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DHT Adventure Series: Climbing the Manitou Incline in Colorado Springs, Colorado · Do Hard Things™ with Siegfried Tiegs

• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of the Do Hard Things podcast.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: I'm your host JTG's, your certified high-performance coach and leadership trainer, and this is a special episode.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: I haven't done one of these in a while, but I'm at the Manitou Incline in Manitou Springs, colorado, and this is one of my favorite hard things to do.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: And what I want to do in this episode is take you with me on my hike this morning, tell you a little bit about it, the reason that I love it so much, and if you haven't done it, maybe it will inspire you to come out here and give it a shot yourself.
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: And so it's a beautiful Tuesday morning, august 8th 2023.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: The sun is out.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: It is absolutely breathtakingly beautiful.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: This morning I'm on a little road trip.
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: You want to talk about doing hard things.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: I got, I've taken a road trip with my daughters.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: We've got three, they're 15 this year and we came here to Colorado Springs to meet up with one of my daughters' friends.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: So I actually have four 15-year-olds with me, because she's been staying with us for the last few days in Airbnb and giving them a little tour of the city and, you know, letting my daughters spend time with their friend.
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: So it's been.
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: It's been great.
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: Yesterday we did the Pike's Peak, we did the Garden of the Gods, we ate some great food.
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: This morning I invited them to do the incline and they declined, and I'm not mad at them about it because I think it would.
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: Probably it would be.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: It's a.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: It's a.
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: It's not for the faint of heart.
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: So, and I want them to, I want to enjoy this and come back another time.
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: So we'll.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: We'll try that when they're a little bit in a little bit better shape, maybe just a little bit older, but so they're sleeping in.
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: This morning I'm out here and I thought you know what?
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: I haven't done one of these episodes in a while.
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: So let me take you with me.
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: I'm trying out this new app, so the audio probably sounds a little different.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: Apologize for that, but hopefully enjoy this episode of the Manitou Incline.
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: Alright, so let me give you some facts about the Manitou Incline.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: So this is this is considered an extreme difficulty level.
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: It has it's basically a bunch of railroad ties that go up the side of the mountain.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: You can see them from a pretty good distance away.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: It has a total of 2,744 steps and it's about 0.9 miles in length.
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: So basically it's 0.9 miles up of step climbing and then what most people do, and what I would recommend you do, is you take the bar trail coming back down, which is about another three miles, and so it's about a four mile round trip.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: You can go back down the stairs if you'd like, but it is much more difficult to do so and I would recommend taking the bar trail down.
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: So you can expect about almost a four mile round trip.
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: You're gaining about 2,020 feet of elevation.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: At the base you're at 6,530 feet and at the summit you end up at 8,550 feet.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: The average grade is 41 percent, steepest grade being 68 percent.
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: You're almost on your hands and knees at that point in time.
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: The average time it takes someone well seasoned incliners there's people that come out here all the time.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: Then you've got your Olympic athletes that come out here.
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: They can do it in under 30 minutes.
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: I think in my prime.
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: This is in my young 20s.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: This is back when I was running.
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: You know really fast 5ks, like 16 minute 5ks.
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: I did it in the low 30s.
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: The last time I did this it took me about an hour.
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: So I think the average person is probably going to be in that hour to maybe a little bit over range.
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: So it is definitely challenging.
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: Now there's some nuances to getting here to the incline.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: Probably just as equally hard to climb it is probably finding a parking spot, and so you, there's a reservation system that when I first came here in the early late 90s, early 2000s, there was no reservation system.
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: It was basically a parking lot up here, first come, first serve.
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: The trail was not in great shape, in fact it was kind of.
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: I think they wanted, they didn't want people to actually climb it.
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: They had signs that said keep out and there was no organization that was really maintaining.
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: It is actually becoming kind of a safety hazard because it was kind of eroding.
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: But since then there's an organization that has basically taken over, if you will, for safety concerns, and there's like a reservation system now and so if you go to ManitouSpringsorg you can search, like you know how to reserve the incline, but they have people that check you in now, so it's free, but you have to reserve in advance because there's so many people that come here Now it's like 70,000 people that visit this place and with that you need maintenance, you need parking.
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: Manitousprings is a really small, small town.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: So those are some of the challenges.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: So there's a reservation system and you can park up near here.
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: It costs like 15 bucks to park if you can find a spot, and I parked down oh, I forgot the name of the trailhead but they basically have a free shuttle.
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: So it cost me $7.50 and they have a shuttle that runs every 10 minutes to take you up to the trail and they drop you off.
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: And so basically the current capacity they're basically open in the morning from between six and ten.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: They take 65 people every 30 minutes.
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: From 10.30 to 1.30, about 45 people every 30 minutes and then from 2 to 6 pm about 25 people every 30 minutes.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: So when you reserve you can reserve more than one time slot and for me I just reserved the other day and I was able to get a morning slot, so it really wasn't that bad.
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: What else do we want to know?
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: The incline is yeah, it's basically open 6 am to 6 pm.
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: You're not supposed to bring any pets on the trail, so I think people still do, but you're not really supposed to.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: It's better to probably get here early in the morning because you can get pretty dog on hot and you're already breathing kind of heavy with the lack of oxygen.
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: So you want to get here early and, if you can, plus, it's great to watch the sunrise from here.
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: Also, you know, with the, colorado Springs is known for having some pretty decent thunderstorms and hail storms.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: In fact, the last time that I climbed this it was early afternoon.
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: Oftentimes you'll have a nice sunny morning, but then the clouds will roll over the mountains late morning, early afternoon, and you can get an isolated thunderstorm.
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: And, being an altitude, I mean Colorado is known for the number of lightning strikes and people struck by lightning, and there's some pretty significant hail that can come here.
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: So the weather can turn pretty quick and you don't want to be caught up there in that.
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: So just be cognizant of the weather.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: So what are some other facts about the incline?
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: So the 2,744 steps is not a walk in the park and hiking the incline is comparable to climbing up the Empire State Building.
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: It's also comparable to climbing the Eiffel Tower twice, the Washington Monument three times and the Statue of Liberty six times.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: So it's a beast of a climb.
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: Not going to lie, it's definitely a beast.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: So what else do you need to know?
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: You probably want to bring some sunscreen, because you're up at altitude and bring some water and probably something to eat, and that's really about it A good pair of shoes and be prepared to suffer a little bit because, like I said, the altitude will get you.
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: So that's pretty much the rundown of the incline.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to go ahead and get started.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: Probably the next couple segments.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: You're probably going to hear me breathing a little hard, but I'll try to pop in and give you an update of where we're at and time and steps, and take you with me down the bar trail.
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: Alright, I'm all checked in and there's a group of people down here.
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: I got my watch going, so we are now moving.
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so far, so good.
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: The railroad ties are in pretty good shape and there's a pretty good crowd of people here.
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: Man, I see some little kids up here.
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: I should have dragged my kids out here for this.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make them do it.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make them do it.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: They need to get out here and experience this.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: So, anyway, we are off.
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: I got the timer going.
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: We'll see how long it takes me to do this.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: Alright, so I'm 200 steps in.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: They have these placards that show the amount of steps, so you just kind of know where you're at.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: As you can tell, I am already out of breath and, to be fair, I'm personally in a lot of shape.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: For me personally, combine that with the altitude, you get to hear me breathe heavy.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: But we're making progress, one foot in front of the other.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: Alright, at five or six minutes down, I'm already at 500 steps.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: But we're slowing the pace down.
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: The first 500 are pretty I wouldn't say flat, but probably the flatest you're going to get on the trail and then the incline goes up significantly.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: So first 500 steps are the easiest, but 6 and a half in Over 500, good to go.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: Alright, I'm at 800 steps in.
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: We're almost at 10 minutes.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: Haven't stopped yet.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: But I'm slowing down the pace here before too long.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: We're taking breaks every few steps.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: That's how, once it gets really steep, it's difficult to maintain the pace.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: But I think this is where the incline really actually starts.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: So here we go, one foot in front of the other.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: Alright, I'm at 1200 steps in.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: It's been over 15 minutes and still haven't taken a break yet.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: Heart rate is up there.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely slowing down.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like one foot in front of the other, like step, step, and it's really starting to get steep now.
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go as long as I can without taking a break.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: People, this is where people start stopping a lot, but we're gonna keep going.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: One step in front of the other.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: Alright, I'm at 1400 steps.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: It's been 19 minutes 11 seconds.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: I haven't stopped taking a break yet, but my vision is gonna happen soon.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: Legs are starting to burn.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Getting that breathing heavy Heart wants to be out of the chest, but getting that burning sensation in your chest.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: This is where it hurts.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: This is where we start doing hard things.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: This is where the training starts.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: Hey, good morning.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: So one foot in front of the other.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: It's mind over matter.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Body wants to quit.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: The mind keeps you moving forward.
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going a little longer.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: I'll talk to you when I take my first break.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: Alright, at 22 minutes in, I took my first break, and I think the key is when you start taking breaks, do intervals, force yourself to not pick me too long.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: It's easy to sit and try to catch your breath.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: Give it a certain time 30 seconds, a minute, two minutes Then cut yourself off and move.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: After that, you gotta force yourself to keep moving.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: If not, I think it just hurts even worse.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: Slow and steady.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: Alright, we're at 1600 now.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: This is the part where you start calling your hands a little bit.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: It gets really steep.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: Some of the rubber ties are double and triple.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: There's some big steps up.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: I'm looking up and there's probably about 40 people, most of them standing catching their breath.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Alright, I'm at, I think, around 1700.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: I'm taking a break Looking at the view.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: It's definitely a beautiful morning.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Good, how are you doing Just hiking Alright here, long enough Time to keep moving?
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: Alright, we're 29 minutes, almost 30 minutes in.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Hard to believe the elites finished on this time.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: I still got about 1000 steps to go and I'm almost on my hands and knees at this point and I can't really talk, so I'm gonna shut up now.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: Alright, I'm at 2744 steps to go, still very vertical here.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: The bitch about this section is it's kind of a false flat Because you're 2000 steps in and you think you see the top, but then it kind of crests and then it goes up again for the last few hundred steps and it's a real mind fuck.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Pardon my French, as you can hear, I am out of breath.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: I'm still making progress.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I've taken four short stops so far, so making really good progress, I think the temperature this morning and I think it's happened.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: You along here with me, give me some motivation.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I did a month ago.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: It's midday, super hot, alright, we keep moving.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I'm at the false flat Just paying for overtime Because I can see that next rise, but at the top of that rise you're done Done, son.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Every time I do this, these types of things always get to that point where you question why and how you do it.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: But this is living and it makes you more grateful for everything else in your life.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna be grateful to get to the top.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be grateful for that next cold ball of water, the next snack, and humans were designed for this.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: We gotta push our limits.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: A mind, a body this is where it's at.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I feel more connected spiritually in states like this and I get such mental clarity.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I usually solve a problem or just have a great idea.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: It's just interesting.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Even this morning I had that resistance.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to stay in bed.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Don't have to do this.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: No one's watching.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Kids are watching.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: That's a motivator, but it's like every time, the resistance is always there for everyone.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: So I tell you what I'm so grateful they still have the ability, the health to be able to do this, because one day I won't and there's other people that would give anything to be able to do what I'm doing right now.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Alright, 2300.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: We're at 41, 57.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Making good time.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: An old guy like me middle aged oh, age is just a number.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I felt pretty damn good to be real 45.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty damn good.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: All things considered, I'm not a shaggy man right now, but it's nothing but a thing.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: We're going to fix that One step further.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: The shorts are cool.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Where'd you get them?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Kiel Crew, kiel Crew.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get those in my life.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a lot of cool designs.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Thank you, I know she was bad at this thing.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Alright, yeah, I like her.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Lacey, I'll probably forget, but the girls were a really cool pair of Look like cowhide running shorts made by Kiel Crew.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what that is, but they were cool.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: So this is a reminder to get those for you, cause you like this.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get it hilarious now Talking about cowhide running shorts.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: We're still one foot in front of the other, and this is where the last final push.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what step count I'm at, but the final ink line.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I also like to record we're 46 minutes in Gotta.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Keep going, minimum breaks, mind over matter.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: One foot in front of the other.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Let's go Alright.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: 2648 minutes in Almost there, 140 for you.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: That's the hardest part.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: We're almost there, alright.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: On the final push, maybe like 50 steps to go, and this is where you want to.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Your inclination is to stop so badly.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I'm literally one foot in front of the other.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe you can hear me stomping.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just burning in my chest, my legs are jello, the heat from the sun starting to bear down.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe the other breeze is nice and cool.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And we're almost there, almost there.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take you with me on the last few steps, so you're just going to have to listen to me.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Breathe hard, do hard things.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: When I get to these points, I always think about the other hard things that I've done.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: It gives me strength and courage.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I think about God and all the gifts he's given me and all the blessings he's with me.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I think about my family and kids and my wife.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I see the final plate.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sucking it up, Maybe like 20 steps to go.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: There's much people up here Morning.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Good job, I'm not going to stop.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm going to photo bomb you.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Alright, we did it.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Here's the top.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Holy cow, 53 minutes on the nose, that was hard, holy cow.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: We'll come back and catch my breath, alright.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So I caught my breath.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: It took me a little bit.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: It's about that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Uh, may, to the top in 53 minutes.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: There's probably about 20 people at the top and I'll take in photos.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And beautiful up there called Lacey Talked to her for a minute and it's cool.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I had this chipmunks, have no fear, they must get fed a lot, because I had one like run into my hand.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that, but yeah, I'm headed back down the bar trail.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So the bar trail goes all the way to the top of Pike's Peak and you can take the connector on the way down, which is about three miles, basically three miles of single tracks, switchbacks.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: It's a nice little trail and it seems like I don't know.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: It seems like longer than three miles every time I do it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a nice little jaunt.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Last time we were up here we hit a little thunderstorm so we made it down pretty quick.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: This morning I'm just gonna take it easy talk to you a little bit, catch my breath, enjoy the scenery, and yeah, I think so I guess what I want to talk now, just some thoughts that I'm having.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I know that the podcast I've only been doing the Monday morning episodes.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: It took a break from doing interviews and, to be quite honest, I think I just needed a mental break after transition from the military.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going through a big transition point and the challenge that I'm currently facing is the paradox of choice.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I'm truly blessed with all these amazing opportunities and I wanted to take the summer to travel, do some work, and I've been able to do just that.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: But I found myself feeling a bit unsettled and lost, and this is pretty common for people that are going through a big transition in their life, and also people that are you know I mean those that are all veterans can definitely empathize with losing a sense of yourself through this process of transition.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: And you know I'm a mindset coach and this is what I help people with all the time, and I'm finding myself in the growths of it and I think recently I've been doing a lot of work on myself, just taking some time to enjoy the calm and the slower pace of life, and that's been the greatest challenge I think of doing from a career of one thing after another, constantly go, go, go and just high up tempo and stress to literally nothing is a blessing but kind of a curse at the same time, because it just takes a while for your mind to wrap your head around it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So that's where I've been Into that paradox of choice I've been.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I just started a book called 10x is easier than 2x and this is something you know, that one of the things that teach helped.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: You know executive little high-performance workers, less than four, and I've got a lot of choices.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I think we need to experiment with things, we need to try things, but at some point you have to ball down what your two projects are and you've got to get super focused.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: And the story in 10x is easier than 2x.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I mean basically what the book is saying.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: The concept of 10x is that that's trying to 10 times the output versus 2x.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: So how are some people so incredibly productive to where they can?
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: You know grant cardonas of the book called 10x.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm having a little bit of a brain fog here.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I think the lack of oxygen.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: So bear with me as I'm trying to talk.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: You know most people are shooting for 2x or 3x, whereas many people are.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: The thing is you should be shooting for 10x, and 10x is actually easier than 2x, and what I mean by that is when you get singularly focused and you make your goals big, scary, audacious goals that feel that scare you, that you think are maybe even unachievable.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Those are the ones you should shoot for.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: What most people are doing with when they're 2xing or 3xing.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways to 2x or 3xing a project that you're working on, and that's the problem.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It's the you have all these different choices to do that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: When you 10x something, you have very few modalities to do that and in doing that process, it cuts out all of the other bullshit that are only going to get you mediocre results.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: So if you truly want to amplify things, you should shoot for 10x.