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Is Your Home Poisoning You? The Hidden Dangers & Symptoms of Mold Exposure | What's Eating U?! · What's Eating U?!

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Sam: Ooh, we're talking, talking about what's eating you.
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Sam: Talking about what's eating you.
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Sam: Proudly brought to you by Rogers Hood Apothecary.
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Sam: Welcome to What's Eating You with Sam and Kim.
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Sam: Where we're serving you all of the health and wellness information and healing knowledge that you're hungry for.
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Sam: Kim, what are we talking about today?
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Kim: Mold.
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Sam: Let's talk about how you navigated it.
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Sam: Were you aware of mold prior to getting infected with mold?
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Sam: Or was it something that after you experienced it in your own body, in your own health in life, that's when you learned about it?
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Kim: Yep.
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Kim: That's when I learned really heavily about it.
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Kim: I mean, obviously we always knew environmental toxins could be an issue, but honestly, it wasn't something that Western medicine took seriously.
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Kim: So I'm classically trained in Western medicine.
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Kim: It just wasn't something that we really dove into.
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Kim: Root cause wasn't a thing.
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Kim: So once I started removing the parasites, I started realizing something else was wrong with me.
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Kim: And so I started diving into it deeper.
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Sam: It's interesting that you said it in that order.
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Sam: When you're talking about paraphy cleansing and parasite cleansing to your community and you're online spreading the information about parasite cleansing, you always recommend that people parasite cleanse before mold cleansing.
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Sam: Why is that?
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Kim: Because parasites hold spores and they can hold heavy metals, spores, viruses, bacteria.
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Kim: And when they release those spores, because you're removing them, the spores can colonnate inside of your body, and especially if you're living in mold, which Jeremy and I were living in mold.
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Kim: So the biggest takeaway from that when I was living in it is that the wormwood actually was suppressing the thought that I was living in mold because wormwood suppresses spores.
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Kim: So you're actually boosting your immune system while you're removing the spores.
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Kim: And then when you realize you're in the mold, that's when then you can take action and you actually do feel a little bit better when you start to parasite cleanse first.
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Sam: Parasites control you.
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Sam: Yes.
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Sam: Mold brainwashes you.
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Sam: Right.
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Sam: So it sounds to me like parasites is much more of an opportunist organism that uses you as a host and kind of maneuvers you with these like levers to get you to eat the things they eat and and live the way that will benefit them in their survival.
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Sam: But as far as mold goes, it sounds what that sounds like to me is that it's way more mental.
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Sam: It affects you mentally.
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Sam: Right.
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Sam: So let's dive into that.
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Kim: Well, that's why you struggled with the molde's cleanse.
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Kim: Molde's is Rogers Hood mold cleanse from my own experience when I was demolding.
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Kim: There wasn't anything out there.
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Kim: And so when people like yourself start to cleanse, it is boosting your mitochondria.
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Kim: However, it's also controlling the way you're thinking and your emotions.
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Kim: It's really very mental.
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Sam: So let's talk then about a few signs or symptoms that people may experience if they have mold.
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Kim: Because this is such an important topic.
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Kim: I'm gonna read off my phone a little bit.
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Sam: Yeah, notes.
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Sam: I mean, we don't want to miss anything.
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Sam: And we did prepare very thoroughly because it is so important to give you guys all of the information.
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Sam: So please use your notes.
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Kim: So some of your symptoms of active mold in your body can be weight gain.
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Kim: I could not, for the life of me, lose weight no matter what I was doing.
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Kim: And it's because mold slows down your metabolism and you can have metabolic disorder, which is what I've ended up having.
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Kim: I have metabolic disorder because my metabolism slowed so much that my body doesn't process the sugars, it doesn't process the nutrients correctly.
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Kim: So I'm always working on that, but that's a huge indication if all of a sudden you were like fit and skinny and you get in living in mold or you're working in mold and you're like, gosh, I can't get these five pounds off or something.
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Sam: You said you guys would not eat for days and still gain weight.
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Sam: Yeah.
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Sam: So that's a huge sign right there.
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Sam: It's the opposite of having a fast metabolism.
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Sam: Right.
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Kim: It's the slowest metabolism you can have.
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Kim: Okay.
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Kim: And not only would we not eat for days, we wouldn't feel hungry because that is part of the effect of the mold.
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Kim: Interesting.
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Kim: Is it slows your metabolism?
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Kim: You're never hungry.
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Kim: In fact, when I realized in October of 22 that we were being poisoned by Aspargillus niger and clatosperitium, um I got hangry for the first time.
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Kim: I didn't even know what hangry was.
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Kim: I have quite a bit of mold now, knowing roots from my mom has mold and it got passed down to me.
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Kim: But I started to cleanse and I realized oh my gosh, this is why people are hangry.
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Kim: I'd never been hangry before.
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Sam: Interesting.
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Kim: That's how much it slows your metabolism down almost to a halt where you don't feel it.
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Sam: Okay.
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Sam: We're definitely gonna keep diving into symptoms, but you said something I don't want to just pass by.
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Sam: You inherited mold, it can be passed down genetically.
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Kim: Yes, it can be passed down in the womb.
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Kim: Okay, also through the drainage pathway because they're alive, they're spores, and they can come out of breasts.
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Sam: So it can be passed.
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Sam: So breastfeeding.
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Sam: Yep.
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Sam: Okay, yeah.
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Kim: So it can be passed that way.
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Kim: Okay.
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Kim: And if you're if you're living in mold and you're having children in mold, they're gonna have the same mold.
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Sam: The environment.
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Sam: Yeah, yeah.
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Kim: So all of these things that we talk about are environmental toxins.
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Sam: You can pick them up nature and nurture.
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Sam: Yes.
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Sam: You can get them both ways.
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Kim: And you know, we all have been exposed to mold, but if your body isn't processing the right way and you have parasites like I have lime, they're the mold's gonna stay in you way better than if you're constantly in movement, too.
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Sam: Yeah, I I heard a long time ago, and it always stuck with me that disease can't hit a moving target.
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Sam: Right.
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Sam: So set it's really good.
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Sam: So sedentary lifestyle is that like playground for mold.
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Kim: Yep.
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Kim: It is.
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Kim: And they're like needles.
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Kim: So even when you start to become movement and active, it's painful because the spores are like digging into your joints.
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Kim: I would go for trigger point injections, which is where they go in and they do actual points.
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Kim: Wow.
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Kim: Trigger it in with a steroid, and it would never work.
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Kim: And it's because one, I was living in mold, and because I hadn't really started cleansing my body, I didn't know.
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Kim: So we would do the injections in my hip, and I would be like, um, why am I still in so much pain?
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Kim: It would maybe last a couple of days, and then I would go back to being in pain.
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Sam: Once you cleansed mold out of your system, did that pain it it went away?
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Sam: It subsided.
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Sam: Okay.
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Kim: And I only did a few months.
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Kim: So it wasn't like um, you can mold cleanse, especially with moldies, you can cleanse monthly if you want with a few breaks in between because the type of herbs that we used in that kit is more mitochondria boosting.
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Kim: Got it.
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Kim: But there's a couple herbs that you it goes in and it actually like wipes out the spores while you're cleansing.
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Kim: Wow.
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Kim: Yeah, and keeps them from growing more and becoming more active.
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Kim: Amazing.
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Kim: My brain fog, so brain fog, was so bad that I couldn't finish sentences sometimes.
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Kim: And they do say that mold poisoning is Alzheimer's three.
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Kim: So the forgetfulness, the rage.
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Kim: I I don't my husband is the calmest, kindest person I know.
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Kim: He truly is.
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Kim: Jar really is, yes.
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Kim: Yeah, he is.
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Kim: The rage.
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Kim: Like it's just wild how it is so mental like that.
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Kim: The anxiety, the rage, the depression that comes with it, the hopelessness.
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Sam: How did you find out the trailer was full of mold?
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Kim: So the brain fog, the losing of my hair, and then my eyes swelled shut.
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Sam: So you you got these symptoms, and then what did you do to find out you had it?
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Kim: I went to Dr.
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Kim: Giles.
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Kim: Okay, and I asked her to run as many tests as she possibly could on my blood.
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Kim: I said, I need to know what's wrong with me.
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Kim: This is more than just parasites.
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Kim: I don't know what's going on, and I need to know if I have I need to know what my next steps are because this is really bad.
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Kim: And I'm talking not a little hair.
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Kim: I had the most beautiful, thickest, longest hair and it went to like nothing.
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Sam: So it's bad.
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Sam: It is, which is amazing.
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Sam: Yeah, good work.
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Sam: Yeah, I mean, I can tell.
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Sam: So, okay, say that people out there want to get tested, how do they go about doing that?
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Sam: What's the best way to get tested?
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Sam: Your body for mold.
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Kim: The best way is to go and get a blood test or a urine test.
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Kim: Now, I haven't done a urine test, but I've heard from a lot of my root cause doctors that the urine test is really great.
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Kim: And because urine is a runoff of blood, so it's probably the easiest way.
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Kim: But normally you need to see a practitioner, a doctor, and you can go into my link tree because I provide doctors that you can go to that specifically specialize in this.
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Sam: I love you for that.
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Sam: That's really great.
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Sam: Yeah, that's an incredible resource.
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Sam: So we'll also put a link in the description below.
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Sam: You can get free resources on how to get tested for mold, and that's like super important.
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Sam: RFK Jr.
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Sam: is majorly on it right now, right?
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Kim: Yep.
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Kim: He had mold poisoning.
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Kim: He also had a tapeworm.
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Kim: So, you know, it's now coming to the realization that this is a normal thing.
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Kim: It's normal.
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Kim: And I feel like my message over the last couple of weeks since hearing all of these things come out has been a lot different than I used to say, because it's about mitigating the symptoms and helping the overgrowth, because it all lives symbiotic together, and you have to cleanse.
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Kim: And I think because there's so much information out there, um, it kind of gets hidden.
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Kim: You really do need to cleanse parasites first and then mold because parasites hold on to the spores.
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Kim: But if you don't, it's okay too.
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Kim: It's not like it's gonna hurt you, but you'll feel better when you mold cleanse.
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Kim: And mold is very emotional.
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Kim: It's like spikes in your brain and in your lymph.
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Kim: And that's how mold spikes itself.
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Kim: If you looked at mold under a microscope, that's what it's doing inside of your tissue as well.
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Sam: I want to go into Kim's story a little bit because I want to give you guys backstory to even what led her to create the mold ease kit.
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Sam: The moldease is a mold cleanse kit, all in one, of course, in Rogers Hood fashion and style, like all of their kits on the market, the only ones that's all in one, including a binder, including not just killing herbs, because a lot of companies focus on only killing herbs.
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Sam: But Rogers Hood specializes in killing herbs mixed with supportive herbs, because it's very important to support and nourish while you're killing and cleaning out.
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Sam: So, what were the symptoms that were building up that you were experiencing that led you to even the moment of going, oh my gosh, we have mold poisoning?
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Kim: It was about a year after I went viral for parasites, and it really was almost to the day year later.
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Kim: So I started doing parasite cleansing in June and went viral in July.
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Kim: And then in June of the following year, I started having symptoms of my eyes swelled shut.
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Kim: So I woke up and like my eyes were like so puffy, and like uh at one point they burned so bad.
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Kim: You could see how bad they burned in pictures.
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Kim: And then um, and I couldn't open them and I'm going viral.
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Kim: So like I'm I'm like doing everything I can.
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Kim: Oh, I had the worst brain fog.
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Kim: I remember saying to Erica, I'm like, I don't know what's going on, but like I can't even put one plus one to equal two.
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Kim: Like it was really that bad.
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Kim: And then my hair, and I think that to me, because I still struggle with it, it used to be so thick.
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Kim: And so I was like baseball amounts.
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Kim: And I was like, what is wrong with me?
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Kim: You know?
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Kim: And so I ended up going about two months, and at this point I was off of the paraphy kit.
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Kim: And that makes a difference because wormwood suppresses mold spores.
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Kim: And so a lot of people say don't paraphy cleanse or don't parasite cleanse if you're in mold because of the wormwood.
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Kim: And the problem is that the you don't know if you're in it, just like I didn't know.
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Kim: Okay.
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Kim: So I had no idea.
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Kim: So as soon as I got off that wormwood, which I had removed parasites out of my body, the mold took over fully.
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Kim: And the wormwood suppressed the mold from taking over, but it doesn't kill the mold.
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Sam: Right.
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Sam: But that still had to help, right?
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Sam: Because it was it wasn't at least like getting to run the show.
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Sam: So it wasn't like because if it suppresses it, it's like, okay, it's still there.
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Sam: That's why doing an actual mold cleanse like molde's is so important.
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Sam: It targets it specifically to bind it up, move it out, but it's specific herbs that actually get the mold out of your body.
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Kim: So one day I it was in August, the beginning of August, and I hit Jay up, our doctor, Dr.
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Kim: J, and I said, Girl, I need you to test me for mold and viruses.
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Kim: Like, I need to know what's going on.
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Kim: Something's going on with me.
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Kim: And I know it's going to just parasites.
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Kim: It was yelling.
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Kim: And so she did the, you know, she's like a vampire.
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Kim: She was like 30 vials.
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Kim: She liked 30 vials, and they came back, and I got them really late at night.
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Kim: And I'm, I want to say it was like the 26th of August.
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Kim: Honestly, it was really late.
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Kim: And I saw them and I went, oh my God.
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Kim: I don't even know what to do.
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Kim: Because Jeremy and I were homeless.
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Kim: We were living in a trailer while watching our build behind us, and we were working on it.
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Kim: And so the next day I woke up, and then, you know, if you ever around me, I'm a pretty vocal and I'm really straightforward.
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Kim: And I said, Jeremy, we're leaving right now.
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Kim: He's like starting to cook breakfast.
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Kim: I go, No, we've got to go.
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Kim: And if it wasn't, I would have taken us out last night, but it was like one in the morning when I got these results.
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Kim: We have black toxic mold in this trailer.
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Kim: Like I've been saying, this is probably gonna happen.
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Kim: And it happened.
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Kim: And he would he said, What are we supposed to do?
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Kim: I go, I don't really care if we camp outside in a tent, which a lot of people do is mold avoidance.
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Kim: It's a whole series over on TikTok, and people are really showing you how much better they're doing by leaving the mold.
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Kim: And I said, We have to go.
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Kim: And he goes, I'm not going anywhere.
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Kim: There isn't mold in here.
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Kim: And I go, There is mold.
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Kim: And so I started pulling everything away from the walls.
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Kim: And I saw the mold all around.
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Kim: Well, the year earlier in the year, we were cleaning up the mold inside that trailer.
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Kim: So I didn't understand why he was saying there's no mold in here.
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Kim: I'm like, oh, that's a mold hold.
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Kim: Like you're being held on by this mold because I saw the mold when we were ripped.
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Kim: We ripped the whole trailer apart at the beginning of the year.
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Kim: We were doomed.
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Kim: It was a bold every angle.
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Sam: It was just it was a mold trap.
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Kim: But that whole year I did good because I was on Parify and I was on that wormwood.
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Kim: So that shovels.
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Kim: Yes.
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Sam: Yeah.
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Sam: Yes.
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Sam: Okay.
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Sam: That's actually really great.
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Sam: And that's very, that's very important because a lot of people ask this question all the time.
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Sam: We actually just got this on our What's Eating You YouTube channel.
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Sam: Someone said, okay, but what if I know we have mold and we both like we know we're we're in a house that has it, but we literally can't get out yet.
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Sam: What do we do?
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Sam: And so they're like, is it like it should we just not cleanse?
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Sam: Like, should we just wait for clean?
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Kim: Moldies, it's not gonna hurt you.
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Kim: And so a lot of people say don't cleanse while living in it because your immune system can't keep up.
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Kim: But that's not true when you use the herbs that I picked.
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Sam: Nah, it's like the the cleanses are coming in and they're stopping it from simulating and growing more.
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Sam: Yeah, you may not be able because you're in it still, right?
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Sam: So you're still breathing, you're still exposed to it, you're still talking, like you're in contact with it.
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Sam: It's in your air, it's in your clothes, it's wherever, right?
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Sam: But you are suppressing, so it's not able to grow.
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Sam: At least you're getting some of it out and you're emptying your bucket and at least breaking even.
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Sam: At the minimum, you're breaking even, but at least it's not overflowing or accumulating up above a point you can't help it.
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Sam: Like it's like once it gets out of control, it's it's out of control.
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Sam: So you and Jared did get out of the trailer.
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Kim: Yeah, emotionally you have to be prepared too because you have to get rid of everything.
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Sam: Wow.
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Kim: You can't take anything ever.
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Kim: Like I hear what everybody says, but you can't bring the mold spores because they've embedded inside of everything.
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Kim: So if it can't be sprayed off with like alcohol or peroxide, you can't bring it.
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Kim: So we've got like ziploc bags of like old pictures.
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Kim: And I mean, this was our second time getting rid of everything in our life.
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Kim: We didn't we didn't bring underwear with us.
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Sam: Wow, you really had to start over for sure.
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Sam: Let's break down what a mold hold is, because a lot of people may not know what you meant when you said that.
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Sam: So you were seeing the mold and you're you were at a place where you're like, we have to get the F out of here to save our lives.
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Sam: But when you tried to tell Jared that, Jeremy could not didn't want to leave and was actually in denial that you were even in mold, even with the evidence right in front of him.
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Sam: So what is a mold hold?
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Sam: That and it's the same thing that Jared had on his brain in this exact scenario.
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Sam: What is a mold hold?
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Kim: It's when the mold like wants to stay there and makes you think that you're lying, that's like that you're lying to yourself, that there's really mold, so that you stay in it because it's all growing together as a colonization of a colony, and their frequencies are all together.
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Kim: So it's basically telling you you're not you're not really in mold, you're fine, it's not hurting you, it's not causing these problems.
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Kim: That's something else.
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Kim: Like it's it's really a frequency that's tapped in that says this.
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Kim: You can so like I wasn't breathing it in the same way he was, so he wasn't as in it.
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Kim: I was so in it because I wouldn't leave that trailer because I was.
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Sam: So when he was sleeping for that eight, nine hours a night, he would have be breathing in only the cleanest, most purified, filtered air.
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Sam: Um so would you would it be safe and fair to say that mold gaslights and brainwashes you?
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Kim: That's the mold hold.
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Kim: Yep, that's the mold hold.
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Kim: And it's specific, right?
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Kim: Because any other logical person would look at the wall and say, that's black toxic mold as you're peeling it off.
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Kim: But when you have mold in your brain and you have mold in your body telling you it's Jeremy's like, Kim, it's not that bad.
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Kim: And I'm like, Jeremy, I literally have high lethal levels of black toxic mold in my body.
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Kim: Here's the proof of the labs, here's the proof on the house.
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Kim: And I'm talking, this happened in 10 minutes.
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Kim: 10 minutes because I'm leaving now.
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Kim: I know I can't take anything with me.
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Kim: Like I'm standing now outside of the trailer saying, This is the last time I'm ever coming in here again.
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Kim: And he's standing there going, I'm not leaving, I can't leave this.
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Kim: And I go, You're leaving, I'm leaving.
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Kim: If you want to stay, you can, but I'm suggesting that you at least let's go stay the night somewhere.
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Kim: And so we had another trailer, but we knew we couldn't live in that anymore.
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Kim: So that's where that's the mold hole.
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Kim: And then you have like mold rage.
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Kim: Mold rage is you just get pissed out of nowhere, and it's like next level.
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Kim: And that actually happens even when you get out of the mold, because as mold breaks colonization out of your body, which what you see on the wall is what's in your body.
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Kim: If you were to cut yourself in half, flip yourself open, all of that would be colonized within your cells, within so it's all the same.
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Kim: So the mold's the same.
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Sam: Okay, so it's brainwashing you.
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Sam: The mold brainwashes you and gaslights you to think you're not in it so that you stay in it so it can continue using you to grow and expand and multiply.
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Sam: So it's so it's it's very it's it's an opportunistic uh uh entity like parasites.
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Kim: Yes, and it has a frequency of its own.
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Kim: And then when you get out of it and you start to cleanse your body, and then out of nowhere you start to have rage.
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Kim: That's mold rage.
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Kim: And it's because those clusters of mold, the colonization of mold, is exactly breaking apart in your body, and your body still has to deal with it as if you're in the mold.
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Sam: Yeah.
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Sam: She says she thinks she's dealing with mold rage.
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Sam: She thinks, so okay, mold rage.
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Sam: It can come out of nowhere.
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Sam: Now it can be, it can happen obviously if you know you have mold or not, right?
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Sam: So it's just in there, and it is a symptom of having mold, is like out of nowhere, intense rage that is like uncontrollable.
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Sam: If so, if someone does have that symptom and they like they can't pinpoint why, then getting tested for mold is a good idea.
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Sam: You would suggest getting tested for mold.
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Sam: Okay.
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Kim: Yes.
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Kim: And I suggest not just doing a molde's cleanse, but doing H bot because what's happening in your brain is it's swelling.
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Kim: How long should one do the mold detox?
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Kim: Then the heavy metal.
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Kim: Detox and the parasite cleanse.
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Kim: Want to get my family on it.
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Kim: So if you're still on here, or if this is one of the questions that you guys have had as well, you want to do paraphy two to three times prior to the mold.
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Kim: And the reasoning behind that is parasites hold the spores, and you want to go in and you're wanting to optimize these cleanses as much as possible.
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Kim: So you want to go in there and you want to get rid of some of the things that are holding.
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Kim: And so as soon as you, you know, exnay those out, they're going to dump those spores.
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Kim: And wormwood helps suppress mold spores.
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Kim: So they're not going to colonize into your body and then you flip over right away and do the mold kit.
22:40
Kim: So I recommend two to three paraphy kits for three months, seven days in between.
22:46
Kim: Do it straight, then hop on that mold kit.
22:49
Kim: And the mold kit, the molde's kit can be taken every day.
22:52
Kim: I love immune and recover that's in there.
22:54
Kim: Usually what happens is you shouldn't take paraphy and molde's tinctures together.
22:59
Kim: And it's because there's so many killing herbs inside of those two kits.
23:04
Kim: But you can take all of our products together.
23:07
Kim: It's just not recommended with paraphy and molde's because there's so many killing herbs inside of those two tinctures.
23:14
Kim: It could get real intense for no reason.
23:17
Kim: There's studies now, Sam, that show that mold crosses the barrier to the baby.
23:22
Kim: Like I know for a fact that my mom passed mold to me.
23:26
Kim: My mom knows she passed mold to me.
23:28
Kim: Like we've we've tested for the same mold.
23:30
Kim: Yeah, we lived in the same mold, but like my sister wasn't always well when she was born.
23:36
Kim: My mom, you know what I mean?
23:37
Kim: Like, there's so many things that are missed because of the fact that we just didn't know, and this wasn't something that was prevalent.
23:46
Kim: So why not try and clean everything out of your body prior to reading in?
23:52
Kim: Yes.
23:52
Kim: When you live in mold, this is a lifetime commitment now.
23:56
Kim: This isn't something that's a one and done.
23:59
Kim: It's just not in life.
24:01
Kim: And because we're getting more and more knowledge and more and more exposure to things, and our stuff is really depleted, not allowing our body to generate those spores out, that's where we're at in life.
24:14
Kim: And so what you need to do is just pivot what your wellness journey looks like and allow you to go in and treat those things.
24:21
Kim: The nice thing is that moldes will go in and stop the spores from colonizing more in your body.
24:29
Kim: So that would be a good thing.
24:30
Sam: It interrupts them from like replicating and growing because mold is an active alive thing that does spread and duplicate, and it like ends up like you know, covering.
24:42
Sam: So it actually, so what herbs in moldees does that?
24:46
Kim: Schissantraberry helps go in because it boosts up your immune system.
24:51
Kim: Flaxseed does that.
24:54
Kim: Um, you've got nettle.
24:55
Kim: Nettle is a mold diffuser.
24:58
Kim: Nettle is why I added that in there.
24:59
Kim: It's so important.
25:01
Kim: Fennel, those two herbs go in.
25:03
Kim: I think it's fennel, those two herbs go in and diffuse everything.
25:07
Kim: And that's what you're trying to do.
25:09
Kim: Your first point of attack is stopping.
25:14
Kim: That's how you have to think.
25:15
Kim: You're not in a killing phase in your first point of cleansing contact.
25:20
Kim: You're really going in to stop it.
25:23
Kim: Nice so it doesn't generate more.
25:25
Kim: And then you come behind and you start to support and move out.
25:29
Sam: Sure.
25:30
Sam: So let's break down some symptoms of mold.
25:32
Sam: What are some common symptoms that someone could be having if they have mold?
25:37
Kim: Skin issues a hundred percent.
25:39
Kim: Your autoimmune disease, like I almost wouldn't even say it's auto at this point.
25:44
Kim: It is a hyperimmune.
25:46
Kim: Are you talking?
25:46
Kim: Oh wow.
25:47
Kim: Are you talking about rashes, red, blotchy, my eyes swelled shut, like my skin was a mess.
25:53
Kim: I had uh rashes everywhere, and my eyes, that was my biggest thing.
25:58
Kim: I lost half my hair and my eyes swelled shut.
26:01
Kim: So anyone that has skin issues, I usually will say parasites and mold.
26:06
Kim: That's bottom line, that's where I know when I see you, that's where I'm going with it.
26:11
Kim: Like immediately.
26:12
Kim: It is so hard to regulate your nervous system when you're chronically ill with parasite, slime, and mold because it does hijack your nervous system.
26:20
Kim: So you're in an uphill battle on the physical level.
26:24
Kim: So I didn't necessarily do it backwards, but I did do it in a different way because I went viral and I started a business.
26:32
Kim: And so physically, I needed to be able to have my body work but disassociate nervous system, if that makes sense.
26:40
Kim: I need it.
26:40
Kim: It does.
26:41
Kim: Yeah.
26:41
Kim: So I feel like now that I'm working on my nervous system and you guys are all watching us in fresh, start like start there and cleanse at the same time.
26:52
Kim: But I didn't really work on my nervous system much at all for years.
26:56
Sam: To be honest, what I'm getting from what you're saying, though, what just came through for me as you said that, it's a symbiotic relationship.
27:03
Sam: Get this.
27:04
Sam: If parasites and worms and viruses and mold spores and heavy metals and all these things are bogging down your system, and the parasites and worms are hijacking your nervous system to survive and the mold to survive in your body, right?
27:17
Sam: Because these are intelligent organisms.
27:20
Sam: It's they're intelligent living organisms that they're hardwired to survive just like we are.
27:26
Sam: So they're using our bodies as their home, as their earth, right?
27:30
Sam: Like we're their world, right?
27:32
Sam: Our bodies are their ecosystems.
27:34
Sam: Think about it this way: if the parasites and worms are hijacking your nervous system, how can you really target your nervous system first to heal, right?
27:43
Sam: If you have a hijacked nervous system.
27:45
Sam: So to me, you need to be doing them side by side at the same time.
27:49
Sam: Red artist.
27:50
Sam: Red artist as well.
27:51
Sam: That is a major immune and nervous system support.
27:55
Sam: The mushies wellness kit, oh yeah, full of nervous system support.
27:59
Sam: Yeah.
27:59
Sam: The lymph wellness kit, full of nervous system support.
28:03
Sam: If you don't get them out, they they they lower you.
28:06
Kim: They really lower you.
28:07
Kim: They keep you where you're at.
28:08
Kim: They keep you, you said docile.
28:11
Kim: And you start compounding things like fluoride, like we talked about, and you compound um the heavy metals, and we have mold, and we have, you know, lime is gonna, you know, explode because we're gonna have better testing to show it.
28:25
Kim: I mean, all of those things fog you down.
28:27
Kim: Yeah.
28:28
Kim: That limb kit is great for lime.
28:30
Kim: I didn't make it too harsh.
28:32
Kim: I didn't put in um Japanese knotweed or TSO, which I found were really harsh herbs for me when I would, and I'm a cleanser, like I've been through mold cleansing, and that like that's the hardest cleanse you can actually do.
28:46
Kim: It really is.
28:47
Sam: I've tried.
28:48
Sam: I started and it my body was like, Oh, we don't got time for this right now.
28:51
Sam: I was like, Oh, I'm gonna have to come back to this because it was I could tell it was intense.
28:54
Kim: It's an intense, and the crazy thing is, is it's just like some fennel and some Shazanderberry, and it's just the way that the response of the herbs snuffing out the mold, which is really trying to thrive for people that just do moldies and they go into it with the intention of you want to boost your mitochondria, it's gonna be a totally different thing for you.
29:15
Kim: Okay, so yeah, you're gonna move out some spores, but you're gonna feel less tired.
29:19
Kim: Yeah, we're gonna do it in a way that like you're gonna take all the supporting herbs and tincture, yeah, your binder character will be mitochondria support, but you're gonna just go through and like really support everything.
29:32
Sam: It's gonna be a full body, a full body supportive cleanse.
29:36
Kim: And if you want to find out what uh is in your air, it's gotmold.com.
29:41
Kim: That's who we like.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: And they're very I still have a gotmold.com test sitting on my counter.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: I need to do it.
29:49
Kim: Do it, it's so simple.
29:51
Kim: It's so simple.
29:52
Kim: So what's cool is it's like this machine, and what it's doing is it's sucking the particles of air into this like cloth, round cloth thing that's inside of this little machine.
30:03
Kim: And it's$250 to test three rooms.
30:07
Kim: And in those three rooms, I did like for Vegas.
30:10
Kim: We knew that there was a hole in her bathtub in this rental.
30:14
Kim: So you did the bathroom.
30:15
Kim: We did it right there, and then we did it downstairs too.
30:18
Kim: So it was both floors, but they just recommend you doing like where you're at the most, where you're hanging out.
30:25
Sam: So your master usually usually living room, master, like where you spend the most time.
30:31
Sam: But I think that's smart to do like rooms that you either know have a leak or you know is like extra water.
30:37
Sam: Like, I think it'd probably be smart for people to do their bathrooms, their kitchen, their laundry room, you know, like where's the water at in your house?
30:44
Kim: Right now that we all talk about this and we know it's like I'm gonna stay being proactive and making sure that like for 250 bucks, isn't it worth it to know?
30:54
Sam: Y'all are preventing from even getting mold toxic.
30:59
Sam: Like, you can't get sick from mold if you prevent by knowing where you're moving into and like all of that.
31:05
Sam: Because what would happen if you did move into a place, you tested it and it did come back, what would you do?
31:10
Kim: Well, I would definitely get out of the lease.
31:13
Kim: But I don't know personally what we would do right now because we know this.
31:17
Kim: I mean, you know, this is where we're living, but you can get out of leases when that happens, but then you gotta have another place to live and it's expensive, and you know, it's it's a lot of moving parts.
31:30
Kim: You can remedy it so you can go in, and that's what we did with Jeremy's mom's house.
31:34
Kim: We found out she had black toxic mold last year in her house, and so we went in and we remediated it in a really fast way.
31:43
Kim: It was so bad.
31:44
Kim: Mushrooms were growing out of her wall.
31:48
Kim: And it was from a leak.
31:49
Kim: So we found the leak, we fixed the leak, and then we went in and cut out where it had created the mold, and then we have you have to take even more down around that area just to make sure it's like when they cut for the C word, right?
32:04
Kim: Because they're they're finding borders, they're going in and finding where it stops looking abnormal.
32:12
Kim: So, like, that's why when they cut on you to remove it, they're going in and they're cutting a little bit more out because they want to make sure there aren't any other cells that have attached themselves to create more.
32:24
Kim: And that's what mold does.
32:26
Kim: So you go in and you have to cut it out, and then you have to cut a little bit more around it.
32:30
Kim: So we removed walls and cut out flooring, and we and she didn't retest it.
32:38
Kim: So she tested and her levels were crazy.
32:41
Kim: We did all the remediation and then we retested in the same spots we tested that came back positive and they came back negative.
32:49
Kim: And that's a clean remediation.
32:52
Sam: And did she notice and did you guys notice physical symptoms improve after that?
32:58
Kim: Yes, and I could go into her house.
33:00
Sam: So before I couldn't even go into her house without having started, you would have like a visceral reaction, your body would be like there's mold in here because you have PTSD mold trauma.
33:09
Sam: Yeah, yeah, we almost died.
33:11
Sam: Yeah, so it's literally like your body knows, and it's like, no, no, no, don't go in here.
33:15
Sam: So, yeah, you've told me that before.
33:17
Sam: There's two things I want to circle back on because this is really interesting.
33:19
Sam: But you told me that before that you and Jeremy now have like mold arc, it's like mold radar.
33:24
Sam: So no matter what hotel they go into, you guys, hotel, Airbnb, um, any home, anything, they both can sense, smell, feel that there's mold there.
33:36
Sam: And they will check it out and check the perm.
33:38
Sam: And if there is mold, they will we call it like being an Airbnb refugee or a hotel refugee, and they will leave and find a new place because it's that serious.
33:49
Sam: Like even one night in it would not won't, would it cut?
33:52
Sam: Okay, there's a handful of questions about the ice comment and the water.
33:56
Sam: Let's get into it.
33:57
Sam: Why?
33:57
Kim: So ice has mold.
33:59
Kim: Ice has mold, especially at like restaurants, they don't clean their ice machine.
34:04
Kim: Uh, you know, they use tap water, it's not filtered water, and then you've got all of the junk that's inside of those ice machines.
34:11
Kim: And so if you want to type in ice and mold, you'll see why we talk about no ice.
34:17
Kim: I'm really conscientious for two reasons.
34:20
Kim: One, because ice has mold outside of our home, and they use tap water to make the ice, which contains what parasites.
34:27
Kim: It can contain parasites, it also can contain heavy metals, pharmaceuticals.
34:32
Kim: And a lot of people in our country believe that our water is great.
34:36
Kim: And unfortunately, me personally have been uh testing the water around the country, and the state of Washington has the most contaminated waters from what I've seen.
34:46
Kim: People that have lime, mold, and parasites have a sensitivity to heat, and we just have not been educated well enough on how good cold is for people that have these specific environmental toxins.
35:00
Kim: There is a thing about Lyme creating an overload of heat when you are just in a normal setting, right?
35:10
Kim: Because our bodies can't regulate, and specifically because the mold can cause your brain to be inflamed, and heat always doesn't always help people like us that have these issues from inflammation.
35:23
Kim: So heat isn't always a good thing for breast implants.
35:27
Kim: Do not do heat like that, or for people that have a lot of environmental toxins.
35:31
Kim: And as I've worked through this the last four years, I've been able to bring heat more into my life.
35:38
Kim: I have a sauna, I go in it a few times a week, not as much as I would love to, and it's specifically because my body's so inflamed.
35:46
Kim: Mold is your first indication when you have skin issues.
35:50
Kim: Candida and mold.
35:52
Kim: Usually mold will outweigh the candida issue because mold is a lot more powerful than candida is, in my opinion.
35:59
Kim: Sure.
36:00
Kim: Mold is one of the hardest things if you have that.
36:03
Kim: I don't wish that upon anyone.
36:05
Kim: I still do mold cleansing.
36:07
Kim: I still see mold in my urine and my stool.
36:09
Sam: And so what does mold look like in the toilet?
36:11
Kim: It's black sometimes, a little green.
36:14
Kim: Really?
36:15
Kim: Yes.
36:15
Kim: I didn't know you could see it in the toilet.
36:17
Kim: Yes.
36:18
Kim: Through pea tests?
36:20
Kim: Well, that's how they test you to find out.
36:22
Kim: If they can't get you with the blood, you urinate, and there's a mycotoxin test through Vibrant and this other company, and they'll tell you exactly what molds you have through your urine.
36:33
Kim: It's not always as accurate as blood, but you can tell.
36:36
Kim: And then the reason why I say it's not always accurate is because you eat a lot of food that has mold in it, like coffee and peppers, all of those things have mold in them.
36:45
Kim: So you're gonna excrete it.
36:47
Kim: All urine is is a is a runoff of your blood.
36:51
Kim: That's it.
36:52
Kim: So it's a it's a good way to free shape in your lymph, but it's all blood.
36:56
Kim: Oh, sure, it's all all pumping through here, right?
37:00
Kim: So a lot of mycotoxin tests are urine tests, and it can identify, and it's a lot cheaper than the blood because you have to go in and tell your doctor what blood tests they need to do in order for you to know what mold you have.
37:14
Kim: There isn't a random carte blanc lab test that you can do.
37:19
Kim: So you have to know, like, I know I have Aspergillus niger poisoning, I know I have clatosporidium, I know I have 11 different mold names.
37:28
Kim: Because I had Jade asked me for all of it.
37:32
Kim: We're like, here we are.
37:34
Kim: Why don't we just run the gamut?
37:35
Kim: Because I'm gonna be able to show everyone, right?
37:37
Kim: So that's how I run it.
37:39
Kim: But you can go in and type in mycotoxin urine test, and that's gonna be your cheapest, your easiest, and I think you can just do it as a random, random general population person.
37:50
Kim: I don't think you need to actually go to the dog, sure, sure.
37:54
Sam: Right.
37:54
Sam: Wow, wow, wild.
37:56
Sam: So speaking of coffee, because you mentioned that it could have mold in it, it is a higher in mold type of food.
38:03
Sam: But someone asked earlier, can you drink coffee while you're on the paraphrase cleanse?
38:07
Sam: Yeah.
38:07
Sam: I did while I paraphy cleanse, but I make sure that it's low acid, organic, mold-free when I can find that too.
38:17
Sam: Um, but I really love the low acid part and the organic part because, well, that's so important when you're cleansing.
38:25
Sam: You don't want the pesticides and you don't want a high acid content because acid in the body produces mucus, and mucus is biofilm, and that's what they live in.
38:33
Sam: So you do want to keep everything as low inflammation, low acid as possible.
38:39
Kim: I've done halo therapy for a while because I had mold poisoning, but I never had been in like a real salt cave where I could like dig my feet in, like say.
38:50
Kim: Okay.
38:50
Sam: So, how were you doing halo therapy prior to finding a salt cave?
38:54
Sam: How were you implementing?
38:55
Sam: And by the way, everyone, halo therapy is just another word for salt therapy.
38:59
Kim: Mm-hmm.
39:00
Kim: So basically, anytime you go into a spa and there's the Himalayan salt on the wall and it's all the lights going through it, that's halo therapy.
39:10
Kim: And then when I was in like cruises, because Jeremy and I did a lot of cruises, instead of us going to um a facility to help with our mold, we would go into the salt room or the salt sauna, and what it, you know, pushing the salt out.
39:26
Kim: Um, sometimes there would be puffs of salt that were in the saunas.
39:31
Kim: But anytime you heat up the salt and it starts to kind of create its own environment is considered halo therapy.
39:37
Kim: And what it does is it goes in and it breaks mucus down in your lungs and in your body and it absorbs through your skin.
39:45
Kim: If you guys haven't heard us say this before, everything you do absorbs through your skin.
39:51
Kim: That's water, salt, lotions, any makeup, all of your hair products, like all of it absorbs through your skin.
39:59
Kim: And so when you use this as your mode of transportation, your skin is your mode of transportation, you actually don't have as many conflicts, um, like having it processed.
40:11
Kim: And so halo therapy is one of those things where you get the salt on your skin, it absorbs through your skin, it pushes deeper into your body, and then it helps break up toxins, specifically mold clusters and mucus.
40:25
Kim: Mold and red light has been a game changer when me and Jeremy first found out we needed to do something different with our modalities.
40:34
Kim: And red light really changed the game for us when we have mold possibilities.
40:38
Sam: Honestly, I remember you saying that that was like the first thing.
40:42
Sam: We have to pause and shed some light and shine some light on this beautiful comment from Mary 971N.
40:51
Sam: Kim, I had a lot of mold in my body.
40:54
Sam: I've done three paraphrai cleanses and two moldi cleanses.
40:59
Sam: The mold is gone.
41:01
Sam: I do have some candida.
41:03
Sam: Girl, we all do.
41:04
Sam: That is okay.
41:05
Sam: And we'll start the lymph cleanse next week.
41:08
Sam: Thank you.
41:08
Sam: Woo, Mary.
41:11
Sam: That's right.
41:12
Sam: That's amazing.
41:14
Sam: And the lymph kit, it's not a cleanse, but it's a very supportive kit that has maybe some mild detoxing of Candida, by the way.
41:23
Sam: So really great choice, Mary.
41:26
Sam: But it'll be very supportive for you after all of those parapied moldi cleanses.
41:31
Sam: But congratulations on no mold in your body out of after having a lot, because that is definitely an accomplishment to celebrate.
41:39
Sam: So great job.
41:40
Sam: We are so happy to hear that.
41:42
Sam: And then there was a couple other questions I wanted to get to.
41:45
Sam: Someone actually asked, why should they do multiple parasite or paraphyparasite cleanses before doing a molde's cleanse?
41:53
Sam: Why?
41:54
Kim: Well, parasites hold spores.
41:56
Kim: So it's counterproductive if you go in and you actually remove the spores and then try and remove parasites after, because all you're doing is then just dropping more spores.
42:08
Kim: So we recommend two to three paraphy kits to really get in there, dig deep, try and get rid of as many parasites as possible.
42:16
Kim: They'll dump those spores.
42:18
Kim: We actually use some herbs inside the parapy kit that will help suppress them from continuing to grow, which is what wormwood does.
42:26
Kim: And so it'll suppress the mold spores, and then you could come in with moldies, which we use phenol to actually target mold spores and sweep them away.
42:36
Kim: And so the whole point of all of the herbs that we use in the way that we have you take the tinctures is because you don't want them to continue to grow.
42:46
Kim: You want to suppress them and then sweep them out.
42:50
Sam: Yeah.
42:51
Sam: So basically, parasites hold on to heavy metals, mold, bad bacteria.
42:58
Sam: They hold on to viruses, they hold on to all this stuff.
43:00
Sam: They have a biofilm around them.
43:02
Sam: So they're holding on to stuff.
43:04
Sam: So just because you're doing a mold cleanse doesn't mean that it's going to kill the parasites and move the parasites out that have all this mold in their little biofilm home with them.
43:14
Sam: So it's like target the parasites first, their biofilm, their nests, their homes, wherever they're living.
43:21
Sam: Get as many of those out as possible and then move on to cleansing the mold out.
43:26
Sam: And that's like the correct order in which to do things.
43:29
Sam: So that's that in a nutshell.
43:31
Kim: And you're exposing the mold because you're breaking, because all environmental toxins live in a biofilm, which is like if you think about it as an egg, the inside of an egg is all the toxins, and the outside is the shell of the egg.
43:46
Kim: And so you got to crack that in order for you to get into the egg.
43:49
Kim: And so what we're doing is we're cracking that biofilm shell of environmental toxins like spores.
43:56
Kim: Spores also go through uh biofilm.
43:59
Kim: So You're actually exposing them, and you're able to get more when you do paraphy parasite cleansing first.
44:06
Kim: Two to three times is what we recommend.
44:08
Kim: Right now it's becoming a big topic, and we were just quickly talking before we hopped on about how important this is for us to be able to have the government like RFK Jr.
44:21
Kim: and all these celebrities talking about mold like Jenny McCarthy and Tori Spelling, which I've chatted with her in the past about her mold and where she was at.
44:30
Kim: Because you can clearly see when someone has mold poisoning throughout the, you know, Instagram and all the social media.
44:37
Kim: But what's so important about it, you guys, is that we don't really have great coverage.
44:41
Kim: We don't have good insurance that covers it.
44:44
Kim: That's medical, as well as, you know, could be renter's insurance, could be homeowner's insurance.
44:49
Kim: When this is brought to the forefront like this by the government, specifically right now, RFK Jr., because he also had mold poisoning and so it affected his family dearly, it allows us to re-evaluate what's going on in our government and what's going on in the way insurances cover us.
45:07
Kim: Because what happened to me and Jeremy, not only was I like the sickest I've ever been, and we were the poorest we were ever.
45:14
Kim: I mean, I bankrupted us because of my medical.
45:17
Kim: And so now we've lost our travel trailer that we were living in because of black toxic mold.
45:23
Kim: You can't bring anything with you.
45:24
Kim: So there's a whole level of like invasion feeling because you're sick.
45:30
Kim: Now you have to throw everything away, and you have to decide do I live in it knowing I'm in it, or do I leave and I'm homeless, which is what we chose to do, but we couldn't bring anything with us.
45:41
Kim: I remember the day we left, and I have pictures of it because it was just very difficult.
45:47
Kim: We brought everything out that was a hard surface, and we wiped it all down with alcohol, and then we packed it in bins and we put it in the back of our car, and that's all.
45:56
Sam: I've seen pictures of that.
45:57
Kim: Yeah, it was crazy, right?
45:59
Kim: That's all we brought.
46:00
Sam: That's imagine you guys like you find out you're living in black toxic mold that's poisoning you, and you have to flee and get out of it.
46:10
Sam: And you can only take, like, I mean, what what's the deal with that?
46:13
Sam: Because spores get in everything.
46:16
Kim: Well, specifically black mold, those spores, you'll breathe them in, you can't get them out of material.
46:23
Kim: Yeah, you can't fabric.
46:24
Kim: Well, anything that isn't a wipable surface, right?
46:28
Kim: And even that, we didn't bring I had like a hundred and twenty-five-year-old, amazing, beautiful old school desk.
46:37
Kim: You know, the like 19, 24, maybe it was 100 years old.
46:40
Kim: Um, that you'd sit one and then the desk, I had to throw it away.
46:43
Kim: It was my mom's, and it was so upsetting.
46:46
Kim: We had to throw all, we just got brand new chairs, and Jeremy actually said, if you think there's mold in here, don't buy these new chairs.
46:51
Kim: I'm like, we're fine.
46:52
Kim: Nope.
46:52
Kim: Had to throw all of it away.
46:54
Sam: And you even told me you guys have like your photos in Ziploc because you have they have to be contained.
47:01
Sam: Yes.
47:01
Sam: And you have them like somewhere, but they're inside of Ziploc because they were contaminated.
47:05
Sam: Yes.
47:06
Kim: So mold, man, mold like it's a needle, and it's a spore and a needle, and it sticks in and then it grows and it develops, and then it like, and once you get poisoned like that, you really can't go around it.
47:18
Kim: And so you're you can't be around your stuff again, right?
47:21
Kim: So you have to throw it away.
47:22
Kim: So not only are you sick, but now you're like, How financially am I gonna do this?
47:26
Kim: And it made me and Jeremy homeless.
47:28
Kim: We had to go live in a hotel for a month and then find an Airbnb.
47:33
Kim: Yeah, and we only had basically the clothes on our back, legitimately.
47:37
Sam: You literally have to start over.
47:38
Kim: We had to start totally over, and even the clothes on our back we had to throw away once we went and bought new clothes.
47:43
Sam: That's crazy.
47:43
Kim: Yeah, because we were itchy, of course, of course, you know, because it like yeah, and it was tough, it was so tough because he still had to work on the house, and I was building the business, yeah.
47:54
Kim: So it was really a it was really tough on us, and I'm grateful for the way everything played out, but like we already lost everything once when we moved out to that property.
48:05
Kim: So all we had in our life was in that trailer and a seven by seven.
48:10
Sam: Wow.
48:11
Sam: Yeah.
48:11
Sam: You know, people ask us this question quite often when we hop on a live and we're talking about mold.
48:16
Sam: People always ask, okay, if I know I'm in a home that has mold, but I can't get out of it yet, should I wait to cleanse or should I start cleansing now?
48:27
Kim: Such a good question.
48:28
Kim: Such a good question.
48:30
Kim: Um, if you can get out, go.
48:32
Kim: But if you can't, first off, mold hijacks your nervous system and your brain.
48:38
Kim: And so you gotta just give yourself some grace.
48:41
Kim: It's an emotional poisoning, in my opinion.
48:43
Kim: I was way more uh in my feelings with it, as and it was also because I knew I had to leave, but in a moment I found out I had mold, we had to go back to the travel trailer.
48:57
Kim: So I do know what that feels like.
49:00
Kim: We actually left, went to a place, it had a bed bug, and then I looked at Jeremy and go, we just have to go back to the mold, Jeremy.
49:08
Kim: I'm sorry, I don't I don't know for how long.
49:10
Kim: Right.
49:10
Sam: So you were one of those people because like people ask that a lot, like, hey, I can't get out yet.
49:14
Sam: So you had to go back in it.
49:15
Sam: Yeah.
49:16
Kim: So cleanse or not to cleanse?
49:17
Kim: Cleanse.
49:18
Kim: Cleanse because, and this is why I say paraphy first.
49:22
Kim: The once you find out you have mold and you start taking wormwood, it suppresses the mold spores from continuing to colonize in your body.
49:29
Kim: So picture like what your wall looks like with mold.
49:32
Kim: That's what it looks like in your body with your cells.
49:34
Kim: And so wormwood will actually suppress the colonization in your body, giving you energy and giving you your life back in those moments to be able to methodically think and feel less stressed about your next plan.
49:49
Kim: Because that's the whole thing.
49:50
Kim: You're living in it, remediation doesn't always work.
49:54
Kim: You need to like focus, but you're exhausted because mold just exhausts you.
49:58
Kim: Like, I could barely put sentences together.
50:00
Kim: They say that people have mold poisoning, it's like Alzheimer's three.
50:04
Sam: Wow.
50:04
Kim: And I I totally agree because there were moments where I was like, I don't, I was on the phone once with Erica and I was like, I don't even know how to form the sentence, Erica.
50:12
Kim: This is the weirdest thing ever.
50:14
Kim: And that's when it was like in the thick of it, and when I ended up calling Jay.
50:18
Kim: Because I'm like, I can't even, word is here, but it won't come out here.
50:22
Kim: And that's a common theme when you have mold poisoning.
50:26
Kim: So I feel like because I cleansed with Perify for that whole year I was living in the mold, the wormwood suppressed it.
50:33
Kim: And like I've said before, as soon as I got off of the Parify kit, then I realized I had mold poisoning three months later, and then I got on the herbs that we created moldies with.
50:43
Kim: And then I was able to function at least in the environment, because even though we weren't in the travel trailer, it was still on our property.
50:51
Kim: And so the spores, I mean, it was so moldy.
50:54
Sam: And also you were in a moldy environment.
50:57
Sam: Oh, yeah, the rainforest internally too, the rainforest.
50:59
Sam: So it's like you just couldn't get away from it.
51:00
Sam: Right.
51:01
Sam: It's so moldy.
51:02
Sam: Wow.
51:02
Sam: And then, like, once mold gets into your system, it seems like whenever you come in contact with any mold, it's like like it's like once you've been infiltrated with mold at some point.
51:14
Sam: Whenever you come into contact with mold, like it's almost like you get symptom flares.
51:18
Sam: Yes.
51:18
Sam: I I still know that I've tested positive for fungus in my gut at one point, which is mold.
51:23
Sam: Right.
51:23
Sam: So like I'm aware of that.
51:24
Sam: Still have a mold cleanse.
51:26
Sam: I know everybody's a home me to it because top of this season, I'm like, I'm doing it.
51:29
Sam: I'm gonna do it.
51:30
Sam: I'm gonna do it.
51:31
Sam: Yeah, I'm gonna do it.
51:32
Sam: Um, but I I that I know of have never been engulfed in mold.
51:38
Kim: I've never been in an You've never been, you don't have mold poisoning.
51:40
Kim: Yes.
51:41
Kim: You've been in, you've been around.
51:42
Kim: I mean, we've all been around.
51:42
Kim: We've all been exposed to mold.
51:44
Kim: Yeah, and you probably have a little mold in your body.
51:46
Kim: Probably a little bit.
51:46
Kim: You don't have mold poisoning.
51:48
Kim: It's too like Jenny McCarthy has mold poisoning.
51:51
Kim: Her home poisoned her.
51:52
Kim: Okay, got it.
51:53
Kim: Dr.
51:53
Kim: Pompa had mold poisoning RFK Jr.
51:56
Kim: Mole poisoning.
51:57
Kim: I have mold poisoning.
51:58
Kim: My levels were high.
51:59
Kim: I believe some people have to stay in the mold.
52:03
Kim: And if you do, you 100% should be cleansing.
52:06
Kim: Yeah.
52:07
Kim: Alleviate some of the spores.
52:09
Kim: Burden.
52:09
Kim: Yeah.
52:10
Kim: And allow your body, it might not get to the right capacity, but like you should continue to keep cleansing until you're out of it.
52:17
Kim: So you do start with paraphy.
52:19
Kim: That's my opinion, not medical advice.
52:21
Kim: The wormwood suppresses it, allows you to get ready.
52:23
Kim: Well, first start with the lymph.
52:25
Kim: You start with the lymph kit, open up your pathways, you're gonna start learning how to bind.
52:29
Kim: You're gonna start learning the three tinctures and a binder system.
52:32
Kim: Then you do two paraphy kits, and that's because spores are held inside of worms.
52:39
Kim: But say you don't have parasites, which I'm gonna limb here because everybody I talk to passes worms when they leave the mold.
52:47
Kim: I mean, it's just a normal thing.
52:49
Kim: So you're already allowing your body to process parasites which hold spores.
52:55
Kim: You're suppressing with the wormwood of the continuation of the spores colonizing.
53:00
Kim: You get a little bit of brain function back, allowing you to move yourself forward on if you stay in the house or if you have enough energy to get humidifier, dehumidifiers, to get air fill.
53:14
Kim: I mean, when you have brain fog as bad as mold poisoning, the a few minutes that you get of like clarity, you're like, I'm gonna run with it, right?
53:22
Kim: So you allow yourself to get a breath and then you pivot to the moldies kit.
53:28
Sam: I'm gonna break that down like from what I just heard.
53:31
Sam: Okay, like simplify it a little bit.
53:33
Sam: Cause because I I think it's actually brilliant.
53:36
Sam: So basically, if you're in mold, like if you know you're in mold or you don't know you're in mold, then you find out you are.
53:42
Sam: Like I did.
53:43
Sam: Yes, right.
53:43
Sam: So if you are in mold, yes, start cleansing because you're lightening your load and you're lightening the the toxic burden.
53:51
Sam: And you're at least, even if you're still in it, so you're still breathing it in, you're still coming into contact with it, you are getting it out at the same time.
53:59
Sam: A little bit all of it, but you're not.
54:01
Sam: No, no, no, but you're getting some out, right?
54:03
Sam: And you're suppressing it too from growing more and expanding more.
54:07
Sam: So you're keeping it at bay at least.
54:09
Sam: It's like you can't eliminate it fully when you're in it, but you can at least like lessen it enough that it creates energy and you get a little bit of energy back because the other beautiful thing about moldees, right?
54:22
Kim: It's mitochondrial support.
54:24
Kim: Yes.
54:24
Kim: So if you don't have mold poisoning and you still want to take molde's, it is mitochondria support.
54:29
Kim: I put in herbs to help boost the mitochondria.
54:32
Kim: Your ATP is like depleted, which pushes the mitochondria.
54:36
Kim: And when you have mold, the spores are developing where the mitochondria is supposed to be generated.
54:43
Kim: Get out of here.
54:44
Kim: So it's like it's like spokes in the wheel.
54:46
Kim: That's what it is.
54:47
Kim: Oh, it's spokes in the wheel.
54:48
Kim: That's crazy.
54:49
Kim: And it's really like super sh, like there's they're like literally like spores.
54:54
Sam: Oh my god.
54:55
Kim: Yeah, it spokes in the wheel, so it stops that continuation of your body producing the energy, and that's why your brain fog is so bad.
55:03
Kim: And also one of the things that I've really struggled with since getting out of the mold is feeling hungry.
55:09
Kim: I've really never had the opportunity the whole like consistently.
55:14
Kim: I don't get hungry.
55:16
Kim: It's because it creates metabolic dysfunction and a disorder.
55:21
Kim: And so a lot of people that are in mold are so overweight and they think it's them, but really they're just in mold.
55:27
Kim: And like, even doing any sort of like now, this was my own experience.
55:32
Kim: I only did it once, but even doing like a GLP one, I only don't, it didn't work on me and Jeremy, even though it's for metabolic dysfunction.
55:40
Kim: We really struggled with inside of us losing any sort of uh of weight, and that was for a few years.
55:47
Kim: I mean, it was just recently that both of us have started to move past having a metabolic dysfunction.
55:53
Kim: It's because it creates a barrier between your gut and your brain, and it stops allowing your body to feel hungry.
56:01
Kim: So, one of the side of symptoms of mold poisoning is not ever feeling hungry, peeing all night long because your body's trying to push those spores out.
56:10
Kim: You're not getting old.
56:11
Kim: You literally are peeing all night because you're involved in in mold.
56:15
Sam: You're talking about while sleeping?
56:16
Kim: Yeah, like wake up.
56:18
Kim: It feels like five, five times, five, six times a night.
56:21
Kim: Jeremy and I would get up.
56:22
Kim: And we were in a trailer, right?
56:24
Kim: So we were getting up every time one of us would get up.
56:27
Kim: It would the trailer would move sometimes and we're like, oh, it's time to fix, you know, like pump it back up because then you knew it was every time one of us got up.
56:36
Kim: So it was like 10 times a night.
56:37
Kim: I mean, it was crazy how much we were peeing in the thick of us being in that mold.
56:42
Kim: And usually, if you're changing seasons, that's when you're gonna know that you have the most mold in your house.
56:48
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
56:48
Kim: You turn on your air conditioning, they're like a huge way to cat to get mold.
56:53
Kim: There's condensation dripping in your HVAC system.
56:57
Kim: You've got like the ducting gets wet and creates mold inside of there.
57:02
Kim: So you're cranking on your air conditioner, shutting all your windows down during the summer, and then you're feeling like trash.
57:08
Kim: There's blasting.
57:10
Kim: That's right.
57:10
Kim: You're blasting the black mold with the spores, and then you have to get rid of your furniture.
57:14
Kim: So there's like multiple levels of stress.
57:17
Kim: Well, let moldies take some of that stress away from you, you know.
57:21
Kim: I mean, I really had to go through it in order to make a cleanse.
57:25
Kim: Yeah.
57:26
Kim: Just like Parify.
57:27
Sam: It like gives you enough energy and clarity, like just enough to be able to put the plan together or make your next move to like get out of this.
57:35
Sam: Yes.
57:36
Sam: Because also, though, let's talk about mold hold for a second.
57:39
Sam: Because you can be in it and it can be your your brain and your body can be telling you, nah, just stay, you're good, stay in it.
57:45
Sam: And you're just like stuck and you feel stuck in it.
57:47
Sam: And that's literally the mold being like, eh, yeah, brainwashing you, gaslighting you.
57:53
Sam: It wants its friends.
57:54
Sam: It wants it wants its home.
57:56
Sam: It's like, hey, I'm we're growing in you.
57:58
Sam: We're growing in you.
57:59
Sam: Yeah, we're like, we're inside of here, it's dark, warm, and moist.
58:03
Sam: It's like the perfect perfect place for a mold to grow.
58:07
Sam: That's crazy.
58:08
Sam: Let's let's talk about the difference between mold exposure and mold poisoning.
58:13
Sam: Okay.
58:13
Kim: Because can can mold poisoning like can it take you out?
58:18
Kim: Uh a hundred percent.
58:21
Kim: I want to look at the statistics of how many people.
58:24
Kim: Well, for me particularly, it was slowly taking me out because of all my co-infections.
58:31
Kim: It was a co-infection, but it was the hardest thing I've ever done.
58:35
Kim: I would take parasites all day, every day over mold poisoning.
58:39
Kim: Really?
58:39
Kim: It was terrible.
58:41
Kim: I'm sorry, you guys.
58:42
Kim: I'm just gonna be as real as I can here.
58:44
Kim: I'm not trying to scare anyone.
58:46
Kim: There's so many answers.
58:47
Kim: We there's so much help out there.
58:49
Kim: You can always reach out to us.
58:51
Kim: But like, it was the hardest thing I've ever been through.
58:53
Kim: Mold affects your nervous system worse than parasites, in my opinion.
58:58
Kim: Mold avoidance is kind of a trend right now for people.
59:01
Kim: It's people are understanding you can go pitch a tent in your backyard and go and sleep in there to have mold avoidance and they're healing while sleeping in this.
59:10
Sam: Oh my gosh, listen to that, you guys.
59:12
Sam: That's like a solution.
59:13
Sam: Like that is a DIY, cheap, easy solution.
59:18
Kim: So, according to our favorite place, the CDC, at least 7,000 people died from mold and fungal infections in the United States in a single year, up to significantly from 450 deaths.
59:31
Kim: They say in 1969, they say one out of two people now.
59:36
Kim: That's why this is a crisis, that's why it's being brought to the forefront.
59:40
Kim: So RFK Jr.
59:41
Kim: brought in lime.
59:42
Kim: Now he's bringing up mold.
59:43
Kim: Y'all know what's next, right?
59:44
Kim: You guys have got to know.
59:46
Kim: Parasite.
59:47
Kim: There is a major issue with environmental toxins that we have talked about, well, for me for sure, for five years.
59:55
Kim: Yeah.
59:55
Kim: And I am loud, man.
59:57
Kim: I have carved a way for people to be able to discuss this truly so that it can be open for them.
1:00:04
Kim: It's so ridiculous that we have to go around worrying about these environmental toxins.
1:00:10
Kim: Like we aren't a third world country.
1:00:13
Kim: We are the most sickest, and there's a reason.
1:00:16
Kim: And that's that's what he's trying to bring to the forefront.
1:00:18
Kim: One out of two people have some form of mold in their body.
1:00:23
Kim: And the crazy part is the denying of it.
1:00:25
Kim: My mom gave me mold in euro, like it can be proven.
1:00:30
Kim: You can pass that on to your child.
1:00:32
Kim: She unknowingly did that, and like we talk about it often.
1:00:35
Kim: She had a mold disease, and we were in a mold officer's home.
1:00:39
Kim: And like, come on, like, this is a real thing.
1:00:42
Kim: 7,000 people can die, have died.
1:00:46
Kim: Like, it used to be 450 deaths in 1969.
1:00:50
Kim: And then hospitals.
1:00:52
Kim: 7,000 people, yeah, according to the CB CDC in a single year, 2021.
1:00:59
Kim: So the last time they took this number, 7,000 people died in 2021.
1:01:03
Kim: Hospitalization, 75,000 people have been hospitalized every year.
1:01:09
Kim: Yet the insurance companies don't want to cover certain tests to find out if that's what it is.
1:01:15
Kim: And there isn't good testing for this either.
1:01:18
Sam: Yeah, guys, definitely be proactive.
1:01:21
Sam: Um, you don't have to have mold or be in a crisis or have mold poisoning to get started on helping make your body inhospitable because the truth is we're human beings who live on this planet earth and we're constantly coming into contact with environmental toxins.
1:01:33
Sam: And it's really important to be proactive about that, make your body inhospitable so that when you do come into contact, they don't take over and they don't take you over to try to take you out.
1:01:43
Sam: Cause that is wild to me when you said that.
1:01:46
Sam: And um, yeah, just love being here to spread awareness.
1:01:49
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1:01:54
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1:01:56
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1:01:57
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1:02:07
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1:02:16
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1:02:18
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1:03:07
Sam: The mold, man.
1:03:08
Kim: It's just really, it's a serious thing.
1:03:11
Kim: And I'm just really grateful that it's being talked about.
1:03:14
Kim: I'm really happy that they're stepping in and thinking clearly for us and using their own personal experiences because I see that they've had, you know, they meaning certain people in the government, you know, that can make these laws and change the way that we view medicine.
1:03:33
Kim: It doesn't always have to just be Western medicine, it should just be medicine, you know.
1:03:37
Kim: So I I I applaud everyone that is a part of making this change.
1:03:44
Kim: And I do think that we're gonna see a lot more change soon.
1:03:49
Sam: Yeah, it's like a mold awareness movement.
1:03:51
Kim: Yeah, man.
1:03:52
Kim: Yeah, yeah.
1:03:53
Kim: The louder these celebrities get, I know that's crazy.
1:03:56
Kim: But things are great.
1:03:57
Sam: It's not but like it's been that way forever.
1:04:00
Kim: The louder they get and the more they use their voices, and the more they show this normalcy.
1:04:06
Kim: I mean, they live in like million-dollar homes.
1:04:08
Kim: Any home can get mold.
1:04:10
Sam: Uh, we've been in plenty of Airbnbs.
1:04:13
Sam: They're supposed to be so nice, and yeah, they're moldy.
1:04:15
Sam: So yeah, it's everywhere, is the point.
1:04:17
Sam: Yeah.
1:04:18
Sam: And so whether you are just like minimal, minimally exposed or po like it's it's to the level of of mold poisoning.
1:04:26
Sam: Um, oh, cleanse, please.
1:04:28
Sam: Definitely cleanse, get them out, um, do your best to to avoid and just move through life educated and informed and empowered.
1:04:36
Sam: Know the solutions, and so don't ever feel hopeless or um defeated, and know that there are solutions.
1:04:43
Sam: And we're here to help spread them and help share them with you.
1:04:46
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1:04:52
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1:04:53
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