orders or the recommendation of three doctors. Well,
- 12:07Speaker 1: I can tell you this, Troy Slayton. I hear what
- 12:09Speaker 1: you're saying, and you're very good friends with the children
- 12:13Speaker 1: that when it came right down to it, I did
- 12:15Speaker 1: not want the plug pulled on my father. I wanted
- 12:18Speaker 1: him to live if there was any chance. I was
- 12:21Speaker 1: having a showdown with the doctors hoping that he could live.
- 12:26Speaker 1: And I also find it very interesting joining me psycho
- 12:30Speaker 1: analyst doctor Bethany Marshall, also in LA. Why does everything
- 12:33Speaker 1: happen in LA? Don't you people have enough money and
- 12:36Speaker 1: enough luxury homes and cars and plastic surgery to be happy?
- 12:40Speaker 1: Because from what I am understanding, it's her Jane Cayson,
- 12:45Speaker 1: the wife, the second wife is the one who hires
- 12:50Speaker 1: a private investigator who concludes that Casey Kyson was the
- 12:54Speaker 1: victim of homicide. Now that's according to forty eight Hours.
- 12:57Speaker 1: She's the one that hires the PI to find out
- 12:59Speaker 1: what happened. What am I missing here, Bethany? Well, I
- 13:02Speaker 1: mean if she hired the PI, it doesn't imply that
- 13:05Speaker 1: she would be guilty, you know, Nancy, I hear this
- 13:07Speaker 1: from a mental health perspective. In the seventies and the eighties,
- 13:09Speaker 1: we had this term blended families that if the dad remarried,
- 13:14Speaker 1: then the stepmother and the step childre Bethany, you know,
- 13:19Speaker 1: you're much too glamorous to make your own breakfast, but
- 13:21Speaker 1: I make John David as smoothie. And when you blend
- 13:24Speaker 1: things sometimes there's big chunks in it that just don't
- 13:26Speaker 1: go down very well. Right, So we talk about a
- 13:28Speaker 1: blended family, I think this one had a few chunks
- 13:30Speaker 1: in it that don't go down very well. That's why
- 13:32Speaker 1: I say the idea of the blended family was a myth.
- 13:36Speaker 1: There's a lot of research regarding blended families, and what's
- 13:39Speaker 1: happening in the Casey Kaysum family happens in every other family. Initially,
- 13:43Speaker 1: the stepchildren idealize their stepmother, That stepmother is like the bestie,
- 13:48Speaker 1: and then within a few years they begin to hate
- 13:50Speaker 1: the stepmother. She's not my mom, it's your fault. My
- 13:53Speaker 1: dad divorced. You're not really his wife. And there's a
- 13:56Speaker 1: very telling statement. I think it's Kerry kasum Or. One
- 13:59Speaker 1: of the children said, why did Jean get the mansion
- 14:03Speaker 1: when I work for a living? So somehow these kids
- 14:07Speaker 1: feel that the money that was given to the wife
- 14:10Speaker 1: of thirty four years should be going to them, And
- 14:13Speaker 1: I think that's what this is all about, if they
- 14:15Speaker 1: don't think that she's his real wife. But she might
- 14:18Speaker 1: be crazy, she may have made very poor medical decisions.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Maybe she did against doctor's advice, load him in the
- 14:24Speaker 1: back of an suv in a paranoid state, and take
- 14:27Speaker 1: him to a private home to nurse him for the
- 14:29Speaker 1: remainder of his months or years. But she was still
- 14:32Speaker 1: his wife, and I think that's where the confusion lies
- 14:34Speaker 1: in all of this. Can you tell me something, Bethany?
- 14:37Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany joining me along with Troy Sleyton, Joseph Scott Morgan,
- 14:41Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, and Alan Deacon of course, joining us shortly
- 14:46Speaker 1: will be Jane Cason Bethany when my dad was on
- 14:52Speaker 1: his deathbed, and it pains me to even say those
- 14:55Speaker 1: words in the same sense, I just wasn't thinking straight.
- 15:00Speaker 1: But every night I would make him a cup of
- 15:02Speaker 1: decap and a certain way, and I would give him
- 15:06Speaker 1: a dessert after supper. Now he was borderline diebag and
- 15:10Speaker 1: had heart issues, so I'd have to make a special dessert, okay.
- 15:14Speaker 1: And I remember this, and I don't know what was
- 15:16Speaker 1: in my head, but as he was lying there and
- 15:19Speaker 1: everybody else was saying you can go now, it's okay,
- 15:24Speaker 1: let go, I was literally in his ear saying, come home, Daddy.
- 15:29Speaker 1: I'll make a cup of decap, come home, don't go,
- 15:33Speaker 1: do not go, don't leave me. Well, so I'm just
- 15:37Speaker 1: projecting what may have been going through her mind. I mean,
- 15:41Speaker 1: that makes no sense at all, like loading him up
- 15:43Speaker 1: in the back of the station wagon to take him.
- 15:45Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't have to make
- 15:47Speaker 1: sense so well, well, to me, it makes sense if
- 15:50Speaker 1: you think that the step children are nipping at the
- 15:53Speaker 1: parents heels wanting the money. I'm trying to visit the dada,
- 15:56Speaker 1: and I understand why they would want to visit the dad.
- 15:59Speaker 1: I'm just this from a research perspective on what I
- 16:01Speaker 1: know happens in all families. Most families when a stepmother
- 16:06Speaker 1: is introduced, that the children develop great animosity for the
- 16:10Speaker 1: step parent, and then the stepparent sometimes gets very paranoid
- 16:13Speaker 1: and very crazy in an attempt to protect the marriage.
- 16:16Speaker 1: This happens in case after case after case. I've seen
- 16:19Speaker 1: it in my practice. There's research that backs this up.
- 16:22Speaker 1: So I think this is the underlying scheme that could
- 16:25Speaker 1: account for all the craziness as well as eighty two
- 16:27Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, is that the step kids did not
- 16:31Speaker 1: feel that their stepmother was rendering good care. Now, should
- 16:35Speaker 1: she have him up in the back of an suv,
- 16:37Speaker 1: Absolutely not, and she did at ama against medical advice.
- 16:41Speaker 1: But the fact that the children wanted to pull the plug,
- 16:44Speaker 1: I think is very suspicious because unless a patient has
- 16:48Speaker 1: cancer and is an extraordinary pain or is on life support,
- 16:53Speaker 1: usually family members do not want to pull the plug.
- 16:55Speaker 1: They want to sit by the side of their loved
- 16:57Speaker 1: one and let them slowly drift away, and that's how
- 17:00Speaker 1: it goes. So the pull that wasn't the case here.
- 17:04Speaker 1: The doctors three doctors said that having him hooked up
- 17:08Speaker 1: to hydration and nutrition, which sounds like, you know, a
- 17:12Speaker 1: basic life support that you would give anyone. You don't
- 17:14Speaker 1: want anyone to starve or die of dehydration. That those
- 17:18Speaker 1: were actually killing him because his organs were shutting down
- 17:23Speaker 1: and his G tube was backing up, That those things
- 17:26Speaker 1: were actually causing him more pain than they were doing good.
- 17:30Speaker 1: And a judge made a distinct finding that Gene Cason
- 17:35Speaker 1: was not acting in his best interests. Do you believe
- 17:39Speaker 1: that your husband, Casey Cason, feared his children, Yes, and
- 17:43Speaker 1: feared that they could do what what they did, which
- 17:46Speaker 1: was kill him. That's ridiculous. That's that's ridiculous. There's no
- 17:54Speaker 1: more evil in this world than Gene Thompson Cason. You
- 17:58Speaker 1: were hearing just a tiny taste of whats been going
- 18:00Speaker 1: on regarding the death of DJ's superstar Casey Kayson, who
- 18:05Speaker 1: can't remember America's Top forty and the voice of Shaggy
- 18:09Speaker 1: for Pete's sake, and Scooby Doo. I remember when I
- 18:14Speaker 1: was doing Dancing with the Stars and it was the
- 18:17Speaker 1: first time I was away from the children for extended
- 18:20Speaker 1: periods of time, and my husband allowed my son to
- 18:24Speaker 1: develop a very unhealthy obsession with Scooby Doo. So we
- 18:27Speaker 1: watched it night and day. We'd order the DVDs, would
- 18:31Speaker 1: scour the aisles of Target for more Scooby Doo. That
- 18:34Speaker 1: voice will go down in history. We're talking about not
- 18:38Speaker 1: just his stellar career, but the death of Casey kaysm
- 18:41Speaker 1: Right now, what we understand is that Casey Kayson's widow,
- 18:45Speaker 1: claiming his three adult children from his first marriage, conspired
- 18:50Speaker 1: to kill Casey for his money. But they say she
- 18:55Speaker 1: quote air quote murdered the radio legend. What is the answer?
- 19:03Speaker 1: We just left off in a feud between Bethany Marshall,
- 19:07Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst in LA, and Troy s Layton,
- 19:11Speaker 1: high profile defense attorney in LA who is very dear
- 19:14Speaker 1: friends with Kyson's children. Shouldn't it be a simple matter
- 19:18Speaker 1: to Joseph Scott Morgan, death investigator, professor forensics, Jacksonville State University,
- 19:23Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon to figure
- 19:26Speaker 1: out why he died. What do you know about the
- 19:28Speaker 1: disease he had, Joe Scott, Yeah, Louis body dementia is
- 19:32Speaker 1: in kind of the same class as Parkinson's but it
- 19:35Speaker 1: has a different feel for it. And many times people
- 19:38Speaker 1: are initially misdiagnosed with Parkinson's and which you know, many
- 19:42Speaker 1: of us that have people with Parkinson's and our families,
- 19:45Speaker 1: so we've knowed tremors and the unsteady gait and this
- 19:47Speaker 1: sort of thing. But with the Louis body dementia, over
- 19:50Speaker 1: a period of time, you begin to see that people
- 19:52Speaker 1: will present with hallucinations, they're disoriented, and it ends with
- 19:58Speaker 1: them completely in a contracted state where they're not able
- 20:01Speaker 1: to even take care of themselves. They're basicut way minute
- 20:04Speaker 1: when you say a contracted state, Okay, does that mean
- 20:07Speaker 1: they physically die, well, but from the disease or they
- 20:11Speaker 1: mentally disintegrate. Yeah, they disintegrate mentally, but also as a
- 20:16Speaker 1: result of that, their physical faculties failed them. They can't
- 20:19Speaker 1: feed themselves. They become very rigid, and many times they'll
- 20:23Speaker 1: begin to hallucinate and you know, they'll see things that
- 20:26Speaker 1: aren't you know, that aren't part of reality, and they're
- 20:30Speaker 1: muted as well. They they lose the ability to actually speak.
- 20:34Speaker 1: So you have a person, an adult person who is
- 20:39Speaker 1: in a very infantile state at this point. They're very
- 20:41Speaker 1: very vulnerable now. This is what we know. Leading up
- 20:44Speaker 1: to Casey Caysum's of death, there was another battle brewing.
- 20:47Speaker 1: The eldest daughter of eighty one year old Casey Caysum
- 20:50Speaker 1: is claiming that her stepmother, Gene Casum, is banning her
- 20:53Speaker 1: and her siblings, her uncle, and Casey's closest friends from
- 20:56Speaker 1: seeing him. Kerry Casum tell CNN that she used to
- 20:58Speaker 1: visit her dad once a week until about three months ago,
- 21:01Speaker 1: when she was suddenly no longer allowed visitation. There have
- 21:04Speaker 1: been some accusations that Casey's children want access to him
- 21:08Speaker 1: because they're after his estate, and that's something Carrie strongly denies.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Here's what she told CNN about that. My dad told
- 21:13Speaker 1: us a long time ago we were not in the will,
- 21:16Speaker 1: and we're okay with that. We've known that for years.
- 21:18Speaker 1: I don't want any of his money. My father taught
- 21:20Speaker 1: us to stand on our own two feet, and I'm
- 21:22Speaker 1: proud of that. It's not about the money. We love
- 21:24Speaker 1: our father and he's been ripped from us. You are
- 21:27Speaker 1: hearing my friend aj Hammer reporting regarding what was going
- 21:32Speaker 1: on before Casey passed away. To Kathleen Murphy, we need
- 21:38Speaker 1: you now, Kathleen. Family lawyer joining us. It sounds like
- 21:41Speaker 1: the children are battling to have visitation with their father.
- 21:44Speaker 1: That sounds exactly like that to me too, Nancy. And
- 21:47Speaker 1: it appears to me that they were resigned to not
- 21:50Speaker 1: getting the money. They loved their dad. We love our dad,
- 21:54Speaker 1: and I don't see any motives on the part of
- 21:56Speaker 1: the children, any motives except for the true love of
- 22:00Speaker 1: their faulting. Well, it's a little confusing to me because
- 22:03Speaker 1: what we're hearing in Troyce Laton. I want you to
- 22:05Speaker 1: listen to this. You're the defense lawyer. You're signing with
- 22:07Speaker 1: the children. I'm not signing with anybody, by the way,
- 22:09Speaker 1: because I don't know the answer yet. But the children,
- 22:13Speaker 1: they say, we're fine about being written out of the wheel.
- 22:16Speaker 1: But listen to this. Gene claims that Casey has no
- 22:20Speaker 1: memory of ever signing that document. Watch the tape, put
- 22:23Speaker 1: the address but UPS store. You'll see my dad knew
- 22:26Speaker 1: what he was doing, knew what he was signing. Now,
- 22:29Speaker 1: a state planning is normally done in a lawyer's office.
- 22:32Speaker 1: You're at a ups store. He was terrified the Gene
- 22:34Speaker 1: would find out. Let me give you Jean's interpretation of
- 22:38Speaker 1: what she told me and this is you yep, and
- 22:41Speaker 1: this is your father. Yes. Now there's a circle here
- 22:44Speaker 1: because he supposedly had had a medical procedure and had
- 22:47Speaker 1: sutures in his head. Is that true to my knowledge?
- 22:50Speaker 1: That is falsified information you're hearing right there. That's CBS
- 22:54Speaker 1: reporter Peter van Zank questioning the daughter Kerrie Cason, about
- 22:58Speaker 1: the unusual circumstances about how sheen or siblings got their
- 23:02Speaker 1: dad to sign a trust document at a Hollywood UPS store,
- 23:07Speaker 1: you know, United Parcel Services. So why is such an
- 23:12Speaker 1: important document being signed by him at the UPS store
- 23:17Speaker 1: at the counter, a very serious legal document with a
- 23:22Speaker 1: guy with one hundred million dollars fortune? What's happening? And
- 23:25Speaker 1: then the other allegations that he actually had stitches in
- 23:28Speaker 1: his head and was being presented with his document by
- 23:31Speaker 1: his daughter to sign. What if anything doesn't mean? Now?
- 23:36Speaker 1: The daughter says, you knew exactly what he was doing.
- 23:39Speaker 1: Not so, says his widow of thirty four years, Jeane Case.
- 23:43Speaker 1: And right now Gene Cason is joining us live, miss
- 23:48Speaker 1: caseon thank you for being with us, Hello, Nancy, thank
- 23:50Speaker 1: you for having me, miss Case. Over all the years
- 23:53Speaker 1: I've watched you and Casey Cays on red carpets and
- 23:57Speaker 1: Hollywood events, and he's always dressed in a black tuxedo
- 24:02Speaker 1: and you're always just in this glamorous dress with the
- 24:06Speaker 1: beautiful hair. I'm looking at you right now with your
- 24:10Speaker 1: hair all done up in a red glittery dress, and
- 24:12Speaker 1: you both have beautiful smiles, and it just seems like, yeah,
- 24:16Speaker 1: had the world by the tail. What happened, Jean, Well,
- 24:22Speaker 1: like you said, we were married for thirty four years,
- 24:24Speaker 1: and we had a beautiful life, and we were inseparable,
- 24:29Speaker 1: and we worked very hard, and when we weren't working,
- 24:33Speaker 1: we worked even harder for charitable events. Jean, I don't
- 24:36Speaker 1: understand how everything went sideways. I know that Casey Kayson,
- 24:41Speaker 1: who I'm just a huge fan. I was just telling
- 24:43Speaker 1: the others a story of I know he's gone from
- 24:47Speaker 1: your world, but in our world, my children watch Scooby
- 24:52Speaker 1: Doo incessantly, and of course the top forty is still
- 24:56Speaker 1: in syndication right now. He is living on forever. But yeah,
- 25:02Speaker 1: I don't understand. I know he was ill, but I
- 25:05Speaker 1: don't understand what's happening now. I know that he left
- 25:10Speaker 1: you his estate and at that time, the grown children said, Hey,
- 25:13Speaker 1: we're fine with that. We've got our own money. But then,
- 25:16Speaker 1: how did this legal document end up getting signed an
- 25:20Speaker 1: executorship I believe at a ups store and it's called
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- 26:53Speaker 1: Grace with Me is Casey Kayson's widow, Gene Kayson, married
- 27:00Speaker 1: to Casey the Legend for nearly forty years. What do
- 27:05Speaker 1: you believe happened, Miss Cason? Well, I think everybody needs
- 27:09Speaker 1: to go back to the year twenty thirteen when they
- 27:12Speaker 1: filed the first corrupt guardianship attempt of my husband. In
- 27:19Speaker 1: the court Field documents. The first stipulation was to consent,
- 27:25Speaker 1: refusal of consent, or withdrawal of consent to any care, treatment, service,
- 27:33Speaker 1: or procedure to maintain, diagnose, or treat any physical or
- 27:38Speaker 1: mental condition of the proposed conservative, including without limitation, the
- 27:44Speaker 1: withholding or withdrawal of life sustaining procedures in a terminal condition.
- 27:51Speaker 1: I think that shows the premeditation, and I think that's
- 27:55Speaker 1: why they took him down on Hollywood Boulevards in a
- 27:59Speaker 1: ups or to basically sign his life away. He was alone,
- 28:06Speaker 1: he had no legal counsel. It was there was undue influence.
- 28:11Speaker 1: He had stitches in his head, he had been recuperating
- 28:15Speaker 1: from surgery, He was on various medications and no glasses,
- 28:21Speaker 1: you know, hearing you describe that. So what he was signing,
- 28:25Speaker 1: I guess, Kathleen Murphy with me family lawyer as an
- 28:28Speaker 1: executorship of sorts, that they the children would make the
- 28:32Speaker 1: decision as to whether he would remain on life support. Kathleen,
- 28:36Speaker 1: that's correct. Fancy. The children's behaviors and actions as described
- 28:41Speaker 1: by miss Caseum are concerning Jane Cason with me and
- 28:45Speaker 1: Choice Light, and I'm going to give you a chance
- 28:47Speaker 1: to defend the children with whom your friends. Jane. I'm
- 28:51Speaker 1: just listening to what you're saying, and it was ultimately
- 28:54Speaker 1: the children that decided to take him off life support.
- 28:58Speaker 1: And you're saying that, in your mind, premeditation for exactly
- 29:02Speaker 1: that began when they got him to sign over this
- 29:06Speaker 1: document at a UPS store. Is that right? Well, Matthew,
- 29:09Speaker 1: the document was signed on Veterans Day and my husband
- 29:12Speaker 1: was a VET in two thousand and seven and held
- 29:16Speaker 1: in secrecy until it was actively concealed until twenty thirteen,
- 29:25Speaker 1: and that's when they filed and that document allowed them
- 29:29Speaker 1: to make the life support decision. Is that right? No?
- 29:32Speaker 1: I don't really like the words life support because at
- 29:36Speaker 1: that time he was very much alive, and life support
- 29:41Speaker 1: to me means that there's artificial machines allowing one to live,
- 29:50Speaker 1: and that was not the case. Ah. You know what,
- 29:53Speaker 1: that is a very important distinction. You're absolutely right. Let
- 29:58Speaker 1: me ask you this, when you took him, there's a
- 30:03Speaker 1: lot of controversy is swirling around your decision to pack
- 30:06Speaker 1: him up and taking him out of that care facility
- 30:09Speaker 1: in Santa Monica. Can you explain your reasoning? Well, first
- 30:13Speaker 1: of all, Nancy, let me tell you how that first
- 30:16Speaker 1: corrupt attempt to end it. It was denied for no
- 30:19Speaker 1: good cause, and it was ultimately denied with prejudice and
- 30:24Speaker 1: put to an end. Case closed on January fourteen, twenties old.
- 30:29Speaker 1: On just a moment, Jane royce lytton defense lawyer, you're
- 30:32Speaker 1: defending the children today. The judge actually ruled against them.
- 30:37Speaker 1: The judge when Gene Casum attempted to go into court
- 30:43Speaker 1: to have artificial hydration and nutrition reinstated onto Casey Caseum,
- 30:55Speaker 1: and she went in ex parte, that means, on her own,
- 30:57Speaker 1: into court and convinced the judge to order the hospital
- 31:02Speaker 1: to reinstate those things. Now I'm sorry, I must interrupt
- 31:06Speaker 1: ex parte does not mean on your own. I was
- 31:09Speaker 1: represented with legal counsel. And I hate to correct you,
- 31:14Speaker 1: but I hate to correct you, but I really want
- 31:17Speaker 1: the facts to come out because there has been such
- 31:19Speaker 1: a false narrative put out there about me and about
- 31:24Speaker 1: my daughter Liberty, and about Casey. So I really, I
- 31:28Speaker 1: really feel strongly in having to stop you when you're
- 31:32Speaker 1: going down the wrong track. I think what he meant was, Um,
- 31:35Speaker 1: you're saying you went with your lawyers and your reps.
- 31:38Speaker 1: He means the other side, the children weren't there. X
- 31:40Speaker 1: party means just one side goes before the judge Troy Slayton.
- 31:44Speaker 1: When you were giving the details, you left out the
- 31:46Speaker 1: little fact that the judge it previously ruled against the children.
- 31:51Speaker 1: You know. To Jane Caseum, why do you think the children?
- 31:56Speaker 1: You're accusing the children basically murdering their dad? I want
- 32:00Speaker 1: to find out why you think they would have, what
- 32:03Speaker 1: their possible motivation was, and why that day you felt
- 32:07Speaker 1: you had to remove him from that care facility, you know, Nancy,
- 32:10Speaker 1: after it was denied with prejudice for no good cause
- 32:13Speaker 1: in case Clothes. Four months later they filed another fraudulent
- 32:18Speaker 1: guardianship petition, and when you know that somebody is trying
- 32:25Speaker 1: to kill your husband, you will do everything in the
- 32:29Speaker 1: world to try to protect him. Jasey and I knew,
- 32:34Speaker 1: and we spoke many times after the first attempted guardianship
- 32:38Speaker 1: of what their motives were. Back to that evening that
- 32:42Speaker 1: he left the care facility. What was your thinking, Jane,
- 32:46Speaker 1: Just to seek peace, just so I could care for him.
- 32:50Speaker 1: Just seeking peace, just so I could care for him
- 32:53Speaker 1: peacefully without all the disruptions, without the onslaught of the media,
- 33:03Speaker 1: without being stalked, without being followed, without being harassed. You
- 33:11Speaker 1: were married to Casey Kayson for I know, thirty four years,
- 33:14Speaker 1: and you you courted before that. When did you first
- 33:19Speaker 1: realize the children? His children did not like you. I
- 33:23Speaker 1: don't know why. I've always contributed to their lifestyle and
- 33:29Speaker 1: their livelihood. What do you mean by that you contributed
- 33:32Speaker 1: to their lifestyle and their livelihood? Well, where do you
- 33:35Speaker 1: think they got their money from? From their dad? Definitely
- 33:38Speaker 1: from you and their dad. Now it's my understanding that
- 33:42Speaker 1: they worked. Is that right? Choice? Lytton? Did the children
- 33:44Speaker 1: have their own jobs? That's absolutely true, Nancy. They are
- 33:48Speaker 1: all independently successful. Julie who is well. Carrie, who's his
- 33:55Speaker 1: eldest daughter, has been in broadcasting, has been a model
- 33:59Speaker 1: for over twenty years. Julie is a physician's assistant and
- 34:03Speaker 1: her husband is a well renowned cardiologist at UCLA. And
- 34:07Speaker 1: one important thing that I just need to make sure
- 34:10Speaker 1: that everyone understands is that Gene is claiming that this
- 34:13Speaker 1: so called quote homicidal guardianship scam started in two thousand
- 34:18Speaker 1: and seven when Casey signed that power of attorney or
- 34:21Speaker 1: that durable power of attorney for healthcare. But the court
- 34:26Speaker 1: didn't rely on that two thousand and seven power of attorney.
- 34:28Speaker 1: It relied on the two eleven Advanced Healthcare Directive that
- 34:32Speaker 1: Gene had Casey signed when he wasn't competent to do so,
- 34:36Speaker 1: according to his good friends. And in that two eleven
- 34:40Speaker 1: healthcare Directive that Gene had him sign, it said that
- 34:45Speaker 1: if extension of his life would result in a mere
- 34:48Speaker 1: biological existence, and he wouldn't, it was essentially terminal. That
- 34:54Speaker 1: he didn't want any artificial life sustaining procedures, including nutrition
- 35:00Speaker 1: and hydration. That's from the terrible power of attorney that
- 35:04Speaker 1: Jeane had him signed. I want to go to Bethany
- 35:06Speaker 1: Marshall psychoanalyst bethany way In, I mean this sounds like such,
- 35:12Speaker 1: it's so much legal maneuvering. But when it boils down
- 35:15Speaker 1: to it, when you hear Jeane talking about her husband,
- 35:19Speaker 1: I mean I can tell she loved him. She loves him. Yes,
- 35:23Speaker 1: I think that Casey Cayson's body and health has become
- 35:28Speaker 1: the battleground for a power struggle between the stepmother and
- 35:32Speaker 1: the stepchildren. I think that's what's really happening. I think
- 35:35Speaker 1: all this health stuff and all this wrongful death long
- 35:39Speaker 1: lawsuit is a red herring, meaning it's an excuse. The
- 35:43Speaker 1: fact is she was his wife for thirty four years.
- 35:47Speaker 1: He loved her, he chose her. That's what we have
- 35:50Speaker 1: to remember. No matter what the children think, their father
- 35:54Speaker 1: chose Jane to be his wife, and therefore their agreements
- 35:58Speaker 1: and their love and their relationships supersede what's happening with
- 36:03Speaker 1: the children. The children have their own lives, their own spouses,
- 36:06Speaker 1: their own careers. And when one of the children said,
- 36:09Speaker 1: we don't care about the money, I don't believe that,
- 36:12Speaker 1: because we all care about money. You care about money.
- 36:14Speaker 1: I care about money. Yes, it is salt in the
- 36:17Speaker 1: wound when a parent dies and leaves everything to one
- 36:20Speaker 1: person and doesn't distribute amongst the children and the grandchildren.
- 36:24Speaker 1: I've seen this in so many cases in my practice.
- 36:28Speaker 1: His decision, not the children. Casey Kasim's family feud is ongoing.
- 36:33Speaker 1: His wife with me right now, Jeane Casim and his
- 36:37Speaker 1: adult children bile wrongful death suits against each other in
- 36:42Speaker 1: a battle for his fortune. To Jane Casim, was his
- 36:48Speaker 1: will honored? Where did the bulk of his estate go
- 36:52Speaker 1: upon his death? Well, remember Nancy, They kept saying that
- 36:55Speaker 1: it wasn't about the money, but now they're fighting about
- 37:00Speaker 1: all the money. So we're in court. You are saying
- 37:03Speaker 1: that Casey's children carried Julian Michael, we're all after his
- 37:08Speaker 1: money and that eventually your husband cut them off financially.
- 37:13Speaker 1: Is that correct, Gene Cason? That is correct? What led
- 37:16Speaker 1: him to do that? Well, they say that they're all
- 37:19Speaker 1: financially stable, but we were issuing checks up until the
- 37:24Speaker 1: year twenty twelve. I have hundreds and hundreds of checks
- 37:30Speaker 1: that total almost three million dollars. Okay, you know, Troy
- 37:35Speaker 1: s Layton, defense lawyer, friends with the children. You say
- 37:38Speaker 1: they're all financially independent. Three million dollars that that's not independent, Troy.
- 37:45Speaker 1: If that's true, I don't know whether that's true or not,
- 37:48Speaker 1: but I know that by twenty eleven, his dear friend,
- 37:54Speaker 1: who was thirty years in broadcasting Les Martins and also
- 37:59Speaker 1: in attorney, spoke to Casey regularly on the phone, and
- 38:04Speaker 1: by twenty eleven knew that Casey was no longer able
- 38:08Speaker 1: to recall common stories and adventures that they had had
- 38:14Speaker 1: and it's all going to come out in court. Well,
- 38:18Speaker 1: this is what I understand, Troy. If it's not about
- 38:20Speaker 1: the money, why are the children filing a wrongful death
- 38:22Speaker 1: suit which is for money because they believe that their
- 38:28Speaker 1: stepmother hastened and caused the death of their father. They're seeking,
- 38:35Speaker 1: They're seeking, they're seeking justice to Gene Cayson. This is
- 38:39Speaker 1: Casey's widow. What was your reaction when you found out
- 38:44Speaker 1: his children had filed a wrongful death suit against you?
- 38:47Speaker 1: I was surprised because they were the ones that took
- 38:51Speaker 1: him to the hospital for a supposed independent medical evaluation.
- 38:56Speaker 1: It was a ruse, of course, and they then kept
- 39:01Speaker 1: him for an unauthorized overnight observation and then they began
- 39:08Speaker 1: to chemically restrain him and withdraw all of his hydration, nutrition,
- 39:14Speaker 1: and proactive medical care. And on a Friday evening, June sixth,
- 39:20Speaker 1: with all courts closed, I received a call to come
- 39:23Speaker 1: to the hospital, where I was told, along with our
- 39:28Speaker 1: daughter Liberty, that they had already begun the process, and
- 39:34Speaker 1: we didn't know what that meant. We thought it was
- 39:36Speaker 1: a new kind of treatment until they sat us down
- 39:40Speaker 1: and explained to us what was going to happen. We
- 39:45Speaker 1: were allowed only five minutes each to see him. We
- 39:50Speaker 1: went into the hospital room and Nancy, I don't know
- 39:55Speaker 1: if you experienced this with your husband or not, but
- 39:58Speaker 1: you could be across a crowded room and you could
- 40:01Speaker 1: know by the look on your spouse's face if they're
- 40:05Speaker 1: panicked or in trouble or what they're trying to say.
- 40:11Speaker 1: And that was that look that I got. So I
- 40:13Speaker 1: approached the bed and he grabbed onto Liberty and I
- 40:19Speaker 1: and the nurse had to pry his fingers off one
- 40:22Speaker 1: by one, and of course that's the moment, will you
- 40:27Speaker 1: say all the beautiful things that you're supposed to say
- 40:34Speaker 1: to somebody that you love. And then they said that
- 40:39Speaker 1: we had to leave the hospital, and so I went
- 40:51Speaker 1: to the door and I looked back at him, and
- 40:53Speaker 1: you looked so scared and so panicked that I rushed
- 40:58Speaker 1: back in and I picked him up in my arms,
- 41:02Speaker 1: and I told him that I had to go and
- 41:06Speaker 1: I would be right outside the And then they escorted
- 41:10Speaker 1: us out of the hospital, m down down to the
- 41:15Speaker 1: lobby and there was a chapel. Liberty and I and
- 41:21Speaker 1: begged to go into the chapel just so we could
- 41:24Speaker 1: sit and just us for help from thought, for people
- 41:29Speaker 1: to just come to their And then they told us
- 41:33Speaker 1: that we had to leave the chapel, and they escorted
- 41:36Speaker 1: us out to the party blood and told us that
- 41:39Speaker 1: we had to get off the property. That was the
- 41:42Speaker 1: last time we ever saw him the life again. I
- 41:46Speaker 1: immediately got a private plane and flew down to Los
- 41:50Speaker 1: Angeles so I could confront Judge Daniel Murphy. I wanted
- 41:56Speaker 1: him to see me, and I wanted to tell him
- 42:00Speaker 1: that that was my husband of thirty four years, and
- 42:05Speaker 1: that when they picked him up for that's so cloded
- 42:07Speaker 1: abandoned medical evaluation. That that morning he was singing when
- 42:14Speaker 1: he was being shaped, and he was singing to Liberty's music,
- 42:19Speaker 1: and he was happy, and that he did not want
- 42:22Speaker 1: to go with her. He was fighting with the paramedics
- 42:25Speaker 1: and he said, please please, no, I don't want to go.
- 42:28Speaker 1: I want to see you and my wife and my daughter.
- 42:32Speaker 1: My daughter went into an acute asthma to heck and
- 42:36Speaker 1: the paramedics had to come from her. And it was
- 42:40Speaker 1: just a gaudiful scene to see Casey fight like that.
- 42:47Speaker 1: And then as they please let you go, and I
- 42:49Speaker 1: don't want to go, and he said no, no, no,
- 42:53Speaker 1: I don't want to go. They took him against his
- 42:57Speaker 1: will for this so called independent medical evaluations, and then
- 43:04Speaker 1: they devised another ruse to keep him for an overnight observations.
- 43:09Speaker 1: The doctor cleared him on June first. On June second,
- 43:15Speaker 1: we were called his personal private physician, Donald Sharman, and
- 43:20Speaker 1: I were called and we were told he was discharged.
- 43:28Speaker 1: We went to court and the judge said that he
- 43:30Speaker 1: couldn't return, and they they never brought him back. They
- 43:36Speaker 1: gave him enough drugs to kill an elephant, and he
- 43:40Speaker 1: still fought. Because this man wanted to live. He never complained,
- 43:48Speaker 1: he was never in any case. His only regret is
- 43:54Speaker 1: that he just had so much left to do. Jene Cason,
- 43:58Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing your story, and we
- 44:01Speaker 1: wait as justice unfolds in a court of law. Nancy
- 44:06Speaker 1: Grace crime story signing off goodbye friends,