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128: Vanderpump Rules - Dog Days of Summer (S11 E4) · Reality TV Cringe

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Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one of your hosts,
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Delia, and I'm here with my real tied home girl and my daughter
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in law Beatrice. Everybody. We are here to break down and get into
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vander Pump Rules. Now. Of course, last week I was sick.
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Yeah, it was laying in bed, it was crying, and I rolling
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around. It was a terrible week, and so we were not able to
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meet up with y'all and talk about last week's episode of vander Pump Rules.
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But this week we'll do like a little recappy pool of last week's episode.
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Nothing too long. Now, I've already forgotten what happened in that episode.
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There wasn't much. Yeah, and then we'll get into this week. So
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I'm excited about it. I need things to say to you about it,
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Beatrice, are you ready? I got some thoughts? Okay? Good?
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in ed thank you. Now before we get into the episode and talk about
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it. I do know that Tom Sandoval did something extremely stupid this week,
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which we should probably spend a few minutes talking about. This dope cannot keep
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his mouth fucking shut. He's the worst. Oh my god, he's such
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an arc I can't with him. He's got to go on everything in the
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world. Does he think that it's appropriate to say and do the things that
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he says and does. It's crazy to me. So obviously we are referring
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to the New York Times article that came out on Tom Sandoval in which they
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were asking him a bunch of questions, and quite frankly, I didn't read
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the whole article. I just saw the blurb in which he talked or he
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compared the scandal all to OJ Simpson and George Floyd. Why don't you read
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the quote just so yeah, everybody gets on the same page. This is
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specifically what he said. He said, I am not a pop culture historian,
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really, but I witnessed the OJ Simpson thing and George Floyd and all
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these big things, which is really weird to compare this to that, meaning
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his affair to that, I think, but do you think in a weird
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way? It's a little bit the same. So he's equating the affair coverage
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between him and Ariana to that of O. J. Simpson and George Floyd
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because it had the same notoriety. But I'm like, it is, we
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weren't out here protesting for Tom Sandoval or Ariana Maddox, Like what legitimately,
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what are you talking about? My guy? His head is so big,
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Like he thinks he's so fucking famous that he's on the same level as OJ
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Simpson and fucking George Flood. Dude, who's managing him? Like, who's
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your PR person that thinks it's okay to send you out? I don't know,
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unaccompanied to talk to the New York Times, to stay to say stupid
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shit like this. I don't like. He's been on podcasts and made a
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total ass out of himself. I know last year when scandival was happening,
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he went on the Howie Mandel podcast to give his version of what happened.
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And I know that he really pissed off Andy Cohen and Bravo by doing that.
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Really, because I think Bravo prefers to send representatives with you and to
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kind of help you to curate what your message is going to be yes.
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But Tom Sandoval did it all on his own. He embarrassed himself, and
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he continues to embarrass himself. I don't even know how you come up with
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a thought process that gets you to a quote like that. It doesn't make
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any sense to me. It's kind of giving Cody Brown vibes, where like
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the more he says, the dumber he fucking looks, and the more of
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an asshole he looks, like, just shut the fuck up. Yeah,
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you don't have to speak. No, you don't have to be in an
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article, you don't have to be on a podcast. You could just shut
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up. Yeah, nobody wants to hear from you anyway. But then after
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all of this came out about the New York Times article, people were obviously
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mad about it because they found his comments to be very offensive. So then
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he posted a bullshit Instagram apology on his story and he says, my intentions
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behind the comments I made in New York Times magazine were to explain the level
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of national media attention my affair received. The comparison was inappropriate and ignorant.
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I'm incredibly sorry and embarrassed. Okay, there's I mean, I mean,
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I guess I don't get it. I'm you're just covering your ass because you
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look like a dunnest dim wit. Yeah, not just that, but like
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you're you're damaging I think other people. Yeah, and you're you're damaged.
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And also, this is happening during Black History months, and this is a
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time of celebration and where people are focusing on black history and you're invoking these
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two things that happened in our American consciousness. Wow, that has nothing at
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all, whatsoever to do with you, and you're comparing yourself to it,
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and it's just I don't understand the reasoning behind it. It's pretty crazy.
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I mean, like I understand you talking about how crazy this affair got and
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like the coverage and everything. I mean everybody was, Yes, it was
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crazy, it was nutice. Yes, I never even watched VANDR Pump Rules,
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and I knew, yes, what had happened last year when this came
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out, So like, I get it, But at the same time,
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I'm like, why are you comparing it to OJSC to do that? No,
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that's crazy, you know. And my ultimate question is like when is
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it going to be too much for Bravo, Like too much of a liability
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to have somebody like Tom Sandoval who has just a fundamental inability to take real
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responsibility for the things that he does, right, Like, how much more
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is he going to do to give your network a black eye? And how
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much are you going to put up with? Yeah, it really feels like
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there's nothing he can't do, right, and then you're going to try and
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force a redemption arc right the show. It really feels like that, And
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that's what it feels like. And I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna have
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sympathy for him because you made your fucking bed, dude, and you're making
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an ass out of yourself. Still, right, it would speak volumes,
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like I say with Cody Brown, it would speak volumes if you just took
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ownership and took real accountability and responsibility and humbled yourself. But you can't because
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you're a narcissist, just like Cody Brown. So you're just gonna continue being
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dumb. Yep. But I mean it's great for us because it's content.
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It is content. But I mean I'm really I'm just disappointed. Well,
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yeah, I think that's bravo. Yeah no, no, in him,
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oh yeah, and just continuing to give him like platform after platform for him
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to be a complete asshole and really not take any responsibility for the things that
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he's done. I mean, like he does say the words he's like I
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said, I'm sorry, Like, yeah, it's a problem, I shouldn't
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have done it. But and then he starts what about ing and bringing in
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other people like he did with James, like what James did to him ten
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years previously, Like what about that? Like that tell us all that he's
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not actually taking real, authentic accountability for the shit that he has done.
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And like, for example, Arianna, a lot of people are saying Ariana
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seemed very discompassionate when shea was talking to her in the pool party. At
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the pool party when she was talking about you know, Lisa vander Pump telling
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Lala and Sheena that Tom's in a really dark place and obviously referring to potentially
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unliving himself, and Arianna was just like, hmm, yeah, no,
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I don't feel bad for him. And in the after show, she's like,
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you know, he's manipulating and he brought this all on himself, and
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I can, so I can. We can have a conversation about whether that
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approach to how he was feeling at the time is merited or not. But
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at the same time, I'm just like, if you could have just owned
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it for real and spent some time trying to think of how to demonstrate changed
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behavior, like how you could get to a place where you could change your
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behavior and then showing people that, like you wouldn't have this much lack of
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compassion right across the board with your castmates and with America. Oh yeah,
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you would win back your fans and your friend's back. Like you would completely
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change a lot of things to people if you actually took the account, because
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we can tell when it's authentic, and we can tell when it's not authentic
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exactly. So this is just like the Hugest Bungle. I know, it
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was terrible for him. It's so ill timed. People already hate him and
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people are just going to hate him more. Oh yeah, the reddit is
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exploding. People are being like, when are they going to fire Tom Santoval
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from Bravo, Which I mean that's fair, but if TLC can't fire Angela
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or fucking Big Edge or Cody Brown, Yeah, they're not going to fire
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the most toxic characters on the network. They will not fire because they frankly
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bring in ratings. Ye, And honestly, I think a lot of us
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are watching this season Evander Pump Rules because we want to see, like how
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does the friend group emerge after What's But it feels and I was reading on
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Reddit a lot of people saying it just feels like overly produced, overly edited,
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Like is this a Tom sand of all Redemption season? Are we all
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of a sudden supposed to be feeling sorry for him? Which is crazy to
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me? And it does feel like they're setting up Ariana to be a bit
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of a villain, callous, right, and just like looking in the mirror
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and just like, yeah, I don't care about him, I don't care
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about them, Like are you editing it that way so that we start to
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hate Arianna? Yeah, because I don't. So far, I'm like,
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I don't. Well, I never really fully liked Arianna. I still feel
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the same way about her as I always have. But I'm just noticing the
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editing. And I think when you notice the editing on a show, that's
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an issue. Well, in like episode three last week that we missed was
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entitled what was it called, You're Not the Queen of the Group, which
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was directed towards Ariana. So I think they are totally framing this season to
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be like, no, now, let's hate Ariana for being a bitch.
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Yeah, well, I mean I don't. I think she's being bitchy.
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But at the same time, I kind of love that. Yeah, I
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mean, and I think she's entitled to. Yeah, you broke your entire
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life with her. Yeah, you broke the relationship in the worst way.
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You broke her heart. You also did damage to the innocent bystanders in the
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friend group, and you did damage to Raquel as well. You know what
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we're not talking about with Tom Sandeville, by the way, is how he
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recorded Raquel without her knowing while she was doing a sexual act. They were
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face timing. I guess they were like having phone sex, but over face
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time he recorded her. She did not consent, she did not know,
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and that is ultimately what a Ariana found and that's how she discovered the affair.
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But like, how come we're not talking about the non consent issue and
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having that on his phone against her will and or without her knowing it is
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against her will because she has since come out and said, like what happened?
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And I think she gave everybody a cease and desist, So that they
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didn't disseminate that video because she had no idea that it was even a thing.
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Whoa, and why aren't we talking about that this season? Like I
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want to talk about that. Yeah, that would be interesting to know.
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And oh, speaking of Raquel. In the New York Times article, him
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and Raquel are no longer together and he's dating another bitch. Yeah, they
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haven't been together since. I mean, I think at this time in the
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show, Tom is just realizing, oh, I'm not going to hear from
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Raquel ever again. Well, in this most recent episode, he's like,
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I'm saving myself for her, right, I'm still in love with her.
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But then in the New York Times article, you've broken up with her and
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now you're onto another chick. That's wild to me. He is a serial
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dater. He's a fucking narc. He's messed up. He's forty something,
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which I'm just like, forty. I think narcs need a supply, Yeah,
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they do, they need fans. He's insane. He's kind of insane.
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Yeah, yeah, just a really weird wild weekend. I don't know
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how you recover from this, but he's recovered from so many other things that
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I'm not going to be a bit surprised when he does recover from it.
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We just keep it moving. I guess, I guess we'll watch what happens.
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Yes, jeez, well, let's get into the recaps of the show.
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We'll do like a brief recap from last week's episode, because there wasn't
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much that happened. The first thing that happened, and last week's episode was
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Emo night, Shina being cringe as fuck living her pop star dreams right,
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her scream oh good as gold, oh crazy performance, which was which was
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cringey, but they did seem to have a great time. They seem good
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for the fun. And then Sandoval is telling everybody at his birthday party,
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all of his fake friends about what James did. Right. He's like literally
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talking about James, which is kind of funny. And then Sandoval goes to
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Pump where Lisa's closing everything down, and this is where he has a conversation
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with Lisa. She starts calling him out on his behavior, shitty behavior and
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says you need to humble up and you need to accept ownership and responsibility and
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apologize, like and actually meet it. And he's like, oh yeah,
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and I'm down if I do down if I don't, Lisa, and you
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know what, you don't understand a word. It is everybody in the world
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hate you, and I'm having some really dark thoughts, right, And so
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a lot of people think that this was an intentional manipulation on Tom Sandoval's part
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because he knew full well that Lisa vander Pump had lost her brother to suicides,
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and he knew by bringing it up and referencing that that he was going
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to trigger Lisa into hopefully protecting him, which she goes on to do exactly
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that. Now she's on a campaign to talk to everybody else about how they
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need to be taking care of Tom Sandival because he has these dark feelings and
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he was thinking about unliving himself. And I really feel like this requires a
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more nuanced conversation because, as far as I'm concerned, anytime anybody says that
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they're feeling like that, or that they're struggling with desires or ideations in that
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regard, like you got to drop absolutely everything and pay attention to that person.
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Could it be a manipulation? Absolutely? But are we taking a chance.
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No, we're not gonna do that. We're gonna listen and we're gonna
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be there and we're gonna get them help if we can. Right. So
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I think that Lisa did the right thing to like perk up and to listen
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to Tom. But the way Tom was acting in that conversation so petulant and
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like he was having a tantrum and he's whining. That makes me feel like
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it's a manipulation and it's a performance. Yeah. And then in that episode
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it was revealed that when he was doing his whole rock star dream before he
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went to New Zealand to film his dumb reality show, and he was performing
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at all these places, he was singing songs, talking shit about Schwartz,
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talking shit about Arianna. And so I'm like, Okay, you said that
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you went on all of these performances because you needed money because you were so
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broke after everything broke out, like after scandal happened. You were losing all
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these brand deals and all this stuff, so you needed to make money.
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But you were going out and doing that and then still talking shit about the
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people that you hurt and deeply affected, and then you want us to feel
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bad for you. Like I have a hard time with that, Like I
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don't want I want to be careful here, because I don't want to invalidate
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somebody's really dark feelings. And as somebody who's dealt with deep depression in my
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past, and I've dealt with these same ideations and thoughts of unliving myself,
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Like I get it, but there's something about it that feels ingenuine disingenuous to
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me, and I don't want again, Like I don't want to invalidate his
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feelings and him being sad, And I get that, but at the same
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time, it's like, you feel this way because of your actions, and
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this is the consequences of your actions of losing all of your friends, losing
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your life, like not losing your life, but you know what I mean,
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like losing a life that you had built for yourself. Yeah, using
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all your money and stuff like that. So like that, I mean,
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that's just the consequences of it. And every time I watched this show,
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every episode, I look at Tom Santoval, and I'm like, I see
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somebody who's deeply extroverted, Like he gets all of his energy and his life
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force from everybody around him. And I know that he's a narcissist too,
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but like he thrives on having friendships and having people like him and adore him,
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and so to have everybody hate him in the world. Yeah, that's
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incredibly devastating. Of course it would be. I wonder is it like,
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if you're a narcissist and you get off on the energetic supply, does it
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make that much of a difference whether it's positive or negative, Like, if
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it's still directed at him, does he feel like in his spirit that he's
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winning? Do you know what I mean? Oh? Like the negative?
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Yeah, because like coming out with this quote from this week equating himself to
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what happened to George Floyd, which is obviously a terrible negative thing that happened.
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Yeah, Like it's still attention though, he's still likening himself to something
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like that. I feel like he still gets off, whether it's good or
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whether it's bad. I think he's proud that he caused such a scandals our
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American consciousness. Yes, I think he's proud, and he feels like a
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celebrity, he feels like a rock star. I mean, that's an interesting
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take. And maybe he's so dumb that he thinks like all of these bad
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takes that he has will go over well, and then when they don't,
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and he gets more hate. He's like, oh fuck now I gotta fucking
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fake apologize again and pretend like I actually care about other people's feelings. Yeah,
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it's kind of interesting. He's kind of an interesting person, not like
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I like him, but just no, yeah, fascining to observe and yeah
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yeah and to check out. And I really feel like in this scene with
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Lisa vander Pump, he's working her. Oh, he's working her. And
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I think he worked her last season when he was talking to her and he's
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crying at the window like that also felt like a big performance and a big
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work. So yeah, which is really sad because you should not invoke that
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kind of depression trauma and feelings that so many people can relate to just to
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get yourself out of something. Oh for sure. And I mean I like
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that Lisa is caring about him, like I think that shows her character.
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I don't think she's doing it in like an evil, manipulative way. I
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mean, I again, like I don't watch all of the episodes, all
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the episodes and seasons of this show. I haven't seen her on Housewives or
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anything. Because I know some people on Reddit or talking some mad shit about
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Lisa vander Pump, right, they're not liking her right now, But I
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mean, I think it shows her character, like she does care about these
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people as human beings, and so that's a good thing. But I'm just
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like, I think she did the right thing in the moment, because whether
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she believed him or not, she stopped everything, she listened, and she
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tried to take care of the situation. I think that's just what you have
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to do when somebody says something like that. Sure, but the reason Lisa
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vander Pump is getting so much criticism is because it does feel like it does
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appear that she makes excuses for the boys in the group, for example,
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James, who's just taken part in so much batter behavior toward other people toward
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himself, but like she's made excuses and time and time again, she's given
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him chance after chance. She did it with Jack's, she's doing it now
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with Tom. I mean, she gave this business opportunity to Tom and Tom
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to open a bar with them called Tom. Tom. Shouldn't do that with
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Stossy. She didn't do that with Katie, shouldn't do that with any of
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the other girls. So there's just kind of like this feeling with some of
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the people in the audience, like, well, how come you're always writing
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so hard for the dudes, but you're not showing up in the same way
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for the women. Oh that's interesting. I didn't know that. Yeah,
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big, yikes, don't. I mean, I think that's a fair critique.
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I mean, yeah, for sure, if that's what's been happening.
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And then the last thing that happened in last episode was everybody went to sir
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and Schwartz showed up. Sandoval was there, all the girls were there.
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But the biggest thing was the issue with Schwartz and the girls, because the
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girls were calling out Schwartz for playing both teams essentially and still sucking Tom Sandoval's
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dick and m and still liking him as a person, and they're like,
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why right, Well, so Schwartz is inviting everybody to Tahoe. Yeah,
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after a conversation that he has with Lisa vander Pumps. So he's inviting the
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women there. He's inviting everybody there, and he's telling them and I'm also
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going to be inviting Tom Sandoval. And this is where Ariana is just like,
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yeah, I'm absolutely like, you're a piece of shit, and I'm
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not gonna be around anybody that's around my ex and you know, you're losing
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everybody's vote of confidence because you're stuck in this guy's dick and I'm paraprizing obviously.
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But she calls him out, and I think Laala calls him out as
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well. And this is where Tom Schwartz says, well, you're not the
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queen of the group, Like you're not the one who says where we go
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and what we do. Like I can extend this invitation and you don't have
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to go or whatever, but like you can't stop anybody else from wanting to
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hang out with us Ariana. Yeah, and Ariana was also kind of talking
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for the girls too. That's why it was like, you know, you
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don't speak for everybody, and everybody at the table, at the table Katie
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and Lala and they're like, well, well we feel the same way she
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does. Yeah, like it's fine. Well, but they end up going
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though, right, they're going to go to Tahoe. I think this is
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in the next episode. Yeah, so she doesn't speak for them in that
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way, right, But he also called out her ego and in the after
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show he kind of went on to just talk about how it was around this
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time. You know, Arianna's attitude is starting to change as far as Tom
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Schwartz is concerned, and she's starting to be a bit more bitchy and her
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ego is starting to come out, and he in that moment, he's just
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like, I don't like it, and so I'm calling it out. Wow.
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Did you think she was egotistical in that conversation? Not in that conversation,
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No, I don't think so. I think she was calling him out
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for what he is because I was getting kind of annoyed with Schwartz because I'm
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like, literally the episode prior to this, you were talking about how much
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Sandoval fucked you over with Schwartz and Sandy's and how you were feeling resentful for
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him and everything. And I know he apologized, but then you're immediately just
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like, yeah, we're I'm going to invite him to Tahoe and everybody should
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just be fine with it. Yeah, I'm just like, I don't know,
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and you've told me about how he kind of goes back and forth and
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he kind of like plays all sides of it and everybody kind of gets annoyed
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with him. Well, in his marriage with Katie, he was forever constantly
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doing that, right, going back and forth between Katie and Tom, and
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his ultimate allegiance was absolutely, hands down Tom Sandoval, and that's why he
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lost his marriage to Katie, because at the end of the day, he
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is a ride or die for Tom Sandoval. I just can't stand Tom's simpering
23:30
affect, like he's trying to play this okey dokey kind of good old boy
23:37
or whatever, like I'm just a nice person here, I'm bringing you a
23:40
plant Ali and James and trying to pretend he's not actually really toxic af Yeah,
23:45
Like if you watch the whole season last year, you did, right,
23:48
I did, so you saw them when they're in Mexico and how he
23:51
goads her and how he talks to her and talks down to her. But
23:53
he does it with this fucked up affect like he's a good person, like
23:59
he's a nice guy. He's not a nice guy. And I think Arianna
24:03
has his number. At the same time, I think maybe she was also
24:04
a little bit presumptuous, like you don't speak for everybody. If this is
24:08
how you feel, then tell us how you feel. Yeah, But at
24:11
the end of the day, she is gonna end up going to Tahoe.
24:14
Lala's going to go to Tahoe, and everybody else is going to go accept
24:17
you and Katie. Yeah, which this is I think the divide we're going
24:21
to start to see in this friend group, like Ariana and Katy versus everybody
24:23
else. Yes, I think so interesting. The other thing that happened last
24:29
episode was they showed a montage of Schwartz and Sandoval kissing from a prior season
24:33
And I just want to reiterate my gay conspiracy theory, which is that they
24:37
probably hooked up with time or two in the past. I'm just saying,
24:41
I don't think they hooked up. Has never been wrong. Tom and Tom,
24:48
those two together, girl, they must have experimented a time or two.
24:52
They all get drunk all this this friend group gets drunk. If Lala
24:56
can fuck James, okay, I think an things fucking possible. Okay,
25:02
I bet I bet you Schwartz was sucking Tom's dick. Oh my serious,
25:07
make it stop. I don't even want to think that's my gay conspiracy.
25:11
If you get offended by it, Maybe that's why Tom is such a ride
25:15
or die for Tom's handball. Maybe that's what's happening. I don't know.
25:18
It doesn't make sense to anybody else but them because they got a gay love
25:22
affair. They're in love. Maybe in love. We'll just come out with
25:26
it then, I mean, okay, let's do it so great, Oh
25:32
my god, you would love that. I would love that. All right,
25:34
So let's get to this week's episode. Okay, it's called Dog Days
25:37
of Summer, all right. And we start with James and Allie getting ready
25:41
to host a pool party at their house. And while they're doing that,
25:45
La La and Sheena go over to Lisa vander Pump's mc mansion Hills. It's
25:52
not a McMansion, it is a actual mansion. It is you. It
25:56
is a huge spread, gorgeous, so rich with lands and miniature ponies and
26:04
crystals and Pomeranians everywhere. It's a gorgeous home. Yep, absolutely gorgeous.
26:11
And so they go to talk to Lisa vander Pump and Lisa is like telling
26:15
them, Hey, I just had a conversation with Tom Sandibal and I'm really
26:18
worried about him because he's talking about thoughts of unliving himself and you know,
26:22
my brother and I just want everybody to be nice to him, and Lala
26:26
and Shea are kind of hesitant towards it, but Lisa vander Pump ultimately convinces
26:30
them like, no, we should all be a little bit nicer to Tom
26:33
Sandival, and so Lala and Sena go over to Italian James's house for the
26:40
pool party. Before we get there, let's talk about whether we think Lisa
26:45
did the right thing by having this conversation with Sheena and Laala, Like,
26:49
because in the after show, Arianna says something like, Yeah, I don't
26:53
think it's right to put his mental state onto these two girls that have nothing
27:00
to do with his mental state. They didn't contribute to what led him into
27:03
this mental state, and so putting the responsibility of taking care of him onto
27:08
these two bystanders isn't really fair to do to somebody. Yeah, I would
27:12
agree with that perspective. However, last episode, Sandoval was telling Lisa that
27:18
the reason why he was having these dark thoughts was partially because of Sheena's podcast
27:22
and Laala selling the merch for Tom Sandoval and stuff like that, which I'm
27:27
just like, Yeah, should the girls have been selling merch and profiting off
27:30
of his misses? Yes, they're part of the show. I mean,
27:34
yeah, they're part of the group. They should and you know what,
27:37
if it had been the other way around, Tom would have profited off of
27:41
them. Oh yeah, totally. He would have been selling shit. He
27:45
would have been singing about it. I mean, he was singing about it
27:48
apparently on his tour after all this stuff broke out. So yeah, that's
27:52
probably why Lisa brought it up to them though. I was like, yeah,
27:53
you guys have been a little hard on him. Yeah, so it
27:56
sounds like she doesn't necessarily want them to be friends at the same level,
28:03
but if they could just stop their attacks on him, and maybe that refers
28:06
to what they're saying in their podcast or what they're doing like on the side,
28:08
I don't know, and I think that I again, when you're talking
28:14
about the nuance of it all, like I can understand what Lisa is actually
28:18
saying. And I think if you do know that somebody is in that mental
28:23
head space and that you might be with your actions contributing to that, then
28:30
I mean you should know that and you should think about how you want to
28:33
conduct yourself and really think about what might happen as a result of that.
28:38
I mean, I think that was good to have the conversation, But I
28:41
also kind of side with Ariana, like you can't really put all of that
28:44
on them and put the responsibility of his mental health on them. Yeah,
28:48
And are we putting the same amount of responsibility onto Tom Sandoval for taking actual
28:53
ownership of the shit that he's done and finding ways to change and demonstrating that
28:57
change to the group, Like are we having those conversations though? Are we
29:00
just like assuaging and making him feel better because he's crying again because he's dead,
29:07
right right? I agree completely with that perspective honestly, because I mean,
29:12
yeah, he's going to be sad, he's going to be devastated,
29:15
his whole life changed. But again, like it's all because of your shit,
29:19
like you did it to yourself. And then we had Sandoval. While
29:25
everybody's waiting to go to the pool party, Sandoval's going cold plunging with his
29:29
fake friend Billy who I guess has been on prior seasons. Yes, people
29:33
on Reddit are talking about how they hate her. Yeah, nobody likes Billy
29:36
Lee and they didn't really like her when she was actually on the show probably
29:40
what three four five years ago? Why I think she was a hostess for
29:44
a little while. I don't really know why people don't like Billy Lee other
29:48
than she comes across currently certainly as a clout goblin, like she's inserting herself
29:56
into frames and scenes while Tom is doing the coal plan and she's just sitting
30:00
there looking at him. I'm like, what are you doing in the room?
30:03
What are you doing right now? It's weird and it's creepy. It's
30:04
getting creepy. Yeah, and she was kind of staring at him with these
30:07
big eyes, and I'm just like, what is wrong with you? Just
30:11
hi? Tom? Yeah, she might be in love with him. I'm
30:15
not sure. The rumor is shed on her pod. Yes, the rumor
30:19
is that Tom Sandoval and Billy Lee may have had a physical relationship in the
30:26
past. I'm not sure if that was when he was with Ariana or not.
30:30
Who knows, But I mean I can kind of see it when she's
30:32
sitting there next to the bath and just staring at him and trying so hard
30:36
to be in the shot. I'm just like, Jesus Christ, it's really
30:38
crazy. Oh and then I saw a TikTok of her on the Reddit.
30:42
Did you see this? So she's got a TikTok. I guess she has
30:45
a comedy channel and she's talking about being trans, and so I'm trans.
30:49
Of course I do X, Y and Z, which is the current TikTok
30:52
trade. But everything she's doing is in Tom's house. So she's in his
30:56
kitchen, she's in the laundry room, she's in his backyard, but she's
31:00
acting in the TikTok like it's her own house and she lives there. Oh
31:06
that's fuck. It's giving me stock er, it's giving weird enmeshment. My
31:11
god, that is a weird. Maybe they are hooking up on the side,
31:14
maybe. I mean, if Tom's a serial dater and cheater, it
31:17
sounds like he's got a pattern of doing that. If he's dating this new
31:18
bitch, what if he's cheating on her with Billy. Oh I don't know.
31:22
Oh my god. The only thing that came out of that stupid,
31:25
cold plunging scene was that they were talking about Raquel, And this is where
31:29
Sandabal is saying, yeah, I really miss Raquel. I'm in love with
31:32
her. Like we just had such a really good connection. And it wasn't
31:36
even just about the sex. We just hung out a lot. It was
31:38
really great, and I'm saving myself for her. Yeah, And so I
31:41
don't believe that. I think in Tom's mind, he's thinking it is going
31:47
to be so awesome when Raquel comes back to the show and we're gonna have
31:51
all of this drama and it's gonna be me and Raquel and Schwartz against the
31:53
world. And he's waiting for his ally to return. He doesn't know yet
31:57
that she's never gonna talk to him again. They're never going to be together
32:01
ever ever. So I feel like I feel like he's just waiting for her
32:07
to come back so that he can change the dynamic in the show and in
32:10
the group, Yeah, to kind of further deflect the attention off of him.
32:14
I don't think it's real love yet. No, I don't think that
32:15
he loves this girl way. How can it be real love if it's the
32:21
foundation is just lies and bullshit? Absolutely crazy. Then we get to the
32:25
actual pool party, Laala and Ali talk a little bit about James's sobriety because
32:31
Laala is like trying to fish for information about it. It's kind of weird.
32:36
She's like asking Ali, like, what was his rock bottom moment that
32:38
got him sober and She's like, you're gonna have to ask him. Yeah,
32:42
I'm not going to tell you that that's private information. And plus I
32:45
can see the camera that's pointed right at my face and I'm in a relationship
32:47
with this person. Yeah, what did you think of the question? I
32:52
thought it was kind of weird. I'm like, why is she asking?
32:53
Like I know Laala is sober herself, and I know Lala and James have
32:57
kind of a friendship, like a deep connection or something, as she calls
33:00
it, weird, But I just think it's like, why are you asking?
33:04
Why are you asking? Ali? Because I think Laala's entire identity is
33:08
her sobriety and the breakup of her relationship with Randall Emmett. I feel like
33:14
she doesn't have anything else and she wants to be the patron saint of sobriety,
33:19
which is why she also says things like yeah, I don't buy your
33:22
you know, California sobriety or your sober curious stance, Like she's always got
33:28
something critical to say about what sobriety is, and so I just feel like
33:30
she's furthering this identity that she continues to try and cultivate of herself, and
33:37
I'm like, I'm bored. That's crazy. I get it. You're sober,
33:38
that's great. Yeah, we have to talk about it every season?
33:42
I know. Are we going to talk about it every episode too? And
33:45
nothing is more like of a drag than somebody who gets sober and then calls
33:49
everybody else alcoholics right and puts everybody down for taking their inventory right every time
33:54
they meet. It's like, oh God, when you were the one with
33:58
the problem, right, you're judging everybody else for having some wine, okay.
34:01
And then Sheena tells Arianna in the pool about her and Laala's conversation with
34:08
Lisa vander Pump, and Arianna's kind of like, the fuck right, you
34:14
want us to have zipathy for Sandoval, really, bitch, And she just
34:17
like, well, Lisa vander Pump has a point, maybe we should be
34:22
nice. It felt to me like Sheena was coming into that interaction hoping that
34:27
they would stop whatever they were talking about and begin to validate her feelings about
34:32
how this impacts her life, how Tom's suicidal ideation affects her, and how
34:38
she feels about her own life, and they're just like not giving her the
34:43
time of day. Arianna immediately was just like shaking her head. No,
34:46
She's like, yeah, this feels like a manipulation. And in the after
34:50
show she's like, well, I guess it's really important to you that you're
34:53
liked by somebody who's actually told you to your face that you suck and that
34:57
they never liked you. Yeah, she's like, I guess that's so important.
35:00
It must really suck. I guess Sina this whole episode, I'm like,
35:04
everything she relates it back to her. Yes, as you can really
35:07
see it. Does she do that every season? I think she must have
35:10
done quite a bit of it. I don't know. I always really liked
35:14
her because she was an underdog, especially when the mean girls were around,
35:17
the Stosces, the Christens, the Katies, like it was always them against
35:22
Shena, and so I was rooting for Shena. But yeah, she's always
35:23
been vapid, she's always been narcissistic. It's always been about her. It's
35:29
crazy she continues to make scandaval about her nana. Now she's making Tom Sandoval's
35:36
dark emotional state about her, because in the after show she does talk about
35:39
how she did lose one of her own friends to suicide, which is very
35:45
sad and so how this is kind of bringing up in her all of these
35:47
feelings. And I think that's kind of what she wanted to talk about in
35:51
the pool, but she really couldn't even get that out because immediately Ariana and
35:54
Katie are like, we don't care. No, I do not care about
35:58
that guy. He brought it all upon himself and he can just suck my
36:00
dad and don't care. I think Arianna literally says, like he didn't care
36:05
about anybody else's mental health when he was doing all of the shit that he
36:08
was doing, so why should we care. That's what Ariana literally says.
36:12
I'm like, and that's that's kind of cold. Okay, So at this
36:15
so two things can be true at the same time, Like that's kind of
36:19
cold, Like, Ariana, you've just heard that maybe this man that you've
36:22
spent nine years with and purported to love might be having some deep compelling thoughts
36:27
of unliving himself. Like maybe take a breath and think about that before you
36:31
say something. She is so over she is just like, I don't give
36:36
a fucking shit. Oh, speaking of which, sidebar. So also another
36:40
thing that Tom Sandoval said in the article, I think it was in the
36:44
article. Was that the night that Arianna found out about his affair with Raquel,
36:50
which, by the way, again was in the phone because he had
36:52
recorded her surreptitiously. Yeah, and she was at one of his rock concert
36:55
shows. She had his phone, had an intuition and went into it and
37:00
saw it. Okay, that night, according to Tom, she beat the
37:05
shit out of him, like was physically like physically hit him, punched him,
37:10
caused him to bleed and such like. He says, she beat the
37:15
shit out of me, which people then said, well, I think you
37:20
were filmed the very next day and there was like no marks on you,
37:22
like did she really do it? But Arianna actually references I think in the
37:28
after show the lift driver, yes, who was taking her home was actually
37:34
the same lift driver who took her home that night that she found out about
37:37
the affair. Yeah. She was talking about that with Katie before the pool
37:39
party and she was like, Oh my god, does this lyft driver not
37:43
even realize how many people would want to talk to him because he recognized her
37:46
and said, oh, I recognize his house. I brought you and your
37:50
husband and you guys were fucking fighting in the back. Oh my god.
37:53
I loved it. And that's the same night Tom saying she was beating the
37:57
shit out of him. Do we think she put her hands on Tom sound
38:00
of all? I mean maybe maybe, Like did she do enough damage to
38:02
hurt him? I don't know. I don't think she hurt him. But
38:07
he's kind of going on a bit of a smear campaign, like he's really
38:12
invested in bringing down Ariana. And I'm sorry, but that's a horrible fucking
38:17
look. Like I don't trust what you say. If you're immediately trying to
38:22
bash your ex girlfriend to take the heat off of you, because you're a
38:27
cheating asshole, right, Like, I'm sorry, I would take it.
38:30
I would take it more seriously if you have been humble this whole entire time
38:36
and had been apologizing profusely and taking ownership and responsibility for your part, then
38:40
maybe I would listen to you talk about the dynamics of your guys' relationship,
38:45
how toxic it may have been, how she acted towards you. Then maybe
38:47
I'd be like, Okay, right, I mean, I can understand it,
38:52
but yeah, you're not doing that. You're just smearing her to take
38:55
the heat off of you. So that's where I'm like, that is a
38:58
really good point, because I honestly feel like he has valid complaints concerning their
39:02
relationship. I do believe that they were probably not having a lot of sex.
39:07
I do believe that Arianna and her resting bitch face was probably pretty stink
39:13
to him from time to time and talk down to him. I do believe
39:15
they weren't happy and that that was showing up in the relationship. But you
39:20
invalidate any argument you have, Yeah, you invalidate any position you have when
39:24
you then go on to act such a fool. Nobody's listening to you.
39:28
All we can see is the shit you're doing right now in front of us.
39:30
Yep, and you look like a dick. You're in absolute dope.
39:34
Yeah. And it's one year later and you're still You're on the New York
39:37
Times being an absolute ignoramus, a dumbass. Honestly, I can't with him.
39:43
And then after the pool party, like the day or two after,
39:46
James ends up going to La LA's house, and this is where he talks
39:50
more about his sobriety because La LA's like, I feel like we have such
39:52
a special connection because I sat on his face and we both got sober,
39:58
and we both were insane drunks before, and so you know, I just
40:00
want to encourage him in his sobriety, which is good. That's a good
40:04
thing. Yeah. I think her concern for James is legitimate, like she
40:07
wants him to be healthy and successful. But again, I think she is
40:14
projecting a lot of her own stuff and her own worry for herself onto him
40:19
and actually onto everybody right now. Yeah, totally, she's projecting onto everybody.
40:22
She's projecting onto Ariana because in the after show she was also critical of
40:27
Ariana, was she Yeah, she's critical of Ariana for still living in the
40:31
house with Tom, and so like, how are you going to tell me
40:35
I can't go to Tahoe? And like, there's this line in this sand
40:37
and if you're friends with Tom, then I don't want to be your friend,
40:40
but you're still living in the same house with him. I mean,
40:44
she's got a point, yeah, Lala, But Lala is seeing her own
40:46
situation. She is in Ariana situation because Lala had to move out of the
40:51
house. She got her own place, so her situation is similar, but
40:54
it's completely different. But she can't see clearly in these types of conversations,
41:00
so she's seeing herself in James. MM. Well, I mean, I
41:04
guess it's interesting, but I'm like, you shouldn't be putting so much on
41:07
him. While he's like newly sober, Like he's only been three months sober,
41:10
he's still smoking a lot of weed, So I mean, that's one
41:14
thing. But he does talk about the reason why he got sober this time,
41:17
because last time he got sober, he was sober for two years because
41:21
Raquel issued him an ultimatum when they were dating, and so he started drinking
41:24
again because he felt like that wasn't a good enough reason to be sober,
41:30
which I'm like, kind of debatable. But he started drinking again, and
41:35
I guess him and Ali got in a bunch of fights, yes, after
41:38
scannabal happened, and one in particular, one fight in particular was so bad
41:43
she left and went and stayed at her mom's house or something right with her
41:47
nights, yeah, with her animals. And that was where he kind of
41:51
hit rock bottom and realized, oh fuck, maybe I should get sober.
41:53
But he says this decision now is for him. I don't think so.
41:57
This decision sounds like it's once again for the woman in his life was giving
42:00
him an ultimatum and putting her foot down. If it weren't for Ali,
42:04
if he were single again, I think personally, James would be drinking again
42:07
totally. I think he's got a party mindset. He's still smoking weed,
42:12
he's still drinking weed, sodas, He's still looking to be high all the
42:16
time. He's still a problem And I have to say, like when Raquel
42:22
gave him the ultimatum, let's not forget that there are these allegations out at
42:25
the same time of James being physically abusive. And remember when Raquel had to
42:30
get her nose job done again because James tapped it? Yeah or whatever?
42:37
Like did he tap it or was there something physical going on? Is that
42:39
the reason he decided to get sober, because she's like, I can't stay
42:42
with you. Yeah, keep putting your hands on me. You're acting crazy,
42:45
Like, I don't know. I think James is a problem case,
42:49
and I don't think he's accepting how much he needs to be sober. Yeah,
42:52
I'm a little worried about him because I kind of liked him in season
42:57
ten. I mean I still kind of like him now. I feel like
42:59
him and you have a cute relationship. I think she's good for him.
43:01
I think she's got like a good energy for him, and she could actually
43:06
be like like a really positive, like balancing force for him if he is
43:12
willing to actually like put in the work and stop being a piece of shit
43:15
and stop being a drunk piece of shit. But that puts a lot of
43:20
pressure on Ali. I don't want to put that pressure on her. I
43:22
think she's a great girl. I think she's really cool. She's making the
43:25
choice to be with him, she is, she obviously sees something good,
43:28
loves him. She's I don't know if she's investing in this house with him,
43:31
if he bought it or whether they purchased it together, but like they're
43:35
together now, Yeah, and this is one of her stipulations and he is
43:38
adhering to it for now. Yeah. I hope he actually means it when
43:42
he says to Lala, like it's gonna be forever. Yeah, No,
43:45
he doesn't mean it. I'm telling you right now, James is a piece
43:47
of shit that makes a piece of shit, and he's a party boy.
43:51
And if anything happens in his relationship with Ali, he's going right back to
43:54
drinking. I hope not. So then we have Sandoval going over to Schwartz's
43:59
how and this is like kind of a brief scene Schwartz is getting his haircut
44:04
from some Rando Girls show or whatever. Well that was interesting though, because
44:07
last season it was rumored that Schwartz was actually with Joe. Now he had
44:13
just separated from Katie, but they were still married. I think Katie made
44:15
a post on Instagram calling Joe a weirdo or a creep. So there is
44:22
just some rumors out there saying that they've actually been together, although Tom Schwartz
44:28
denies that, but I don't know. Yeah, he says they're just bros,
44:30
they're friends. Tom Schwartz is a liar. Yeah, he is a
44:35
bit of a liar. But the whole reason why Schwartz goes over or no,
44:37
Santaval comes over to Schwartz's house is so Schwartz can invite Sandoval to Tahoe,
44:44
and Sandoval is like, sweet, I have friends, I'll go to
44:47
Tahoe. And that's pretty much it. But Schwartz does call Santoval out and
44:52
says you need to leave your fucking ego at hold, because he immediately starts
44:57
talking about La La and Sheena. Yeah, and the shit that they did
45:01
that pissed him off, which again is them going on their respective podcast and
45:06
talking mad shit about him, and he's like still pissed about it. I
45:08
know how they profited off him, so he's still not even thinking in his
45:13
own best interest. Like, honestly, I understand why he would be upset
45:16
that they completely exploited the fuck out of his situation. Again, I think
45:21
he would have done the same if the roles were reversed. But I can
45:23
understand him feeling that way. But it's like not the time or the place
45:28
right now to go to Tahoe, which it feels like he's setting up to
45:30
do. Oh yes, go to Tahoe and then start fighting with these girls
45:34
about their part and how they acted badly. He's just like so incapable.
45:39
I'm just shutting the fuck up, yes, and being humble and just being
45:43
like you know what, you guys are all right, Like I'm really sorry.
45:45
I just want to be here with you guys. I just want to
45:46
have a nice time. He can't do it, No, he can't.
45:50
And I think he literally says to Schwartz, like they don't know what they've
45:52
done to me. And Schwartz cuts him off and is like, stop,
45:55
this is a bad you need to stock right, Like, I'm literally trying
45:59
to be bro for you and help you out with your fucking image, and
46:02
you just keep ruining it because you got such a big ego. What was
46:07
his sign again? I forget? I was just I was just trying to
46:08
remember, like cancer or something. I don't I don't remember what. Let's
46:13
take a posy look it up. He's a cancer. He is a can
46:16
Aquarious moon though, Aquarius moon. But that's so intriguing and cool, that's
46:22
right. I remember being stupefied by his zodiac. Yeah, but Aquarius is
46:27
a fixed sign, so it can be very fucking stubborn, just like a
46:30
Torus, just like a Leo. How dare you? I'm just saying we're
46:32
both fixed? But he's a cancer. I always just feel like cancers are
46:37
just hearts with hands and feet walking. You hate cancers? Oh why?
46:43
I mean no offence to any cancer listeners. I think it's because I'm a
46:45
Leo. So I'm like, cancers are just so emotional. Water signs in
46:50
general are just like so somt God forbid, somebody feels something, be it.
46:54
I mean I feel too, do you. Yeah, you're an automaton.
46:58
I feel I've got big but like, calm down a little bit.
47:01
Well, I'm wondering if Tom sound of all is shadow cancer, Like he's
47:06
using his emotions as a fucking weapon. Yeah, trying to be like toxic,
47:10
totally emotional weaponry. Yeah, yeah, that's what it feels like to
47:15
me. It doesn't feel real no with him at all. I wonder what
47:17
his rising is. I'd have to figure out what he's rising to know what
47:20
his rising is, because that's who he really is, totally. Yeah.
47:22
Probably a fucking saj or, a fucking scorpio. Probably something fucking crazy.
47:28
My husband's a scorpio. Your wife's is sad. Yeah, but we love
47:30
him, we do, of course anyway, And then we have a weird
47:34
scene with Shena and Brock going on a double date with James and Ali.
47:37
How do to hate Brock? I know he's kind of a dope. I
47:39
mean, he doesn't do anything, he's really innocuous, he seems pretty neutral,
47:44
but yeah, it's the clout goblinness of it all, and just like
47:47
forcing himself into scenes like Billy Lee, Like I'm like, why are you
47:51
here? What are you adding to this whole situation, like, get off
47:53
my screen, besides making your wife feel bad for having anxiety about leaving her
47:59
child with strangers and yelling at her in front of other people. And also
48:04
America, what a dope. I don't like him at all. I don't
48:07
like him either. But the whole scene, this whole scene was just about
48:09
Sena talking to James and Alley about being nicer to Santival because Santaval's mental health
48:15
right. And then the last scene, which is like the best scene in
48:21
my opinion of this episode, which was James going over to some dogs Salont
48:25
Does Lisa vander Pump own a dog's list? It's called vander Pump Dogs.
48:30
Like Lisa vander Pump loves animals and she's got like mini ponies and she's got
48:36
dogg os. She loves animals. She's very charitable toward animals. Great,
48:39
so she opened her own vander Pump Dogs and she does really have a heart
48:44
in this way, I was wondering. And so Raquel and James got a
48:47
dog together named Graham, who's a little golden Graham Cracker. And when they
48:53
broke up, Raquel took Graham and ultimately would not let James see or be
48:59
around Graham. And what ended up happening, I guess is when she went
49:02
to rehab for her mental health due to scandival, I think she surrendered the
49:07
dog, or maybe she gave the dog to her family and then the dog
49:12
bits somebody and so then maybe the family called the rescue or I don't even
49:16
remember. I don't know if what they're telling us right now is actually accurate,
49:21
but somehow or another, I do think Graham was gonna end up at
49:23
the pound. Yes, like at the pound, which is fucked up to
49:29
me. I'm like, that's really sad that Raquel takes this fucking dog who
49:32
she knows James was like super attached to and loved. He doesn't stop talking
49:37
about Graham Cracker, right, I mean every episode, I swear to God,
49:39
he's like, I miss Graham Cracker. And she takes this dog and
49:44
then gives it to her family, and then the family just gives it away
49:46
to a fucking foster home, and then the foster home is gonna put him
49:50
in a pound, like nobody thought to just contact James and MILLI, Kay,
49:52
do you want to take Graham Cracker? Yeah? That sounds very petty
49:55
and punitive. Hella could have literally just called him and he would have come
49:59
and picked picked up the dog. But instead you're willing to surrender this dog
50:02
to a kill shelter. Yes, but thank Graham would die and be euthanized,
50:07
no for real, and thank god Lisa vander Pump hears about it.
50:09
Somehow or some way, the Foster family calls. I think Lisa vander Pump
50:14
and she goes. I think the Foster family or maybe it was the Pound,
50:17
I don't know, but somebody calls Lisa. She mobilizes, she goes
50:20
and gets Graham, and then she calls James. James comes in, is
50:24
surprised and he's able to take Graham home. He fucking cries. Yeah,
50:30
he's so surprised to see Graham. Will Can you imagine if you, like,
50:34
lost custody of your little Luna and you never got to see her again,
50:37
and then all of a sudden she's at a kill shelter on the verge
50:40
of being euthanized. Oh, I would never forgive myself if I, like,
50:45
if I didn't find her in time. Like, I'm so glad that
50:49
Lisa vander Pump took it took Graham Cracker and fucking gave it back to James,
50:52
and James is like, I'm taking him home right now. I'll talk
50:55
to Alb about that was a beautiful thing. I thought that was super sweet,
50:59
and I thought James was super happy. Yes, like I've been missing
51:01
this dog, and I just was kind of side eyeing Raquel a little bit.
51:06
I'm like, really a little bit. And even though she's in rehab,
51:08
you cannot tell me somebody didn't consult her about what to do with Graham
51:14
if it was her family who surrendered Graham to a foster, like somebody told
51:17
Raquel first. Yeah, and so Raquel must have known, and she could
51:21
have very easily said call James. Yeah, I'm sure he will come and
51:23
get the dog. Yeah, that's so. And like, no wonder Graham
51:27
Cracker was having behavioral issues and biting people because he wasn't with his normal fucking
51:31
family and his parents and stuff. So like now that he's back with James,
51:36
and the preview kind of looks like he's gonna give their cats some trouble.
51:39
But I'm happy for him, I guess. But I think in the
51:43
after show they are talking about how is Laala talking about how James has his
51:49
family now he's got Graham and the two cats and everybody's kind of getting along.
51:52
That's great, it's all working out, so he's happy. That makes
51:54
me so happy. Yeah, your daughter and I always talk about that.
51:58
I'm like, we can never break up because Nober one, we have four
52:00
animals. We were three cats and a dog, right, and we always
52:02
joke about like how we would divide custody of them because I'm like, well,
52:07
I want two of the cats and Luna, so you get a cat
52:10
and she's her choice, Like is it a cat that she can choose or
52:15
like, are you going to give her the cat that you want her to
52:16
have? Oh? I would give her her cat that loves her the most,
52:20
which is Bob. Is Bob? Yeah, it's not Key. Well,
52:22
she loves Keith and she's like I would take her, and I'm like
52:24
no, but she's the best cat I ever. So it is so funny.
52:29
I do the same thing with my husband and we talk about the dogs
52:32
that we have and who would go with who, and I'd be like,
52:35
I would take all your dogs, I would take your firebird, I would
52:37
take all your trues. I would take this house that was passed down to
52:39
you from your grandparents. I would take this house and then I would just
52:43
sell it. To be petty, I would take it off. I feel
52:45
like he'd let you do that, and your little dogs too. That is
52:50
so sad. I know we're ram and he's like, oh, he's back
52:53
home. I know. I'm so happy about that. Goodness. Well,
52:57
what were the previews like? Do you remember what we were? What's coming
52:59
up? The Yeah, the Tahoe trip on, which I'm excited about because
53:04
that seems like it's gonna be drama malicious, and then James and Ali dealing
53:07
with their new animals and stuff, and that's about it. Like it was
53:10
very brief in the previews. Okay, so I'm liking the season, are
53:15
you. Yeah. Some people are saying these episodes are boring, but I'm
53:16
like, yeah, I mean most of these talkie talkie shows can be boring.
53:22
But you gotta read between the lines, yes, you do. But
53:23
when you compare this season to last season and everything that was happening, it's
53:29
a little lack of ure. Katie and Tom Schwartz and Raquel and Tom Schwartz
53:34
and Riquel and Tom Sandoval and people starting to read between those lines and like
53:38
the Ultimate Scandal, like it was such a groundbreaking winning season that this one
53:44
was always going to pale in comparison, Like they kind of set it up
53:47
to a little bit, like people to question whether it's good or not.
53:51
Yeah, I just hope it picks up steam a little bit, Like there
53:52
needs to be some more drama. Is it really just gonna be about whether
53:55
the group's going to talk to Tom Sandival for the rest of the season.
53:59
I know, if you're really gonna try and make us feel sympathy for Tom
54:01
Sandival, then I'm just gonna be like, oh, I don't want to
54:06
deal with that. And if you're gonna try and villify Ariana. I mean
54:08
I like Ariana so far. Yeah she's like her, but I'm liking her
54:13
bitchy phase. I mean, I don't fucking blame her for being a bitch,
54:16
not one bit. She has every right to be upset. I mean,
54:21
I would be to take her time getting out of that house and to
54:22
do it in a way that she benefits from the most, Like I'm a
54:28
supersent for that, but I do want like I do, I just want
54:31
there to be more transparency I'm waiting for the conflict in the group. I'm
54:37
waiting for Lalla and Ariana to get into it. I'm waiting for a little
54:39
bit more of that, because right now, these are kind of boring episodes.
54:43
If you ask me, I don't care about your pool party really,
54:45
Yeah, yeah, I don't care about I love Graham, but I'm like,
54:47
let's get to the meat of the matter. Yeah, And maybe they're
54:50
building up to it. Maybe Tahoe will be kind of the catalyst, and
54:53
then it's gonna start going downhill from there, which one can only hope we
54:58
shall see my friend. Well, this was great. Any final thoughts about
55:04
vander Pump before we get on out of here. No, nope, I've
55:08
done every single thought I've had in my head. It's gone. I'm tapped
55:12
out. Yeah, I feel the same way. Yeah. Well, we
55:15
will be back next week, obviously to talk more Sister Wives, and we
55:19
have one more episode Jesus, Mary and Joseph of ninety Day Fiance, and
55:23
of course we're back to talk about vand of Pump rules And until then,
55:27
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