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Moving | Full K-drama Review / Ep. 57 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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  I'm Jessica and this is Tabaki Rambles, where a couple of
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  friends review Korean dramas and I'm back for another spooky
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  season episode. This is episode three of our
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  little Halloween special season and Rico's back.
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  Hey, Rico. Hey, what's up?
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  How you doing, Jess? I'm doing well.
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  How are you? I'm doing pretty well this.
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  This gap that we've had between the the two episodes is not very
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  big. It's actually, I know.
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  Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
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  Two weeks ago. Oh, true.
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  Yeah. Two weeks ago we recorded the
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  Ballerina episode, which is a movie on Netflix.
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  And what's funny is it's kind of making the rounds.
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  This is as I know. But that movie is making the
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  rounds a little bit on social media because, you know, the
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  villain dude. OK, so he posted like a carousel
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  of images, and the first images of him in the mask, in the BDSM
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  mask, people have been losing their shit.
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  They're like, wait, I know I wasn't prepared.
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  Like nobody told me, because obviously, like, that's spoilery
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  but. It's spoilery, and it's
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  triggering for some people as well, so you never know how
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  people approach that photo. Uh huh.
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  So And then I know. And he's shirtless, like the
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  whole bit. Like he he knows what to post on
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  his Instagram. Yeah, of course.
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  and and really enjoying the content that we put on the
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  Patreon feed. So without further ado, Rico,
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  Are you ready to review Moving the K Drama?
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  Moving. I am.
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  I am one thing, I will say. Is that, you know, this is a
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  theme of you're in your Halloween spooky season for the
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  show. Yeah.
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  I feel like this show does not fit that criteria at all.
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  So then what had happened was, I'll tell you so I saw the
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  aesthetic of it and I was like, oh, it's like really dark and
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  it's shot differently and it's not a typical looking cage drama
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  at all. Plus, I heard that it was gory.
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  I like violent. Right.
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  So I get that for sure. So that's when I was like, oh
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  perfect, we'll review moving and then a little bit later I was
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  like, this doesn't seem at. All scary spooky.
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  Like, no, Like thrillers pushing it.
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  Yeah, pushing it is thriller, but even then, even then it's
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  manageable. It's not like you're really
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  scared. Yeah, so if you're not a person.
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  If you're a person who does not like scary stuff, this is fine.
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  This is this is perfect. Not scary.
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  So no, no. But I will say the next episode
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  or the last episode in this little spooky season will
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  definitely be in the spooky Halloween wheelhouse.
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  Definitely more on brand this one.
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  Kind of like I was too late to change it and I actually really
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  wanted to watch the show anyway, so I was like, whatever, stick
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  with it. Yeah, yeah.
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  So that's how it ended up here in Spooky Season, even though
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  it's not really ghosts and zombies and whatever else.
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  Fools comb and zombies with no conscience.
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  A terrible Jay-Z line from Monster?
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  Oh man. That's because Nikki ate them up
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  on that track. No, no.
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  She definitely has the best verse.
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  Oh my gosh. But yeah, I've never heard such
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  a bad Jay-Z verse. Ever.
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  Wait, wait, wait. What are we talking about for
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  the people that don't know? So for people who don't know the
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  song Monster, this is the track from my Dark Twisted Fantasy
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  from Kanye's album and this is the song monster that is Kanye
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  Jay-Z. And Nicki Minaj with a little
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  bit of Man, I forgot his name. Oh, Rick Ross at the beginning.
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  So yeah, so each one has a verse.
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  Kanye starts it off. It's it's good.
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  There's some memorable lines. Jay-Z comes second and boy is it
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  awful. Like, it is terrible.
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  Like like he just starts naming like all these different like
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  monsters that you would see in Universal Pictures from like the
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  30s. And, like, it's just so
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  terrible. At one point, he goes, I know
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  what my biggest deal is, love. I don't get enough of it.
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  And I'm just like, this is terrible.
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  But thank God that Nikki comes third to save that monstrosity.
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  No pun intended. Yeah, Nikki's incredible.
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  She's lace, OK? So just context, Yeah, so sorry.
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  We move really, really fast. Like we just known each other so
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  long. We've done podcasting for so
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  long that we just, it'll be real quick.
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  So we have to slow it down. Sometimes we have to slow it
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  down, explain how we know something so well to each other.
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  Exactly. All right, Well, I'll go ahead
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  and read the MDL synopsis. My drama list.
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  It reads Kimbong Sook, Jang He Soo, and E Kung UN.
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  Seemingly typical high school students bear extraordinary
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  inherited powers. Bung Sook can fly, Hisu
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  possesses exceptional athleticism and rapid injury
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  recovery, and Kong Moon wields uncanny strength and speed.
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  As they conceal their gifts, their parents fight to shield
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  them from exploitation by others, navigating A delicate
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  balance between secrecy and protection.
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  If you didn't catch the name of it, I don't know if we said it,
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  but the name of the K drama is moving.
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  Yeah, we said it a little earlier, but yes, we.
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  Wanted to make sure it aired from August to September 2023.
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  This year was released weekly, a few episodes a week I believe,
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  and it is 20 episodes long. I know that's pretty long.
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  However, each episode is only like 40 minutes.
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  This is what network television used to be back in the day where
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  like. The West Wing is the best
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  example. There are 23 episodes a season.
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  They're all about 42 minutes long.
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  Oh, that's. Oh bless.
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  Bless. So, so that's exactly what
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  you're looking at. It's like you're looking at one
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  season of network television from back in the day.
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  Yeah. And it.
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  And I love it. I I really do.
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  Yeah, me too. Wasn't it great?
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  I love it. It was.
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  Each episode was like, so, yes. Yes.
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  There's an internal clock that I have in my head, not that I'm
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  keeping track, but like there's like an alarm that goes off if a
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  show that I'm watching that is an hour.
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  And I put that in quotations because of commercials and
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  stuff. But once it goes past a certain
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  time, I'm like the show's not, you know, resolving.
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  But that's because I'm so used to that 42 minute thing that
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  when a show goes over that and is like an hour, an hour 10 and
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  I'm just like oh this this just feels long, you know, so.
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  Very, very appreciative that moving.
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  Decided to do the 40 to 42 minute yeah episode thing.
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  I love it. It's good stuff.
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  It is adapted from the webtoon moving by Kung Fu AKA Kung Pool.
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  It I guess just depends on how you pronounce it.
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  There is no F sound in Korean, so there's that.
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  It's a nickname, however, so it's a what's it called?
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  Pen name he He also wrote the screenplay.
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  So he is the author of the web comic and the screenwriter.
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  He's written 8 movies and this is his first show.
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  I think the 8 movies are adaptations of his webtoon as
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  well. Oh, OK, different webtoons.
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  Nice. He is obviously a webtoon author
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  artist and he's regarded as a first generation webtoon artist.
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  Is it because, like webtoons are so new?
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  That's the only thing I can think of, You know, it has to do
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  with, I guess that when he kind of got in the game and then I
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  also feel like in K culture, they'd love to put things in
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  eras, right? So consider K pop with like
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  first Gen. second Gen. third Gen. and 4th Gen.
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  They're they just like delineating the eras like that.
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  Yeah, Fearless speak now, Red. Yeah.
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  Exactly. Exactly, exactly.
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  You get me? I totally get it.
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  So we just watched the Taylor Swift eras to our movie and we
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  reviewed it on Always the Critic podcast.
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  So that's where that's come. It's it's relevant.
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  Yeah. OK, So Moving was directed by
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  Parkin Jay. He's also directed Kingdom
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  Season 2, which is a zombie show on Netflix.
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  Really good. I think each season of it is
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  only 8-6 or eight episodes, and then there's two seasons total.
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  Freaking easy to binge that. It is such an amazing show.
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  I highly recommend you watch it. I don't.
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  I would love to recommend it to Eureka, but I know that you're
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  not a zombie person. It's just so excellent.
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  And we talked about it actually on our Sweet Home episode.
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  Yes, briefly I mentioned it because it's got all the things
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  that you kind of wanted out of Sweet Home.
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  And I was like, we should have watched Kingdom.
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  So he directed only season 2 of Kingdom and two movies and
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  that's it. He's pretty green.
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  Yeah, he is green. That's not really big resume, so
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  I mean same for the screenwriter, Kung Fu or Kung
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  Fu. The adults, the cast stacked
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  like in a word, this is a really high profile cast and some of
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  these faces you've seen before Rico, because conveniently
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  you've watched some of their previous work.
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  So we'll just go through them. We have Rio Sung Ryong plays
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  Jang Ju One and I have him here as the Hulk.
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  Yeah, the nickname he's Chicken Shop.
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  Yeah, he runs the chicken shop. Yeah.
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  And yeah, super strength Hulk type figure.
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  Yep. I totally agree with the cool.
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  So if you want to call him the Hulk later in the show, well,
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  that's fine. You know what I was comparing
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  the show to? Just so like, I in my head?
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  Yeah, yeah. I was comparing this kind of to
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  the X-Men. Oh really?
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  Yeah. A lot of people have been
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  likening the show to Heroes. Oh yeah, you know, I can see it.
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  I only saw one season of Heroes but like I saw clips on YouTube
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  of Heroes so save the cheerleaders.
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  But I have seen Just stop It. But I've seen every freaking
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  superhero movie you can think of.
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  That's true. Plus those shitty Disney Plus
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  shows. So except for one Division I
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  love one division. I can't shed on one division
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  that. Much.
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  No, no. One division's great.
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  No, no, no. It's.
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  And I love Loki. I haven't started season 2 yet.
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  What I saw we saw the first two episodes of season 2.
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  Anyway, Long story short, it's superheroes.
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  Yeah, it's superheroes. So yeah, so Sung Ryong, you
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  might have seen him in the 36 movies that he's done, including
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  Miracle and Cell number 7, Masquerade from 2012 with IB
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  Young UN and all About My Wife, War of the Arrows, the list goes
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  on. I think that was his best film
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  era was 2011 through 2013. That was like the best time to
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  me. And then he's done 11 TV shows,
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  including Kingdom, using both seasons of Kingdom.
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  So that's where he met the director and he was also in
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  personal taste in 2010 which is this really weird show with even
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  though like. So what's the plot of personal
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  taste? So there's this woman living,
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  and it's the female lead from Crash landing on you, Sonia Jin.
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  Got it. She is living in a traditional
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  Korean house and an architect, Lee Min Ho wants to, I think
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  either like survey the house or something like that, or use the
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  house as inspiration for a a new project, and I can't remember
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  which one it is. But he wants into the house.
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  She lets nobody into the house, but she's looking for a
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  roommate. So he decides to apply to become
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  her roommate and masquerade as a gay man to do it.
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  So she she gets this gay roommate she thinks is like
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  safe. And obviously he's not gay.
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  It's this whole thing. It's wild.
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  So anyway, Ryu Song Ryong was in personal taste in 2010.
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  I am beyond scared to revisit some of those older shows that I
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  watched. And see if it holds up.
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  I know it doesn't hold up, but anyway.
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  We also have Han Yoju who plays IMI Hyon.
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  She is our leading lady. I call her the sniper slash
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  tonkatsu. Mom, do you have Do you have
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  another nickname for her at all? Not really.
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  Only because like that type of character I can't really eyeball
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  in in like maybe Deadshot. A female Deadshot would be the
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  only thing that I can think of. OK.
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  That would be the only thing. And that's a.
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  Yeah, that's a comic book character.
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  So that's what I'm thinking in my head, because like, these are
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  kind of comic book characters. They're facsimiles.
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  Yeah, they're facsimiles. So like if if I were to put like
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  a, you know, something similar in this, I would probably go
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  with a female Deadshot. Yeah, I so I so you've seen her
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  because she was in W2 Worlds Apart.
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  Yeah, yo, that show. So we reviewed that for the
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  podcast. Rico was there.
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  He remembers it all too well. And I really appreciate that
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  show, even though it's not 100. Like, it's got its flaws, it's
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  got its issues, there's problems, but it still holds a
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  very special place in my heart. She's been in so many things and
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  they're all excellent. She chooses her projects really,
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  really well. Even her movies.
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  I love her movies. I've seen her in always from
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  2011 with Suji Sub. That one was so sad.
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  It's a melodrama. I don't want to give anything
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  away. I don't want to give anything
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  away, but watch that one. You will need tissues masquerade
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  as well, so you see kind of things start to intertwine.
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  Because Hulk Sung Reung was also in Masquerade with her.
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  She was in love 911 Beauty inside which they they turned
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  that into K drama soon after that because it was so
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  successful. She was in Love Lies, which I
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  have a Patreon review up for that movie, The pirates sequel,
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  The Last Royal Treasure and then recently in 20th Century Girl
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  which broke everyone's hearts because they just didn't see it
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  coming like that ending it was heartbreaking.
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  Also she was in Happiness, which is another zombie show.
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  Excellent show. Love it.
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  What do you think of her in this show?
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  So in the show, out of the, out of the adults, I I liked her.
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  It wasn't as captivating, I would say, as some of the other
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  characters, right? Like there was, there were two
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  characters out of the adults that I was really drawn to.
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  We've already spoken about one. Jean.
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  Jean Juan is the name of the character Hulk.
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  Really enjoy. We still haven't mentioned the
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  next one, but like her character was fine.
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  There was a lot of times where I kind of felt like she she was
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  more just kind of in a very what's the word that I'm looking
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  for? Just she was kind of in the back
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  seat a lot and there was a lot of times where you know that
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  she's important and there's, you know, there's an importance to
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  her character. But we we don't see it too
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  often, We don't get a lot of it. So she kind of falls in the
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  background Sometimes I see that. I see that it's not a flashy
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  role. Not flashy at all and but I like
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  her, her character. I think there's something really
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  cool and mysterious about her and super guarded as well.
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  That's just how the character was was written.
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  We have her Co star Choyan Song who plays Kim Doshik.
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  I just have him here as Superman.
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  I know. I mean, pretty much, yeah bro.
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  So two things. One is Hanihodu people.
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  Very surprised to see her as a mother because we've seen her
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  young and you know, childless in pretty much every one of her
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  roles so far. So this is a had a shift change
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  in her career. Yeah, and not just like a kid
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  Oman Gansong. Like Oman Gansong.
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  Just like a big ass a grown. Yeah, Like, yeah, that.
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  That's the big thing about it. Like, it kind of happened to me
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  recently when I watched this new movie.
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  Then she came to me. It's with Peter Dinklage, Anne
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  Hathaway. Anne Hathaway is a mother to a.
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  To a child who's about to graduate high school, and I was
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  like, damn, she's already there. I was like, damn, dude, like, it
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  doesn't feel like that. Like, she just turned 40.
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  But it still doesn't feel that way, you know?
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  Yeah, Hani Hadju is in her 30s. She's in her 30s and she's like,
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  you know, a 1617 year old, whatever the age of.
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  That of that boy. Yeah.
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  So yeah. Like, yeah, she does not look
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  like she should be. The mother.
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  Of And if you see her on the press tour and in some of the
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  photo shoots that they've done for this show, if she does not,
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  look, they aged her up to play this game.
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  They had to age her up. And even like that, Like, it's
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  still kind of like, hmm, she's the mom, huh.
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  Interesting. So it's a little strange for
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  people. A little jarring.
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  I for 1:00 AM, OK with it. I think that she can.
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  She's a grown woman. She knows how to fucking pick
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  her projects. She's very picky.
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  And it's worth like, this show is proof of that because I think
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  once you saw some stills of her, you were probably a little
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  hesitant to watch her in something like this.
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  And then once you see the finished product, you're like,
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  Oh my God, it was worth it to, like, age her up.
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  Yes, yes, yes, yes. For Toy and Sung, though, this
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  is a big deal that he's in this drama because he hasn't been
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  starring in a drama. Since 2014, the last time you
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  saw him was in 2016 in a special guest appearance in the show
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  called Dear My Friends, and he basically just goes off the grid
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  when he's not working. Oh, so he just disappears?
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  He just does like a big show. He gets paid handsomely and then
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  he just dips. Got it.
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  Which I appreciate that lifestyle a lot and.
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  I think it's hard for people who are just starting out watching K
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  dramas because they don't know who he is, especially if you
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  haven't gone back to like like see some of the older work.
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  Right, because I I mean, I grew up watching him in the K dramas
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  that I started out watching. I start.
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  I came in like early 2000 tens and he, that was his era.
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  Like that he was popping off. In 2010, like they're twenty
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  10s. Gotcha.
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  Oh my God. So he was in that winter the
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  wind blows with some Hekio, the female lead from descendants of
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  the sun. Oh, OK.
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  She was a blind heiress and he was deceiving her so that he
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  could get her her inheritance. It was fucking nuts.
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  I mean these plots, right? The plot lines are.
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  Fantastic plots are plotting. So he was in that he looks so
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  good. It's OK.
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  This is Love or it's OK That's Love from 2014, one of my
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  favorite K dramas of all time and he's in that.
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  He stars in that. I again, if you're if you see
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  him and you're like wow, I want to see more of him, there's
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  more. Go back in the catalogue and and
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  dig deep, right? Like watch these dramas because
• 22:43
  they're good memories of Bali. AKA something happened in Bali.
• 22:48
  I just have to say, he's not here to defend himself.
• 22:50
  But Miguel knows what he did. He told me to.
• 22:54
  What's up? This show, something happened in
• 22:58
  Bali is from 2004. It's an older drama, almost 20
• 23:03
  years old, actually. And Miguel was like, you got to
• 23:07
  watch this drama. It's so great, blah, blah, blah.
• 23:10
  And I was like, oh, OK, cool. So I took his advice and I
• 23:14
  watched the show. I swear to you, I still think
• 23:19
  about the night, the nightmares that I had watching this show
• 23:23
  and the ending that it had. It is pure trauma.
• 23:28
  There is, I mean, if you think that like endings from the red
• 23:32
  sleeve and 2521 and, I don't know youth of May are traumatic,
• 23:40
  listen what something happened to Bali.
• 23:44
  Is Trump's all of that? It was.
• 23:47
  I hated it. It was terrible to I hated the
• 23:50
  show. I was livid when I because I
• 23:54
  came back. I think we went out for like
• 23:55
  pizza or something in Hunter's Creek here in Orlando and I walk
• 24:01
  in and I was like, Miguel, I think you owe me an apology
• 24:05
  because it was so bad. So I know a lot of people like
• 24:11
  that show. But anyway, Long story short,
• 24:14
  Cho and sung icon. Icon and he's here in this, in
• 24:18
  this fucking show. It's amazing.
• 24:20
  Kim Sung Kyun, another icon, he plays Jaiman.
• 24:23
  He is the character with an intellectual disability and he
• 24:26
  has super strength and he's super fast as well.
• 24:29
  Yeah, he can. He can also like, leap.
• 24:32
  Yeah, like super far. Kind of like, it's almost like
• 24:36
  Hulk, yeah, Where he can, like, jump really far.
• 24:41
  Or when Superman and Man of Steel is like starting to try to
• 24:44
  fly, like, it's like these giant ass hops.
• 24:48
  It's basically that. He has been in everything you
• 24:51
  can think of. 34 movies including Secretly Greatly,
• 24:56
  Hawaii and Monster Boy, The Suspect.
• 24:58
  All of these with All Star cast. He's been in 14 TV shows,
• 25:02
  including DP, which we covered earlier in our spooky season.
• 25:07
  Divorce attorney Shin We KIRO Class One Grid Moon Lovers
• 25:10
  Skylar How Rio which we've covered as well.
• 25:13
  Not in the spooky season at the end of season four that was the
• 25:16
  finale episode Moon Lovers. So this guy really well known
• 25:21
  household name. Then we have Kimi Wan as Che
• 25:25
  Yihuan. He is the PE slash homeroom
• 25:27
  teacher, yes. Well, another icon.
• 25:33
  Another icon. He's been in 36 movies.
• 25:35
  Including Unlock The Beauty Inside, which is the same movie
• 25:38
  that Han Yoju was in Cart. No Tears for the Dead, The Man
• 25:43
  From Nowhere, which I just reviewed for the Patreon fee
• 25:46
  because I did my annual rewatch of that movie.
• 25:49
  Fucking love this man. These are great names that I'm
• 25:52
  throwing out here. And then we have our kids as
• 25:55
  well. Thankfully, there's not that
• 25:58
  many of them because I'm already feeling like we're running long
• 26:02
  in the tooth, but we have Koyun Jung.
• 26:05
  As he sue, she is. I call her home girl in my
• 26:09
  notes. She's the PE major monster baby.
• 26:11
  I don't know what you want to call her.
• 26:13
  Yeah, I was getting just AX23 or Wolverine Vibes, so.
• 26:20
  You're getting Wolverine vibes just because of the the
• 26:23
  regenerative power of being able to heal like that, that that's
• 26:28
  the the very classic person who can heal in that way is
• 26:33
  Wolverine and in turn the daughter X-23.
• 26:37
  So that's what I was getting those vibes.
• 26:39
  I see. I like it.
• 26:42
  OK, so X-23 is Koyun Jung. You might have seen her in
• 26:50
  Alchemy of Souls, which there's a 2 parter 2 part episode on the
• 26:55
  feed. And then you might have seen her
• 26:56
  in law school, school, nurse files.
• 26:58
  He is psychrometric Rico. You've seen her in Sweet Home?
• 27:01
  Yes, I did. I did.
• 27:03
  I was like, wait a minute. Is that?
• 27:05
  Wait a second from Sweet Home and I was.
• 27:08
  Right. Yes, it was.
• 27:10
  She's here as a student. I think she's like 27 or 28 in
• 27:15
  real life. I mean, she's like a high school
• 27:17
  student. It's it's it's all the dilemmas
• 27:19
  we always face with all these high school movies where they're
• 27:22
  having 27 year olds play. High school students like we've
• 27:26
  seen it all the time. I know we've seen worse.
• 27:28
  Stalker Channing. Stalker Channing.
• 27:30
  Stalker Channing. Yeah, yeah, from Greece.
• 27:33
  For those who one of my one of my favorite things ever is
• 27:42
  Family Guy. No, no, not Family Guy.
• 27:44
  American Dad, where the alien Roger is like, oh, he knew or he
• 27:52
  knew Stocker Channing in her 40s.
• 27:55
  Oh no, no, I'm sorry. He knew Stocker Channing in the
• 27:58
  40s. She was 50.
• 28:03
  Just like it's so messed up. It's a running gag with the.
• 28:07
  Running gag and pop culture, but Grease especially cast, because
• 28:12
  you look at that cast like there are people who are in high
• 28:15
  school in that movie. That's a man.
• 28:18
  That is a man who's been divorced.
• 28:20
  Like, like, ridiculous divorced with kids.
• 28:23
  Like get out of here with that high school student.
• 28:27
  It is hilarious. T birds my ass.
• 28:32
  Anyway, we also have. He Dong Ha who plays Kimbong
• 28:36
  Sook. He is my fly boy.
• 28:38
  I have him as my little peanut. I don't know if you had a
• 28:41
  nickname for him. I didn't, but he yellow.
• 28:45
  Yellow is his color, yellow is his color.
• 28:49
  I just found him. I felt like he was Comic Relief
• 28:54
  to me. Kind of.
• 28:55
  Or just a light levity to like darker scenarios?
• 29:00
  Yes, yes. He was such a breath of fresh
• 29:03
  air. He was needed to bring a little
• 29:05
  bit of comedy. Yeah, like, like you said to the
• 29:09
  show. Speaking of comedy, I watched on
• 29:13
  TikTok because TikTok knows, like, what I'm doing, what I'm
• 29:17
  watching. It just knows, so of course they
• 29:19
  do. It brought me this video of him
• 29:22
  auditioning to debut as a singer on a survival show called the
• 29:25
  Unit Idol Rebooting Project. And he was adorable.
• 29:34
  Adorable. All of the judges who are a
• 29:37
  list. You know, K Pop celebs were just
• 29:42
  pushing him through because he was so endearing.
• 29:44
  Even though he didn't have the chops, he didn't have the
• 29:47
  skills. He was going one-on-one.
• 29:49
  Like Rain gave him like a little tutorial on how to dance like he
• 29:52
  was making him do that. Like body roll.
• 29:55
  Yeah, the body roll that like. But the kid had no rhythm.
• 30:00
  No brother couldn't do the body roll but a one-on-one thing with
• 30:04
  rain is a huge or I'm not saying it right rain.
• 30:07
  So he rain couldn't even do it with a straight face because he
• 30:13
  was so cute and smiley with his little dimples.
• 30:16
  That Rain just kept laughing. My goodness.
• 30:20
  It was adorable, so I encourage you guys to sneak out this
• 30:24
  little video of him. Apparently Yi Jong Ha was a
• 30:27
  trainee under JYP, which makes a lot of sense.
• 30:31
  However, he left the company because he lacked confidence and
• 30:34
  could not keep up with other trainees as he felt they were
• 30:36
  better than him. Seeing what I saw on TikTok,
• 30:39
  that little clip, I yeah, I don't even know how he got into
• 30:42
  JYP. You don't even know how he got
• 30:45
  in. I don't even know how he got in
• 30:47
  so. He was also in nevertheless from
• 30:50
  2021. That's kind of a curse word of a
• 30:52
  show. No, not a lot of people like
• 30:55
  that one. I can't believe I watched him
• 30:57
  myself. He was on Run on And rookie
• 31:00
  historian Gujario, I got to be real honest with you, I don't
• 31:07
  remember this man in these shows, this little boy at all.
• 31:10
  So if you if you saw him in these shows, I would love to
• 31:15
  see. Your hear your thoughts on him
• 31:17
  from those small bit parts in those shows.
• 31:20
  And lastly we have Kim do Hyun Kim to Hoon who plays E Kong
• 31:26
  Hoon and he's like the glasses kid like the class prez.
• 31:29
  Yes, OK Who in the very first episode is collecting
• 31:33
  everybody's cell phones? Yeah, yes, exactly.
• 31:36
  Exactly. That kid hall monitor.
• 31:39
  Hall monitor. So he's in the Escape of the
• 31:42
  Seven. From 2023, I think that's coming
• 31:44
  out a little later this year, The LA Cafe and today's Web Two.
• 31:49
  Again, these are largely untested younger actors paired
• 31:53
  up with big names in the K the K cinema and K drama.
• 31:59
  You can you can almost say it would be kind of a passing of
• 32:05
  the baton type of scenario. Maybe, you know, working so
• 32:10
  closely with these generational actors and actresses, you know,
• 32:16
  trying to give the new generation kind of, you know, a
• 32:19
  good stepping stone. I mean, you can kind of liken it
• 32:24
  since I'm on the X-Men train days, Future Past, where you
• 32:29
  have the old cast and the new cast, you know, kind of sharing
• 32:32
  screen time. So something similar.
• 32:35
  Yeah, absolutely. So we have finally gone through
• 32:37
  this whole cast and we're here at the end of that.
• 32:43
  Rico, what did you think of moving?
• 32:47
  So I'll be honest, I think this is a really good show.
• 32:51
  Oh, my God. The way you've gone the first
• 32:57
  episode, when the first character that we're introduced
• 33:01
  to is what's it called? Kim Bong Sook, like when that's
• 33:07
  the first character, I was kind of like interesting that this is
• 33:11
  the character. So I thought it would be more of
• 33:14
  a, you know, like humorous, good-natured type of show just
• 33:19
  by him being like the first character.
• 33:22
  What really sold me on the show was when we start getting the
• 33:26
  more interactions with Jung Kyu Soo that that's Koyu Jung's
• 33:34
  character and also Rio Song Ryong's character of Jang Wu,
• 33:40
  Jang Ju Wong So Hulk and X-23, you know, father daughter.
• 33:47
  That was the one that sold me the most.
• 33:49
  Also, what also sold me was the character Frank.
• 33:54
  Oh, OK. Because like being a cleaner and
• 33:59
  coming out and basically taking out like EX Super people like
• 34:05
  that was like intriguing like first that's.
• 34:07
  Very Incredibles of him, exactly.
• 34:09
  Just like The Incredibles, yeah. What was the name of that red
• 34:12
  haired character? It's a syndrome.
• 34:14
  Syndrome. Yeah, he's basically syndrome.
• 34:17
  He's except with Powers, right? Exactly.
• 34:20
  He's not faking it like Syndrome.
• 34:23
  But yeah, those characters like, really captured my attention
• 34:27
  early on, which helped carry the show.
• 34:32
  There's a couple episodes that really stand out for me that I
• 34:36
  really enjoy and we'll get into them a little bit later.
• 34:39
  But for the most part, I I enjoyed the action.
• 34:43
  I enjoyed the very the very Hans Zimmer Slash Ludwig Gorensen
• 34:50
  score. Because Oh my God, yes, there's
• 34:52
  a moment where it sounds like it's like bom bom, so it sounds
• 34:56
  like Hans Zimmer. It sounds a little bit like the
• 34:59
  score from Dark Phoenix. Yes, Dark Venix, which is Ron
• 35:03
  Zimmer. But it also sounds a little bit
• 35:06
  like the like the score from Tenet, from Ludwig, where it's
• 35:12
  like and I'm just. Like, that's a very bad
• 35:17
  interpretation. Yes, it is.
• 35:19
  But or imitation. Yeah, it's a very bad imitation.
• 35:22
  Go listen to the real one. But yeah, you can tell it's like
• 35:25
  heavily inspired by, like, Zimmer and Ludwig Gorenson.
• 35:30
  I can even see a little bit of the score in Loki.
• 35:33
  The show, yes, right. Yes, for sure.
• 35:37
  The cinematography of it, I think it looks beautiful, I
• 35:40
  think. And it's coherence, thank God.
• 35:43
  So compared to last week's episode of Ballerina, right?
• 35:49
  If it was last week, maybe. Yeah, it was.
• 35:51
  It was. So when you come here to last
• 35:53
  week's episode of ballerina, which like they're cutting and
• 35:56
  editing style kind of leaves you confused, This is very clear on
• 36:01
  how they style the action, how they choreograph everything.
• 36:05
  You know, where characters are in relation to one another, how
• 36:10
  tall someone is versus someone else.
• 36:13
  The way the camera positions it, I thank you also.
• 36:18
  It looks great. You know, there's one or two
• 36:22
  moments where the CGI is, you know, a little shaky, but I'm
• 36:26
  not going to fault it. It's just like one or two
• 36:27
  moments and that's it. I.
• 36:30
  Think that's huge coming from you, I know that is.
• 36:32
  I think the acting is very well for each character's purpose.
• 36:37
  Because, you know, you have the heartwarming with Kim Bunsuk.
• 36:42
  You have like the intrigue from, you know, Hulkinex 23.
• 36:47
  You also have like Frank in the entire like, what is what's
• 36:52
  behind? What's that?
• 36:53
  What's behind him, You know, who's in charge of him doing
• 36:57
  everything that he's doing. He's chasing after these
• 37:00
  characters. You feel sympathy.
• 37:03
  Sympathy for a Lee JA man you know or E JA man.
• 37:08
  Is that how you pronounce it? I.
• 37:09
  Oh, EJ, man. Yeah, Kim Sung Kyun's character.
• 37:12
  Yeah, you feel Hulk too, Hulk too.
• 37:15
  And so you feel sympathy for the characters.
• 37:18
  You start to care for them with all the machinations that are
• 37:22
  happening behind the scenes of trying to get after these adult
• 37:27
  super people who in turn the kids are being affected as well.
• 37:32
  So overall, really like the show.
• 37:36
  I I don't really have many negatives really to say about
• 37:40
  it. I'm so glad.
• 37:43
  I am thrilled because you know, like and you, the audience know
• 37:48
  if you've been keeping track. Like, I feel like I've struck
• 37:51
  out so many times suggesting K dramas to you, and we'll watch
• 37:54
  them together and review them on the podcast and you're just
• 37:57
  like, yeah, it was fine, or I didn't like it or whatever, and
• 38:00
  nothing has beat signal for you. But I knew as soon as I had
• 38:07
  heard some rumblings that this was going to be a good one, that
• 38:10
  people were really enjoying this.
• 38:12
  And then I was like, I think, I think we should watch this.
• 38:16
  And then it came out that these people were superheroes.
• 38:21
  I was like, oh, could not be more perfect for Rico to watch
• 38:27
  this movie, this movie, this show.
• 38:30
  Because this is your wheelhouse. Like you're an MCU person.
• 38:34
  You're very invested in sort of this, this genre.
• 38:38
  And what's a better way to like it would be it's K drama and
• 38:43
  superheroes. It's like two of our favorite
• 38:46
  things, right? Yeah, in one child, yeah.
• 38:49
  And I really enjoyed it. I thought it was very well done.
• 38:54
  You know what? What the big thing is because
• 38:56
  sometimes when if you try to do something with superheroes,
• 39:00
  you're so reliant on the CGI, you know you're trying to do
• 39:04
  something, you know, fantastical that sometimes story gets
• 39:08
  ignored and here story was. Not ignored?
• 39:11
  Yes, that's what's keeping you invested in the show, is the
• 39:15
  story, yeah. It's I thought this was a
• 39:18
  character study. Yeah, really, really good job of
• 39:22
  looking at each character, their motivations, how they got to the
• 39:26
  point that we're seeing them now.
• 39:28
  So I so we'll talk about that more, but yeah, I think it is
• 39:34
  very well done. It's a Tour de force.
• 39:36
  I'm hearing rumblings of people saying it's the best cage drama
• 39:39
  of 2023. I honestly think it might be.
• 39:44
  I think it's up there. I think it's in the
• 39:45
  conversation. And I hope that when award
• 39:48
  season comes around next year that it gets nominated.
• 39:51
  It's already being, you know, thrown around.
• 39:54
  In certain circles, it's winning some awards.
• 39:56
  I think Ryu song Ryon, which is Hulk number one, he won a best
• 40:02
  actor thing recently. I I'm just really thrilled that
• 40:07
  people have have loved it and are are just rooting for it.
• 40:11
  Moving became Disney's most watched Korean drama ever in
• 40:15
  just a week, seven days. Nice.
• 40:18
  That's really good. It's really great and.
• 40:21
  I think it would be even more popular than it is had it been
• 40:25
  on another streaming platform, let's say Netflix.
• 40:30
  Yeah, I can. Understand.
• 40:31
  Because it was, yeah. I think it would have been
• 40:34
  another squid game. Oh, OK.
• 40:37
  So you think it would have even been that popular?
• 40:40
  100% in my mind it would have done squid game numbers and.
• 40:46
  Because it's on Disney Plus, which is not as well established
• 40:49
  of a streaming platform around the globe as Netflix is, doesn't
• 40:55
  have as much cloud, doesn't have as much subscribers.
• 40:58
  And historically the show, the K dramas that have come out on
• 41:01
  Disney Plus have done OK, but they really haven't had this
• 41:06
  like staying power that you know Netflix once do right.
• 41:10
  And I know that in some countries it was split off into
• 41:15
  a different streaming service, so like here I saw it on Hulu,
• 41:20
  correct? So.
• 41:21
  Which is owned by Disney, right? Owned by Disney, but other
• 41:24
  countries it was Disney Plus that had it on their service and
• 41:28
  not Hulu. So just that divide also could
• 41:32
  affect the way a show can gain popularity.
• 41:35
  Exactly. And over here, not everyone has
• 41:37
  Hulu. I think more people might have
• 41:39
  Disney Plus than they do Hulu here in the state.
• 41:42
  I could be wrong, but. It feels that way, right?
• 41:44
  It could be close. True, but overseas?
• 41:49
  I really don't see Disney's trying to become like Netflix
• 41:53
  overseas, especially with investing in these K dramas.
• 41:56
  And over time, there's been a bunch.
• 41:58
  Snowdrop was one that we reviewed.
• 42:00
  Miguel was on that one. Soundtrack number One Big Mouth
• 42:03
  kiss Six cents connect with Jong Han Rookie Cops Vigilante, which
• 42:07
  is coming up with Namju Hilk, Who's in the milk serving in the
• 42:10
  military right now. So that's a huge deal because
• 42:13
  he's not even around to promote that, but they're going to
• 42:15
  release it later this year. The worst of evil.
• 42:19
  This was huge because that one brought together 2 huge stars.
• 42:24
  One of them actually was in squid game.
• 42:27
  That's Oh my God, his name is oh I forget.
• 42:33
  But anyway, two huge stars and it's an action, Action K drama.
• 42:39
  And then we have Revenge of Others.
• 42:40
  Big bet. Lots of Disney Plus shows now
• 42:44
  moving. I think surpasses them all.
• 42:48
  OK that's awesome. Surpassing them all, I haven't
• 42:51
  really got a chance to gone go through the different K dramas
• 42:55
  that are on there so but if you're saying that it's
• 42:59
  surpassed them. So good.
• 43:01
  Like well and I wait. I don't even think I gave my
• 43:04
  thoughts on the actual show moving, but I love it.
• 43:08
  I thought it was fantastic. I don't really have a bad thing
• 43:10
  to say about it either. And yeah, so those are my
• 43:16
  general thoughts and the other shows I have watched Snowdrop as
• 43:22
  you don't, as your head drops right now.
• 43:25
  Because I don't want to get into like, why that show sucks, but
• 43:28
  it just does. You can listen back to the
• 43:30
  episode on Snowdrop in the in your podcast feed.
• 43:33
  But Long story short, moving is sort of a crossover drama to me.
• 43:38
  It has mass appeal. It had the budget.
• 43:41
  It had the cast look at the cast that they enticed to be in the
• 43:44
  show. The script was amazing,
• 43:47
  airtight. It really was the best of both
• 43:52
  worlds. Like you had that 40 minute
• 43:54
  episode, 20 episode length of the show, top cast.
• 44:01
  I mean, there's a lot. It's has so much going for it.
• 44:04
  It's perfect. What more can you want?
• 44:06
  Yeah. So fun fact, baby boy Ichanga
• 44:13
  our bong sook gained roughly 66 pounds to play.
• 44:17
  Bong sook. How?
• 44:19
  Christian Bale of him. Bro, stop it with the Christian
• 44:25
  Bale because I feel like every other day on Facebook I get
• 44:30
  those stupid ass posts of people.
• 44:32
  Make of like, him in every single movie where he's had,
• 44:36
  like, a drastic physical change. Yeah, I know what you.
• 44:39
  It's too much. It's too much.
• 44:43
  But yeah, he goes all out with his roles.
• 44:46
  Yeah, anyway, Christian Bale was Batman, this man said.
• 44:52
  I was really happy to be able to eat as we all are.
• 44:57
  And I was like, that makes it seem like he's not eating like
• 45:02
  usually. To being pretty slim.
• 45:05
  He's usually pretty slim, and he said he was disheartened when
• 45:09
  his friends didn't recognize him in the show.
• 45:13
  Because he was little chunkers. He was a chunker.
• 45:16
  Oh. Not even that much.
• 45:17
  Like, he wasn't even right. It wasn't that much.
• 45:19
  I mean, he definitely was a, you know, a little bigger, but.
• 45:23
  Which is also different from K Drums.
• 45:26
  You have this leading kid who, well, he's not a kid, He's in
• 45:29
  his 20s, but usually. You have this leading guy.
• 45:33
  Who is not? He doesn't look like the typical
• 45:36
  cage on Malid. No, he doesn't.
• 45:38
  He, he definitely breaks that mold where it's like very thin
• 45:43
  and athletic, lean. You know, here he is, not those
• 45:50
  things. No.
• 45:51
  And but I love that. I think they do a really good
• 45:55
  job of using him as a character And you know how they use him as
• 45:59
  a character and how his mom babies him and feeds them all
• 46:03
  this food, you know, just to keep them down on the ground.
• 46:07
  On the ground. OK, so I think we would like to
• 46:13
  get into spoilers at this point, but I'm excited to ask you,
• 46:16
  Rico, what would you give the show out of five SOLDIER
• 46:18
  bottles? So out of five soldier bottles,
• 46:22
  I think I'm going to settle on a four.
• 46:26
  What? Maybe I don't want to go 4.5
• 46:29
  like 4.25 out of five. I guess we have to start with
• 46:34
  the issues that brought your rating down because mine's A5
• 46:37
  out of five, bruh. Yeah, I don't.
• 46:40
  So I I wouldn't say it's perfect, but like, that's a
• 46:45
  really high score. You know, you know, maybe I'll
• 46:48
  give it a four, I'll get a four and a half and I'll it.
• 46:51
  It has to do with the ending. OK.
• 46:53
  Oh yeah, we we should definitely get into.
• 46:55
  Well, we'll talk about the ending, don't worry.
• 46:57
  Details here. OK, so that's it this is.
• 47:02
  Concludes the non spoiler section.
• 47:03
  We're going to go right into spoilers right after this.
• 47:13
  You want to come in? All right, we're on the other
• 47:15
  side of spoilers, so anything goes.
• 47:18
  Rico, I don't know if you want to start with your issues with
• 47:21
  the show, whatever those are or if you want to kind of go like
• 47:24
  character by character or talk about your favorite episodes.
• 47:29
  What do you want to do? Let's.
• 47:32
  OK, so let's. Because I'd rather end on a high
• 47:34
  note than end on a low note. So let's start with like issues
• 47:38
  and they're very small issues. It's not like giant things.
• 47:43
  I think that the kids are good. I I do wish that it was a little
• 47:51
  more centered around who I'm calling X-23.
• 47:57
  Like, yeah, so that is like the storyline that I'm a little more
• 48:03
  invested in because there's more mystery behind it to start off
• 48:07
  with versus having someone who is just.
• 48:11
  But you mean her story or her dad's story?
• 48:15
  You mean her story? The two of them, The two of
• 48:17
  them. I I would say the two of them,
• 48:19
  because I think that's where you get the most meat off the bone.
• 48:23
  And I think so. I feel that way because there's
• 48:27
  a mystery that comes in and maybe it's because it's tied to
• 48:31
  two of my favorite episodes of the show.
• 48:34
  So, OK, so. Talk to me.
• 48:36
  Talk to me. So one of my favorite episodes
• 48:39
  is episode 5, which is basically the bullying episode, which is
• 48:43
  the episode where the flashback to where she was at her old
• 48:47
  school. And I just, I really got
• 48:51
  invested in the fact that like this girl who was the class
• 48:56
  president was being bullied for no reason.
• 48:59
  You know, like you know, the the, the bullies, the girl
• 49:02
  group, you know, was very abusive to her.
• 49:05
  They would take her things from her, you know, They would
• 49:09
  manipulate her to giving away those things.
• 49:13
  They would intimidate her. Nobody was saying a damn thing.
• 49:18
  Nobody was even turning an eye over to the situation.
• 49:22
  And you know, you get this internal monologue that she's
• 49:25
  saying like, you know, if if an act happens and nobody sees it,
• 49:29
  then it really happened. You know, she says.
• 49:33
  And it really culminates when she finally, like with her
• 49:39
  orange highlighter, just runs it across her book onto the table.
• 49:44
  She's had enough and she gets up.
• 49:48
  Hey you outside. Bro doesn't even like say
• 49:52
  anything else, just says outside.
• 49:55
  Yes. And then that's when we get the
• 49:58
  image from the very beginning of the episode where we see her
• 50:01
  looking at herself in a reflection, where she's all
• 50:03
  messy, dirty and bloody, and we see how she got there and we see
• 50:07
  those powers manifest themselves there.
• 50:10
  Where these girls. Yeah, for the first time
• 50:13
  because. She didn't know.
• 50:15
  No, she didn't know that. She was exactly so now, like.
• 50:20
  She went into that knowing it was 17 to one and she didn't
• 50:24
  know that she had. No, she was like, I'm, I'm tired
• 50:28
  of this bullshit. I'm going to stand up for this
• 50:30
  girl that nobody else is standing up for except for one
• 50:35
  guy. One guy was like, stop it.
• 50:39
  Like she had a a box cutter in her hand and so but then like
• 50:44
  the bully's boyfriend comes and beats the shit out of him.
• 50:47
  So like, and then even he says something along the lines of
• 50:51
  just stay quiet. Yeah, it's stupid.
• 50:54
  I shouldn't have spoke up. It's senior year.
• 50:55
  We're almost out of here. Yeah.
• 50:58
  So kind of just this passive nature of like just letting
• 51:02
  things happen and going about your day and but she was like, I
• 51:08
  can't do that. I can't.
• 51:10
  And so then, you know, she fights off these girls.
• 51:12
  She's healing while she's beating the shit out of these
• 51:16
  girls. She bites a girl's calf and you
• 51:20
  know, she gets expelled for, you know, fighting and it affects.
• 51:24
  She's the only one. She's the only one who gets
• 51:26
  expelled. Which?
• 51:27
  Because there's no evidence of any right like and they can't
• 51:31
  even do the self-defense thing because she has no, that's.
• 51:36
  The whole thing is that it looks like she beat the shit out of
• 51:39
  all the girls and not the other way around, right?
• 51:41
  Exactly, because they were ganging up on her.
• 51:43
  They were slashing her up, yeah, but they were fucking her up,
• 51:46
  yeah. And she was bleeding all over
• 51:48
  like someone. A giant brick, a giant stoned
• 51:52
  hit her over the head and you see the blood running down her
• 51:54
  forehead, but like she is just stone cold on the leader of the
• 51:58
  group. But it comes to a head because
• 52:03
  then the dad gets affected because now he to so it doesn't
• 52:07
  he she doesn't go to jail and she there's no prosecution or
• 52:10
  anything. He basically has to pay off
• 52:12
  these families. A settlement, yeah.
• 52:14
  Yeah. He has to sell the home, has to
• 52:16
  do all these things. But I really love when they're
• 52:20
  walking out of the school, they're walking through the
• 52:23
  field. And she asked.
• 52:26
  Do you, did you know that I was like this?
• 52:29
  And he says, not until today. And and then it continues.
• 52:37
  It's like your mom would still, well, she would be proud because
• 52:43
  you turned out like me. She'd be so happy.
• 52:46
  Yeah, she'd be so happy because you turned out like me.
• 52:49
  Someone who stands up, you think he's about to say something
• 52:54
  else, maybe like, you know you you have a power that I have or
• 52:59
  something that you turned out like me.
• 53:01
  But no, he's saying your character is just like mine
• 53:06
  because I wouldn't have just let that happen.
• 53:09
  So that was an episode where I was just like, damn, this is a
• 53:13
  really good episode, really showing not only how she got to
• 53:17
  where she is now, where she's like doing the tests over and
• 53:20
  over and trying to get faster, trying to get stronger.
• 53:24
  But you see where she comes from mentally.
• 53:26
  Like, you know, if she gets involved in stuff, she's a good
• 53:32
  person. But if she gets involved, she
• 53:34
  sees how it can affect people close to her.
• 53:38
  So that's why she's a little guarded when she first arrives
• 53:41
  at the school and doesn't really want to like fully show herself
• 53:47
  to everyone. And I just love that the episode
• 53:50
  ends with a new student coming to the school and it's the the
• 53:55
  class president from the old school who was being bullied.
• 53:58
  She comes to the new school so. Oh, OK.
• 54:01
  So yeah, so that is one of my which is a.
• 54:03
  Huge deal because it's their senior year, right?
• 54:05
  Yeah, they only have a few months left.
• 54:07
  Yeah. So imagine in the middle of your
• 54:09
  senior year you get up and go to a different school.
• 54:12
  So I mean, and then that all the bullet bullying.
• 54:16
  Does the same thing. Just to be with the person who
• 54:19
  stood up for her? Yes, exactly.
• 54:21
  Who risked her life to to stand up to the bullies?
• 54:24
  Yeah, exactly. So.
• 54:27
  So that's one of my favorite episodes that.
• 54:29
  So that really helped me tie with those two characters for
• 54:33
  sure. And then my other episode.
• 54:37
  And again, it's still with Hulk. It's episode 10, the monster.
• 54:44
  Oh, this is fantastic. I love this episode.
• 54:47
  Yeah, talk to me. This episode is going back in
• 54:50
  time, showing you how he used his powers back in the day.
• 54:56
  Yeah, at first he was like basically the the guy in the
• 55:01
  Mafia who he was, He was the meat shield.
• 55:04
  He was. He was in the game, yeah.
• 55:06
  He was in the game. He was the muscle.
• 55:08
  Yeah, exactly. He was the muscle.
• 55:10
  That's what I was trying to word.
• 55:13
  So he was the muscle. And then it gets to the point
• 55:16
  where he he's done with this mob boss, he's done with it.
• 55:21
  So. Well, so there's like a merger
• 55:24
  happening, right? Well, that that's happening
• 55:27
  later, but before that, like as the episode is showing us, it's
• 55:32
  it's showing us the, the early part of it where he goes and
• 55:35
  basically ends like what's happening with the particular
• 55:39
  mob boss with the glasses, with like he's got like the really,
• 55:44
  really wide. Cartoonish.
• 55:46
  Really cartoonish. Lapels on his shirt, the collar,
• 55:51
  so you know, And then he becomes the boss of this nightclub
• 55:57
  establishment because, I mean, he becomes a force because he
• 56:01
  shows that, yeah, you can't kill me, you can stick machetes and
• 56:06
  knives and everything. That was nuts when he came in to
• 56:09
  take over that club. Yeah, and he's like.
• 56:11
  Has like 3 stabs. He like, rips open his stomach
• 56:14
  and stuff. Yeah, he's like, where's my
• 56:16
  gallbladder? Like he's trying to, like,
• 56:19
  pinpoint the fact that he can go into his stomach, try to search
• 56:23
  for something. You can't kill him.
• 56:25
  Like he's scaring the guy on purpose to get him to sign the
• 56:28
  papers. And what's cool about the
• 56:30
  character that you find out is that he doesn't care about the
• 56:33
  money. No, he does not.
• 56:36
  He's not in the gang to make money.
• 56:38
  And that was something that his superior was saying.
• 56:40
  He's like, we're all in this to make money.
• 56:42
  That's the whole point of us being in this gang.
• 56:44
  And he's like, that's not why I'm in the gang.
• 56:47
  It's about protecting my my friends, the boys, yeah.
• 56:51
  It's his family, this adopted family that he has loyalty,
• 56:55
  right? Because the mob is messing
• 56:57
  around with peoples in in the different territories.
• 57:00
  So he's doing it for that. But what I like about the
• 57:02
  episode is that it is taking that and it's juxtaposing it
• 57:07
  with a different time in his life.
• 57:09
  That is like almost immediately after that.
• 57:12
  It's not in the present, it's like.
• 57:13
  Several months after, right? So like, you keep jumping back
• 57:16
  and forth between this man who seemingly is on top and then
• 57:22
  this in the next moment we see him.
• 57:25
  Sort of a neutered, yeah, like getting run over by hidden run,
• 57:29
  but he's doing it just so he can settle money right there on the
• 57:31
  spot. Yeah, that's his income.
• 57:34
  Yeah, that's his income. Exactly.
• 57:36
  So, you know, and then finally the the episode like kind of
• 57:40
  hits you in the middle of like here was the rise and here was
• 57:44
  the fall and the fact that these two mob bosses, the one that he
• 57:50
  was a part of originally, turns out that he was sacrificing him
• 57:56
  and sending him in. But at the end they they still
• 58:01
  did their merger because it was about the money at the end of
• 58:05
  the day. Yeah, and of course there are
• 58:08
  consequences when you go and you don't say yes, you, you decide
• 58:16
  no, and then you, you, one of your associates goes ahead and
• 58:21
  betrays the. The betrayal from the friend.
• 58:24
  Like, took me out, brah. Yeah man, just a pure betrayal,
• 58:29
  which really sucks. And you're still not going to
• 58:33
  kill him even if you tie him up the scene.
• 58:35
  Of them, like tying him up and then making, but they they put
• 58:40
  him in the car. They were on one of those
• 58:41
  barges? Yep.
• 58:44
  And they dumped the car. They dumped the car with him.
• 58:47
  Sea or something. Yeah.
• 58:49
  I was like, no, they did not. Yeah, they did.
• 58:55
  Sleeping with the fishes? Yeah.
• 59:00
  So yeah, they tried. With the gang shit, yeah.
• 59:02
  So they tried to get him to sleep with the fishes, but he
• 59:05
  was like, no, no, no, I'm not tired yet.
• 59:09
  So he goes and he breaks his thumb so he could get out of the
• 59:13
  handcuffs. He rips off the head seat so he
• 59:16
  could get the rope around his neck off.
• 59:19
  And then they cut to him in the club again, murder a bunch of
• 59:23
  people and his former friend on his knees begging him for his
• 59:28
  life. Yeah, it it's.
• 59:32
  A little similarity here with ballerina because both that
• 59:36
  betrayal. That that friend that betrayed
• 59:38
  him in the gang and the villain in Ballerina have like the sides
• 59:43
  of their mouth cut. Yes, I.
• 59:46
  Don't know what that was about, but yeah, for some reason they
• 59:49
  they like like that that Joker scar.
• 59:52
  Yeah, I don't know how I got these scars.
• 59:55
  So. So those are two of my favorite
• 59:58
  episodes. No, but you didn't.
• 59:59
  Oh my God, you skipped this whole thing in episode 10.
• 1:00:02
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Where two things.
• 1:00:05
  Sun one is the sunfish. What do you think of the
• 1:00:07
  sunfish? Like the?
• 1:00:09
  Which was swimming throughout the episode and that's his
• 1:00:12
  favorite fish to eat, like the dish that he kept wanting to
• 1:00:14
  eat. And it wasn't customary to eat
• 1:00:17
  this in this new city that the gang was in.
• 1:00:20
  I I want to say that it was kind of his.
• 1:00:26
  Spirit animal, yes. Yeah.
• 1:00:29
  I don't know what the significance of a sunfish is to
• 1:00:35
  different people or maybe to that community, so I'm not sure.
• 1:00:39
  But it could be his spirit animal.
• 1:00:40
  It could. Be It's a giant fish.
• 1:00:42
  Have you ever seen a sunfish? It's a it's a giant fish.
• 1:00:44
  It's. Huge, yeah.
• 1:00:46
  I had in that moment where he's in the water and he hears the
• 1:00:50
  fish, it it felt to me like a Man of Steel.
• 1:00:54
  Where? Where?
• 1:00:56
  Clark Kent after he saved all those people from that oil rig?
• 1:01:00
  He's like laying in the water and he just sees the whale, just
• 1:01:03
  like. Oh my God.
• 1:01:05
  Swimming by. You're right.
• 1:01:07
  Yeah, it's very similar to that. But yeah, so I.
• 1:01:13
  Stopped drawing comparisons to the plethora of superhero movies
• 1:01:16
  that we've watched in our lifetime.
• 1:01:18
  I know there's so many. There's too many.
• 1:01:20
  Too many anyway. But I want to go back in the
• 1:01:24
  episode though, because you can clearly see that he he does have
• 1:01:29
  a heart of gold when after his fall after he is down on the
• 1:01:33
  dumps like he's. Living in that Moto?
• 1:01:36
  Yeah, exactly. Where he he can only pay 1A week
• 1:01:38
  because once a week because he has to get money to do it, yeah.
• 1:01:43
  But he meets his wife here. What do you think of his
• 1:01:46
  romance? See, I I I like it because I
• 1:01:49
  like that it is not the most common way of meeting someone.
• 1:01:54
  No, pretty unconventional. Yes, very unconventional.
• 1:01:58
  But he's so cute. He is so cute, 'cause he sees
• 1:02:04
  her and oh she she was getting hassled by these assholes in the
• 1:02:08
  same hallway as him. At first.
• 1:02:11
  And she just takes care of it herself.
• 1:02:12
  But he was ready to like jump in.
• 1:02:14
  Like he had opened his door and was like about to come out.
• 1:02:16
  And then he's like, Oh no, no, she's got it and came back
• 1:02:19
  inside. And then later he starts trying
• 1:02:22
  to get her to come and bring the coffee, deliver the coffee,
• 1:02:25
  which I had never heard of this service before.
• 1:02:28
  But if, I don't know, it's the 90s and I don't know anything
• 1:02:30
  about Korea in the 90s, That's true.
• 1:02:33
  I was like this is strange but anyway the delivery like Uber
• 1:02:37
  eats now. No, but she comes in and makes
• 1:02:40
  the coffee for him. Oh yeah, that's right.
• 1:02:41
  You're right. Never mind.
• 1:02:43
  And all of the all of the people that come, the ladies that come
• 1:02:47
  look a little like, I don't know, they're like flirtatious
• 1:02:51
  and they. Ask if they want if he wants a
• 1:02:53
  ticket. Right, there's a.
• 1:02:56
  There's a little hint. It's like an of.
• 1:02:59
  Undercurrent of like sex work. I don't know if that's.
• 1:03:03
  Accurate, but that is what I it's a hint because if you look
• 1:03:07
  at, if you go back to the argument in the hallway with the
• 1:03:11
  other patron, like he says 10,000, he's.
• 1:03:16
  Trying to pay her to to sleep right their their dollars.
• 1:03:21
  I'm not sure how. 01 one 10,001 for a cup of coffee.
• 1:03:26
  Like there's no way it's that. Like, that was the charge that
• 1:03:29
  she was saying. And so then like, she explains,
• 1:03:31
  like First off it's two cups, That's the minimum order.
• 1:03:36
  And then with the service fee and everything, it's 10,000.
• 1:03:39
  But when she gets up, like just the way she's dressed with the
• 1:03:44
  hoop earrings and all that and made-up little chunga.
• 1:03:47
  Yeah, little chunga. So you know, you there's an
• 1:03:50
  undercurrent there. Obviously it's not explicit or
• 1:03:53
  anything, but you can tell like there is a type of service where
• 1:03:59
  they masquerade. I don't know if it's guaranteed,
• 1:04:03
  like if you order coffee 100% like you saw.
• 1:04:06
  You see what I'm saying? So I think there's kind of.
• 1:04:09
  If they offer, great. But I guess If not, then you're
• 1:04:12
  just getting coffee, right? I don't know.
• 1:04:14
  I think it's it's not explained. It's very well at all.
• 1:04:17
  It's probably a special type of service of like, hey, we have
• 1:04:22
  beautiful women who can make you coffee.
• 1:04:24
  Right. I think that's the appeal.
• 1:04:26
  That's the appeal, like, and and some people probably read too
• 1:04:31
  much into it and think that it's something more.
• 1:04:35
  Do you know what I mean? I don't know.
• 1:04:36
  Maybe the people do. Like what I'm saying is the
• 1:04:39
  people ordering or maybe coming to the conclusion of, hey, maybe
• 1:04:45
  these pretty women coming to make coffee, they're not just
• 1:04:49
  going to make coffee, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:04:52
  So May, and then we're going to see the prize.
• 1:04:59
  I'm so, I'm so sorry I did that. I don't know.
• 1:05:03
  So, but what I like is he, what does he order like 5 different
• 1:05:10
  coffees just to get her to deliver it?
• 1:05:12
  Right. Exactly, exactly.
• 1:05:15
  You know, don't forget to put cream in it.
• 1:05:19
  So yeah, so, so those two episodes right there.
• 1:05:24
  No, but when he cleaned up the little apartment that he's in
• 1:05:26
  and stuff like that was like after he complained, like you
• 1:05:31
  guys don't even clean it. And he's like and the the woman
• 1:05:34
  is like you're living there. We don't offer that for long
• 1:05:38
  term. You want your room clean?
• 1:05:40
  Go stay in a hotel. Because he was like trying to
• 1:05:44
  like haggle, I guess on the price of the the room.
• 1:05:47
  And he was like, you don't even come and clean the room.
• 1:05:51
  I don't know. I could see it both ways, but I
• 1:05:53
  see what you're saying, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:54
  Anyway, I really like this, this love story because it's not,
• 1:05:58
  it's unconventional and she's sort of a hard on him and it
• 1:06:03
  takes a few of these coffee dates for her to, like figure
• 1:06:06
  him out for her to for him to figure her out.
• 1:06:10
  He like what it, what is it? I think we're in episode 11
• 1:06:13
  actually. But you know, he closes the
• 1:06:15
  window because she's cold and he, like always has it open.
• 1:06:19
  Yeah. He talked to her about Hulk
• 1:06:21
  Hogan and martial arts novels, and that these novels are
• 1:06:26
  actually romantic and they have happy endings and the hero gets
• 1:06:30
  the girl at the end of these stories and stuff and just
• 1:06:34
  sharing interests with each other, like true dates, you
• 1:06:37
  know? Exactly.
• 1:06:39
  And again, I know. And then he turns off the TV
• 1:06:42
  because she doesn't seem to like it when the TV is on.
• 1:06:44
  Like he's learning her and he's very considerate.
• 1:06:48
  And it's so cute. I don't know, like, it's really
• 1:06:52
  cute. But going back to episode
• 1:06:54
  episode 10, he when he gets lost, yes, at night trying to
• 1:07:01
  find the motel and he cries when he sees her again on the moped.
• 1:07:07
  I was almost in tears. I it was so shockingly endearing
• 1:07:13
  and he just says I can't find my way.
• 1:07:16
  Literally and figuratively. Because without the gang, he
• 1:07:19
  feels lost without purpose or direction in life and he's doing
• 1:07:23
  these stupid things to get money.
• 1:07:27
  Literally putting himself in harm's way to get money.
• 1:07:30
  And then he's also lost, like literally he cannot find his way
• 1:07:35
  out of this maze like, you know, suburban area or urban area and.
• 1:07:43
  I just felt for him immediately. Like, did you feel for the like,
• 1:07:47
  I was completely sold on this dude.
• 1:07:49
  I was like in his corner 110%, yeah.
• 1:07:52
  Because you can tell that even when he was part of the Mafia or
• 1:07:56
  the OR the gang, there was never like a sense of like he's doing
• 1:08:01
  it to be, you know, he's not trying to do a put on of like,
• 1:08:07
  oh, I'm a mafia. So I'm like, you know, he's
• 1:08:10
  never doing it for the intention of getting rich.
• 1:08:13
  Or, you know, he's just doing it for protecting people because
• 1:08:17
  that's what his natural, you know, inclination is.
• 1:08:22
  He's a protector. He's a protector.
• 1:08:25
  So that's what he wanted to do in that game.
• 1:08:29
  He wanted to protect his own people.
• 1:08:31
  And now that he has no people to protect, he doesn't view himself
• 1:08:35
  valuable as he does other people.
• 1:08:38
  He always values the other more than himself.
• 1:08:41
  So if he doesn't have anyone to protect, what is he protecting?
• 1:08:46
  Right. Oh, I got nothing to add to
• 1:08:49
  that, Nothing to add to that at all.
• 1:08:50
  That was perfect. Episode 11.
• 1:08:52
  The one in the hallway, Yes. The one in the hallway.
• 1:08:56
  Yes, yes, yes. Tell me they did not try and
• 1:09:00
  pull a Netflix on Netflix They. Like, this is like double
• 1:09:04
  dutching on Netflix to me. Yeah, I think they it's man,
• 1:09:09
  it's a really good job. It's such a great sequence.
• 1:09:12
  And then the chase sequence afterward is great.
• 1:09:15
  When he's like running around on foot, they're like trying to
• 1:09:18
  drive him down. I mean, it's so compelling.
• 1:09:23
  It is really compelling. They do a really good job with
• 1:09:26
  this episode. Yeah.
• 1:09:27
  And just this entire action sequence.
• 1:09:30
  I think that's one thing I will give the show is that just about
• 1:09:33
  all of their action sequences are just so well done.
• 1:09:37
  Well done, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:39
  I don't really have any complaints for them.
• 1:09:41
  Again, I mentioned it before, they're coherent is it's the big
• 1:09:44
  thing which a lot of directors just in general like to do all
• 1:09:50
  this fancy editing around it and you don't need to.
• 1:09:54
  Yeah, have a medium shot and let us see where they're going.
• 1:09:58
  Show me what's going on. See who they're punching, you
• 1:10:01
  know? See how they're reacting to the
• 1:10:02
  punch? That's what I want.
• 1:10:04
  And the show. The show delivers with that.
• 1:10:08
  She saves him on the moped again and repeats the line that he
• 1:10:15
  said back to her earlier, because initially, well, they're
• 1:10:19
  sitting in the coffee with the coffee in his room.
• 1:10:22
  She asked him why haven't you asked me why I'm doing this, why
• 1:10:25
  I'm like a coffee girl? And he told her, you must have
• 1:10:30
  had a reason. And basically just gives her the
• 1:10:33
  benefit of the doubt. And if she doesn't want to share
• 1:10:35
  it, she doesn't have to share it.
• 1:10:37
  And with all of the chaos, pure chaos that's happening, a couple
• 1:10:43
  of action sequences later, she saves his ass.
• 1:10:46
  And he basically asked her like, why aren't you asking me what
• 1:10:49
  the fuck's going on? And she says, you must have had
• 1:10:52
  a reason. Yes, I was like, this is cinema.
• 1:10:58
  Like, I love it. Yeah, trust.
• 1:11:01
  That they built over time, and they've just endeared themselves
• 1:11:07
  to one another. And at the end he finally comes
• 1:11:10
  back after he's been recruited by that asshole in the in the
• 1:11:13
  NIS. Or at that point it was ANSP.
• 1:11:18
  He's, he tells her in the coffee.
• 1:11:22
  I think it was a coffee shop. Still, he tells her I'm still
• 1:11:25
  bad at finding my way. I just tried to find you so bad.
• 1:11:32
  She's like, that's smooth. Like even she says something to
• 1:11:34
  that effect. He's got the Rizz.
• 1:11:37
  Godly. Yeah.
• 1:11:39
  So I love them. So what are your favorite
• 1:11:41
  episodes? Well, Episode.
• 1:11:43
  So it still has to do with Hulk. Hulk number one.
• 1:11:47
  That's what I thought. Let me see.
• 1:11:51
  I think it's episode 13 it when she dies.
• 1:11:59
  I was. I was just crying into my bowl
• 1:12:02
  of cereal. Heartbreaking her death, his
• 1:12:06
  wailing in the in the funeral when he's like changing into the
• 1:12:10
  funeral clothes and stuff and he just cannot stop crying and
• 1:12:14
  wailing. I felt his pain.
• 1:12:18
  He was whimpering at one point. I was like, Oh my God, like it
• 1:12:23
  was heart wrenching. Tore me up.
• 1:12:28
  And I also liked how in this episode we got to see an
• 1:12:32
  evolution of their of their family because it was just them
• 1:12:34
  at 1st and he had this cushy, not cushy, but he had a job
• 1:12:37
  study job with the government and she was, I think it was
• 1:12:42
  every month they were having BBQ at the house.
• 1:12:46
  Do you remember this? Yes.
• 1:12:50
  And she finally reveals to him like, oh, you're not going to be
• 1:12:53
  home for, you know? Barbecue tonight and he says no,
• 1:12:57
  but we can have BBQ next time, next month or whatever.
• 1:13:01
  And she goes. The only reason why I wanted you
• 1:13:04
  here in the in the house to have BBQ once a month.
• 1:13:07
  We can have BBQ at any time, but today is my ovulation day and
• 1:13:14
  it's revealed she's been trying to get pregnant this whole time.
• 1:13:17
  Yeah, wants to get pregnant. So fertility issues are brought
• 1:13:22
  up in the show briefly, like they don't linger on it, but.
• 1:13:26
  No, but that's enough for her to be like I was hoping to get
• 1:13:30
  pregnant on these BBQ nights because, you know, I'm the most
• 1:13:36
  fertile today. I was shocked that they even
• 1:13:40
  went this far. Yeah, this show contains a lot,
• 1:13:45
  You know, like they're, you know, something that really
• 1:13:49
  stands out to me is like they allow for the male characters to
• 1:13:54
  really emote. They they get to show their
• 1:13:59
  emotions, whether they're angry, they're sad, they're frustrated,
• 1:14:05
  you get to see it. So like, obviously their example
• 1:14:08
  with Hulk or he's crying, whimpering after the death of
• 1:14:12
  his wife. Another example is later on in,
• 1:14:17
  I want to say it's episode 19. Yeah, episode 19 where you have
• 1:14:23
  the the bad guys who are fighting at the school against
• 1:14:28
  the adults. The last few episodes is a fight
• 1:14:33
  at the school. Yeah, it is.
• 1:14:34
  That's like a downright brawl. It really is.
• 1:14:37
  And it lasts for several hours. It it does so Hulk is facing
• 1:14:41
  basically a bigger Hulk. Yeah, and but that bigger Hulk
• 1:14:46
  has a connection with the dude who's like kind of controls the
• 1:14:51
  weather in a way. Controls the weather.
• 1:14:54
  That controls the weather. Sorry, but like it looked like
• 1:14:57
  he was controlling the weather. Just.
• 1:14:58
  Because, oh, he had like, a clap.
• 1:14:59
  Yeah, he had like this clap that just would send.
• 1:15:01
  Like Supersonic Clap? Yeah, pretty much.
• 1:15:04
  But there was a connection between the two and after the
• 1:15:08
  Sonic Clap guy dies. Like he breaks down.
• 1:15:14
  I know what he cries like and you see, like the connection
• 1:15:19
  that they had, Like, you know, he was a guard and he was a
• 1:15:22
  prisoner. Well, that's the thing, you
• 1:15:24
  know, helps him escape and all this stuff.
• 1:15:27
  The thing is, like the show gives you character studies for
• 1:15:31
  each and every fucking character, and the Sonic Clap
• 1:15:34
  guy had a whole history that we got to see where he was in a
• 1:15:38
  North Korean concentration camp in a fucking hole in a
• 1:15:44
  mountainside somewhere. And that's where he grew up,
• 1:15:47
  because he's a survivor. Maybe his powers just gave him
• 1:15:51
  that extra resilience and he survived where others were
• 1:15:55
  constantly dying of malnutrition, of exposure, of
• 1:15:59
  whatever in the jail. And the scene of them, like
• 1:16:04
  opening up the the cell to reveal this decomposing body
• 1:16:08
  right there at the entrance. And then he's huddled in the
• 1:16:10
  corner as a child. How can you not feel bad?
• 1:16:16
  For this Sonic clap guy, even though he's trying to take down
• 1:16:18
  your favorite hero characters in South Korea like that is
• 1:16:23
  incredible that you have so much growth and so much back story
• 1:16:29
  and and just they built these characters right brick by brick.
• 1:16:34
  You're feeling some type of way about these characters and how
• 1:16:37
  they go out because a Sonic clap guy, what, he's a victim.
• 1:16:42
  He's a victim of the of the ongoing war between North and
• 1:16:45
  South Korea. Of the dictatorship in North
• 1:16:48
  Korea. And his whole family was
• 1:16:51
  slaughtered. And he's alone and they have to
• 1:16:53
  put sunglasses on him because he's like a a mole down there.
• 1:16:57
  Can't adjust to the light anymore.
• 1:17:02
  Nuts. Yeah, nuts.
• 1:17:04
  You sympathize with characters. You empathize for characters.
• 1:17:08
  Yeah, they do. An amazing And so that the Hulk,
• 1:17:11
  The North Korean Hulk, Yes, you feel bad for that too.
• 1:17:15
  That dude too, because you saw him climbing up a sheer
• 1:17:21
  mountainside trying to get back up to, I guess, the chief of the
• 1:17:27
  of this division, the Super division.
• 1:17:31
  But he died. Like he effectively died because
• 1:17:33
  he was. They were all pushed off the
• 1:17:36
  Cliff to see if they had powers. Wild ass way to test if they
• 1:17:42
  have powers, But all of his comrades were murdered and he
• 1:17:48
  died. And then he came back and
• 1:17:50
  started climbing up. There was no other way.
• 1:17:52
  They weren't going to go get him, no.
• 1:17:55
  It, I mean, and it also showed it's incredible it, but it also
• 1:18:00
  shows the way that the two countries deal with, you know,
• 1:18:05
  super powered people where you know.
• 1:18:09
  Neither way is great. Neither way is great.
• 1:18:12
  That's the that's the worst part of it is that neither way is
• 1:18:15
  great because all these kids have to hide in secret.
• 1:18:20
  You know they can't show their powers.
• 1:18:23
  You know you have the parents that are doing everything they
• 1:18:25
  can to protect them. You have government agencies
• 1:18:29
  tracking and hunting the Super powered people down, which is
• 1:18:34
  why I said damn, this is the X-Men.
• 1:18:37
  Like these are super powered people who in the face of
• 1:18:41
  society are not fully accepted. And government agencies either
• 1:18:46
  want mutants, they're mutants. They either want to hunt them
• 1:18:48
  down to kill them or they want to experiment on them and use
• 1:18:51
  them as weapons. So yeah, So either way, like the
• 1:18:57
  way they're treated just in general, by society, by each
• 1:19:02
  other, by the nature of these governments and what they want
• 1:19:06
  to use them for, it sucks for them.
• 1:19:09
  And the kids didn't ask for that life.
• 1:19:12
  No, none of them did. No, none of them did.
• 1:19:14
  But they have to make do the best they can with the.
• 1:19:18
  They have to survive. They have to survive.
• 1:19:20
  Yeah, yeah. So my favorite episodes had to
• 1:19:25
  do with Hulk and X23. Although I I really, I love
• 1:19:32
  that. I love that you adopted the
• 1:19:34
  name. Well, I'm not going to sit here
• 1:19:36
  and try and remember it because I'll remember their real name
• 1:19:39
  and not their character name and vice versa.
• 1:19:41
  And then it gets confusing. So and then if you've never
• 1:19:45
  watched a show, but you're listening to the spoiler
• 1:19:47
  section, like you don't know who the hell I'm talking about.
• 1:19:49
  So yeah, it's a little easier. But episode 12, bro, we got to
• 1:19:54
  see the dynamic duo. We got to see Hulk and Superman.
• 1:19:59
  On a couple of their missions and how the two men met, how
• 1:20:03
  they work together. This is something that is
• 1:20:06
  missing from so many shows, from so many friendships.
• 1:20:11
  Consider Star Wars prequel. This is like that in between
• 1:20:17
  stuff like how they kind of work together, how they met.
• 1:20:21
  All this stuff in between, they're not just talking, like,
• 1:20:24
  remember that job in Argentina? Blah, blah.
• 1:20:26
  That was a crazy job. We don't get none of that
• 1:20:28
  change. No, no, no.
• 1:20:28
  We're there in Argentina with yet.
• 1:20:31
  That's what I mean. Yes, that's what I love when
• 1:20:34
  they do that. Because there's so many movies
• 1:20:37
  that'll be like, remember that time where we it's like just
• 1:20:41
  show us the damn thing. Just show us.
• 1:20:43
  Don't tell us. Show us.
• 1:20:44
  Don't tell us, show us. So it's just a little side
• 1:20:47
  tangent that I wanted to say real quick.
• 1:20:50
  So like there was a recent show just now on Disney plus Ahsoka
• 1:20:54
  where the the season was only 8 episodes long for for no reason
• 1:20:59
  at all. Like it was short for what?
• 1:21:02
  I thought it was because there were episodes that you could
• 1:21:05
  have shown us things that you didn't get to show us either
• 1:21:09
  with this show or even with the show that preceded it, Rebels
• 1:21:13
  where a lot of characters came from.
• 1:21:15
  So like you could have shown us like.
• 1:21:17
  Ezra and Thron, how did they end up on that planet?
• 1:21:21
  Show us, you know, instead of like, oh, I've been here a long
• 1:21:25
  time, you know, and like, OK, what did you do in that time?
• 1:21:29
  Like how did you get away from Thron that he's not chasing you?
• 1:21:34
  Like, so show us that. Like I see what you're saying.
• 1:21:36
  You know, Star Wars is a big, grand example of what not to do.
• 1:21:41
  And moving this show really came through.
• 1:21:45
  And you see this dynamic, this bromance that they have together
• 1:21:50
  and the bond that they share. It's palpable.
• 1:21:53
  And you're rooting for them and you want, you're wanting to know
• 1:21:56
  what the fuck happened to Choyan Sung's character, Superman,
• 1:22:02
  right? Because in this episode, it's
• 1:22:04
  unclear if Superman went to kill the North Korean dictator or
• 1:22:07
  not. Then you find out what the fuck
• 1:22:10
  happened in North Korea later and it's so cool.
• 1:22:14
  It really is also going back to family because I mentioned
• 1:22:21
  infertility issues earlier with Hulk and his wife.
• 1:22:25
  Not that they had infertility issues, they just didn't.
• 1:22:28
  I don't know what was going on because if she was having sex on
• 1:22:31
  her ovulation day and nothing was happening, I don't know,
• 1:22:33
  maybe she did have infertility issues.
• 1:22:35
  But you never see in K dramas, they cover the newborn era in a
• 1:22:43
  family with a family, right? Actually, the act of actually
• 1:22:48
  starting a family of, you know, changing dirty diapers and
• 1:22:53
  things like that, you see kids in K dramas, but they're already
• 1:22:56
  grown and talking and the family unit is already built.
• 1:22:59
  But you don't ever see two people coming together to get
• 1:23:03
  get married, be together and partner together in child
• 1:23:07
  rearing. That's really unique.
• 1:23:10
  And it's heartwarming to see both couples, Superman and
• 1:23:14
  Hulk's families, get started and how they're like staying up late
• 1:23:18
  and the baby's crying and you know it.
• 1:23:21
  That's cool. It's different and it's
• 1:23:25
  character building as well. The character building, world
• 1:23:29
  building in this show is man, it's so strong.
• 1:23:34
  Like you could put it up against a lot of different other, like,
• 1:23:39
  you know, types of properties where they're trying to build a
• 1:23:42
  world and a lot of them fail where moving succeeds, like, Oh
• 1:23:47
  yeah. Yeah, they do a great job.
• 1:23:48
  Now the fact that they had 20 episodes to do it is really
• 1:23:52
  good. So you have time to fill so you
• 1:23:54
  could back story stuff for sure. For sure versus.
• 1:23:57
  You know, shows nowadays are only like. 6810 episode
• 1:24:02
  miniseries and it's like you're not going to get the full depth
• 1:24:07
  and scope of the characters if you're rushing through from
• 1:24:11
  point A to point B. Here the show does not rush from
• 1:24:15
  point A to point B. He takes us on little side
• 1:24:18
  adventures. Oh, you want to know what Hulk
• 1:24:21
  was like when he was younger? Here it is.
• 1:24:24
  And do you want to know these different adventures?
• 1:24:26
  Here they are. Or Pokémon the Electricity dude.
• 1:24:29
  Yes, electricity, dude. You find out about this bus
• 1:24:32
  driver who has like a very small part in the final episode but is
• 1:24:36
  like a recurring character. And you're also rooting for him.
• 1:24:39
  And you're wondering, is he ever going to use his powers?
• 1:24:42
  Because they they, you know, kind of go about it like at one
• 1:24:47
  point Frank is leaving the building and.
• 1:24:53
  Electricity man's in the building with like a little
• 1:24:55
  battery in his hand but he's like, but what was cool about
• 1:24:59
  the batteries was that contain memories.
• 1:25:02
  That was cool too. Yeah, that's a cool thing to
• 1:25:05
  show us. And and so, like, he is so like,
• 1:25:09
  you know, emotional at that moment that it's like flickering
• 1:25:14
  with the lights of the entire building.
• 1:25:16
  So like, you're kind of waiting and they're building up that
• 1:25:19
  character. When is he finally going to
• 1:25:22
  unleash this power? And he does in a really
• 1:25:26
  satisfying way. Yes, exactly.
• 1:25:29
  Do you want to talk about Frank and how he was basically stolen
• 1:25:33
  to the US? Yes, we have to.
• 1:25:35
  OK, OK, talk about Frank. Go go for.
• 1:25:37
  It no, no, no. Like, lead us in, I'll jump in.
• 1:25:40
  So there's this character named Frank.
• 1:25:43
  Who is the assassin sent by you don't know.
• 1:25:45
  You don't know. They figured you find you find
• 1:25:47
  out it's the US and he starts assassinating all of the supers.
• 1:25:53
  Right, exactly. And he gets a back story.
• 1:25:57
  It's like, you'll get a back story and you'll get a back
• 1:25:59
  story. You'll get a back story.
• 1:26:02
  He gets a back story. And it's very interesting.
• 1:26:06
  He was stolen as a child. He was a a kid out of wedlock.
• 1:26:10
  His mother was like a bar singer.
• 1:26:13
  And he, I think, was also the son of AUS military service.
• 1:26:20
  Member I think it was, yeah, I was in stationed in Korea.
• 1:26:24
  So they find out he has powers or something and they just ship
• 1:26:29
  him right off to is it Idaho or Iowa?
• 1:26:33
  It was Iowa. It was Iowa, right, with the
• 1:26:37
  cornfields. Yep, Iowa.
• 1:26:40
  And they start training them brutally.
• 1:26:42
  The scene of him running through and like having one on ones with
• 1:26:45
  the other kids and fighting to the death, like battle Royale
• 1:26:49
  style. Yeah, you're just shocked.
• 1:26:53
  Like I'm looking around like where's the camera, Office
• 1:26:56
  style. And it does explain the fact
• 1:26:58
  that, like, early on, before you know him, like he's talking crap
• 1:27:04
  to that superhero guy, the first one that he kills, and he's like
• 1:27:08
  talking in English. And you're like, yeah,
• 1:27:10
  interesting that he's speaking English, because nobody else in
• 1:27:15
  this show has. Any inkling of speaking any
• 1:27:18
  English? And here's this character.
• 1:27:21
  So it does bring a bit of intrigue.
• 1:27:23
  Like, OK, where is he from? Who is he working for?
• 1:27:27
  What are his powers so? And they you figure it out.
• 1:27:30
  Yeah, they they. So I really enjoyed that about a
• 1:27:35
  character like this. And then they also planted the
• 1:27:37
  seed for possible Season 2, right?
• 1:27:39
  Yes, they did. And his age, whatever agency
• 1:27:42
  he's a part of, because there's other kids in this program that
• 1:27:47
  have powers and he's only F for Frank.
• 1:27:52
  Exactly. So there's also like, what was
• 1:27:54
  the end of this show? They had that post credits scene
• 1:27:58
  E for Elias. E for Elias, another super,
• 1:28:03
  super agent that gets called in, We have to call from the US.
• 1:28:07
  So the US is like an antagonist, right?
• 1:28:09
  Like, yeah, they're the they want to be the only people that
• 1:28:11
  have supers. Exactly.
• 1:28:13
  And also that leads into. Man, too many comparisons with
• 1:28:17
  X-Men. I'm so sorry, but like, wait,
• 1:28:20
  wait, wait. Before you make comparisons,
• 1:28:22
  hold that thought. Hold that thought because Frank
• 1:28:24
  also represents, like, Finding Your Roots and the adoption
• 1:28:29
  story of so many people in Korea.
• 1:28:31
  Because Korea, as a lot of you guys know, is the number one
• 1:28:34
  exporter of babies. Oh man.
• 1:28:37
  And so there's a lot of adoption stories that are extremely
• 1:28:43
  moving, no pun intended. And Frank represents this like
• 1:28:47
  subset to people who are yearning for connection,
• 1:28:50
  yearning to know where they came from, who their parents are.
• 1:28:54
  And at the end, in the post credits scene, you see him, he's
• 1:28:57
  missing like Mia, but he's really tracing his roots back to
• 1:29:02
  that club that his mother used to sing at and who knows where
• 1:29:05
  that is going to lead. Yeah, in a possible season too,
• 1:29:09
  right? So it's interesting.
• 1:29:12
  It it really is, it's covering so much.
• 1:29:14
  And. Just to go back to that point
• 1:29:17
  that I was going to say because like you said F for Frank and
• 1:29:21
  there's like E for Elias. It does remind me of when the
• 1:29:26
  company I'm, I can't remember the name of the company, but the
• 1:29:30
  company that is trying to use the mutant DNA to create mutants
• 1:29:36
  and that's where X-23 comes from, because they number them
• 1:29:40
  X1X2 and all that, so. X-23 is the 23rd iteration of
• 1:29:45
  the mutant that they they assembled, so there's a
• 1:29:50
  similarity there. Also, there's a similarity kind
• 1:29:53
  of in using using someone from a, you know, from a different
• 1:30:00
  country and having them come back and do all these types of
• 1:30:04
  work. The Winter Soldier.
• 1:30:07
  Type of like scenario, right, right.
• 1:30:09
  You know, like, so there's like similarities there.
• 1:30:12
  That is very similar to Winter Soldier, yeah?
• 1:30:15
  So, yeah, this show. OK, so Frank is Winter Soldier.
• 1:30:18
  Frank's The Winter Soldier. Trying to remember his past.
• 1:30:22
  Trying to remember his past. Oh my God, it's too perfect.
• 1:30:25
  Yes. Yeah, so, so we got The Winter
• 1:30:27
  Soldier, we got Hulk, we got X-23.
• 1:30:29
  We got so many people. OK, let's do two more
• 1:30:34
  backstories and then let's jump into end game episodes.
• 1:30:37
  OK, so I think the most, the most or not the most, the best
• 1:30:43
  parts of Han Yoju are when Bong Sok is a child.
• 1:30:49
  OK, yes. And you see her in the snow and
• 1:30:52
  she's carrying him on on her back and she's got like this
• 1:30:56
  rolling bag and it's it's like very overwhelming.
• 1:31:01
  The conditions are crazy and she's tired.
• 1:31:06
  Yeah, you know, she's put in everything to just keep them
• 1:31:10
  alive and surviving and that moment when he starts to float
• 1:31:15
  in the restaurant. And she, like, puts a foot down
• 1:31:19
  on the chair and puts them back on the ground.
• 1:31:20
  And she says, Mom's tired. Like, I just felt that deep in
• 1:31:26
  my bones. Everyone, poor one out for your
• 1:31:28
  mom. Yes, because they are
• 1:31:31
  superheroes. Like I think this show is really
• 1:31:34
  sheds also the theme of women. Mothers are superheroes and
• 1:31:39
  fathers are superheroes. Like parents are everything.
• 1:31:44
  They don't have to have super powers to be super.
• 1:31:47
  Exactly. Exactly.
• 1:31:50
  Every single parent. Every single mom and dad out
• 1:31:53
  there. Like they're doing miracle work
• 1:31:56
  every day. Yeah.
• 1:31:58
  Yeah, the good ones, 'cause I know there's horror stories and
• 1:32:00
  everyone's got their issues. I I totally get that.
• 1:32:03
  But, you know, yes, but I think Hanyuju excels when the child,
• 1:32:08
  when Bong Sook is a child and when he's already grown, she's
• 1:32:13
  still great, but she doesn't have like moments to shine like
• 1:32:15
  she does when she's like teaching him how to walk without
• 1:32:19
  floating and, you know, being on her guard.
• 1:32:23
  And it's very it's very much that I think everyone felt
• 1:32:29
  something when she was just breaking down from the heaviness
• 1:32:37
  of the situation, losing her husband and having to be a
• 1:32:41
  single mom. Yeah, And they bring that that
• 1:32:47
  visual moment, full circle where she's carrying him, and then he
• 1:32:52
  gets to return the favor of carrying her.
• 1:32:57
  I had this in my notes as well because I it's very emotional
• 1:33:05
  for me. I don't know why the full circle
• 1:33:07
  moment with the the piggyback ride really got me, but the
• 1:33:10
  reciprocation is precious. This is in the very last
• 1:33:14
  episode. The child she's so dearly raised
• 1:33:18
  and protected is now protecting her.
• 1:33:21
  Exactly. And just as she suffered in the
• 1:33:24
  snow carrying him on her back, now he carries her and she just
• 1:33:27
  Mumbles like my son is all grown up now.
• 1:33:31
  But she actually uses the word udi udi which means our like us.
• 1:33:38
  Ah, OK, she says. Like our son is all grown up
• 1:33:41
  now. Gotcha.
• 1:33:43
  So, like, I guess talking about like she's almost like she's
• 1:33:48
  talking to her, her husband. Her husband who's missing.
• 1:33:52
  Yes, I love it. Don't you love it?
• 1:33:58
  It's great. It's great stuff.
• 1:34:00
  It's great stuff. All right, Precious, any other
• 1:34:04
  characters you want to go over? Did we want to talk about Kim
• 1:34:08
  Sung Kyun Hulk #2? Hulk #2, because, bro, that
• 1:34:13
  story was also, like, really emotional.
• 1:34:15
  And he is such a loving father. He really is such a loving
• 1:34:23
  father in a very different way than the others and it I think I
• 1:34:29
  was almost moved to tears again when he comes back after that
• 1:34:31
  big brawl with the protest that was broken up by the police and
• 1:34:36
  his wife was like taken away in the Paddy wagon and like he
• 1:34:41
  starts a fight with the. Cops don't mess with his family,
• 1:34:46
  man, bro. Do not mess with his family.
• 1:34:51
  He comes back after this whole brawl where he ends up in the
• 1:34:55
  sewer system. They save a child.
• 1:34:59
  They got sucked into the sewers. I mean it was it was extensive.
• 1:35:04
  But he ends up back home and his little boy is sitting there just
• 1:35:08
  waiting for him and he's like, I'm so sorry I was late.
• 1:35:11
  I'm so sorry I was late. And then they bust in like the
• 1:35:14
  NIS busting to take him. I remember that like that was
• 1:35:19
  really sad that. It was so sad.
• 1:35:22
  It was sad. And in the final episodes, Hulk
• 1:35:27
  #2 slash Fist of Fury, that's what I have in my notes.
• 1:35:32
  Fist of Fury is still wearing that same red shirt.
• 1:35:36
  He is when he takes off running towards the school and he's
• 1:35:42
  taking these giant leaps. And I love that scene in the
• 1:35:47
  brawl where he sends that North Korean Hulk flying out the
• 1:35:52
  window. Actually, it's not even a Hulk.
• 1:35:54
  It's like a Hulk #4. Yeah, it's more of like the.
• 1:35:58
  I know who you're talking about. Yeah, 'cause he was there.
• 1:36:01
  With the North Koreans, yes, he's wailing on the sun.
• 1:36:05
  And at one point he has torturing him, basically.
• 1:36:07
  The sun up in a chokehold and he's like stepping on the
• 1:36:12
  teacher. Yeah, the PE teacher got in the
• 1:36:16
  fray. Yes, He's trying to help, trying
• 1:36:19
  to help the kids. He's good, yeah.
• 1:36:21
  Yeah, he's a good guy. So then that's where the dad
• 1:36:25
  when he showed up. Oh, oh oh, what a great moment.
• 1:36:31
  And he just starts wailing on this guy, throwing him against
• 1:36:34
  anything and everything. There's a move where damn he,
• 1:36:40
  the guy is laying on the floor. So Dad.
• 1:36:44
  Kicks them up into the air and then punches them back down into
• 1:36:48
  the ground. I was like, damn dude, what's
• 1:36:51
  cool about their powers? Because they all have very
• 1:36:54
  similar powers. They're similar, yeah.
• 1:36:58
  Fist of Fury #2 basically has the same exact powers as Hulk #2
• 1:37:04
  and they do not heal. Right.
• 1:37:08
  So whatever impact and and they're feeling every punch,
• 1:37:12
  everything. Exactly.
• 1:37:15
  They're not impervious to to the pain and to breaking bones and
• 1:37:19
  whatever. They're gonna heal just like any
• 1:37:21
  other person. It takes a long time and they
• 1:37:23
  can die. And they can die.
• 1:37:26
  It's it's just more super strength is really the thing,
• 1:37:29
  yeah. Which is interesting to have
• 1:37:31
  super strength without like having no feeling, no pain or
• 1:37:36
  having no healing ability. Yeah, because that kind of feels
• 1:37:40
  like if I punch a brick wall and I break the brick wall, but I
• 1:37:44
  still feel the fucking brick wall.
• 1:37:46
  You're going to break your arm, yeah.
• 1:37:49
  In multiple places. So great job of breaking down
• 1:37:53
  the brick wall, but you're down for the count, huh?
• 1:37:58
  You're going to be in a cast for a year and a half.
• 1:38:02
  It's it's a very catch 22 of a of a superpower.
• 1:38:08
  But. Anyway, I would say he throws
• 1:38:09
  this guy out the window. It's a deterrent, yes.
• 1:38:12
  Like I can destroy you with a punch, but I don't want.
• 1:38:19
  Right. I don't want to do it because if
• 1:38:22
  not, we'll both be injured. But you're going to, you're
• 1:38:25
  going to be the one that really feels it.
• 1:38:28
  So Hulk #2 sends this guy out the window and when he turns
• 1:38:32
  around his his his son is there, but they cut to him as a child
• 1:38:38
  again, sitting on the floor waiting for him to come back to
• 1:38:41
  the house. Tears.
• 1:38:43
  Tears. That was so well done and
• 1:38:46
  unfair. Yes, it's so manipulative.
• 1:38:51
  It really was. So do we want to OK, so end
• 1:38:56
  game. Yeah, end game.
• 1:38:57
  So let's discuss last couple of episodes because I know we're
• 1:39:00
  starting to run a little long. So OK, so Bong Sook can fly.
• 1:39:07
  Now for real. For real, like he can control
• 1:39:10
  it. Like, I really enjoy that
• 1:39:11
  moment. I really enjoyed the moment
• 1:39:13
  where it's after the gymnasium, after X-23 gets shot, but she
• 1:39:20
  starts to heal and he she's like, go to your mom.
• 1:39:24
  So then he takes off and there's like this inspiring music behind
• 1:39:29
  them as he's like learning how to, you know, maneuver himself
• 1:39:33
  around buildings and everything. And again, sorry for the
• 1:39:37
  comparison. Man of Steel flight when he
• 1:39:40
  flies for the first time that inspiring music that's lifting
• 1:39:44
  him right underneath. I I I was just like damn, this
• 1:39:48
  is good. I love I I love a good like hero
• 1:39:55
  finally masters their power moment.
• 1:39:59
  I love that like they finally get it clicking and the fact
• 1:40:04
  that he's able to get the flying down and now it can match like.
• 1:40:08
  Him with taking on people and stuff like that, it's wonderful.
• 1:40:14
  And he said during the gymnasium fight.
• 1:40:16
  Oh, you take off your, the villain said oh, you take off
• 1:40:19
  your dad. Because the two flying dudes had
• 1:40:22
  a showdown before in North Korea, and he says I take after
• 1:40:27
  my mother. Yeah, man.
• 1:40:31
  Oh my God, Awesome mom's rule. The confession scene.
• 1:40:39
  What do you think of that little confession?
• 1:40:41
  Oh, where The gymnasium like someone that I like and
• 1:40:44
  whatever. And then it's like, wait a
• 1:40:46
  minute. What'd you just say?
• 1:40:47
  What'd you say? Like what do you mean what?
• 1:40:50
  Yeah, you just said something weird.
• 1:40:52
  Yeah, he just said something weird.
• 1:40:56
  Yeah, but then she you said she takes a bullet for him.
• 1:40:58
  She takes a bullet for him in the forearm.
• 1:41:00
  Yeah. Just as her dad did earlier to
• 1:41:03
  protect Bong Sok's mom. And the PE homeroom teacher who
• 1:41:08
  had that, like, was in the past in that whole showdown with the
• 1:41:11
  North Korean soldiers back in the early 2000s, was it?
• 1:41:16
  Yeah, late 90s, early 2000s. So I love that Another full
• 1:41:21
  circle moment. Yeah, because it Speaking of
• 1:41:24
  like the gunshot wound, there's the moment in, I can't remember
• 1:41:28
  what episode, but the dad goes to see this guy about getting
• 1:41:32
  payment and like, the guy tries to act tough to him and then
• 1:41:37
  he's like, then like, he turns on a switch there.
• 1:41:40
  He's like, where's that accent from?
• 1:41:43
  Oh yeah, he and he's like. Clocks him on the accent.
• 1:41:45
  Clocks him and he's like, why are you trying to put on that
• 1:41:48
  accent? Like, why are you trying to be
• 1:41:49
  hard, right. You know, being from that area,
• 1:41:53
  you know, can get you in some trouble right here.
• 1:41:55
  And like he like, turns it on and that's where we where the
• 1:41:59
  guy goes, oh, are those, what are those like on his arm?
• 1:42:02
  And it's like, are those like scars from something.
• 1:42:04
  It's like, those are bullet scars, scars from a bullet.
• 1:42:08
  And he's like, oh wow, like like he got psyched out.
• 1:42:11
  It's big deal because like I said in the ballerina episode,
• 1:42:15
  guns are illegal in Korea. So the fact that somebody's
• 1:42:20
  taking a bullet, Yep, it's a big deal.
• 1:42:23
  It's huge, yeah. So more end game stuff here.
• 1:42:27
  More end game stuff. So, oh Mama Bear, Mama Bear goes
• 1:42:32
  fucking ape shit in school. I love her and she turns on.
• 1:42:37
  Yes, gets that gun. Fierce, yes, sniper, she says to
• 1:42:43
  one of the one of the North Koreans.
• 1:42:46
  I think it was Hulk #4, Fist of Fury #2 that he got sent out the
• 1:42:52
  window. He she says to him.
• 1:42:54
  I'll become a monster anytime if it's to protect my child.
• 1:42:58
  And then shoots him dead, Shoots him dead because he could tell
• 1:43:01
  he's like grabbing like either like a knife or something like
• 1:43:05
  he's grabbing glass like so he could try to get up and move on
• 1:43:09
  her and before he can make the move got him.
• 1:43:15
  The tension throughout that episode or that series of
• 1:43:19
  episodes, especially when people start to show up at the school,
• 1:43:22
  Yes. And you're like, oh, the mom's
• 1:43:24
  there. Oh, what's up with the guard at
• 1:43:26
  the school? Like he's in on it too.
• 1:43:28
  And oh, now Hulk is coming to the school and, oh, the North
• 1:43:34
  Koreans are pulling up and they got another dude in the trunk.
• 1:43:37
  Like, it's just, like progressively upping the ante
• 1:43:41
  each episode. And you're just in one spot.
• 1:43:44
  You're just at the school. Yeah, man.
• 1:43:48
  They do a really good job of getting it.
• 1:43:50
  I was fearful for those last couple episodes because you
• 1:43:55
  know, and I was fearful that we would run into a scenario that
• 1:43:59
  runs into a lot of these superhero movies where the final
• 1:44:01
  act is just punching and just like nonsense.
• 1:44:06
  You can't understand what they're doing type of thing, CGI
• 1:44:10
  fest. And the the show, Well, First
• 1:44:14
  off, it's at night. So they kind of hide themselves
• 1:44:16
  with it, but they don't make it so about punchy, Punchy, you
• 1:44:24
  know, destroying everything. Sure things.
• 1:44:27
  People are punching stuff and each other and a building does
• 1:44:31
  collapse at one point, but it never it's.
• 1:44:34
  A little man of Steely, right? A little.
• 1:44:36
  But it never takes away from, like, the actual story that's
• 1:44:42
  being told between the characters.
• 1:44:44
  So it's never one of those things where I'm just like, I
• 1:44:47
  glazed my eyes or was like, OK, let's see how long like this
• 1:44:51
  takes this entire you're. Getting like a little
• 1:44:52
  desensitized and bored, right? With it.
• 1:44:55
  But no, they it was very they do a good job to keep you in the
• 1:44:59
  moment because you want to see how these characters resolve.
• 1:45:03
  So they do a good job with that. I died with the electricity man,
• 1:45:08
  though, 'cause he does his like, bone care man like thing?
• 1:45:11
  Yep. Like his like, little.
• 1:45:13
  Like what's that called? His moves, yeah, he was like
• 1:45:19
  doing his whole entire choreographing move, charging up
• 1:45:24
  and then finally just unleashing it into the air.
• 1:45:27
  I love it. He blows off this dude's arm.
• 1:45:30
  It's fantastic. It's so good.
• 1:45:32
  No notes so good. So one thing I will say about
• 1:45:36
  Korean shows that kind of throw me off is that the, the big
• 1:45:43
  action sequence happens in basically in episodes 18 and 19
• 1:45:49
  and then in episode 20 is like it almost feels like an epilogue
• 1:45:53
  type of episode. A little bit, yeah, because a
• 1:45:56
  little bit, you're just tying up the loose ends.
• 1:45:59
  Well, some of them, and leaving an, you know, like a a
• 1:46:03
  cliffhanger. Well, not a cliffhanger, but
• 1:46:05
  you're leaving something. Not a cliffhanger, but you're
• 1:46:07
  you're leaving something for the future as well, so.
• 1:46:12
  Did you expect that Chuan Sung was alive and in North Korea
• 1:46:20
  this whole time? Oh man.
• 1:46:24
  For the missing husband, Superman.
• 1:46:26
  Yeah, Superman. Well, when they kept saying like
• 1:46:30
  he's missing, when they were saying he's missing, that clued
• 1:46:35
  me into like, we're going to see him.
• 1:46:38
  I don't know when, but we'll see him.
• 1:46:40
  I didn't expect it to be like in a North Korean prison, but.
• 1:46:44
  But I'm glad that they finally revealed where he was, that he
• 1:46:50
  got reintroduced to the show. It's necessary if, especially if
• 1:46:55
  they're going to do it Season 2. I wanted more from the reunion
• 1:46:59
  scene, personally. That would have been nice.
• 1:47:03
  Bigger moment. It's a big deal.
• 1:47:05
  What's you can tell that Joinsung is a really famous.
• 1:47:10
  Player. Because he doesn't come into the
• 1:47:13
  show until like, episode seven or eight.
• 1:47:14
  Yeah, don't see him, one of my pet peeves, but yes.
• 1:47:18
  And he's missing for large swathes of the show.
• 1:47:21
  And then they bring him in at the end.
• 1:47:24
  It's like, tada, here's the rabbit in the hat.
• 1:47:27
  Yep, it's. It's one of those things where
• 1:47:29
  it's like, all right, we're kind of going over budget.
• 1:47:32
  We're going to have to cut some of your scenes from some of
• 1:47:36
  these episodes here. Right.
• 1:47:37
  It feels a little like Wonder Womany in the cameos that she's
• 1:47:42
  done. We can't use you for the entire
• 1:47:46
  movie. Can't have gal, Can't have her
• 1:47:48
  for the whole thing. Here's a one scene.
• 1:47:52
  That's what it felt like, but otherwise a really, really nice
• 1:47:57
  happy ending. Happy ish.
• 1:47:59
  As happy as they can be. I will say Chuan Sung does have
• 1:48:04
  a fantastic scene where he is trying to assassinate the North
• 1:48:07
  Korean dictator. Yes, like that whole sequence of
• 1:48:11
  him, like flying around. Mm hmm, really?
• 1:48:14
  I was like, I've never seen that before.
• 1:48:18
  You know how many fucking superhero things you've seen,
• 1:48:21
  And I've never seen that. That's the first time.
• 1:48:24
  It's just like a sniper flying around.
• 1:48:26
  Yeah, you don't. Yeah, They were innovative with
• 1:48:29
  stuff. It was.
• 1:48:31
  They were felt innovative. That last episode.
• 1:48:34
  Yeah. Gets us through a couple major
• 1:48:37
  things. One thing that stood out to me
• 1:48:39
  is when what is it the general from North Korea.
• 1:48:45
  It's like did you get the did you get the file and the guy who
• 1:48:49
  lost an arm to because of electricity man, blowing it off
• 1:48:54
  of. Punkin man.
• 1:48:55
  Yeah, you know, he he makes a comment of like, what did the
• 1:49:01
  kids have to do with it? Pretty.
• 1:49:03
  Much right? There's an undercurrent of like
• 1:49:05
  the kids are innocent. Why are we pursuing children?
• 1:49:09
  Right, Exactly. And.
• 1:49:11
  'Cause they're not in this fight.
• 1:49:12
  No, they're not. They're not.
• 1:49:14
  They're not. Trained assassins like their
• 1:49:16
  parents are exactly. And so it culminates to he is
• 1:49:22
  not happy with the what they told him that he needed to do so
• 1:49:28
  with that arm that was blown off, he pops a little a gun out
• 1:49:32
  of it and shoots that general dead right there.
• 1:49:37
  I didn't expect that, no. Neither did I.
• 1:49:40
  It was very Kingsman. I don't know.
• 1:49:43
  Kingsman. Yes, it.
• 1:49:44
  Yes. Yes.
• 1:49:46
  Yeah, manners maketh, man. Yeah.
• 1:49:50
  So yeah, there's some things that stood out, but there's also
• 1:49:53
  things that are going to possibly gives us a Season 2.
• 1:49:56
  Do you think we're going to get a Season 2?
• 1:49:58
  Look, I think it's not out of the question because they've
• 1:50:05
  left so much open. They had post credit scenes like
• 1:50:07
  a real superhero movie and there's loose ends like EU at
• 1:50:12
  the North Koreans or ended up being like the big big bad
• 1:50:18
  organization of the of the show. But you still have the internal
• 1:50:22
  South Korean NIS. That secret part of NIS that's
• 1:50:26
  dealing with the supers and you had that replacement like they
• 1:50:30
  killed the guy they killed that asshole.
• 1:50:33
  Question, May, did I, did I see this wrong?
• 1:50:37
  But did the class president? Yeah, join the NIS.
• 1:50:43
  She did it, was it. Wasn't what are you talking
• 1:50:46
  about? It wasn't my imagination that I
• 1:50:48
  was like seeing her in that final episode and she was like
• 1:50:52
  you, you couldn't do your job or something like that that.
• 1:50:55
  Oh no. It what?
• 1:50:59
  What in the final? Are you talking about what?
• 1:51:02
  No, hold on, Hold on. So you're talking about what
• 1:51:05
  class president? You know, because they look so
• 1:51:09
  similar. Maybe this is me.
• 1:51:10
  I don't. I think.
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  I think I'm. No, you're wrong.
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  You're wrong. I'm looking at them.
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  This is my fault. This is on me.
• 1:51:18
  This is on me. The guy that replaces Yongtun,
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  which is that NIS chief 'cause he gets shot dead by Chun Sung,
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  is Sangu Pak Pyong Gun. That's another very famous actor
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  and he takes the spot of what? What?
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  What's the equivalent of that in the MCU?
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  I don't know Robert Redford. I like if if someone was taking
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  over SHIELD or something. Like that?
• 1:51:52
  Yeah, exactly. But SHIELD is Hydra.
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  No, there was there was a moment I was thinking about a woman.
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  Because I saw a woman. OK, her name is Kwan Hansel.
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  Yeah, and that's not the same as the same person that I saw then.
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  Yeah, I was just being stupid. And no, no it's fine.
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  But the the. Hulk number two son Kangolin
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  does join the NIS. He does.
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  He does get recruited, yes, he does that.
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  I that I definitely remember. He accepts the position.
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  So we still got to deal with that.
• 1:52:31
  We still got to deal with now Bong Sook is a superhero because
• 1:52:38
  he's like flying around the city we've seen another people from.
• 1:52:42
  It's a bird. It's a plane.
• 1:52:44
  It's the yellow man because he's.
• 1:52:47
  Wearing yellow jacket. I know.
• 1:52:49
  So cute. So again, he's like a superhero.
• 1:52:53
  Are we going to deal with that? What the hell is he soo doing?
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  X-23? What's she up to?
• 1:53:00
  Is she just going to school for on a PE major?
• 1:53:05
  Yeah, on a PE scholarship, like what?
• 1:53:08
  What's going on with her? So a lot of different loose ends
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  that. They can come back to you and
• 1:53:15
  tap into. They can easily come back to
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  you. This does feel like the end of a
• 1:53:20
  season one. It does.
• 1:53:21
  It feels like it. But it's so well done.
• 1:53:24
  Yeah, it was very well done because you resolved the main
• 1:53:28
  conflict in the first season, but you leave the, you know, all
• 1:53:33
  the chess pieces are on the board to be able to move forward
• 1:53:37
  with something else. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:53:40
  Well, you watch season two. Yeah, I would watch Season 2.
• 1:53:43
  You're like, yeah, of course, Yeah, I would definitely watch
• 1:53:45
  Season 2. Gosh, OK, Because now we've
• 1:53:50
  already been teased with with a new name of Alliance.
• 1:53:54
  I know Elias, another agent is coming to Korea.
• 1:53:57
  Frank and him got to have a showdown.
• 1:53:58
  Yes, Frank's got to get inducted into the superhero.
• 1:54:01
  Into the superhero society. We got to deal with the US
• 1:54:05
  intervention. We got to deal with maybe North
• 1:54:07
  Korea comes back into the pictures somehow.
• 1:54:10
  Maybe they have their own Superman, you know that.
• 1:54:14
  Well, they had. Well, I mean, is that flying man
• 1:54:17
  going to come back, right? Is he going to come back?
• 1:54:19
  The one armed flying Superman #2 is he going to?
• 1:54:22
  Right? Is he going to play a bigger
• 1:54:24
  part? You know, who knows?
• 1:54:28
  Yeah. So there's questions that can
• 1:54:30
  be. Answered there's right.
• 1:54:32
  Right. There's enough, definitely.
• 1:54:34
  For a Season 2. It's exciting.
• 1:54:37
  It's exciting stuff. I liked it as well.
• 1:54:40
  I would never have thought that I would be like, yeah, I I'm
• 1:54:43
  looking forward to a Season 2. But yeah, genuinely not big on
• 1:54:47
  season twos, especially for Korean dramas.
• 1:54:50
  No, but this is basically a Western show.
• 1:54:53
  Yeah. It, it kind of, it has all the
• 1:54:55
  trappings of one. Yeah.
• 1:54:57
  So, yeah, great. It's so hard to very good show,
• 1:55:01
  Very good show. Very good show and I highly
• 1:55:04
  recommend if you've come this far in the episode.
• 1:55:06
  We've spoiled the whole thing, but go watch it for yourself on
• 1:55:09
  Hulu or Disney Plus wherever you can get a hold of it.
• 1:55:13
  If you're in the States, it should be Hulu.
• 1:55:14
  If you're outside Disney Plus, I don't know, but Rico, that's it.
• 1:55:19
  You've come to the end of the show.
• 1:55:20
  Yes, we have. Thank you for watching movie
• 1:55:23
  with me. Yes, thank you for first
• 1:55:25
  recommending. Watching it and having me on the
• 1:55:28
  show to talk about it was a lot of fun.
• 1:55:30
  Oh, I'm so glad you feel that way.
• 1:55:32
  Well, we're just going to get out of here.
• 1:55:34
  This has been our show. I'm Jessica.
• 1:55:37
  And I'm Rico. This has been the Tivaki Rambles
• 1:55:40
  podcast.